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The Texas Flood Conspiracies · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Wait truly inurance true a check.
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm your host,
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Speaker 2: Adam Todd Brown. Joining me is co host Connor mcspadden's here.
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Speaker 2: How's going man, it's going good.
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Speaker 3: Hell yeah.
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Speaker 1: I was just thinking of my opening joke, but it's
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Speaker 1: it's too long and convoluted. Now. Oh yeah, well, you
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Speaker 1: know there's been some flooding in Texas. I guess a
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Speaker 1: bunch of ladies Bruno Mars bust out some of those
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Speaker 1: dance moves.
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Speaker 3: Huh right is he from Texas?
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Speaker 1: That is the wettest I've ever seen any woman, or
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Speaker 1: surface or anything. Is when I was working on an
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Speaker 1: award show and I was watching Bruno Mars rehearse and
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Speaker 1: he was like bringing like different chicks that worked on
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Speaker 1: the show, and he's like, I'm at this part I
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Speaker 1: need to like slow dance on a woman. So I
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Speaker 1: needed some and you've never I was like it was
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Speaker 1: the humidity and the air increase. There was so much moisture.
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Speaker 1: It was so yeah, it's my opening pussy joke.
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Speaker 3: I can see him have that kind of presence.
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Speaker 1: I was wet and I'm I don't even have a pussy,
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Speaker 1: and I'm not gay, So that was a two accomplishments.
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Speaker 2: Really, that's how you know, That's how you know. So, yeah,
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Speaker 2: we're talking about the conspiracy theories that have popped up
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Speaker 2: around the massive floods that just hit the state of Texas.
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Speaker 2: This is pretty much par for the course. Now, if
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Speaker 2: there's a natural disaster, right wingers are gonna say Democrats
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Speaker 2: did it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's really like a good playbook when you think
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Speaker 1: about it, because like you get to just brand every
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Speaker 1: bad that was going to happen anyway. Yeah, to a
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Speaker 1: degree to which you've probably like voted against helping in
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Speaker 1: any capacity. Uh yeah, and then you just say it's
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Speaker 1: the other side. It's it's I mean, it's stupid and evil,
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Speaker 1: but it's that's pretty smart.
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Speaker 3: It fucking works with their base.
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Speaker 1: Holy shit, vote I would vote against hurricanes. Who would
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Speaker 1: vote for that?
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Speaker 3: Exactly? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: These floods, they happened in July of twenty twenty five
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Speaker 2: in the Hill Country region of Texas.
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Speaker 1: Which seems like a strange place for a flood.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds ominous too, hill Country. I don't like it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hills have eyes. Yeah, going up to hill Country.
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Speaker 2: Anytime something's called country and it's not a country. It's
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Speaker 2: a little bit alarming unless it's like welcome to Bacon Country.
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Speaker 1: But if you told me Orswald do I did one
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Speaker 1: time when I walked into the Mall of America the
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Speaker 1: first time, there's a big neon advertisement that said welcome
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Speaker 1: to do Country. And I've never felt more like I
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Speaker 1: lived in a fascist state. Like I was like, fuck,
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Speaker 1: I love Big Brother and I want to fucking drink
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Speaker 1: mountain dew.
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Speaker 3: What did you think of the Mall of America?
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Speaker 1: I thought the I don't know. I thought it was
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Speaker 1: too big in the comedy club's thing, like I fucking
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Speaker 1: Matarial Miills is the superior mega mall. Okay, I'm from
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Speaker 1: the Inland Empire. Sign I got to rep my own
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Speaker 1: fucking fascist mega mall. But if you're gonna tell me
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Speaker 1: anywhere I could be during flooding season in Texas and
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Speaker 1: you told me there's place called a hill country, I
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Speaker 1: thought they'd be immune. These must not be some very
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Speaker 1: impressive hills.
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Speaker 2: You think they would be safe in hill Country? There
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Speaker 2: were one hundred and thirty five fatalities, with one hundred
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Speaker 2: and seventeen of them happening in Kerr County.
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Speaker 3: That will be important.
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Speaker 2: Caused by a quote meso scale convective vortex with enhanced
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Speaker 2: tropical moisture from the remnants of tropical storm Berries short
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Speaker 2: lived Atlantic tropical cyclone and remnant tropical moisture from the
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Speaker 2: Eastern Pacific end quote. I don't think I need to
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Speaker 2: tell anyone what that means. We're all meteorologists here.
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Speaker 1: Well, I heard about tropical storm Barry, which is like
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Speaker 1: an oddly kind of fun loving name for a guy
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Speaker 1: to be. You know, I guess we already did this show,
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Speaker 1: but a serial killer named Barry. But yeah, I feel
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Speaker 1: like a hurricane should be a fucking Mike or a
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Speaker 1: fucking lay Larry or some mean old man, you know, Barry.
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Speaker 1: Everybody likes Barry.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be fun if that was a tie in
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Speaker 2: with the show, Like just there was a new season coming.
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Speaker 1: So myself special edition seven eleven Cups and the Hurricane.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The flooding began the morning of July fourth, so not
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Speaker 2: very patriotic of it, after significant rainfall across Central.
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Speaker 1: Textaking Democrats Adam, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Exactly trying to ruin the fourth of July. There were
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Speaker 2: six flash flood emergencies issued that day alone. Over the
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Speaker 2: course of a few hours, the Hill Country region was
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Speaker 2: hit with the equivalent of four months of rainfall. That's nuts.
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Speaker 2: But also how much rainfall does Texas usually get?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a pretty fireway to measure rainfall though,
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Speaker 1: like in units of time. Yeah, like he's got six
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Speaker 1: light years of dick. Oh my god, dick Is spends
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Speaker 1: galaxies so.
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Speaker 3: Much, dick.
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Speaker 2: The Guadaloupe River rose by twenty six feet in just
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Speaker 2: forty five minutes.
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Speaker 3: That's pretty fucking wild.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty unless it's a very small river. That's pretty crazy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Tragically, an all girls camp was in operation along the
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Speaker 2: Guadalupe River. Camp Mystic I was hosting seven hundred and
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Speaker 2: fifty campers when the floods happened. A camp close to
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Speaker 2: the Guadalupe River was heavily damaged, to the point of
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Speaker 2: being described as completely in ruin. Twenty seven campers and
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Speaker 2: councilors from Camp Mystic are confirmed to have died in
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Speaker 2: the flooding. As of July ninth, another six are still missing.
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Speaker 2: I cannot find any updates a month later as to
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Speaker 2: whether those six were found, but let's hope so not.
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Speaker 1: In Nancy Grace's America really you would think the what
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Speaker 1: happened to the Guadaloupe six guys? Now I'm invested. Are
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Speaker 1: they having some kind of Yellow Jackets type adventure in
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Speaker 1: the wood?
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Speaker 3: Oh god, I hope so you a Yellow Jackets fan.
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Speaker 1: I just know enough to make that reference. And that's it.
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Speaker 1: It's a good show. I just binged it. This part
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Speaker 1: is especially sad. The building hit the hardest at Camp Mysstic,
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Speaker 1: For one, was called bubble In, which that's a little
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Speaker 1: on the nose, and it also housed the youngest campers
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Speaker 1: and everyone at the bubble In died. Wow. And things
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Speaker 1: were not any better at Squirtles Village next, Oh jeez.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Junior campers in general got it the worst because at
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Speaker 2: Camp Mystic, their cabins were in an area of the
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Speaker 2: camp known as the flats because it was on low
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Speaker 2: lying flat land near the Guadaloupe.
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Speaker 1: I just want to state, and no uncertain terms. Politically,
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Speaker 1: I am against this.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think Democrats should have done this.
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Speaker 1: No, and I would I certainly didn't. I voted for
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Speaker 1: Mari Anne Williamson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not vote for flooding along the Guadalupe River,
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Speaker 2: thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't one of her policies, God damn.
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Speaker 2: It, And so, of course, as with any other natural disaster,
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Speaker 2: the right wingers swung into action, blaming this on Democrats
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Speaker 2: and their penchant for controlling the weather.
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Speaker 3: This time it feels a little different, though.
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Speaker 2: A lot of the focus was on one California based
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Speaker 2: company in particular, and the company in question, two days
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Speaker 2: before the flooding, dispersed about seventy grams of silver iodide
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Speaker 2: into a cloud over the state of Texas, with the
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Speaker 2: goal being to make it rain. It's called cloud seating.
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Speaker 2: It's been around for a long time. Name of the
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Speaker 2: company rain Maker. I'm just gonna say, I understand why
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Speaker 2: people are like, hey, you know how we got unprecedented rain.
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Speaker 2: What if it was the rain maker company that showed
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Speaker 2: up two days earlier?
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Speaker 3: What if they had anything to do with it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly it might not really be connected, but
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Speaker 1: it's definitely a straight line, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, it's at least in this case. I don't blame
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Speaker 2: people for being like, was it that?
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Speaker 1: It looks like if it was called floods dot com,
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Speaker 1: you know, we might be suspicious.
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Speaker 2: I Yeah, I do get why people be suspicious of that.
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Speaker 2: And I feel like that acknowledgment is missing from a
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Speaker 2: lot of reporting on this, people just being like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: well they are called rain makers, so I get why
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Speaker 2: people are nervous. The La Times mentions that several independent
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Speaker 2: scientists have debunked this idea on the grounds that the
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Speaker 2: company's actions could not have caused this much rainfall, but
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Speaker 2: they also only linked to one example of it, and
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Speaker 2: the guy debunking it, his main point is, this stuff
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Speaker 2: never works the way companies say it will. What if
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Speaker 2: it did this time?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I never heard the cloud scene. He didn't work, just
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Speaker 1: that it was kind of like I worked only in
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Speaker 1: specific areas, specific circumstances. You had to have a cloud
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Speaker 1: that was ripe for seeding.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it also is normally a thing that only
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Speaker 2: like you're seating just a single cloud basically and trying
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Speaker 2: to produce rain from that cloud. But rain maker, and
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Speaker 2: that was the we'll link to the guy who which.
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Speaker 1: There's no way that this could be cheaper than just
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Speaker 1: importing in more water from the Colorado River or whatever
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Speaker 1: the fuck, Like, Yeah, this has kind of I'm going
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Speaker 1: to I'm going to get a whole biplane involved with
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Speaker 1: some silver iodine and yeah, and now it's like I'm
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Speaker 1: doing like essential oils for my cloud like what and.
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Speaker 3: Cannot stress enough.
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Speaker 2: That's how the events in the post apocalypse film snow
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Speaker 2: Piercer start. Is the government, yeah, cloud seed to stop
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Speaker 2: global warming, and it freezes the fucking planet.
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Speaker 1: Pretty soon we'll be fighting for bugshit.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is my favorite part of that movie, where
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Speaker 2: that guy gets all bent out of shape because the
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Speaker 2: protein bars are made out of bugs. It's like, Man,
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Speaker 2: you admitted to eating a baby earlier in this movie.
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Speaker 2: You're freaked out by bugs.
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Speaker 1: Come on, it's gross, Adam. Come on, I understand that
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Speaker 1: guy's stripe completely.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, babies are tender and delicious bugs in.
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Speaker 1: The future, Adam, Yes, they are. Probably we taught you
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Speaker 1: talk shit now. But the show twenty fifty five. Yeah
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Speaker 1: hit the Patreon so we could buy some more gecko
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Speaker 1: meat another fallout food supplies.
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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
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Speaker 2: So this guy who's debunking this, his argument is it
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Speaker 2: never really works and these companies always over promise and
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Speaker 2: under deliver, which that doesn't feel like debunking to me.
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Speaker 2: That feels like more of a guess than anything.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like the went Hey, like Brad guy
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Speaker 1: with no knowledge of this whatsoever debunk this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it just did not strike me as a
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Speaker 2: very thorough debunking. And I looked at this company's website
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Speaker 2: and it sure doesn't seem like they're just offering to
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Speaker 2: make one cloud rain over your farm area. They have
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Speaker 2: a technology section on their website and they have four
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Speaker 2: main points of their technology keep Growing, which that is
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Speaker 2: just about supplying water to individual farms, which I think
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Speaker 2: is what that debunking video was kind of referring to.
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Speaker 2: Is you get one cloud, you make it rain. That's
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Speaker 2: all you can really do. But then the second point
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Speaker 2: supply utilities. What they are saying there is their cloud
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Speaker 2: seating technology can provide enough water to utility companies that
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Speaker 2: they can then sell that water to the public, which
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Speaker 2: that feels like more than just one individual will cloud.
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Speaker 1: This is like something I added on to the end
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Speaker 1: of my paper in community college to make it sound
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Speaker 1: like it did more work than I like, I can
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Speaker 1: make enough rain to supply fucking California Edison with you
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Speaker 1: shut the fuck up.
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Speaker 2: They also say their system can mitigate droughts.
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Speaker 1: Again, to mitigate droughts, you're using these unnecessarily the five
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Speaker 1: dollars words for two dollars ideas classic pad job padding
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Speaker 1: I call padding. It's been padded.
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Speaker 2: Restore ecosystems. This is a quote rain Maker can restore
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Speaker 2: natural ecosystems for our children to inherit and enjoy. So
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Speaker 2: it seems like they're offering more. I'm not a scientist.
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Speaker 2: I don't I doubt they are connected with this in
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Speaker 2: any way. If they are, I doubt they did it
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Speaker 2: on purpose, Like maybe some shit just went haywire.
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Speaker 1: You'd have to be a real like Phineas and Ferb
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Speaker 1: style fucking villain to just want to drown the Texas
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Speaker 1: Girls Camp.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think even isis is like, well, let's take out
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Speaker 1: a financial center or.
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Speaker 3: Something in that way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's no way to tell America they're the great Satan.
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Speaker 2: And so that was my only issue with the debunking
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Speaker 2: of this is that if you're saying, well, the stuff
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Speaker 2: never works, okay, but new technology could come along that
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Speaker 2: does work better, and I don't know that this company
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Speaker 2: doesn't have that technology.
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Speaker 1: It never struck me as that strange that they could,
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Speaker 1: like if a cloud was about to come that some
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Speaker 1: guy could go and tickle its little cloud clit and
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Speaker 1: make it come water. Yeah, like it's made of water anyway.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: This is a quote also from the technology section of
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Speaker 2: the website. Traditional precipitation enhancement efforts struggled with operational flexibility
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Speaker 2: and measuring impact due to past technological limitations. Recent advancements
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Speaker 2: in drones, numerical weather modeling, and radar algorithms have transformed
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Speaker 2: precipitation enhancement into a viable, scalable pursuit with demonstrable results.
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Speaker 2: The time is now Connor.
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Speaker 1: Wow, this is I just cannot stop hearing a guy
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Speaker 1: trying to make his paper sound better. We were unable
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Speaker 1: to mitigate unforeseen circumstantial foibles of the operating environment, just
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Speaker 1: like just say you didn't buy the right kind of
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Speaker 1: hose the first time.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, they are implying that their technology is
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Speaker 2: different from how this has been done in the past.
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Speaker 1: Well they Here's what they are doing is inviting the
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Speaker 1: fuck out of conspiracy theorists you love to read into
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Speaker 1: things to go. Oh, well, they said they can mitigate
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Speaker 1: a whole draft that certainly would be enough to drown
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Speaker 1: a few girls.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the companies called rain Maker. Of course,
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Speaker 2: people are going to be like, is that what made
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Speaker 2: it rain.
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Speaker 1: Is that the bad guy from the movie Looper, his
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Speaker 1: name was something with rain Maker.
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Speaker 2: I did like that movie, but I don't remember. It's
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Speaker 2: a great movie, and so yeah, I'm not a scientist.
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Speaker 2: I don't fucking know anything.
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Speaker 1: Is the rain Maker? It is a fucking socie fi villain?
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Speaker 3: Oh is it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: And maybe this is too, who knows, But I do
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Speaker 2: think a little better explanation than because this never works
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Speaker 2: is in order? Has rain Maker said anything? That's who?
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Speaker 2: I don't see quoted any any of this, But also
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Speaker 2: why would you say anything if you're them?
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Speaker 1: Because yeah, well it's kind of like, is it all
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Speaker 1: good publicity?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a CNN video where the CEO responds
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Speaker 2: to these allegations, but it's a CNN video. They might
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Speaker 2: as well be pounding it into a stone tablet. I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to fucking read that shit. But I will
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Speaker 2: say the the CEO, he kind of looks like a
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Speaker 2: movie villain too. He's got he's got flowing blonde hair.
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Speaker 2: His name's a Gus Dorico.
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Speaker 1: Augusta's Dorico. Yeah, this guy did it find this? That's
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Speaker 1: a guy who fucked your bitch? In a romance novel.
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Speaker 3: He looks like that too.
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Speaker 1: Augustus Dorico. Yeah, he Fabio plays him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I'm saying all of this as if there's even
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Speaker 2: a chance that there would ever be a discussion around this.
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Speaker 2: The left is just going to dismiss it out of
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Speaker 2: instinct because it's right wingers asking the questions, and right
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Speaker 2: wingers on their part cannot ask questions like this without
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Speaker 2: it being racist or anti semitic in some way, So
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Speaker 2: we're never really going to talk about this. A good
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Speaker 2: example Charlie Kirk. I mean, he's not a good example.
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Speaker 2: He's just a good example of what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 2: He took to his shitty podcast for Nazis to claim
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Speaker 2: that death toll from the floods quote would not have
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Speaker 2: been as high if it wasn't for say it with me, everybody, diversity,
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Speaker 2: equity and inclusion initiatives. This is a failing of DEI
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Speaker 2: is why these floods happened.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's you know, back when it was all white guys,
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Speaker 1: there wasn't any floods.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, this is a quote. The Democrats are so despicable.
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Speaker 2: The Democrats are not lifting a finger to remember the
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Speaker 2: well over one hundred that have died in Texas Hill
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Speaker 2: Country end quote, and then he added, you are not
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Speaker 2: being told by the media anywhere, is that the death
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Speaker 2: toll likely would not have been as high if it
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Speaker 2: wasn't FORDI. This Texas tragedy is just the latest example.
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Speaker 2: It's not just incompetence. This is DEI working to undermine
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Speaker 2: meritocratic institutions, and more people likely died than otherwise.
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Speaker 3: Would have because of THEI.
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Speaker 2: He is literally saying, the chief of the fire department
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Speaker 2: in this area is a black guy, So that's why
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Speaker 2: so many people died.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just there's not much to say when it
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Speaker 1: was an argument that stupid.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so a lot of the social media respet
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Speaker 2: was either right wingers questioning if any cloud seating happened,
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Speaker 2: or people on the left suggesting that this is what
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Speaker 2: states get when they vote for Trump, which that's say.
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Speaker 1: Like to imagine that the protesters they're trying to fuck
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Speaker 1: our clouds. Yeah, I came in here and fucked our
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Speaker 1: clouds and then fucked up our girls and cloud fucker.
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Speaker 2: In Trump's defense, which is the thing I almost never
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Speaker 2: say and probably won't ever say again. Texas in terms
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Speaker 2: of dealing with disasters and weather was a fucking nightmare
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Speaker 2: before Trump got re elected. They are the genius state
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Speaker 2: that decided they should have their own power grid that
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Speaker 2: isn't attached to anyone else's. And it's like, there's a
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Speaker 2: reason power grids are attached. It's so you can get
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Speaker 2: power from the other grids you're attached to if yours fails.
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Speaker 2: Texas doesn't have that, so when their power grid goes down,
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Speaker 2: they're just fucked.
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Speaker 1: They're just a power square when you're unattached to a
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Speaker 1: larger grid.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is that.
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Speaker 2: But there was also a really sad bit of fake
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Speaker 2: news that kind of ran rampant on social media for
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Speaker 2: a while after this. It was a story about how
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Speaker 2: miraculously two young girls were found alive in a tree
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Speaker 2: near Comfort, Texas. The Kerr County Lead, the main newspaper
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Speaker 2: in the area, ran a story about it on July sixth,
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Speaker 2: after sending a reporter to the alleged scene of the rescue.
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Speaker 2: This reporter her name's Jennifer Dean. She spoke to twenty
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Speaker 2: to thirty people who all corroborated the details. This is
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Speaker 2: a quote from Kerr County Lead editor Lewis Amastoy. You
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Speaker 2: had so much enthusiasm in that community for that story.
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Speaker 2: So many people were telling us that they saw the situation.
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Speaker 2: We literally had eye witnesses. So they run with this
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Speaker 2: story and it ends up making national headlines and unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent untrue. This is not a thing that
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Speaker 2: happened at all. And that is according to Kerr County
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Speaker 2: Sheriff Larry Litha l e I t h A. We'll
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Speaker 2: have our research team track him down and find out
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Speaker 2: how to pronounce that last name.
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Speaker 1: Hey, buddy, it's no Augustus Dorico. All right, how about
20:15
Speaker 1: you get a better name.
20:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of hope they did do it with
20:19
Speaker 2: a name like that.
20:20
Speaker 3: The guy kind of looks like a villain. I'm into it.
20:23
Speaker 1: You got me googling a lot of different ugly guys today,
20:26
Speaker 1: Larry Larry Laifa, Hi, Larry Lifa.
20:31
Speaker 3: Litha, Barry Newer.
20:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, look, he does look like he has
20:37
Speaker 1: an uncharacteristically high voice. He's one of these one of
20:41
Speaker 1: these Texas guys whose shoulders He's got to keep his
20:44
Speaker 1: shoulders up right underneath his fucking ears at one hundred
20:46
Speaker 1: percent of the time.
20:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that.
20:49
Speaker 2: So Larry Litha reached out to the Kerr County lead
20:54
Speaker 2: and they retracted their story. This is a quote, Like everyone,
20:58
Speaker 2: we wanted this story to be, but it's a classic
21:01
Speaker 2: tale of misinformation that consumes all of us during a
21:05
Speaker 2: natural disaster. Unfortunately, the story is not true and we
21:09
Speaker 2: are retracting it.
21:10
Speaker 3: End quote.
21:11
Speaker 2: And it seems like this story first popped up because
21:14
Speaker 2: a cleanup volunteer named Cord Shifflet.
21:17
Speaker 1: Names does Cord Shiftlet's a good one too. Yeah, he's
21:21
Speaker 1: a guy who sweeps under the bleachers at at the
21:24
Speaker 1: local football store.
21:26
Speaker 2: He was on Facebook Live when this was happening, and
21:32
Speaker 2: he told this story about these two girls being found.
21:36
Speaker 2: He said, we just got news that two girls were
21:38
Speaker 2: found twenty seven feet up in a tree alive. They've
21:41
Speaker 2: been holding on for over a day, and they found
21:44
Speaker 2: him six miles down river. End quote. He later got
21:48
Speaker 2: back on Facebook Live to apologize for sharing that story.
21:52
Speaker 2: I googled that guy and the first thing that comes
21:56
Speaker 2: up is the Cord Shifflet group. He is apparently an
21:59
Speaker 2: Austin Axis real estate agent.
22:02
Speaker 1: Oh well, you know when you have to Facebook Live
22:06
Speaker 1: to apologize for your earlier Facebook Live. You have cell phoned.
22:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're having a rough day.
22:13
Speaker 2: So these floods have drawn a lot of comparisons to
22:17
Speaker 2: the LA wildfires that happened earlier this year, even though
22:21
Speaker 2: they are two completely different elements, mostly in that in
22:24
Speaker 2: both cases, the National Weather Service did try to warn
22:29
Speaker 2: people in LA. There were warnings about potentially life threatening
22:33
Speaker 2: winds days before the winds that actually caused the fires started,
22:38
Speaker 2: and those warnings were just state officials reiterating warnings The
22:43
Speaker 2: National Weather Service started issuing as early as December thirtieth,
22:48
Speaker 2: and those fires happened in February. I believe, so LA
22:52
Speaker 2: had a little bit of heads up and for some reason,
22:55
Speaker 2: LA officials decided against pre deploying firefighters. And also Karen
23:00
Speaker 2: Bass took off for Ghana shortly before the fire started, like.
23:04
Speaker 1: You can't have if you can't have people thinking you're
23:06
Speaker 1: too liberal, you.
23:06
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah that's true.
23:08
Speaker 2: And yeah she took off like some kind of lady
23:11
Speaker 2: version of Ted Cruz, who was also out of state
23:14
Speaker 2: for this disaster.
23:15
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's a I think they got him at
23:19
Speaker 1: the airport, like he had his neck pillow on and
23:21
Speaker 1: she like he was totally out.
23:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, that fucking guy. Yeah, didn't he go to can
23:26
Speaker 2: Kun when they had that.
23:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went to the most look like, yeah, it
23:30
Speaker 1: was like Barts or something fucking crazy.
23:33
Speaker 3: Yeah.
23:34
Speaker 2: And I think his argument was like, well, I still
23:35
Speaker 2: got to be able to operate, like you could go
23:37
Speaker 2: to fucking Oklahoma, dude. So meanwhile, in Texas, on July second,
23:42
Speaker 2: a few days before the flooding, the National Weather Service
23:45
Speaker 2: warned that quote heavy rainfall with the potential to cause
23:48
Speaker 2: flash flooding is anticipated across West Texas and the Hill Country.
23:53
Speaker 2: And that warning came at least fourteen hours before the flooding.
23:56
Speaker 2: And yet and still Rob Kelly, the top elect official
24:00
Speaker 2: in Kerr County, said, quote rest assured no one knew
24:04
Speaker 2: this kind of flood was coming. Yeah you did, You
24:07
Speaker 2: sure did. Kerr County didn't send out warnings to residence
24:10
Speaker 2: phones until two days after the worst flooding happened, which
24:15
Speaker 2: at that point, just keep your fucking notifications to yourself.
24:20
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, guess what, you can't go to the store. Yeah,
24:23
Speaker 1: I know, not gonna believe. It's very wet out there.
24:26
Speaker 1: And not because of Bruno Mars, the Great Bruno Mars
24:30
Speaker 1: in the sky.
24:31
Speaker 2: There were also warnings to not move vehicles through floodwaters,
24:35
Speaker 2: but people at Camp Mystic decided to evacuate campers that way. Anyway,
24:40
Speaker 2: last bus got stuck. All thirty seven adults and children
24:43
Speaker 2: on board were swept away. Also, this part blows my mind.
24:48
Speaker 2: The area of the storm hit it's called flash flood
24:51
Speaker 2: Alley on account of how flash floods have killed a
24:54
Speaker 2: bunch of people in that area previously. In nineteen eighty seven,
24:58
Speaker 2: floodwaters killed ten teenage campers in that exact same area,
25:03
Speaker 2: and in December ninety one and January ninety two, historic
25:06
Speaker 2: flood levels in the area killed thirteen people. So the
25:10
Speaker 2: move would have been to evacuate these camps well ahead
25:13
Speaker 2: of time.
25:14
Speaker 1: And recognize it. It's been an unusually long time since
25:17
Speaker 1: we've had a flash flood and flash flood Alley.
25:20
Speaker 2: And it seems like the reason they didn't evacuate is
25:25
Speaker 2: because it was the fourth of July and they didn't
25:28
Speaker 2: want to.
25:28
Speaker 1: Like this is a Jaws defense, yeah, kind.
25:31
Speaker 2: Of, They like didn't want to disappoint all these kids.
25:34
Speaker 2: And it's like, you're not setting off fireworks during historic
25:37
Speaker 2: rainfall bub get those fucking kids out of there.
25:41
Speaker 1: Well, and you know those pretty disappointed kids when they're
25:44
Speaker 1: dead because they can never have ice cream.
25:46
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly now, those kids will never see fourth of July.
25:50
Speaker 2: So yeah, this could have been avoided for sure if
25:53
Speaker 2: even just those National Weather Service warnings were acted on.
25:57
Speaker 3: So that sucks.
25:58
Speaker 2: We also haven't mentioned it because of course it doesn't
26:02
Speaker 2: come up in any of the conspiracy theories about this.
26:04
Speaker 2: But climate change is obviously a huge factor in all
26:08
Speaker 2: of this. I don't know how, I don't know how
26:10
Speaker 2: climate change works, but I have no doubt that that
26:14
Speaker 2: is a big.
26:15
Speaker 3: Part of this.
26:15
Speaker 1: The little carbon atoms go up into the sky and
26:19
Speaker 1: then the sun bounces off of them. Adam, don't you remember.
26:22
Speaker 3: I do not remember.
26:24
Speaker 1: Al Gore laid this shit out for you in like
26:26
Speaker 1: two thousand and three.
26:26
Speaker 2: Brother, I did see that documentary in theaters, which, in retrospect,
26:31
Speaker 2: what a fucking government boot liquor.
26:34
Speaker 3: I am. I want to see Al Gore in theaters.
26:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've interested to watch that documentary now because obviously,
26:41
Speaker 1: like we're like a lot of shit did happen and
26:43
Speaker 1: a lot of shit didn't happen. I well, what's I
26:47
Speaker 1: don't think we were really expecting about climate change is
26:50
Speaker 1: like it will just change and get stranger like than
26:52
Speaker 1: the other's fucking more hurricanes and shit like that.
26:55
Speaker 2: You know, it seems like that's all happening. I remember
26:59
Speaker 2: Jesse Venturea when he had his Conspiracy Theory TV show,
27:03
Speaker 2: which fantastic mean Olivia Heider reviewed every episode of it.
27:07
Speaker 2: He's got an episode about al Gore and climate change,
27:12
Speaker 2: and his argument.
27:13
Speaker 3: Is just al Gore wants to make money. That's it.
27:18
Speaker 2: That's his whole argument is al Gore is just doing
27:21
Speaker 2: it for money, which the climate still sucks, so maybe, yeah, it's.
27:25
Speaker 1: Good business, you know, like it's one of the if
27:27
Speaker 1: you go run and say something sucks, and you say
27:29
Speaker 1: politics sucks, the little politics probably suck. In thirty years,
27:32
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, Bill Maher continues to have a job.
27:35
Speaker 2: And yeah, if we didn't mention climate change here, someone
27:38
Speaker 2: in the fucking comments would have mouthed off about it,
27:41
Speaker 2: and we don't have time for that. But yeah, obviously
27:45
Speaker 2: climate change is the culprit here.
27:48
Speaker 1: And more specifically, you're the climate change from your car,
27:52
Speaker 1: did it?
27:52
Speaker 3: Yes?
27:53
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't drive because I don't have a license,
27:56
Speaker 2: so I did not contribute to this at all.
28:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, Adam cuts his lines with a Ralph's card.
28:04
Speaker 2: So people have been quick to blame the Trump administration
28:10
Speaker 2: and their doge efforts for the failure to respond to
28:13
Speaker 2: this disaster in a way that could have saved lives,
28:16
Speaker 2: and that is not unwarranted at all, if you can
28:21
Speaker 2: believe it. Department of Homeland Secretary Slash absolute fucking ghoul
28:26
Speaker 2: of a person, Christy Nome, recently put a rule in
28:29
Speaker 2: place that requires every contract in grant over one hundred
28:33
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. These are FEMA contracts and grants to be
28:36
Speaker 2: signed off on by her personally before they can be approved.
28:41
Speaker 2: This is a quote from a FEMA official speaking to CNN.
28:45
Speaker 2: We were operating under a clear set of guidance. Lean forward,
28:50
Speaker 2: be prepared, anticipate what the state needs and be ready
28:54
Speaker 2: to deliver it. That is not as clear of an
28:56
Speaker 2: intent for us at the moment end quote.
29:00
Speaker 1: That sucks again. What does this even mean? Is this
29:03
Speaker 1: tape to the breakroom wall of the pink Berry that
29:06
Speaker 1: I work at? Yeah, lean forward, be prepared, anticipate what
29:10
Speaker 1: the state needs and be ready to deliver it. Yeah,
29:12
Speaker 1: it seems like he's trying to say, we used to
29:14
Speaker 1: be able to act and now we're not. But yeah,
29:18
Speaker 1: something like that.
29:18
Speaker 3: He took the long way around.
29:20
Speaker 2: One example that cited of how this change impacted the
29:24
Speaker 2: response is that in the past, FEMA would have prepositioned
29:28
Speaker 2: urban search and rescue crews in the area, and they
29:31
Speaker 2: were not able to do that this time around without
29:34
Speaker 2: Christy Nomes approval. And the Trump administration responded to all
29:39
Speaker 2: of these claims in the only way they know how,
29:43
Speaker 2: by just saying, no, that's not true. This is a
29:45
Speaker 2: quote from Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLoughlin. FEMA
29:50
Speaker 2: is shifting from bloated, DC centric dead weight to a lean,
29:54
Speaker 2: deployable disaster force that empowers state actors to provide relief
29:59
Speaker 2: for the s citizens. The old processes are being replaced
30:03
Speaker 2: because they failed Americans in real emergencies for decades. I
30:07
Speaker 2: feel like these procedures failed Americans in an emergency also
30:12
Speaker 2: because more than one hundred people died. So that quote
30:17
Speaker 2: is batshit insane to me.
30:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least, it's like all bullshitting in the same direction.
30:23
Speaker 1: I understand what she's trying to convince me to do
30:25
Speaker 1: for the on behalf of the man, and it's this
30:29
Speaker 1: is just like like classic like selling you shit in
30:32
Speaker 1: telling you it's a Sunday. It's like fucking a lean
30:35
Speaker 1: deployable disaster Force, Like, I'm sorry, what is this a
30:38
Speaker 1: fucking South Park bit? There's this team of superheroes. You're
30:41
Speaker 1: talking about a lean deployable disaster Like, that's just a
30:45
Speaker 1: nice way of saying, we cut all the money out
30:48
Speaker 1: of your disaster force.
30:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it really is a classic Trump administration
30:54
Speaker 2: thing where people are like, well, this, this, this is
30:57
Speaker 2: happening because of your policy, and not only do they
31:00
Speaker 2: deny it, but they're like, no, this, this and this
31:02
Speaker 2: is actually going great. It's all all those things you
31:05
Speaker 2: said that are going bad, they're actually going great.
31:08
Speaker 1: Or things that people hate because they're underfunded. The solution
31:11
Speaker 1: is to defund them entirely.
31:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
31:13
Speaker 2: And yeah, this is another example of that of people
31:16
Speaker 2: being like, man, FEMA sure was slow to reply, and
31:20
Speaker 2: the Trump Administration's like, no, oh, they got there faster
31:23
Speaker 2: than anyone's ever seen. Trump said that, he said, you
31:25
Speaker 2: had people there as fast as anybody's ever seen.
31:28
Speaker 3: No, you fucking didn't. You did not, God damn it.
31:32
Speaker 1: We people say, well, like you know, we don't have
31:34
Speaker 1: the meritocracy. We have like a cachistocracy. We have like
31:36
Speaker 1: a dick ride tocracy. It's just like whoever can ride
31:41
Speaker 1: his fucking points like it's it's just the game is
31:45
Speaker 1: pretending that whatever he said is real, and whoever is
31:48
Speaker 1: the best at that rises the highest and the vastest. Yeah.
31:51
Speaker 2: So, another really easy to identify culprit here is the
31:55
Speaker 2: fact that, despite being firmly positioned in an area called
31:58
Speaker 2: flash Flood Alley, Kerr County has no dedicated flood warning
32:03
Speaker 2: system at all. They started planning one years ago but
32:07
Speaker 2: didn't have the money to pay for it, so to
32:10
Speaker 2: that end they turned to FEMA, but all available FEMA
32:14
Speaker 2: money was already earmarked for other projects. So that's one
32:18
Speaker 2: of the big problems here. Kerr County is just one
32:20
Speaker 2: of a whole bunch of areas in Texas that need
32:23
Speaker 2: to tighten up their flood warning and response practices. There
32:27
Speaker 2: are currently fifty four billion dollars in flood projects that
32:31
Speaker 2: are waiting to be built in the state. You know,
32:33
Speaker 2: I briefly thought of moving to Texas, and I cannot,
32:37
Speaker 2: for the life of me, understand what possessed me to
32:39
Speaker 2: even consider that shit, Yeah, that seems.
32:42
Speaker 1: Very odd for you. It's very hot, very lame.
32:46
Speaker 3: Well, I hot.
32:47
Speaker 2: I don't mind because I grew up in the Midwest,
32:50
Speaker 2: so I'm never going back to winter weather.
32:53
Speaker 3: Sure.
32:54
Speaker 2: Also the lack of legal weed definitely put me off.
32:58
Speaker 2: But also just all of this shit Texas has fucking
33:02
Speaker 2: falling apart.
33:03
Speaker 3: I think it was that.
33:04
Speaker 2: The thing that like sealed the deal for me not
33:07
Speaker 2: considering moving to Texas was those winter storms and how
33:11
Speaker 2: bad their grid handled that shit.
33:13
Speaker 1: No thanks, yeah, because then you know what the next
33:17
Speaker 1: step of that little thought experiment is. You know who
33:21
Speaker 1: has guns? Everybody?
33:23
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I mean I'd get a gun if I
33:25
Speaker 3: moved to Texas.
33:26
Speaker 1: Well, you might. You might need groceries if the power
33:28
Speaker 1: grid goes out.
33:29
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
33:30
Speaker 2: And so now this money is going to be even
33:33
Speaker 2: harder to come by with Trump cutting FEMA funding and
33:37
Speaker 2: putting the responsibility of recovering from disasters on the States.
33:41
Speaker 2: This is a quote from Christopher Steubing, executive director of
33:44
Speaker 2: the Texas flood Plaine Management Association TIFMA. I think it's
33:49
Speaker 2: going to be a big gap to fill. FEMA has
33:52
Speaker 2: a reason to be around, and they need to be there.
33:55
Speaker 2: There's a lot of programs that they engage with and
33:57
Speaker 2: oversee that communities rely on, and quote, yeah, like building
34:01
Speaker 2: all those camps to put dissonance in. Remember that shit
34:04
Speaker 2: when George Bush was in office and every person on
34:08
Speaker 2: the left was convinced he was building FEMA camps to
34:11
Speaker 2: put people in. And then cut to ten years later
34:14
Speaker 2: and everyone on the left is like, shut up, you
34:16
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists.
34:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
34:18
Speaker 1: I think I was busy being eleven, but I'm sure
34:22
Speaker 1: that was happening.
34:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would explain your blatant ignorance.
34:27
Speaker 1: Of I didn't know I was a hair's breadth away
34:30
Speaker 1: from being put in the labor camp.
34:33
Speaker 2: It was such a talking point when Bush was in office,
34:36
Speaker 2: like people were convinced he was opening FEMA camps to
34:40
Speaker 2: put like protesters and shit in. It's like, come on,
34:44
Speaker 2: we would put immigrants there first, obviously.
34:48
Speaker 1: Like we're doing now, Yeah, exactly. And then and you
34:51
Speaker 1: know who's next, homeless people. Yeah, we're gonna start killing
34:54
Speaker 1: homeless people like tomorrow.
34:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be immigrants, homeless people, trans people think
35:00
Speaker 2: are top three that are gonna get it first. And
35:03
Speaker 2: then yeah, probably podcasters after that.
35:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
35:09
Speaker 2: Independent media, I mean, independent media is gonna fucking get
35:12
Speaker 2: it too, because he can't like withdraw funding from those outlets,
35:18
Speaker 2: so he's gonna have.
35:18
Speaker 1: An He can't say, I'm gonna stop calling into conspiracy
35:21
Speaker 1: the show so we don't get our scoop.
35:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
35:24
Speaker 2: He has also said he just wants to eliminate FEMA
35:28
Speaker 2: altogether eventually. But the Trump administration recently ended a four
35:33
Speaker 2: point six billion dollar program called Brick Building Resilient Infrastructure
35:38
Speaker 2: and Communities, which included a bunch of already approved grants
35:42
Speaker 2: for flood projects around the country, So this shit will
35:46
Speaker 2: probably happen again. In twenty twenty four, Texas released a
35:51
Speaker 2: statewide plan for addressing flood risk, and one of their
35:54
Speaker 2: findings in this report, they put out one in every
35:58
Speaker 2: six people in Texas lives or works.
36:00
Speaker 3: In a flood hazard area.
36:02
Speaker 1: Wow.
36:02
Speaker 2: You wouldn't expect that Texas is going to be the
36:05
Speaker 2: state that falls into the ocean someday, but here we are.
36:08
Speaker 2: Maybe it's gonna be yea.
36:09
Speaker 1: And I guess I always thought Galveston would end up
36:12
Speaker 1: being there, you know, some fun little redneck Atlantis. But
36:16
Speaker 1: I didn't know that they were just getting rained out
36:19
Speaker 1: in the fucking floods all the guy damn time.
36:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always pictured Texas As like not having that
36:25
Speaker 2: much rain.
36:26
Speaker 1: I've never been rain when i've been there. Yeah, I know,
36:30
Speaker 1: I've always thought it was just hot and dry, But.
36:32
Speaker 3: Also I'm stupid about stuff like that.
36:35
Speaker 2: The first time I ever toured, the first show we
36:39
Speaker 2: ever did was in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and I did
36:41
Speaker 2: an interview with a college newspaper the day before the show.
36:46
Speaker 2: And the show was in November, and this kid interviewing
36:50
Speaker 2: me goes, you're coming here from la are you ready
36:52
Speaker 2: for the cold weather? I was like, excuse me, you're
36:55
Speaker 2: in the desert. It's it's not going to be cold
36:57
Speaker 2: there at all, and just snoring that all you ever
37:01
Speaker 2: hear about the desert is cold as shit at night,
37:04
Speaker 2: And yeah, albaquere it was fucking freezing. Had I not
37:07
Speaker 2: done that interview, I would have had to like touch
37:10
Speaker 2: down and go buy a coat somewhere, because I had
37:13
Speaker 2: no fucking concept that Albuquerque was going to be cold.
37:17
Speaker 1: Did peck all your Greenland clothes for your Iceland trip
37:19
Speaker 1: and all your Iceland closed for your Greenland trip?
37:22
Speaker 2: So there's another issue at play here, and this one
37:26
Speaker 2: is a little complicated. There are these things called FEMA
37:28
Speaker 2: flood maps.
37:29
Speaker 1: They identify Bruno Mars concerts in your area.
37:33
Speaker 2: They are maps meant to show what parts of the
37:36
Speaker 2: country like right down to individual homes and businesses are
37:40
Speaker 2: situated within flood zones. And for the longest time, experts
37:45
Speaker 2: have said these maps actually underestimate the risks of flooding
37:49
Speaker 2: and should be expanded. Unfortunately, Camp Mystic, along with around
37:54
Speaker 2: three dozen nearby luxury homes, managed to shrink the flood
37:59
Speaker 2: zones around their properties. They did it by way of
38:03
Speaker 2: something called a letter of map amendment.
38:06
Speaker 1: That's some shit that only rich people have time to do.
38:08
Speaker 1: Send in a letter of map amendment. Oh my god.
38:11
Speaker 2: And the article we'll link to about this from the
38:13
Speaker 2: Houston Chronicle points out that exact thing. You're not getting
38:17
Speaker 2: a lot of these letters coming from fucking trailer parks.
38:20
Speaker 2: It's rich people building really nice homes.
38:24
Speaker 1: Jeeves. You need to look up that map.
38:26
Speaker 2: Thing, and basically what you do is you send this,
38:30
Speaker 2: you have surveyors come out, and if they can determine
38:33
Speaker 2: that your property is even six inches above this floodline,
38:38
Speaker 2: FEMA will remove your property from this map. And what
38:42
Speaker 2: that means is you don't have to get flood insurance.
38:46
Speaker 2: Your regular homeowners or business insurance is going to be
38:50
Speaker 2: way cheaper because you're not in that flood zone. And
38:54
Speaker 2: a twenty seventeen study found that nearly nine out of
38:58
Speaker 2: ten of these appeals are successful. And what I found
39:02
Speaker 2: interesting about this is in this article they mention, you know,
39:08
Speaker 2: this is just kind of a by product. This is
39:11
Speaker 2: sort of a side story. Even if these buildings were
39:14
Speaker 2: on the FEMA flood maps, it isn't like that would
39:18
Speaker 2: have saved any lives. And I don't think I agree
39:22
Speaker 2: with that, because, on the one hand, if you're just
39:26
Speaker 2: a rich person building a house and you're willing to
39:29
Speaker 2: roll the dice on not having flood insurance in a
39:31
Speaker 2: flood area, who fucking cares, Like, go nuts, That's exactly
39:35
Speaker 2: what's happening. Like they even interview that, They even interview
39:41
Speaker 2: a guy who's like, Yeah, I'm gonna have to pay
39:43
Speaker 2: for all this flood damage, but I'm fucking rich.
39:44
Speaker 3: I don't give a shit.
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Speaker 1: All that money I saved un flood insurance.
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Speaker 2: But Camp Mystic feels different. Camp Mystic owners have successfully
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Speaker 2: petitioned to remove thirty buildings at their site from the
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Speaker 2: FEMA maps, with some of those buildings just sitting a
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Speaker 2: foot or two above the floodline, and that, for me,
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Speaker 2: raises the question of if those thirty buildings were not
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Speaker 2: removed from the flood map, they would have had to
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Speaker 2: pay a whole bunch of money in extra insurance. Would
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Speaker 2: this camp have still been there if they didn't get
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Speaker 2: removed from that flood map, or would it have made
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Speaker 2: it too expensive to operate there, Because if that's the case,
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Speaker 2: this absolutely would have saved lives. Because one thing you
40:30
Speaker 2: find when you're looking into this, this is a thing
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Speaker 2: that happens everywhere these camps. They intentionally put their camps
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Speaker 2: right next to rivers because the land tends to be
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Speaker 2: flat and it's pretty. But in this case, you're not
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Speaker 2: just next to a river. You're next to a river
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Speaker 2: that one has killed more than twenty people since the
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Speaker 2: fucking eighties. And also you're in a flash flood zone.
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Speaker 2: So if they didn't get removed from those FEMA maps,
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Speaker 2: would they have been able to put that camp there
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Speaker 2: in the first place. Would it have been financially feasible
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Speaker 2: for him to do it? And if not, then I
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Speaker 2: think this is actually a big part of why those
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Speaker 2: girls died, because this camp probably shouldn't have been there
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Speaker 2: in the first place. It's there's and there's even other
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Speaker 2: buildings and other areas of this camp that got no
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Speaker 2: flooding at all because they're just situated in a different spot.
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Speaker 2: But they put all the youngest campers right next to
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Speaker 2: the river, and that is who primarily died at that camp.
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Speaker 2: And I just feel like with that FEMA flood map,
41:37
Speaker 2: that might have made it not possible for them to
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Speaker 2: do that financially and kids.
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Speaker 1: Those buildings, you know, maybe, yeah, that's a great point,
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Speaker 1: could have been prohibitively expensive.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they might have, you know, had to move the
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Speaker 2: camp somewhere else that's less pretty, But at least you
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Speaker 2: wouldn't have dozens of campers dead from.
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Speaker 1: Flooding pretty less floody, you know. Yeah, it's kind of
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Speaker 1: a kind of a balance every camp owner has to
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Speaker 1: ask himself.
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Speaker 3: I mean, flooding can be pretty, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I imagine a guy on she'd apply withoud just
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Speaker 1: floating through downtown Los Angeles, just kind of kind of beautiful,
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Speaker 1: you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think I think that's our episode we
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Speaker 2: we did it? Do we have any final thoughts on
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Speaker 2: Texas flooding? I would like to make it clear I
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Speaker 2: don't actually think the rain Maker company is responsible for this.
42:29
Speaker 2: I just love the coincidence that a company called rain
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Speaker 2: Maker showed up two days before all this and boy
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Speaker 2: did someone make it rain But definitely.
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Speaker 1: I think the rain Maker from the film Looper was
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Speaker 1: behind this. That guy was no good. He had to
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Speaker 1: look he was. He was causing problems in the future.
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Speaker 1: What makes you think he wouldn't cause problems in the past.
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Speaker 2: That's an excellent point. So Connor, thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for doing the pod. As always, what do we have?
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Speaker 2: This feels like the ideal time to plug some shit.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a new website soon, I know I
43:02
Speaker 2: said that last episode, but it's coming. And also a
43:05
Speaker 2: couple of new podcasts in your area which is about
43:09
Speaker 2: local news from around the country that's not getting enough
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Speaker 2: attention and what in the world, same thing, but international news.
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Speaker 2: You can get both of those in the same feed.
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Speaker 2: As you don't even like this show, which is now
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Speaker 2: called The Monday Show. That's back too, And that's all
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Speaker 2: I got, Connor, what do you want to plug.
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Speaker 1: You can check out my comedy special live in TUCSONA
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Speaker 1: on YouTube dot com, YouTube dot com Conomic Spadin live
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Speaker 1: in Tucson for an hour of lash.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's it. Let's get the fuck out
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Speaker 2: of here. Connor say goodbye bye everybody. Goodbye everybody.
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Speaker 3: We love you. She cont