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It's Just A Matter Of Taste: LATEX GRENADE Do Things Their Way · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Hello, hello.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Doing well. How are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good. Welcome, Ali from Heavy Mag.
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  Speaker 3: Pleasure to meet you, Ali. Jeff Davis with the Latex Grenade.
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  Speaker 2: Likewise. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: So you guys have been having a bit of excitement
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  Speaker 4: happening for yourselves of late.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a pretty biblical couple months for sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Do you want to tell the good people here at
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  Speaker 4: Heavy about what's been happening for you guys?
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  Speaker 2: And firstly, whereabouts are you guys from?
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  Speaker 3: Yes uh we're uh we're from the southern california region
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  Speaker 3: um san diego uh california um we uh we uh
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  Speaker 3: have been around for for some time you know um
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  Speaker 3: we uh happened had the pleasure to get back into
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  Speaker 3: the studio and record our second full-length album this past
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  Speaker 3: this past few months ironically though uh We have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of origins in South Africa, hence Warren Gibson, our
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  Speaker 3: PR guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So we're well-traveled, if you will.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, trying to sort out time zones between Warren and myself.
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  Speaker 4: He does bands in the UK as well, and it's
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  Speaker 4: just like everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: It's insane.
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  Speaker 3: Australia over there is always the hardest one because you've
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  Speaker 3: got to count like 17 hours. You've got to count
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  Speaker 3: like nine hours back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah and there's like daylight savings can be thrown in there.
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  Speaker 1: Is it pacific daylight time or pacific standard.
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  Speaker 4: Time australian eastern standard time at the moment daylight saving
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  Speaker 4: time starts i think around october from memory i should.
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  Speaker 2: Know like it only happens six months of the year
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  Speaker 2: every year yeah and i.
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  Speaker 4: Live on the border so the state like five minutes
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  Speaker 4: north doesn't have it so it's like an hour behind
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  Speaker 4: which is this where.
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  Speaker 1: We're in uh where in australia are you guys based.
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  Speaker 4: I'm based on the border of queensland new south wales
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  Speaker 4: so like northern rivers byron bay gold coast area oh
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  Speaker 4: i love.
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  Speaker 3: The gold coast oh my goodness it's very san diego
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  Speaker 3: to be.
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  Speaker 4: Honest it is it absolutely is yes it's very very similar.
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  Speaker 1: To coolangada i could live.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that's great so my partner's in coolangada and i'm
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  Speaker 4: down in cabarita beach just down south.
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  Speaker 3: So that is the uh That is one of my
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  Speaker 3: favorite parts of the world, the Gold Coast.
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  Speaker 2: My local.
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  Speaker 1: Super Bay, Kira, Durban. I've been there a couple times.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. I love the area.
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  Speaker 4: So you're a surfer, so you would know then. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm in Cabarita Headlands, so it's.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man, Byron Bay is so, that whole area, Lenox Head, oh,
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  Speaker 3: my goodness. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Great live music scene as well, so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. You're right, it is.
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  Speaker 1: There is a good little punk rock scene over there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, especially in our little pocket, like, even the, you know, quite,
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  Speaker 4: you know, between, like, you know, Burley Heads and, say, and, like, Byron, it's, it's, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's happening. It's very alive and well, so we're very
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  Speaker 4: blessed to be able to do it all when it's
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  Speaker 4: close enough to Brisbane and, you know, our local, the
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  Speaker 4: Cooley Hotel, they've been getting some great bands lately, which
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  Speaker 4: means I haven't got to travel too far as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's been awesome, so.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. There we go. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So you guys got a new album out, which is
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  Speaker 4: epic so what number is that for you guys how
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  Speaker 4: many is that now.
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  Speaker 3: We have uh so we have let's see our self-title
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  Speaker 3: uh mostly eps.
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  Speaker 1: We've we've uh yeah the the old the old school
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  Speaker 1: of thought was uh i guess it's old but it
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  Speaker 1: was new at.
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  Speaker 3: The time was like like full-length albums you know 10
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  Speaker 3: years ago wasn't a great move um uh from the
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  Speaker 3: record labels advice uh you didn't want to like blow
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  Speaker 3: your your your whole catalog on one album so we
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  Speaker 3: So we grew up, we started Latex Grenade a lot
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  Speaker 3: with just releasing EPs. So we have our self-title, a five-track.
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  Speaker 3: That was 2010. Then we went into our FDR era.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably our more well-known era.
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  Speaker 1: FDR Part 1 was 2013. FDR Part 2 was 2016.
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  Speaker 3: And that era, that four-year span, we did probably our
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  Speaker 3: most touring totally weekly. we went on five, five to
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  Speaker 3: eight national tours in that era that span coast to coast, obviously, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Australia in the sense of going from Perth to Sydney,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we did that, uh, you know, we did that, uh,
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  Speaker 3: probably six or seven times, uh, really played the, uh,
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  Speaker 3: college spring break circuit in that era.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, uh, and then, um, 20, 2017, 2016, I met
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  Speaker 3: Theo Kraus, uh, South African, uh, legendary band, the Springbok
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  Speaker 3: nude girls producer, uh, uh, engineer. Uh, we met him, uh, through, uh,
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  Speaker 3: the mastering house, Lursen Mastery. And they, they're the guys
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  Speaker 3: who mastered most of Foo Fighters stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And, uh, they, they sent me over his way.
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  Speaker 3: And, uh, Theo invited us. He said, Hey man, like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Let me invite you guys out. Let me invite you
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  Speaker 3: guys out to come play with my band in South Africa.
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  Speaker 3: And then we'll record The Cage, which was our follow-up
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  Speaker 3: to FDR Part 2. So this is 2017. And so
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  Speaker 3: we go out to South Africa, us ignorant Americans over here.
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  Speaker 3: I'll take the blame on this, but I did no
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  Speaker 3: research on Theo's band.
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  Speaker 2: At all at the time.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's the coolest dude ever, by the way. It
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  Speaker 1: was kind of like what we just did just now
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  Speaker 1: two minutes ago.
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  Speaker 3: We just started talking about surfing when I met him
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  Speaker 3: and we ended up talking about surfing for like four hours.
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  Speaker 3: Like which wave is better in the West coast or South,
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  Speaker 3: South Africa has great surf also.
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  Speaker 1: They do.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Took me out to J band stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: When we went out there and, and so, so anyways,
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  Speaker 1: I did do like, so fast.
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  Speaker 3: Forward, he's like, we were like, Hey, will you, will
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  Speaker 3: you mix this next album for us? And he's like, yeah, dude. Like,
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  Speaker 3: why don't you guys come out and tour with us
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  Speaker 3: while we, while we track and record the album. So
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  Speaker 3: you don't, kind of kill two birds with one stone.
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  Speaker 3: And he wanted to kind of, kind of help fund
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  Speaker 3: the album in a way of, I got a little
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  Speaker 3: small tour, you know?
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  Speaker 1: So we, so we go out there, we go out
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  Speaker 1: there and.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, like I said, I did no research, nothing. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't even listen to him. It was a total asshole move. But, um,
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  Speaker 3: but we, the very first, we get to the airport
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  Speaker 3: and like, we're just picked up by like chauffeurs and like, like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: they take us to this like five star, like bed
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  Speaker 3: and breakfast.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on here, man?
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  Speaker 3: What's going on? And, uh, anyways, uh, or we take
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  Speaker 3: a sound check and we look and it's like this
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  Speaker 3: amp theater.
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  Speaker 1: It's the, it's a, it's in Durbanville, Cape town.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, this amp called the quarry holds like, it was
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  Speaker 3: a very big venue. We're like, why are we playing
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  Speaker 3: on such a massive venue? It's like 6,000 people. And
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  Speaker 3: so we do a sound check and we play and,
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  Speaker 3: and there's like 4,000 people there. They're just like, they're
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  Speaker 3: just like bang into the Springbok nude girls.
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  Speaker 1: Like, So apparently this band, the Springbok Nude Girls, is
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  Speaker 1: like the Pearl Jam of South Africa.
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  Speaker 3: Like in the 90s, like right when apartheid kind of broke,
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  Speaker 3: they were like the band. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And so anyways, we played like.
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  Speaker 3: Seven or eight just massive sold out shows for them.
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  Speaker 1: And it was one of the most incredible things ever.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool.
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  Speaker 1: To do it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea what you're walking into when it's
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  Speaker 4: like the country's finest band.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, dude, it was like royalty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
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  Speaker 1: So we tracked The Cage. We tracked The Cage 2017. Nice.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, you move into the dark era, dark
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  Speaker 3: ages of music after that into 2020.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We released a couple singles. And we did release one
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  Speaker 1: full length in 2012. yeah nice going green and uh.
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  Speaker 3: But um up until that the pandemic really put a
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  Speaker 3: squash on a lot of things we had a bill
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  Speaker 3: yeah pretty bill with the south by southwest i'm sure
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  Speaker 3: over with you guys as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it was it was a weird time it was
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  Speaker 4: a weird time and day like i don't find just
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  Speaker 4: talking to artists and i talked about it's all over
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  Speaker 4: the world and there's, it's just, you know, schools of
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  Speaker 4: thought pretty much around that.
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  Speaker 2: There's either like it really hurt and like it.
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  Speaker 4: Stopped a lot of things happening naturally, but it also
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  Speaker 4: was like the birthplace of so many amazing creative acts
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  Speaker 4: that people just knuckled in and collaborated with people that
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  Speaker 4: they may not have necessarily. And, and just the stuff
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  Speaker 4: that people come up with, or, you know, we're stuck
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  Speaker 4: in a, you know, in our homeless, get in the
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  Speaker 4: garage and like form a band.
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  Speaker 2: And it's kind of cool, you know, because you're.
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  Speaker 4: Seeing that now, the after effects, like, you know, what,
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  Speaker 4: six years on, And it's just like, wow, this is a,
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  Speaker 4: you know, yeah, it sucked. But like for music, I
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  Speaker 4: think it was like kind of what we needed. And
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  Speaker 4: also too, like people were just thrusting over that live
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  Speaker 4: music experience that we never got to have.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was like huge.
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  Speaker 1: It's um, pause for two years, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I would have done anything for an overpriced beer and
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  Speaker 4: a plastic cup at a shitty venue.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's like, I'll.
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  Speaker 3: Pay 12 Australian dollars for this Guinness any day of
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  Speaker 3: the week, man, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: The price of beer is just crazy. That is one thing.
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  Speaker 1: About Australia that's wild. You guys get taxed so hard
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  Speaker 1: on your beer.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned something during the pandemic that was kind of
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  Speaker 3: interesting that in a strange way boosted some level of creativity.
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  Speaker 3: I think we went through one of those drinking too
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  Speaker 3: much bored eras as well.
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  Speaker 4: Uh with the band we were essential they were open
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  Speaker 4: everywhere like what.
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  Speaker 3: The fuck we went into the studio and recorded like
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  Speaker 3: a six song.
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  Speaker 1: Cover album in 2020 and.
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  Speaker 3: It was just like ridiculous but we haven't released it
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  Speaker 3: yet technically uh i don't know if we ever will
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  Speaker 3: honestly but it was just like pop bangers like we
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  Speaker 3: we we redid made like a metal version of like
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  Speaker 3: bad Rome.
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  Speaker 1: I think we did like a live in La Vida Loca.
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  Speaker 3: We were just drinking so much and we're like, dude,
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  Speaker 3: should we record it? You're like, Oh, that's sick.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it was, it was a, it was a,
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  Speaker 1: you're right. It was, it was an interesting time.
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  Speaker 3: And as you move, as you move into this album,
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  Speaker 3: this album is, I would characterize, without a doubt, as
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  Speaker 3: post-pandemic darkness.
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  Speaker 1: Without a doubt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of the themes come out of the somberness
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  Speaker 3: of the pandemic.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: On this album.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of the songs were written in 2021
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  Speaker 3: to 2023. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because 2021 kind of was when it was in
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  Speaker 4: full lockdown mode over here. And we were like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: you have to cough into a fucking QR code before
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  Speaker 4: you can do anything.
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  Speaker 1: Cough into a QR code.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it was... There were so many bad things that
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: came out of it, half of them.
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  Speaker 1: And I do know you guys had it worse than
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  Speaker 1: we did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was insane.
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  Speaker 1: You had this.
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  Speaker 3: Level of dark side of capitalism. You mentioned the toughest
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  Speaker 3: part of it. We actually, one of our songs that's
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  Speaker 3: on this album is called Your Pretty Life. Yeah. You
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  Speaker 3: mentioned something that, a theme of that, and there's a
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  Speaker 3: phrase in this song but it talks about just like,
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  Speaker 3: like imagining how difficult it was for an elderly person to.
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  Speaker 1: Just die alone.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. You know, and not, not allowed the family
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  Speaker 3: could see them or just, just how, how alienated that
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  Speaker 3: must feel.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I, 2021 was.
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  Speaker 4: A huge year for me. I actually lost my mom
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  Speaker 4: and my brother in exactly 30 days and it was,
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  Speaker 4: This window of timeframe, it was April, March, April. And
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  Speaker 4: that was before they had restrictions on fucking funerals. So
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  Speaker 4: you couldn't have more than like 10 people, which fortunately
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  Speaker 4: I didn't have to deal with. But just the thought
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  Speaker 4: of that, like it buckled me. It was hard enough,
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  Speaker 4: but healing from it.
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  Speaker 1: Lots of good art. You know, that's how, that's how
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us musicians cope with it.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Some of our best work is on this album. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's awesome. This adversity is.
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  Speaker 3: I think was a, was a, not just talking about specifically,
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  Speaker 3: but this, the level of sadness and, uh, darkness that
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  Speaker 3: came out of this really causes, causes you to, uh,
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  Speaker 3: to dig deep into your artistic, uh, wheelhouse. And, um,
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  Speaker 3: I think, I think that that, that is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes you gotta look for things to hold on to,
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  Speaker 3: but sometimes when it's really, really bad, the best thing
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  Speaker 3: to do is just to channel it into, uh, to
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  Speaker 3: a level of a theme of a song or, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the only, the only market now, right now, today, the
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  Speaker 3: only market that's even in the States, that's even like,
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  Speaker 3: like doing well is just, is just live music, like festivals.
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  Speaker 3: They're as big as ever right now. We just went
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  Speaker 3: to the Vans Warped Tour last week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen that actually on their run of festivals
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  Speaker 4: they have.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, Vans Warped Tour, they're still doing that.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't been in 20 years, but I swear there
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  Speaker 3: was 120,000 people there when Papa Roach went on on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cool.
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  Speaker 3: That was wild, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Vans Warped Tour never used to be that massive.
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  Speaker 3: Like, holy cow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah no it is it's that's encouraging to hear you
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  Speaker 4: know because there's that there's definitely like you said the
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  Speaker 4: two schools of thought like you know there's people they've
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  Speaker 4: been touring and then they're cancelling and and the whole
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  Speaker 4: new festival controversy you know here in australia especially there's
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  Speaker 4: you know been festivals after so many cancelled and like
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  Speaker 4: non-existent and then the debacle happened with blues fest just
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  Speaker 4: recently was just a shit storm but i think a
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  Speaker 4: few of us especially locals we've seen that coming and
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  Speaker 4: knew what it was like that um you know it's
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  Speaker 4: the yeah to know that that's still happening and like
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  Speaker 4: a this live music in general, I find it definitely it's,
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  Speaker 4: it's healthy. Like I'm double, triple booked most weeks, you know,
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  Speaker 4: trying to cover gigs and knowing that it's still happening
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  Speaker 4: is just so encouraging. We've got a couple of huge,
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  Speaker 4: big ones coming up or big sound in Brisbane, which
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  Speaker 4: is a week long of, you know, fresh artists as well,
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  Speaker 4: just being promoted through the city, which is really cool.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's, um, Yeah, it's good to say it's what we need.
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  Speaker 3: In the music industry, you have a couple of moving
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  Speaker 3: submarines that have caused it, I think.
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  Speaker 1: One of them is artists streaming.
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  Speaker 3: They've sucked the living life out of all revenue that
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  Speaker 3: can be made from music now, like streaming. So big bands,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of forced them to get out and tour again,
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  Speaker 3: you know? And what they're asking these festivals, like these
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  Speaker 3: big bands, is outrageous. These guys are getting paid several
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  Speaker 3: million US dollars. It's because there's just nothing really in
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  Speaker 3: streaming left, and so it's kind of moved the market into...
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  Speaker 3: I guess it's kind of a silver lining in a
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  Speaker 3: very strange industry right now.
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  Speaker 4: Even earlier in the year, we had Helmet come out,
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  Speaker 4: and they played in the back room of the Great
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: Northern at Byron Bay, and that was... It's not a
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: large venue, and it was fucking feral, but in the
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  Speaker 4: right way.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was like a hamburger restaurant, that place
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  Speaker 3: in Byron.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's like one of the old standing pubs in
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  Speaker 4: their back room. It's epic on old school.
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  Speaker 1: What's that hardcore band out of Byron Bay? Parkway Drive.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Parkway Drive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just saw them, man. Dude, I really like Parkway.
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  Speaker 1: I really like those guys.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: That Warped tour we went to last week was really
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: fascinating on that same point because you have some of
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: the biggest bands in the world on the bill.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: And with technology, a lot of the guitarists are going
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: direct into the PA now. So they just have like
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: one small cab on each side, one small cab on,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: and it's.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Just small cab, small cab, and the biggest bands in
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: the world.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: And, and, and, and it's just like life changing their performance.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: It's just, and then you go to like Coachella, which is.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Like the obvious, one of the big festivals out here.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: And, and you have some big EDM artists and there's, there's,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: they have to, They have to dangle crazy light display.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: To keep people there. It's because it's just not the same.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: It's not the same.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Seeing that level of minimalism with the biggest bands in
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: the world last week was really, really special because it
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: really just shows the statement that you can't replace live
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: music with a DJ. You cannot do it.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Unless you have crazy light shows or crazy visuals.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: I've never understood, like, the whole thing about crowding around
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: like a fucking DJ on stage.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: It's just weird, you know.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Like, on a laptop, like, pressing buttons. I remember, you know,
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: laughing at people, like, the first time they'd ever seen
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Fatboy Slim thinking it's a man.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: It's like, no, it's literally one dude, bro. It's like,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: great artist, legend.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: You have this level of sound quality with EDM right now,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: which I think that's why the.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Vibe is so hot. The level of sub you can
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: put into an.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Electronic mix is just so body rumbling.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: That's what I was about to say, like, when I,
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: the first, um, like, full death metal, like, concerts I
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: went to, like, I was like, mm, death metal on
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: a school night, I've got a.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Cover, okay.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: It was, um, I Killed the Prom, Who Killed the
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Prom Queen was when.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: They played it.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, nice. Great band.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: And I've, like, walked in and I'm like, holy shit, like,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I get why people like this now.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Metal, metal live is probably my favorite genre without a doubt.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: It's fucking cool.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: The energy behind it is, is, is just, like, insane.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: It's insane.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: And what's so funny about the younger kids, the Gen
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Z kids, they feel it too.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: They are constantly asking me, like, what was it like
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: to see the Red Hot Chili Peppers?
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Or what was it like to see Metallica? And I'm like, dude,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: you don't fucking know. You don't fucking know how fucking
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: rad it was, dude.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Seeing Metallica at the Coliseum in LA and 100,000 people,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: it was epic.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: How do you describe that?
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: It's like trying to tell them, describe to them the
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: color The color red to a blind person, you know?
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: True.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I remember taking my youngest one, she was 17 then,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: to Foo Fighters when they come out in 23.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, right. And it was like, nah, babe. And she, like,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: she was shitty. She's like... The minute.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: She stepped into that fucking stadium, she just lit up
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: and she... so loved it yeah good mother you are
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: yeah i try you know sometimes they might disagree but
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: yeah no that was and i'm very much looking forward
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: obviously seeing them again because they're coming out again at
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: the end of the year so yeah but um but
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: again i think it was i think it was a
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: few fun is they recorded a whole album in like
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: dave's garage like plugged in analog i think it was
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: just because the sound was just they wanted that full
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: grungy grit sound which is yeah I mean.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: The Nirvana drum tone from Dave Grohl on the drums
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: in Nirvana, it is about as analog. I mean, that's
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: the word. You can like to feel the tape on it, honestly.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: The dynamic of the kick and snare is, there's some
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: warmth to it. That's for sure analog, you know?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: So with you, you guys sound like, you know, how
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: would you describe, you know, where you're what you might
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: sound like according to you guys, you know, everyone's got
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: a different opinion, but.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, so, so we, um, in 2000 and, uh, 2012,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: we get into a proper interview with metal blade records.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Nice layer iron maiden.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And, and they, they were like, you know, you
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: guys are, you guys are pretty awesome, but like, you're
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: not really like metal enough.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: And, uh, like, fuck, like, why can't you just like
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: change your label then, man?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: But, uh, And then, so we go, we go and
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: meet with epitaph like that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: It was like probably the same month.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: We had, we had a pretty go with some good,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: some good looks at some big labels early on.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: And, uh, they look at us and they say, Hey, you,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: can you guys just like fucking pick a genre, please? Like, like,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: like some of this shit's metal, some of this shit's punk. And,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: and so, so we cut some albums going green actually
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: was the, the full length. I actually, I need to
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: apologize to myself and my band for, for getting about
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: that album talking about it earlier, but, but, uh, That
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: was the album that we just said, we're going to
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: write a metal album. And most of the album, except
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: one song, is just pretty linear metal. Yeah. And a
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: lot of our Dired fans, very long songs dragged on.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: We kind of went Tool vibes on a.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Lot of random shit.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Like long interludes. And there's some good shit on there. Ironically,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: this is interesting.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: When we first got the master in 2012 of that album,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I was actually in Byron Bay. Oh, wow.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I remember playing it in a rental car.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: A juicy van or something.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the way the Australians pronounce Mazda.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Mazda.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Mazda.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: My favorite thing in the world. You guys pronounce it Nissan.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: And it's like it's a Nissan, right? Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: We had a Mazda rental car. We're blaring our album.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, that sounds kind of cool.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: You know what they say though, like to listen to
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: your shit in a car, like in a car stereo
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: is one of the best things to do because it's
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: like such a closed in space. Like I've got friends
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: who are producers and, They're like, no, put it on
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: in your fucking car and listen.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, I get that.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: It has to pass the citizen test.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't matter how that fucking thing sounds in
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: the studio.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't matter. It needs to sound amazing in
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the car.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: So we got a lot of flack for being so
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: cross-genre punk.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: So we went back to our roots a little bit
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: after that album.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nice.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: With the FDR era, which is when we did our
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: most touring at the time. Went out of the cage,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: more punk rock, but metal when we felt like it,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: you know?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because we can. There was some sick break.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Make Your Fade is probably one of our
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: heaviest songs.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: It's actually one of our most punk rock albums.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: And then we kind of just exactly said, after Metal
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Blade told us to fuck off, that was the only
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: record label that mattered. at the time and when they
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: told us to kick rocks right fuck it we're just
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: going to record whatever the hell we want and yeah
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: so we we just kind of went we we did
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: we did take some advice though we did shorten our
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: songs a little bit we stopped like yeah dragging on
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: our shit a little bit simplified a little bit and
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: and uh so so very uh but that question's always
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: been a funny one but but if you're going to
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: talk about our our sound you're going to probably say
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: something like you know pennywise style punk rock riffs like
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: rise against in some metallic thrash you know yeah but
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: um but uh and it's funny because if you're gonna
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna look at my growing up let's see
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: i'm gonna ask you this in a second so you
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: better be.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Ready but uh let's go with let's go with top.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Five top five uh bands uh man you listen to
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: how wide this is yeah without a doubt without a
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: doubt afi Yeah.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with AFI, Offspring. Yeah. I'm going
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to go with Lamb of God.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I love Lamb of God.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Kill, Switch, Engage.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Man. Shit. And then I'm going to go back.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to come back to something like Bad Religion or.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Something punk, you know?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: That was cool.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I guess as a whole, our genre, just inspiration.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, Iron Maiden's also one of our favorites. Yeah.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: What about you? What are your five favorite bands?
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Five favorite?
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, I've got so many, but I'm the same. Like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: my genres are so wide, but I mean, I love
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: the Foo Fighters. Like, they're just epic.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And I really, really love a couple of Aussie bands.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: So Spiderbait and Grinspoon.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Regurgitator. They're probably all like the same like level. Cause
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: they're metal.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: And they're punk and pop. I mean, I love hip hop,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: like Hilltop Hoods definitely. So like there's.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Like completely like left of field.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: So, and then again, like Bliss and Esso as well, like.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: The Aussie hip hop.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Like, so, and then, you know, I also really dig
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: shit like, you know, The Cure and stuff like that too.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: So it's, um, yeah. that's my my wide my wide
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: range and.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Oh that is that is like that's and we can't we.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Can't forget courtney you know courtney love.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Halt like oh yeah yeah so like that that's that's
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: my cool but i mean oh you know for me
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: to perform though like sing like i i perform shit
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: like you know rage against machine and like drowning pool.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: You know we played with drowning pool.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah sick 2014 or so Yeah.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: And like my couple of tracks I've got like that,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: it's like hard, like new metal, like it's hard and
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: fast and it is.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Limp Bizkit.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: They're good. They're great. Limp Bizkit, they're cool. Cool as fuck.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's, Yeah, I do. I just have such
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: a wide range. And, yeah, it's not so much the
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: pop punk, you know, the stuff. I mean, some of
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: it I don't mind. But, you know, I also love
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Electric Cowboy too. Like, they're funny as shit.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude. Electric Cowboy is so awesome, man. I think, right?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I love it. It just cracks me up.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: That gym video that they have, that music video, is
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: like one of the coolest. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Where it all starts. When we say three chords and
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: a line. That's what it all is.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, look, thank you so much for coming and
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: having a chat with us today, Heavy. And hopefully, is
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: it planned to have a tour at all? We'd love
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: to see you back down under again.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's in the works.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: We're actually working out some kinks with the release, but
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I think it's long overdue. We released a single two
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: to three years ago, but other than that, we haven't
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: released even an EP or an album in probably five years.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: It's pretty long overdue.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty long overdue.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: And I think without a doubt, we will be getting
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: back on the road and jamming pretty hard here.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Get on down. Get on down to Soundtown.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I appreciate the chat.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, likewise.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: It's always great to get in. To get like-minded minds
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: in the journey. Yeah.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: You find your people. It's like a little beacon. It's like,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: who do they know? For sure. Well, look, thank you
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: so much.