Latest / Presented by Speaking Human / With Further Ado Episode #20: Trial by Hot Dog in the Provisional Parking Lot
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Tell me if this sounds familiar.
- 0:01Speaker 2: You're listening to a podcast, attending a presentation, or watching
- 0:07Speaker 2: a live stream, and after a whole bunch of chatter,
- 0:10Speaker 2: the hosts finally get around to the reason for the
- 0:13Speaker 2: whole shebang, saying, without further ado, it happens all the time,
- 0:20Speaker 2: at almost every event, going back to the beginning of
- 0:23Speaker 2: recorded history. But what happens if the hosts never actually
- 0:28Speaker 2: get to the main attractions, What if the whole thing
- 0:31Speaker 2: were just the ado? This is that show.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Patrick.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Welcome.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Welcome.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Great to see you.
- 0:55Speaker 4: It's great to see you, Chad.
- 0:56Speaker 1: It's been so long.
- 0:58Speaker 4: It's been a while.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Did you know? Do you need to get out your... Stained?
- 1:02Speaker 2: Stained?
- 1:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Okay, I thought that was stained.
- 1:05Speaker 4: It's a great song. I hadn't heard that song in
- 1:07Speaker 4: a long time, and then it just came on the
- 1:09Speaker 4: radio the other day. It's been a while.
- 1:11Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've heard this.
- 1:14Speaker 4: So, you were getting to a trivia question, it sounded like.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Perhaps.
- 1:18Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Perhaps. Could just be a statement. I'll start with a
- 1:22Speaker 1: did you know, and I'll move into a trivia question.
- 1:24Speaker 1: How about that?
- 1:24Speaker 4: All right.
- 1:26Speaker 1: So, a hundred years ago, on this very day... Not
- 1:30Speaker 1: the day that people are listening to it, but the
- 1:32Speaker 1: day that, for me and you, this very day, for
- 1:35Speaker 1: us here, a century ago, President Theodore Roosevelt proclaimed Devil's Tower, which,
- 1:43Speaker 1: if you don't know, it's this big rock formation in Wyoming,
- 1:47Speaker 1: the country's first national monument.
- 1:50Speaker 4: This is the one from Close Encounters of the Third Kind?
- 1:53Speaker 1: This is.
- 1:54Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Exactly it, which was going to be... One of my
- 1:58Speaker 1: trivia questions was going to be, which movie is this
- 2:01Speaker 1: prominently featured in? Clearly, you know that.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:04Speaker 4: So do I win?
- 2:05Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I bet you don't know, though,
- 2:09Speaker 1: why it's called Devil's Tower.
- 2:11Speaker 4: I thought it was because the devil lives in it.
- 2:14Speaker 1: The devil doesn't live in it. He's just using it.
- 2:17Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's his tower. It's kind of like
- 2:20Speaker 4: the Eye of Sauron from.
- 2:22Speaker 1: It's like his workplace.
- 2:25Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:25Speaker 1: He has a nice house.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:27Speaker 4: I mean, everybody knows that it's because it doesn't have
- 2:31Speaker 4: windows and the devil doesn't have windows in his place,
- 2:34Speaker 4: you know, where he works. Very dark inside the tower.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Do you think that you don't think he wants to
- 2:41Speaker 1: see like a hot Wyoming afternoon?
- 2:44Speaker 4: I don't think so.
- 2:46Speaker 1: So I thought I was like, Devil's Tower, pretty interesting name.
- 2:49Speaker 1: It's got to have some, you know, sort of really
- 2:53Speaker 1: interesting origin story. No, not really. No, not really. They
- 2:58Speaker 1: say it's probably coming from a bad translation from this guy.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Colonel Richard Irving Dodge, you know, did an exposition. Sorry,
- 3:09Speaker 1: an exposition expedition. And he said the Indians called it
- 3:15Speaker 1: bad God's tower. But there's no real evidence other than
- 3:18Speaker 1: him saying that, that that's true. On most of the maps,
- 3:21Speaker 1: it was just called Bear Lodge. So even after he
- 3:25Speaker 1: started calling it Devil's Tower and said people called it that,
- 3:28Speaker 1: they were still had referred to it as Bear Lodge.
- 3:31Speaker 1: So it seems kind of bogus, but it's just kind
- 3:33Speaker 1: of one of those things that just kind of stuck.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:35Speaker 1: You know how somebody gets like a nickname and they're like, yeah,
- 3:39Speaker 1: you're tiny now.
- 3:40Speaker 4: Well, I'm not tiny.
- 3:42Speaker 1: You are.
- 3:42Speaker 4: I don't like that nickname. Doesn't suit me. But you're
- 3:47Speaker 4: still going to call me that, right?
- 3:49Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
- 3:50Speaker 1: It's stuck now and nobody can explain why.
- 3:53Speaker 4: I like the fact that I knew that it was
- 3:56Speaker 4: in Close Encounters of the Third Kind without you ever
- 3:58Speaker 4: even saying anything about it. I know.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I was impressed. You just kind of were like immediately
- 4:03Speaker 1: Devil's Tower Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:06Speaker 4: With Dustin Hoffman? No. Dennis Hopper?
- 4:09Speaker 2: No.
- 4:09Speaker 4: God, man, I can't think of his name.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Can't get there, though.
- 4:12Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't get there. From Jaws. What's his name?
- 4:15Speaker 1: Do you want me to tell you? Or are you
- 4:17Speaker 1: going to pull it out?
- 4:19Speaker 4: It starts with a D.
- 4:20Speaker 1: It does not. His last name starts with a D.
- 4:23Speaker 4: His last name starts with a D. That's why I'm
- 4:24Speaker 4: getting it messed up. And it's eluding me. So you
- 4:27Speaker 4: go ahead and give it to me. Yeah.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Richard Dreyfuss.
- 4:31Speaker 4: Dreyfuss.
- 4:32Speaker 1: You're right there. You're circling it.
- 4:35Speaker 4: Richard. That's a great movie. Have you watched that lately?
- 4:39Speaker 1: I did. I watched it over the summer, actually. I
- 4:42Speaker 1: got it on 4K and I hadn't seen it in
- 4:44Speaker 1: a really long time. And it was like, it's funny how,
- 4:47Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things where I super
- 4:49Speaker 1: remembered parts of it from when I was a little kid.
- 4:51Speaker 1: And then there were other parts of it that I
- 4:54Speaker 1: was like, I don't remember this at all. There's also
- 4:56Speaker 1: like three different versions of it.
- 4:58Speaker 4: There is?
- 4:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:59Speaker 1: There's like the original theater version. There's like two other
- 5:04Speaker 1: director's cuts. There's another director's cut that was released in
- 5:07Speaker 1: theater where they show more of the aliens on the
- 5:11Speaker 1: spaceship and stuff.
- 5:12Speaker 4: Really?
- 5:13Speaker 1: Over the years, I don't even know which versions I
- 5:16Speaker 1: had seen.
- 5:18Speaker 4: Those are all on the 4K, though?
- 5:20Speaker 1: Yeah, you get all three versions, which is kind of cool. Nice.
- 5:24Speaker 1: I haven't watched all three of them. Not yet.
- 5:26Speaker 4: Which one did you watch? The theater one?
- 5:28Speaker 1: I either watched the original theatrical or the director's cut
- 5:34Speaker 1: that Spielberg did later that he says like the official
- 5:37Speaker 1: one so they did one that they re-released in theaters
- 5:40Speaker 1: like a few years after it came out and supposedly
- 5:43Speaker 1: the studio was like we want to show more with
- 5:46Speaker 1: the spaceship inside the spaceship with the aliens which they
- 5:49Speaker 1: don't show in the original like Richard Dreyfuss spoiler alert
- 5:53Speaker 1: it's on the spaceship and it's kind of like the
- 5:54Speaker 1: end of the movie yeah so they came they added
- 5:57Speaker 1: these like new scenes they went and filmed new scenes
- 6:00Speaker 1: and added them and A few years later, where it's
- 6:03Speaker 1: like showing inside the spaceship and stuff. And Spielberg has
- 6:06Speaker 1: since been like, I shouldn't have done that. I don't
- 6:10Speaker 1: really like that version. You know, that's not the official version,
- 6:13Speaker 1: but it's interesting it exists. And some people like it.
- 6:17Speaker 4: You know, that's always such a crazy thing when they
- 6:20Speaker 4: make something that's an alternate version. And then so much
- 6:24Speaker 4: time has passed where you don't even remember. You don't
- 6:27Speaker 4: even know which version you saw originally.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 6:31Speaker 4: I don't even know. Now that you're describing that, I'm like,
- 6:34Speaker 4: which version did I see?
- 6:35Speaker 1: It's interesting when directors keep tinkering or studios keep changing.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Usually I don't like the director. Usually I'm kind of
- 6:42Speaker 1: like an original. What was released in theaters, that's kind
- 6:45Speaker 1: of the movie, but every once in a while there's
- 6:47Speaker 1: one that you're like, oh, that's actually kind of better
- 6:50Speaker 1: with more stuff in it.
- 6:52Speaker 4: Yeah. So Devil's Tower, that's probably not even the whole
- 6:57Speaker 4: story that you wanted to tell, but I.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Like No, I think I got as much of Devil's
- 7:03Speaker 1: Tower as I wanted to. You know, really, it's all
- 7:06Speaker 1: about Richard Dreyfuss.
- 7:09Speaker 4: Is it all about Richard Dreyfuss? He was great in
- 7:11Speaker 4: that movie.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:12Speaker 1: He had some good parts at that time, you know?
- 7:15Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know what I saw recently that he's in,
- 7:18Speaker 4: but he's in something new. And I was surprised to
- 7:22Speaker 4: see his name in his face. And I was like,
- 7:24Speaker 4: Richard Dreyfuss? I haven't heard from him in forever. He
- 7:27Speaker 4: never calls me anymore.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Was it the new John Wick movie?
- 7:35Speaker 4: John!
- 7:36Speaker 1: Wikipedia!
- 7:38Speaker 4: Trivia! So, this is a great segment. We are revisiting
- 7:47Speaker 4: it because we've been here before. Yeah.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Is this the third time?
- 7:52Speaker 4: I think so. You know, I lose count. We have
- 7:56Speaker 4: so many podcasts. We have so many episodes out there.
- 8:00Speaker 1: So many segments.
- 8:02Speaker 4: So many segments. But this is trivia centered around characters
- 8:05Speaker 4: with the first name John, not necessarily connected to Keanu Reeves,
- 8:10Speaker 4: who has played many Johns, including John Wick, Johnny Utah.
- 8:16Speaker 4: They can be trivia around those characters, but they don't
- 8:19Speaker 4: have to be. They just have to be related to
- 8:22Speaker 4: first name John.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Johns. All right. Well, you want to go first? You
- 8:26Speaker 1: want me to go first?
- 8:27Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:27Speaker 4: Why don't you go first this time?
- 8:29Speaker 1: Okay.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:30Speaker 1: We got two, so we can alternate here. So we
- 8:33Speaker 1: were just talking about Steven Spielberg a little bit. What
- 8:37Speaker 1: about another Steven? Not to throw another name in the
- 8:41Speaker 1: mix here, but Stephen King. We got a movie in
- 8:46Speaker 1: 1999 based on one of his books with a character
- 8:50Speaker 1: named John Coffey.
- 8:52Speaker 4: Hmm.
- 8:52Speaker 1: 1999, do you know what movie that was?
- 8:56Speaker 4: God, I know this movie, John Coffey. Oh, man.
- 9:05Speaker 1: 1999, John Coffey. Movie based on a Stephen King book.
- 9:10Speaker 4: I know this, but I am drawing a complete blank
- 9:13Speaker 4: tonight on names.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Do you want a hint?
- 9:16Speaker 4: Yeah, give me a hint if you got a hint.
- 9:19Speaker 1: All right. I'll give you a hint. Tom Hanks is
- 9:21Speaker 1: in this movie, but he does not play John Coffey.
- 9:24Speaker 1: It's a 1999 movie based on a Stephen King book.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Tom Hanks is in it. It has a character named
- 9:31Speaker 1: John Coffey.
- 9:32Speaker 4: Like there's so much in my soul, right? I know
- 9:35Speaker 4: this movie. I do know this movie.
- 9:38Speaker 1: I think you do. Yeah.
- 9:39Speaker 4: Yeah, just hit me with it. What is it?
- 9:41Speaker 2: All right.
- 9:41Speaker 1: The answer is The Green Mile.
- 9:43Speaker 4: The Green Mile. Son of a gun. Tom Hanks is
- 9:48Speaker 4: the prison guard.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Yeah. And John Coffey was.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Not the guy I always think is.
- 9:55Speaker 4: He's from the whole nine yards.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Yeah. He was Michael Clark Dunbar. Sometimes I get them
- 10:02Speaker 1: confused with the guy from Mission Impossible, Ving Rhames.
- 10:05Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 10:06Speaker 4: They do kind of have like a similar look to them.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Another kind of giant bald guy, you know.
- 10:13Speaker 4: They were big dudes.
- 10:14Speaker 1: I think Michael Clark Duncan was bigger, like taller.
- 10:17Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. He was gigantic.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Yeah, died in 2012. Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that.
- 10:24Speaker 4: I liked him. I thought he always played good characters.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Yeah, he was good. He was in Armageddon, too.
- 10:28Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. They're drilling on an asteroid. Him and Bruce Willis,
- 10:34Speaker 4: Ben Affleck. Anyway, yeah, that's a good one.
- 10:38Speaker 1: John Coffey.
- 10:39Speaker 4: Of course, that's the Stephen King one. I don't know
- 10:41Speaker 4: why I couldn't put all that together.
- 10:43Speaker 3: It's tricky.
- 10:44Speaker 1: It's tricky.
- 10:45Speaker 4: All right, so here's a good one. Okay. Comic book
- 10:49Speaker 4: occult detective John Constantine, who we do know was played
- 10:55Speaker 4: by Keanu Reeves.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:56Speaker 4: His appearance was originally modeled on which musician? I'm going
- 11:01Speaker 4: to give you multiple choice.
- 11:03Speaker 1: Okay, good.
- 11:04Speaker 4: Was it A, David Bowie, B, Billy Idol, C, Elvis Costello,
- 11:11Speaker 4: or D, Sting?
- 11:13Speaker 1: I'm going to say I think it's David Bowie.
- 11:18Speaker 4: It was a very, very good guess, but it's incorrect.
- 11:22Speaker 4: It was actually modeled on Sting.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Sting?
- 11:25Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Not what I would have guessed, because he doesn't look
- 11:29Speaker 1: like Sting in the movie. No. Maybe he looks like
- 11:32Speaker 1: Sting in a certain period, or is this more just
- 11:34Speaker 1: the comic book character looks?
- 11:37Speaker 4: Well, the artists Stephen R. Bessette and John Tottlebin, they
- 11:42Speaker 4: wanted a character who looked like Sting. I don't know
- 11:46Speaker 4: if they got that with Keanu Reeves and Constantine, but no,
- 11:50Speaker 4: because if you are, if you ever look at like
- 11:52Speaker 4: other versions of John Constantine, like in the show, I
- 11:55Speaker 4: think in supernatural maybe, or there's some other versions of him.
- 12:00Speaker 4: He's got blonde hair. He does kind of look a
- 12:02Speaker 4: little bit like sting in some ways.
- 12:05Speaker 1: So, okay.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:06Speaker 1: The comic book. Yeah. I'm looking at like some Constantine.
- 12:09Speaker 1: I see the sting. Keanu Reeves, nothing, nothing like that.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:14Speaker 4: He didn't want to dye his hair. They were like,
- 12:16Speaker 4: you're not going to look great as a blonde, as
- 12:18Speaker 4: a platinum blonde.
- 12:20Speaker 1: You're not Sting. You're never going to be Sting.
- 12:22Speaker 4: Yeah. Every breath you take. All right.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Couldn't hit it even with multiple choice. So 0 for
- 12:30Speaker 1: 2 collectively so far. Keeping it dark. Yeah. I'm going
- 12:33Speaker 1: to stick with something dark here. But your boy, Patrick,
- 12:38Speaker 1: Christopher Walken, only played one character named John. He played
- 12:43Speaker 1: Johnny Smith. In this 1983 movie, what is the movie?
- 12:49Speaker 4: The Dead Zone.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Oh, you got it. How'd you know?
- 12:53Speaker 4: I love that movie. Also Stephen King, is it not?
- 12:59Speaker 1: Also Stephen King. That was the connection. That was going
- 13:02Speaker 1: to be my hint. I'm just incredibly impressed.
- 13:06Speaker 4: I love that movie. I also loved the television series,
- 13:10Speaker 4: The Dead Zone with.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Anthony Michael Hall.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:14Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah, that's I love that. I actually love
- 13:19Speaker 4: that story. I think that's like one of my favorite
- 13:21Speaker 4: of Stephen King.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Do you like that Saturday Night Live skit where it's
- 13:25Speaker 1: like walk in and he can see people's future? He
- 13:29Speaker 1: like touches their hands and.
- 13:31Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 13:32Speaker 4: What is that one? I do kind of remember that.
- 13:35Speaker 1: It was like the psychic something.
- 13:38Speaker 4: Yeah, I do remember that.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Trivial psychic. That's what it was. He would. Like shake
- 13:44Speaker 1: somebody's hands and be like, your keys. You're going to
- 13:47Speaker 1: leave them on the table.
- 13:49Speaker 3: You know?
- 13:49Speaker 1: And he'd be like, so what?
- 13:55Speaker 4: That's pretty good. I do like that. All right. In
- 13:59Speaker 4: Demolition Man, John Spartan, played by Sylvester Stallone, as we
- 14:04Speaker 4: all know.
- 14:05Speaker 1: Of course.
- 14:06Speaker 4: Emerges from a cryogenic prison with which unexpected skill implanted
- 14:12Speaker 4: through rehabilitation? That's what they called it, like they implanted
- 14:16Speaker 4: skills in the prisoners. Do you remember that?
- 14:19Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 14:20Speaker 4: Was it A, knitting, B, cake decorating, C, piano tuning,
- 14:28Speaker 4: or D, flower arranging?
- 14:31Speaker 1: I thought it was knitting, but now I'm like, was
- 14:32Speaker 1: it flower arranging? I'm pretty sure it's knitting. So I'm
- 14:35Speaker 1: going to go with A, knitting.
- 14:37Speaker 4: It was A, knitting. His rehabilitation gives him a considerably
- 14:42Speaker 4: gentler skill than apprehending violent criminals. That was sort of
- 14:47Speaker 4: the idea.
- 14:47Speaker 1: They didn't, though. They gave him the knitting skill. They
- 14:52Speaker 1: did not implant him with the skill to use the
- 14:55Speaker 1: seashells in the bathroom.
- 14:57Speaker 4: Yeah, which everyone should have that skill.
- 15:00Speaker 1: You would think that would be automatic. You get that one.
- 15:02Speaker 4: Yeah. That's a great movie if you haven't seen it.
- 15:05Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That's a good one. Demolition Man.
- 15:08Speaker 4: John Spartan. So many good Johns.
- 15:12Speaker 1: That's why this segment can go on forever, because there's
- 15:15Speaker 1: endless Johns out there.
- 15:17Speaker 4: You know what's really funny is in one of my choices,
- 15:21Speaker 4: one of my backup choices, I had something that was
- 15:24Speaker 4: related to the Green Mile, and I did not make
- 15:27Speaker 4: the connection.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Oh, really?
- 15:30Speaker 4: Sadly.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Well- There's always the risk, too. You're going to research
- 15:35Speaker 1: your Johns and you're going to, you know, come across
- 15:38Speaker 1: the answer to somebody else's John question.
- 15:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:41Speaker 1: But again, there's so many Johns. I had to actually
- 15:44Speaker 1: listen to our last one to be like, what did
- 15:47Speaker 1: we talk about last? I didn't want to like.
- 15:50Speaker 4: It's tough because there's going to probably be a lot
- 15:53Speaker 4: of those, especially when you're talking about celebrities. We might
- 15:56Speaker 4: get into a little bit of a kerfuffle.
- 15:59Speaker 3: Kurt Russell.
- 16:10Speaker 4: We really do have a good celebrity matchup today. The segments.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Yeah. John Wick and now Kurt Russell. It's a lot
- 16:19Speaker 1: of action. We got John Wick. You know, you think
- 16:22Speaker 1: of him beating the hell out of people and now
- 16:24Speaker 1: we're Kurt Fuffling with Kurt Russell.
- 16:26Speaker 4: Yeah. I love the word Kurt Fuffle.
- 16:28Speaker 1: These are guys you don't want to mess with. So
- 16:31Speaker 1: this segment, what happens here is we each choose a
- 16:35Speaker 1: role another actor had that Kurt Russell could effectively steal.
- 16:40Speaker 1: But here's the twist. Kurt Russell takes their role. Kurt
- 16:45Speaker 1: Russell then has to give that actor one of his roles.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Which role is he giving up? And then which actor
- 16:52Speaker 1: comes out on top? You know, who gets more juice
- 16:55Speaker 1: from the new part?
- 16:56Speaker 4: Hmm.
- 16:57Speaker 1: These are all things we have to determine here.
- 16:58Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 16:59Speaker 1: So what do you got? What's your kerfuffle? All right.
- 17:02Speaker 4: So mine is Kurt Russell is going to steal the
- 17:06Speaker 4: dude in The Big Lebowski.
- 17:09Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Yeah, that's interesting.
- 17:12Speaker 4: He's going to steal that from Jeff Bridges. Then Jeff Bridges,
- 17:16Speaker 4: in exchange, is going to steal the role of Captain
- 17:19Speaker 4: Ron from Kurt Russell. Here's the thing. Kurt Russell works
- 17:24Speaker 4: as the dude, I think. So he's going to take
- 17:26Speaker 4: that Jack Burton absolute confidence, Jack Burton from, as we
- 17:31Speaker 4: all know, Big Trouble in Little China.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Of course.
- 17:35Speaker 4: But he's going to basically remove his ambition and put
- 17:38Speaker 4: it in, he's going to be in a bathrobe, essentially.
- 17:41Speaker 4: So I think Kurt Russell could make the dude a
- 17:44Speaker 4: little more irritable, but he's able to handle the situation.
- 17:49Speaker 4: But he's also resenting everybody while he's doing it. And
- 17:52Speaker 4: then Bridges, I think, works as Captain Ron because I
- 17:55Speaker 4: think here's the crazy part is I think he would
- 17:58Speaker 4: sell nautical wisdom almost better than Kurt Russell does. Because,
- 18:04Speaker 4: you know, in Captain Ron, he feels like an imposter
- 18:08Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. I think Jeff Bridges as
- 18:11Speaker 4: Captain Ron is going to be more believable almost.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 18:14Speaker 4: So I don't know. Kurt Russell as the dude is,
- 18:18Speaker 4: I think there's some juice there.
- 18:20Speaker 1: That's a pretty interesting one, because you're taking from Jeff
- 18:23Speaker 1: Bridges his maybe most iconic role.
- 18:26Speaker 4: Right.
- 18:27Speaker 1: It is hard to picture somebody else in it, but
- 18:30Speaker 1: Kurt Russell, I think, could do it. I have a
- 18:32Speaker 1: harder time picturing him in the more clueless parts. His annoyance,
- 18:38Speaker 1: and I could see him being shaggy and just kind
- 18:41Speaker 1: of hanging around in a bathrobe. I could see Kurt
- 18:45Speaker 1: Russell doing some of that stuff. I'd like to see
- 18:47Speaker 1: him do something like that. You know, I think it'd
- 18:49Speaker 1: be kind of fun, but I'm like, you know, could
- 18:52Speaker 1: he stone it up enough where he's just kind of,
- 18:55Speaker 1: you know, clueless Kurt Russell. Have we seen that? I
- 18:58Speaker 1: don't know. You're right. Probably big trouble in little China's
- 19:00Speaker 1: like the closest, or maybe even a captain Ron.
- 19:03Speaker 4: I would pay to see that. If we could see
- 19:05Speaker 4: that alternate version, kind of like the, uh, close encounters
- 19:09Speaker 4: of the third guy. Not really the same thing clearly,
- 19:12Speaker 4: but it's.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Like a totally different movie.
- 19:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:15Speaker 4: There's something that would be really rewarding about knowing, could
- 19:19Speaker 4: that work?
- 19:20Speaker 1: Yeah, just seeing how it plays out. I do think
- 19:24Speaker 1: Jeff Bridges could play Captain Ron basically doing the same
- 19:29Speaker 1: thing he does in The Big Lebowski.
- 19:31Speaker 4: He could.
- 19:32Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He doesn't have to change
- 19:34Speaker 1: a whole lot. He could kind of just play it
- 19:36Speaker 1: the same way. Captain Ron, as played by Russell, is
- 19:38Speaker 1: a little more of a rascal. Yeah.
- 19:41Speaker 4: And you know, the funny thing is, is like, Bridges
- 19:43Speaker 4: could play Captain Ron then and now.
- 19:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:47Speaker 4: Even maybe more so now. He's almost like the Pirates
- 19:49Speaker 4: of the Galaxy. the Caribbean version, you know, like a
- 19:53Speaker 4: big beard. Yeah.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Interesting. Last time we did this, I had Kurt Russell
- 19:58Speaker 1: flip with Harrison Ford and Harrison Ford was taking Captain Ron.
- 20:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:04Speaker 4: Yeah, I do remember that now. Maybe a little bit
- 20:06Speaker 4: of a cheat using Captain Ron again, but.
- 20:08Speaker 1: No, I think you could use it as many times.
- 20:10Speaker 1: You know, a different person's taking it, so it's interesting
- 20:13Speaker 1: to look at.
- 20:14Speaker 4: Jeff Bridges, though. Good swap, I think, in that case.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:18Speaker 1: The two are definitely, you know, comparable in a lot
- 20:20Speaker 1: of ways.
- 20:21Speaker 4: Who do you think works better? You think it's Kurt, then?
- 20:23Speaker 4: Or do you think it's... I think.
- 20:25Speaker 1: I actually think Bridges might win that one. I think
- 20:28Speaker 1: he might fit better. You know what I mean?
- 20:31Speaker 2: Yeah. Though.
- 20:33Speaker 1: Kurt's getting probably a better part in a better movie.
- 20:36Speaker 1: Bridges might just, it might just be easier for him
- 20:39Speaker 1: to be Captain Ron. Yeah.
- 20:41Speaker 4: What's more entertaining though? Watching Kurt Russell be the dude, right?
- 20:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Yeah. That's more interesting is to try to see what
- 20:49Speaker 1: that's like.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Russell just has that little, it'll come into play with
- 20:53Speaker 1: my pick too, which is why I want to see it.
- 20:56Speaker 1: He just has that like little bit of like steeliness
- 20:58Speaker 1: and control. You know, a desire for control that I'm like,
- 21:02Speaker 1: can he like abandon that altogether? And did we ever
- 21:05Speaker 1: see that, you know? So a little bit along the
- 21:08Speaker 1: same lines or in a similar vein, I'll say. My
- 21:12Speaker 1: kerfuffle comes from the year 1994. So I have Russell
- 21:18Speaker 1: switching places with Jeff Daniels in Dumb and Dumber. So
- 21:23Speaker 1: this is what I mean. That's similar to the Bigelow Baskets.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Like Kurt Russell never got this like straight up. I'm
- 21:27Speaker 1: going like full broad comedy type thing. And it's like,
- 21:32Speaker 1: can he turn that off enough to do that? I
- 21:34Speaker 1: would like to see him get the shot. I think
- 21:36Speaker 1: it would be pretty funny to see, you know, shaggy haired.
- 21:40Speaker 1: Kurt Russell is hairy partnering up with Jim Carrey. You know,
- 21:43Speaker 1: the two are hitting the road for Aspen where the
- 21:46Speaker 1: beer flows like wine. Can he just go, you know,
- 21:49Speaker 1: I'm an idiot comedy thing. on the toilet with explosive diarrhea.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Can he pull that off? It would be something we
- 21:58Speaker 1: just never really got to see him do. And I
- 22:00Speaker 1: really liked seeing him do it, especially in his nineties
- 22:02Speaker 1: period when he was just playing a lot of tough guys,
- 22:04Speaker 1: you know, and that's basically the role he'd be swapping,
- 22:08Speaker 1: which is the movie Stargate.
- 22:10Speaker 4: Oh, Stargate.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Where he was buzz cut Colonel Jonathan Jack O'Neill.
- 22:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 22:16Speaker 1: In this movie, if you remember it, where it was
- 22:18Speaker 1: like a military team in a, scientists are using a
- 22:24Speaker 1: portal in Egypt to travel to a planet that's kind
- 22:27Speaker 1: of like Egypt.
- 22:29Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 22:29Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say about the plot
- 22:31Speaker 1: of that, but that was also a decent hit at
- 22:33Speaker 1: the time. Made, I checked it out, made like over
- 22:35Speaker 1: $ 70 million. So Daniel's getting something decent. It's taking away
- 22:40Speaker 1: one of his kind of like key roles, but he's,
- 22:43Speaker 1: you know, kind of getting to play more of a
- 22:45Speaker 1: hard ass. You know, he did speed a couple of
- 22:47Speaker 1: years before, so he's going kind of a different route.
- 22:50Speaker 1: We're giving him Russell a chance to like take Captain
- 22:54Speaker 1: Ron a little farther into the total goof comedy role.
- 22:58Speaker 4: Do you think he could pull it off? I, I
- 23:01Speaker 4: don't know. I, I feel like I don't see him
- 23:04Speaker 4: in that role. I don't know. He, maybe he could
- 23:08Speaker 4: do it. Something about Jeff Daniels works in that role
- 23:12Speaker 4: that I don't see Kurt Russell being able to do it.
- 23:17Speaker 4: I don't know why.
- 23:17Speaker 1: I think before that movie happened, uh, Nobody would say
- 23:22Speaker 1: Jeff Daniels would be the right fit for that.
- 23:25Speaker 4: That's true.
- 23:26Speaker 1: Here's what I question. I'm like, I don't know if
- 23:28Speaker 1: Kurt Russell and Jim Carrey would necessarily be the right pair,
- 23:32Speaker 1: but you kind of need Jim Carrey in there.
- 23:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:35Speaker 4: Like I'm thinking about all the scenes that are very vivid,
- 23:38Speaker 4: like recollections of maybe the iconic scenes in that movie.
- 23:42Speaker 4: Like you mentioned, you know, the toilet humor, right? Being
- 23:47Speaker 4: on the back of the scooter with bugs in their teeth.
- 23:50Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, I'm trying to picture
- 23:53Speaker 4: it because to your point, I agree. Like Jeff Daniels
- 23:55Speaker 4: in that role. Is that even somebody I would think
- 23:58Speaker 4: of before that? So Jeff Daniels then becomes the Stargate Colonel,
- 24:04Speaker 4: which I guess I could see. I could see that
- 24:06Speaker 4: better than I could see.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Yeah, he's kind of done some of those things.
- 24:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 24:11Speaker 1: But Kurt Russell's got that, you know, he can do
- 24:14Speaker 1: sometimes that. And he does a little bit in Big
- 24:16Speaker 1: Trouble in Little China, that kind of like blank look
- 24:19Speaker 1: on his face.
- 24:20Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:20Speaker 1: You know, can he totally get there and go full on?
- 24:23Speaker 4: Yeah. The stupid humor. I don't know. I mean, I
- 24:27Speaker 4: think it would be worth it to see if it
- 24:30Speaker 4: could happen, but I'll be honest, like I really can't
- 24:34Speaker 4: envision it. I don't know why.
- 24:36Speaker 1: Fun fact, the original person they wanted for, you know,
- 24:41Speaker 1: Harry before Jeff Daniels, Nick Cage turned down the part.
- 24:47Speaker 4: Ironically, I can see Nick Cage in that role. You know,
- 24:50Speaker 4: like I can see Raising Arizona, Nick Cage in that role.
- 24:55Speaker 1: Because he goes full crazy.
- 24:57Speaker 4: That's what I picture, though, is Raising Arizona. You know
- 25:00Speaker 4: what I mean? Like, just like a real wacky dude.
- 25:04Speaker 1: See, my argument is I think Kurt Russell needs this.
- 25:08Speaker 1: He's in a lane for most of his career.
- 25:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 25:12Speaker 1: He needs something further outside that lane. Big Lebowski kind
- 25:15Speaker 1: of fits that. I would say this fits that. This
- 25:18Speaker 1: fits that more. This is like farther outside.
- 25:21Speaker 4: Hmm.
- 25:23Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:23Speaker 1: You're doubting him. Kurt Russell is going to kill you.
- 25:26Speaker 4: I mean, I just feel like he's getting kerfuffled in
- 25:29Speaker 4: that one. In that segment, I think he's getting kerfuffled
- 25:33Speaker 4: by the Daniels.
- 25:35Speaker 1: You feel like Kurt Russell is just falling on his
- 25:37Speaker 1: face in Dumb and Dumber.
- 25:38Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it works. You know, because I
- 25:40Speaker 4: think it's also some of the chemistry of the characters.
- 25:43Speaker 4: You know, what you were saying about you need Jim
- 25:45Speaker 4: Carrey in that role. Do I see Kurt Russell and
- 25:48Speaker 4: Jim Carrey together? I don't know.
- 25:51Speaker 1: I feel like they're almost like brothers at that point.
- 25:54Speaker 1: Whereas like, you know, Jeff Daniels and Jim Carrey have
- 25:56Speaker 1: a contrast in terms of how they look.
- 25:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:59Speaker 1: Kurt Russell and Jim Carrey almost look, I don't want
- 26:02Speaker 1: to say they look similar, you know, cause they're like
- 26:05Speaker 1: much different, but probably like close, same heights, you know,
- 26:09Speaker 1: darkish hair, stuff like that. So they're, they're a little closer.
- 26:12Speaker 4: Can Kurt Russell play the part with the eye patch from,
- 26:17Speaker 4: Escape from New York.
- 26:18Speaker 1: Escape from New York.
- 26:18Speaker 4: Or Captain Ron.
- 26:21Speaker 1: That's true.
- 26:22Speaker 2: Weird.
- 26:23Speaker 4: He likes eye patches.
- 26:24Speaker 1: He likes to have one eye.
- 26:26Speaker 4: If he can wear the eye patch, I think it works.
- 26:28Speaker 4: I think I could see him in that role.
- 26:30Speaker 1: That's better.
- 26:31Speaker 4: Does that not work better for you when you think
- 26:33Speaker 4: of it?
- 26:35Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if that character needs
- 26:37Speaker 1: an eye patch. Maybe some kind of funny glasses.
- 26:40Speaker 4: Or funny glasses. Give him funny glasses and the bob cut.
- 26:45Speaker 4: or whatever it was that Jeff Daniels had.
- 26:48Speaker 1: I mean, you give him a bad haircut, maybe a
- 26:49Speaker 1: mustache and some thick glasses, he could be somebody different.
- 26:55Speaker 4: You're starting to talk me into it a little bit.
- 26:57Speaker 4: You have to disguise him.
- 26:59Speaker 1: You need to have a little imagination. You might need
- 27:02Speaker 1: something like that. Maybe he gained some weight. He might
- 27:04Speaker 1: need something to kind of transform himself so you're like,
- 27:07Speaker 1: this is a different Kurt Russell. But I believe in him.
- 27:10Speaker 1: I believe he's got the comic chops.
- 27:12Speaker 4: If he could be like Stallone in... Copland and gain
- 27:17Speaker 4: 200 pounds?
- 27:18Speaker 1: Well, he can't have all his muscle. You know what
- 27:20Speaker 1: I mean?
- 27:20Speaker 2: Right.
- 27:21Speaker 1: He can't be like Muscle Russell. Could this be a segment?
- 27:26Speaker 4: All right. So we like to end each episode by
- 27:29Speaker 4: pitching an idea for a new segment on the show.
- 27:32Speaker 4: This is what keeps the show going, essentially. Just keeps
- 27:36Speaker 4: going and going. So new segment. What do you got
- 27:40Speaker 4: for an idea? Brainstorm me a segment, Chad.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Um, I had another name for this, but what I'm calling,
- 27:48Speaker 1: I forget what it was now. So what I'm calling
- 27:50Speaker 1: it right now is revutia.
- 27:54Speaker 4: Okay.
- 27:54Speaker 1: Like minutia and review mixed together.
- 27:58Speaker 4: I like the word minutia.
- 28:00Speaker 1: So the basic premise is we review the mundane, the ordinary, um,
- 28:06Speaker 1: and the completely unavoidable one star at a time. So,
- 28:11Speaker 1: What we'll do is we'll review things like tissues, salt, water.
- 28:16Speaker 1: These are just examples. Shoelaces, forks, doors, receipts, parking lots.
- 28:23Speaker 1: But we'll do so in the language of Yelp reviewers.
- 28:27Speaker 4: Okay.
- 28:28Speaker 1: So let me give you an example. That might be
- 28:30Speaker 1: the best way. Table salt, one star. Absolutely terrible. First
- 28:35Speaker 1: of all, it's salty. I understand that's technically its purpose,
- 28:39Speaker 1: but there is such a thing as too much commitment
- 28:42Speaker 1: to the bit. Also, the container is impossible to operate.
- 28:46Speaker 1: You either get nothing or suddenly you're staring at the
- 28:49Speaker 1: aftermath of the great salt flood of 2026. Would not recommend.
- 28:54Speaker 4: Would not recommend.
- 28:55Speaker 1: Here's another example.
- 28:57Speaker 4: Tissues.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Three stars. Pretty good when you need one. However, I
- 29:01Speaker 1: have now purchased 400 of you because apparently you only
- 29:05Speaker 1: exist in groups of 400. Then when I actually need one,
- 29:09Speaker 1: I pull out six. Where are the tissues I paid for?
- 29:13Speaker 1: Why are you coming out like a magician's handkerchief?
- 29:18Speaker 3: Okay.
- 29:19Speaker 4: So reviewing.
- 29:21Speaker 1: The dumbest things in life, you know, everyday things that
- 29:25Speaker 1: no one would ever actually care to review. But in
- 29:28Speaker 1: that Yelp style, you know, where somebody's panning it like
- 29:31Speaker 1: it's the most meaningful thing in the world.
- 29:34Speaker 4: They really do, don't they?
- 29:35Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 29:37Speaker 4: Like it's dire consequence. and circumstances.
- 29:42Speaker 1: Mm-hmm, yeah. I must spread the word about table salt.
- 29:47Speaker 1: So that's revutia.
- 29:49Speaker 4: How do you spell revutia?
- 29:51Speaker 1: It's like review, R-E-V-I-E-W-T-A. I-A-E.
- 30:02Speaker 4: Okay.
- 30:03Speaker 1: You got that?
- 30:04Speaker 3: I-A-E.
- 30:06Speaker 4: Revusha. That's not how I would have spelled Revusha. That
- 30:13Speaker 4: alone wins it a spot as another segment. Revusha.
- 30:19Speaker 1: Revusha.
- 30:20Speaker 4: Reviewing the minutia.
- 30:22Speaker 1: Minutia.
- 30:24Speaker 4: I like it. I like it. I think anytime we
- 30:26Speaker 4: can turn... The norm upside down on its head.
- 30:31Speaker 1: Who doesn't like giving, you know, one star reviews to Mondays?
- 30:36Speaker 4: I would give it to every day if I could.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Days. One star. There's so many of them.
- 30:46Speaker 4: Why are there so many?
- 30:47Speaker 1: They just don't stop.
- 30:48Speaker 4: They just keep going. All right. So mine is called
- 30:53Speaker 4: The Apology Draft.
- 30:55Speaker 1: Sha.
- 30:56Speaker 4: Draft Sha. I think I'm just calling it draft because of,
- 31:04Speaker 4: you know, we do summer movie drafts and I was still,
- 31:07Speaker 4: I was yearning for a draft.
- 31:09Speaker 1: But we do have that other one.
- 31:11Speaker 4: We do have a lot of draft things. So this
- 31:14Speaker 4: one is where we write the public apology for a
- 31:18Speaker 4: fictional character from a movie. So, you know, the, the
- 31:21Speaker 4: public apology is a fictional character from a movie, but
- 31:25Speaker 4: they would issue it out. Right.
- 31:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 31:27Speaker 4: And then basically, you know, we would judge whether or
- 31:30Speaker 4: not that they would, you know, save their reputation or
- 31:33Speaker 4: whatever by through this apology. So I'll give you an example.
- 31:38Speaker 4: Let's take Batman from the Dark Knight trilogy. Gotham deserves transparency.
- 31:44Speaker 4: That is why I'm confirming that an incident involving my
- 31:47Speaker 4: vehicle caused damage to several vehicles that were not mine.
- 31:51Speaker 4: Their owners may submit claims to the Wayne Foundation. Its
- 31:55Speaker 4: generous decision to cover these costs should not invite further speculation.
- 32:00Speaker 4: I have heard your concerns about accountability and will discuss
- 32:03Speaker 4: them with the commissioner alone on a roof.
- 32:09Speaker 1: I like that last part.
- 32:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 32:11Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's pretty good because there's a lot of,
- 32:14Speaker 1: it's kind of like dead in movies in the sense
- 32:16Speaker 1: there's just so many places you can go with it.
- 32:19Speaker 1: It could be a small character. It could be a
- 32:20Speaker 1: main character.
- 32:21Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 32:22Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of people who probably need
- 32:24Speaker 1: to apologize for some things.
- 32:25Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:26Speaker 4: And, you know, I think it's going to be the
- 32:28Speaker 4: more obscure fun ones that we've never thought of before. But, like,
- 32:32Speaker 4: you could be just watching something that week whenever we're
- 32:36Speaker 4: doing that segment and just be like, that guy needs
- 32:38Speaker 4: to apologize. That person needs to apologize in that movie
- 32:43Speaker 4: or whatever.
- 32:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Apply today's. accountability, cultural rules to a slasher movie from
- 32:51Speaker 1: the 1970s. There'd be a lot of apologizing.
- 32:54Speaker 4: I bet you in that movie you just watched, Resident Evil,
- 32:58Speaker 4: I bet you there's somebody that needs to apologize in
- 33:00Speaker 4: that movie.
- 33:01Speaker 1: I'm sure there is. Probably several people.
- 33:03Speaker 4: Maybe even in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. There's
- 33:06Speaker 4: got to be somebody in there who needs to apologize.
- 33:08Speaker 1: I think Richard Dreyfuss could probably apologize to his family.
- 33:13Speaker 4: He probably could when he's making... devil's tower out of
- 33:18Speaker 4: mashed potatoes yeah i mean come.
- 33:21Speaker 1: On dirt he like starts to bring dirt into their
- 33:24Speaker 1: mounds of dirt into their.
- 33:25Speaker 4: Kitchen yeah i man i remember that that's crazy yeah
- 33:29Speaker 4: it's kind.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Of crazy to watch it now and you're like oh
- 33:33Speaker 1: man this guy is like pretty terrible um drives his
- 33:37Speaker 1: whole family away and then he just disappeared well.
- 33:39Speaker 4: And you know it's not his fault I mean, he's
- 33:42Speaker 4: sort of like consumed. It's almost like.
- 33:44Speaker 1: Yeah, he's obsessed with the business side of it.