Latest / Pastor John Piper's answers / Killing Lust with the Cross of Christ
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- 0:04Welcome back. As you know, on this podcast we cover the topic of
- 0:08a lust from a variety of angles. We did so again on Monday.
- 0:12It's probably the category of question we get asked about more than any other.
- 0:15And you'll see all those many ways that this topic has come up on the
- 0:18podcast in that digest to put together on pages three nine to three twenty nine
- 0:24in the new Ask Pastor John book On Monday Pastor John and APJ twenty forty
- 0:29seven, you encourage a wife to confront her husband about erotica lid that she
- 0:34found on his phone, and from confrontation comes conviction and repentance, we hope,
- 0:41which is part of the lifelong discipline of killing lust within ourselves. We
- 0:46must root the sin of lust from our lives, and to do that,
- 0:49we'd be helpless on our own. We couldn't do it on our own,
- 0:52and so we're not called to battle alone. Most notably, we have the
- 0:55Gospel, and we need the Gospel here because the only sin that we can
- 1:00or purge from our lives is canceled sin. Step one, the sin is
- 1:06canceled by the blood of Christ. We're justified before God. And then step
- 1:11two we purge that sin from our lives. Can't ever get that backwards.
- 1:15Sin canceled, then sin purged another super important theme on the podcast over the
- 1:19years, as you can see in the APJA book on page two seventy four.
- 1:23So using the Gospel to purge sin is our topic today. It's fitting
- 1:29because today in our navigator's Bible reading plan, we are reading about the murder
- 1:34of Christ in Mark fifteen, verses thirty three to forty one. Pastro John,
- 1:38you have talked about the role of visualizing Christ's crucifixion in our battle against
- 1:44lustful thoughts. Lust is so often a visible battle, so it makes sense
- 1:49that this battle is fought visually or at least in the visuals of the imagination.
- 1:55For this purpose, you use an acronym. You created an acronym for
- 1:57this called anthem. That's important here to fight lust, and particularly the ah
- 2:02in anthem, which you define as quote, hold a beautiful vision of Jesus
- 2:07in your mind until it triumphs over the other sensual vision quote. So in
- 2:14the fight against lust, how important is it to have this beautiful vision of
- 2:17Jesus And how does this work for you in the moment of temptation? What's
- 2:23happening as you hold this image in your imagination. Well, Tony, I've
- 2:30had history with really bad ways of using visualization in prayer. So even though
- 2:38the question isn't exactly that, let me start there. Pictures can begin to
- 2:45displace the word of scripture as the center of God's saving communication, and that's
- 2:52really dangerous. We can edge right up to and transgress the intention of the
- 2:58second commandment. Don't make any graven images for worship. There's an approach that
- 3:06I've run into. It's pretty widespread, at least, it was to healing
- 3:10prayer, where people are instructed to go back into their painful past and visualize
- 3:15a scene of say abuse, sexual abuse, and for example, imagine Jesus.
- 3:20Picture Jesus walking into the room and picking you up and hugging you and
- 3:23caring for you. And there are problems with that kind of counseling, it
- 3:30seems to me, because it's foreign to scripture. You don't find any pattern
- 3:35quite like that in scripture, and it's usually slanted away from some of the
- 3:39aspects of the role that Jesus plays, namely in Providence, portraying him only
- 3:45as a comforter and not as a sovereign, and not as a judge,
- 3:49and not as one who's going to handle that perpetrator with violence someday. It
- 3:53tends to be just soft and gentle and warm and therefore slanted. It tends
- 3:59to overseemy and over psychologize, which really needed. The healing of the soul
- 4:05involves a profound spiritual perception not only of a tender affectionate Jesus, but of
- 4:14the full meaning of the Cross, and the reality of the Holy Spirit and
- 4:16God's ways in justice and judgments. So there are real dangers that I've encountered
- 4:23in this whole area of visualization in prayer. But let me get back to
- 4:30the positive side. Jesus is the eternal word, and he became flesh John
- 4:36one fourteen, so we know he had a body. People looked at him.
- 4:41They could see him with their physical eyes, unlike God the Father,
- 4:45who can't be visualized in that way. I don't think we should picture God
- 4:48the Father as a grandfather with a white beard. I think that's a big
- 4:53mistake. But Jesus had flesh and bones. And here's another point. Some
- 4:58words do not invoke visual realities like love, hate, right, wrong kind.
- 5:05Those are general principial kinds of words. But other words do evoke necessarily
- 5:13images in our minds. Cross, blood, nails, spear, side of
- 5:18body, hands, feet, thorns, beard, spit rod, sun,
- 5:27darkened hill. You can't say those words without seeing something because those words are
- 5:32names of sights. They're names of sights. You see a hand, you
- 5:35put a word on a hand, you expect people to process that word and
- 5:40have a kind of hand visualized in their mind. No specific hand, but
- 5:45the idea of hand is being visualized in their mind. So when you read
- 5:49about the ninth hour, Jesus cried out with a loud voice. Now you've
- 5:55got sounds as well. There are words that designate sounds, like loud voice.
- 6:00That word is supposed to conjure something in your mind concerning each and it
- 6:06was loud. The word loud is used to make you feel and think loud.
- 6:13And then Jesus calls out with a loud voice, Father, into your
- 6:16hands, I commit my spirit. The point of those very words is to
- 6:20get our minds hearing something. And the words like beard and spit are supposed
- 6:28to get our minds seeing something. And then here's here's one pointer from the
- 6:31Apostle that that inclines me to go ahead and form this image in my mind
- 6:38Galatians three to one, Oh, foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you?
- 6:44It was before your very eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified.
- 6:48Now what does that mean. I don't think it means Paul got out a
- 6:53piece of talk and drew Jesus. But it means evidently that he portrayed with
- 7:00words through the Gospel the Cross so vividly he says, it was like I
- 7:05was doing it before your very eyes. He used the words eyes here.
- 7:10It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed. So maybe he
- 7:14means I'm embodying this with my sufferings. I'm speaking it in such a way
- 7:18that you can see it. And so one of my strategies, toning back
- 7:25to Anthem and the whole battle with lust, one of my strategies in trying
- 7:30to obey Jesus tearing out my eyes and putting sin to death and counting myself
- 7:33dead, is to fight nudity. Let's just take that as a concrete example.
- 7:40Fight nudity in my mind with Christ's misery on the cross. So nudity
- 7:46is a picture in my mind. Now I've argued that Christ's misery on the
- 7:50cross is a picture in my mind. Christ died to make me pure.
- 7:58This lustful thought is not pure. Or therefore, if I willingly hold this
- 8:03image in my mind, I'm taking a spear and thrusting it into the side
- 8:07of Jesus. I picture myself about to do that. I picture him saying
- 8:13I love you, I love you. I am dying to free you from
- 8:20that bondage to lust. And I picture a battered body. And maybe I
- 8:24should qualify it's not a photographic. I don't have a particular face in view.
- 8:31I don't know what Jesus looked like. I don't pick a movie star
- 8:35from the passion of the Christ or whatever. I don't have a particular face
- 8:39before me. He doesn't look like any actor. I don't get that specific.
- 8:43It's a it's a word created picture, not a photo created picture.
- 8:48So it's what I think Paul did when he said in Galatians two twenty the
- 8:54life I now live in the flesh. I live by faith in the Son
- 8:58of God who loved me. Now he could have stopped right there, couldn't
- 9:01he who loved me, and he added and gave himself for me. In
- 9:07Paul's mind, the faith to kill sin every day in his life was strengthened
- 9:11by remembering the love of Christ for him. And the love of Christ is
- 9:16emblazoned in Paul's mind as he thought of him as crucified. He gave himself
- 9:24for me. And Paul saw crucified people. They were on the hills.
- 9:28It was horrible. And when he said Christ gave himself for me, I
- 9:33can't believe that he didn't have some picture, if not photographic, in his
- 9:39mind of Christ suffering profoundly for his purity. And thus his faith was empowered
- 9:46to defeat lust. Yeah, thank you best for John, and thanks for
- 9:50joining us today on the podcast. For other strategies to fight lust, see
- 9:54the digest that I wrote in the new APGA book on pages three nine to
- 9:56three twenty nine. The acronym them comes up there too. You can see
- 10:01the whole acronym there. N see page two seventy four on why our sin
- 10:05must be canceled first before it gets purged. Absolutely vital And speaking of the
- 10:11graphic nature of Christ's death on the cross, how joyful was Jesus In that
- 10:15moment on the Cross, popular actor shi Le Buff says, very joyful Jesus
- 10:22was in bliss. On the Cross. John Piper says, hold up,
- 10:26what actor shi Le Buff gets wrong about joy That's Monday, on Memorial Day.
- 10:30I'm Tony Ranky. We'll see you then,