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Credlin | 10 July · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: How good has Caroline been hosting? Chris kennyways been on
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Speaker 2: Leeds's been fantastic, good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's
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Speaker 2: what's coming up tonight on Kredline. The release today of
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Speaker 2: the Federal government's report into anti Semitism, or should I
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Speaker 2: say the report from a special envoy. There was no
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Speaker 2: action announced from the PM, which shast more words well
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Speaker 2: enough with the words as a Victorian opposition leader, he's
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Speaker 2: announced action to deal with anti Israel protesters and all
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Speaker 2: their violence. The former police officer Brad Batman joins me shortly,
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Speaker 2: no wonder we've got a crisis of childcare when the
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Speaker 2: training priorities gender identity before health and safety. And Queensland
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Speaker 2: today announces mandatory safety training for childcare workers. Now am
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Speaker 2: I the only one surprises? Isn't already mandatory? What about
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Speaker 2: the other states? Plus the shocking report exposing the extent
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Speaker 2: of c IFVU thuggery, allegations of death threats, violence, misogyny,
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Speaker 2: even targeting of children. So what needs to happen to
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Speaker 2: make sure Labour's union mates are brought into line? And
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Speaker 2: while Jillian Siegel's done her work to come up with
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Speaker 2: a plan for the government to combat the scourge of
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism. Unfortunately, and I'll go through this in a moment,
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Speaker 2: there was very little that was real from the actions
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Speaker 2: of the government today.
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Speaker 3: This is a scourge that needs to be pushed to
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Speaker 3: the margin so that it is not part of the
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Speaker 3: Australia that we have.
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Speaker 2: We'll stay with that issue because after billing today is
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Speaker 2: a big day for combating andti Semitism. All we got
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Speaker 2: from the Prime Minister was more talk because he mows
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Speaker 2: the usual platitudes. The Jew hatred was despicable and should
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Speaker 2: be met with the full force of the law.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Despite a weekend of violence in Melbourne and all the
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Speaker 2: other crimes that have happened to Jews, the fire bombing
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Speaker 2: now of three synagogues, the torching of cars, rampages through
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Speaker 2: restaurants and in timidary marches on most weekends in many
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Speaker 2: of our cities, all we got from the Alberdezer government
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Speaker 2: was that handing over of the report from their Special
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Speaker 2: Envoy on anti Semitism, nothing more.
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Speaker 4: And I welcomed this report and I thank her for
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Speaker 4: the work that she has done anti Semitism is an
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Speaker 4: evil scourge and there is no place in Australia for
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Speaker 4: anti Semitism. The kind of hatred and violence that we've
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Speaker 4: seen on our streets recently is despicable and it won't
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Speaker 4: be tolerated. And I want tho its responsible.
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Speaker 2: For the government not to have on the table today
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Speaker 2: their response to the Seagul Reporter at a bare minimum,
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Speaker 2: a list of five or six of the most urgent
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Speaker 2: things they can progress immediately. Well, I think that's an insult,
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Speaker 2: not just the Jewish Australians, but to every one of us.
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Speaker 2: Do and gentile alike. Regard what's being allowed to fester
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Speaker 2: and grow in our community as an abomination. Now, nothing
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister said today will stop anti Semitism. Essentially,
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Speaker 2: what we got was more high minded hand ringing and
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Speaker 2: not the action, not the leadership that's desperately needed. So
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Speaker 2: what did Siegul recommend in her report? Well, the report's
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Speaker 2: recommendations that the government welcomed called for training of border
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Speaker 2: force officials to spot and deport anti Semites, a national
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Speaker 2: standard definition of anti Jewish bigotry, cuts to the funding
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Speaker 2: and the loss of charitable status for institutions that don't
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Speaker 2: effectively deal with antisemitism, an anti semitism report card for
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Speaker 2: our universities and clear editorial standards for the ABC. Now
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Speaker 2: it's hard to disagree with any of that, but not
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Speaker 2: one of those things were actually adopted by the government today. Instead,
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Speaker 2: they just said they're being considered.
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Speaker 4: Will now carefully consider the report recommendations. There's a number
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Speaker 4: of the in here that we are doing. As a
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Speaker 4: number of things can be implemented quickly, there are a
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Speaker 4: number of things that will require work over a period on.
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Speaker 2: And Yet as I watched the PM and Tony Burke
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Speaker 2: stand there today with their concerned faces turned on, I thought, seriously,
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Speaker 2: does anyone think this government, this government that gave three
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Speaker 2: thousand tourist visas to people from the terrorist controlled war
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Speaker 2: zone of Gaza, is suddenly going to crack down on
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Speaker 2: anti Semitic visa applicants. I mean, does anyone really think
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Speaker 2: the ABC's reporting will change, or that university is going
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Speaker 2: to change their behavior, or that the funding would be
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Speaker 2: cut by the government should there be more anti Semitic
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Speaker 2: encampments or more due hatred from activist academics. It's just
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Speaker 2: so typical of this government that it would release a
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Speaker 2: report without also releasing a plan to implement it. And
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Speaker 2: it's hard to take today those expressions of concerns seriously
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Speaker 2: from the likes of Tony Burke, when the Home Affairs
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Speaker 2: Minister ostentatiously failed to condemn the eruptions of anti semitism
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Speaker 2: immediately after the October seven atrocity. Now look at Burke today.
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Speaker 5: We all wish that we could have a plan for
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Speaker 5: the obliteration of antisemitism. History has a very different and
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Speaker 5: sad message, but this is about pushing it absolutely to
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Speaker 5: the margins, because this form of bigotry is absolutely an
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Speaker 5: attack on Australia.
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Speaker 2: And yet here's what was said in his own electoral
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Speaker 2: backyard on October eight, before there even been one act
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Speaker 2: of retaliation by Israel for the atrocities that had happened
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Speaker 2: twenty four hours earlier on October seven.
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Speaker 6: I'm smiling, I.
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Speaker 7: Mean.
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Speaker 2: And what was Burke's response to that at the time. Well, first,
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Speaker 2: RP he refused to condemn those inflammatory remarks, as any
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Speaker 2: MP should have condemned them, and then he tried to
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Speaker 2: put October seven, he said, into some sort of false
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Speaker 2: context before the seventh book turners.
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Speaker 5: I think it's worth remembering, because sometimes.
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Speaker 3: Forgotten he can.
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Speaker 2: You're what. There can be no context, historical or otherwise
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Speaker 2: that can justify the rape and murder of babies, women's children,
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Speaker 2: and innocence. Even today, the Prime Minister couldn't avoid criticizing
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Speaker 2: Israel and his typical moral equivalence between liberal democratic Israel
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Speaker 2: and the hummasd terrorist death cults. Well, that adds further
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Speaker 2: insult to injury.
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Speaker 4: I will continue to support the legitimate aspirations of the
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Speaker 4: Palestinian people for their own state, but I will continue
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Speaker 4: to oppose terrorist organizations like Commas. I'll continue to speak
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Speaker 4: out on the need for aid into Gaza and for
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Speaker 4: humanitarian concerns.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's such a far cry from the Labor
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Speaker 2: Party of Bob Hawk, isn't it, who famously declare that
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Speaker 2: if the bell tolls for Israel, it told for all mankind?
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Speaker 2: And also a far cry too from the Labor Party
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Speaker 2: of Doc ever To. As General Assembly President, led the
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Speaker 2: United Nations to approve the creation of the State of Israel. Indeed,
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Speaker 2: the first country to vote for the partition to create
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Speaker 2: the modern state of Israel was Australia. Now sadly, the
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Speaker 2: rampant Jew Hayes. That's been so evident since October seven.
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Speaker 2: One change is a result of anything announced today that
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Speaker 2: we know. Additional prosecutions, no additional deportations, no better policing
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Speaker 2: of hate speech, and certainly no bans on the intimtry
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Speaker 2: pro Hamas marches and our routine in our suburbs, particularly
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Speaker 2: in Melbourne, on anti Semitism, as on so much else.
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Speaker 2: This is a government that's better at striking a pose
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Speaker 2: than making a difference. It can't effectively crack down on
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Speaker 2: due hatred, just as it can't effectively manage our relationship
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Speaker 2: with our most important ally. Next week, the PM will
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Speaker 2: spend six days in communist China, and that's clearly a
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Speaker 2: higher priority for him than spending six minutes with a
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Speaker 2: leader of the free world. This is his second high
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Speaker 2: level official visit to Beijing. Clearly our Prime Minister seems
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Speaker 2: more comfortable spending time with President g whom he's already
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Speaker 2: met four times, than President Trump, whom he's never met
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Speaker 2: but has admitted he's scared of.
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Speaker 4: We have an alliance with the US, We're going to
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Speaker 4: deal with him, but that doesn't mean that you're uncritical
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Speaker 4: about it. He scared it out of me.
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Speaker 2: Granted that Donald Trump commit thin skinned and transactional, it's
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Speaker 2: still vital RPM has a working relationship with the US President.
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Speaker 2: For someone who's never stopped waving around his Medicare car
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Speaker 2: during the election campaign, you think the PM would be
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Speaker 2: rushing to Washington, wouldn't you, to counter Big Farmer's latest
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Speaker 2: attack on our PBS. The threatened two hundred percent tariffs
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Speaker 2: on Australian pharmaceutical exports to America are almost certainly an
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Speaker 2: attempt to extract higher prices here for American patented drugs.
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Speaker 2: In the end that will inevitably mean high health costs
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Speaker 2: for Australians or, at the very least taxpayers who fund
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Speaker 2: the system. Then news Orcas, I mean, why would America
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Speaker 2: do more to defend Australia that Australia is prepared to
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Speaker 2: do for itself. Why would America has been nearly four
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Speaker 2: percent of its money on defense to protect allies like
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Speaker 2: us when we can scarcely spend two percent ourselves. Why
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Speaker 2: would America give US three of its nuclear powered submarines
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Speaker 2: without a clear understanding that they'd be on America's side
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Speaker 2: in any showdown over Taiwan. Most of the labour Party
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Speaker 2: only supported Orcus to avoid the charge of being weak
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Speaker 2: on national security back in the Morrison era. But Labor
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Speaker 2: hates nuclear power and they know that their opposition to
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Speaker 2: nuclear power on land can't survive support for nuclear power
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Speaker 2: at sea. Meaning it's hard to avoid the conclusion that
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Speaker 2: deep down Anthony Imeneasy wants to torpedo Orcus, but that
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Speaker 2: he wants Donald Trump to be the one who first
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Speaker 2: walks away. The loss of Orcus would put the whole
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Speaker 2: US Alliance as in peril. But that's where it's headed
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Speaker 2: under this government. Divided here at home, pretty friendless overseas.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's got a cameraon out for the headlines.
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Speaker 2: Sky News putical reporter can Redden.
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Speaker 8: Good Evening, the government's Special Envoy wants racists deported and
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Speaker 8: university funding pulled to combat antisemitism.
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Speaker 4: Anti Semitism is an evil scourge.
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Speaker 8: Special Envoy Gillian Siegel wants tougher visa screening to identify
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Speaker 8: people harboring hateful views and for non citizens involved in
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Speaker 8: acts of antisemitism to be deported.
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Speaker 3: For people making these decisions need to understand what else
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Speaker 3: is going on.
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Speaker 4: There's a number of things in here that we are
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Speaker 4: doing There's a number of things can be implemented quickly.
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Speaker 4: There are a number of things that will require work
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Speaker 4: over a period of time.
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Speaker 9: Why bother going through this exercise unless we implement these.
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Speaker 8: As the Trump administrations review into ORCUS continues, there are
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Speaker 8: reports the Pentagon could ask Australia to pay more for
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Speaker 8: its submarine program.
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Speaker 10: We are entitled to try and influence that process.
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Speaker 2: Where the ones putting the money on the table. This
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Speaker 2: is a shakedown.
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Speaker 8: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: I'll come back to today's relation of the anti seventis are
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Speaker 2: import by Jillian Siegel. In a moment, we'll speak with
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Speaker 2: former Labor MP Michael Danby. But plenty of other issues
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Speaker 2: I want to get across. Now, join a met to
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Speaker 2: do that debuit. Executive director at the Institute of Public
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Speaker 2: Affairs Daniel Wild And here with me and Melbourne broadcaster
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Speaker 2: Carolie Katzimbarnas. Welcome to you both. I want to start
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Speaker 2: with this controversial plan to tax unrealized capital gains and
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Speaker 2: reports today the Treasurer is seeking to expand his already
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Speaker 2: contentious tax sike without parliamentary proven of This is really
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Speaker 2: interesting in legislative drafting terms, because he wants to use
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Speaker 2: a little known clause known as the Henry the eighth
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Speaker 2: Clause Constitutional Law X with Greg Crave and has unpacked
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Speaker 2: all of this today, says it allow the Treasurer to
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Speaker 2: adjust key parts of the plan once you see is
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Speaker 2: how much money it's bringing in, as if the proposal
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Speaker 2: wasn't bad enough. The Treasurer also lets slip he's spoken
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Speaker 2: to Paul Keating about the plan.
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Speaker 11: I don't want to verbal him. I don't want to
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Speaker 11: go into private conversations. I don't think it would surprise
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Speaker 11: any of you or anyone listening to learn that I
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Speaker 11: speak with Paul Keating relatively regularly, not just about this issue,
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Speaker 11: but about a whole range of issues.
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Speaker 2: Now, Dan a couple of things here. I hope he
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Speaker 2: is listening to Ketting, as we know. Ketting's an opponent
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Speaker 2: of this tax, is certainly upset that it's not index.
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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what. Back to the legislation. I
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Speaker 2: mean building in the legislation ways to broaden the scope
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Speaker 2: of it the tax without then going back to the Parliament.
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Speaker 2: That should alarm every tax payer. And I think it's
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Speaker 2: also alarming in governance terms, given this will end up,
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Speaker 2: I reckon by stealth some sort of depth tax.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're exactly right, Peter. I mean this is an
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Speaker 1: extraordinary power grab, an abuse of power. When we look
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Speaker 1: at the relevant section that we're discussing here, which is
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Speaker 1: section two ninety six sixty, which is what Professor Craven
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Speaker 1: was talking about. What's so extraordinary about this, Peter, is
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Speaker 1: would actually give the Treasurer the ability to make changes
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Speaker 1: to the law based on circumstances pertaining to individuals, So
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Speaker 1: he could change it not just in relation to broad considerations,
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Speaker 1: but would be able to target it towards individuals, which
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Speaker 1: violates every single principle of the rule of law, which
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Speaker 1: is that the law should be applied fairly and equally
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Speaker 1: to everybody, and also that the law is knowable and
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Speaker 1: transparent to the community. There's simply no way of knowing
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Speaker 1: how these proposed changes to the laws would work, because
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Speaker 1: there would be so much power vested in the treasure
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Speaker 1: himself to make subjective decisions in regarding to how how
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Speaker 1: exactly as you have said, to increase taxes on Australians
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Speaker 1: without any checks and balances going through Parliament. It really
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Speaker 1: is quite extraordinary, and I think that Australians and as
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Speaker 1: you say, taxpayers in particular are right to be alarmed
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Speaker 1: by this.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to stuff I touched the top of the
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Speaker 2: show about our sort of deteriorating relationship with the United States.
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Speaker 2: There's reports to the Nine Paper suggesting that it's part
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Speaker 2: of the Trump administration's review of ORCUS. They're going to
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Speaker 2: demand we pay more than we currently do currently. It's
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Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty eight billion. That's surprise tag for
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Speaker 2: these three Virginia Class subs, and that will also provide
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Speaker 2: a guarantee should they require this is the US those subs.
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Speaker 2: In any conflict with Taiwan, we would step up to
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Speaker 2: the mark. This prompted James Patterson to call our diplomats
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Speaker 2: in Washington to do their job, he says, and get
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Speaker 2: some clarity around this issue.
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Speaker 10: We are entitled to try and influence that process, and
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Speaker 10: any country with any diplomatic heft or ability to move
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Speaker 10: quickly would be all over this. We should be able
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Speaker 10: to save UCAS, but we are not going to save
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Speaker 10: aucas if we just let this thing on cruise, if
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Speaker 10: we don't take charge of it, if the Prime Minister
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Speaker 10: doesn't personally take charge of.
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Speaker 2: It, and There was also a call from Bridge McKenzie
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Speaker 2: saying that, you know, Kevin ryme's really in the hot
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Speaker 2: scene here. Who's got to step up himself and fix
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Speaker 2: a relationship or do better in terms of meetings and negotiations.
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Speaker 2: Certainly on the heel, I mean, curly it would be
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Speaker 2: in expectation under ANSAs. So we all know the Answers
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Speaker 2: Treaty that if there was a conflict and the United
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Speaker 2: States was involved, that they would be able to call
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Speaker 2: on us. I don't think you need to amplify it
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Speaker 2: or restate it again for Orcus. But I'll tell you what,
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Speaker 2: this relationship's got pretty bad. I think we've got to
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Speaker 2: think about changing out Kevin run, don't we, Peter, We
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Speaker 2: certainly do it.
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Speaker 7: I'm certainly not backwards in coming forwards with this, so
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Speaker 7: I said on the no November the fifth, when it
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Speaker 7: first came out that.
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Speaker 2: Kevin right had.
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Speaker 7: Not deleted those tweets that he'd done in the texts
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Speaker 7: that he'd done as well. I mean, he's called Trump
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Speaker 7: the village iliot, he's called him the most destructive president
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Speaker 7: in history, and he's also called him a trader to
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Speaker 7: the West. It's not going to end well. We're eight
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Speaker 7: months now and there's been no face to face interview
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Speaker 7: with Donald Trump. All other meetings have been rescheduled for
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Speaker 7: other countries. The bottom line is Kevin Rudd, despite the history,
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Speaker 7: despite being a Prime Minister of Australia, he's not doing
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Speaker 7: the job that he is there to do as the
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Speaker 7: Australian ambassador to the United States. We have got problems
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Speaker 7: with our tariffs, we've got problems with copper. Now pharmaceuticals
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Speaker 7: also steal and aluminum. He's not doing his job. And
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Speaker 7: I do have to say I think that Kevin Rudd
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Speaker 7: would probably react in exactly the same way if someone
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Speaker 7: did the same to him. We know that he's got
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Speaker 7: a huge ego. We know what went on in his
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Speaker 7: administration as well. The bottom line is Kevin Rodd needs
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Speaker 7: to have the integrity and actually step down and say
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Speaker 7: I've done all i can do.
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Speaker 2: But here's a novel thing I'm going to leave you with.
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Speaker 7: Rud's always been very proud that he speaks fluent Chinese Mandarin.
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Speaker 7: Trump speaks a lot to Jijing Ping. So how about
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Speaker 7: Rud starts using those contacts or reaching out to Xijing Ping,
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Speaker 7: and maybe Xijingping is the one that can get alban
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Speaker 7: Ezy an interview with Trump face to face, because it's
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Speaker 7: actually got to that. I mean, it's absolutely evident that
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Speaker 7: we're being frozen out.
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Speaker 2: And also I.
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Speaker 7: Think alban Ezi has to have a very serious think.
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Speaker 7: We cannot have a foot in both camps in the
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Speaker 7: Indo Pacific region with the relationship with China and the
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Speaker 7: message that it is sending out to the Trump administration.
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Speaker 7: It's loud and clear. Eight months on, no meeting. This
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Speaker 7: is ridiculous. Rud should resign and if he doesn't resign,
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Speaker 7: he needs to be removed by the Albanese government.
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Speaker 2: It is stupid, I tell you what, Caroly I also
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Speaker 2: think too the optics of us heading off to Beijing.
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Speaker 2: This is the second time you've had an official visit
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Speaker 2: by our Prime minister to Beijing. They've had four meetings,
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Speaker 2: but we've gone there twice. Ji has not come to
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Speaker 2: Australia under the current Prime minister's watch. So we look
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Speaker 2: like the supplicant here, don't we, Dan, Because this is
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Speaker 2: not just a fly by night trip tacked on to
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Speaker 2: another visit in sort of summit season. This is six days,
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Speaker 2: all singing, all dancing, three capital cities and all the time.
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Speaker 2: Of course, we've got this continuing watch on China pushing
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Speaker 2: around the region, and this expectation of conflict in Taiwana
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Speaker 2: in and around twenty twenty seven. This is not going
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Speaker 2: to help us in Washington either.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's certainly not. And I think the issue here
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Speaker 1: is a couple of things. One is you've got a
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Speaker 1: government that's not serious about international affairs. It would rather
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Speaker 1: play petty domestic politics and to make decisions based on
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Speaker 1: personalities than what's in our national interest. I agree with
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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister when he says that decisions on our
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Speaker 1: national security should be made by Australia and not another country.
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Speaker 1: But there's no serious person that would think that Australia
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Speaker 1: would have the capacity need to defend ourselves in the
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Speaker 1: event that we would need to do so. The reality
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Speaker 1: is we are not prepared for conflict in our region
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Speaker 1: and we need to have a strong alliance with the
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Speaker 1: United States. Yes, that alliance is founded on our shared
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Speaker 1: values and our cultural similarities, but the United States also
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Speaker 1: needs to be able to get something out of that alliance,
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Speaker 1: and that will mean increasing our defense spending, spending that
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Speaker 1: money on more effective matters. But also engaging in a
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Speaker 1: more serious way and understanding exactly as you said sometime
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Speaker 1: later in this decade, there is every chance that the
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Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party will seek to, if not actually intervene
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Speaker 1: in Taiwan, and in which case you know it's going
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Speaker 1: to be a guns up, kinetic warfare and we need
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Speaker 1: to be ready for that.
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Speaker 2: And all around the same time, we in Australia are
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Speaker 2: looking at the defense budget saying we're not doing what
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Speaker 2: the rest of the world is doing, with two percent
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Speaker 2: behind where NATO got to a couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 2: the US and looking at us saying lift g game. Well,
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Speaker 2: our defense Department's putting out a taxpayer funded defense cookbook,
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Speaker 2: as if this is something I'm going to save us.
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Speaker 2: I thought this was a joke initially, but Am Marshall
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Speaker 2: Leon Phillips is on the record saying he believes in
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Speaker 2: the incredible power of food. I don't know about that.
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Speaker 2: I'm much more interested in the power of missiles and
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Speaker 2: frigates and f thirty fives. I mean, really and truly,
21:20
Speaker 2: this is not a homeic class Kily. This is crazy,
21:24
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 7: I mean, at least Peter didn't have the guts to
21:27
Speaker 7: actually say you need to get rid of this complete
21:29
Speaker 7: woke agenda with the ADF. We know that Richard Mules
21:32
Speaker 7: has also said that they're going to be getting rid of,
21:34
Speaker 7: you know, twenty five to forty star generals as well.
21:37
Speaker 7: This is ridiculous and the cost of it. Are meant
21:40
Speaker 7: to be working on domestic missiles, our production of domestic missiles.
21:45
Speaker 7: I don't know how long it takes an egg to boil,
21:46
Speaker 7: but I tell you what, it's probably. You know, they've
21:48
Speaker 7: got to get on and do these missiles.
21:50
Speaker 2: It's nuts. I'll over there, move on. Thank you both
21:53
Speaker 2: for your time. Let's go now to that announcement today
21:56
Speaker 2: or the release of her report to the government. Special
21:59
Speaker 2: Envoy Anti Semitism, Gillian Siegel, she gave. The report to
22:03
Speaker 2: the government includes a whole host of recommendations, including the
22:07
Speaker 2: cutting of funding to universities and arts bodies who fail
22:10
Speaker 2: to crack down on anti Jewish bigotry. It also recommends
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Speaker 2: deportations of people who hate Jews out of Australia. However,
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Speaker 2: the PM has refused to commit to any of the recommendations,
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Speaker 2: despite the fact that they came from his own handpicked.
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Speaker 4: Envoy Will now carefully consider the report recommendations. There's a
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Speaker 4: number of things in here that we are doing. There's
22:35
Speaker 4: a number of things can be implemented quickly. There are
22:37
Speaker 4: a number of things that will require work over a
22:42
Speaker 4: period of time.
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Speaker 2: Joing me now, past chair of the Parliament's Foreign Affairs
22:46
Speaker 2: and Defense Committee, former Labor MP Michael Danby, will tell
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Speaker 2: you what, Michael. All these recommendations like cutting like cutting
22:53
Speaker 2: of funding to arts bodies, universities, all the people that
22:58
Speaker 2: hate the Jews, We've seen that at many events. You've
23:01
Speaker 2: got the deportation of people who are biggots against Jews
23:06
Speaker 2: out of this country, the removal of hate preachers. You know,
23:09
Speaker 2: none of this requires special laws, none of these needs
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Speaker 2: special powers. It all could have been done up until
23:14
Speaker 2: now it hasn't been. So they get a report today
23:18
Speaker 2: saying it must happen, it's urgent, get on with it.
23:21
Speaker 2: And all we got then today was yet more words.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a bit like the review here in Victoria,
23:29
Speaker 12: isn't it, Peter, that the premier is going to do.
23:32
Speaker 12: People know what to do. I mean, Tony Burke doesn't
23:35
Speaker 12: have to send Hassan Australia. Hesbilla's portraitist to the Venice
23:41
Speaker 12: Bienali to represent Australia. If we're talking about arts funding.
23:44
Speaker 12: It's nice that the Prime Minister and the report talk
23:48
Speaker 12: about enforcing the law with Australian universities, but as you said,
23:53
Speaker 12: they could have done that a lot earlier, and we
23:56
Speaker 12: were the one who actually stopped having an inquiry like
23:58
Speaker 12: they did in the United States. Remember the famous Stefanic
24:01
Speaker 12: interrogations of the leading universities. We should have done that.
24:06
Speaker 12: So I think Burke and Albert realize that this bigotry
24:12
Speaker 12: has got out of control, as as you advised more
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Speaker 12: than a year ago, and they will agree to some
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Speaker 12: of these recommendations, but at least Siegeler has put them up.
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Speaker 12: I'm worried that it's a civic society problem. How could
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Speaker 12: it be, Peter that here in Melbourne, the state member
24:34
Speaker 12: for Melbourne, Ellen Sandal, the head of the toxic Green,
24:39
Speaker 12: bigoted racist party, has not said a word about the
24:45
Speaker 12: attack on the synagogue in her electorate. Where is she?
24:48
Speaker 12: Where are the toxic Greens? How can they possibly be
24:51
Speaker 12: elected at the next elections. Liberal and Labor should both
24:54
Speaker 12: make sure that we preference against them. And it's not
24:58
Speaker 12: just what the Prime Minister does or recommendation that reporting.
25:01
Speaker 12: It is up to all of us to take action.
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Speaker 2: I know, but people take their accues from the government,
25:08
Speaker 2: you know that. I mean, look at the footage I
25:11
Speaker 2: played again tonight of Tony Burke the day after the atrocities.
25:16
Speaker 2: So October eight, we're talking about people celebrating in his
25:20
Speaker 2: own electorate what had happened in Israel before Israel had
25:23
Speaker 2: fired one rocket in retaliation, and he says, oh, we've
25:27
Speaker 2: got to have some historical context about all of this.
25:31
Speaker 2: You know, he's now in charge of delivering us back
25:35
Speaker 2: our country that used to not see race and religion
25:39
Speaker 2: as points of division. But it's all been licensed for
25:43
Speaker 2: a year and a half. Now, how do you turn
25:45
Speaker 2: this around? And how long, Michael, do we give them
25:48
Speaker 2: to put this report into action? How long do you
25:50
Speaker 2: give the government?
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Speaker 12: Well, I don't give them any time at all. They
25:55
Speaker 12: should should implement some of the recommendations straight away. It's
25:59
Speaker 12: so alarming. They're obviously not Bob Hawk or Kim Beasley
26:03
Speaker 12: or even Bill Shorten or Julia Gillard, are they? Peter.
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Speaker 12: I mean, you showed footage that's got nothing to do
26:09
Speaker 12: with the Jewish issue. Of all of those black clad
26:13
Speaker 12: men are having a festival parade, a really threatening parade
26:18
Speaker 12: around Saint Patrick's Cathedral. The old wisdom is it starts
26:21
Speaker 12: with the Jews and then everyone else suffers. So I
26:25
Speaker 12: hope the new police commissioner in Victoria is monitoring the
26:29
Speaker 12: social media from now on and we don't have any
26:32
Speaker 12: more attacks like that we did at the Mizzenon cafe
26:35
Speaker 12: on Friday night, because the next thing that will happen
26:38
Speaker 12: the landlight in the sand they'll have to draw under
26:40
Speaker 12: it is if someone is killed, and I fear that's
26:43
Speaker 12: that's coming.
26:46
Speaker 2: What about the comments today at of New South Wales
26:48
Speaker 2: from the Director of Public Schools that it's not up
26:50
Speaker 2: to them to police pro Palestinian t shirts or cafeas
26:55
Speaker 2: in the classroom. Now the department has its own code.
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Speaker 2: It says we don't support or can dine any encouragement
27:02
Speaker 2: by staff for students to adopt political or religious views.
27:07
Speaker 2: But again this is handling and this is someone else's problem,
27:10
Speaker 2: they say. But they're not going to step up and
27:12
Speaker 2: deal with it themselves.
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Speaker 12: See, this is the problem of having so many weak
27:18
Speaker 12: and woke bureaucrats, either magistrates to let people out on
27:21
Speaker 12: bail or these pathetic New South Wales Education commissioners. Chris
27:27
Speaker 12: Mins is the Premier of New South Wales and if
27:29
Speaker 12: he gives them an instruction they are to obey it.
27:33
Speaker 12: All of this problem got worse in Australia and worse
27:35
Speaker 12: for all Australian It's not just the small Jewish committee
27:38
Speaker 12: of one hundred and twenty thousand people. When the cops failed
27:41
Speaker 12: to do what they instinctively should have done on the
27:45
Speaker 12: ninth of October, that defamed Australia all around the world.
27:49
Speaker 12: When those people were standing on the steps yelling out
27:52
Speaker 12: gas the Jews. I don't believe it was where's the Jews?
27:54
Speaker 12: I've listened to it myself many times. They admitted that
27:59
Speaker 12: it was gas the who they would have had to
28:01
Speaker 12: go out to the western suburbs and arrest some of
28:03
Speaker 12: the people who said it because it's incitement to violence.
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Speaker 2: Ill over there. Thank you, Michael Jami. Before we go
28:11
Speaker 2: to the break too. Kelly Katzimanas, who's my wonderful guest
28:13
Speaker 2: on Thursday, Love and best wishes to her husband who's
28:16
Speaker 2: got a bit of a health battle on and I
28:18
Speaker 2: know he watches the show. So we're thinking of him
28:20
Speaker 2: here on kredline or after the break protests are now
28:23
Speaker 2: becoming a weekly occurrence. Well not under my watch as
28:26
Speaker 2: a Victorian opposition leader. If elected, he'll stamp it out.
28:29
Speaker 2: He's got a plan, he joins me after the break clast.
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Speaker 2: You won't believe the sort of training that's now being
28:34
Speaker 2: prioritized for childcare workers, all about gender and not the
28:38
Speaker 2: safety of children. Welcome back still to come, no wonder
28:46
Speaker 2: we have a crisis in childcare when gender identity is
28:49
Speaker 2: being prioritized, have a health and safety training for children.
28:54
Speaker 2: The first is in Melbernie, and I can tell you
28:56
Speaker 2: people have had a gut full of the now weekly
28:59
Speaker 2: protest that attract the usual rabble of anti Israel thugs
29:03
Speaker 2: right out of activist central casting most weekends. After the
29:07
Speaker 2: events of last weekend caused headlines all around the world,
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Speaker 2: and our reputation is one of anti Semitism and weak
29:16
Speaker 2: government responses. I'm pleased to say we haven't got that
29:19
Speaker 2: today from the Victorian opposition leader who's released his own
29:22
Speaker 2: plan to restore law and order. And I'm pleased to
29:25
Speaker 2: say it was about action, not more words. The leader
29:30
Speaker 2: at brad Batton joins me, now you know, I don't
29:33
Speaker 2: know whether it's your police experience or whether you're like
29:35
Speaker 2: everybody else down here who said I've just had enough.
29:38
Speaker 2: I've had enough of the words, the handwrigging, the talk.
29:41
Speaker 2: But this platform you'll put out today's got a lot
29:45
Speaker 2: of people talking, a lot of notice. Take us through
29:47
Speaker 2: what you want to see happen.
29:49
Speaker 9: Obviously we know Melbourn's out of control. We've seen it
29:51
Speaker 9: too much. And I can speak from the former police
29:52
Speaker 9: officer having to be involved in protest frontline at the frontline,
29:56
Speaker 9: or a small business owner whose businesses get closed because
29:59
Speaker 9: these protests happening so often. So we've actually said we're
30:02
Speaker 9: going to come out with a registration system. So we're
30:04
Speaker 9: going to say to people, if you register your event
30:06
Speaker 9: the Victoria or the protest, the Victoria police can work
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Speaker 9: with you to make sure you've still got your freedom
30:10
Speaker 9: of speech. It's just a matter of location. Are they
30:13
Speaker 9: going down the same route every time? Is it going
30:15
Speaker 9: to be safe, what police resources? It keeps the community safer.
30:19
Speaker 9: Those that don't opt to do that, which is generally
30:22
Speaker 9: going to be the ones we're seeing quite regularly at
30:23
Speaker 9: the moment, then they'll lose some of their rights for
30:26
Speaker 9: that protest, and we'll be saying, well, the Victoria Police
30:29
Speaker 9: will have move on laws to meet, keep the streets running,
30:31
Speaker 9: keep businesses open, and make sure people get the opportunity
30:34
Speaker 9: to live their normal lives without the interference we're seeing
30:37
Speaker 9: every day. And there's going to be pretty strong penalties
30:40
Speaker 9: if you don't abide by those move on laws or
30:42
Speaker 9: you return to an exclusion zone.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think we tolerate anymore these protesters pro
30:49
Speaker 2: Palestinian and other activists who want to stand outside a
30:52
Speaker 2: synagogue or want to as we saw on Friday night,
30:56
Speaker 2: go after an Israeli owned business. I mean, go there
30:59
Speaker 2: and pro to somewhere fair enough in the city, use
31:02
Speaker 2: your registration model, but not where it's meant to be
31:06
Speaker 2: intimidation and threatening behavior. I mean, that's where I think
31:09
Speaker 2: we all draw a line.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a big difference between standing outside of the
31:12
Speaker 9: Victorian Parliament with a sign that says I'm protesting X.
31:15
Speaker 9: We've got no problem with that. Actually, I encourage that,
31:17
Speaker 9: that's part of our democracy. I do have an issue
31:20
Speaker 9: when they go to a restaurant and they're targeting people
31:23
Speaker 9: because of a faith or because of their back or.
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Speaker 2: A synagoge on Friday night synagogue.
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Speaker 9: Was offensive and we've seen this too often now. And
31:30
Speaker 9: if this was a once off story, I'd be glad
31:32
Speaker 9: to come on Sky and say it's a once off
31:33
Speaker 9: and moving on. It's not. This is every week we
31:36
Speaker 9: are seeing people who are coming in and the Jewish
31:39
Speaker 9: community genuinely have fear coming back into mel Okay.
31:41
Speaker 2: So I spoke of the night with Charlie Perscina, former
31:43
Speaker 2: police detective Victorian police detective, who says, when we lost
31:47
Speaker 2: the move on laws in twenty fifteen when they were
31:49
Speaker 2: repealed by Daniel Andrews, police have had a really hard
31:52
Speaker 2: job ever since to maintain control. You're committing to put them.
31:56
Speaker 9: Back in, they will come back in and then things
31:59
Speaker 9: like where we're seeing people super glue themselves to the roads,
32:01
Speaker 9: we'll be making sure the police have the powers to
32:03
Speaker 9: move them on. If they don't move on, they will
32:06
Speaker 9: be arrested. It's not an if or a but it's
32:09
Speaker 9: a definite they'll be arrested.
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Speaker 2: What do you make of those reports this week though,
32:12
Speaker 2: that the police had told this is high up police
32:15
Speaker 2: officials had told the police on the ground who was
32:19
Speaker 2: sitting around the corner in a riot squad, don't confront
32:23
Speaker 2: the protesters. I know that the new commissioners having a
32:25
Speaker 2: review into that. What do you say to.
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Speaker 9: That, Well, I say to the new Chief Commissioner, Mike Bush,
32:29
Speaker 9: you need to come out and tell.
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Speaker 12: The public what you're doing.
32:30
Speaker 9: Because he's still yet to front the media on this.
32:33
Speaker 9: I think that's a bigger issue. He is the leader
32:35
Speaker 9: of that organization. If he can't do it, where's the
32:38
Speaker 9: police minister to come out and explain? If these police
32:41
Speaker 9: officers were told that, because I can tell you on
32:43
Speaker 9: the front line, there wouldn't have been a copper inside
32:45
Speaker 9: that van who says I don't want to go and
32:47
Speaker 9: protect the community. They would have been directed from management,
32:50
Speaker 9: whether that's from policy from the government or a decision
32:53
Speaker 9: by the new Chief commissioner.
32:54
Speaker 2: Let's go to childcare because that was a huge issue
32:56
Speaker 2: obviously last week in Victoria, and you know ramifications will
32:59
Speaker 2: be there for families for months and months. Seventy charges
33:03
Speaker 2: one man a childcare center. There is the worry that
33:07
Speaker 2: some twelve hundred kids are also likely to be at risk.
33:11
Speaker 2: I spoke to Jess Wilson, your shadow minister. I think
33:14
Speaker 2: it was Monday, and she was demanding that Parliament is recalled,
33:18
Speaker 2: that you stand ready outs the opposition to pass whatever
33:22
Speaker 2: laws are required to give parents the confidence that the
33:26
Speaker 2: people that are in these childcare centers don't have a
33:29
Speaker 2: rap sheet like this bloke allegedly like this bloke. What's
33:33
Speaker 2: been the response from the government.
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Speaker 9: Well, we haven't had a response from the government. They're
33:36
Speaker 9: not really talking to us at all. We're saying we
33:39
Speaker 9: stand ready to bring the parliament back. It doesn't have
33:41
Speaker 9: to be the entire parliament, it needs to be enough
33:43
Speaker 9: members there to have a qorum because this is too important.
33:45
Speaker 9: It's not about parliament, it's not about politics. This is
33:47
Speaker 9: about protecting kids. The government's answer is another task force.
33:51
Speaker 9: They've come out now with their terms of reference and
33:54
Speaker 9: I think one of the most offensive things I've seen
33:56
Speaker 9: in this terms of reference is they're saying now that
33:57
Speaker 9: we need to refer back to the twenty twenty two
34:00
Speaker 9: Ombinson Report. We don't need to refer back to it.
34:03
Speaker 9: We need action, and the way to fix that is
34:05
Speaker 9: bring back parliament and implement the recommendations two.
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Speaker 2: What's going on?
34:10
Speaker 9: Why would you need a review? As a parent of
34:12
Speaker 9: two daughters, mine are obviously older. I couldn't imagine what
34:17
Speaker 9: these families are going through. And then to hear that
34:19
Speaker 9: a government says, oh, we're going to review our review
34:21
Speaker 9: which reviewed another review from the past. When we're sitting
34:24
Speaker 9: here at the moment and our babies are getting tests
34:27
Speaker 9: for STIs, this in itself is absolutely offensive. The government
34:32
Speaker 9: have no excuse. Bring the parliament.
34:34
Speaker 2: Back all right, just before we go bad polls, lots
34:36
Speaker 2: of internal fighting. Convince victorians you can turn this around. Yeah,
34:40
Speaker 2: we can turn it around.
34:41
Speaker 9: We've got a long way to go to the next election,
34:43
Speaker 9: and poles do come and go, and we've seen it
34:45
Speaker 9: in history. We've been behind before. I'm confident though, we're
34:48
Speaker 9: going to be going out there and talking about the
34:49
Speaker 9: things that are really important. We're already talking about law
34:52
Speaker 9: and order with break bail or face jail because we
34:54
Speaker 9: don't want to see offenders, violent offenders go back on
34:56
Speaker 9: the street. We know that housing is a massive crisis,
34:59
Speaker 9: and we've all already said that we'll scrap the stamp
35:01
Speaker 9: duty for all first home buyers up to a million dollars.
35:04
Speaker 9: That will have a big impact and put money back
35:06
Speaker 9: in people's pockets. And we know that energy is a
35:08
Speaker 9: massive issue here in Victoria, and David Davis is doing
35:11
Speaker 9: a great job in getting our policy ready so the
35:14
Speaker 9: community can know that not only will keep the lights on,
35:16
Speaker 9: we'll keep the prices down.
35:17
Speaker 2: All right, keep talking to us because this is the
35:19
Speaker 2: stuff people we're in a focus on. Great, Thanks Beta,
35:22
Speaker 2: all right. Sticking with that current childcare crisis, Australian Newspapers
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Speaker 2: Today has shockingly revealed the government sanctioned training for childcare
35:30
Speaker 2: workers prioritizes lessons on gender identity before they learn about
35:34
Speaker 2: child health and safety. The training materials to students must
35:38
Speaker 2: understand how individuals affected by and I quote culture raised, ethnicity, disability,
35:43
Speaker 2: gender and gender identification. I mean this is for childcare,
35:47
Speaker 2: intergenerational disadvantage. It says family types, sexual orientation and the
35:52
Speaker 2: sexual identity and socioeconomic circumstances. Joining me now, the Australian's
35:58
Speaker 2: Education editor and Natasha bitter Well, I don't know you
36:03
Speaker 2: go through that list and we're talking, Natasha about kids
36:06
Speaker 2: that are two and one and a half and babies
36:09
Speaker 2: in nappies. Surely looking after the health and safety of
36:12
Speaker 2: these kids is paramount to their sexual orientation as a toddler.
36:20
Speaker 6: Yes, Peter, this woke ideology has infected every part of
36:24
Speaker 6: our education system and we've all become very used to
36:27
Speaker 6: this being in university courses has no place at the
36:31
Speaker 6: top of the list of modules for students learning how
36:36
Speaker 6: to look after children. Safety is paramounts. Safety should be
36:39
Speaker 6: the top the first thing that should be required as
36:43
Speaker 6: a first aid certificate. They should be learning what to
36:45
Speaker 6: do if a toddler is choking on a piece of apple,
36:49
Speaker 6: how to change a nappy safely. However, you know, the
36:54
Speaker 6: ideology has gone right through the childcare training courses. So
36:59
Speaker 6: is there any one that we have a shortage of
37:01
Speaker 6: very valuable staff working in this sector when they have
37:04
Speaker 6: to plow through these sorts of training modules and often
37:07
Speaker 6: write essays on it as well.
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Speaker 2: I was shocked when I read your story today, Natasha,
37:14
Speaker 2: because I had no idea. I just thought all of
37:17
Speaker 2: that sort of basic rudimentary training first day and all
37:22
Speaker 2: of that stuff was there, and this was sort of
37:25
Speaker 2: the value add that the underpinnings were safe. I mean,
37:27
Speaker 2: many many years ago, I was a boarding mistress at
37:29
Speaker 2: a girl's boarding school and I had to have all
37:31
Speaker 2: the certificates and all the training, and these kids were
37:34
Speaker 2: almost adults. But we're talking about babies here.
37:39
Speaker 6: Look, this is serious because in the schooling sector we
37:43
Speaker 6: have much tighter controls than we do in childcare, where
37:46
Speaker 6: the children are at their most vulnerable. Babies cannot walk
37:50
Speaker 6: or talk, they can't communicate if there's a problem. We
37:54
Speaker 6: have very chronic staff shortages right through the childcare sector
37:59
Speaker 6: because frank they'd earn just as much money and have
38:02
Speaker 6: a much easier job working in a shop or flipping
38:05
Speaker 6: burgers or in a call center. I argue that the
38:07
Speaker 6: work that they are doing is some of the most
38:10
Speaker 6: important and valued work in the country. We're not giving
38:14
Speaker 6: them the tools they need to work efficiently. The problem
38:19
Speaker 6: is as a loophole because we are so short staffed
38:22
Speaker 6: in the sector. Trainees can go in without a qualification
38:26
Speaker 6: so long as they are studying and the first item
38:30
Speaker 6: at the top of the agenda is inclusion and diversity,
38:34
Speaker 6: So they could potentially be in a center for three
38:37
Speaker 6: months or six months without any first aid training or skills.
38:41
Speaker 6: Not knowing how to change nappy, not knowing what's safe
38:44
Speaker 6: for children to eat, how to feed them, how they
38:46
Speaker 6: should sleep. These are fundamental issues, and I would argue
38:51
Speaker 6: that we have an emergency in the childcare sector. Given
38:55
Speaker 6: what's happened in Melbourne, this is an emergency and we
38:58
Speaker 6: still have ministers waiting an the months to talk about
39:01
Speaker 6: a national register for childcare staff. We already have national
39:05
Speaker 6: registers of teachers, so any school can look up a
39:08
Speaker 6: potential job seeker and see where they've worked, see if
39:11
Speaker 6: there's been any disciplinary action, if they've been struck off.
39:14
Speaker 6: You can't do that for childcare. I wrote about this
39:18
Speaker 6: two years ago and they still haven't done it.
39:22
Speaker 2: Goodness be and we know the Morcams went child sex registers.
39:26
Speaker 2: We know that other governments have come out in recent
39:29
Speaker 2: days saying they're going to get tough on the permit
39:30
Speaker 2: system for working for children and not allow people who
39:33
Speaker 2: are under investigation, as we saw last weekend in Victoria.
39:37
Speaker 2: A bloke in Horsham now convicted of child sex crimes,
39:41
Speaker 2: but when he was under investigation for two years was
39:43
Speaker 2: still allowed to work in a childcare center. I tell
39:46
Speaker 2: you what all strengths here are. And Natasha keep writing
39:49
Speaker 2: about this, keep exposing it. I'll keep running it here
39:51
Speaker 2: on the show. But I'm indebted to what you put
39:54
Speaker 2: into the paper this morning. Thank you all Right, after
39:56
Speaker 2: the break, We're going to talk to Chris Merritz about
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Speaker 2: the Indigenous Voice Victoria and the billions and billions of
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Speaker 2: compensation that are likely to flow. But first up, I
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Speaker 2: want to get into that shocking inquiry today out of
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Speaker 2: the Queensland CFME Youth Welcome Back coming up in a
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Speaker 2: moment across to London for the migrant fallout and from
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Speaker 2: the visit yesterday of the French president as Britain also
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Speaker 2: prepares for a second state visit from none other than
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Sophie Elsewhere might give out PM some tips here,
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Speaker 2: given how well the UK Labor PM gets along with
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Speaker 2: the Republican US president. But first to the inquiry that
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Speaker 2: it's exposed Queensland CMFU CFM EU for running a violent
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Speaker 2: and misogynistic regime and the former leaders Michael rav Barant
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Speaker 2: Jade Ingram. The report revealed threats, abuse and harassment targeting women,
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Speaker 2: children and opponents. C IFMU administrator Mark Irving called the
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Speaker 2: behavior deplorable and has started giving senior staff the boot, vowing,
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Speaker 2: he says, to end the toxic culture. Let's discuss this
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Speaker 2: now with rule of law institutes. Chris Merrit, Chris, look,
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Speaker 2: this behavior isn't you right. This is how the CFMEU operates.
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Speaker 2: It's how it's operated for years and years and years.
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Speaker 2: So why aren't these met in Jyle? Why don't we
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Speaker 2: shut down the union for good? We did it with
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Speaker 2: the BLF many years ago. Why not now?
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Speaker 13: Well, Hi Peter, it's great to be with you. This
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Speaker 13: is a shocking report, but it's shocking for reasons which
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Speaker 13: you might find a little bit surprising. This is not
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Speaker 13: a report of an independent tribunal. It's not a report
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Speaker 13: of a judicial tribunal.
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Speaker 2: This is a.
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Speaker 13: Private report commissioned by the administrator of the CFMEU by
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Speaker 13: a Sydney barrister. It outlines accusations that of their nature
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Speaker 13: are very very serious. It accuses to former officials of
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Speaker 13: the union of possibly directing a campaign of violence. Those
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Speaker 13: officials are named in the report. The report also then
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Speaker 13: goes on to say that the Sydney barrister who produced
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Speaker 13: this report has not spoken to those two officials. It
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Speaker 13: makes a series of recommendations, but the one that's clearly
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Speaker 13: missing is sending these accusations. And that's what they are.
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Speaker 13: They're simply accusations to the police for further investigation. These
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Speaker 13: are very serious accusations. What I'm worried about is now
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Speaker 13: that they've been made public and politicians have reached conclusions,
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Speaker 13: very public conclusions about this, it could have an adverse
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Speaker 13: impact on what is clearly foreseeable now, which is criminal
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Speaker 13: proceedings before a real court. This is not the way
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Speaker 13: proper process should be conducted.
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Speaker 2: You make some mention about comments from politicians. I think
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Speaker 2: I've got a set of comments from Jared Bligh, who
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Speaker 2: is the Deputy premier in Queensland. Have we got them yep.
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Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to those.
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Speaker 14: A daughter of a workplace health and safety inspector intimidated
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Speaker 14: and bullied at a gymnasium. They found the details of
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Speaker 14: family members. They threatened people physically sexually said a bullet
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Speaker 14: has your name on it.
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Speaker 2: All right? That underscoredure point there, Chris. I'll leave that there.
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Speaker 2: I want to go to the Voice now because Victoria
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Speaker 2: is going to go it alone despite Victorians in the
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Speaker 2: referendum voting against the Voice. The state government is going
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Speaker 2: to bring in a version of its own. They are
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Speaker 2: going to also look at treaties and I say treaties
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Speaker 2: with a plural right across the state and the previous
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Speaker 2: says she hasn't ruled out compensation. They're not calling it
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Speaker 2: compensation anymore. They're not calling it reparations anymore. This is
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Speaker 2: the the word salad game that goes on. It's now
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Speaker 2: called redress. Now, this redress could be in the form
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Speaker 2: of billions and billions of dollars. And what's this about, Chris.
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Speaker 13: It's again about a lack of proper process. Redress is
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Speaker 13: one of the recommendations in this massive report that's been
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Speaker 13: produced by the Eurook Commission. But those recommendations rest on
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Speaker 13: findings of fact. And if we can believe a report,
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Speaker 13: a very important report that was published in the Melbourne Age,
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Speaker 13: not all of those findings of fact are supported by
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Speaker 13: a majority of the commissioners, the your Rook commissioners who
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Speaker 13: signed off on this report, a majority actually does not
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Speaker 13: support some of those findings of facts. So if the
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Speaker 13: findings of fact only, if some of the findings of
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Speaker 13: fact are only supported by a minority of the commissioners,
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Speaker 13: how on earth can any recommendation be given any credence.
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Speaker 13: Now that's before you hop into the procedure used by
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Speaker 13: this commission, which is ahistorical in that it did not
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Speaker 13: test assertions that have been made to the Commission. Now,
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Speaker 13: it did not seek the other side of the argument.
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Speaker 2: And it didn't look at any real primary source. So
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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of it is an oral tradition.
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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm not saying the oral tradition isn't wrong,
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Speaker 2: but it's very hard to declare it factual without any
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Speaker 2: of the steps you've just spoken about. Thank you, Chris. Well.
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Speaker 2: I know we'll come back to this time and time again.
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Speaker 2: Of course, if we're going to have treaties at a
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Speaker 2: local government level and a state government level, and god forbid, federally,
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Speaker 2: this is not going to go off the agenda. Thank you,
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Speaker 2: Chris Merritt. All right, quick break back in a moment.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. Let's go to the UK. Now. French President
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Speaker 2: Emmanuel Macron and his wife have been in Britain with
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Speaker 2: deal expected to be thrashed down over the immigrant crisis
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Speaker 2: that's unfolding on Britain's shores, with a lot of the migrants,
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Speaker 2: of course, crossing the channel from France. There's a new
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Speaker 2: record there too, twenty thousand migrants crossing the channel illegally
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Speaker 2: in just the last six months. Kiss Darma and the
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Speaker 2: French leader are expected to unveil a one in one
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Speaker 2: out returns policy that will give Labor the power to
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Speaker 2: send up to fifty migrant boats a week back to France,
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Speaker 2: juming out to talk through this all. This is very
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Speaker 2: reminiscent of Operation Sovereign Borders of a version News Corps
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Speaker 2: European correspondent so over elswhere well, so as I said,
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Speaker 2: it's got a lot here about Operations Sovereign Borders, but
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Speaker 2: it is a crisis and I'll tell you what. The
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Speaker 2: French can't wash their hands of this, can.
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Speaker 15: They great to be with you, Pete and know they
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Speaker 15: certainly can't wash their hands of this. President Macron is
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Speaker 15: on his third day here in the UK for this
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Speaker 15: state visit and this has been top of the agen.
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Speaker 15: It's been an extreme headache for Sakia Starmer because not
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Speaker 15: forgetting he abandoned the Rwanda plan when he came into
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Speaker 15: office in July last year, and the illegal boat migrants
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Speaker 15: coming into this country continue to soar. So it's expected
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Speaker 15: today that the two of them, the French President and
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Speaker 15: Sakias Starmer, will have a press conference later this afternoon
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Speaker 15: local time and hopefully ideally struck to try and resolve
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Speaker 15: this crisis once and for all.
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Speaker 2: He said in a speech not so long ago that
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Speaker 2: Britain was becoming an island of strangers. Now he got
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Speaker 2: a lot of support for those comments, because it's rare
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Speaker 2: we see from a labor politician calling out that the
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Speaker 2: cultural aspect of this mass illegal migration. But he's sort
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Speaker 2: of backtracked on that, hasn't it now.
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Speaker 15: He certainly did, Peter, because he realized how controversial that was,
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Speaker 15: so he walked back those comments recently, which again just
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Speaker 15: inflame the situation. But he has not got control of this,
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Speaker 15: There's no doubt about that. It's dominating headlines day in
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Speaker 15: day out. Here we're seeing the illegal boat migrants rolling
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Speaker 15: into this country with really nothing to stop them. So
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Speaker 15: they really have to come to some resolution today because
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Speaker 15: this meeting, this three day visit, is at a critical time.
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Speaker 2: Peter, Yes, and of course the King and the Queen.
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Speaker 2: We're turning it on the British diplomatic sort of soft
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Speaker 2: glove was there. We expect the same thing to happen
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Speaker 2: for President Trump, who will make his second official state
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Speaker 2: visit to the United Kingdom. Now this is quite unusual too,
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Speaker 2: fully royal pomp and ceremony visits, and we know that's
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Speaker 2: probably going to scratch Trump's belly. He's already got a
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Speaker 2: deal or kissed Arma's already got a deal on tariffs.
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Speaker 2: What can you give poor old Anthony or Albanesi in
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Speaker 2: terms of tips. We don't have a royal family here,
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Speaker 2: we can roll. What can we do to get on
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Speaker 2: the good side of Donald Trump? Really?
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Speaker 15: Sekia Starmer has tried to keep this relationship between the
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Speaker 15: two in very good Nick and he's managed to reduce
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Speaker 15: the tariffs here on various industries, which has been a
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Speaker 15: win for Britain, and he said it will save jobs,
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Speaker 15: but it remains to be seen if the same can
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Speaker 15: be done in Australia. So he's playing this relationship Peter
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Speaker 15: extremely carefully because he knows the damage that these high
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Speaker 15: tariffs can cause the various industries here in the UK.
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Speaker 2: All right, before people say to me, Peter, we do
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Speaker 2: have a real family, Yes, I understand, but not in residence.
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Speaker 2: That's the difference. Sophie, enjoy Scotland. I'll catch up with
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Speaker 2: you next week, all right, have a lovely weekend. Everybody,
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Speaker 2: see you on Monday night.