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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. A beautiful young mom of
- 0:13Speaker 1: three on her way dropping her children at school, like
- 0:20Speaker 1: many of us do every single morning, when a car
- 0:26Speaker 1: rams into her. Of course, she stops and the driver
- 0:32Speaker 1: gets out of the vehicle and comes around to mommy,
- 0:37Speaker 1: holds up a gun, bam, and shoots her dead. That's right,
- 0:46Speaker 1: this beautiful young mom just on her way to drop
- 0:51Speaker 1: off pickup when she is rammed. She didn't rum the
- 0:55Speaker 1: other person to throw them into road rage. She was
- 0:59Speaker 1: rammed and then the driver gets out, comes right to
- 1:04Speaker 1: her window with the children in the car, and shoots
- 1:10Speaker 1: mommy dead. Why do we even have jails if a
- 1:17Speaker 1: mother with children in the car cannot be protected at
- 1:23Speaker 1: school drop off. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
- 1:30Speaker 1: and Sirius XM one eleven. First of all, take a
- 1:33Speaker 1: listen to this Buffalo police telling us that a woman
- 1:35Speaker 1: was shot and killed this morning near rich Lawn and
- 1:38Speaker 1: Shawnee Avenue. Now that's just blocks from ECMC and in
- 1:42Speaker 1: front of a school bus stop. This was around eight
- 1:45Speaker 1: thirty this morning. I spoke with family members who say
- 1:47Speaker 1: it was their loved one. Kara Hudson who was killed.
- 1:51Speaker 1: They tell me the young mother was shot in her
- 1:53Speaker 1: car in front of her three children at approximately eight
- 1:56Speaker 1: thirty yesterday morning at the intersection of Shanni and rich
- 2:00Speaker 1: Lawn in the City of Buffalo. Police officers in the
- 2:03Speaker 1: district actually pulled up on the location observed an incident
- 2:07Speaker 1: that had occurred, had already occurred. A vehicle left that scene.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Police officers made an attempt to stop that vehicle. The
- 2:15Speaker 1: vehicle had refused to pull over for our officers. It
- 2:18Speaker 1: was a heavily congested area, traffic area. The vehicle, from
- 2:23Speaker 1: the information I have, got on the thirty three Expressway
- 2:25Speaker 1: going in the wrong direction. Due to a lot of reasons,
- 2:28Speaker 1: the officers lost sight of the vehicle. They were able
- 2:32Speaker 1: to evade. What reasons? What reasons? Why do you lose
- 2:37Speaker 1: sight of the vehicle? Every time I see a cop
- 2:40Speaker 1: car there, foy like a bat out of hell? How
- 2:44Speaker 1: did they lose the vehicle? Okay, We've got to bring
- 2:48Speaker 1: that down for a moment, because the cops are not
- 2:50Speaker 1: the killer. The cops are trying to catch the killer.
- 2:53Speaker 1: So before I go off on them at the pickup line,
- 2:59Speaker 1: I'm still trying to get that through in my head.
- 3:02Speaker 1: So you've got this mom of three minding her own business,
- 3:06Speaker 1: shot dead, and the guy, just to top it all off,
- 3:10Speaker 1: gets away. You were hearing our friends at wk W
- 3:14Speaker 1: along with the Buffalo Police Commissioner Joseph Grimalslia. Nothing he
- 3:21Speaker 1: or the reporter is saying is making me feel any
- 3:25Speaker 1: better again. Thank you for being with us. You were
- 3:29Speaker 1: just hearing our friends describing this with me an all
- 3:31Speaker 1: star panel to make sense of what we know right now.
- 3:34Speaker 1: But first I want to go to Emmy Award winning
- 3:37Speaker 1: reporter Investigative reporter Christy Missouri. Christie, thank you for being
- 3:40Speaker 1: with us. Explain to me. Where was Kiera when she
- 3:45Speaker 1: was gunned down? I know she's in her car, I
- 3:47Speaker 1: know that much. How close had she gotten to drop off?
- 3:49Speaker 1: What can you tell me? She's right in the residential
- 3:52Speaker 1: areas of public school. Just like schools across the country,
- 3:56Speaker 1: they are plopped in the middle of resident so it
- 4:01Speaker 1: wasn't a highly trafficked area, but it is a few
- 4:04Speaker 1: blocks away. Okay, wait, well, hold hold on, hold on,
- 4:07Speaker 1: Christy Missouri. I don't know how often you are around
- 4:12Speaker 1: a school, elementary school, high school, and middle school. It
- 4:16Speaker 1: doesn't matter because if you go by at ten thirty
- 4:19Speaker 1: in the morning, it'll look like no mansalind. But if
- 4:21Speaker 1: you're there between seven and eight thirty, you might as
- 4:25Speaker 1: well be parked on one oh one outside of La
- 4:29Speaker 1: Okay because it gets crazy at drop off and pick up,
- 4:33Speaker 1: which in my mind makes this even worse. And another
- 4:37Speaker 1: thing I want to go to Julie Gates joining us
- 4:41Speaker 1: twenty nine years in law enforcement. Nineteen of those is
- 4:46Speaker 1: crime scene the investigator forensic Science program coordinator at Southern Crescent. Julie,
- 4:51Speaker 1: thank you for being with us, Thank you for having me.
- 4:53Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that you're familiar with the top Mom Casey,
- 4:57Speaker 1: Anthony case and I have been to the local many,
- 5:01Speaker 1: many countless times where first of all, where the baby
- 5:08Speaker 1: Killy Anthony, where she disappeared. That's the Anthony's home, and
- 5:13Speaker 1: right and around the corner, so very quiet could de
- 5:17Speaker 1: sac as I would call it, is a cul de
- 5:18Speaker 1: sac and hardly any cars. And I've been there at
- 5:23Speaker 1: all times of the day and night. Then you come
- 5:26Speaker 1: out to the exit and entrance to that. You know
- 5:29Speaker 1: a lot of times neighborhoods will have oh here we
- 5:32Speaker 1: are twin pines. You know that's the name of the suburb,
- 5:36Speaker 1: come out and you make one turn, and it's like,
- 5:41Speaker 1: as I said, you're on the one I want it
- 5:42Speaker 1: at rush hour because there is I believe it's either
- 5:47Speaker 1: an elementary or a middle school right there and ops
- 5:51Speaker 1: by the way, Julie, right across the street from that
- 5:53Speaker 1: school is where Achille's remains were thrown away in a
- 5:58Speaker 1: trash bag. And I'm just kind of a swamp woods
- 6:00Speaker 1: the area across from the school. What I'm saying is, Julie,
- 6:05Speaker 1: it matters to me that this goes down in a
- 6:08Speaker 1: residential neighborhood near a public school pickup drop off, because
- 6:15Speaker 1: there's no telling how many people could have been shot, Julie,
- 6:19Speaker 1: including children exactly. I mean, you're in a residential area,
- 6:23Speaker 1: like you said, with schools. If he you know, just
- 6:27Speaker 1: started shooting randomly, you know, several times and killing where
- 6:31Speaker 1: those bullets could have flown. And another thing, speaking of children, Julie,
- 6:36Speaker 1: when we see a murderer like this, very rarely their
- 6:42Speaker 1: murders take place in front of little children. Perpetrators killers
- 6:47Speaker 1: usually commit a crime like this in secret where nobody
- 6:54Speaker 1: can see them, much less little children having to watch
- 6:57Speaker 1: a murderer go down. Would you agree with that, Julie Gates,
- 7:01Speaker 1: twenty nine years in law enforcement. Yes, no, yes, I would,
- 7:06Speaker 1: even though they're cold blooded sort of, you know, because
- 7:08Speaker 1: they're killing somebody they don't want their children to see
- 7:10Speaker 1: normally in most cases. Well, that leads me to another issue.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Jessica Garth joining me, Chief of the Special Victims Family
- 7:17Speaker 1: Violence Unit, States Attorney's Office, Prince George Merrill and Jessica,
- 7:21Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. I mean, you think
- 7:22Speaker 1: about it. All sorts of crimes, they typically happen in secret.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Nobody wants to get caught, Nobody wants a witness for
- 7:31Speaker 1: Pete's sake. Like I'm child lestation. I would never forget, Jessica,
- 7:36Speaker 1: the probably the first child lestation case I had, because
- 7:40Speaker 1: then we're got around not to ask this question. The
- 7:43Speaker 1: defense said to the child sex crimes officer, and there's
- 7:51Speaker 1: not a witness, is there other than what this little
- 7:53Speaker 1: boy says, Well, I had a field day. Of course,
- 7:57Speaker 1: there's not a witness. You molest children behind closed doors,
- 8:01Speaker 1: nobody knows about it, and you can convince the child
- 8:05Speaker 1: to keep quiet and not tell anybody, either by inducing
- 8:09Speaker 1: them with favors like candy or money or threatening them.
- 8:12Speaker 1: I'll kill your mother or your family if you say anything.
- 8:16Speaker 1: That's why people wear masks when they go into a
- 8:18Speaker 1: bank committa robbery. They do it in secret typically, but
- 8:23Speaker 1: in this case, no, absolutely, Nancy, I mean, this is
- 8:26Speaker 1: exceptionally brazen. As you said, most crimes are not committed
- 8:29Speaker 1: with witnesses. Most people, you know, want to commit crimes
- 8:32Speaker 1: and get away with them, so having witnesses it's certainly
- 8:35Speaker 1: a liability in those cases. I mean, it's particularly callous.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Even people who commit crimes of violence like this, they
- 8:42Speaker 1: often don't do it in places like public schools or
- 8:45Speaker 1: in front of children. Awful, awful, absolutely awful. Christy Missouri
- 8:50Speaker 1: joining me, high profile investigative reporter. How many times was
- 8:56Speaker 1: Kiera shocked? Several times? And I want to talk to
- 9:00Speaker 1: where this school actually was located in this particular neighborhood
- 9:06Speaker 1: of the city of Buffalo. Not all of the kids
- 9:10Speaker 1: are bust in. This is a walkable community public school,
- 9:18Speaker 1: so there really aren't a lot of people dropping off
- 9:21Speaker 1: their kids in maybe like a larger metropolis like Atlanta
- 9:27Speaker 1: or in suburbia. And in fact, Kiara had just driven
- 9:32Speaker 1: around the corner from her mom's house to drop the
- 9:36Speaker 1: kids off. Okay, let me just let that percolate just
- 9:39Speaker 1: one moment. So you're saying that this is you said
- 9:42Speaker 1: the word walkable. I like that word, Christie, Missouri. So
- 9:45Speaker 1: a lot of children could actually walk to this school.
- 9:47Speaker 1: A lot of them do in the city of Buffalo.
- 9:49Speaker 1: So in my mind, that's even worse. The children are
- 9:53Speaker 1: out exposed walking. They're not even in a car, Jackie,
- 9:57Speaker 1: their mom or dad isn't even driving there, and they're
- 10:01Speaker 1: protected behind the walls of a vehicle at least. And
- 10:04Speaker 1: it reminds me, Chrissie, Missouri, of where I grew up
- 10:08Speaker 1: out as it has been called accurately, in the middle
- 10:10Speaker 1: of nothing, far outside the city limits of Making Georgia,
- 10:14Speaker 1: Middle Georgia. We would take a bus to school because
- 10:18Speaker 1: we would be the last pickup to go to school,
- 10:22Speaker 1: and then we would walk home. It's about a mile
- 10:24Speaker 1: and a half home. It was, as you're saying, walkable,
- 10:29Speaker 1: So in front of all these people, all these children
- 10:33Speaker 1: walking to school, and it's in the morning, right, Chrissie,
- 10:36Speaker 1: it was drop off, not pickup. Correct, that's correct. So
- 10:39Speaker 1: rush hour traffic is going on on the interstate, but
- 10:43Speaker 1: this is somewhat insulated from the entrance to the interstate.
- 10:48Speaker 1: That's why it plays such a role as to how
- 10:50Speaker 1: the cops lost him. Ah okay, yes, because I hate
- 10:55Speaker 1: to double down on the cops. They're at least trying
- 10:57Speaker 1: to catch the guy they lost him. Time stories with
- 11:12Speaker 1: Nancy Greece, doctor Carolyn West joining me, Professor Clinical Psychology,
- 11:21Speaker 1: University Washington in Tacoma, Doctor West. That makes it even
- 11:28Speaker 1: more strange because typically, let me rephrase, crime statistics show
- 11:36Speaker 1: that typically murders of this ILK do not go down
- 11:41Speaker 1: at seven thirty eight o'clock am. For I mean, you know,
- 11:46Speaker 1: the dopers and the miscreants typically are still asleep. I mean,
- 11:52Speaker 1: I wouldn't even begin to serve subpoenas in person until
- 11:56Speaker 1: three pm in the afternoon, when the dopers wake up.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Because that's what I'm gonna get with. So this type
- 12:02Speaker 1: of killing, a targeted multiple shooting of one victim, you know,
- 12:09Speaker 1: usually see that at seven forty five in the morning
- 12:12Speaker 1: on the way to drop off, no corns can happen
- 12:16Speaker 1: and not in the public in that way and at
- 12:21Speaker 1: that time of the morning. Julie Gates, your forensic science
- 12:24Speaker 1: program coordinator, would you agree I would yeah, and I
- 12:28Speaker 1: don't know why it's that way. I just know that
- 12:32Speaker 1: it is that way. I know those are the stats. Okay,
- 12:35Speaker 1: let's hear more from the police commissioner. A very short
- 12:38Speaker 1: time later, the officers located the vehicle which is the
- 12:41Speaker 1: vehicle in question, and located evidence inside of that vehicle.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Our detectives immediately started working the case, working up leads,
- 12:49Speaker 1: gaining enough information to get to the point that we
- 12:52Speaker 1: can develop a person of interest that we can actually
- 12:55Speaker 1: get that information out. Our detectives have worked this case NonStop,
- 13:00Speaker 1: which have included other units within our department, not just
- 13:04Speaker 1: our homicide squad, and efforts to locate the individual. We
- 13:07Speaker 1: have also engaged the help of some of our federal
- 13:10Speaker 1: partners with some other avenues to help locate this individual
- 13:15Speaker 1: as well. We are putting out a reward with crime Stoppers.
- 13:18Speaker 1: As you can see, it's a seventy five dollar reward
- 13:21Speaker 1: and anyone with any information we encourage you to call
- 13:24Speaker 1: nine one one. You can also call crime Stoppers if
- 13:27Speaker 1: anybody sees this person, don't attempt to intercede yourself, please
- 13:33Speaker 1: call nine one one. Stay safe. We consider him to
- 13:36Speaker 1: be armed and dangerous. He is a person of interest
- 13:38Speaker 1: in this homicide. We are looking to bring him in
- 13:42Speaker 1: safely and quickly. And again, anybody that has any information
- 13:46Speaker 1: please contact us. That makes me feel good that they
- 13:49Speaker 1: bring in federal partners. And when you have a mom
- 13:52Speaker 1: gun down in the shadow of the drop offline and
- 13:56Speaker 1: the elementary walkable drop off, you better get help and
- 14:03Speaker 1: catch this killer pronto. And I'm glad you told me.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Told me Christy, Missouri, how they lost the guy because
- 14:10Speaker 1: they were winding through neighborhoods. It was not a straight
- 14:14Speaker 1: shot to the interstate where they could put it on
- 14:16Speaker 1: ninety mph Flora and go. So that's how they lost him.
- 14:20Speaker 1: But they're making up for it. They're working this case
- 14:22Speaker 1: twenty four seven. They put out a reward and they
- 14:25Speaker 1: brought in the feds. Now here's the question. How isn't
- 14:30Speaker 1: this played out? Did this young mom, Kiera see it coming?
- 14:38Speaker 1: Take a listen our friends at wk BW. She's just
- 14:42Speaker 1: been trying to get help. I've been with her, going
- 14:44Speaker 1: to police stations. She's been texting me, sending me videos,
- 14:49Speaker 1: giving me her phone password just in case. Montasia Jeter
- 14:52Speaker 1: says her sister Kia Hudson, was in an abusive relationship,
- 14:55Speaker 1: even posting a disturbing video on social media that shows
- 14:58Speaker 1: her getting beaten up. Jeter says her sister was staying
- 15:02Speaker 1: with her mother because she feared for her life. Who's
- 15:04Speaker 1: going to stand at my mom hospital last two days?
- 15:07Speaker 1: And she was going to go to court today because
- 15:09Speaker 1: he was trying to get custody. But she never made
- 15:12Speaker 1: it to court or work. Family members telling me Kara
- 15:14Speaker 1: strapped on a bulletproof vest before leaving the house Wednesday morning,
- 15:18Speaker 1: got in her suv with her three kids and was
- 15:21Speaker 1: on her way to drop them off at school when
- 15:23Speaker 1: she was shot and killed. This beautiful girl, she's just
- 15:27Speaker 1: thirty years old, so afraid that she's going to die
- 15:34Speaker 1: and leave her three children behind to be raised without
- 15:38Speaker 1: a mother, that she actually wore a bullet proof vest
- 15:45Speaker 1: to drop off. I mean, I get irritated if I
- 15:50Speaker 1: forget my hot tea well I go drop the twins
- 15:53Speaker 1: at school. This mom wore a bulletproof Just let that
- 16:02Speaker 1: sink in for a moment. This young mom wore a
- 16:06Speaker 1: bullet proof vest staying at her mother's home, even posting
- 16:16Speaker 1: very upsetting video on social media that shows her being
- 16:22Speaker 1: beaten within an inch of her life. And let me
- 16:26Speaker 1: just ask here at the studio, don't look away at Sydney.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Both of y'all seen the video, Jackie. Yes, Sydney. No, Sydney.
- 16:36Speaker 1: We can't cover cases and investigate them if we don't
- 16:40Speaker 1: look at the evidence. And I've told many Ajurie, don't
- 16:45Speaker 1: look away. Don't so Sydney. Please keep it on mute
- 16:49Speaker 1: as we go forward. But you need to see this video.
- 16:53Speaker 1: When I first looked at it, Jessica Garth, I immediately
- 16:58Speaker 1: clicked off, but then my own words were ringing in
- 17:02Speaker 1: my head that I have said to juries a million
- 17:05Speaker 1: times before. Don't look away. You have to look at it,
- 17:11Speaker 1: just like me. We all have to look at this evidence.
- 17:15Speaker 1: And I've got to tell you something, Jessica. And I
- 17:17Speaker 1: know you've seen plenty of it. As the chief of
- 17:21Speaker 1: the Special Victims Family Violence Unit and Prince George's County,
- 17:24Speaker 1: you've seen plenty of it. But even so, when I
- 17:28Speaker 1: looked at this video, Jessica and almost made me sick.
- 17:31Speaker 1: I actually did look away, but then I made myself
- 17:35Speaker 1: go back and look at it. Did you see it, Jessica, Yes,
- 17:37Speaker 1: I did watch it, and it was exceptionally painful to watch. No,
- 17:41Speaker 1: matter how many of these videos I see you, no
- 17:44Speaker 1: matter how many victims come forward and tell there are stories,
- 17:47Speaker 1: it never really gets any easier. But I you know,
- 17:49Speaker 1: I agree, it's very very important for you know, professionals
- 17:53Speaker 1: and also anybody really to bear witness the type of
- 17:57Speaker 1: violence that can happen in our community. I mean, you know, Jessica,
- 18:01Speaker 1: he chases her across the room and I guess this
- 18:04Speaker 1: is on their nanny cam or their home security surveillance,
- 18:07Speaker 1: but it's inside the home because of previous beatings, had
- 18:12Speaker 1: set up surveillance cameras to document evidence. Christie MISSOURIK, I'm
- 18:18Speaker 1: so glad you interrupted me. That is incredible to me.
- 18:24Speaker 1: Not that incredible not I don't believe it. It lacks credibility.
- 18:28Speaker 1: It means this woman had been beaten so many times
- 18:33Speaker 1: that she put up surveillance video cameras in her home
- 18:40Speaker 1: to video the horrific beatings. And guys, please follow Christie
- 18:46Speaker 1: Missouri's example. If you have a thought, jump in. We
- 18:51Speaker 1: don't care, Jackie, don't roll your eyes. This is not
- 18:55Speaker 1: tea at High Grove with King Charles. Jump in. Christie said,
- 19:00Speaker 1: that is important. That's the kind of detail I would
- 19:03Speaker 1: put that to the jury in my secular third paragraph
- 19:06Speaker 1: and opening statements say, this woman was so afraid of
- 19:09Speaker 1: this purp she installed cameras in her home to catch
- 19:14Speaker 1: the beating so she would have evidence. And she did.
- 19:18Speaker 1: And in that video, Jessica Garth, you see the purp
- 19:23Speaker 1: out of Bidefield chase her across the room and he's
- 19:27Speaker 1: got her down on the ground. She's cowering and he
- 19:31Speaker 1: keeps beating her, and I mean roundhouse punches, I mean
- 19:34Speaker 1: pulling back and bam bam, over and over. At one
- 19:39Speaker 1: point she was on the ground and I saw him
- 19:41Speaker 1: pull back and kick her. I mean, it doesn't get
- 19:43Speaker 1: much worse than that. I saw the video as well.
- 19:46Speaker 1: The beating was horrific. And what I saw him that
- 19:49Speaker 1: there were so many risk factors that indicated that she
- 19:53Speaker 1: was at risk for domestic hermicide. What do you mean
- 19:57Speaker 1: by that, doctor, Caroline West. When we seeping freke severe violence,
- 20:01Speaker 1: we see things freke strangulation, When we see women being assault, shit,
- 20:09Speaker 1: women are pregnant or shortly after giving birth, those are
- 20:13Speaker 1: risk factors that we look for to indicate that this
- 20:17Speaker 1: particular victim is at risk for domestic homicide. So I'm
- 20:22Speaker 1: not sure why he wasn't kept in jail. Oh, doctor
- 20:27Speaker 1: Carolin West, you are preaching to the choir. Lady, you
- 20:33Speaker 1: are preaching to the choir. And doctor Carolyn West, you're
- 20:37Speaker 1: wondering that. Now, just wait, just wait with me, an
- 20:41Speaker 1: esteemed professor, doctor Carolin West and joining us out of
- 20:44Speaker 1: University Washington, Tacoma and award winning author doctor West, listen
- 20:51Speaker 1: to our friends and now from WKBW. He must have
- 20:54Speaker 1: been stalking her. My mom asked her, why are you
- 20:57Speaker 1: putting that vest on? She said, because Mom, he's going
- 20:59Speaker 1: to kill me. You don't understand. And as soon as
- 21:02Speaker 1: she went around the corner, he killed her. He smashed
- 21:05Speaker 1: into the front of her car in front of a
- 21:07Speaker 1: school bus and got out the car where to shut
- 21:09Speaker 1: them and shut her and pulled off her ex boyfriend
- 21:11Speaker 1: and father of one of the kids in the suv
- 21:14Speaker 1: tells me this should have never happened. I know he
- 21:16Speaker 1: was arrested a couple days ago for domestic violence. I
- 21:19Speaker 1: think your daughter was in that car, Yes she was,
- 21:21Speaker 1: and she saw what happened. Yes she did, and there
- 21:24Speaker 1: was two other kids in the car. Where's your daughter
- 21:26Speaker 1: now in the house? Yes, Ma'm She would call every
- 21:29Speaker 1: once in a while and ask questions and saying what
- 21:32Speaker 1: should I do? And the video was posted on Facebook.
- 21:35Speaker 1: Everybody seen it. Everybody was trying to help her, and
- 21:41Speaker 1: this is what happens. The video you sent me was
- 21:43Speaker 1: posted on Facebook. Yes it was. She said if anything
- 21:46Speaker 1: ever happens to her, she would not rest on peace.
- 21:49Speaker 1: The family is telling me that the system failed their loved.
- 21:52Speaker 1: One time stories with Nancy Greece. Okay with me? Doctor
- 22:13Speaker 1: Tim Gallagher. He is the renowned medical examiner in the
- 22:17Speaker 1: state of Florida. You can find me at pathcaremad dot com,
- 22:20Speaker 1: Lecturer University Florida Medical School, and founder and host of
- 22:25Speaker 1: the International Forensic Medicine Death Investigation Conference. Doctor Gallagher, you
- 22:32Speaker 1: and I have been in the business for quite some time,
- 22:35Speaker 1: you as a medical examiner an MD, myself as a prosecutor,
- 22:44Speaker 1: Doctor Gallagher. I hate calling this domestic violence because that
- 22:49Speaker 1: seems to make it kind of warm and fuzzy domestic
- 22:52Speaker 1: that's a BS. I've had so many homicide victims state
- 23:00Speaker 1: if anything happens to me, what fill in the blank.
- 23:04Speaker 1: My key is under the map, my key is here,
- 23:06Speaker 1: my my wheel is here. Here's my passwords. Did you
- 23:10Speaker 1: hear earlier, Doctor Gallagher, she said, somebody hearing my passwords,
- 23:13Speaker 1: just in case something happens. She's wearing a bullet proofest,
- 23:19Speaker 1: doctor Gallagher, How many times, doctor Gallagher, have you seen
- 23:23Speaker 1: this where the woman says, if anything happens to me,
- 23:27Speaker 1: and then the very purpose she's afraid of kills her. Well, unfortunately,
- 23:33Speaker 1: you know, we do see it several times a year,
- 23:37Speaker 1: you know, in the state. You know. But when a
- 23:40Speaker 1: woman who is with children like this is taken in
- 23:44Speaker 1: such a way, you know, I can't help but think
- 23:46Speaker 1: about my own mother. I don't think we could talk
- 23:49Speaker 1: about a case like this without thinking about our own
- 23:51Speaker 1: mothers and how devastating it will be to our lives.
- 23:54Speaker 1: You know, if we lost our mother in this way,
- 23:57Speaker 1: that the ripple effects, you know, would go on for years.
- 24:01Speaker 1: I don't think I would have had a career that
- 24:03Speaker 1: I would have had. Man, you just got Tommy Gallagher.
- 24:05Speaker 1: You got Tommy thinking about how you wouldn't have your
- 24:09Speaker 1: career as a medical doctor if it hadn't been for
- 24:11Speaker 1: your mother. There is no way I would have made
- 24:16Speaker 1: it through law school or all those cases I prosecute
- 24:20Speaker 1: in front of juries, drug lords, rapists, murderer's trauma, lester's
- 24:25Speaker 1: artist without her. She was there every step of the
- 24:29Speaker 1: way exactly, you know. And I'm one of six, you know,
- 24:33Speaker 1: raised by a single mother. So even the attention that
- 24:36Speaker 1: I got was enough to get me this way. And
- 24:39Speaker 1: you think about what has the world lost? You know,
- 24:41Speaker 1: she had three daughters, she had three kids. You know
- 24:44Speaker 1: what has the world lost? Because now they're going to
- 24:47Speaker 1: be in that situation. They're not going to be able
- 24:49Speaker 1: to reach their full potential because of this. So this
- 24:52Speaker 1: type of violence, it doesn't just happen today. The ripple
- 24:55Speaker 1: effects go on for decades when you lose a person
- 24:58Speaker 1: like this, the leader of the family, the mother of
- 25:01Speaker 1: young kids. And another thing, Doctor Gallagher, while I've got you,
- 25:05Speaker 1: I don't want your patience to start complying there at
- 25:07Speaker 1: the morgue. But how in the hay could he beat
- 25:11Speaker 1: a bulletproof vest. He must have shot her in the
- 25:14Speaker 1: head or the face more than likely, you know, the
- 25:16Speaker 1: bulletproof vest is actually a bullet resistant vest. Bullets can
- 25:21Speaker 1: still go through, you know. And I heard mentioned that
- 25:24Speaker 1: he used a shotgun. So when a shotgun, not just
- 25:28Speaker 1: one projectile comes out, but many projectiles come out, And
- 25:32Speaker 1: if you can injure an arm with that and sever
- 25:36Speaker 1: the brachial artery, you could hit the leg and sever
- 25:38Speaker 1: the fhemeral artery, and then she could expire from eastanguination
- 25:42Speaker 1: or a loss of blood from that. The bulletproof vest
- 25:45Speaker 1: only covers your chest area and a bit of your
- 25:48Speaker 1: abdominal area, you know, so any other area is very vulnerable,
- 25:52Speaker 1: including the head and including the neck. Doctor Gallagher, could
- 25:56Speaker 1: you could you tell me the artery that is in
- 25:59Speaker 1: your arm? Did you say brach brachial arteries in your arm?
- 26:02Speaker 1: That's correct, and the femeral arteries in the leg. Chrodotis
- 26:06Speaker 1: in the net in the net and right. An injury
- 26:10Speaker 1: to any one of those by a shotgun is almost
- 26:13Speaker 1: fatal the time now. Regarding bulletproof vest, doctor Gallagher, I mean,
- 26:19Speaker 1: I know, if you're shot in the chest and you're
- 26:23Speaker 1: wearing a vest, it can knock you over and it
- 26:26Speaker 1: still hurts. But you're saying a shotgun it close. Ryans
- 26:30Speaker 1: could actually pierce a bulletproof vest. Some of the pellets
- 26:33Speaker 1: can go through. There are seams in the bulletproof vest
- 26:36Speaker 1: that some of the pellets can find their way through
- 26:38Speaker 1: the seams. There are some high powered rounds that can
- 26:42Speaker 1: actually go through the vest. And like I said before,
- 26:46Speaker 1: the misnomer is bulletproof. Now it's not bulletproof, it is
- 26:49Speaker 1: bullet resistance. Some rounds can penetrate the material. Guys, if
- 26:54Speaker 1: we all know about the video that this terrified young
- 26:58Speaker 1: mom and just beau beautiful to boot smart, beautiful raising
- 27:03Speaker 1: her children on her own, if everybody on social media
- 27:08Speaker 1: knows about it, Here we are in the studio, we
- 27:10Speaker 1: know about all the guests know about the video. Why
- 27:14Speaker 1: and the haydn the cops know about the video? Well,
- 27:17Speaker 1: guess what they did. Take a listen again, this time
- 27:22Speaker 1: to Chief Brian James gould At. He's the chief of
- 27:27Speaker 1: the police department in the town of cheek Tawaga. On Wednesday,
- 27:31Speaker 1: September twenty eighth, officers responded to an address on Barbara
- 27:34Speaker 1: Place for a complaint that a female victim was punched
- 27:37Speaker 1: by her husband. Officers spoke with the victim, Kierra Benefield,
- 27:40Speaker 1: and based upon their initial investigation, determined that the suspect,
- 27:43Speaker 1: Adam Bennefield, should be arrested for harassment. Prior to police
- 27:47Speaker 1: arriving at the address on Barbara Place, the suspect had
- 27:50Speaker 1: locked himself in the bathroom. Officers were able to gain
- 27:52Speaker 1: entry to the bathroom. Due to the condition that the
- 27:54Speaker 1: suspect was in. When located, officers decided to transport the
- 27:58Speaker 1: suspect the ECMC hospital both a medical and psychological evaluation.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Officers filed for a warrant for the suspect and advice
- 28:05Speaker 1: a victim to call the police if if he returned.
- 28:07Speaker 1: I hated everything. Chief Brian James Gould just said, I
- 28:13Speaker 1: hate everything. He just said. Okay, listen, she was push
- 28:18Speaker 1: repeatedly by her husband. But they're only going to charge
- 28:22Speaker 1: her with harassment. Did they not look at the video?
- 28:28Speaker 1: That is an aggravated assault. And aggassault is when you
- 28:31Speaker 1: hurt someone horribly, like you shoot them, you stab them.
- 28:35Speaker 1: An aggravated battery is an aggas salt where you actually
- 28:39Speaker 1: lose the use of pristans your arm, you have to
- 28:42Speaker 1: have your arm amputated, you have to have your eye
- 28:44Speaker 1: taken out, you lose a finger. All of that is
- 28:48Speaker 1: an aggravated battery. It doesn't have to be with a
- 28:52Speaker 1: kN eye for a machine gun or machette. I prosecuted
- 28:56Speaker 1: aggravated assaults with the lethal weapon being and if they
- 29:01Speaker 1: had taken the time to look at this video and
- 29:03Speaker 1: done the right thing. He would have been charged with
- 29:05Speaker 1: agassault instead of harassment. And listen to this, I mean,
- 29:10Speaker 1: did I hear something wrong, Christy Massurik. Dude to the
- 29:13Speaker 1: condition the suspect was in. He was taken to the
- 29:18Speaker 1: hospital for psychological evaluation after he hides in the bathroom,
- 29:24Speaker 1: locks himself in the bathroom like a little boy. Seriously,
- 29:28Speaker 1: and he gets to the hospital with a boxcutter, threatening
- 29:31Speaker 1: to kill himself. Oh oh, so he was holding himself hostage. Okay,
- 29:36Speaker 1: and then what did they say to Kiara? Hey, if
- 29:40Speaker 1: he comes back, Carlos, every one of them should be
- 29:44Speaker 1: fired right now, Christie, do I miss something? It's the timeline. Oh,
- 29:51Speaker 1: the initial beating takes place at seven thirty in the morning.
- 29:56Speaker 1: Cops are called. Yeah, he holds himself up, you know,
- 30:01Speaker 1: the beat or the abuser threatened to kill himself. They
- 30:05Speaker 1: remove him and take him to ECMC. A warrant is issued.
- 30:10Speaker 1: But in the time frame of that, she posted a
- 30:14Speaker 1: video on Facebook. Well wait a minute, they did see
- 30:20Speaker 1: the video. Take a listen again, our Cut eleven Chief
- 30:25Speaker 1: Brian James Gould. On Sunday night, the victim called police
- 30:30Speaker 1: because she thought somebody was in her home. Police responded
- 30:32Speaker 1: but did not locate anybody well. Speaking with the victim,
- 30:35Speaker 1: the victims showed the responding officers the video of the
- 30:37Speaker 1: incident from Wednesday. The video showed a much more violent
- 30:40Speaker 1: incident than what was originally reported to the original responding officer.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Those officers called in detectives to the scene to begin
- 30:47Speaker 1: a further investigation that night. On Monday morning, the victim
- 30:50Speaker 1: met with detectives and, based upon new evidence, the charges
- 30:54Speaker 1: from Wednesday's incidents are upgraded to a misdemeanor sault charge
- 30:58Speaker 1: and other misdemeanor charges. Officers attempted to locate the suspect
- 31:02Speaker 1: to arrest him, but we're unable to. The suspect did
- 31:04Speaker 1: eventually call the detectus back later that night, and he
- 31:07Speaker 1: was advised to turn himself in. You know what, this
- 31:10Speaker 1: is the moment right here. This is why I was
- 31:12Speaker 1: held in contempt, Jackie. Moments just like this. So obviously
- 31:16Speaker 1: he's sneaking around her house. She calls police. Police come,
- 31:19Speaker 1: he's gone. She shows them the video. They upgrade the
- 31:24Speaker 1: harassment to misdemeanor assault. Don't tell me, Chief Brian James
- 31:31Speaker 1: Gould that Oh my goodness, now I've seen the video.
- 31:34Speaker 1: This is much worse than we thought. They saw her
- 31:37Speaker 1: believing blood coming out of her nose. She told them
- 31:43Speaker 1: what happened. They saw her, and they did not file
- 31:49Speaker 1: a felony charge. And what does that mean? Listen? The
- 31:55Speaker 1: next morning, Tuesday, the suspect did turn himself in to
- 31:58Speaker 1: the chief Waca Police Department detectives. He was booked and
- 32:01Speaker 1: helped to see our court. The detectives notified the court
- 32:04Speaker 1: of the threat that the suspect presented to the victim.
- 32:07Speaker 1: The CPD domestic violence Advocate made contact with the assistant
- 32:11Speaker 1: District attorney handling the case and made them aware of
- 32:15Speaker 1: the threat that this suspect presented. The domestic violence advocate
- 32:19Speaker 1: was advised that the charges were not qualifying charges and
- 32:23Speaker 1: that the suspect could not be held, so the domestic
- 32:25Speaker 1: violence advocate insisted that an order of protection be issued.
- 32:29Speaker 1: The suspect was arraigned and a staateway order protection was
- 32:31Speaker 1: issued against the suspect. The suspect was released by the court.
- 32:35Speaker 1: Operative suspect released by court. Okay, Dodgor Carol and West,
- 32:39Speaker 1: I hear you in the background, and I agree with
- 32:42Speaker 1: every groan that you just admitted. Released by the court,
- 32:46Speaker 1: they upgraded him to missdemeanors. Are you kidding me? And
- 32:50Speaker 1: they release him with a piece of paper. Don't go
- 32:53Speaker 1: near her. He's been harassing her for so long. She's
- 32:57Speaker 1: wearing a bulletproof vest and she's got video surreal to
- 33:01Speaker 1: record his beatings. And they give him a piece of paper. Really, doctor,
- 33:06Speaker 1: And he also had a history of assaulting other women
- 33:10Speaker 1: seriously so and had been incarcerated for that. Oh, doctor West,
- 33:15Speaker 1: you are so right on takeless now cut sixteen w
- 33:19Speaker 1: ivb Adam Benefield's past includes an escape from a local
- 33:23Speaker 1: jail and a violent domestic incident with an ex girlfriend.
- 33:28Speaker 1: Back in March two thousand, Benefield was armed with a
- 33:32Speaker 1: shotgun when he abducted his estranged girlfriend and another woman
- 33:36Speaker 1: on the Kensington Expressway before leading police on a high
- 33:40Speaker 1: speed chase. He was twenty two at the time of
- 33:43Speaker 1: the incident. Then, in September of the same year, while
- 33:48Speaker 1: awaiting trial, he escaped from the Erie County Correctional Facility
- 33:52Speaker 1: in Alden by climbing over a fifteen foot wall. Did
- 33:56Speaker 1: you hear that, doctor West? Did you hear that? Again?
- 34:01Speaker 1: With a shotgun? Violence on a woman escape. He even
- 34:05Speaker 1: got over the wall at the jail a fifteen football
- 34:10Speaker 1: And this, I'm just gonna say it, idiot, judge and
- 34:14Speaker 1: prosecutor give him a stay away order, a piece of paper,
- 34:18Speaker 1: so we are a great women don't leave or they
- 34:21Speaker 1: don't try to protect themselves in this case, family, you
- 34:25Speaker 1: can do everything and it still may not guarantee safety.
- 34:31Speaker 1: Jessica Garth, you see this type of behavior crime every
- 34:36Speaker 1: day in my mind, and I hope they hear our program.
- 34:41Speaker 1: The judge and the prosecutor signed Kiara's death warrant. They did, yes,
- 34:49Speaker 1: And unfortunately, with the charges that they levied against him,
- 34:52Speaker 1: I think New York law prohibited him from being held
- 34:55Speaker 1: on any kind of a bill. But I just start
- 34:57Speaker 1: with the decision of the prosecutor as to one charge,
- 35:00Speaker 1: not only the prosecutor, but the judge. And here's the
- 35:02Speaker 1: judge's name. He needs to be thrown right off the bench,
- 35:06Speaker 1: Justice David Stevens, because the judge can disagree with the prosecutor.
- 35:12Speaker 1: And isn't it true, Jessica Garth, that the judge and
- 35:16Speaker 1: the prosecutor and the defense training they all have a
- 35:19Speaker 1: copy of the defendants rap sheet. They knew about his
- 35:22Speaker 1: prior felonies. They knew he did hard time, they knew
- 35:25Speaker 1: he escaped over a fifteen football absolutely, but yet they
- 35:29Speaker 1: still let him go on misdemeanors criminal mischief in the
- 35:35Speaker 1: fourth degree. Really, Nancy, they let him go less than
- 35:39Speaker 1: a day before she was murdered. Yes, and it all
- 35:42Speaker 1: stems from bail reform. It's being hidden under the term
- 35:48Speaker 1: bail reform. It's no reform, Christie. But you're right. He's
- 35:53Speaker 1: released thanks to Judge David Stevens and the weak spine
- 35:59Speaker 1: prosecutor in that courtroom. They let him go on October four.
- 36:03Speaker 1: She is dead October five, So then he gets away
- 36:07Speaker 1: to boot. Listen to this. Our friends cut nineteen, our
- 36:12Speaker 1: friends from wk BW Adam Benefield was caught by Buffalo Police,
- 36:17Speaker 1: so US from and US Marshals this morning, exactly one
- 36:20Speaker 1: week after County prosecutors say he shot and killed Kiera Hudson.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Benfield now faces a second degree murder charge, along with
- 36:28Speaker 1: three counts of child endangerment. No matter what guylines you have,
- 36:31Speaker 1: there are evil people in our world, and we will,
- 36:35Speaker 1: you know, see tragedies like this. You know, we can't
- 36:39Speaker 1: speculate you know what he have made bail, if there
- 36:42Speaker 1: was bail. There's a million things you can look at,
- 36:44Speaker 1: but it is extremely frustrating when you try. You have
- 36:49Speaker 1: so many steps in place, and you know somebody is dangerous,
- 36:53Speaker 1: you know there's a clear and present danger. Yet the
- 36:58Speaker 1: court has no option but to this person back out
- 37:01Speaker 1: into our community. That is total bs, complete bs. They
- 37:06Speaker 1: did have an option. They could have charged him after
- 37:09Speaker 1: that vicious beating with aggravated assault. That is a felony,
- 37:15Speaker 1: a violent felony, and they could have put him behind bars.
- 37:19Speaker 1: For all I know, he violated his parole. But on
- 37:22Speaker 1: that charge alone, they signed Kiera's death sentence. They sentenced
- 37:30Speaker 1: her three children to life without a mother. All you
- 37:34Speaker 1: mothers out there, think about it, your child growing up
- 37:37Speaker 1: without you to support them, help them, feed them, nurture them,
- 37:43Speaker 1: push them forward in life. And now Chief Brian James
- 37:47Speaker 1: Gould is trying to tell me, who knows there's always
- 37:51Speaker 1: evil people. There's really nothing we can do about it.
- 37:53Speaker 1: You know what I'd start with getting rid of you, Chief,
- 37:56Speaker 1: and I would also get rid of this not supposed
- 38:00Speaker 1: to curse on air. And I gave it up when
- 38:03Speaker 1: the twins were born. Reportedly Justice Justice, that's BS, David
- 38:08Speaker 1: Stevens and the detectives that failed Kiara. They can all
- 38:14Speaker 1: go to hell, straight to hell in a handbasket. And
- 38:18Speaker 1: not only that, they can go straight to hell in
- 38:20Speaker 1: a handbasket from the unemployment line. Okay, voters, you know
- 38:24Speaker 1: what to do. Kiara Hudson is dead. Suspect Adam Benefield
- 38:32Speaker 1: behind bars for now unless they let him out again.
- 38:36Speaker 1: We wait as justice and false Nancy Grace Crimes Choice
- 38:39Speaker 1: signing off goodbye for