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Sharri | 15 October · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News Bits.
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Speaker 2: Sharry, Thanks Andrew good evening, Welcome to the show. Tonight,
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister under fire from his own MPs over
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Speaker 2: his decision to buy a multimillion dollar waterfront home. This
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Speaker 2: as his own attacks on Malcolm Turnbule's wealth come back
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Speaker 2: to bite him.
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Speaker 3: Those exclusive details in a moment.
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Speaker 2: Also tonight, is rady Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu tells the
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Speaker 2: UN to get out of the way as he targets
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Speaker 2: Hesbela terrorists high profile is Raedi figures. Elon Levy and
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Speaker 2: Peter Lerner will both join me for full coverage throughout
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Speaker 2: the show.
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Speaker 3: Plus, China has.
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Speaker 2: Deployed one hundred and twenty five military aircraft and navy
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Speaker 2: vessels around Taiwan in an attempt to intimidate the sovereign nation.
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Speaker 2: I'll speak about this shocking active aggression with Ronwan Bishop
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Speaker 2: and Kleber Bond shortly. Plus all the media news from
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Speaker 2: Command Harris's upcoming Fox News interview to Channel nine sacking
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Speaker 2: their spin.
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Speaker 3: Doctor with Sophie Ellsworth.
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Speaker 2: But first tonight, Labor and PS have hit out at
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Speaker 2: their Prime Minister for poor judgment in buying a waterfront
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Speaker 2: mansion during the cost of living crisis, and Anthony Albanese's
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Speaker 2: own words attacking Malcolm Turbule's wealth came back to bite
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Speaker 2: him today, showing the extent of his hypocrisy. Well, I
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Speaker 2: can tell you that labor and PS are shocked and
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Speaker 2: incredulous at Albanese's decision to buy a four point three
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Speaker 2: million dollar cliff top holiday home during this economic crisis.
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Speaker 2: One Labor and P told me today, this one will
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Speaker 2: cut through. Do people think he gets the cost of
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Speaker 2: living crisis when he's buying a holiday house like this?
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Speaker 2: And A Labor insiders said to me, Labor members must
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Speaker 2: be wondering if their captain has his head in the
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Speaker 2: game and his eye on the ball. Former Labor State
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Speaker 2: Secretary Cameron Milner said this is either total incompetence or
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Speaker 2: sublime arrogance when it comes to Albow's political touch.
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Speaker 3: The danger for Labor is this.
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Speaker 2: Retirement home might be the perfect combination of both and
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Speaker 2: a labor and He also told the City Morning Herald,
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Speaker 2: I can't think of a greater act of self sabotage.
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Speaker 3: In my life. I am gobsmacked.
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Speaker 2: And there's widespread concern inside Labor about the MPs who
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Speaker 2: are up against the Greens in marginal seats where housing
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Speaker 2: affordability is the single biggest.
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Speaker 3: Issue, and this is a gift to the Greens.
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Speaker 2: It's spectacularly poor political judgment from Albin Easy. Now Here
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Speaker 2: was Albin Easy back in two thousand and eight saying
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Speaker 2: that Turnbull, who was then just newly installed as the
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Speaker 2: Liberal leader, was out of touch because of his wealth.
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Speaker 4: Born friend of the battler over here, the leader of
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Speaker 4: the orphisician from Struggle Street in Point Piper.
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Speaker 2: Struggle Street in Point Piper, Well, what does Albo have
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Speaker 2: to say now about Struggle Street on a waterfront mansion.
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Speaker 2: Then a decade later, in twenty eighteen, the class war
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Speaker 2: obsessed labor MP was still going for the jugular based
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Speaker 2: on where Turnbull lived.
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Speaker 4: Malcolm Turnbull might be okay looking after the people of
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Speaker 4: Point Piper, He's not good looking after the people of
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Speaker 4: Nurangbar and the people of Kabulcha and the people of
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Speaker 4: more Field and the purple of this community.
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Speaker 3: That is what you call hipocrisy.
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Speaker 2: And now, in the middle of a financial crisis, most
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Speaker 2: Australians wouldn't be able to afford a four million.
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Speaker 3: Dollar house at all, let.
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Speaker 2: Alone a sport, a spare four point three million dollars
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Speaker 2: to splash on a holiday home. The Prime Minister is
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Speaker 2: meant to lead the country during an economic crisis, but
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Speaker 2: his lost touch with what Australians are actually going through.
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Speaker 2: In fact, he's rubbing the cost of living.
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Speaker 3: Crisis in their face. Now here are the facts.
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Speaker 2: The proportion of homeowners falling behind on their mortgage repayments
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Speaker 2: hit an eight year high in June. The RBA says
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Speaker 2: families missing mortgage repayments has nearly doubled in some hard
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Speaker 2: hit suburbs.
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Speaker 3: In Sydney.
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Speaker 2: The number of people sleeping on the streets has almost
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Speaker 2: doubled since twenty twenty one during this cost of living crisis,
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Speaker 2: and food bag data out today reveals that more than
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Speaker 2: half of households affected by food and security are skipping
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Speaker 2: meals or even going an entire day without food.
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Speaker 3: So at the same.
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Speaker 2: Time that families are skipping meals and children are going
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Speaker 2: going to school hungry, Albo from the block is buying
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Speaker 2: a waterfront mansion. He is insensitively showing off just how
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Speaker 2: well he's doing all from taxpayer money while the country suffers.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it.
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Speaker 2: Reminds me of Marie Antoinette's infamous saying let them eat cake.
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Speaker 2: And it makes me wonder whether Albanesi actually cares that
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Speaker 2: much about being elected Prime Minister again, whether he truly
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Speaker 2: is desperate to win the election, because I genuinely don't
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Speaker 2: understand how a politician who wants to win again can
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Speaker 2: buy a multimillion dollar home when cost of living and
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Speaker 2: housing affordability are the two biggest issues facing Australians. And
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Speaker 2: so astonishing is it that liberal figure Michael Kroger today
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Speaker 2: said it did look like Albanzi might be ready to retire.
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Speaker 5: It almost looks like a retirement house. It's sort of
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Speaker 5: gives the part from the cost of living, CHRISTI is
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Speaker 5: the housing crisis, etc. It always gives people the impression
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Speaker 5: that he's setting himself up for retirement, that he's sort
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Speaker 5: of on the way out, that if he loses the election,
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Speaker 5: well he's got somewhere to go. I think that's a
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Speaker 5: subliminal message that comes out of something like this, which
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Speaker 5: is he's buying a property near the beach.
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Speaker 1: It just gives the impression that he's headed for the door.
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Speaker 2: And this doesn't just cement the perception that alban Easy
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Speaker 2: is out of touch. It shows that he truly is
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Speaker 2: because unlike most Australians, who are paying more tax than
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Speaker 2: ever thanks to bracket creep, and we know that Australians
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Speaker 2: already have among the highest personal income tax rates in
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Speaker 2: the world.
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Speaker 3: Well, unlike most.
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Speaker 2: Australians, alban Easy had a pay rise this year. He
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Speaker 2: now earns six hundred thousand dollars. All of his flights
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Speaker 2: are paid for, all of his accommodation covered, and on
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Speaker 2: top of this has been receiving rental income.
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Speaker 3: Every expense of his is taken care of.
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Speaker 2: He clearly has an entitlement mentality because Albanze's entire life
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Speaker 2: has been spent working for politics or the Labor Party.
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Speaker 2: According to his own official bio, he's only had a
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Speaker 2: job outside of politics for one year. He was a
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Speaker 2: bank officer from ninety eighty to nineteen eighty one. Now,
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Speaker 2: voters don't hold wealth against politicians when they know that
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Speaker 2: they've worked hard for it. Our country is built on aspiration,
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Speaker 2: and rightly so. But Albanese's personal philosophy has been defined
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Speaker 2: by the class warfare and the politics of envy. That's
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Speaker 2: the genesis of his changes to Stage three tax cuts,
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Speaker 2: and it's behind his hatred of negative gearing and voters
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Speaker 2: will hold this house purchase against Albanizi because he's been on.
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Speaker 3: The public purse his entire life.
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Speaker 2: He loves jet setting around the globe in Toto one,
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Speaker 2: and now without any expenses to worry about, he's been
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Speaker 2: able to buy a waterfront holiday house.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister defended his purchase today by once again
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Speaker 2: speaking about his childhood in Housing Commission.
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Speaker 4: Of course, I am much better off as a Prime Minister.
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Speaker 4: I earn a good income. I understand now. I understand
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Speaker 4: now I've been fortunate, but I also know what it's.
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Speaker 6: Like to struggle.
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Speaker 4: My mum lived in the one public housing that she
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Speaker 4: was born in for all of her sixty five years,
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Speaker 4: and I know what it's like, which is why I
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Speaker 4: want to help all Australians into a home.
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Speaker 2: Mate, I think you're going to have to give the
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Speaker 2: Housing Commission story a rest now that you're a property
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Speaker 2: mogul Well Peter Dighton today was asked about this, and
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Speaker 2: he said that many Australians couldn't afford to pay their
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Speaker 2: mortgages because of the government's economic management.
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Speaker 7: Prime Minister can answer questions in relation to it otherwise,
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Speaker 7: but the homeowners at Australia that I'm worried about it
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Speaker 7: at the moment of people who can't afford their mortgages.
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Speaker 7: People have had twelve interest rate increases under this government,
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Speaker 7: and interest rates should come back as they're doing in
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Speaker 7: the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada and New Zealand.
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Speaker 7: But because of mister Albanesi's bad economic management, we're seeing
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Speaker 7: inflation remain higher here and therefore the interest rates remain
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Speaker 7: higher as well.
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Speaker 2: The Herald Sun political columnist James Campbell said that this
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Speaker 2: was Albanese's Hawaii moment, and like me, Campbell also wondered
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Speaker 2: whether Albanzi had given up, and he pointed out that
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Speaker 2: Australians have suffered the biggest fall in their standard of
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Speaker 2: living out of any country in the OECD, he said,
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Speaker 2: but is splashing out millions on a bolt hole in
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Speaker 2: a region of Australia where people are living in caravan
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Speaker 2: parks because there's nowhere to rent, short of using taxpayer
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Speaker 2: money to fly around the country to attend free Taylor
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Speaker 2: Swift and Katie Perry gigs. It's hard to think of
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Speaker 2: a more obvious way of showing he's out of touch
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Speaker 2: with the experiences of ordinary people, and it's true Albanezi
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Speaker 2: has lost touch with the reality of how Australians are struggling.
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Speaker 2: He's now used to having his bum in the butter.
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Speaker 2: He's living a grand old life while making decisions that
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Speaker 2: only prolong inflation and worsen the cost of living crisis. Now,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to come back to that topic in a
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Speaker 2: moment with Kayleb Bond and Bronwyn Bishop, but first let's
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Speaker 2: turn to Israel. Now, the United Nations have had a
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Speaker 2: responsibility and an obligation to enforce their own Security Council
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Speaker 2: Resolution seventeen oh one since the end of the Second
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Speaker 2: Lebanon War in two thousand and six. That UN resolution
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Speaker 2: decreed that Hesbela needed to stay north of the Latani
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Speaker 2: River and not militarize southern Lebanon near the border with Israel.
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Speaker 2: For the past eighteen years, the United Nations has comprehensively.
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Speaker 3: Failed to keep the peace.
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Speaker 2: Instead, literally right under their watch, Hesbela amassed stockpiles of
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Speaker 2: weapons and built tunnels with UNIFOR officials not far away.
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Speaker 2: Hesbela used this area as a base to relentlessly attack
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Speaker 2: Israel since October the eighth striking. While the nation was
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Speaker 2: at its most vulnerable. In the wake of the October
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Speaker 2: seven massacre, more than eight thousand rockets have been fired,
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Speaker 2: twelve children playing soccer murdered, and eighty thousand Israelis have
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Speaker 2: been forced to flee their homes. During all this time,
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Speaker 2: Western leaders were silent.
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Speaker 3: There were no demands of Hesbalah.
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Speaker 2: For a ceasefire or to stop their attacks on Israel.
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Speaker 2: With international Deploymacy a dead duck, Israel had no choice
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Speaker 2: but to step in, fight the terrorists and defend their
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Speaker 2: own citizens. Western leaders became deeply upset that Israel would
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Speaker 2: dare defend itself and almost immediately demanded a ceasefire. Well
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Speaker 2: Now overnight Britain, Italy, France and Germany released the joint
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Speaker 2: statement wrongly accusing Israel of deliberately attacking uniform sites after
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Speaker 2: eight employees were injured. In their statement, they said, we
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Speaker 2: call on Israel and on all parties to uphold their
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Speaker 2: obligations to ensure the safety and security of UNIFIL personnel
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Speaker 2: at all times and to allow UNIFIL to continue carrying
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Speaker 2: out its mandate. We reaffer the essential stabilizing role played
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Speaker 2: by UNIFIL in southern Lebanon. They said we underscore the
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Speaker 2: importance of the United Nations in resolving armed conflict and
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Speaker 2: mitigating the humanitarian impact, and so on.
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Speaker 3: What a joke, What a laugh.
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Speaker 2: UNIFIL has done less than nothing to stop the build
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Speaker 2: up of terror on the border of Israel. UNIPHIL has
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Speaker 2: done nothing to stop the terror attacks on Israelis, including
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Speaker 2: little children, one devastated.
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Speaker 3: Mother who I had on this program.
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Speaker 2: What an absurd statement, a stabilizing role, what rubbish. The
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Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister pushed back today telling un workers to
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Speaker 2: get out of the way.
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Speaker 8: The charge that Israel deliberately attacked UNIFIL personnel is completely false.
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Speaker 6: It's exactly the opposite.
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Speaker 8: Israel repeatedly as UNIFIL to get out of harmswell, it
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Speaker 8: repeatedly asked them to temporarily leave the combat zone, which
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Speaker 8: is right next to Israel's border with Lebanon. In fact,
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Speaker 8: on the day that Israel began its ground operation next
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Speaker 8: to our border with Lebanon, we ask them specifically, please
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Speaker 8: leave this area so you're not harmed.
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Speaker 2: The evidence we've seen this week of Hesbela operating within
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Speaker 2: a whisker's breath of UNIFIL is a wake up call.
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Speaker 3: It's further evidence that the.
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Speaker 2: United Nations simply enables terrorism instead of protecting nations against
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Speaker 2: its barbarism. The reality is the ineffective UNIFIL has basically become.
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Speaker 3: Human shields for Hesbelah. This is truly a new low for.
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Speaker 2: The United Nations, watching the buildup of terrorism in breach
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Speaker 2: of their own Security Council resolution and saying nothing, just
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Speaker 2: allowing Israelis.
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Speaker 3: To be killed, or to discuss this further.
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Speaker 2: I'm joined now by head of the is Raeti Citizens
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Speaker 2: spokes Person's Office, Elon Levy.
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Speaker 3: Elon, welcome to the show now.
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Speaker 2: As I said, we've just seen evidence this week that
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Speaker 2: uniform posts were nearby Hesbela weapons and tunnels. What's your
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Speaker 2: comment on how ineffective the UN Security Council has been
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Speaker 2: in stopping the build up of terror in southern Lebanon.
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Speaker 9: It's extremely frustrating that Israel is now having to pick
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Speaker 9: up the pieces of the international community's failure. UNIFIL had
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Speaker 9: one job that was to help the Lebanese army disarm
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Speaker 9: Hezbolla and put it away from the.
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Speaker 6: Israeli border, and it failed. It failed miserably.
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Speaker 9: Has Bolla built its military positions right next to unifilled soldiers.
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Speaker 9: At some point those peacekeepers had to be sitting at
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Speaker 9: their posts watching Hespolla digging tunnels right outside their posts.
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Speaker 9: We had a mass casualty incident just the other night,
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Speaker 9: four soldiers killed from a drone fired from inside an
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Speaker 9: area that UNIFIL was meant to have disarmed. Israel spent
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Speaker 9: eighteen years telling UNIFIL please enforce your and push Hesbola
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Speaker 9: away from the border.
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Speaker 6: It spent a year warning Hezbola back off or we
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Speaker 6: will have to push you away.
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Speaker 9: But after relentless rocket attacks, Israel is now having to
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Speaker 9: step in to defend its people where the UN has
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Speaker 9: clearly failed.
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Speaker 2: Elon, what's your view on that statement that I just
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Speaker 2: mentioned from the UK, France, Italy and Germany overnight where
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Speaker 2: they accused Israel of targeting UNIFIL officials.
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Speaker 9: I think those countries need to take responsibility for the
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Speaker 9: failure of the international security architecture that was meant to
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Speaker 9: keep us safe. UNIFIL is there because after the two
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Speaker 9: thousand and six war with Hezbola, we agreed on a
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Speaker 9: diplomatic resolution instead of Israel acting against Hesbola, the international
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Speaker 9: community would help Lebanon to disarm Hesbola, and they didn't.
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Speaker 9: Israelis are now dead because of the failure members of
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Speaker 9: the UN Security Council to make sure that UNIPHIL enforced
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Speaker 9: its mandate.
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Speaker 6: So I think that.
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Speaker 9: International diplomats criticizing Israel for its actions in Lebanon should
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Speaker 9: show a little bit of humility and understand that Israel
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Speaker 9: is now having to act and send its own soldiers.
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Speaker 6: In because they fail to do their job.
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Speaker 9: Obviously, Israel isn't targeting UNIFIL forces. Israel is coordinating with
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Speaker 9: UNIFIL forces, but UNIFIL is right next to Hezbolla positions.
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Speaker 6: Hesbola built its positions.
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Speaker 9: Deliberately next to UNIFIL posts, and so Israel now finds
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Speaker 9: itself telling UNIFIL peacekeepers please move.
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Speaker 6: Out of the way. We don't want you to be heard.
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Speaker 6: But it's not our.
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Speaker 9: Fault that has Bola built its military positions under your noses.
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Speaker 6: It's your fault. Need to fess up and take responsibility.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ellen, I think, and I was just in Israel
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Speaker 2: last week. I think people around the world don't quite
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Speaker 2: realize how Israelis are under attack every single day from
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Speaker 2: rocket fire which could be coming from seven directions. Can
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Speaker 2: you tell me a bit about what's the reality of
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Speaker 2: life in Israel with sirens constantly going off.
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Speaker 9: Since the October seventh massacre, we've been under attack on
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Speaker 9: seven fronts. Gaza Hezbolla joined in the next day, the
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Speaker 9: Houthi pirates in Yemen, Iranian militias in Syria, Iranian militias
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Speaker 9: in Iraq, Alastinian terrorists in the West Bank, and Iran itself.
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Speaker 9: When we have a rocket siren we had one in
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Speaker 9: Tel Aviv just yesterday, we don't know what direction it's
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Speaker 9: coming from. It could be coming from the south, to
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Speaker 9: the north, the east, or the west. Iran has deliberately
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Speaker 9: surrounded Israel with a ring of fire of proxy armies,
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Speaker 9: and their goal is to destroy Israel, and they are
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Speaker 9: waging a war of attrition against us to make life
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Speaker 9: in this country impossible. Because every once in a while,
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Speaker 9: there's a rocket siren and you don't know what direction
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Speaker 9: it is coming from. And that's why it's so important
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Speaker 9: that our allies stand together with us and say a
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Speaker 9: ceasefire is not enough.
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Speaker 6: The goal should be peace.
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Speaker 9: It's not enough that this war should end with Iran's
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Speaker 9: terrorist armies on Israel's borders able to fire rockets whenever
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Speaker 9: they want. This war has to end when Iran's proxy
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Speaker 9: armies can.
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Speaker 6: No longer shoot rockets.
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Speaker 9: At Israel's people and we can move towards real peace
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Speaker 9: with our neighbors in Lebanon instead of allowing the Iranian
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Speaker 9: regime and its terrorist armies to ruin everything for everyone
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Speaker 9: all the time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Elon, one thing that really struck me when I
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Speaker 2: was in Israel was the unity among Israelis. I mean
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Speaker 2: irrespective of political leanings, and everyone has an opinion on
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Speaker 2: whether they support the government or they don't, but the
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Speaker 2: majority of Israeli support the war on terror. And Elon
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Speaker 2: you personally, you used to be a spokesperson for the government.
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Speaker 2: That didn't work out, but now you've launched a citizens
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Speaker 2: Spokesperson's office where you speak on behalf of the citizens
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Speaker 2: of Israel, and your message is very similar to the
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Speaker 2: governments because Israel, like I said, is unified in wanting
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Speaker 2: to defeat the terrorism.
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Speaker 3: You know, can you talk about.
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Speaker 2: This because it is so unique when especially and you've
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Speaker 2: just been to Australia as well.
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Speaker 3: In Australia, we're more divided than ever.
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Speaker 9: Israelis are divided on many issues, but were united in
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Speaker 9: an understanding that this war is truly existential. We are
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Speaker 9: surrounded by enemies with long range precision missiles that want
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Speaker 9: to kill all of us and destroy our country. And
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Speaker 9: that means everyone in Israel understands what is at stake
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Speaker 9: in this war. And when I finished my position as
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Speaker 9: a government spokesman, I set up my own organization of
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Speaker 9: ordinary citizens who can stand up and speak up for
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Speaker 9: our country because we realize that only three things matter
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Speaker 9: right now. Hammas must go down, the hostages must go home,
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Speaker 9: and Hesbola and Iran's other proxy armies must go away.
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Speaker 9: This war cannot end with the hamas Terra regime still
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Speaker 9: in power in Gaza plotting another October seventh. It cannot
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Speaker 9: end with hostages still being starved and tortured and raped
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Speaker 9: and executed in Gaza. And it cannot end with Hezbola
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Speaker 9: sitting right on Israel's northern border, or we can't get
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Speaker 9: tens of thousands of people back to their homes.
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Speaker 6: I think there's a perception.
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Speaker 9: Around the world that this is a war that Israel
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Speaker 9: somehow wants or is dragging out.
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Speaker 6: Nothing could be further from the truth. We don't want
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Speaker 6: this war.
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Speaker 9: We're paying a terrible price for this war, but we
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Speaker 9: understand why we need to win this war that was
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Speaker 9: declared against us, because we want to live within safe.
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Speaker 6: And secure borders where our people can go.
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Speaker 9: To sleep safely without fear of a drone coming from
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Speaker 9: two thousand miles away and murdering them.
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Speaker 6: In their sleep.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, said Elin Leavy.
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Speaker 2: Really appreciate your time right now live from Israel and
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Speaker 2: late this hour I'm going to be joined by Peter
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Speaker 2: Lerna that with the latest on Iran and when we
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Speaker 2: can expect those strikes from Israel. But now let's bring
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Speaker 2: in form a Speaker of the House, bron Win Bishop
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Speaker 2: and Sky News host Caleb Bond.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to you both. Great to have you here. We're
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Speaker 3: going to get to.
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Speaker 2: Your view on Albanzi's waterfront match and purchase in just
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Speaker 2: a moment, but I do want to start with what
22:01
Speaker 2: is actually very big news that China has surrounded Taiwan
22:05
Speaker 2: with one hundred and twenty five military aircraft and navy vessels.
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Speaker 2: This is a clear show of intimidation. It's been condemned
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Speaker 2: by the US, Europe and also Australia. Bronwin, this is
22:17
Speaker 2: a worrying sign that China could be moving forward with
22:21
Speaker 2: its reunification or invasion designs on Taiwan.
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Speaker 10: Shari. Whenever there's a void of power internationally, something will
22:31
Speaker 10: fill it, and Z is filling it right now. You're
22:35
Speaker 10: seeing that America is in the throes of its election
22:41
Speaker 10: with the sheer possibility of Kamala Harris being elected. Makes
22:45
Speaker 10: America so weak it doesn't matter. In the United Kingdom,
22:49
Speaker 10: you've got Stammer, who is such a weak character. I
22:53
Speaker 10: mean all the stories coming out about him, and bear
22:57
Speaker 10: in mind he too was a Corbyn Man, and Corburn
23:03
Speaker 10: was anti Semitic and a Labor Party was full of it.
23:07
Speaker 10: And then you look at Makran, and then you look
23:10
Speaker 10: at Germany, which is also starting to see a change
23:13
Speaker 10: in the way people are voting. There's a weakness in
23:17
Speaker 10: the West and China its economy is not performing well.
23:23
Speaker 10: And whenever there's a downgrade and the people start to
23:26
Speaker 10: get a bit rest is then it's dictators always say
23:30
Speaker 10: we'll go in and we'll fight for something to unify
23:33
Speaker 10: the people behind them.
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Speaker 3: So it's a.
23:35
Speaker 10: Very dangerous time indeed right now because of that vacuum
23:41
Speaker 10: of power being filled by Z. So we've just got
23:45
Speaker 10: a hope to goodness that Trump wins in America and
23:49
Speaker 10: starts to restore some strength because there is because of
23:54
Speaker 10: his unpredictability, z will see that that is a threat
23:57
Speaker 10: to him.
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Speaker 2: Caleb, you know, we're seeing still the Russia Ukraine War,
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Speaker 2: We're seeing the Middle East on fire, and now China
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Speaker 2: is exercising it's this intimidation. I mean, one hundred and
24:10
Speaker 2: twenty five aircraft circling Taiwan. That is massive, and I
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Speaker 2: think it's been utterly underplayed in the Australian media well.
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Speaker 11: And that is correct because it's not just a warning
24:21
Speaker 11: to Taiwan that they actually do want to finish the
24:24
Speaker 11: reunification that they've always talked about. It's a warning to
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Speaker 11: the West. I mean, what they're saying is if and
24:29
Speaker 11: when we decide to go into Taiwan, don't you dare
24:32
Speaker 11: come anywhere near the place, otherwise we will reach hell
24:36
Speaker 11: upon you. And it's a warning to the US and Australia,
24:39
Speaker 11: which of course has to deal with the fact that
24:41
Speaker 11: China is expanding within the Pacific and they are going
24:44
Speaker 11: around giving lots of money to little Pacific islands and
24:47
Speaker 11: nations that we simply can't keep up with through their
24:50
Speaker 11: debt diplomacy, and it's the same thing they're saying. Look,
24:53
Speaker 11: if you want to try and fight us, you have
24:55
Speaker 11: no hope in hell. That is the scariest part of
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Speaker 11: all of this. They showing the mc that they have.
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Speaker 11: And look, you can talk about how bad a country
25:05
Speaker 11: China is as a dictatorship, and that is correct, but
25:07
Speaker 11: of course under dictatorship you can have as many soldiers
25:11
Speaker 11: as you want, and that is the one thing that
25:12
Speaker 11: China has in its favor and it will use them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's different arguments from different people and just how
25:17
Speaker 2: strong they're military is, but look, I don't want to
25:20
Speaker 2: find out, that's for sure. Now let's return to Albanese's
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Speaker 2: four point three million dollar purchase of a waterfront home
25:27
Speaker 2: in the New Southel Central coast ron when this is
25:31
Speaker 2: a bad look in the cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 10: Well it's not only a bad look, but personally, I
25:37
Speaker 10: think Albanizei has mentally left the job. I think he
25:43
Speaker 10: is under attacked from two or under fear from two areas.
25:47
Speaker 10: He's got three people in his own party who are
25:50
Speaker 10: starting to count numbers against him to topple him. And
25:53
Speaker 10: you've got the pole starting to slip away, having boasted
25:57
Speaker 10: he's never lost a news poll. Having done now he's saying, well,
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Speaker 10: look from a boy from my house and commission home,
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Speaker 10: I'll end up in a four point three million dollar house.
26:09
Speaker 10: I've done pretty well, so I think I'm mentally leaving
26:13
Speaker 10: this job. And there's no leadership in any of the
26:16
Speaker 10: areas where we need it, none, absolutely none. So we
26:19
Speaker 10: hear this trotted out story about I grew up in
26:22
Speaker 10: the Housing Commission house again today because that is somehow
26:29
Speaker 10: identifies him as a person who's risen. But quite frankly,
26:32
Speaker 10: he rose above his station. I've told you before I
26:35
Speaker 10: sat in that chamber with him for more than twenty years,
26:38
Speaker 10: and nobody ever said he was leadership material.
26:41
Speaker 3: He probably didn't even think it himself.
26:43
Speaker 2: He was, like I said last night, he was surprised
26:45
Speaker 2: when he went shot and lost the prime ministership. He
26:49
Speaker 2: was probably happy to be an infrastructure minister.
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Speaker 10: A consequential infrastructure minister. He was a nobody minister. Nobody
26:58
Speaker 10: wanted to attack him with question time or showing that
27:01
Speaker 10: because he didn't matter.
27:02
Speaker 2: There are some politicians who are desperate for the top job,
27:05
Speaker 2: and you do wonder with this house purchase. Caleb whether
27:08
Speaker 2: albanize is thinking, well, I've been PM, now I can
27:11
Speaker 2: go and enjoy my retirement.
27:12
Speaker 3: He's sixty one at this time.
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Speaker 11: Well, it would certainly seem to indicate that he's already
27:16
Speaker 11: thinking about what he's going to do after the prime ministership.
27:20
Speaker 11: And one would think that whether he loses the Prime
27:22
Speaker 11: ministership at an election in the form of he loses government,
27:26
Speaker 11: or he gets rolled after an election because he delivers
27:28
Speaker 11: a slim minority government, whatever it might be, I think
27:32
Speaker 11: he's going to be out of there like a shot.
27:33
Speaker 11: After that. There'll be a by election in Graindler and
27:37
Speaker 11: he'll bugger off to the Central Coast, and good luck
27:40
Speaker 11: to him. The thing that has troubled me a little
27:42
Speaker 11: bit about the commentary around this today, though, is that
27:45
Speaker 11: it does smack of the politics of envy and the
27:50
Speaker 11: class warfare that is so common in this country. Do
27:53
Speaker 11: I wish that Anthony Albanizi had risen to a place
27:56
Speaker 11: where he could afford a four point three million dollar
27:59
Speaker 11: home on the central Coast? Probably not. But am I
28:02
Speaker 11: jealous of him for having done so?
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Speaker 3: No, think there's jealousy.
28:05
Speaker 2: I think people like I said at the start of
28:08
Speaker 2: the show. We are a country of aspiration and people
28:11
Speaker 2: respect those who are self made, who work hard, who
28:14
Speaker 2: make their way there. But Bronwin Albanezy has been on
28:17
Speaker 2: the public person his whole life.
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Speaker 10: Correct, But what his colleagues will be thinking is what
28:23
Speaker 10: a selfish man to put our marginal seats at risk
28:28
Speaker 10: by doing this purchase. At this point in time, nobody's
28:32
Speaker 10: saying he can't buy and sell properties. He wishes you can,
28:36
Speaker 10: but it's a sheer disregard for colleagues who are in
28:40
Speaker 10: marginal seats, particularly Robertson's a marginal seat where he's buying
28:45
Speaker 10: because that satisfies his own ego. I seriously mean what
28:49
Speaker 10: I say. He feels he's made it, and he did
28:52
Speaker 10: by getting to the Prime Minister. He had no idea
28:55
Speaker 10: what he was going to do once he got there,
28:57
Speaker 10: which was quite apparent when he said the voice is
28:59
Speaker 10: going to be the way.
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Speaker 3: It's still got no idea and that's part of the problem.
29:03
Speaker 3: He never prepared for the job. Correct.
29:06
Speaker 10: And you know, I think it's amusing that people are
29:09
Speaker 10: saying the premiers won't turn up to see the Prince,
29:13
Speaker 10: to see the King and Queen. Well quite frankly, the
29:16
Speaker 10: invitation comes from the Prime Minister. So there he's a
29:20
Speaker 10: poisonous so I don't want to be accept his invitation.
29:23
Speaker 2: We'll see all right from and Bishop Caylebon and Caleb
29:25
Speaker 2: will see you tonight at ten o'clock.
29:28
Speaker 3: Now after the.
29:28
Speaker 2: Break, A legend of journalism, George Nigas passes away at
29:32
Speaker 2: eighty two. We look back on his career, plus why
29:35
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris has agreed to an interview on Fox News,
29:38
Speaker 2: Sophie Ellsworth would join me next, and Peter Lerner.
29:42
Speaker 3: Still coming up on the show. Sus stay tuned, Welcome back, well.
29:50
Speaker 2: Eminent Australian journalist George Nigas has passed away at the
29:53
Speaker 2: age of eighty two. He was the face of many
29:56
Speaker 2: hard hitting news programs. The founding host of sixty Minutes,
30:00
Speaker 2: presented the first episode of Foreign Correspondent. Have a look
30:03
Speaker 2: at this memorable moment from an interview with Bob Hawk.
30:08
Speaker 4: I describe you as an ex boozer and womanizer X.
30:13
Speaker 1: The X is definitely correct for both. I heard your
30:16
Speaker 1: question and that's your answer.
30:19
Speaker 4: You take a lot of convincing, Danta.
30:23
Speaker 2: I don't know if we'd get away with a question
30:25
Speaker 2: like that to a politician these days. All right, media
30:28
Speaker 2: writer for The Australian, Sophie Elsworth joins me. Now, Sophie,
30:31
Speaker 2: what were some of the highlights of George's career?
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Speaker 12: Well, Sherry, the eighty two year old has a career
30:40
Speaker 12: that spanned many decades. He started as a high school
30:43
Speaker 12: teacher and he worked across many commercial TV outlets in Australia.
30:50
Speaker 12: Obviously he was also ABC Foreign correspondent sixty minutes. I mean,
30:55
Speaker 12: George Nigas's career is so extensive. He's one of the
31:00
Speaker 12: most prominent journalists in this country and today there was
31:04
Speaker 12: certainly an outpouring of grief when they learned of his passing.
31:07
Speaker 12: As we know, Sharry, he was batting battling Alzheimer's diseases
31:12
Speaker 12: disease in recent years.
31:14
Speaker 3: But he had some of those great moments.
31:16
Speaker 12: That clipped there with Bob Hawk, an interview with Margaret
31:20
Speaker 12: Thatcher that went viral. He was a very hard hitting
31:24
Speaker 12: journalist and the Australian public very much warm to him,
31:29
Speaker 12: and this is a great loss for the media industry.
31:32
Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, Sophie, let's have a look at US
31:35
Speaker 2: politics now, because in a surprise move, Kamala Harris has
31:38
Speaker 2: agreed to an interview with Fox News with Bret Bayer.
31:41
Speaker 2: This is the first time since Hillary Clinton in twenty
31:44
Speaker 2: sixteen that a presidential candidate from the Democrat Party will
31:48
Speaker 2: appear on Fox ahead of election day.
31:51
Speaker 3: Now, Donald Trump has slammed Fox over it.
31:54
Speaker 2: He's saying that the network's totally lost its way and
31:57
Speaker 2: has grown weak and soft on Democrats in this before
32:00
Speaker 2: the interview has even aired. But Sophie given Kamala Harris
32:05
Speaker 2: has struggled to perform in friendly interviews over the past week,
32:10
Speaker 2: this is going to be an unpredictable performance.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, it will be Sharry and I think it is
32:18
Speaker 12: a good thing that she's fronting up to Fox News.
32:22
Speaker 3: She is not the best media.
32:23
Speaker 12: Performer by any stretch, and Fox News has an enormous
32:28
Speaker 12: reach three times that of CNN and MSNBCS.
32:32
Speaker 1: So there'll be a lot of.
32:34
Speaker 12: People tuning into this interview because she's opted for those
32:38
Speaker 12: more friendly interviews. She was recently on the left wing
32:42
Speaker 12: program The View, So I think there will be a
32:45
Speaker 12: lot of people tuning in. And obviously she's going on
32:48
Speaker 12: Fox to try and win over some of those voters
32:51
Speaker 12: that she thinks she can change their minds from a
32:54
Speaker 12: voting Republican to Democrat, and also for the undecided voters
32:58
Speaker 12: who are not sure which way they will go on
33:01
Speaker 12: polling day.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Brett Bay is a good journalist. There's no
33:05
Speaker 2: indication he'll do anything other than a tough interview. I
33:08
Speaker 2: don't know why Donald Trump wouldn't be welcoming this because
33:11
Speaker 2: we have, as you say, seeing Kamala Harris struggle when
33:14
Speaker 2: she doesn't have a teleprompter. Now I want to return,
33:17
Speaker 2: you know, I spoke about this last night and the
33:19
Speaker 2: show to the ongoing woes at nine Entertainment. The news
33:23
Speaker 2: yesterday that it's long term spin doctor Victoria Buckan has
33:27
Speaker 2: been made redundant, in other words, sacked. Sophie, we've both
33:31
Speaker 2: been following this story. Nine employees have welcomed this move.
33:35
Speaker 2: They say it's the start of the network restoring trust.
33:39
Speaker 2: Is that the reaction you've also been getting? And what
33:41
Speaker 2: can we expect from the upcoming cultural Review?
33:47
Speaker 12: Well, the timing of Victoria Bucan's redundancy is just a
33:51
Speaker 12: few weeks before this cultural review is to be handed down, Shari,
33:56
Speaker 12: So the timing is interesting. However, I have been told
33:59
Speaker 12: her to Hartscher has nothing to do with the findings
34:02
Speaker 12: in the Cultural Review. But Channel nine are no doubt
34:05
Speaker 12: in damage control. They've now seen the exit of Mike Sneeze,
34:10
Speaker 12: me the CEO chair, Peter Costello, Victoria Bucken, and the
34:15
Speaker 12: news boss Darren Wick. It's been a revolving door of
34:19
Speaker 12: people leaving the company.
34:21
Speaker 3: The share prices in free fall. The company's in a mess.
34:25
Speaker 12: And they need a total overhaul because there's a lot
34:29
Speaker 12: of people very nervous, Sharry, as you would know about
34:33
Speaker 12: the findings of this cultural review that are due to
34:35
Speaker 12: be handed down by the Company Intersection by the end
34:38
Speaker 12: of this month.
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Speaker 2: And the staff are going to be expecting this report
34:43
Speaker 2: to be made public and for there to be real change.
34:46
Speaker 2: All right, Sophie Elsware, thank you so much for your
34:49
Speaker 2: time and insights, always excellent. Now still to come. Bill
34:53
Speaker 2: Clinton's gaff puts Kamala Harris in a world of pain.
34:56
Speaker 2: Let's have a look at what he said next. Plus
34:59
Speaker 2: when will is Rail retaliate against Iran? Peter Lerner will
35:03
Speaker 2: be on the show. That's all coming up. Welcome back
35:09
Speaker 2: with Peter Lerner is still coming up on the show.
35:11
Speaker 2: When can we expect Israel to retaliate against Iran. But
35:15
Speaker 2: now let's bring in senior fellow at the Menzies Research
35:18
Speaker 2: Center Nick Cata and former liberal minister Gary Hargrave. Welcome
35:22
Speaker 2: to you both, Hi, Sarry. Let's start with this promise
35:26
Speaker 2: to crack down on credit card or debit card rather
35:29
Speaker 2: search arges. So under this plan announced by Labor from
35:34
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, we'd no longer have to pay a
35:37
Speaker 2: fee when paying with our own money on debit cards,
35:41
Speaker 2: although credit card fees would still apply, Nick Cata, given
35:46
Speaker 2: cash is on the way out, it is really absurd
35:48
Speaker 2: that we still have these fees for using cards.
35:54
Speaker 1: Yeah.
35:54
Speaker 13: Yeah, first, Showy, just let me be just me congratulate
35:57
Speaker 13: you on the work you did last week. It was
35:59
Speaker 13: very important. It's what we pay the ABC to do.
36:02
Speaker 13: Unfortunately we had to get it from you. Great reporting. Look,
36:05
Speaker 13: you're right, I mean what makes me particularly frustrated about
36:08
Speaker 13: this is that you know so many places will not
36:12
Speaker 13: allow you to take to to give cash anymore. I mean,
36:16
Speaker 13: I would much prefer to give cash most of the time,
36:18
Speaker 13: and usually try, but you run out, you run out
36:22
Speaker 13: of patience with some of the places that refuse to
36:24
Speaker 13: take it, and insist on taking your credit card or
36:26
Speaker 13: your debit card if you're more careful with your money.
36:29
Speaker 13: And I do think that the I agree with the
36:33
Speaker 13: Peter Dutton that this is just a plan for a
36:35
Speaker 13: plan right now, but I think it's something both parties
36:38
Speaker 13: should look at because it seems to be only fair
36:40
Speaker 13: that you're simply withdrawing money out of your own account
36:43
Speaker 13: in the case for debit card, and it seems completely
36:46
Speaker 13: wrong that you should be charged a surcharge for that.
36:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the plan for a plan.
36:51
Speaker 2: So the obn easy government is committing two point one
36:54
Speaker 2: million dollars to the a Triple Ce to investigate this further.
36:57
Speaker 3: I mean, Gary, why not just scrap the fees?
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Speaker 1: Now?
37:00
Speaker 3: What do you need to investigate?
37:04
Speaker 1: Yeah?
37:04
Speaker 14: Look, I understand the argument, but I've got to tell
37:06
Speaker 14: you Sharry, and I echo Nick's congratulations on terific work
37:10
Speaker 14: last week. Isn't it great to see an Australian bringing
37:13
Speaker 14: that perspective? But can I just say the thing about
37:17
Speaker 14: the fee, If it's disclosed, at least you know you're
37:20
Speaker 14: paying it and your cash might be on.
37:22
Speaker 1: The way out. But there are those who.
37:24
Speaker 14: Aren't happy about that, and it's still ultimately legal tender
37:28
Speaker 14: and for places to refuse cash seems counterintuitive to me.
37:31
Speaker 1: So if you get rid of the.
37:32
Speaker 14: Fee, and the fee is just buried into the cost,
37:34
Speaker 14: it's going to be the small business that's.
37:36
Speaker 1: Going to have to jack up the prices. So we're
37:38
Speaker 1: going to pay it no matter what.
37:40
Speaker 14: So I actually think it's not unreasonable to have a
37:43
Speaker 14: line item on your bill it says and transaction fee.
37:46
Speaker 1: I get the anger. I paid one today.
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Speaker 14: It's what a bit over a percent for some places,
37:52
Speaker 14: some places it's even more. But I think that this
37:56
Speaker 14: is a disclosure that is once taken away, is going
37:58
Speaker 14: to be convenient to the banks and the credit card
38:01
Speaker 14: machine people, the tyros and people like that, and it's
38:05
Speaker 14: going to disadvantage small businesses because people are just going
38:08
Speaker 14: to get angry. The prices are going to go up
38:10
Speaker 14: without explanation. So I think there's a little honesty in
38:13
Speaker 14: knowing that there is a search arge.
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Speaker 3: Well, they'd have to scrap the fee, just a thought.
38:17
Speaker 2: They'd have to scrap the fee for the small businesses
38:19
Speaker 2: as well, you'd think, But I want to move on
38:22
Speaker 2: to look at ones they'd have to they'd have to.
38:25
Speaker 2: Let's have a look at the Kammanda Harris campaign wheeled
38:28
Speaker 2: out former President Bill Clinton today. This was to help
38:31
Speaker 2: garner support of voters, But then there was a bit
38:34
Speaker 2: of a blunder. It was an event in Georgia, and
38:37
Speaker 2: he suggested that Georgia nursing student Lake and Riley's death
38:41
Speaker 2: might not have happened if the illegal immigrant had been
38:45
Speaker 2: properly vetted. So this was seeming to blame the Biden administration.
38:50
Speaker 3: Have a quick look.
38:52
Speaker 15: You got a case in Georgia not very long ago,
38:54
Speaker 15: didn't They made an ad about it, But it what
38:57
Speaker 15: the young woman who'd been killed by an emigrant. Yeah,
39:01
Speaker 15: well if they then properly vetted, that probably wouldn't have happened.
39:06
Speaker 1: But if they are properly vetted and.
39:08
Speaker 2: That doesn't happen, I mean, Nick Kta, this has got
39:12
Speaker 2: her bit. Clinton has to know what he's doing. Is
39:15
Speaker 2: a very smart guy. Was this an attack on Kamala
39:18
Speaker 2: Harris's record?
39:21
Speaker 13: Well, I look, it shows two things. First up, one
39:25
Speaker 13: is that the Democrats know that they are being hit
39:28
Speaker 13: very badly by this issue. That American people are really
39:31
Speaker 13: very very annoyed about these borders being open and it's
39:34
Speaker 13: a very dangerous situation. The second thing I think it
39:37
Speaker 13: shows is just how shame faced and unembarrassed Democrats can be,
39:42
Speaker 13: you know now trying to set themselves up apparently, and
39:46
Speaker 13: Kamala's being the same as the Party of the Tough Borders.
39:49
Speaker 13: I mean it's rather like Genghis Khan setting himself up
39:53
Speaker 13: as a man of peace, isn't it. I mean it's
39:54
Speaker 13: just nuts, but they'll try it. They'll try it because
39:57
Speaker 13: they really really know this is hurting No.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, Gary Hargrover, I actually want to ask you about
40:03
Speaker 2: Victorian Liberal leader John Persuito because he survived a party
40:07
Speaker 2: room meeting without a leadership challenge. Here he was afterwards
40:11
Speaker 2: trying to put it all behind him.
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Speaker 6: Are you happy that there was no film?
40:16
Speaker 8: Well?
40:17
Speaker 16: I don't know what all that was about, to be honest,
40:19
Speaker 16: but everybody's focused on the job ahead.
40:21
Speaker 6: Did you raise your defamation try I won't go.
40:24
Speaker 16: Into the detail, but I had a recap of the
40:27
Speaker 16: last month and I think it went very well.
40:30
Speaker 3: Gary.
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Speaker 2: There's been so much backgrounding about a potential spill and
40:35
Speaker 2: a better leader. I mean, surely Victorians need a stronger
40:39
Speaker 2: leader in the Liberal opposition.
40:43
Speaker 14: Yeah, and they've been sweating on one for a long time.
40:46
Speaker 14: A lot of normal Liberal voters in Victoria, that rare
40:49
Speaker 14: breed are sweating on somebody of some substance being the leader.
40:54
Speaker 1: And that month long trial would have gone.
40:56
Speaker 14: For about four days if Persuito hadn't sort of extended
40:59
Speaker 14: the evidence into great narratives about his own self importance.
41:02
Speaker 1: From what I could see of it.
41:03
Speaker 14: But anyway, it was a soap opera that's been going
41:06
Speaker 14: on for ages. Look, I think the guy's got to go.
41:09
Speaker 14: He's got to fall on his sword and hasn't going
41:10
Speaker 14: to be a very long sword. Only a short one
41:12
Speaker 14: will get rid of him. But he's got to go.
41:14
Speaker 14: And the Liberals have got to refurbish themselves. Victoria needs
41:18
Speaker 14: desperately a change the government, but they're not going to
41:20
Speaker 14: vote for something if they're not certain about what they're
41:22
Speaker 14: going to get.
41:23
Speaker 1: And I mean Queensland has.
41:24
Speaker 14: Got a similar problem where there's a bit of a
41:27
Speaker 14: Victorian Liberals feel about the Liberal National Party in a
41:30
Speaker 14: lot of minds as well.
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Speaker 1: So this is not a good time, not a good
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Speaker 1: time at all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Nick Kata, Gary Hargrave, thank you both
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Speaker 2: very much for your time. Now still to come the
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Speaker 2: US to send an anti missile system and troops to Israel.
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Speaker 2: I'll speak with Peter Lerner from the IDF about this
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Speaker 2: and the threat of Around's nuclear program. That's after this
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Speaker 2: quick break, Welcome back.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 2: American media has reported that he's Raeli Prime Minister Netanya
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Speaker 2: who was only going to hit military targets rather than
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Speaker 2: oil or nuclear sites when he retaliates against Iran for
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Speaker 2: those two hundred ballistic missiles nearly two weeks ago. But
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Speaker 2: then a statement from Netanya Who's office today said we
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Speaker 2: listen to the opinions of the United States, but we
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Speaker 2: will make our final decisions based on our national interests.
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Speaker 2: And I've got to tell you that's the strength I
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Speaker 2: saw when I met with Netanyahu last week, that he's
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Speaker 2: not going to succumb to pressure from the international community
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Speaker 2: if it's not in the best interests of Israel's survival. Well,
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Speaker 2: let's cross live now to Israel, where IDF International spokesman
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Speaker 2: Lieutenant Colonel Peter Lerner joins me. Peter, thank you for
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Speaker 2: your time. Does this mean that strikes on Iran's nuclear
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Speaker 2: sites are still a live option on the table?
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Speaker 6: Charry?
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Speaker 17: The idea has put on the table for the government
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Speaker 17: a vast spectrum of different options that the IDEAF can
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Speaker 17: employ and deploy to and I think that this is
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Speaker 17: not necessarily something we need to talk about openly, but
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Speaker 17: of course there is many different options. The contrary to
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Speaker 17: non state actors like Hesbalah or Hamas Iran, the Islamic
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Speaker 17: Republic is a nation state and they have assets and
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Speaker 17: interests that can all be hurt.
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Speaker 2: Look if the nuclear sites aren't targeted now by Israel.
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Speaker 2: There has been speculation about whether the US would support
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Speaker 2: this when it's in the middle of an election campaign.
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Speaker 3: Iran's nuclear capabilities.
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Speaker 2: Though at some point they do need to be dismantled
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Speaker 2: before nuclear weapons are developed, because that would pose a
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Speaker 2: threat to the entire world, I mean including US here
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Speaker 2: in Australia.
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Speaker 17: Absolutely, Iran is the disruptor and destabilizer of the region
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Speaker 17: and well beyond the region, and I think it is
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Speaker 17: in everybody's interest they do not have a nuclear capability,
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Speaker 17: and that is why, of course there is a huge concern,
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Speaker 17: and I think we've seen several governments over the last
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Speaker 17: few weeks institute new sanctions on Islamic Republic leadership of
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Speaker 17: their military apparatus and beyond. And I think that this
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Speaker 17: is a huge concern for the world and what we've
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Speaker 17: seen on our borders and when you saw and you
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Speaker 17: got up close, the reality here is one where Iran
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Speaker 17: and their backed proxies have been empowered with strategic weapons
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Speaker 17: on our border and none of this would be able
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Speaker 17: to take place if it were not for the Islamic
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Speaker 17: Republic of Iran. So I think there is a huge
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Speaker 17: concern is they are the destabilizer and they are the disruptor,
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Speaker 17: and they have to be held accountable for the actions
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Speaker 17: of launching one hundred and eighty one ballistic missiles on Israel.
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Speaker 17: You know, one is unacceptable, one hundred and eighty one
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Speaker 17: is despicable.
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Speaker 2: No, indeed, And so we've heard that Joe Biden has
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Speaker 2: now said he's going to help defend Israel by sending
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Speaker 2: an advanced air defense system known as fad or thhd
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Speaker 2: ID to Israel to help prevent or intercept similar ballistic
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Speaker 2: missiles from Iran. The Pentagon saying it's going to send
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Speaker 2: one hundred troops on the ground to help operate this system.
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Speaker 2: Is this, How will this system help Israel? It's already
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Speaker 2: got the Iron Dome, So can you explain how this
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Speaker 2: is different.
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Speaker 17: Israel's aerial defenses are I would say, the best in
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Speaker 17: the world, but every air defense system is not airtight.
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Speaker 17: Our aerial defense like the Iron Dome, but also like
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Speaker 17: David Sling and the arrow systems, they work on different
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Speaker 17: levels of the atmosphere, above atmosphere and beneath the atmosphere
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Speaker 17: and lower levels, and each component of this aerial defense
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Speaker 17: system has a role in defending our airspace. The THAD mechanism,
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Speaker 17: which is a US based operations system, is something that
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Speaker 17: throughout the course of many years, the IDEF and the
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Speaker 17: US Armed Forces have exercised together precisely for a scenario
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Speaker 17: that Iran could jeopardize Israel's sky. So I think, and
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Speaker 17: I won't speak on behalf of the Americans, that I
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Speaker 17: understand that there is a joint interest, like we spoke beforehand,
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Speaker 17: and therefore they are definitely leaning into defenders well and
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Speaker 17: defenders ral sky. The defense mechanisms is just one component though,
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Speaker 17: of course, of our system. There's the active defense systems
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Speaker 17: like the Iron Dome, but it's also the individual responsibility
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Speaker 17: that we put on each and every citizen. You heard
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Speaker 17: the sirens when you're here, Each an individual needs to
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Speaker 17: take responsibility, So there's passive defense systems also individual responsibility,
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Speaker 17: and then of course that complimented with the offensive activities.
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Speaker 17: We're not going to take it anything sitting down or
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Speaker 17: lying down from our military is responsible for engaging, for
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Speaker 17: dealing a strong deterring, deterring but also decisive to those
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Speaker 17: that seek us out. And I would definitely suggest to
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Speaker 17: the Islamic Republic of Iran to look at very closely
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Speaker 17: how we have destroyed and dismantled Hamas, it's leadership, it's
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Speaker 17: capability to carry out in October seventh attack ever again,
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Speaker 17: and what we've done to Hasbullah its most formidable proxy
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Speaker 17: on our border in the north, Hasbulla who have been decapitated.
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Speaker 17: We've taken out vast majority or a huge element of
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Speaker 17: their strategic capability. The levels of their operations are diminished,
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Speaker 17: and the operational capability of actually conducting attacks against US
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Speaker 17: is also extremely limited. It's not completely gone, but considering
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Speaker 17: the fact that for twenty years they've been building this
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Speaker 17: capability Iran on our border, that Bulla's been training and
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Speaker 17: building their forces.
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Speaker 3: Apologies for interrupting.
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Speaker 2: We've just got less than a minute, and I just
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Speaker 2: want to get this final question in Before we Go,
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Speaker 2: can you tell me just how close Iran is to
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Speaker 2: developing a functioning nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 17: I don't want to go into this type of discussion.
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Speaker 17: It is a concern as well, has been concerned about
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Speaker 17: it for many years. The world needs to rally around
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Speaker 17: this idea that this destabilizer of the Middle East and
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Speaker 17: beyond cannot hold. Imagine conducting a wall against the our
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Speaker 17: enemies today if Iran was a nuclear power.
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Speaker 2: No, absolutely terrifying thought, Peter Lerner. I really appreciate your time.
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Speaker 2: The insights have been invaluable. Thank you very much. Now
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Speaker 2: that's it for me. I'll see you tomorrow night at
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Speaker 2: eight o'clock. Another big show as always, but right now
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Speaker 2: Paul Murray is back.