Latest / Coconut Justice / CJP #42: Kevin Eisele (CA-2)
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- speaker-0: Hey, what's good? Kevin Eisele is a former U.S. Army medic, healthcare worker, union member, and working class father. He spent 30 years in the operating room and years before that serving in the infantry. Now he's running for Congress in California's second district. This is my conversation with Kevin Eisele Before we get into it, remember to go to coconutjustice.com to get you some clothes that I think would look good on you. Let's go. I am excited about this episode because I'm going to be able to brag about Northern California for two, at least two solid hours. That's because you guys, we have Kevin Isley, California Second District. How are you, Kevin? speaker-1: I'm doing well. Thank you for having me on. speaker-0: Thanks for coming on. So California 2, we already talked to California ⁓ Kyle, who's running for California 1. Yes. And you're running for California 2. So where does your district begin and his end? speaker-1: So fun fact before Prop 50, Kyle and I were running against each other because he lived in that half of Santa Rosa that belonged to CA 2. The other half of the along to CA 1, I think, but the redistricting. So after redistricting, he's in his own place now in CA 1. So it goes from the Marin County, the Golden Gate Bridge to the Oregon border. And after Prop 50, it turns right to take out Shasta County, Siskiyou County. and Murdoch County because these are extremely red districts. speaker-0: And that that whole that shape is specifically because of Prop 50? speaker-1: Yes, it used to go ⁓ straight up to Santa Rosa, basically, and then make a left turn and do the Los Co. So it had Mendocino County and it had Humboldt County. And it went to the Oregon border. Very narrow. lot of agriculture ⁓ plus Humboldt County agriculture. And now it's going into Shasta and those big agricultural. There's a lot of ag. speaker-0: Yeah, I've been to Mendocino, Mendocino is gorgeous. speaker-1: I haven't seen a bad place in Northern California. Just Highway 5. speaker-0: You're not wrong. The worst. Yeah, Highway 5 goes right by Mount Shasta. Mount Shasta is gorgeous. speaker-1: ⁓ yeah, it's phenomenal. I love Shasta. I love the area. I love Lassen. I love the Alps out there. So it's beautiful. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah, I don't, that's what I don't, before we started recording, we were talking about Florida and how flat it is and wet it is and hot it is and all that stuff. I'm originally from Chicago. It's pretty flat there too. But when I come out here, I still, every once in a while, I get taken aback. I'll be walking my dogs or something. And I look around and it's not buildings, it's mountains and nature. That's one of my favorite things about up here. speaker-1: I grew up in Reno, so I grew up navigating by where the mountains are. That's how I know how to get places. And when I lived on the East Coast, I always got lost, especially North Carolina. It's just trees, trees, trees, trees, trees, town. Like, where am I? I'd miss exits. speaker-0: So yeah, it depends on where you are too is like strip mall strip mall strip mall strip mall strip mall tree speaker-1: I need I need to be in mountains. I love elevation. Yeah, I like high elevation. Really, I like riding my bike at high elevation. Fun. Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. So were you born and raised in Reno? speaker-1: I was born in Casper, Wyoming. I have a lot of family in Wyoming, Montana. And then I moved to Reno when I was two and grew up in Reno. did three, I two and a half years of high school in Ventura, California. And then we had to move back to Reno for my final senior year. speaker-0: Were you always politically inclined? Nope. No? What were you interested in when you were in high school? ⁓ speaker-1: I want to be a filmmaker. In high school, in high school, I wanted to be a photographer, fashion photographer that transitioned into music videos and then into film. And I wanted to live a crazy life and write about it. speaker-0: I love that. A little Hunter S. Thompson-esque. speaker-1: Yeah, actually, I wasn't prepared for this question, but Spike Jonze. I really liked Spike Jonze. So he started with Thrasher magazine as a photographer. Then he went into the Beastie Boys music videos and then he made really good movies like Being John Malkovich. His career was my dream. speaker-0: Yeah. Did you how far along that path did you go? speaker-1: I didn't go anywhere. I I did a lot of I did a lot of photography. I want to be a photographer. I joined the military right after high school and ⁓ in the military, I got accepted to Brooks College, which is a I mean, Brooks Institute of Photography, which is a ⁓ photography school in Santa Barbara. And my parents talked me out of it. My dad is a cop. My mom is a nurse. They wanted me to do a trade, but I want to be a filmmaker. So they were like, go to nursing school. I'm like, I don't want to go to nursing school. They were like, be a cop. Because when you get out of the military, your dad's a cop. They take you to the station and say, you want to be a cop? No, I don't. So I went to a school that teaches surgical technology. It's not a degree. It's a certificate. And I do that. And nobody knows what it is. speaker-0: Any cameras at all in that? ⁓ speaker-1: ⁓ I take amazing photos in there. Yeah, I don't put them up on Instagram. I give them to the doctors and the residents. The residents love it because their mothers are like really proud of like, ⁓ my God, you're really doing surgery. But I follow everything in HIPAA. There is no identifying marks on the patient that I take up. It's them doing stuff and they got bloody hands and a suture or a big drill in ortho. They love it. speaker-0: Yeah. There's some like when I'm when I'm feeling adventurous, I'll watch ⁓ operations and surgeries and stuff like that. But boy, when that drill and the hammer gets going. speaker-1: You can either take it or you can't. speaker-0: Yeah, I think I can take it if I needed to, but boy, that sound, it's never, it's always a surprise. speaker-1: Still hate the sound when I go to the dentist and have to drill something. speaker-0: hated. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So you did Reno. ⁓ And so folks, if you don't know like where we live, Kevin basically lives in the town next door to me. To get to Reno, it's probably about a I'd say probably about a four hour drive. Yeah. Yeah. And if you look over my shoulder, It's ⁓ Lake Tahoe and Lake Tahoe and Reno are probably about half hour 45 minutes away from each other. speaker-1: I grew up there. I grew up skiing there. And my parents had a boat on Tahoe, so we sail Tahoe all summer. So, it was neat. speaker-0: ⁓ cool. I hang out in what's called now Olympic Village. used to be Squaw Village. ⁓ That big old... The Palisades. Yeah, now it's the Palisades. ⁓ Did you happen to hear what a bunch of rich folks were trying to do with the Palisades? speaker-1: The Palisades. I thought a bunch of rich folks already had the palisades. speaker-0: They have the palisades, but they're trying to build like a big water park and all kinds. They're trying to make it a huge attraction without realizing that it's only a two lane road to go in and to come out. Yeah. Yeah. When the snow is good, you can't get out of there. speaker-1: that's already really packed. I don't think that would ever happen. It's or when it's warm, everybody goes up when it's warm. They swim in the lake. Why have a big water? speaker-0: That's true. So, ⁓ they're in, in, ⁓ Olympic Villa or, ⁓ the Palisades. There's the hotel there with a gorgeous golf course. That's really tough. speaker-1: There is no place that in Tahoe that is not absolutely gorgeous. My favorite place is going up from South Lake Tahoe towards Emerald Bay. And you get to that narrow part where on one side it's a lake and on the other side it's Lake Tahoe and you feel really narrow. It's just like cliffs going down. Riding your bike there is like, well, you know, it's beautiful if this is the last ride I ever do. ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've taken people from the Midwest around, like we've driven around Lake Tahoe. And, you know, Chicago folks were tainted because we think lakes are all like as big as oceans. But when you come out here and you have a proper lake, it takes a handful of hours to get around Lake Tahoe, but all of it is beautiful. speaker-1: Yeah, absolutely. Deep, too. It's very deep lake. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah, and people say that I know a couple people that say that they've seen Tessie. speaker-1: She must live very deep. I've never seen it. But like one of the great things about being a kid out there, we had a boat and we like to sail into Emerald Bay and spend the night. And so you went fashion. I was a kid. There was less light pollution and you just lay on the boat at night looking up and it's the entire Milky Way. You just see every. speaker-0: I know, I know that's one of the coolest things out here living in the country specifically, because people think Sonoma is all glitz and glamour. No, it's country. It's a bunch of farmers and the downtown area with some really good restaurants. But one of the cool things is that you can start seeing the stars again. Yeah. mean, to see, to, see the stuff that you're talking about, you have to get away from where we are, but speaker-1: you speaker-0: At least you're able to see some of the stars here. speaker-1: Yeah, some. mean, the Milky Way is really unique, but you've got to go to Eastern Oregon, really northern Nevada, you know, and and northern California. I mean, if you get way out there, not Shasta, but way out there, you're going to see the Milky Way. speaker-0: Yeah, I've been trying to plan a trip ⁓ to go be in the middle of darkness like that and do astrophotography. ⁓ Just never been able to get to that point yet, but it's definitely on the to-do list. speaker-1: Massacre Ridge, they say, is the best place within our vicinity. speaker-0: massacre ridge. Yep. speaker-1: That's where it's in Nevada where it meets Oregon and California. It's that sort of triangle area. It's a dark... It's a registered dark sanctuary. speaker-0: side. Nice. You talked about living on the East Coast? speaker-1: So with my job, you can be a traveler where hospitals will buy your contract for three months at a time. So I went to Duke University for six months. And so could see the East Coast. I love South Carolina and beautiful out there, but it's not my cup of tea. I don't like all the trees and no mountains. Can't live with it. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah, I, that's one of the things I say about Northern California is the, the connection that we still have to nature. know, like it's, it's, it's, it's a thing. We don't just talk about it. We live it. We take care of our environment. You know, when you go hiking, when you go camping, when you do anything, folks are always saying, you know, leave it better than you found it. speaker-1: Yes. Yeah, and California and they believe it. And if you want to be in thick trees, we have redwoods up in Mendocino County, redwoods in Humboldt County. We have mirror woods in here, but you're not always surrounded by trees with no vision of what's actually around you. And that's kind of what I thought of North Carolina. I couldn't see the forest through the tree. speaker-0: At what age did you come to Northern California and set up shop here? speaker-1: So as a kid growing up in Reno, San Francisco was always our big annual car trip. And so I came here a lot. And then I came here officially first in 1998 as a traveler. And I liked it. But I did one last big thing to make movies. And I got a contract at UCLA. And so I was there for about nine months and got very discouraged. Then I went to Atlanta and then I came back and back to. It's a really fun place to visit. Yeah, I would never. The traffic is insane because it's a wagon wheel. Yeah, you have downtown, midtown Buckhead and they have round highways and then they have highways that come straight into it. So it looks like a wagon wheel and the traffic is insane. speaker-0: Maybe like Atlanta. I've been talking to a lot of people from Atlanta lately, a lot of creative folks, and they're saying that it's beautiful and it's creative and they love it, but they almost have too much creative people accumulated there. No, I agree. speaker-1: I don't think that could ever happen. I mean, if you're in a cafe and two thirds of that cafe are creative, they're doing stuff and you talk to them and they see the world differently than you and you see it differently to them. I I like people who don't see the world the way I do. speaker-0: And then you sprinkle some travel in there. Yes. The best thing. There's a saying that I always try to remember, but I always beat it up. ⁓ travel, what is it? Travel fixes, racism and reading fixes, ignorance. ⁓ what it is? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ so simple is so ⁓ speaker-1: Travel's the best thing. Ignorance. That's what I heard of that, yes. speaker-0: to developing as a human. Just get out there and experience, ask questions from people. speaker-1: Yeah, but if you're like the kind of traveler that's going to go to Paris and you're going to only go where everybody goes, you're going to see the French people as kind of mean, kind of negative. But to correlate it with the Bay Area, if you're a traveler and you go to San Francisco and the only place you really see is Pier 39, people are not nice down there. Right. People working in Pier 39 aren't nice. It's too many travel. You know, it's too many vacationers. So. speaker-0: Yeah. ⁓ speaker-1: Lyon, France, those places, mean, just a little bit more off. Saint Remy is my favorite place in France. speaker-0: Yeah, that's what I say when people say, where do I go when I visit Chicago? I say, you got to get into the neighborhoods. You know, to the mom and pop restaurants. You got to get out of downtown. speaker-1: I've been to Chicago once and I did all the touristy stuff. think I had it. Geno's pizza, maybe. But yeah, yeah, I walked down the riverfront. I saw that big orb thing that's down there. I. ⁓ speaker-0: They call it the bean. It's technically called the cloudscape, but it's the bean. speaker-1: I am not innocent of touristy things. speaker-0: I'm not either, bye. speaker-1: I'm having one day if I one day I have one day. I want a pizza. speaker-0: Yeah, exactly. If that's what if that's places known for that, do that. Yeah. You know, and then and then, you know, if you don't want to go into the neighborhoods, don't it's fine. Get some pizza. Get some hot dogs. Get some food. speaker-1: I recommend anybody, if you want to see something, be there 48 to 72 hours, kind of minimum. If you're there one day, you're just going to do it and have that conversation with people who have been like, oh yeah, I've eaten at that place or whatever. speaker-0: Yeah, three solid days. Four is good. You got your, you know, you got your sea legs back and you're, you're out there and you're going to recognize a couple of people on the street say, Hey, how are you? And they're going to give you some tips. speaker-1: Yeah, what I love about it. mean, spend two days in San Francisco and just get in a car and go. The tourists I like the most who come to San Francisco are the ones that get on bicycles right across the Golden Gate Bridge. Yeah. And just go to Sausalito or go to Tiburon and get on a boat, a ferry and come back. You did some exercise. You really saw the Golden Gate Bridge. And as a cyclist who lived in San Francisco for 21 years, for me to say that is tough because we hate them on the bridge. speaker-0: They're swimming. Whenever I'm driving on the bridge, see. speaker-1: And I'm trying to get back and I'm just riding fast into my own. You're my way. But there's still the people I respect the most. Right. Like, you're doing it. You're doing you're using your body. You're in motion. And yeah, it's beautiful. I love seeing people in motion doing something. Exercise. I like seeing people eat pizza. I think you'll eat healthy food. Yeah. speaker-0: I'm like that with art. I love watching people paint. I love watching people design. I've been caught watching people code. As they live stream, they're coding. It's that process that I enjoy. ⁓ speaker-1: you The thing I don't like is seeing people so attached to their phone, not seeing their life. That's what's in front of them. And I'm kind of lucky because I'm 56. So I lived most of my life without a phone. Slightly addicted to it, that is for sure. But yes. speaker-0: It could be worse. speaker-1: Yeah, it's just it's it's really hard to see that sometimes because life is passing us by and the distractions are Orwellian and we're seeing that speaker-0: powers that be are definitely reaching too far. don't even mind people that are using their phones and stuff while they're traveling and they're taking pictures and they're having fun. As long as you're having fun, do that. But don't be somewhere cool. Just face down in a phone. speaker-1: And seeing people just sit in a cafe, all of them are on their phone and nobody's talking to each other. And the biggest problem we have in this country at this point, and worldwide, is we have stopped talking to each other. speaker-0: Yeah. 100 percent. speaker-1: We don't wait in line. Yeah, I don't do anything. The man who invented the ATM, his wife never used it because she liked standing in line at the bank. She liked talking to the teller. She liked talking to people around her, staying connected to the community. Yeah. And now we have Amazon delivery. We click something. They give it to us. And there's so little reason to connect with people. And yet now is the most important time. to connect with people. speaker-0: And not as an asshole. No. when... Right. Don't leverage this magical social media thing that we have just to try to ruin someone's day. That's not... Like if you were to leverage the connection to all these people in a positive way, this whole place would be positive. speaker-1: That's not connecting. That's just being honest. RIght. Yeah, I had a YouTube channel up until COVID about road cycling. And I traveled in Europe and rode my bike. All the rides around here. I did a lot of things. did product review, all of that stuff. And I've had people from Europe come here and contact me and say, I love your channel. You want to ride? When we went to Girona, Spain, I ran into somebody who followed me. I'm like, he's like, yo, are you Kevin? And so that was social media. That was a positive connection with people. And ⁓ that is some of the great things about technology is the barrier to entry has sort of been removed, but it feels like it's coming back. So like with TikTok, it's just now, I think, a massive surveillance thing. And that's what they wanted. You can't say certain things on Israel on about Israel on TikTok. You're banned. And so that's not the First Amendment, in my opinion. speaker-0: Yeah. or whatever files or, or, or like they are definitely, yeah. And, and I mean, Orwellian again, it's the perfect word. It's Orwellian when the powers that be are forcing you and trying to, the current administration is tricking us into trying to ⁓ not believe what we see and not believe what we hear. And not just what's happening in Minnesota either, like just everything. They're trying to force their own reality. speaker-1: Biden did that too. Obama did that Bush did that Clinton did that Reagan did that. That's it's been happening this whole time. Yeah, and it's we're just sort of as my my 12 year old said we're starting hitting the peak like like this is the peak moment it feels like but if you really look at the timeline of this starts with the American worker, but where we are today. We have left capitalism, in my opinion. We are a corporatocracy. I think we're a corporatocracy. speaker-0: 100%. 100%. I mean, just the fact that you said ⁓ Amazon and all these other corporations, TikTok, they're telling you what to do and how to do and when to do and all this stuff. You're not truly living a free life. You're being told what to do. You're being told where to stand. You're being told how far to stand away from each other. speaker-1: Well, yeah. And I was I was a front facing health care worker during all of that. And so. ⁓ It was crazy. I mean, it wasn't as crazy here as was in other places, because here people still got outside, right? Still breathe. Sure. We knew a kid in those trees. Yeah, my son had a classmate who didn't leave the house for a year. And every day I worked, I worked a later shift during Covid. ⁓ speaker-0: ⁓ How was that? we keep talking about. speaker-1: I could get Parker going into school, you know, the Zooms. And ⁓ every morning, every morning, we rode our bike through Golden Gate Park outside breathing because it's a respiratory thing. Right. Why would you be inside? And but yeah, it was crazy. And, know, now we know, like a certain it was a certain group of people that died or got seriously injured. It wasn't everybody the kid. It wasn't the kids unless they had all these comorbidities. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Lesson learned, hopefully. speaker-0: Right, well, for me the lesson learned is why are we pushing money towards making Uber viruses? If it doesn't exist in nature, why are we spending money to make it? speaker-1: I don't know. Gain of function is supposed to be illegal in this country under Obama. But I think like everything else, it was told to us it was illegal. A lot of things are told they're illegal, but they're doing it. And they say it's all for national security. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. You lived in San Francisco for 21 years. speaker-1: Yes. And for most of it, I lived on the Embarcadero. Across the street from the Ferry Building, there's a tall, white high-rise with balconies. That's where I lived. speaker-0: Okay. ⁓ cool. It was awesome. Beautiful. That's a beautiful area. It is. ⁓ I have a I have a video on this channel. If you're interested in seeing this area that he's talking about. The Embarcadero is the ⁓ that's the place where the the remove the regime. No kings, no kings happened down there. And it started in the Embarcadero. We went up whatever road that was. I can't remember what it was, but ⁓ So you lived in San Francisco for 21 years and when I talk to people from the East Coast they have a tendency to say, ⁓ San Francisco people poop in the streets. You ever see anybody poop in the streets? speaker-1: ⁓ there are places where people are strung out so bad and businesses won't let them in. So there are, and that's a part of why I'm running is to end that. I have ideas that will work. think I hope, I hope people believe it. ⁓ you know, cause, cause I'm the kind of person that says you don't, you know, you can't solve the problem without solving the problem. Right. And an easy example of this, of what I mean is when the government shut down, people got mad that no snap benefits were being paid. Not mad at by why so many people are on snap benefits, why Wal-Mart can pay so low that their employees are on snap benefits. The majority of people on snap benefits work. So be mad at that and solve that problem. Not they're not getting this. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: And it's not a complicated problem to solve. It's really simple, but anything simple is hard. And it's hard to convince people. It's like the no Kings March. I don't like those things, right? Cause the vast majority of those people at the no Kings March will still vote the same way. They will not pay attention to what their congressman is doing, what their mayor is doing. So the mayor of San Francisco has just installed a massive Surveillance apparatus every parking garage has a license plate reader. There are drones. There's more cameras in the name of security, but he was willing to give up a little bit of freedom for a little bit of security design deserves neither, you know, Thomas Jefferson and we've given this up. So you want to fix homelessness fix it. speaker-0: That's where I start to get upset. That's where my voice starts to raise and that's where I let the Latino out. folks think that investing in different neighborhoods, let's say San Francisco. Instead of properly investing in things like, ⁓ I don't know, education and ⁓ giving some of these homeless people that everyone complains about, giving them resources to actually improve their situation. But no, instead we put in license plate readers and drones and cameras all over the place. speaker-1: ⁓ right. Cause we created this intentionally. It has been a long process. There is a timeline. If you, if you look at it, there's two timelines I always look at, right? There's pre 2000 and then there's nine 11. So on nine 11, we were attacked. We know, we know planes flew into buildings and that scared everybody. So they passed the Patriot act, which is warrantless. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: everything right fine from that we changed the immigration and naturalization service the keyword is service to immigration customs and enforcement so now we're militarizing through the patriot act immigration okay that was very intentional then comes ⁓ eight right people lose their houses people i believe obama was the first populist uprising speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: vote, right? So he took away everybody's house to foam the runways for the banks. He could have put the banks into receivership, broken them up and went back to community banking. That's what people were expecting. And then he forces the ACA on people. And because of these two things, conservative minded people, they blamed the government for everything and they wanted to get rid of it like by speaker-0: But to be fair, they blame the government on everything. Right. For everything. But this is actually something that would stick. speaker-1: Well, yeah, and I agree with what they want to do. By your Congress. I didn't at the time. I thought they were just a bunch of crazy people because I was ideologically locked to the left. Yeah, they were wrong. We're right. And so then a couple of years later and the media pushed that narrative, right? They're wrong. They're blaming the government and now they're taking action to try to change the government. Then a couple of years later, you get the Occupy movement from the left. And that scared the government, remember, because At that point, the left and the right would come together like a Reese's peanut butter cup and be like, you're all right. You're actually right. Both sides. It is the banks and it is the government. So they had to break that up and they went after everything and then birther that got the left really mad. All of these things started happening. So then there was a second populist uprising with the election in twenty twenty six and the Democrats put the thumb on the scale for Hillary, because they think they know better than us. 18 % of would-be voters for Bernie Sanders voted for Trump. This proves a populist uprising. We are screaming at everybody, but it's screaming into the void. becomes kind of, everybody said he would be this thing. He wasn't, but it got everybody motivated and riled up. Then they elect Biden, right? And Biden does all of these things that hurt American people. They're working and now we're here. Right. So this is a timeline that has happened under all of these presidents, all of these policies. And now we have Palantir, Oracle. We have all of these things that are happening. Please. You drive down the highway. I did a ride along with the Highway Patrol a few weeks ago and he's like, ⁓ yeah, this thing on top of the car reads license plates constantly. and it goes to flock and then flock goes to Palantir. This is where we have gotten from this timeline. But we couldn't have gotten there if it wasn't for the pre-2000s. If it wasn't for Ronald Reagan taking out the unions, I call that the rope it up. Right. If you want to get NAFTA passed, you have to take out the union protection of of it. Right. All the workers. So you rope it up. And so now they can't lift their arms in defense of NAFTA taking away their jobs, the American Crime Bill putting everybody, all these people in prison, which ⁓ they were going to for profit prisons, by the way, which we're hearing a lot about now, GEO and them. So he blew he blew them up. He took away Glass-Steagall, which allowed 08 to happen. Glass-Steagall prevented the investment side of banks from talking to the deposit side, which is what this is what private equity is. And we couldn't have it the way we have it unless Glass-Steagall was ⁓ repealed. before they were called corporate raiders. You know, if you remember the movie Pretty Woman, glamorizing it. So these are the timelines that are so scary and why we don't talk to each other. And if we just talk to each other, and I do, I talk to Trump voters, I talk to everybody. I have friends who are Trump voters. But are you friends with them? Do you talk to them? speaker-0: ⁓ yeah. I family members that are free from... I do. Yeah. We have way more in common than people want to admit. That's simple. Yeah. speaker-1: A lot of people don't know. One study found that we as Americans have 80 % in common. The closer you get to your house, the higher that gets because local politics gets involved, right? We have more and more. If I have a kid in school, we have a lot in common, especially if it's at the same school. And my campaign, one of the things I'm really running on is agriculture because Jared Huffman is anti agriculture and speaker-0: And this Jared guy, he's the guy you're running against. Anti agriculture. How are you anti agriculture? speaker-1: Jared Huffman has been in... Yes. So Jared Huffman is a at best a radical environmentalist. He's an environmental attorney. He was on the Marin water board when he was on the Marin water board. He made it so mountain bikers couldn't use the mountain properly. Like in a fun way. speaker-0: lot of mountain bikers that want him out ASAP. Right. speaker-1: And he used it and used used bad environmental information because it is a watershed. But he was paid to do all of that by the equestrians in Marin, who have a lot of money. So now that he's in Congress, he this is kind of what radicalized me to seriously run was in 2022, November of 2022, every single Democrat voted that the rail unions could not go on strike. And I'm a union worker. This Because Congress can shut down any strike for national security. And so the month after that, East Palestine happened. So they got a 25 % raise and that was it. But they were striking to hire more people because there's not enough people on the railways, which makes it dangerous for us. They don't get sick time and they're on call 24 hours a day with one day off a month. That means you can't see your kids play baseball or your daughter do a recital. You can't see these things. when you're in this and this was the strike and it was right before Thanksgiving. So that radicalized me to run against Jared Huffman. And I moved to Marin in 2021 from San Francisco. And then I hear the, this NGO is taking out dairies and farms from the Marin Agricultural Land Trust, MOLT. You've probably seen the signs if you're in Marin, that they're not organic. They're regenerative. And so some of these dairies like the Kehoe family, I read this article in the Point Raise Light about the Kehoe family. 103 years there. Dairy, their milk went to both Strauss and clover. They do regenerative farm practices. Albert Strauss pioneered feeding red algae in the mix to the cattle, which cuts methane in half, in half, and cows sequester more CO2 than methane they put out. These are these are things that environmentalists don't want you to know. So He took out ranches and dairies from Malt. Now they're trying to take out the dam, right? The dams up on the Eel River project that feed the Russian River. This will take out Sonoma County. This takes out 600,000 people, but it takes out more ranches and dairies up there because there won't be enough water. And we're seeing it from taking down the Calamath dams. And people who got energy from the Calamath dams, their rates doubled in, I think, six months. So your rates, my rates will double. We're a part of no- speaker-0: Let me jump in real quick because folks don't understand. ⁓ Calamath is in Oregon. So this is water that's coming down. ⁓ just so you see the interstate, ⁓ how we depend on each other. speaker-1: And if you're in Modoc, Siskiyou and Shasta County, you're affected by that. That is where your water source comes from. One of them, the main one and energy. So they're very affected by it. And this dam, Novato is northern Marin water district. We're affected. But southern Marin water district, which is just over the hill from Novato, when you get to Marin the next town, they're going to flood. speaker-0: What does that say, Rafael? speaker-1: No, the very. Yeah, basically. It's Carolina. I can't say this name right, but they're going to so who we reservoir by about, I think, nine feet, which will take out another ranch, by the way. And that that water goes to southern Marin. So the people who are funding these NGOs to take out the rivers or the dams to increase the volume of the river. speaker-0: ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: ⁓ and they're taking out all the dairies and ranches are the same people that are not affected by this. And they're the same people that when they go to a restaurant and they're getting a steak, it says where the steak came from. And then for the rest of us, if they keep this action, then we will ⁓ only be able to eat food from Tyson, right? These big mega corporations. an interesting fact and how you see this is national. I got to look at this because I wrote it down. Brazil has two, 238 million cattle. This is both beef and dairy cattle. America has 86 million cattle. It is the same amount we had in 1951. We're losing cattle every year because of these environmental politicians and environmental NGOs and environmental internees. speaker-0: Okay. speaker-1: This is anti-humanist. Should we have built the dams a hundred years ago? Probably not, but we did. And life sprung up around those dams and this will be totally destroyed. It's anti-humanist, right? And we have fires. ⁓ Where's the water storage to fight the fires? We have big fires where Pilbury Lake, you follow the planes, going in and out of Pilbury Lake. That would be destroyed because that's God's dam. So in... Just real quick, in 1951, had 160 million people in this country. Today we have 249 million. Same amount of cattle. And what's important about a cow is their apex grazers. And I didn't know any of this, but there's a podcaster who has also a blog, it's called America Unwon, and she's from Mendocino County. And she interviews all these people up there. And I learned about apex grazing. speaker-0: And we have a new reminder catalog. speaker-1: I learned about, you know, what it is, what's happening actually up there right now in Shasta County, the government saying one thing, but these people up there, these journalists who live there, they're saying another, and you're starting to see this whole thing. So anyway, this is how I learned about apex grazing, how cattle eat grass and turn it into 1.1 million calories, edible calories. Like, and all it does is eat grass. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: If you invented that, you would win a piece. What the hell? And Jared Huffman is against it in the name of the environment. But he's for fake meat. He's for cellular agriculture. He thinks that's lab grown meat. He's for all of this alternative food. But something that just and a fun thing about that is. When they took out the cattle, the grazing cattle out of the point raise area, they realized because there's an invasive grass out there that the cattle ate. It'll grow six feet tall and no animal can eat it. It's too tough when it gets that tall because antelope are not apex grazers. They follow large grazing animals. So now they got to have contracts with private companies to bring out apex grazer, cattle, sheep, these things on a truck that runs diesel, putting stuff into the air. which is environmentally bad, instead of just leaving these people out there to produce food, because this is ultimately about food independence. And I want food independence. I love agriculture. I have family in Wyoming. My uncle had a ranch. My grandmother had a farm in Casper. My uncle's ranch was in Sheridan, Wyoming. I mean, I'm, and I don't want to work on a ranch. You I don't want to ride a horse. I don't want to do any of those things. ⁓ But I love agriculture because I love food. Good food, healthy food. speaker-0: Yeah. The food that we're used to here in Northern California. Yeah. speaker-1: And I believe my path to victory is through mountain biking and agriculture. agriculture is very conservative. And I need to convince them that I'm on their side. And at the moment, as of today, no Republican is running yet, but they have until March 6. So if they vote for the Republican, the Republican will lose and Jared will win by 70%. This is what happens every time. I'm the first, as I know it, pro-agriculture. real mom and pop agriculture candidate. So if I can convince them that if a Democrat wins because we're a top two in California, that means a Democrat can go against a Democrat. Jared Huffman has never taken a debate. He may have to take a debate against a Democrat like me, especially if Marin mountain bikers, surgeons, all kinds of doctors and lawyers, lots of money who dislike what he did and like good food, but they're not the Ross billionaires that live there. Yeah, I think I have that I think is the best path to victory. speaker-0: Let's follow that, tug on that string a little bit. When you drive from San Francisco down to LA, ⁓ it's very red. And you get to see a bunch of signs that say the government is, you know, creating this drought or whatever. ⁓ is dealing with these dams the same thing that those farmers are arguing about? Yes. Yeah. speaker-1: Exactly the same thing. So Gavin Newsom is a horrible, horrible governor. I can't stand him. I don't like anybody though. I don't like anybody. speaker-0: Okay. Let's put a post-it note on that because I want to follow up on that. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah. OK. speaker-1: So agriculture is. So one way to kind of explain like, because everybody's like, ⁓ well, that's super red, you know, and I can't deal with it. You know, there's two words that define a liberal and there's two words that define a conservative. Half of the world is born conservative and half is liberal. There's this balance out there that people are born with and or you're raised that way, but you're born a very specific way. That's why you have conservative liberals and liberal conservatives. It's how you are raised versus what your natural instinct is. And they've done studies on this. So the two words, because I'm liberal, I always start with me. The two words that define a liberal is ⁓ disruption, not riots, but disruption. Right. Like most tech startup founders are liberal and they become a billionaire and then they're libertarian because they don't want to pay taxes. So. But they're all liberal, right? They disrupt a monopoly. And why does all this happen in San Francisco? Because it has the worst cab system. It's just everything comes out of San Francisco because San Francisco has stupid policies, overly regulated policies. So. And then the other one is novelty. Bigger chance that it's a liberal who wants to go try that new Ethiopian joint down the street. Just novelty. Right. Liberals like to say happy holidays because it's novel that there's all these other holiday things going on at the same time. speaker-0: you speaker-1: I say happy holidays if I don't know you. I say Merry Christmas if I know you. I say happy Hanukkah if I know you. If I know your thing, I say what it is, right? So then for a conservative, it's order and tradition. so order, that's why most police officers are conservative. They see something happening. They want to create order. It's just who they are. And then tradition. Right. Well, this is something else. speaker-0: Right. Not ice though. speaker-1: So this is the radicalization of the working people because we are desperate, desperate. And then when you're desperate, you can blame somebody. And when you blame them, you can radicalize them. All of these people are probably pretty good kids, you know? And then they didn't get that college education that we created a society where you need that college education, right? And then they got left behind or they lived in Rust Belt States, right? We need to fix that. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: And under my plans, we do fix that. And it's non inflationary spending. It's actually free market capitalism. So then with tradition, ranching is tradition. Dairies are tradition, right? It's an old school way of doing it. Conservatives are super attracted to that by nature, you know, and it's also novel. So you have a lot of liberals like, ⁓ I have a farm and a restaurant farm to table. That's really liberal, right? Because it's novel. We all like food. But big ranching, big agriculture is generally conservative people. And so saying it's red means these people believe in tradition. And they believe in a certain amount of order. And any state that has a monopoly on red or blue sucks. California sucks. It's overregulated. I love California, but it's overly regulated. Right. have all of these things. Texas sucks, you know. They don't regulate anything but a woman's body. speaker-0: ⁓ my god. ⁓ speaker-1: Okay. ⁓ speaker-0: That's hilarious. I mean, it's funny how you said it. The situation is dumb, but how you said it is just, you simplified it to the point where to me, you're just like, what are you doing? speaker-1: Yeah, it's crazy. so, yeah, you know, I think California was at its best when we had a very Democrat legislature and Schwarzenegger with our governor. Because not a lot of things got done. And I think actually, Schwarzenegger was a really good governor. He was socially liberal and he changed American health care in one swoop. That dude changed how the United States does health care. And it was insane. And it sparked so much innovation. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: and startups just by one decision that he made. And it was great. You know, he said, why are why are the taxpayers paying when somebody in surgery leaves a sponge in the patient? We have to pay for all the problems with that, right? Whether it caused an infection or whatever it was. Why are we paying for ⁓ hospital infections? You know, through now we have like better folies. We have better catheters that go into your arm. We have better systems in place. And this is spark innovation. And then that went national. And then the government's like, Nope, we're not paying for it. So everything that happens is now on on the responsibility of the hospital. So we count differently now in surgery than we used to. We're not as lackadaisical as we used to be. So I think that was a really good decision. And that's when California was all Democrat except the governor was socially liberal Republican. I think if they want if they found a socially liberal Republican, speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: That would be our next governor again. And I'm both on. I'm an issues voter. I'm a Democrat and I'm really liberal, but I'm an issues voter. speaker-0: Yeah. I hesitate to label myself with anything because every group has, I have a gripe with everything that everyone ever says. Absolutely. speaker-1: From 2017, I went independent. But if you want to win an election, you have to choose a side. speaker-0: Ugh, you have to play the game. speaker-1: You have to. People, and especially now, people are scared. They're not going to give up a seat. Especially with the stuff Trump is saying now. So if you elect me, you still get all the socially liberal things you want and the food. I'm going to fight to keep that damn up. I'm going to fight for, you know, agriculture. But we have to do it together. Red and blue. Purple is the only color that works in this country. The American people need purple. speaker-0: Exactly. Exactly. And get on YouTube and look at all these conversations that we've been having and look at the conversations that are happening not on this channel. Expose yourself to more independent thinkers that think that both sides are nuts. speaker-1: I think both sides are nuts. But I can't be a Republican because I'm so socially liberal. speaker-0: Yeah. Right. I can't be a Republican because they sick ice on me. Like, what are you doing? Well, I would love to I would love to be a Republican. But the the country isn't there. I talked to people how I talked to people how I think the beginnings of a country, you should be a Democrat because you're building yourselves up. And then at a certain point, once you get it figured out, then you can shift into Republican and you can pull yourself up by the bootstraps and all that stuff because everything is already set up. The system is already set up, but we're just not there yet. speaker-1: There I read a lot of books since 2016, which is what kind of really radicalized me. Trump getting elected and I have family who voted for him. And then one day I woke up and I realized I was the actual problem. Not because I was liberal or a Democrat. It was because I want Trump voters to be more open minded so I could convince them how wrong they were. ⁓ Both sides want to teach the other side, right? But when two people go in, have a conversation and they go to teach, nobody learns. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: When two people go into learn, everybody teaches. And that's something I got from a book called Love Your Enemy. He was a he's a conservative economist, economist, amazing book. He basically says, imagine everybody wants the same thing as you. You don't understand the process they're taking. Learn it. Be open minded. And when you talk to somebody and they they know if you're listening and you're open minded to their ideas and they know when you're only thinking about what you're going to say. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: to them after they're done talking. When you open yourself up and you practice this, people talk. I love having talk. I talk to people who are like, you know, somebody down the street who was at our blog party. I'm like, are you okay with what ICE is doing? And they're like, yeah, they're taking, they're getting rid of illegals. The shooting of Pretty, that's a whole different thing. And that is radicalizing people. For the better, in my opinion, it's even radicalizing the right. The NRA is like, I want an investigation, transparent investigation. This is tyrannical. So. Talk to people, so that was that book. The other book, if you want to know why Rust Belt States voted for Trump, read a book called American Made. What happens when work goes away? Follows a company called Rex Nord. It's a ball bearing company. Five people and. Trump, all he did was the same thing Obama did when he first ran. He went to all the Rust Belt states and said, we're going to fix this. We are going to fix this. But Obama never went back to the next election. When Trump was first president, he went like every week, but he kept them going because he paid attention to them. Politicians, people in Ohio are just used to everybody coming to the caucus and then they go away and they don't do anything for them. Trump was different. He talked to people. I don't like Trump. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: I don't like the policies. I don't like him. But if you look at what he did, he talked to people and that's what people want. So we need to talk to each other. speaker-0: talk to people in their language. A billionaire. Well, now he's a billionaire ever since he's he's he's the more the most profitable president we've ever had. But when he was first coming up, he was talking to people in their language. And we have, you know, these grassroots efforts like yours and Kyle's and a bunch of other that that have been on this channel. You guys are talking to people like you're from the neighborhood. speaker-1: Yeah. Which is what a congressman should do. speaker-0: Yeah, and I appreciate that you're not, you know, you're a little bit, a little bit more toned down. You still got a button down. That's fine. But you know, the ties and all the things and you know, like, relax. We're here to have a chat. I don't need you to, you know, give me your bullet points. speaker-1: I wanted to wear my ask me 3299 shirt that we got at the last strike. If you're on my Instagram, you'll see me at the strike. I give up money to fight for labor. Right. When you strike, you can't take vacation time. can't take sick time. None of it. So I take the day off. I don't participate and I go up and I strike for my two to two to four hours. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: And that's what I do. So I'm going to wear that. My wife is like, no, you need to look a little bit more professional. I'm like, OK. And this is about as professional as I get. speaker-0: So talk to me about that 3299er. speaker-1: Ask Me 3299 is the union for the UC system. All UCs have Ask Me 3299 for the technical people. speaker-0: University of California system. speaker-1: Yeah. And so, and then there's the CNA, which is the California nursing association, and they represent all of the nurses. Um, so that's our union. Uh, UC is union hospital. You have to be in the union. You have to participate. You have to pay for the union. If you're on sub stack, I just put up a new sub stack. Well, it's not that new now, but I made the argument that unions should never support a candidate. it makes them weak. I applied for them to support me this time and they said, no, we're going to go with Jared Huffman who voted against unions instead of having a union member who's actually striking. They still go with the establishment because. ⁓ speaker-0: I was shocked. speaker-1: And I didn't want the I didn't write the article because I'm mad at them. I wanted them to say yes to me and then decide if I wanted them to actually support me. I probably would have. They need the phone bankers. But the reason they shouldn't is unions. The people who decide this, the political side of every union in this country, they almost always vote for the Democrat because although Democrats, I believe, are not for the worker, they do vote marginally better than Republicans for workers. So they support those people. So then they support the people who also support taking away guns and who likes guns, working people, people, working people want to be in a union. They want to have their guns. And then the union is actually at this point, a red state can actually argue that the unions are trying to take away your gun rights. And then they don't. So you don't have. So then they pass laws in that state that you don't have to pay into the union, which defunds the union. which then makes no unions, which means capital has control over you with no representation. A union at its very best, if it was strong enough, is our lobbyist in Washington. But it is so weak that it's not even really there. They think they are and they hang out with the Democratic politicians, but they can't lobby meaningfully. They don't have enough power or money. And that is because they always pick the candidate that will take away guns. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: And it's just, so easy to do in these red states. So if you instead, and this is my argument in my sub stack, if unions said, here are the issues we want that we need for working people. Here is a list of politicians that say that's what they're running on. And then if they followed up with those politicians and how they actually voted and had somebody up there and they wrote a newsletter and said, well, he said he was going to do X, but he didn't. And this is where his funding came from to make that. speaker-0: you. speaker-1: That would make unions impossibly strong and that would definitely be able to then fight capital. So that's my opinion about unions. I'm very union. speaker-0: I mean, I am too. And I didn't really understand unions until my brother became an electrician in Chicago. So he's in one of those people lifters and it's negative 20 windchill and he's up and doing these things. And he explained to me some of the areas where he had to climb through or crawl through and just disgusting parts of the buildings that we don't ever see. And business owners are built and educated to do what? To get as much work as cheap as possible. So imagine being an electrician, putting your body through all of that. And they want to give you 17. What's $17.25 an hour? $15 an hour, you know? Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah. Or imagine being in a right to work state where hospitals are not unionized and you're in surgery, you're putting your hands inside of bloody bodies and these people have HIV, hepatitis, all of it and all it takes is poke. a poke through your glove could actually ruin it. And that, like, it needs to be unionized. All of it. speaker-0: the 100%. speaker-1: But I also don't think everything should be unionized. You should have an option. And then we don't have an option until we put competition to the private sector. speaker-0: And that's the part that's frustrating because everyone says, you know, work real hard and ⁓ stand out and all this stuff. But the people with the control and all the money actually have the control to tell you whether or not you're going to do the thing that you're supposed to be inventing or creating or painting or whatever the case may be. Yeah. So their finger is on the scale. speaker-1: It's always on the scale, even in the best of times when we were highly unionized. What people don't understand is that when they in 1937, they passed a national labor act, DNLRA. And then in 1947, they passed the national labor board. And for that passage. We could no longer have a general strike in this country. Because it's a general strike that work. Are you there? Okay, so it's the general strike that works and they fear it. So they made that a thing. That's why we don't have a general strike in this country. ⁓ I say get rid of it. speaker-0: think people are working towards that. speaker-1: They are. But what happens right now with the law that we have, although the NLRB because of Trump is ineffective. He fired too many people in it so they don't have the votes that is ⁓ needed that Congress passed. Right. You have to have this many votes of the NLRB to work to make this happen. So it's ineffective. So get rid of it. So in a general strike right now, you are not protected by the government. So your employer can fire you. But in the the rules were raised, if you're a hospital and you go on strike, your job is protected. But then if you're sanitation joining that strike, sanitation can be fired. speaker-0: Wow. speaker-1: Right. And in France, who strike the best man, they burn Paris every summer than nowadays. If you watch it, if you watch the right media during the summer, McCrone wanted to take away to two federal holidays. They lit Paris on fire. speaker-0: I remember that. Right. Yeah. speaker-1: And then they wanted to regulate cows recently or something about about about for the environmental reasons. They wanted to do some crazy regulation that would cost a lot of money for the farmers. So they brought all of these tractors with manure and they dumped it in front of the Capitol and sanitation refused to clean it up. Nobody would clean it up. The French do it right. You know. speaker-0: I see a lot of comments from people from not the United States. And they think that our peaceful protests and the protests that we do here are cute. speaker-1: Yeah, but, know, if you did that same thing in D.C., you might get shot. And that's just not Trump. That was Biden and Obama. And since since we militarized our police force after 9-11, we have been accepting more authoritarian ⁓ outcomes, less protect and serve, less community policing. speaker-0: Yeah. Exactly. I grew up a brown guy in the streets of Chicago. Police have been militarized for the 53 years I've been skating around this bitch. different levels. Yeah, I grant you that as of 9-11, it really did. Like we see tanks in the streets now. speaker-1: way different levels now. because we needed all new weapons for the military industrial complex to go fight a war to save us from mass destruction, right? Weapons of mass destruction. Yeah. So they gave all the old stuff to the cops and said, here, because we are going to militarize this. And when you give anybody military gray stuff, they're going to want to use it. And then when you keep telling them it's us against them. speaker-0: something that our government started. Give them a badge and then you say, everything goes. speaker-1: Well, that's the ice then. Yeah. It's it's it's it's insane that JD Vance said that. Insane, you know, but one thing about the police is my dad was a cop. And if you're somebody who has never had interaction with the cops except a speeding ticket or things like that, you watch the media, you're like, oh, defund the police wherever you live, go for a ride along. Just go for a ride along. See what they see. They'll show you. And then you'll be like, oh, and then they're all really good people. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: Most of them have families. They're trying to do the right thing. But because of our economic policies, we create a criminal class in a way, right? Exactly. This is created and it's easily solvable. speaker-0: I always say if you want police to feel a little safer, even though they're the ones with the tanks and the guns and all the things, if you want police officers, police officers have to deal with good people and bad people. If a cop is showing up, their chances are they're dealing with unsavory characters that are lying to their face. And I understand. I've sat and talked to police officers. used to bowl. Cops go bowling in Chicago. Cops go bowling. So you're able to get the stories from them. And it's it's a situation that police officers have to deal with people with no forward momentum and no no backing and no support. speaker-1: They also have to deal with people who are in an emotional crisis. So maybe there was never a domestic violence in that house, but something happened, something very bad. Somebody found out somebody was cheating, something where the other person is like in an emotional crisis and it escalates. The cops come to that and this was a good person, right? But the cops come to it. Maybe nothing happens, maybe there's no gun in the house, maybe nobody really got hurt, but somebody was scared enough. speaker-0: Yeah. ⁓ speaker-1: that the cops show up to that. There's all kinds of emotional things that cops also have to show up to. When my dad in his last years on the highway patrol, the Nevada highway patrol, he did a lot of state policy and they were trying to pass that cops should have a college degree. He was very much against it because then you're gonna get a certain class of people who are now the police and they're not gonna understand the other class of people. He thought cops should come from all walks of life. and represent within those walks of life. And then cops see what people are like from those cops walks of life because they're cops too. And then the other thing that he's really big on is he thought they should add a year to police training. And in that year, you should. that's the ice thing. Most it. think most police academies are around a year or they used to be when he wasn't. Yeah. He thought they should add another year where you follow. speaker-0: 47 days? speaker-1: ⁓ Social workers. So you'd go to CPS, child protective service. You go to adult protective service. You would go to a hospital and you follow them around and you would actually learn from those people de-escalation. And the benefit is those social workers, they are also monitoring you. How are you reacting to situations? Do you feel really authoritarian? Are you becoming a cop to have power over people? Or are you becoming a cop because of good benefits? speaker-0: Yeah. Right. speaker-1: You know, that's a great way to be a cop. benefit. speaker-0: Yeah. I that too, but. speaker-1: Yeah. But I think cops, you know, I also think cops and teachers should be in the same union where a teacher failed. There's a cop. Right. So if you're in the same union and cops never go on strike, when you close a school for a strike and teachers deserve to strike because they're in a union and not getting paid well enough, schools close. A lot of parents can't afford to stay home with their kid. So the kid gets left alone. Then you start getting in a couple of touches with other people and maybe a cop gets called. because you're loitering in front of the store and the store owners get scared. That was all because they couldn't go to school. They should be in the same union, same pay structure. speaker-0: That pay structure is important because I don't understand how you as rich people and granted I understand the teachers in the rich neighborhoods get paid very well. I know I've seen it firsthand. ⁓ But how do you expect a teacher to raise help you raise 20 kids at a time 30 kids at a time absolutely and then giving them 50 60 70 000 a year are you crazy and then expecting them to use their own money to get whatever it is the crayons or the or the Kleenex or whatever it is that they other supplies that they need to be successful they it's on them to get speaker-1: So we've already proved the point that the money is there. ICE gets $50,000 sign-on bonus and $100,000 minimum starting wage. So we proved the money is actually there. And the nation would be more profitable if that weren't education. If we extracted the brilliance out of our children, right? But we don't, we turn them into workers. Here's your break, raise your hand if you have to go to the bathroom. Here's your 30 minute lunch. speaker-0: Yeah. Right. speaker-1: sit down, look forward. Right. That's what it is. So, and you know, we have higher rates. speaker-0: Right. We're making machine parts instead of citizens. speaker-1: In the before the hippies who ruined everything, they're the boomers. ⁓ Before them, they used to teach in school civics. And civics taught you what was in the Constitution. Then they went to social studies where it says you have a constitution raw. Yeah. Yeah. So we started because the hippies knew too much. Right. Yeah. And so they did all of that. So we've talked a little bit about. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: ⁓ The path we've been on, I keep saying it's easy, right? So I'm running on a three tier, like on a thing called the three tiers of society. And one of them is a federal jobs guarantee program. And so why this is non-inflationary spending is because everywhere you look, there's work to do. But there's no job to do it because the private sector can't profit off of So the private sector had a monopoly on wages since 1976. Right. That's when it all started falling apart. So if you're working at Wal-Mart and you are a United States citizen and you are 18 years old and you have a high school diploma or the equivalent, a GED, you can get a job with the Federal Job Guarantee Program. to simplify, let's take two different parts of the government. the Bureau of Land Management, the BLM, very unionized, and the Corps of Engineers, what used to be called the Army Corps of Engineers, it's called the Corps of Engineers now. It's very unionized. And Barack Obama set the wage for federal contractors at $15 an hour minimum wage, okay? And it went into law under Biden. And so if you take all of these people working in Amazon Fulfillment Center, If you take all of these people working at Walmart, not getting paid enough on housing subsidy, on SNAP, the Walton family gets $6.2 billion from us taxpayers because their employees are paid so poorly, we subsidize them and they just became a trillion dollar company this week. speaker-0: subsidize is ⁓ corporate speak for snap benefits. ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah, it's it's actually corporate speak for corporate social ization. mean, ⁓ what's a yeah. So yeah, this is a socialism. It's socialism for corporations in the rich and pick yourself up by your bootstraps for us. Right. So let's say the guy working at Wal-Mart in Bakersfield really likes guns and he hates California, but he's stuck right stuck here because he wants lots of bullets and lots of guns. And there's a, there's a fact, Hey, why not? It's the second amendment. It's a constitutional right. That's your thing. That's your thing, bro. Go do it. So there's a factory being built in Ohio, right? It used to be, it used to build, I don't know, Ford cars, whatever. They shut it down. NAFTA killed it. The town is a ghost town. Very little there, very depressed food desert. And he decides to go there. Right. And now there's another guy in Ohio who makes screen doors, right? speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: And he has 50 employees on rotating shifts with weekends and nights off, making 200 screen doors a day. So he doesn't want to hire more people because that's his profit margin. He's got it laid out. And if a repub... So under a Republican plan, they would say we're going to lower the lower corporate tax to help small business. this and they're going to be able to hire more people, pay higher wages or buy new things. So let's say it went from 35 % to 25%. So he doesn't need to buy any new machinery for his screen doors, because he has Bob the Builder in there and he fixes everything. So he's not going to do that. He doesn't need more people because his profit margin is already set. And he can't pay more because when the Democrats come in, they're going to raise taxes to help the people. So he doesn't do anything. He pockets the money. So that is more money going to fewer people. The demand for things will go up, but supply won't go up. and that's inflationary spending. That's the problem with the tax cuts. The Democrats go in, they raise, they fight for 15, they raise taxes. He has to lay some people off because he's not, nobody else is buying screen doors. But when our guy from Bakersfield gets to Ohio, he sees all this depressed housing and he buys a house. At $15 an hour, he can buy a house in this town. It's a crappy house. He can fix it though, but the one thing he can't fix is a rusty screen door. So you get that screen. So now he orders a screen door. And so over over times, this is happening all over the country because there's gonna be so many people who flock to the federal jobs guarantee program. So this actually doesn't need corporations to pay $15 an hour as a minimum wage set by the government. I don't believe in that. I want competition to the private sector. So Walmart, are you going to pay more money to keep your employees or are you going to now let's have a pathway to citizenship and bring people into work at Walmart? Because American citizens are getting really good jobs. And then when the factory is fully refurbished, right? When the factory is totally refurbished, we don't do anything with it as the federal government. We lease it to the private sector. So the federal government takes on the billion dollar expense of refurbishing this from the day the first person walks in till they lease it. I don't care if we ever build a refrigerator in this country again. Germany, Japan and China are building them fine. We need to build the... future and the future one big thing is the battery storage. Let's build let's build that here manufacturing of that another one. We've done almost everything we can do with ones and zeros. The next big revolution is material sciences and we can walk that in like we used to walk in the semiconductors. We did it. We owned it. That is the future companies that want to do that can lease these right? Build it. I don't want to put a lot of regulations on him either. You know, try not to be sexist or racist. Try not to be those things, but I don't want tons of regulations on these companies. Don't pollute our water, don't pollute our air, right? And so then this company that leases it has to hire people. Well, the guy from Bakersfield already bought a house. He had some money. He met a girl because he was going out and he could, you know, go to the bar, throw some darts into a restaurant, took her on a date. He wants to stay. So now he takes a job and now he's no longer working for the federal government. This is not a takeover of the private industry. It's competition for labor, competition for wages, taking on the debt. And now more people will come and work. These towns are getting revitalized and small businesses are popping up everywhere, right? They like to go out to eat, paying decent money. And that is competition to the private sector. And that's why the Federal Jobs Guarantee Act is non-inflationary spending. Another part of it is no free community college because these are to be more high tech jobs. speaker-0: that I'm excited about this one. Right. speaker-1: You know, there is not a nurse in this country that should have student debt. Doctors should have student debt in my opinion and we'll get to that on the next part. But if you're a healthcare worker, because I want Medicare for all, you should not enter into the job in debt. We need you too much. speaker-0: teachers too for that matter. speaker-1: teachers too, but they're a part of like the doctor thing that we'll get to. So, and I'm not really sure what to do about teachers because I don't really know any except my kids teachers. And half of them like my idea about the police union and half hate it. ⁓ So free community college, anything you want to do, go there, get your prereq done, make your university experience much cheaper. It's easier to get into the junior because there's attrition the first two years and speaker-0: Yeah, okay. speaker-1: I need a little drink of water, on. Sorry about that. And then no student loan, if you want to go to university, you should have an interest rate on it. We will lend you the money as the American people. We will, because you can't go bankrupt on it. Just start your payment plan. Borrow $100,000 for education, pay back $100,000 for education. speaker-0: $100,000. speaker-1: But if you're a poor person who becomes, you you came from a poor family and you become a surgeon, you're to be about 300 to $500,000 in debt by the end of your fellowship. If you do fellowship, right? So, okay, take that no interest rate. But now if you want that money free, you don't want to pay for your education. Go to a Medicare for all hospital. We'll get into Medicare for all in a minute, but you go to a hospital. It's Medicare for all. You go there for 10 years and you've paid. We'll pay off your debt. and you'll have competitive wages. This isn't like, oh, I make no money. But if you're a plastic surgeon, you know, you'll pay off your debt because you can make up to about a million dollars a year if you're a Stex. Yeah. Through Botox parties and all that stuff. you know, for the example of building the factory, refurbishing it, I use somebody who had a who had a high school diploma. We need engineers. Yeah. We need architects. We need designers. We need. hard science people. You want that free degree? Come and work for the federal jobs guarantee program. Go to Ohio, fix that factory. Once you hit the year, whether it's one year for 50,000 or however is a fair way to go about that. You now have experience. You had competitive wages and now you have no debt. This is why universities I still think should charge because we created a system where universities will get you ahead. It'll just free university, too much competition. speaker-0: right. speaker-1: It just helps a very few people. I say work off your debt in the, in, in the betterment of our country, in the betterment of society. When you have these things happening, you will have more home ownership just by doing that. I don't think BlackRock, I don't think private equity should be able to buy houses, but that was all under Obama. And he's the one who created that intentionally in my opinion, because they want it. They want us to leave ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: home ownership and you know, it's called techno feudalism. That's what they're trying to get to. So where you have more home ownership, you have less crime, because you have more investment. Where you have less crime, you need less policing. Where you have less policing, you don't need to invest in as much into the police. So this is cost savings. And because of a federal job guarantee program, my big belief, if you get laid off, you should get 55 % of what you made over the last two years for a single year. Right? Get yourself back up on your feet. You were laid off because you had a bad CEO, either for profit or didn't know how to run the company. It wasn't your fault. should, Amazon just laid off 17,000 people. They could lose their houses because they have to get, they have to jump through the hoops of EDD. speaker-0: Or down in ⁓ LA. Everyone went on strike because all the studios are exporting jobs. speaker-1: Yeah, absolutely. But after a year and we shouldn't care what you do, you just like, okay, every two weeks, here's your check. You made this much money, made $100,000. We'll pay you $55,000. Here's your check every two weeks. Okay, that's it. Don't bother. Don't bother people. Let them find themselves. We get one trip in this life, man. That's it. If there's reincarnation, I don't remember being anything else. We get one. Don't mess with them. But then at the end of that single year, we end it. You don't get anything. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: because there's a federal jobs guarantee program. ⁓ speaker-0: To piggyback off of what I'm trying to remember his name, but there was someone who's also running for office that brought up ⁓ with with free education. Let's say that year that you are out of work, you can go right back to school, learn a whole new thing. Follow up with a whole other career, because now that you've had a career in speaker-1: Yes. speaker-0: ⁓ screen door making. At the end of that, there are skills that we can leverage to whether you want to run for office or go back to school or whatever it is, because we're running for office. We're trying to turn people in and out. We're trying to break this corruption. So we want people to in and in, going in and coming out, going in and coming out. speaker-1: So that's why we'd have a free community college. So if you're a graphic designer that got laid off in a marketing thing, but you want to become a nurse, you're like, screw this. We need nurses. They have steady jobs, good benefits. That's a two year degree. That is the only exception I can see where you would get your unemployment benefits for two years. And in that prove what you're doing. You would have to do that. Are you showing up? Are you getting the grades? Then you become a nurse. So we gave you, we paid off that education for you. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: I don't see how this would in any way would be inflationary. And then Medicare for all is a no-brainer. speaker-0: is a no-brainer because again going back to a household's income, as long as you can keep people, keep people, as long as you can keep money in people's pockets, they can keep their homes. If they can keep their homes, you're going to keep crime down. And you're going to get people tapped back into what we're trying to do as a government. speaker-1: And it saves so much money. way we do it is so expensive. With Medicare for all, people keep saying, well, it'll look like Canada. And Canada, I think, has four heart hospitals. San Francisco has three, right? You talk about long lines. They talk about all of that. So we would invent something naturally through the free market that would look really different. Medicare for all is just you have basic health care. speaker-0: So much money. speaker-1: Yeah. And it would be, it would look like either be preventative. It would be hard to get some surgeries. Sure. And the stuff would happen. It wouldn't be great. But then let's say you made good, decent money and you could pay for med you could pay for one medical. So then you go there and you get seen for your sniffles. It's much faster. Yeah. And then there would, but United Health doesn't want to give up their money. Right. So, but they would have to work within the new reality. So then they would offer plans to businesses and corporations. Hey, let's get your employees off of the Medicare for All into this sector. So if you had like ⁓ a smaller tier, Medicare for All pays for 75%, your private insurance would pay for 25. In that example I give, if you can't breathe because of your nose and it's your septum, you would need a rhinoplasty, right? A functional rhinoplasty. You're not gonna look better, but you'll breathe. an aesthetic rhinoplasty, right? You may want that, but what you're gonna have to do to get that is you're gonna have to have extra insurance or pay for it out of your pocket. But that's what the insurance would cover. speaker-0: Right. It's you could even approach it. Conservatives like to toss around the school vouchers, the school voucher program and stuff like that. speaker-1: I hate it. speaker-0: I think it's ⁓ I'm trying to associate that to this healthcare argument that we're having. And maybe there's not a comparison to make, but just the process of, here's the comparison. You're talking about, have these vouchers that are worth however much money. You can go to whatever school you can go to. If you have the same kind of voucher, you can go to whatever doctor. But then you have to cover whatever the top, whatever the rest is. speaker-1: if you want the functionality and the look. The look we don't care about. We just care that you can breathe. And school vouchers are just an extension of Teach for the Test. Low performing schools get less money, high performing schools get more money from the government, and low performing schools are always poorer, so it's a transfer of wealth since George Bush. Teach for the Test. It's harder in school, kids are more miserable, higher rates of ADHD from this. speaker-0: Right. speaker-1: Yeah, because they're stressed out and they don't actually have the brain of an ADHD person. It's the stress in our ADHD society. speaker-0: Yeah, I mean, you could just take a look at Instagram and TikTok and understand why people can't focus. speaker-1: Right. It's these phones. Yeah, it's all of it, you know, and if you one thing I think we should do to Congress is take away their health care insurance. No health care, no retirement. You shouldn't retire from this job. That's not what it was meant to be. You're not supposed to go in, make some laws, go back, live by the laws you made. That's how this was supposed to work. You're not supposed to have a political class. Get rid of it. We can't do any of this. No one person can do this and speaker-0: percent. speaker-1: It needs to be a wave of firing Congress. I think millennials and Gen Z are going to be, I'm Gen X, I'm just angry. Millennials and Gen Zs have been so screwed, I think they'd really do well in Congress. And if enough came in at one time, a path, then it would be much harder to corrupt them. speaker-0: We're trying. Right. speaker-1: But they are the ones. speaker-0: It's hard to shoot a running deer. speaker-1: Yeah, you know, it's and if people just paid more attention to politics and stopped going to no Kings, but still voting the exact same way. Right. ⁓ speaker-0: And I think that's one of the benefits of having something like a social media, having a YouTube, you know? Being able to ⁓ network like an hour and a half ago, we didn't really know each other. Now, I can't wait to go eating with you. speaker-1: Yeah, I mean that's just it's what it is. It's a great, it is a great equalizer in so many ways. speaker-0: It's the great democratizer because never before in history have we been able to research, follow up with, have a conversation about all these things that are moving. Could you imagine if Trump was president in the seventies? speaker-1: It wouldn't have happened unions. And he wouldn't have had that personal brand. Your your guy was talking about. Yeah. Not to the same effect that he has today. speaker-0: Yeah. But the shadowy areas of which these people lived in were huge. It was nothing but shadows and slow. I used to time my credit card payments. You can't do that anymore. You write the check, you're like, all right, I get three days. All right. Put that in the mail. Now I got three days to come up with however much money that was. speaker-1: Mm-hmm. You Right. mean, you we were freer back then. Right. But up until the 80s, members of Congress, they belonged to the Rotary Club. They belong to name any of those old timey clubs you think about that still exist today. So they belong to. speaker-0: But that's speaker-1: Now they're all part of they're all on the boards of NGOs. They have left the community because we no longer force local politicians to force Congress members to pay attention to us. And that's a big difference. And that's what unionization was because a congress member had to really focus on the union workers. Yeah, like if I don't show up to this, ⁓ it's not going to be good for me because those unions are going to rally everybody. Now we have hyper individualism. speaker-0: Right. speaker-1: You know, which isn't good. We're becoming a sicker society. People are becoming weirder. Kids are furries. This is this is. ⁓ And they really think they are. I know people. Yeah, I know. I know people who know people that the kid just eats out of a bowl on the ground like this is it's there's something really weird happening and it's just it's the pressures that exist today. Yeah, you know, we have. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: If you take out the for-profit prison institution, which is a big thing of mine, it makes me sick that you make money. People invest through the stock market where that company's fiduciary responsibility is to be investor and the end user is a human being in a cage. Right? Take that away. It needs to be very expensive on the state. Right? And then when the state can't afford it, this is where the free market comes in. Well, let's take a look at our laws. speaker-0: I hate that. speaker-1: What laws can we get rid of? Who can we let out of prison? Right? Well, if you take all the weed smokers out, because I mean, you know, then then you you'll be able to afford it more and they'll have to reduce the laws. And a law is nothing but an obstruction of our liberty. That means less laws, more liberty, more laws, less liberty. speaker-0: Yeah. Please do. This is a perfect segue. I want to get into ⁓ he who has been named Gavin Newsom. ⁓ Why do people like him and why do people not like him? speaker-1: ⁓ I can talk about my own personal experience. Sure. Which is when he was mayor of San Francisco, I lived in San Francisco. OK, I thought he's a great mayor. We were the first city in the nation to legalize gay marriage, legalize it, recognize it. California soon followed. But he I thought that was great. Like I said, I'm very liberal. Yeah. And even when he became governor, he I liked him. I like I didn't pay attention that much to what he was doing. You know, listened to environmental things and I thought that was good. This is also back when I thought, ⁓ maybe we should have shouldn't have dams. And I kind of bought into that until I started running here and I started learning about agriculture. So on that. during Covid, he, ⁓ you know, went to the French laundry. He. Businesses, we were overly locked down even to what the science was saying. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: San Francisco, USD was the longest school district a school district that was out the longest in the country. And this is because of policies from Gavin Newsom and a very left radicalized state. ⁓ Gavin only wants to run for president now. He is making decisions to take down dams so he can be the greenest ⁓ governor ever and use that to run on. He is taking, he's being hostile. He's always been hostile to agriculture. I just didn't realize it because I didn't pay attention. so agriculture is very hostile to him. speaker-0: How can you be hostile to agriculture and the environment? Aren't they kind of the same thing? speaker-1: ⁓ You would think so. You would think mom and pop generational agriculture, whatever it is, is better for the environment than Tyson or Smithfield, those hog farms that pollute the water in North Carolina, which is a Chinese owned company, by the way. ⁓ And then Swift, which is Chinese owned, they have big hog farms, the whole thing. They are bad for the environment. And a good example of that, if you drive to LA, on I-5, you know you're getting to Harris Ranch real quick. And you look at how those cows are living versus the cows in Point Reyes. And then you see environmental. Yeah. And you're like, how come that's not getting sued? Right. But so then you start to see a political agenda behind it. And, you know, it's it's. speaker-0: There's no going around it either. Yeah. speaker-1: Again, like I said at the start of this ⁓ at best, it's radical environmentalism. At worst, it's a war on our food sovereignty. So corporations own everything. Henry Kissinger said control the food, control the people. And I'm that's what I see it as now. I can't see it any other way because like I said, the Kehoe family led the dairy, their cows that live their entire life in point raised fog, grass, everything a cow likes. speaker-0: ⁓ yeah. speaker-1: They ended up at a dairy in East Texas, a big one, where they can only eat at night because of the heat. This is where environmentalism clashes with animal rights. And you would think it would be similar. You would think animal rights people would be environmentalists and environmentalists would be ⁓ animal rights. But you start to see where it's fake because if... speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Climate change. I believe in climate change. I think it's happening. I just don't like taking advice from people who own 10 houses. Each house takes up more electricity than mine. Flying around the world in their G6. Discussing what we have to change. Right. Not them. Right. We what we get to eat. We can no longer afford steak that we know where it comes from. Right. So you start to see it falter there. And then they say, well, it's all the stuff in the air. OK, why are we not? Why are we not mass producing? ⁓ nuclear power. Nuclear power is the best power source we have ever invented. And people like, well, you know, the spent rods are all the what do do with the with the waste? Well, now in Europe, France, Switzerland, their radioactive waste are putting in water to create thermal energy as another green energy. There's so much that they can do with the but then then the other argument is, well, nuclear meltdowns. What people don't understand, there's only been one nuclear meltdown in the world in the history of us having nuclear power. That was Chernobyl. Three Mile Island, most people don't know that Three Mile Island actually closed in 2011. It's been producing the whole time. It was a partial failure of one thing. But when you read, when you look at the history of nuclear in this country, in 1972, the CEO of ARCO, speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Right. The Atlantic Richfield Company gave Friends of the Earth $200,000 to not agree with nuclear power. And they fear factored it. Right. ⁓ you could build a nuclear bomb. And they were the boomers. And, you know, they were all afraid of nuclear fallout. Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace took the money. The Sierra Club took the money. And over time, they just kept paying these environmental groups that people were trusting were doing the right thing to poop on nuclear. and then Three Mile Island and then the movie Silkwood. And that just kind of cemented in this country a fear, a fear that fed the oil companies that they created. And if we had nuclear power, energy would be cheaper. know, Gavin Newsom a couple of years ago came out and said, in 2035, we'll stop selling combustible engine cars in this state. The next week in the LA Times, he don't plug in your electric car because of blackouts. speaker-0: And these are the things that we're putting out in social media and on the news and people are like, people in California are nuts. speaker-1: It's like, well, because he's a political machine. That's it. He's not there to represent me. And he holds my son's future in his hands. And that's why I can't stand him. you are against agriculture, you may not like Republicans, but if you are against food sovereignty, like then vote for Gavin. If you're against really bad energy policy, vote for Gavin. We need to break up the utilities, all of them, right? They shouldn't be publicly traded. The fiduciary responsibility. speaker-0: Isn't doesn't PG and E give him a nice check for his? Yeah. speaker-1: just split with the Democrats on that. Yeah, he's like, oh, no, we're not going to do that. We're not breaking up PG &E. Neither is our radical environmentalist, Jared Huffman. He gets money from PG &E. In fact, Huffman never took money from a railroad until he voted against the rail workers. Now he gets money from the railroad. The dude is just for sale. If you're for, you know, if you're getting paid by PG &E, you're not an environmentalist. speaker-0: And to clarify for folks, PG &E is power, gas, and electric here in Northern California. speaker-1: It's ⁓ Pacific Gas and Electric. And it's been around forever. mean, it's a very old company. speaker-0: sure. Okay. And so like when you see when, we had all the big fires that burnt down all the cities, it boils down to faulty infrastructure. And that PG &E was leveraging and they just kind of neglected it. speaker-1: where the real criminality of this is, is that it's publicly traded. Their fiduciary responsibility is to the investor, not to the environment, not to the end users or people on CPAPs and all of these things that if it was a municipality. So here's a great example. SMUD, right? Sacramento Municipal Utilities District. They pay 53 % of what PG &E customers pay. Same area, same everything. Municipalities are cheaper because when the when the when the municipality takes on the utility, they're in they are incentivized to make it cheaper. So I live in Nevada. What would actually happen? Nuclear power would become probably more popular ⁓ because that's free energy for over 100 years. From one plant, you know, but every roof in Nevada would have solar panels, every one of them. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Every house would be connected to each other and every house would have batteries. This would lower the cost to the the municipality of their electrical grid. But when it's for profit, I don't have solar. was going to get it. But they make it so hard because they don't want to do it in parts of Arizona. It's illegal to have solar. They just they just basically turn. Yeah, it's publicly traded. Yeah. Arizona power. speaker-0: in Arizona. speaker-1: Maui power. You remember that Maui fire? Yeah. Maui power is publicly traded. And now what's happening because of the data centers. speaker-0: I saw firsthand Maui after the fire. ⁓ my God, it's heartbreaking. It was heartbreaking. It was just like everything else that we saw over here. Nice and all those just. speaker-1: No. in paradise and all that. communities destroy. speaker-0: See, yeah, when you see it and it looks like a horror film or a scary movie or like nuclear Holocaust movie, whatever, whatever. That's what these places look like. Yeah. Yeah. Profit. it yeah. And it boils down to that. And it boils down to where can we save money? speaker-1: And it's just fine. And when you look at the weed fire, when you look at the paradise fire, you start to say, well, when the fire starts because of Bill Clinton's moratorium on logging because of a spotted owl, right. It's just like. So now we have half life trees and the trees are in competition for water. Right. And that's a big problem. But true environmentalism is about logging. Right. So, like I said, the federal drug. Right. So like I said, with the federal jobs guarantee act is the BLM Bureau of Land Management. There is a good use of AI to scan the forest, find out which trees need to be saved and which ones really need to be come down and proper spacing and proper management. And like I said, I don't want the government to do everything. They would then contract with private logging companies. We here's where you log now. And people just would rather be a logger. And the thing about the BLM is if you're a nonviolent weed smoking prisoner, you know, and you've been on the fire team. Why are you in prison? You're on the fire team. Get out and there's your job. $15 an hour. Go up into the mountains. Yeah. Have fun. Nonviolent criminals, you know. speaker-0: When the big fires were happening just north of us, I saw chain gangs out there like, cleaning. speaker-1: get them off the chain gain, get them into the BLM, get extra pay over the $15 an hour every time you're out of fire, hazard pay, like this is what we would get. And we'd get people out of cages for the profits of the few. speaker-0: Yeah. And a lot of times, you know, this is my expertise coming from where I come from. A lot of times those folks that are sitting in jail, it's just they're they're a victim of their circumstances because we didn't have health care. So now they got to go out and rob someone to go get some money because they got some kids to feed or they don't have any. They don't have a vision of the future because it's always been. confrontations with the police and you can't afford to go to school, you can't afford health care, you can't afford proper food. speaker-1: If you ever want to do a separate video with me, ⁓ it's very complicated. it's own thing. So we have a thing called the American Industrial Complex, right? We knew it as Eisenhower saying, beware of the military industrial complex. But we have a grocery store industrial complex. We have a pharmaceutical industrial complex. We have a health care industrial complex. ⁓ And there's another one that we have. can't think of it. speaker-0: Tell me. Political industrial complex. speaker-1: All those complexes feed into why we're fat. Yeah, it's policies and people don't understand that obesity comes from your mother. It really does bad choices. If you're Chris Christie and you're and you're rich. speaker-0: If my mom's food, you'd be happy fat. My mom can cook. ⁓ speaker-1: It's not about what you cook. It's really not that it's it's a really complicated thing and once you see it right because everybody's heard of the gut biome that you know how healthy so I have eat all of that yeah. Complex eating right meats cheese. ⁓ Vegetables fruits hopefully not sprayed much your the female gut biome feeds into the vaginal biome. And when a baby comes out the vagina, he is sterile, right? But the biome is what gives him. So if you eat a lot of processed food and you live in a food desert, you are going to be fat. And it's a policy choice. But I can get really into the weeds on another one if you want, on another video about how all of this really works. And it's something I'm very passionate about. This is why I'm pro agriculture. Like, you know. I'm not pro-Republican. I'm not conservative. I'm pro-food. Healthy food. So, I can't say that enough. speaker-0: I agree. ⁓ When I leave Northern California, not Chicago, Chicago has fantastic food. But if I go somewhere, the we'll call it culture shock, or the food shock. of these other places. know, we up here, we take pride in farm to table and you know, I'd have a small garden and I grow my own lemons and blah, blah, blah. But when you go somewhere else that that that lean more towards. ⁓ strip malls and stuff like that. And you're having to go to like TGI Fridays and some of these other places. And I'm not trying to talk bad about them. It's a good time. But the food hits different. speaker-1: It's us, you know? speaker-0: It doesn't it doesn't necessarily make me feel energetic more than like, okay, now I'm full and I need a nap. speaker-1: Some of those places give me bathroom issues. speaker-0: A lot of those places give me back. speaker-1: I know what I did yesterday. You know? speaker-0: It's no French laundry. speaker-1: Well, true. another thing about like Northern California, specifically where we live, if you remember last year and the year before that, there was the egg crisis and they were saying eggs are like, I would say $19 an hour. Yeah. So it was 19 and here it went up maybe one or $2 for a little bit. speaker-0: If even I went to my neighbors. Yeah. You know, you can drive around there. Like we're in the farmland. I can get fresh beef. I can go to the coast and I can get oysters and hog island is wonderful. speaker-1: And if, and one thing, if we support local agriculture, if you buy from the farm or if you buy from the ranch, beef is cheaper than a candy bar by the pound, right? And it's healthier. if I was in Congress right now, I would be screaming from the rooftop for the prime act, Thomas Massey's prime act. you heard of that? So there's four meat packing companies and ⁓ you have to go to them. speaker-0: No, not yet. speaker-1: FDA says you have to go to these four regulated USDA ⁓ meat packers for slaughter and packing. Thomas Massey is saying you can go to your local butcher. Just go to because there's an increase in price because these these regulate overly regulated for profit to the four big companies, overly regulated meat packing facilities. are far from local agriculture. They're near big ag, but not small ag, right? So they have to pack up their beef, drive it farther, which is gas. speaker-0: They have to pay the politicians. Yes. speaker-1: Yeah. So Tom. So Thomas Massey for me as a liberal Democrat is the Republican I love. I hate to love. Right. Yeah. It's just like he has a show out there on Netflix called. Well, it's a show called Off the Grid. And this is off the grid. see he's the greenest person I've ever met and everything he says, I almost totally agree with, you know, except then there's stuff because libertarians are too purest for me. I think we need a lot of public policy. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: But I would love to talk to you about my ideas. Yo, Massey, if you're watching this Massey, let's talk. speaker-0: I'll send it to him. So we haven't necessarily, I'm trying to come up with a really good reason why people hate Governor Newsom. speaker-1: He's a politician. He's not a politician for the people. He's not. We see it now. He has just become like so many things, he doesn't care anymore what you see. Right? Here's one thing, if he passes that mileage tax, he will never be president. Ever. Have you heard about the mileage tax? speaker-0: Yeah. The mileage tax. I know about the one time billionaire tax, something, That one's dangerous. Because if I'm a billionaire, I know you're going to come for me. That's just how it works. speaker-1: Yes. So the the mileage tax has gone to his desk. That's it's passed everything. Yeah. So because California is so hostile to combustible engine cars and so unwilling to upgrade their system, the electric system to fully integrate electric cars. Yeah. Right. But so many people bought electric cars that the gas tax isn't making them any more money. speaker-0: ⁓ son of a bit. speaker-1: So now they want to have you ⁓ pay you by the mile every year. It's going to cost $4,200 for the average family. UC pays well for what it does, but there's so many people at UCSF. We were the largest employer in San Francisco. ⁓ There's people who live in Sacramento and commute daily. There's people who live in Fairfax. speaker-0: So you know, just so you know, like Sacramento from San Francisco is about two hours. speaker-1: Yeah. And Stockton and Victorville, I mean not Victorville, ⁓ Vacaville. They live there and they commute every single day. And so this mileage track doesn't affect rich people. It affects workers. And if he passes this to be the greenest governor, they will pound him on this. People don't already like them. know, super liberal, radically environmentalist people like them. But most average working people just can't stomach him anymore because he's obviously not for us. speaker-0: Because he's doing all the headline work. He's not doing the article work. You know what I mean? He's doing all of these things that move his political needle. He's not necessarily focusing on how it's going to affect working class folks. speaker-1: Absolutely. He doesn't care. So if you understand the state of California, the four families that have run it forever, Newsom, Getty, Pelosi and Brown, those four families. It's historical. Yeah. mean, and they just they, you know, why? One of the main reasons California doesn't have nuclear power is because Jerry Brown took a gigantic stake in Valero because they had clean oil. The Venezuelan. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah, he took a huge stake in it. that because it did have their oil wasn't as heavy as Saudis. Yeah. And so he said, that's our green direction. He had a major stake. Like, so let's not have nuclear. speaker-0: And Newsome Newsome is rich. He's got his own winery. He's he can go to French Laundry for those folks that are just of normal income level. And he is expensive and you're going to spend if you go there, you're going to spend about a month salary for one. speaker-1: Newsome. ⁓ his daughter. Yeah. party of four is somewhere between two and four thousand dollars. Yeah. That's with wine, obviously. Yeah. speaker-0: They better have one. speaker-1: Yeah, I've never even everybody tells me the French lonely the French laundry only tastes good when somebody else is buying speaker-0: I never read it. Exactly, exactly. I will say I have had some of that expensive ass Thomas Keller fried chicken. It was delicious. I will give you that. speaker-1: ⁓ yeah, but that wasn't too much. That was that ad hoc. I mean, ad hoc. Ad hoc is really good. speaker-0: Yeah. The one time that I went there, Thomas Culler actually sat at the table next to me and I went to go introduce myself and I was told not to, that they would call security. speaker-1: And the thing is, he's a really good chef, you know? speaker-0: Yeah, and he seems like a nice guy. You know, I was I was joking around and and you know the people at my table said that they would call security but ⁓ yeah, he seemed like a nice guy. His fried chicken is really good. speaker-1: He's a great chef. He's innovative. My wife is a food photographer and so speaker-0: Yeah, and if you watch The Bear on whatever that is, Amazon or whatever that is, no, it's not Amazon. Anyway, The Bear, the main character, he actually works at French Laundry. So if you're into food movies or shows, the character went and worked at French Laundry and then he went and opened up his own spot in Chicago. speaker-1: A lot of people worked at the French Laundry and went on to do amazing things. It's a great place to learn. Chicago though, they have great restaurants where people come from too. speaker-0: 100%. 100%. I put Chicago anything up against anyone's anything. Food, we got it. Sports, we got it. Waterfront, we got it. The buildings, we got it. The history, we got it. The trouble, we got it. speaker-1: Yeah. One of the things I like to say about Chicago, I love Chicago. The problem with it is when you leave Chicago, you're in Illinois. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no. Corn, soybeans. Yeah, not much. speaker-1: I mean, it's just like nothing else out there. It's just a flat farmland, which we need. I love it. It's just not a place I want to live. I leave San Francisco, I'm in nature like stuff. When you leave New York, upstate is very pretty. Yeah. Just something about Chicago. It's so weird how there's just like the spot of total amazement. speaker-0: So. And it pisses off the rest of the state because Chicago runs. Chicago votes blue and it carries the entire state and the entire state is pissed off. speaker-1: Little like California. ⁓ speaker-0: Not like California, but here in California we have what? Two, three solid really big, really big areas that carry the entire state. speaker-1: Yeah, three. have three population densities. Yeah. Which is San Francisco, Los Angeles and Sacramento. Yeah. That's the liberals. San Diego is conservative. It's a military. It's a military town. Yeah, beautiful. speaker-0: Yeah. 100%. Yeah. And people think, people think, oh, you know, the old saying, California is full of fruits and nuts. It's full of gun owners. We have way more gun owners, hunters, and all that stuff than you would, than you would even imagine. speaker-1: full of gun owners. I read somewhere that if you calculate the amount of illegal guns just into the gun owner thing, California has more than any other state in the country. But there's, I mean, there's, yeah, there's hunters, there's all kinds of stuff, but there's just also people who like to shoot. People who like to protect their amendments. I was so against guns, so against guns until I started researching everything. And now I'm like, don't ever give up any amendment. They had they attacked. was the attack. speaker-0: Yeah, don't not me. When I was 17, the army taught me how to shoot a gun. And since then, I get it. speaker-1: Oh yeah, what did you do in the army? speaker-0: I was field artillery. We shot nuclear warheads. speaker-1: ⁓ that's not really field artillery. speaker-0: ⁓ no, it is. We got a track. We'd go out there and we'd, know, our, my, my missiles would do either grenades or nuke depending. speaker-1: Are you were you like at Fort Leonard would know. speaker-0: I did basic in Fort Sill, Oklahoma. And then I went to Germany in the middle of nowhere. Our platoon or our unit was so small, we were on a German base. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it was fun. ⁓ I get it. I understand it. I also understand ⁓ live by the sword die by the sword. speaker-1: ⁓ wow. speaker-0: You know, I understand both sides of the pretty argument. Why did he have one? Why did he need it? Why did they pull it out of it? All that stuff. It's easy for me to take a look at that situation from all of the angles. And I know, I know, I know what happened. I know what was going through that one ICE agent's head when he pulled out the gun and the other one. I know what he was going through when he... There was no reason to shoot that many bullets into that man. speaker-1: Yeah, I mean, a good defense attorney could say, OK, the one shot. Same thing with the car. A good defense attorney could say he didn't see the turn tire, but then he turned around and shot at the third time in the back of the head and called her a bitch. And then when he unloaded that clip into pretty. Alex, pretty the guy next to him starts applauding like, OK, so this is homicide. And there is there's no way around it. It's a tyrannical government. Yeah, I. I am not, I'm on the fence about qualified immunity for the police, but I am not on the fence at all about unlimited. Right. speaker-0: Right. And for me, it's not even for me. If you complain about it and you just continue to complain about it. You're part of the problem. OK, we know that there's an issue. What's the next step? And I like your three pronged approach. Number one is education. Yeah, if you want to deal with better people, you got to make better people. speaker-1: Mm-hmm. speaker-0: Period. There's no if, ands, or buts about it. Education fixes the majority of the problems you will run into when you're dealing with people. speaker-1: No, I don't think so. A lot of people have a French lit degree working at Starbucks, getting the wrong name on the cup for their fun and amusement. It's the access to jobs. speaker-0: Right, but you can't necessarily just throw someone in and say, do this job. speaker-1: And one of the reasons I talk about college and not K-12, because K-12 is state rights, right? We can't have the government saying, this is the national curriculum. Because when you allow that to happen the first time, because your team is doing it and you agree with it, then they'll change it for the next team. K-12. And with the Federal Jobs Guarantee Program, if you do not like... what is happening in your state. If you do not believe in Alabama, like Alabama, life begins in a test tube, or they're not spending any money on education, you can vote with your feet and leave, go somewhere and get that K-12 you're looking for. But I do think every state has a constitutional right to run their own elections and to run their own ⁓ school. speaker-0: I agree, because there's things that happen in California that has nothing to do with Wyoming and vice versa. mean, federally make sure that people are learning reading, writing, arithmetic, we can get into some algebra, we could the fundamentals. But then like everything else, like, why would you why would you California social studies? ⁓ speaker-1: teach. speaker-0: in Wyoming is different. The game is different. The states are different. The rules are different. speaker-1: but why would you not teach home economics anymore and learn how to balance a checkbook? Why would you not teach? Why are you no longer teaching shop to see which to give kids who are going to do better being mechanics, working with their hands? Why do we not allow that in schools anymore? I am actually for testing in middle school. My son's in middle school and testing and saying, ⁓ you could go to community colleges and create vocational programs. and then have that be the high school at the community college to get the basic education that you need. Certain degree of math, everything else that you would need. But you're also learning how to fix an engine. You're learning how to do something that you were kind of born to do. Right. Like that's what you do. Your hands. Right. Yeah. You know, and then then people get out and then you have a better shot at it. We used to do this stuff. Well, we didn't do the vocational testing because that's racist. You know, or whatever. know, and that's what people ultimately will say. And that's an argument to your own demise. Yeah. Yeah, I just like when we lived in San Francisco, everybody says San Francisco is diverse, very diverse. Mm hmm. Every one of Parker's friends who was nonwhite, you know, mixed, whatever. Mm All their parents had one thing in common. High income, educated people. speaker-0: frustrating. speaker-1: but diversity by skin and maybe by culture a little bit. I live in Nevada. ⁓ Almost everybody on our street is Caucasian. ⁓ But the diversity. speaker-0: I'm gonna push a little bit too because people need to hear this back in 2018 I believe it was there was a black family that was trying to sell their house And I don't think this was, maybe it was Nevada, maybe not, but I know it was in that area. A black family was trying to sell their house and the real estate agent sold it for half a million dollars or was trying to sell it for half or valued it half a million dollars less or almost a million dollars less than it was. ⁓ than it was worth. But then they did the whole thing. You know, they they borrowed pictures from their Caucasian friends and they decorated the house with white people pictures. And all of a sudden, like it's sold for the proper price and all this other stuff. Right. Yeah. So that stuff still exists. speaker-1: Absolutely. But that's up to us as a society who is given all the opportunities that we need without it being handouts. We need a good society. So we need to prepare people with a good society. Right. And the only way to get through that is education. The only way to get through that is an appropriate amount of travel. The ability to go do something, see something. speaker-0: a little bit of money to go have a little fun. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah, I mean, so I, I really get hesitant about over regulating, right? Yeah, like you can't regulate nice. Yeah, I'm like, I am a free speech extremist. I don't believe in hate speech. I believe that's just another way to add to the longer sentences of people. I don't say words because there are words I will never say because I know people who represent those words. And they're great people, you know, ⁓ I work with. I would I think I will say African-American surgeons, but some are just not from here, right? They're not American. They're living here now. So I work with black surgeons who are some of the smartest people I've ever met in my life. There is no way I don't understand how people view somebody else as inferior because of the amount or lack of melanin. Like that's all it is. know? speaker-0: Yep, I have endless stories. have endless stories. and yeah, and it's frustrating. And it's again, it's hard. It's hard for me to ask my community to tap into the society who has through history neglected them. taking things away, abused them, called the police on them, talk shit, lied about. So I like that you're trying to convince people, not that people need a lot of convincing, but trying to remind them, go out there and meet people, go out there and be cool. It's only gonna make you a better part of this society that we're trying to build. speaker-1: Yeah, absolutely. And just to end that one point I was making when we moved to Nevada, it's ideological. It's almost all white in our neighborhood. It's ideologically scattered. that is good. And I want my son to see that. Yeah. You know, because he's having problems with ice, you know, all the images he's seeing and understand it. And we have people who live around here who ⁓ think they're doing the right thing. And he gets to grow up around these people. He has kids in his school where they stink. ICE is doing good. Trump is a good president. He is bringing back the American tradition. I mean, yeah, you know, it's just... I prefer ideological diversity in all of my friends than I do. ⁓ I don't care about if we look different. It just doesn't matter. I want to know how you think. So then we can challenge ourselves in conversation and then we can weed out the bullshit that's in all of our heads. Because when you talk to the other side, when you talk to people openly, whether they agree with you or they don't agree with you and you have fun, you end up kind of having fun talking to people and go out and do something. speaker-0: Yeah, that's how I see it. And I know for a fact ⁓ that I look at your face and I know for a fact that your experience has been completely different than mine. And I want to hear about it. speaker-1: I'm also the son of a cop and a nurse. I mean, that's a different experience to law and order in the household, health care, like, you know, and if you're the son of the creatives, right, that's a whole different. Yeah. You probably smoked weed when you were 12, you know, because when I was when I was a kid, when I was a kid, a freshman in high school, yeah, actually, I was in middle school, right? speaker-0: Yeah! ⁓ speaker-1: The seventh grade I want to smoke weed Yeah, and time my friends are smoking weed and they're and back in that day with the Nevada Highway Patrol You drove your car home and every like that's a cop dude. You're a narc Because I bet everybody knew my dad was a cop ⁓ speaker-0: Sucks to suck. speaker-1: Yeah, I'm sure you're like, I could smoke weed all the time. Because yeah. You're a cop. You're the kid of a cop now. speaker-0: Keep watching. My dad was not a cop. speaker-1: I'm not going to say anything. He's going to smell it on you and say, we're speaker-0: probably smoking his. speaker-1: Not you is pretty straight-laced. speaker-0: I was talking about me smoking my dad. speaker-1: Yeah. You know, like, I don't know why more drugs aren't legal. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah, at least leveraging them. Let's study them to see, because here we are, we're finding out that psychedelics are helping Vietnam, Vietnam veterans, veterans in general with PTSD. Psychedelics. ⁓ look at that. How cool. speaker-1: I mean, I would think an easy way to look at the legalization of drugs and a way to also sell it to the religious community is if God made it and you don't have to adjust it, why can't we have it? If God made the earth and the earth is for us, so why can't we have mushrooms? Why can't we have weed or DMT as a harder one? Peyote, you know, I would even. And the other thing I really hate is morality taxing. you know, weed out here is taxed at 23%. speaker-0: Unless you grow your own. speaker-1: Soda, soda, yeah. Soda's bad for you, so we're gonna tax it. Who does that affect? Poor people, you know? Here, can't afford anything because you have a job that doesn't pay you enough, but you're gonna regulate what you can eat. The poor are overly regulated, right? You wanna buy a gun in California, you gotta pay taxes. Plus, you gotta pay a fee to a lobbying group that is lobbying against you having a gun. You literally have to pay a fee against yourself. You have to pay extra taxes on bullets. Morality taxes never work and they attack everybody. Cigarettes. So the thing about cigarettes that I still don't like a morality tax on cigarettes. Yeah. Because people who smoke have a hard life. This is something that again affects poor people at such a bigger rate that you're just creating more and more poverty. speaker-0: except maybe. speaker-1: And the more poverty you create, because I used to smoke back in the day. you know, I'm fine. It does have a secondhand smoke. I don't think you should be able to smoke in buildings because what you're doing to other people, what you do to yourself, smoke outside, because if you're 10 feet from the person, you smell it, but you're not getting a concentration that is going to affect you. Right. Same thing with weed. You shouldn't be able to smoke weed and drive. Right? But you shouldn't patch weed because of a morality. speaker-0: I don't understand why people want to. Like weed makes everything more chill and makes me want to like relax and be creative. Driving gets in the way of literally everything I want to be as I when I grow up. speaker-1: You speaker-0: We have to leverage it. Because let me tell you, I have, I'd like to assume, ⁓ my track record, I've always tried to be a good kid, but I've had to maneuver terrible situations. Weed makes me way more loving and cuddly. And I just want to make sure that everyone is doing good. And I want to make sure that everyone is good. And you you're having a good time and do you need a hug? That's me. speaker-1: God made it. Nature made it. Yeah. However you look at it, to think that weed. I know I mushrooms are illegal because it makes you very introspective and governments don't want that. They want you aggressive. That's why you can buy a pack of cigarettes and bottle of tequila. You're more likely to hurt somebody on that. Yeah. Than on weed. you went to a weed bar and you hit on a girl and she said, ⁓ my boyfriend. And he came out, go like, yo, what's up? Yeah, she's pretty hot. know. Thanks. But if he's coming out drunk on tequila, smoking cigarettes, you're going to get. Yeah, you know, like in surgery when when we get orbital fractures. Yeah. And they're within a certain range of that. Hang on. speaker-0: gonna get sucked in the face, yeah. Hang on, MAGA, orbital fracture is like a fracture around your eye bone. speaker-1: Yeah. So, well, actually, I know some doctors who are pretty mega. So. So well, just to say something about that, when people say things like MAGA, ⁓ you're you're actually saying that they're just very uneducated people. And that's in my world. And what I'm trying to get around is that's very divisive and it gets more anger about, you think liberals are smarter, that kind of a thing. I try. I personally say that. So. ⁓ It's my thing. So people who, ⁓ you know, people who get in bar fights, this is your orbit and it's really thin bone. But, know, within a certain age range, you're just like, what did this dude do in a bar? Because not all the time. I thought that about a kid who was 20, right? Yeah. I'm like, what did you say? And I said it to him because we were just like, you know, in the OR waiting and he was like, ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: I play baseball for Burke and I took a 90 mile an hour pitch to my face. And I was like, holy crap. go, what do you remember? He's like, I remember the pitcher pulling his arm back. And that's it. Yeah. And then he was in the ambulance. So I was like, holy nuts. You know, alcohol fuels fighting. It fuels aggression. It has no. ⁓ They call. Right. And we also celebrate the most addictive drug drug in the world, caffeine. speaker-0: All right. liquid courage. speaker-1: because it makes you a worker, it makes you go to work. We don't allow for introspection in this country. It is antithetical to the type of capitalism we have created here. But we should fight for the things that at least exist on earth naturally. That you don't have to do anything to it, but dry it out. We'd have a better country. So yes, I'm pro-legalization. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. And then then tax it. So then we start addressing some of these ⁓ financial things. Speaking of which, ⁓ what's your stance on Citizens United? Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: Worst thing in the world. Oh, absolutely. That's terrible. I mean, there's there's no way around it. This Supreme Court, since Roberts took it over, he was I mean, he was just a business lawyer that was obscure. And Bush plucked him out and every decision that has been made in there. The Supreme Court is the only branch of government and the president that should be term limited. I think we should terminate limit them to 18 years or 81. So every 18 years we get a new Supreme Court. I think it should be retroactive. So we get rid of our Supreme Court. Yeah. We keep, you know, Brown and we keep Amy Comey Barrett. Right. So they'd stay on and they're ideologically. speaker-0: And those are the two, those are the two youngest ⁓ when it comes to serving in the Supreme Court. These are the two with the least amount of years. speaker-1: Yes. And they're the youngest of age. So the right, Donald Trump put her in because she's young and she's radicalized. Biden put in Brown because she's young and she's radicalized. We don't need that in the Supreme Court. So if you and then we could get rid of Terrence of Clarence Thomas. Right. ⁓ he is so corrupt. They're about to hear or decide a case about Monsanto. Right. Bear is suing because they they got sued and they lost. in the courts because of lymphoma. Monsanto knew the whole time in studies that it creates lymphoma. Bayer has the antidote, the medication, lifetime medication to maybe save you from lymphoma. How did that merger happen? Corruption. So Clarence Thomas was counsel for Monsanto before he was a chief justice. And he is refusing to recuse him. So 18. speaker-0: to themselves. speaker-1: If you're in there for 18 years, you're out. Every generation gets a new Supreme Court. The Constitution is meant to grow. It's meant to change. It's meant to be a living document because technologies change, people change, priorities change with those technologies. And so it's not meant to be rigid. speaker-0: Yeah. Think of this, when they first wrote that shit, we didn't even have proper dentures. We didn't have electricity. Things change. speaker-1: Absolutely. Moralities change. speaker-0: Morality has changed. speaker-1: Right, your morality will change as life gets easier for you. speaker-0: And not just that, but the more you travel, the more you meet people, the more, you know, you're not going to be afraid of Cuban people. You're not going to be afraid of black people. You're not going to be afraid of white people. You're not going to be afraid of rich people. The more you're exposed to that. speaker-1: Absolutely. But if you only travel to white countries and you're white, like you only go to France and Germany and that kind of stuff. Yeah. Then. But, know, if you go to Puerto Rico, it's an American colony. speaker-0: And all of a sudden you're mad that bad bunny's gonna be performing this weekend. speaker-1: I mean, for me, I was disappointed Bad Bunny was going to be performing because I don't really like Bad Bunny. It's just not my cup of tea for music. I didn't like Rihanna either, but I love the 90s hip hop thing. That was awesome. Yeah, and I also like it when Tom Petty plays. I like Tom Petty. speaker-0: That one was good, yeah. Yeah, I saw Tom Petty. He's he passed away a couple years ago, right? I watched I watched him like two weeks, maybe three weeks before he passed away. Just did get it just did get to see him. Yeah. speaker-1: Yes, hard to tell. ⁓ now she's. Yeah, so I yeah. And now TP USA has this alternate halftime show. It's just you're just. It's meant to be divisive. That's all it is. And it's even if you really don't want Bad Bunny for the reasons that it's going to be a Spanish singer and things like that. ⁓ How many people are really going to click over? It's the Super Bowl. You know, and then a lot of liberals want to, I was hearing that a lot of the liberals want to boycott the Super Bowl, but watch the halftime show because speaker-0: Because see, that's where you start losing people. speaker-1: Yeah. You know what? If you like football, you're going to watch it. Yeah. You know, if you and your friends like football, you're going to watch it. Yeah. I really don't care much about team sports. Yeah. Because I don't like the I love playing sports. I love everybody playing sports. I don't like the idea of a billionaire walking in, building a stadium that's financed by bonds and the taxpayers because it's going to create jobs for them to pay minimum wage. for $30 beers to watch millionaires get paid a king's ransom to play a child's game. Like I don't agree with that. The billionaire can build the stadium. I don't care. And then they get a... speaker-0: If you're that smart and successful, you can figure it out. speaker-1: Well, they did. They're that smart that we pay for it. Why? Because Congress is full of lawyers. Full of lawyers. speaker-0: Yeah, and that's again, that's why I'm excited that folks like you normal people are running for office because we need it. We need a chock full of filmmakers. We need teachers. We need speaker-1: Plumbers. mean, like Kevin Ryan was a lieutenant in the Marines turned inner city Chicago school teacher. Kyle Wilson went to an Ivy League law school at Columbia and he's a labor attorney in Santa Rosa ⁓ helping, you know, low-wage workers. speaker-0: ⁓ literally helping people like me get money from the corporations that they refuse to pay us. But because we have lawyers that won't take a look at a case that's worth a certain amount, they will only look at cases that are worth a certain amount. So if you're at like my thing was right around $20,000, there's a corporation that owes me $20,000. But now I have to track him down. After winning all my court cases, now I have to track his dumb ass down. speaker-1: Yeah. I had a worker's comp case. I work in surgery and there was a boom that was too low and I hit my head because they moved it. So it was on my side and I went like that. Got knocked out. This is during a surgery. I get knocked out. I'm on the ground. I wake up in recovery, full of sweat. They pick me up to the big hospital, Moffat Long at UCSF and I get an MRI. have a ruptured disc in my neck. Clear, clear cut. It was an OSHA violation with how low the boom was. Clear cut, clear cut. It took me years to get a settlement, years. I mean, it's insane. And a lot of this would be covered by Medicare for All. We wouldn't have need for workers comp, except to compensate you for lost wages if you're injured at your job, but not the medical part. That would be taken care of. So a lot of lawyers would lose their income. That's why it's still this way. speaker-0: Do you have any preconceived ideas as to what your daily life would be once you do make it into office? speaker-1: ⁓ Kind of yeah, you know I have Yeah, I I've read about it. Yeah, you know ⁓ But in the book love your enemy one thing he really talks about is every Member of Congress that he knows on both sides of the aisle went there for the best reasons Yeah, they wanted to help they wanted to change not everybody. There's a lot of manipulated people out there ⁓ Right. But the way the system works in there is like, hey, we love why you ran this bill. You want to pass down the road. We agree with that and we want to help you. But we need we want to help you get reelected because you're a good person. But you need to help us on this. And then they give away that vote. And then over time and, know, I've never had a two hundred and fifty dollars stake drinking a five hundred dollar bottle of wine. I just never had that. I'm a working class person. I'm a. I'm an amazing cook and we have great ranches out here. So I probably have had the same effect, you know, but I heard that the way the money goes through there is intoxicating. ⁓ But the thing is I have a 12 year old son. I work in a working class community. I'm 56. I don't want to be there very long. I want to be a part of a message. I want to be a part of a a wave that is coming. So people would go, ⁓ Kevin got in and he's a surgical tech. I can get in and if you and I think every person who is in this country should run for office, school board, anything, right? You should run for something, everything. And if you don't run for it, back somebody up, participate in politics. speaker-0: Yeah. No, and don't be afraid to talk politics. It's not a bad idea to talk about ideas. Just don't get wrapped up in this is my guy. speaker-1: Right. Well, then it's a cult. And and and you know, words are important. Like we talked about INS versus ICE, right? Service versus ⁓ enforcement. other part of just utilizing words is they are not our leaders. They are representatives. They represent us. They don't lead us. The president is the leader. Right. Right. And. The generals are the leaders. are representatives. Stop making them to be your heroes. They are flawed individuals. Right. And if your politician, if your politician says, I'm going to go there and fight for you and I'm not going to back down, that's not compromise. So you're not compromising with your fellow citizens. And that is a part of the radicalization. Right. So now that's my leader, because He's taking out all the ranches and the dams that are bad for the salmon. Right. That's our leader. No, he's representing everybody in the district. When I wanted to run, I started listening to country music because it's country out there. Now I like country music. I didn't listen to it before, but now I do. Like that's just kind of an example. Yeah, I like it now. You know, I like anything from Shibuzy, which they'll argue is not but to Hit Tyler somebody, man. He sings about Appalachia. I like a lot of that country too. ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's his name? Tyler? speaker-1: He just won a Grammy, I think. Yeah. But he when you listen to that kind of country music, it's indistinguishable from 80s and 90s rap. The only difference. Listen to the words, the message. Right. It's indistinguishable. They're both fighting the cops. They're fighting. It's like law enforcement because they have bad jobs and they commit crimes, you know, and you're just like, wait a minute. The only difference is urban versus rural. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: But the... speaker-0: And we have to deal with the same stuff. speaker-1: It's the exact same. And that kind of compromise, that's compromise, right? You're like, wait minute, we're all going through this. And it's the system, it's breaking us. speaker-0: Yeah, it's and it's yeah, it's trying to convince us that we're different and we're just not We're just not we're in it together We're in it together Well, ⁓ kevin eisley Let's ⁓ let's go ahead and bring this ⁓ in for a landing give folks your last speaker-1: All of us. Yeah. That's me. speaker-0: pitch for now. You're live for this conversation. Give folks your last pitch and then let them know where they can find you online. speaker-1: Okay, so I'm Kevin Isley. I'm a working class union member at UCSF. I understand what it is to be working class and I am fighting for my son and his friend's future. And if you want change, if you go to the No Kings March. and you want change, you cannot vote the same. You cannot keep voting in the same people. And if you are in this district and your life has gotten worse since 2012, you cannot vote for Jared Huffman anymore. We need a brand new Congress. We need to fire them. And you can find me at kevineisley.com and Kevin for US Congress on Instagram. That's where I'm the most active. speaker-0: Excellent. And we're gonna, I'm gonna make sure that all of his links are in the description of this video. So you don't have to try real hard. It's gonna be right here. If you see our face, you're gonna see the links right under there. Kevin, thanks again so much for hanging out and coming to spread your message. ⁓ I'm here for it. I'm here for it. I can't wait. speaker-1: love what you're doing, grassroots candidates on your show. think that's really important. speaker-0: Thank you. Yeah, I agree. ⁓ I look at all of the multi-million dollar studios and advertising houses that help the people with all the money. And so I made it through all of those advertising houses. to get here to where I'm independent. And so I, it's just a little bit, it's just a little give back to folks, grassroots folks that are trying to make change. And it's not gonna, we're not gonna make change if we continue to do the same thing over and over and over again. speaker-1: Yeah. And the more people that run, more working class people that run will make it a better place. I'm not against Ivy League lawyers. just can't have every... ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah, we can sprinkle them in there. We need their input too. But the thing is they need to realize that they need our input We're the normal people we get it. You went to a cool school. All right, cool fun. Yay But you still have to we're still the boss we're it's us speaker-1: Yeah. But for that to happen, lobbyists give them millions of reasons to listen to them. We give them nothing to listen to because we're divided. speaker-0: Right. All right. But we're going to fix it. We're going to fix it. speaker-1: Hopefully. speaker-0: And with that everybody, we're out.