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Must-Follow Storylines in 2025 · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's. Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes, it
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all starts. Right now, welcome back to the
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three O take presented by Sea Kick.
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This episode 517. I'll be your host, Kyle Korne.
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I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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Nate. One day closer, pal.
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One day closer. You know, I don't mean to be
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that guy, but I outside of of getting to be outside and chew
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some seeds and picking up a new baseball ISM shirt, there wasn't
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much about the spring training game that hit me where I needed
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to be hit. You know what I mean?
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It was nice.
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It was nice seeing the grass. It was nice being there.
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We have our. Own.
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We have our own shop and Nate, just from the clouds right off
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the top just shamelessly drops, gives a free promo.
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Yeah, you know what? I'm going to pick up a new
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baseballism shirt. I mean, that's.
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Worth 2 Yeah. Baseballism as a podcast?
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Yeah. I mean, that's when's the last
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time you dropped, When's the last time you plugged the shop?
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When's the last time you plugged the shot?
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Literally. Last episode.
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I don't remember that. 1000% I don't remember that that you can
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get on the shop. When's the last time you plugged
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baseball ISM? 30 seconds ago. 30 seconds ago.
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Tell us about your spring training.
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It was a good. Experience.
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It's good, It's good, it's good, it's good.
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Getting out, good. Be good.
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Getting in the sunshine, good. Spitting some seeds, chilling,
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catching some baseball, watching people that are like oddly way
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too end to spring training and like, cheering to the level of
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like, let's just ease off the gas pedal a little bit here.
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We got 162 of these things lined up.
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Let's let's save some in the chamber.
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Yeah, it was good, man. Got to see Jack Caglione for the
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Royals, who is massive, a massive human being.
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You see one of those he's like when he when he cracks through
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and is on the field regularly for them.
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Like he, that dude is a presence.
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That's a big boy. Yeah, he's got a little bit to
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figure out in the swing. It's a long swing and he didn't
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look great the other day, but I'm sure he's going to be fine.
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Corbin Carroll went yeah, yeah. Corbin Carroll's got a little, a
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new little stance going on, looks like.
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Yeah, it's it's called sitting on the bench.
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Do you see he was pulled with with back tightness today?
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Oh, did he? Oh, no, probably because,
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believe it or not, I think it was like the after that home
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run, I think he hit it in like the 6th inning, 5th or 6th
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inning, hit a home run, like a shot to right center.
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And they come out the next half and like innings about to start,
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you know, warm up balls are getting tossed back in like,
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time, time. We don't have a right fielder.
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Like no one's in right field. Diamondbacks didn't send anybody
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out. So Corbin Carroll's like, all
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right, Throws a hat on, gets his bright red glove and then and
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jogs out there. Then shame on them.
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You know what I mean? His day should have been done.
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He goes, yeah, yeah, like, you know, that's going to make him
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go back out in the right field in the 6th.
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So maybe that's why. Yeah, that's a team player.
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Yeah, but it's good, man. It's good.
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Good show. Good.
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Good time getting out. Crazy expensive.
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Probably the best nachos I've ever had at a ball game.
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Believe it or not, that's not true.
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We had those in Denver. Better.
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That's impossible. Nope.
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Better like real, like Mexican queso.
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Not like Nacho cheese being dumped on it like queso.
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At a spring training game. Oh yeah dude, the best nachos
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you've ever had in your life at a spring training.
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Game I know. I don't.
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I don't buy it. I'll take your I mean, I'll take
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your word for it, but I that's something I would not accept
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just blindly. But you know.
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Yeah. You were there.
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You had them. I'll believe you.
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I'm. Just saying, how about you?
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Would you? Do you have anything?
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Anything. This no baseball for me.
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I actually I actually watched some spring training.
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I was actually just watching earlier today I was watching
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some watching some socks and then I was watching the Padres
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Royals game a lot of split squad action going on today.
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I, I hate that by the way, I, I, I understand it has to be done,
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but like, let me. Just split squads.
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Just anyway, but yeah, it's been good.
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Been watching some ball on TV, which is is unusual for me.
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I usually don't get around to watching much of spring
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training, but, you know, finally got the MLBTV subscription
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figured out, so we're trying to tap into it a little bit.
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Yeah, I tried to throw it on the other day and I was like.
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Yeah, sorry about that. Sorry about that.
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Finally gets the musters up the the courage and the strength to
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watch spring training game. And then it just hits you with
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the. This is unavailable in your
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area. Try logging into a different
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account. I was like, you're like, I don't
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have another account. Anyway, Speaking of watching
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some ball, there's some storylines that you and I have
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brought to the table today that we are going to have our eye on
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this year. I'm looking forward to this
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because, I mean, I told you where my head was at, but I
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don't know really what you're bringing to the table.
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So I'm curious to see who or what team because I, I sort of
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made it open-ended. I said, I assume this could be
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player related, this could be team related.
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So I'm curious to see, curious to see where your heads at.
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Do you would you do us the honors of of leading off with
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your? First starter off my first one.
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I feel like I've been, I'm not going to say like unjustifiably
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harsh because after looking at the numbers, it was better than
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I thought, but I, I still think it brings up a good .1 of my
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guys that I want to watch is Julio Rodriguez.
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And in the way that I've said that, like I feel like I've been
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somewhat harsh in the past. The numbers look a lot better
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than what I had in my head and it was a little bit of a down
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year last year. Overall, I think the Mariners
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are still happy with it. You know, a 20 home run season,
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but like the OPS has has just kind of dropped a tick after
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each year starting in 2022. And I know he came onto the
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scene and like he especially showing at the Home Run Derby
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and like it it almost just like you, you got this impression
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that he was already in this like super stardom status.
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And I know we could go off on the Mariners and just how they
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haven't really seemed to take that next step and get over the
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hump. And I don't know if maybe he
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gets wrapped up into that. And, and like I said, I don't
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know if it's justified or not, but for me, just for the, the
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commitment that they've made to him, not necessarily.
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So, I mean, it's a very team friendly deal monetarily.
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Like it's a it's a great contract for what you're
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getting, but I think it's just the commitment of like the
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length and saying like, let's build around this guy.
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Well, they're not really building and I'm ready for him
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to just establish who he is. So, you know, you see guys that
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are young and sometimes they get early success and sometimes they
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take off and then sometimes it fades.
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Maybe it takes a little while to come back and, and I don't know
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if it's like an age thing. I don't know if maybe pitchers
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started to figure out a way to attack him mechanically.
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I see some stuff in his swing that like would be a pretty easy
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fix that I think would help him. But I I'm just ready for him to
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step into stardom. I'm ready for him to step into
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like, I am a top three center fielder in the game.
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I am the Seattle Mariners. Like I'm just, I'm ready for
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that next step. So let's wash last year and
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let's kind of tap into what it has been.
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You know, he came in in his rookie year, hit 28.
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He had 32 in 2023, but we've seen the OPS just drop each
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year, went from 853 down to 818 and then last year was a 734 OPS
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and a 116 OPS plus. Like again, I'm not worried
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about the dollar amount necessarily, but when we're
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talking about a guy that a franchise is committed to for a
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decade plus, I expect more than an OPS in the seven hundreds.
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So show me those he got, man, keep swiping bags.
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He had 37 stolen bases in in 2023, played 155 games.
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I mean, it's not like he's not playing played 143 last year.
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Like that's fine, but he went from 37 double S down to 17.
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Like so there's like there's something going on to where the
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power numbers have dropped a little bit and it kind of
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changes his value. You're always going to get that
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Gold Glove defense, but I'm ready.
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I I just want to see all of it. I want to see you be who you
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should be. And I think this is the year
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that I'm like, I'm really intrigued by what he has.
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They want to see what's real. You know, Murray in the chat
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says, Speaking of Julio and speaking from a baseball fan,
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I've been waiting for the Seattle starting pitchers to go
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off, I think. And he also says happy Sunday.
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I think if what you're saying is true, I think, yeah, I think if
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what you're saying is true, I think if we can get, and I hate
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saying bounce back because like you said, it's not, it's not a
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horrible year, right? I looked it up and because I
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remembered just the last couple years being a little worse off
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than they were. But when you really, I mean, you
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don't even really have to dig very far beyond the county
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numbers to be like, oh, I mean, this was this was a, albeit a
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down year, but serviceable year. And you can't imagine that he's
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going to stay down too long. If you combine that with with
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what they're able to bring to the table from a a staff point
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of view, assuming they they keep everybody around, keep them
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healthy. The Mariners I think can
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continue to insert themselves into the mix of things so that
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we shall see. An outfielder for me, one of the
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the better players in baseball last year.
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Can Jaron Duran repeat a top five WAR season?
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This is tough. This is really tough because I'd
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I love me some Jaron Duran, but I'm pretty sure I went on record
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as saying that like I just, I feel like everything lined up
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correctly for him last year sort of caught lightning in a bottle.
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His skill set, his skill set is going to play.
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He's going to be an absolute menace on the base pass.
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He's going to stretch singles into double S, double S into
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triples. And that's that's not, you're
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not going to have to worry about the speed declining for for some
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time, I would imagine. But I just frankly, I don't know
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how he finished top five in all of baseball and WAR last year
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like. You watch them everyday.
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So like, tell me, is there like some fluff that is that what
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you're saying? No, no, no, it's it's I what I
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saw was incredible. Like he, I mean, Utah truly one
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of those machine, yeah, extra base hit machine in general.
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I mean, I think he led LED, led the league in double s and
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triples, 48 and 14 respectively. So like what yeah, what you, I
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mean, what you see is what you get with Jaron Durant, but you
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it's it's and it's not a knock on him.
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It's really just you look around the league and you go and you're
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telling me he finished top five with all these other dudes
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around baseball gunning for the same sort of performance and
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output. It's it's going to be
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interesting to see. I mean, last year, you look at
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what he did 2024 all all MLB second team, he was obviously an
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All Star, was the MVP of the All Star game finalist for a Silver
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Slugger and a Gold Glove, was the heart and hustle award
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winner for the Red Sox or nominee.
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No surprise there. My gut says, my gut says no.
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I I don't think I mean it. Again, these are storylines that
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we're going to keep an eye on, but if I had to go it, it's
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really hard to duplicate that. And The thing is, is even if he
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didn't, even if you get, I mean, I used the word serviceable
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earlier, even if he gives you 75% of what he gave you last
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year, you would absolutely take that in a heartbeat.
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You would absolutely take that in a heartbeat because again,
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some of the additions they made this offseason, namely Bregman,
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he alleviates a little bit of that pressure offensively and it
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it gives him the freedom to do even more than what he did last
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year because he doesn't have to put that weight on his
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shoulders. If you get more from him this
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year as a result, great. But if not, again, some of that
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pressure has been offset with some roster manipulation, some
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additions that have been made. But yeah, Baseball Reference
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right now hasn't projected for 16 homers, 62 ribbies OPS,
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that's I believe a 797. So I mean that's.
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I think I I I'd be crazy not to say yes to that if I'm a Red Sox
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fan, like I take that if that if we Fast forward and said you had
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a regression from last year, but you still give that.
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I think I think he gives that. I told you, I think the last
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episode or a few episodes ago, like as a Yankees fan, he he
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worries me more than anyone else on that team.
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I'm more nervous about him. And I don't know if there's
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something in the water in Boston that they just generate stud
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center fielders. You go back to Johnny Damon and
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Jacoby Ellisbury after that. It's almost like you don't you
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maybe skip 1 short period of a generation and then next thing
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you know, you have like a league leader in center field.
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So he worries me, man. There's a lot of guys.
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He's freaking ripped. He's like, it's not like he's a
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frail, fast guy. Like that guy is built like a
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freaking superhero. At the same time, he worries me.
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So I'm surprised by that. I'm surprised that you're not as
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confident as I am worried, if that makes sense.
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I mean, and, and I'll, I'll let you get to your second guy here,
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but just look at I mean, and I'm not telling you names you don't
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already know. Aaron Judge.
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Here's how we finished last year with with war leaders last year,
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Aaron Judge, Bobby Witt, Shohei Otani, Gunner Henderson, Jaron
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Duran, Juan Soto, Matt Chapman, Francisco Lindor, Jose Hermiaz,
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Ramirez, Catal Marte. He finished, he finished Jaron
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Duran finished with an 8.7. If there was a quote, UN quote
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regression to say a mid 5, you know who finished with a mid
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five last year? Brent Rooker with a 5-6.
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Would you take what Brent Rooker did for you last year?
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Certainly, certainly different styles of play.
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Brent Rooker is going to give you much more power than than
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Jaron Duran is. But would you take a a season
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like Brent Rooker short? So that's why I'm not again,
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this isn't a knock on on Jaron Duran.
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This is more of just I, I think the, the best of the best are
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going to continue to get better. And I, I, I just feel I, I see
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it being very difficult for Jane Durant to crack the top five in
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consecutive seasons. I just, I don't know, I'd love
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to see it. I'm, I'm not going to sit here
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and wish that it doesn't happen just so I'm right.
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I want to see it happen, but I think that would require that
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require a lot to to go right. I think I love the aspects of a
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traditional lead off guy, but if there is a day that the Red Sox
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move on from Devers, I think that is your 3 hole moving
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forward for a long time. That's how that's how I feel
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about Jared Duran. Like I I think the first guy
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that has like I think that there's a very easy 4 tool
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player in that that can scratch into five tool at times.
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I think it's I think it's like a no doubt 3 tool wake up.
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Don't even need to stretch. I'm a three tool guy.
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More often than not, he's going to be 4 tool and then if you if
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there's like a shift in gears down the road at some point in
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his career, I could see five tool for sure.
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Love it. Yeah.
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Who do you got the weird theme? I didn't.
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I got to be honest. You texted me the your list.
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I don't even remember who else is on it.
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But like, let's stay in center field.
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I'm going. Louise Robert, Junior.
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Yes. I think it's something that is
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very intriguing with the White Sox scenario.
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Obviously anybody that hasn't lived under a rock understands
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that he's been shopped and and there's been conversations there
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and I'm curious to see how he performs and if if the White Sox
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continue to hold their price tag at where it is.
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And I don't know if I have any, you know, like tangible offers
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that I can read off that of what they're requesting.
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You know, I I think I'm just intrigued to see what this turns
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into because there isn't a team in in baseball that wouldn't be
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interested in a Louise Robert junior, whether you play center
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field everyday or, you know, they shift them over to right
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field or, you know, give him more of a ADH opportunity.
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But like the health thing, man, the lower half injuries are just
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so hard to be confident in. It's one thing that I feel like
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the two most worrisome injuries to me are hips and wrists.
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Those are like as a as a position player, those are the
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two things that I would worry about most when wrists start to
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go. Those are miserable.
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When hips start to go, all the other injuries start leaking in
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with it, hamstrings, quads, calves.
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And that's what we've seen with Louise Robert, like over the few
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years, man. It's like you came onto the
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scene and blew up and then it's just like, who are you?
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I don't know who you are. I can't quite figure it out.
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You played 56 games in a shortened season of of 60 games
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and then it's just been weird. 68 games, 98 games and then it's
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like 02023. I am that guy.
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I am that guy and he produced 38 bombs, 857 OPS.
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So it's like it's just the the inconsistency up and down.
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I'm not sure what you're going to get.
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He played 100 games last year, which I feel like he's starting
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to trend in the right direction, but like, it's not just.
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You know, starting off the season this way, it's not just
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it's like two or three stints throughout a season that you're
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like, I can tell that's lingering.
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And I think he was lucky to get to 100 games last year.
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But the storyline I want to pay attention to is that the mixed
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with with the contract because like it is a very, I think this
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is the other aspect of that of the White Sox holding their
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price tag where it is, is because you can, there's a lot
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of potential in that. But this contract is not only
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affordable, you're back-to-back club options for 2026 and 2027.
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So whatever team commits to him has the ability to say, I can
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get out of this right away or I just snatched him and we have a
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potential MVP every year in our lineup.
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That's I just don't know what he is.
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I think there's so many question marks around him.
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This to me is like a, I'm not going to say last chance, but I
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think this is like a, you know, the White Sox got to get
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something for him. And I don't want to see that
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price tag drop too much if he moves on to a different team and
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absolutely blows up. And that's the other part of it,
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too. It's like, how committed are you
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to be staying healthy when you're playing for a dumpster
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fire of an organization? You know, does that change when
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you when you change into a different uniform?
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And I know you mentioned a few episodes ago that like, if the
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Phillies can somehow find a way to get Mike Trout, that would be
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the perfect combo. This to me is like a this is a
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fit. You talk about a a wonder Bread.
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You know, not enough culture going on in that in that dugout.
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Add a little Louise Robert. I mean, those, those boys can
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have some fun. Let's not.
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Let's not fully. Well, they need a little spice,
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they need a little flavor in there.
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And I feel like Mr. Robert could do that.
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So that would be like kind of my guess if if they can find a way
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to make it happen. And financially it's not that
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bad. So it's my next guy to watch.
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Next storyline to watch for me, which by the way, your first two
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thus far were storylines that I was considering very much
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considering Julio Rodriguez like it it we, we've been talking for
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weeks now about how some of these names have just been sort
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of sneaking up on us in terms of how long they've been in the
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league. And Julio Rodriguez by no
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stretch has been in the league. We're we're not talking about
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him being oh man, he's been around for like a decade, but
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just one of those guys are like every year that passes and and
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in in the situations like that, you're going all right, like,
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let's really, let's really take off now.
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If you're if you're J Rod, like let's really.
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I mean, I know again, he's had he's had great seasons thus far,
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but like, let's let's take it up to another.
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Let's let's kick it up another notch.
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And then Louise Robert. Yeah.
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I mean, that's a fair, that's a, that's a wild card if I've ever
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seen one in terms like in addition.
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If a team can get him at the deadline, like look out.
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If he's going right and out, the you immediately just got an MVP
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tossed in. That's what he is.
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That's what he's capable of. Yeah.
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So as I was saying, my next storyline is this going to be a
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year that Jackson holiday finally settles in and takes off
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and I got a little treat for us here.
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I've got I've got our good friend Ryan Ripken fresh off the
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train. He I texted him I was like, hey,
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can we get your thoughts on on Jackson holiday for 2025?
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He goes, I'm on a train, but I'll get you when I get home.
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Within minutes of getting home shoots over a video.
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So I got a little treat for you here from Baltimore, from Prince
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of Baltimore, friend of the program, Ryan Ripken.
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Nate Kyle three O take what's up And Kyle Hey, could this be the
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year for Jackson Holiday? It might, but here's the reality
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for Jackson, still such a young player and I would still argue
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there's only a few players and and the list is so small who
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could have more upside than Jackson over the next decade.
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And he is that talented, he can be that good.
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But we need to take a step back and realize he isn't going to be
24:55
that All Star to hit 30 jacks, hundred RBI's and hit 300.
25:00
Because guess what? He didn't do that when he just
25:02
came up to the bigs last year. And I think you're going to see
25:05
a little bit more of that transition this year.
25:07
I think if Jackson is playing every single day, you're going
25:10
to see the progression go through some growing pains and
25:12
by the end of the summer, things might start to be clicking for
25:16
the young star. But the age is a big thing.
25:19
He's going to have to continue to learn how to be a big
25:22
leaguer. And I hope though, for his sake,
25:24
he is getting those reps. What's going to help unlock
25:27
Jackson is reps. And if he gets the reps sooner
25:30
than later, he's going to figure it out and piece it all
25:33
together. And hey, guys, I will be on
25:36
soon. You heard it here first.
25:38
Appreciate you. Prince of Baltimore.
25:44
Ryan Riverhead. Prince of Baltimore.
25:47
Ryan, the only the only issue that I take with your video and
25:52
much appreciated. But you said he he's more than
25:55
likely not going to be that guy that hits that puts up 30 and
25:58
100. Why not?
26:00
Ryan, I, I want Jackson holiday to be a 3000 guy.
26:05
I know he's not. I know he's not I I fully
26:08
understand your reasoning and you're, you're far more of a
26:11
reasonable man than I am. But my goodness, if you have you
26:16
seen a picture of Jackson Holiday recently?
26:20
I'm sure he's jacked. Dude is yoked and that to me it
26:26
doesn't compute when you see that and you got Ryan going,
26:29
it's probably not going to put up 3000.
26:30
I said I look at that picture. I said that's that's 5125 if
26:35
I've ever seen it No, but this is this is going to be again
26:39
storyline. I'm going to have my eye on
26:41
something that was encouraging that I, I came across was that
26:46
he's, he's spending some time working with Brian Roberts and
26:50
JJ Hardy down to spring training, which has been, I
26:54
could only imagine beneficial for his, his defense.
26:59
The some of the quotes I read were that I think, I think Brian
27:03
Roberts was talking about how he, he just still plays as if
27:06
he's a shortstop and how there's certainly some, some
27:09
similarities, some crossover there between the two middle and
27:12
field positions. But that footwork when it comes
27:16
to things like double plays and, and things like that, you
27:19
there's, you're going to need to play it differently than you
27:23
would if you were shortstop. And so if he's able to iron out
27:26
some of those things, hopefully that helps, you know, ramp up
27:30
his confidence a little bit because in baseball, anything
27:32
that you can utilize to help boost your confidence is a gift.
27:38
And if you're struggling at the plate, but you are, you've got
27:41
it figured out defensively that you got to build off that.
27:45
So if, if Jackson is able to, you know, spend the spring
27:50
working on cutting down on his on on chases, he's able to sort
27:54
of tighten up the strike zone a little bit, straighten up, you
27:59
know, clean up his strike zone specifically and better identify
28:05
what he's looking for. Combine that with some some
28:09
improved defensive ability, I think I think this could be a a
28:13
good year for for Jackson. I like that, man.
28:16
Yeah. I mean, I, I agree with what
28:18
Ryan's saying because it's like, I think it's a whole different
28:23
thing when you have a young guy that no one expects to come up
28:28
and produce. When you have a young guy that
28:30
came like no one's heard of and all of a sudden like a, you
28:33
know, no offense to like a Jordan Westbrook didn't have
28:35
the, the hype, didn't have the spotlight, didn't have his dad,
28:40
you know, being a former big leaguer sitting in, in the 3rd
28:42
row. Like those types of aspects to
28:45
it where it's it, there's not time.
28:48
The one of the biggest things Ryan said was to settle in.
28:51
Like there's, there's just so much going on, There's so much
28:55
attention. So for him to have like a full
28:58
spring training to be around incredible defenders, some of
29:05
the best defenders we grew up watching, to have that, just
29:09
those opportunities to like understand, this is where I'm
29:12
going to be. This is my home and I'm and I'm
29:16
going to have the opportunity to play every day without the hype,
29:20
without, you know, I don't want dad sitting there constantly in
29:24
the interviews. I don't want to have that.
29:26
I want to just be another one of the guys to settle in.
29:29
So those reps are going to help him a ton.
29:31
I think I like that pic so much that I'm going to stay in
29:36
Baltimore, but not for good reasons.
29:40
Unfortunately. I'm going to have to watch what
29:42
this rotation is going to be doing.
29:48
I there's obvious disappointment here.
29:51
There's Orioles fans, there's fans around the league that have
29:56
watched the the bubble ready to burst in Baltimore and they just
30:03
didn't really do much this offseason to take that next
30:06
step. So, you know, when you're
30:09
looking at some of these names like it, it's it's not bad.
30:13
I do see innings getting eaten up here, you know, between a Zac
30:17
Eflyn, between a Charlie Morton. I, I do like what I saw in
30:22
Albert Suarez last year. I, I, I think Dean Kramer's
30:27
probably just a very good middle of the rotation kind of guy.
30:33
And then Ken Grayson, like take those steps, you know, and so
30:38
there's there's question marks throughout this that I'm unsure
30:42
about, you know, and Kyle Bradish, like it's, it's just
30:47
something that I want to see. And I I think this is a year
30:52
where the AL East is going to be better than it has been in in
30:56
the years past. I think you're seeing, you know,
31:02
the Yankees. I don't think there's huge.
31:05
Fall off for. Regression from last year, but
31:07
they're still going to be at the top of the conversation.
31:10
The Red Sox obviously took steps like the Blue Jays are in
31:13
desperation mode and kind of just having to succeed.
31:17
This is just the way it is the Rays getting, you know, some of
31:21
their studs back from injuries. The Orioles have to go, man.
31:27
Like they've they've got to figure it out.
31:28
They've I'm I'm just disappointed in in what happened
31:34
and I'm curious to see how quickly they pivot.
31:38
I'm curious to see if there's a surprising, you know, we're
31:41
going to prove everybody wrong and and all of a sudden this
31:44
rotation comes out and dices. You know, there's nothing wrong
31:47
with having under the radar names.
31:49
We we saw what the Detroit Tigers, you know, rotation can
31:54
do, but that's having a dude that's having a Cy Young guy at
31:58
the top. And even then they fall short.
32:01
So it's like if this roster and this young core is ready to pop,
32:06
why aren't they doing more? Why aren't they bringing some
32:09
guys in? And what is it about about their
32:15
coaching, about their philosophy that isn't quite clicking right?
32:19
Jack Flaherty didn't seem to really like it there.
32:22
I think there's a reason Corbin Burns didn't want to come back
32:25
there. I don't know what's going on,
32:28
but I I need them to kind of get going because I don't want to
32:32
see a Blue Jays 2 point OI don't want to see where we've got all
32:36
this hype and all this young talent and it doesn't really pop
32:40
off. I think that city and that
32:42
organization deserves to go. They have new ownership, they've
32:45
got new money, they've got the hype and fandom is ready to just
32:52
celebrate what this team can do. And the rest of the league needs
32:56
to be put on notice at some point, but they need to do
32:59
something to back it up. Then it's go time.
33:02
So it starts with them. I'm watching the rotation.
33:07
You're talking expectations, fan base that's eager to see some
33:11
success, really little to no expectations for this team but
33:17
this player. However, I'm very much excited
33:20
to to see whether or not 2025 is the year that this individual
33:26
becomes more of a household name.
33:28
Because I'll admit, I'd you being out there, you may know a
33:32
little bit more about the trajectory of his career, but I
33:37
feel like I know very little about his skill set, what he
33:42
offers. But I'm I'll say this, I'm
33:46
excited to learn Ezekiel Tovar. It's a great pull.
33:51
This dude, this, this is an exciting baseball player.
33:57
This is an exciting baseball player.
33:58
Like I looked up he put up he had 20 spare me the Coors Field.
34:03
He put up 26 jacks last year, 26 OPS plus A1 O 3.
34:13
Some of the comps I've seen, I actually saw it sweet put out by
34:17
MLB Network through their age 2020 or excuse me, they're
34:24
through their age 22 season. He has more home runs then
34:32
Frankie Lindor, Zander Bogart's Troy Tulowitzki more RBIs than
34:39
those 3 and has accumulated a WAR of 5.9 and the comp that I'm
34:48
interested in hearing maybe your thoughts on through age 2022
34:54
season A59 war for Tovar, a 5.4 for Zana Bogart's Troy
35:00
Tulowitzki 6.4. Those are two I mean go ahead
35:05
and assume Lindor's and and sort of a league is a league of his
35:08
own in that regard. But Bogart's and Tulo, I feel
35:11
if, if you can get a if, if Tovar is able to continue to
35:16
post because he posts last two years, 153 games played, 157
35:23
games played. He he missed three games because
35:27
of the birth of birth of his kid.
35:29
So fair. I'm I'm sure it sounds like he
35:32
didn't. He was trying to look for
35:34
another way to avoid it so he could just take the field.
35:37
But if he's going to be able to provide you, if he's going to
35:40
stay healthy, he's going to be able to provide you that
35:42
consistency and and improve on a like a 26 Homer season.
35:50
I'll take a I'll take a healthy Trevor story type from that all
35:56
day. He's locked.
35:57
I think his option contract ends in what, 20-30?
36:02
I think he has an option for 2031.
36:06
But yeah, lock, sign me up for that.
36:10
Sign me up for that. And so the the storyline here is
36:14
ultimately, again, sort of as I was alluding to, if he can, if
36:18
Savar can become even more so of a household name and to to many,
36:21
he may already be in. Apologies for again, just not
36:25
being fully up to speed on on what this guy brings to the
36:29
table. But I'm excited to watch this
36:35
one of the one of the very few bright spots in Colorado right
36:40
now. Yeah, you're exactly right,
36:42
dude. I mean, the the problem is this,
36:47
I feel like anybody that's familiar with the Rockies is
36:50
like, we've seen this story before then, no pun intended,
36:53
but like it started with Tulo and then it went to Trevor's
36:56
story and Aronado and you're like, and DJ Lemahieu, like you
37:00
see these like, and I'm not going to sit here and just give
37:05
all the praise to being at Mile High and and playing Coors
37:08
Field. Like, no, that's not the only
37:11
production you're getting. It's just can they build around
37:16
it and this is the first time that they've committed long term
37:21
to an affordable contract that is realistic for them that
37:25
allows them to fill in the the gaps in the other way.
37:29
They have some talent there. They've got some promise on the
37:33
offensive side. They're always going to struggle
37:35
to get pitching. I'm just eager to see that like,
37:40
is this different? They're producing dudes.
37:45
It's just not clicking and and all the all the pieces aren't
37:49
coming together at the same time.
37:51
And outside of, you know, what was a very fun ride to witness
37:56
in in 2007. And yeah, they, you know, got
38:01
got hammered in the World Series.
38:02
But like a lot of what they did that year was it was very like
38:08
2004 Red Sox. It was very just hodgepodgey,
38:14
some vets mixed in with some young guys and a lot of names
38:18
that nobody really is familiar with until they pop off.
38:22
So like you see how rare those those teams come around.
38:27
That's not a normal thing, right?
38:29
Like there's a reason why we still reference those teams
38:33
because it's been over 20 years and we haven't really seen any
38:38
other repeats like that is it just doesn't happen.
38:40
It's just how the cards fall sometimes.
38:43
But like they can't just sit and bank on that.
38:45
The Rockies can't expect that same recipe to to come back and
38:50
and save the day again. They have to pull the trigger on
38:53
some names. They have to find a way to
38:55
commit to more than just one or two pieces and then piss that
39:00
guy off until he wants to be traded and go find success
39:03
somewhere else. So I'd I'd like to say it's
39:06
going to be different. I hope that he's not.
39:10
It's not just a one man show there.
39:12
You know, I'd like to see some success in in Colorado.
39:15
It's another, you know, it's another franchise that could use
39:19
it a new chapter. But it's a good storyline, man,
39:23
that guy's a stud. And for those unfamiliar with
39:26
that name, or or maybe haven't, you know, gotten to watch too
39:29
many games because why would you turn the Rockies game on?
39:32
I get it. That's a good name to watch,
39:34
man. He gives me Willy Adamus vibes
39:37
too. That's that's kind of another
39:40
trajectory that I I see in my head.
39:43
Just some occasional surprising pop plays good defense, very
39:48
athletic, probably never really like a big league leader at that
39:52
position in any given stat, but is like very consistently good
39:57
across the board. And you may never see a 150 or
40:02
over OPS plus out of him, but I think the floor is really high.
40:09
Than than most guys. It's a great point.
40:12
It's a great point. Does that wrap us up?
40:18
I think it does. Then I think you should go ahead
40:21
and hit that button because I think it's along the same lines,
40:24
kind of not really. Whose quote was this?
40:55
Whose quote was this laid on? Me, you said.
40:57
You preface it by saying wow, this.
40:59
This could be a tricky one this. Is a little tricky 1.
41:02
You told me like, is this a, is this a good take?
41:06
Is this a? Is this a poor take?
41:08
It's it's kind of back and forth.
41:10
Depends on who you ask is what you told.
41:12
Me, we did a little bit of this today.
41:14
It's not really necessarily sleepers, but it is something
41:19
that we're looking out for. This is an episode March 1st of
41:24
2021 and we were talking about sleepers, guys that we wanted to
41:31
pay attention to. Old of you to assume I wanted
41:34
the the episode info first. I hear you, but I had to give
41:37
you some context that's kind of just goes right into that here.
41:40
I love a good segue. All right, I'm going Marcella
41:44
Zuna. I think it's a pick we've
41:47
already talked about, but it's a pick in my opinion that should
41:50
have happened immediately. Four years, 64 mil.
41:54
But I mean, obviously just coming off a monster 2020
41:57
season, biggest thing for me, continue to provide protection
42:01
for Freddie Freeman, which regardless of what he really
42:05
does at the plate, as long as he can provide a presence at the
42:07
plate and allow Freeman to continue raking, that's a win in
42:11
my book. So I don't really care what he
42:13
does. He's going to perform.
42:14
But at the very least, if he doesn't, still going to protect
42:17
Freeman. That fit just makes sense in
42:20
Atlanta. That is tricky.
42:24
That could be. That could be you or me.
42:27
I was. It's tricky also because of
42:30
like, were we right? Were we wrong?
42:34
Yeah, well, I'm, yeah, No, you're right.
42:36
I'm, I'm just saying in the, in the, in the context of picking
42:41
up on little like isms that we that you and I each have, it's
42:46
like you sprinkled in some, you sprinkled in some good ones
42:50
there. I'm like, oh, that's me.
42:51
And then I heard another one. I'm like, that's definitely
42:53
Nate. My gut says one thing, but I
43:00
don't really feel like going with my gut today.
43:02
So I'm going to go ahead and say this was you.
43:14
Should have went with my gut. Yeah, Should have gone with the
43:17
gut. It was Mr. Casey.
43:20
So I pulled up some numbers because I was like, I wonder how
43:24
did it age like milk or did it age like wine, Right.
43:28
And that's what the song lyrics are.
43:30
And it's tough. And if there's any Braves fans
43:32
in the chat, feel free to hop in.
43:35
This was kind of weird because 2021 was the year that, you
43:41
know, there was some domestic violence stuff.
43:43
We had the the suspension in 2022 that officially settled in.
43:48
He only played 48 games in 2021. He didn't do well those
43:53
back-to-back seasons. It was a 645 OPSA, 687 OPS.
44:02
And then 2023 came around and that's where we settled in I
44:08
guess. 40 jacks to 39 last year OPS both years over 900, like
44:15
OPS plus 1:40 and 1:54. Like those are big numbers.
44:23
So I'm like I, I, I think I got to give you some credit, like
44:28
you were half right. The stuff about Freddie Freeman
44:31
was unfortunate. I didn't mean to throw jabs that
44:33
way, but I didn't say it. So I.
44:37
Think what was the bit about because I think it was just
44:40
about. Protecting him, I guess that's
44:41
what you were more worried about.
44:45
You're like, just protect him. I don't care about anything
44:49
else, just protect him. How is that a jab at Freddie?
44:52
Freeman No, it's just like a jab at that the the Braves fans for
44:58
mentioning his name. I feel like it's like a
44:59
Voldemort, you know what I mean? Like you can't that's fair.
45:01
You can't say Freddie Freeman to them.
45:04
That's fair, but. I don't know, but yeah man, I
45:07
think it it aged like target. Wine.
45:14
Like, not a great wine, not a great.
45:16
Wine. A great wine.
45:18
You know, maybe a couple more years of this.
45:20
And it gets the job done. Yeah, we upgrade it to a a
45:23
local. Winery.
45:24
Who knows, We'll see. Let us commence.
45:32
Wow, that was good. Let us commence the draft we
45:36
have on deck for today the entire career with one team
45:43
draft. Let us see here.
45:49
Got to let the folks know on on Twitter they they love they love
45:52
a good draft. They do, folks.
45:54
Folks on Instagram however, I don't know, can't say the same.
45:59
They hate, I think people on Instagram just don't like us.
46:04
I think there's a lot of people that just don't like us, but
46:06
it's fine. You know, we can sit here and
46:08
talk ball. It's it's cool.
46:09
I'm cool. So yeah, this is the entire
46:12
career with one draft. The stipulation is that the the
46:17
list of players that we're going off of requires that they had
46:22
spent 10 years at least at the big league level and of those 10
46:29
plus years obviously all with one team.
46:31
So no randomizer today. We're just going straight draft.
46:35
You can start wherever you want on the diamond.
46:38
And regarding positions, we are going with our alternate.
46:46
The. Alternate, our alternate
46:48
structure, we're going 4 infielders, we're going 3
46:53
outfielders, we're going we'll have ADH and we'll have a
47:00
starting pitcher. And so as a result of Nate
47:05
winning last last episodes draft or no?
47:12
Oh yeah, it was a draft of active hit like totals.
47:18
We'll call. IT active career.
47:20
Yeah, active career hit total. You won that that that did not
47:25
require a vote. That was just a straight up Fact
47:28
Check, which we did and Nate won.
47:30
So as a result, Nate will get first pick for this draft.
47:35
Nate. I mean, hit me with Cal Ripken
47:40
Junior, the Iron Man himself. Really.
47:46
Yep. Really.
47:49
Yep. I mean, all right, and we're
48:00
doing snake draft, correct as we as we do, OK, All right, So Nate
48:06
went. Cal 21 seasons.
48:15
Give me the Splendid Splinter, the greatest hitter, whoever
48:23
lived there. You go.
48:25
Ted Williams in my outfield and then give me.
48:53
This is tough. There's we've already reached
48:56
that point in the draft where I'm I'm not entirely sure who
49:00
who I want to go with here. Give me.
49:19
No, I've I, you know what? I I made this.
49:22
I've made this mistake before. I'm not.
49:25
I'm going to play it smart here. Give me where can I where can I
49:32
slot him? Can I slot him?
49:36
We're not doing a reliever by the way, right, just the
49:38
starter, correct. OK, so.
49:52
You already got to go to the committee.
49:57
Well, I mean, are we, are we just essentially chalking up DH
50:01
as a free spot basically, Yeah. OK, give me, you know what?
50:10
Give me Roberto Clemente. Solid, solid.
50:20
Give me Roberto Clemente, what do you got?
50:25
Give me Jeter then, yes, there was some strategy there.
50:34
And then give me Bob Gibson on the bump.
50:44
Hey, I hate that. I hate that.
50:48
That was stupid dude. I should have.
50:49
What was I thinking? I should have?
50:51
I should have assumed you were going there and just snag them
50:55
while I could. All right, well.
51:03
I was looking at Roberto Clemente too.
51:05
Give me well, I I don't need to rush to get a pitcher now.
51:10
I guess you don't. That's that's now that's nice.
51:15
That's. Nice, that's a nice aspect.
51:17
I can, I can, I can go last pick if I wanted to.
51:25
Should I go Walter Johnson on the bump?
51:28
Not enough people talk about Walter Johnson.
51:34
I'm going to I'm going to just going to double check here.
51:45
Double check, double check. Oh.
51:59
Give me give me Mickey Mantle in the outfield, jeez.
52:12
And then give me Tony. Gwynn is my DH.
52:18
Wow, Yeah. So I don't need to rush to the
52:28
outfield. You should've.
52:32
You should've. I'll say that.
52:34
I mean, you let you, you left. You left the greatest hitter of
52:40
all time, two of the greatest hitters of all time.
52:44
I mean, these are all great hitters, but two of the great
52:46
without argument, two of the greatest hitters of all time on
52:49
the board. And then you just handed me
52:52
Roberto Clemente and Mickey Mantle.
52:53
What are we talking about? You think I'm stressed?
52:55
I'm not stressed. I am not stressed. 2 picks Give
53:13
me give me Chipper Jones. When I ask Gehrig when it when
53:23
you asked me if we're doing a reliever, I said no, right?
53:28
I was correct, OK. I was just.
53:31
I was searching players couldn't remember what I told you.
53:32
All right, so you're taking Chipper?
53:35
And Lou Gehrig. In that order.
53:39
In that order, sure. Not that it matters, but not
53:43
that it matters. Some of the, well, some of the
53:44
graphics. I put the draft pick number next
53:47
to it just so people know what the overall pick was because we
53:50
do the snake draft. All right.
53:51
So your infield is set. All right.
53:56
So I have no infield. Which is.
53:59
I'm cool. I'm I'm totally fine.
54:02
I'm I could not be more fun. Give me.
54:08
So I need 3 infielders and a starting pitcher.
54:12
No, I mean excuse me, 4 infielders and a starting
54:14
pitcher. And a catcher?
54:16
Are we doing a catcher? Sorry, forgot about that.
54:21
OK, OK, give me. Oh, now this is interesting.
54:48
This is interesting. What kind of give me, give me
55:10
Stan Musial at in the infield? OK.
55:22
And give me. Hold on.
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I just need to confirm one thing and then we are good to go.
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Give me. The hold on the Is he the only?
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No, I don't even know what you're doing.
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Whatever. Oh, what am I doing?
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No, give me Johnny Bench behind the dish.
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What am I thinking? Yeah, that's what were you
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thinking before that? I wasn't thinking Johnny Bench,
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and I saw, well, I mean, whatever, if you're going to
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pick him, you're going to pick him.
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But I saw. Joe Mauer, Anyone else to pick?
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I think those are the only two catchers, aren't there?
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Yeah, well, I saw Joe Mauer and I was like, he certainly he
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can't be the only one that only played the only, the only Hall
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of Famer, I should say. I I should clarify, only two
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Hall of Famers. All right, all right, all right.
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I was hoping I could go one more round before Johnny Bench went,
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but that's all right. That is OK.
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That is OK. The on this list, your eyes like
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automatically go to the Hall of Farmers, but they're still like
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really good names that aren't Hall of Farmers.
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Oh yeah, there's some dudes, there's some dudes give.
57:30
So if you go like line up configuration, it could make
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things, you know, like it kind of changes your mind a little
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bit. Yeah, you got to give the
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because like. Pepper Martin has to be
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considered, you know. OK, all right, Yo, shout out.
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But if you know ball, you know Bobby Higginson, that now that
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is a jersey that I would buy in a minute, dude.
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Bobby Higginson, back when I played, what was that?
57:57
What was that computer? What was that PC game?
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It was like Triple play 2000 something.
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I played with the Tigers a lot for some reason, and Bobby
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Higginson was that dude mashed. I'm going to go with.
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Ryan Howard's on this list. I know, crazy.
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Well, just to give me a little more time, I'll give you 1.
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Going to go Joe DiMaggio in the outfield.
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I hate that you got Bob Gibson. That just kills me.
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I know this. I'm trying to think like
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strategy wise you know? I don't think there's anything
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to strategize though. Well, I still have my DH that
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like just makes me kind of. Oh, I see.
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Wait, Yeah, that's the, I think that's the last domino here.
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Sorry buddy, DH is like a hard one to to commit to.
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I'll go Edgar Martinez. I'll do that.
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I'll I'll stay traditional, get the 1st.
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You're going Edgar Hall Famer, DH.
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There you go. OK on the infield.
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As that is all I need left outside of my picture which I'm
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saving for last. Give me
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give me two. I would say the two best.
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Well, let me just make sure I'm not missing anybody obvious
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here. Give me two of the best, the two
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best third baseman of all time. Sure.
1:01:07
Give me my I hate when you say that because then it makes me
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think I've left somebody off. No, I think that that's like
1:01:14
it's a no brainer because those names are like I went back and
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forth with for my DH. Give me yeah.
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Give me Mike Schmidt and Brooks Robinson.
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All. Right.
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So you got one infielder left in a starting pitcher?
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And a starting pitcher. I've got 2 outfielders and my
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ketcha. In the chat can't can't go with
1:02:01
Kershaw because career has yet to finish, so who knows, maybe
1:02:06
he plays with the Rangers. You never know, Never know.
1:02:11
I doubt it, doubt it. Battlefield gets a little thin
1:02:17
eventually, you know, no disrespect, but I mean it does
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thin out. It was your own fault.
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Yeah, I went heavy infield. You went heavy outfield.
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I didn't really realize how deep the infield was.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's.
1:02:39
I mean, to be fair, I'm not going to sit here and pretend
1:02:41
like I knew either, but it was just luck.
1:02:46
It's a happy coincidence. Just go with Joe Dimaggio's
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brother. I don't think we have to get to
1:03:02
that point yet. I now I bet you I bet if you did
1:03:09
go with Dom DiMaggio, people that voted on it would as they
1:03:13
do with all these drafts, they'd be like, no, you know, Nate,
1:03:16
Nate going with the brother chemistry there that's going to
1:03:19
play huge in the clubhouse. I think that'll that'll really
1:03:22
have have that'll pay good dividends.
1:03:25
For that team. OK, exactly, exactly.
1:03:30
He knows what he's doing. The logic.
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Nah. No, the logic of no, you know
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what? I'm going to say anything.
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Our voters are great. Give me, give me Kirby Pocket.
1:03:48
You already use your DH, so this is outfield.
1:03:57
And you need another outfielder and a catcher.
1:04:01
Yep, and Carl Ystromsky. Good pick, Good pick.
1:04:10
I was considering Carl, but I wasn't going to put Carl above
1:04:15
Ted Williams, Roberto Clemente or Mickey Mantle, you know?
1:04:17
Sure, Understandable. OK, for my I need one more
1:04:23
infielder, correct? You do, and a starting pitcher.
1:04:27
One more infielder and a starting pitcher.
1:04:31
How can we just go ahead and finish off this dub here?
1:04:36
Another third baseman. Oh, you already have Mike
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Schmidt. My bad.
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Yeah. Yeah, sure do.
1:04:49
Sure do. I think this was a better draft
1:04:56
to go second, those back-to-back picks right away, you know?
1:05:04
I mean, to be fair, you, you could have grabbed one of those
1:05:07
guys, but you were, you were playing strategy.
1:05:12
And I'll probably still win this thing.
1:05:14
No, I've, I've quite frankly, I, I, I don't think you will.
1:05:17
I got a real good mix. I I mean, you got a good mix,
1:05:21
but just hands down better for me, but that, that's just what
1:05:25
the paper says. There's a lot of there's a lot
1:05:28
of fans behind some of these names.
1:05:30
Your fans are too dead to vote so.
1:05:34
You know, that's a great observation.
1:05:36
I think that is like, jokes aside, I, yeah, I think, I think
1:05:40
that plays into the voting 'cause they're like, sometimes
1:05:42
we'll do these drafts that involve former like, you know,
1:05:45
well, past players have been gone for years or whatever.
1:05:49
And I think like on paper I'm like, I, I should walk away with
1:05:52
this cleanly. And then it's like 7525 in favor
1:05:57
of Nate. I'm like I I these people just
1:05:59
not understand who some of the games greatest players.
1:06:02
Are or I think the question of who you start your franchise
1:06:05
with probably doesn't start with Stan Musial, you know what I
1:06:09
mean? Like, I don't think that is
1:06:13
somebody who who gets a lot of I'm not saying it's justified,
1:06:17
but I think that he. That's the key.
1:06:21
That's the key. You can't say that it's not.
1:06:23
You can't say that it's justified because it's not.
1:06:26
If you knew ball. You guys, sometimes you got to
1:06:29
get out there and go get dubs. I'd rather I'd rather lay my lay
1:06:35
my head on my pillow at night knowing that I picked just on
1:06:38
paper, a better, a better club, a better squad than trying to
1:06:43
win these win these measly drafts that are lopsided anyway.
1:06:51
OK, you know what? Give me, I mean, I, I could, I,
1:07:02
I got, I got a couple choices here.
1:07:06
Who do I want to? Hold on, give me, give me your
1:07:25
Jackie Robinson on the infield. And to round it out, give me on
1:07:36
the bump. One of the greatest.
1:07:42
There we go. One of the greatest peaks of all
1:07:44
time. I mean, I can't say carriers
1:07:47
sadly cut short. Go ahead and just give me, give
1:07:54
me hold on one last one last scan.
1:08:03
One last scan. Yeah, go ahead, give me.
1:08:14
I'm already writing it. See, now, you've said that
1:08:18
before, and then I'll save my pick and then you'll look up at
1:08:22
me. Whoa.
1:08:24
OK, so I'm trying to avoid that. It's already happened multiple
1:08:28
times, so I'm just trying to avoid it.
1:08:31
OK, You went Bob Gibson, which would have been my pick, Walter
1:08:41
Johnson. I mean, you want to talk about
1:08:43
one of the greatest of all time, Big train.
1:08:45
Shut up. Big train.
1:08:47
Go ahead. Check out that baseball
1:08:49
reference page someday. You're bored.
1:08:52
It's pretty crazy. Bored.
1:08:56
Oh, if you're bored, yeah. Gross. 110 career shutouts.
1:09:03
That that's unheard of. Give me.
1:09:07
Go ahead. Give me Sandy Koufax and give me
1:09:13
the win. Give me a sneaky name behind the
1:09:22
dish that doesn't have yellow for Hall of Fame on this list
1:09:26
yet. But he will.
1:09:28
Yadi or Molina will be behind the dish for me.
1:09:35
Said he didn't want to go. Joe Mauer.
1:09:37
No, I think Yadis goes down as the.
1:09:41
This is the superior there. Good stuff, guy.
1:09:49
I like it. All right, So recapping here on
1:09:53
the infield, Nate's got Cal Ripken, Derek Jeter, Chipper
1:09:57
Jones and Lou Gehrig. On my infield, I've got Stan
1:10:01
Mutual, Mike Schmidt, Brooks Robinson and Jackie Robinson.
1:10:06
In Nate's outfield, Joe DiMaggio, Kirby Puckett, Carl
1:10:10
Yastrzemski and my outfield Ted Williams, Roberto Clemente and
1:10:15
Mickey Mantle for Nate's DH, Edgar Martinez for my DH, Tony
1:10:20
Gwynn. Behind the dish, Nate's got
1:10:24
Yadier Molina, I've got Johnny Bench.
1:10:27
And on the bump, Nate's got Bob Gibson to my Sandy Koufax.
1:10:34
That'll do it. I think you should get the dub,
1:10:38
but I, I think you got to take in the again, you got to account
1:10:43
for the age of our listeners and voters, you know?
1:10:51
I mean, what does that say about the younger?
1:10:53
Generation. That's crazy.
1:10:55
Yeah, if I don't care if you're nine years old, if you don't
1:10:59
know Ted Williams, Roberto Clemente or Mickey Mantle, you
1:11:03
need to re evaluate the the adults in your life because
1:11:07
they're clearly not. They're not leading you in the
1:11:10
direction you need to be LED. I'll just say that.
1:11:16
Oh, I'm going to go take a nap, I think.
1:11:19
Enjoy your Sunday. You too guy, enjoy this L that
1:11:24
you're going to catch. It's not justified.
1:11:28
It's not justified, but yeah, enjoy.
1:11:31
Enjoy your Sunday folks and have a great week.
1:11:34
Check out the check out the aforementioned shop.
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I've had some folks asking where they can snag some of these hats
1:11:41
we've been wearing these last few weeks.
1:11:43
You already know. On the shop, grab some jerseys,
1:11:49
grab some teas. Jersey's a pretty fire.
1:11:55
You can see Mama Mama Reyes was rocking one at the game.
1:11:58
I didn't see that. No, I didn't see the picture.
1:12:00
Yep. She was rocking it.
1:12:02
Love that she. Came with a Todd Hilton jersey.
1:12:06
She's like, oh, the Rockies aren't playing.
1:12:07
No, sorry, Ma. She's like, all right, give me
1:12:10
the three O take Jersey. But if the Rockies were playing
1:12:15
three O take staying in the closet.
1:12:17
That would, yeah. Old Toddy.
1:12:19
Hilton. Fair enough, Fair enough.
1:12:21
It's the nod, but that's all right.
1:12:23
By the way, honorable mention for me, Todd Hilton's like like
1:12:26
a personal favorite, but I know he doesn't steal steal the
1:12:29
votes. Any who's you guys are awesome.
1:12:33
Thanks for hanging out and don't go chasing curveballs.
1:12:36
Love you all, and as always, looking forward to talking more
1:12:38
baseball with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.