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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right. You're going to have to do the heavy
- 0:01Speaker 1: lifting on Vision Quest because I don't know if I
- 0:03Speaker 1: fully understand everything that's going on. Me neither. Okay.
- 0:08Speaker 2: I think I got a good grip.
- 0:09Speaker 3: I got something.
- 0:11Speaker 2: I feel like I had some homework to do.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was just like, that'd be the problem
- 0:16Speaker 1: with this. Yeah, the exposition early, I was like, all right,
- 0:21Speaker 1: hold on. What happened now?
- 0:23Speaker 2: Let's just talk about it.
- 0:24Speaker 1: And it didn't help that we didn't watch it. Agatha
- 0:28Speaker 1: all along. Somebody had listed, you need to watch all these.
- 0:32Speaker 1: And I'd watched everything but Agatha all along. And that's okay.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Marvel shouldn't make you have to watch everything. That's your
- 0:38Speaker 1: job as a company. It's got to be a standalone project.
- 0:40Speaker 1: You got to catch me up. Y'all was doing too
- 0:43Speaker 1: much stuff, man. It was a lot going on. It
- 0:45Speaker 1: was too much.
- 0:45Speaker 3: It was too much to keep up with. Too many multiverses.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Too many units.
- 0:48Speaker 1: It was too much. I was tapped out, man. Man,
- 0:51Speaker 1: come on, man. Yeah. We missed part two. I'm sorry.
- 1:01Speaker 3: That's math, man.
- 1:02Speaker 1: I didn't do good in math. I might go back
- 1:04Speaker 1: and watch Agatha all along because I like Catherine Holmes.
- 1:07Speaker 2: I love her, actually. I've heard good things about Agatha.
- 1:10Speaker 1: I've heard good things.
- 1:11Speaker 3: I liked her in Scarlet Witch.
- 1:12Speaker 4: And I might watch it. I might watch it, okay?
- 1:17Speaker 4: But I'm going to have to go back. It's too
- 1:18Speaker 4: much TV. Tony wanted me to watch all these programs.
- 1:21Speaker 4: Watch Carrie.
- 1:22Speaker 1: You know I'm scared. It's not scary. It is. It's not.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Carrie got telekinesis. She got full of blood.
- 1:28Speaker 3: You be watching that with Jean Grey in them.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Jean Grey ain't got no blood. Jean Grey ain't killing
- 1:35Speaker 1: for real.
- 1:35Speaker 3: They didn't show it on camera.
- 1:36Speaker 1: She ain't killing for real.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Carrie is not scary, though.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Carrie got scary in it.
- 1:41Speaker 2: It's just missing the S.
- 1:42Speaker 1: It's not scary.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Is it like Stranger Things?
- 1:44Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:45Speaker 3: It's less scary than Stranger Things.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Oh, really? I mean, she's going to do some damage,
- 1:51Speaker 1: but I feel like Stranger Things was scary.
- 1:53Speaker 3: Because he looked like a monster.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Yeah, Beckham, he was doing a lot.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:57Speaker 2: I ain't finished Stranger Things, but not because it was scary.
- 1:59Speaker 1: The kids were just 25. Carrie is not scared. All right,
- 2:01Speaker 1: I'm going to check it out. They want you to
- 2:04Speaker 1: watch it. I'm going to check it out.
- 2:05Speaker 3: I know you saw them blacks talking to me.
- 2:06Speaker 1: I seen it. I was scrolling past them. I set
- 2:08Speaker 1: it up on purpose. I was scrolling past them. I
- 2:10Speaker 1: was like, keep coming, y'all.
- 2:13Speaker 4: Also, man, it's going to be hard to do shows
- 2:15Speaker 4: that are binging for the podcast.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Well, the thing about Carrie, I finished it in.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Two nights.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Is it eight episodes?
- 2:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:28Speaker 3: I cut it on one night, finished it the next night.
- 2:31Speaker 2: And you wasn't scared?
- 2:33Speaker 3: It's not scary.
- 2:34Speaker 1: But your level of scary.
- 2:35Speaker 2: In mind is different.
- 2:36Speaker 1: I live alone. I be scared. I don't watch scary movies.
- 2:39Speaker 1: I don't like to.
- 2:40Speaker 3: I got to see it at home.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. Oh, man. I like to go to the
- 2:45Speaker 1: movie theater and watch something scary early in the day.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Yeah, when the sun is shining and the birds are chirping.
- 2:50Speaker 1: I don't watch scary movies at night at my house.
- 2:53Speaker 1: It's got to be early. Got to be a better way.
- 2:56Speaker 3: But Gary ain't scary at all.
- 2:57Speaker 1: I'm on it. All right. What up, y'all?
- 2:59Speaker 2: Greg, keep it all in.
- 3:01Speaker 1: What up, y'all?
- 3:01Speaker 2: It's your boy, Kev, on stage.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Tony Baker. Welcome to the Bald Brothers Podcast, where me
- 3:06Speaker 1: and Tony talk about whatever the hell we want to
- 3:08Speaker 1: talk about. Sometimes it's movies, sometimes it's TV, sometimes it's
- 3:13Speaker 1: En Vogue. Is it En Vogue today? Yes.
- 3:15Speaker 4: And sometimes we're giving flowers to En Vogue. Stick around
- 3:18Speaker 4: for the end of the episode. Tony had a great
- 3:19Speaker 4: idea about giving flowers to people we love, and we're
- 3:22Speaker 4: going to start with En Vogue.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:23Speaker 4: We're switching it up today. We started on Vision Quest.
- 3:26Speaker 4: I don't know even why. Why did we start Vision?
- 3:29Speaker 1: Why did we start it? Yeah. Was it your idea
- 3:32Speaker 1: or mine? You. It was mine? Yeah. Okay. Because I
- 3:37Speaker 1: wasn't sure if you was going to watch it because
- 3:38Speaker 1: I know you ain't been rocking with the- I ain't
- 3:40Speaker 1: been rocking with Marvel. But I turned on Vision and
- 3:43Speaker 1: I was like, all right, Tone, I watched two episodes
- 3:46Speaker 1: and I was like, Tone, we should talk about this. Yeah.
- 3:49Speaker 1: We're dropping Mobland publicly. We're not, I'm going to still
- 3:52Speaker 1: be watching it. All right.
- 3:53Speaker 4: Niggas was not watching Mobland like that. It was just
- 3:55Speaker 4: me and Tony talking about it. But we might come
- 3:57Speaker 4: back to it when the drop is over. Oh, Mobland's done.
- 3:59Speaker 4: We're not doing Mobland anymore. It's just too many things
- 4:01Speaker 4: to talk about one day. We might touch on it,
- 4:05Speaker 4: but it's too many things. We got to do the
- 4:06Speaker 4: other episode.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:08Speaker 2: What's the other episode today?
- 4:10Speaker 3: I thought it was, we got the drop.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Jay-Z.
- 4:14Speaker 1: No, was it music? It was music, wasn't it? Were
- 4:16Speaker 1: we talking about Jay-Z?
- 4:18Speaker 2: Wasn't it we want to do a deep dive into Jay-Z?
- 4:19Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, that's perfect, because Jay-Z just did the Super
- 4:24Speaker 1: Bowl announcement. Okay, let's do a deep dive on Jay-Z.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Deep dive on Jay-Z. Yeah.
- 4:28Speaker 2: First, we got to talk about Angel Reese.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Shout out to her. Yeah. She had an amazing game.
- 4:32Speaker 1: 30 points, 16 rebounds.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Watch, you just caught up on the stats.
- 4:35Speaker 3: I just caught up on that.
- 4:36Speaker 1: I never know when the games are going to come on.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Go on ESPN. You over there finding box office numbers.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Go on ESPN and find out.
- 4:42Speaker 3: I didn't know, man.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Game three tomorrow night, Wednesday. You didn't watch the whole game.
- 4:46Speaker 2: I watched the whole game.
- 4:47Speaker 1: You watched the whole game.
- 4:48Speaker 2: I watched the whole game.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Game one. I knew you watched the whole game. Yeah.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Game three tomorrow, 5 Eastern. Game four. It's Saturday at
- 4:59Speaker 1: 10 a.m.
- 5:00Speaker 3: See, that's where they started fumbling.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Yeah, 10 a.m. They're skipping. They're adding the extra day.
- 5:05Speaker 1: And now 10 a.m.? Come on. 10 a.m. what? What
- 5:08Speaker 1: time zone? Pacific.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Pacific.
- 5:11Speaker 3: So now I got to set the clock.
- 5:12Speaker 2: You got to set the clock.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Because they were supposed to be playing in their current arena,
- 5:17Speaker 1: only seats 3,500. So they moved it over to State Farm,
- 5:20Speaker 1: but the Hawks got their.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Season opener that day. Oh, okay.
- 5:24Speaker 4: So they're making them play at 1 p.m., Eastern, 10 Pacific,
- 5:28Speaker 4: 7 in Honolulu, where I'll be.
- 5:30Speaker 3: They should play the games at the same time.
- 5:33Speaker 1: What you mean?
- 5:33Speaker 3: Had the Hawks out there in their game.
- 5:36Speaker 1: How they do the wide, make the two courts go
- 5:39Speaker 1: that way.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Come on, man. Oh, my goodness. Make it half court.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Man, move the Hawks. Move the Hawks right now.
- 5:47Speaker 3: I'm going to say this.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Okay. If you're from Atlanta, don't be offended. I feel
- 5:54Speaker 1: like y'all don't care about the Hawks like that. DC
- 5:57Speaker 1: Young Fly does. He's the only one. DC Young Fly,
- 6:01Speaker 1: when the Hawks finally win, DC Young Fly will earn
- 6:04Speaker 1: every bit.
- 6:05Speaker 3: He is the only Atlanta Hawks fan I know.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Legit.
- 6:12Speaker 3: I can't name one person besides DC Young.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Fly where I'd be like, they a Hawks fan. B.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Lou from out there, he don't ever be passionate about
- 6:21Speaker 1: the Hawks. I heard B. Lou talk about the Hawks
- 6:23Speaker 1: in my life. He talk about the Falcons. Barely.
- 6:26Speaker 2: But he's talked about her.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:28Speaker 2: But he ain't said Atlanta Hawks.
- 6:30Speaker 1: He'd be like, LeBron, LeBron. I know one person that's
- 6:37Speaker 1: a diehard Hawks fan. That's DC Youngblood. The Atlanta Hawks
- 6:41Speaker 1: congratulated the Atlanta dream and put some Hawks flares on
- 6:45Speaker 1: the flyer talking about, we're going to the finals. People
- 6:48Speaker 1: were like, get these Hawks. Who are these? Get these
- 6:50Speaker 1: niggas off the flyer.
- 6:52Speaker 4: The man was in here laying it up. Get these
- 6:54Speaker 4: niggas off. Who are these people? Angel Reese, Ryan Howard,
- 7:00Speaker 4: this nigga and that nigga. And I don't know them.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Like, no disrespect.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Yeah. Trey Young, I didn't recognize. Trey Young gone. Me gone.
- 7:08Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you a starting Hawks player right now
- 7:11Speaker 1: if you gave me $ 1, 000.
- 7:11Speaker 2: I don't know who over there right now.
- 7:13Speaker 4: I couldn't tell. I could name you 12 African-American names.
- 7:16Speaker 4: You wouldn't know if they were Hawks players or hockey players.
- 7:19Speaker 4: I'd be like, yeah, that's Jamal. Let me give you
- 7:21Speaker 4: Atlanta Hawks who's starting roster right now. NBA kickoff is tonight.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Let me see if you recognize any current Hawks player.
- 7:30Speaker 1: So this is starting lineup right here.
- 7:32Speaker 2: This is the just, I don't even know if this
- 7:33Speaker 2: is starting. I'm going to just give you the whole list.
- 7:34Speaker 1: This is the current roster.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Actually, I'm going to do this because I'm going to go.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Let's see.
- 7:38Speaker 4: Box score will probably, ESPN box score will probably have
- 7:41Speaker 4: whoever's supposed to be starting.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Okay. So, sorry, Hawks. But I'm very curious about this.
- 7:48Speaker 2: All right, Hawks. They play tomorrow.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Preseason? No, no.
- 7:55Speaker 2: That's their real game tomorrow.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Oh, snap.
- 7:57Speaker 3: Okay.
- 7:58Speaker 1: The NBA ain't starting tomorrow?
- 7:59Speaker 2: It starts today.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Oh, snap. Okay.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Oh, well, hold on.
- 8:03Speaker 1: They don't have the starting lineup yet. Okay. I'm going
- 8:06Speaker 1: to just name... Okay, I'm going to name these people
- 8:08Speaker 1: until we've even heard of them. All right. I don't
- 8:10Speaker 1: know who's starting, though. This is the current roster. Nikael
- 8:14Speaker 1: Alexander Walker. No. Never heard of him?
- 8:18Speaker 2: I believe I've heard that name.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Devin Carter. No.
- 8:21Speaker 2: Dyson Daniels.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Ray J.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Dennis.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Lou Dort.
- 8:29Speaker 4: I know Lou Dort, he used to play for OKC.
- 8:31Speaker 4: Long braids, they'd say he's a dirty player. His name
- 8:34Speaker 4: is Lou Gintz Dort. I recognize that name.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Zuby Ejiofor. You don't know Zuby Ejiofor. Kingston Flemings. Now what?
- 8:49Speaker 1: Kingston Flemings sounds like you created an NBA team. You
- 8:54Speaker 1: should be on the Kingsman. Kingston Flemings. Is it what?
- 8:58Speaker 1: I don't know. There ain't no pictures. Kingston Flemings do
- 9:02Speaker 1: sound like. Throw some names in there. Kingston. For the Hogs.
- 9:07Speaker 4: I didn't know Ray J was playing for them. Kingston Flemings.
- 9:10Speaker 4: Keyshawn Gilbert. Muhammad Guay.
- 9:14Speaker 1: No. Buddy Heald. Yes. I know Buddy Heald. Buddy Heald,
- 9:19Speaker 1: I know. He got them teeth. I know Buddy Heald.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Buddy Heald, I do know. Jalen Johnson.
- 9:26Speaker 3: That sounds familiar.
- 9:29Speaker 2: They do sound familiar.
- 9:30Speaker 3: My eyes are squinting, so I can't.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Okay. Jock Landale. Sounds like somebody from the Minneapolis Lakers.
- 9:42Speaker 1: CJ McCollum.
- 9:43Speaker 5: Yes.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Okay, I know CJ. Asa Newell.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Onyeka Okongwu. Henry Visar. Aaron Wiggins. No. And Jalen Wilson.
- 10:01Speaker 1: I knew two people for sure in the possible. This
- 10:05Speaker 1: is Spade's hand. I know two in the possible. I'm
- 10:10Speaker 1: getting sad. Kingston Flemings, ladies and gentlemen.
- 10:13Speaker 4: Kingston Flemings is tough, dog. CJ McCollum and Buddy Hilton.
- 10:16Speaker 4: I only didn't even know they were playing.
- 10:18Speaker 1: For the Hawks.
- 10:19Speaker 3: I didn't either.
- 10:19Speaker 4: Actually, CJ McCollum was cooking. I want to say the
- 10:23Speaker 4: Hawks might have made the playoffs last year.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Yeah, they played the Knicks. So they made the play-in. No,
- 10:29Speaker 1: the playoffs.
- 10:30Speaker 3: No, but the play-in. I'm sure they had to do
- 10:32Speaker 3: the play-in to get to the playoffs.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Oh, to get to the playoffs. Well, that I don't know.
- 10:34Speaker 1: And I think they might have won a game, if
- 10:36Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. Because I was in Atlanta and I couldn't,
- 10:40Speaker 1: the Hawks was, I mean, the Knicks was staying at
- 10:42Speaker 1: the Four Seasons.
- 10:43Speaker 2: I couldn't get in because the Knicks were in town.
- 10:45Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, the Hawks, they just don't. And
- 10:47Speaker 1: then the people from Atlanta that just go to the game,
- 10:49Speaker 1: they're just going for.
- 10:50Speaker 3: Photo ops just to do something that night.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Who's your favorite Atlanta Hawk of all time?
- 10:54Speaker 3: Dominique Wilkins.
- 10:55Speaker 1: I don't even think it's, it's not even close. It's
- 10:57Speaker 1: not even close.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Spud Webb is next, but after that.
- 10:59Speaker 3: You got Trey, Trey Young.
- 11:02Speaker 1: And then- I wouldn't even say he's my favorite.
- 11:04Speaker 3: I mean, he's good. He was somebody I paid attention to.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I paid attention to Trey.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Especially when he ended up that one playoff a few
- 11:09Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, he was cooking. I was paying attention
- 11:11Speaker 1: to him.
- 11:11Speaker 2: When he sent the Knicks home.
- 11:13Speaker 3: And the Bulls-Hawks games are usually good. So that's what
- 11:17Speaker 3: I like.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Mookie Blaylock, I remember him.
- 11:18Speaker 5: Who?
- 11:18Speaker 2: Mookie Blaylock?
- 11:19Speaker 1: Yes. I couldn't tell you I like five Hawks players.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Dominique Williams. Dang.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Spud Webb.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Trey Young. Mookie Blaylock.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Joe Johnson played for the Hawks.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Kingston Fleming. Kingston Fleming.
- 11:36Speaker 3: This is top five.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Kingston. Hawks playing.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Hold on, let me look.
- 11:39Speaker 1: There's got to be more than that, Tone. Let me
- 11:41Speaker 1: look up.
- 11:41Speaker 3: Players be Joe Johnson.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Joe Johnson.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm going to do top 10
- 11:46Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks of all time. Dikembe. He played for them too?
- 11:51Speaker 2: Dikembe.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Now we have to do this too now.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Now I know what you're about to say.
- 11:56Speaker 3: Where did the player become a legend?
- 11:58Speaker 4: Yeah, because Dikembe was with the... Because people were moving
- 12:00Speaker 4: around all over the shop.
- 12:01Speaker 2: He was with the Nuggets.
- 12:02Speaker 1: He was a Celtic. Yeah. But nobody remember that shit.
- 12:04Speaker 1: You're absolutely right.
- 12:05Speaker 3: So it's like, where did you make your name?
- 12:08Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.
- 12:09Speaker 1: This is the top 10 Atlanta Hawks of all time.
- 12:11Speaker 1: Dominique Wilkins, Bob Pettit, Who?
- 12:15Speaker 2: He's 1958.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Lou Hudson. Sweet Lou Hudson. Lou Hudson owned
- 12:20Speaker 1: a bricklaying company over on Camden Road. Sounds like some
- 12:23Speaker 1: barbecue sauce.
- 12:24Speaker 3: They put some of that Lou Hudson on there.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Let's get the Lou Hudson going. Lou Hudson sold me
- 12:31Speaker 1: a cutlass with a bad carburetor. Lou Hudson dead when
- 12:35Speaker 1: I see him. I'm shooting him in his big toe.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Joe Johnson. I sold Joe. He was good. Yeah.
- 12:41Speaker 2: He was a great hawk.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 12:42Speaker 2: Dikembe.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. He was a four-time NBA defensive player of the year.
- 12:47Speaker 1: He defined the Hawks defense, so I'll give you the Kimbae. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 12:50Speaker 4: Cliff Hagan, 58. Cliff Hagan called the police on the
- 12:54Speaker 4: black man. Lenny Wilkins.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Yes. I know Lenny. He was a great coach. Yep.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Trey Young. Trey Young. Al Horford. Okay. I know Al. Yeah.
- 13:03Speaker 1: And Pete Maravich. Pete Maravich. Pistol Pete. I don't think
- 13:08Speaker 1: I knew him from the Hawks. I didn't know. I
- 13:09Speaker 1: didn't know he was a Hawk, though.
- 13:11Speaker 2: I thought Pistol Pete.
- 13:12Speaker 1: What was he from?
- 13:13Speaker 2: We all over the place, Tony. This is our podcast.
- 13:15Speaker 2: We can talk about the Hawks.
- 13:16Speaker 1: This is the beauty of the podcast.
- 13:17Speaker 2: The Jazz is where I know Pistol Pete from.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know he was a Hawk like that. Sorry, Atlanta.
- 13:22Speaker 4: I agree with Tony. I think that's probably the least...
- 13:26Speaker 4: That might be the least cared about NBA franchise of
- 13:28Speaker 4: all time.
- 13:29Speaker 1: They don't have a strong fan-based culture for the Atlanta Hawks. No.
- 13:32Speaker 3: It's just not there.
- 13:34Speaker 1: For me to just know all these people from Atlanta
- 13:36Speaker 1: that are from there, that live there, and I only, D.C.
- 13:39Speaker 3: Young Fly, I only want to really hold it down.
- 13:41Speaker 1: He be up in there. Yeah. He be up. You right.
- 13:44Speaker 1: You right.
- 13:45Speaker 4: All right, let's kick it off. We talking Vision Quest. Now,
- 13:48Speaker 4: we need to give y'all sort of a disclaimer. Before
- 13:51Speaker 4: we went live, Tony was like.
- 13:57Speaker 1: I ain't gonna make no phone calls, cause I'm right here.
- 14:00Speaker 1: I don't know, bro. I just be calling my brothers,
- 14:04Speaker 1: saying hello. Just done a shot. She gonna go in
- 14:07Speaker 1: the car and call them from the parking lot. Watch.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Ball brothers, ball brothers. It's crazy.
- 14:12Speaker 3: Ball brothers, ball brothers.
- 14:13Speaker 1: That's all this have.
- 14:17Speaker 3: What if she came in with a ball cap?
- 14:18Speaker 1: Ball brothers, ball brothers.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Brothers, balls.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Cause balls is brothers.
- 14:25Speaker 3: For me.
- 14:27Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
- 14:28Speaker 2: If you in the car and caught Kevin, then let
- 14:30Speaker 2: me tell you what.
- 14:30Speaker 1: She gon' do it. Why?
- 14:32Speaker 3: She gon' go right in that car and call.
- 14:35Speaker 1: I didn't even tell you this, Tone. In my show
- 14:38Speaker 1: in Tampa this past weekend, Grief Sucks, Full Tears.
- 14:43Speaker 2: FaceTime, JoJo, I broke my car. I was like, what?
- 14:50Speaker 1: Full Tears, what?
- 14:51Speaker 2: I think I broke my car.
- 14:53Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Joe, I'm on stage.
- 14:57Speaker 4: Because my phone rang because he's on my favorites. So
- 15:00Speaker 4: even though my stuff is off, Melissa, Zay, Joe, my
- 15:03Speaker 4: mom and dad call, it'll ring. So he calls Melissa
- 15:07Speaker 4: and I get off stage. I'm like, listen, what did
- 15:09Speaker 4: Joe just say? She said, this boy, you know when
- 15:12Speaker 4: you hit the lever and knocks your steering wheel down
- 15:14Speaker 4: to readjust it? He did that, he was like, ah,
- 15:18Speaker 4: my car's.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Steering wheel's down.
- 15:20Speaker 1: So Melissa's like, Joe, the button you hit, hit it again,
- 15:30Speaker 1: pick the steering wheel up. He was like. Oh, God,
- 15:33Speaker 1: thank you. Listen, it was like kids be thinking they grown.
- 15:37Speaker 1: They don't know nothing about nothing. Don't know nothing about life.
- 15:41Speaker 1: He said, I broke the car.
- 15:42Speaker 4: I broke my car. Because he was so nervous. I'm
- 15:57Speaker 4: thinking he got in a car, but I could tell
- 15:58Speaker 4: from his face, like, he wasn't hurt.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm like, what could you have possibly done?
- 16:02Speaker 1: That baby said, I don't, I just, it broke off.
- 16:06Speaker 1: I don't know. It was on my lap. Yeah.
- 16:09Speaker 2: That's funny. It was very funny.
- 16:11Speaker 1: All right. Bye, Melissa. Bye, babe. She gonna call from
- 16:14Speaker 1: the car.
- 16:14Speaker 4: So before we went live, Tony was like, all right, Kev,
- 16:18Speaker 4: I gotta tell you, I don't really understand everything that
- 16:22Speaker 4: happened in So, and I was like, me neither.
- 16:25Speaker 2: So we go figure it out. Where's Jay Freedian? Get
- 16:28Speaker 2: in the comments.
- 16:30Speaker 1: From what I can gather, now, I did miss Agatha
- 16:33Speaker 1: all along. I watched WandaVision. I didn't watch that either.
- 16:36Speaker 4: I love WandaVision. I liked Katherine Hahn. I was kind
- 16:39Speaker 4: of always going to get to Agatha all along.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Yeah. But just, man, there's too many shows on television.
- 16:45Speaker 2: I'm always trying to catch up.
- 16:47Speaker 1: The line is.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Sam Jackson got a new.
- 16:50Speaker 1: He do. Samuel L. He got something coming out.
- 16:54Speaker 3: He got to spin off from the Tulsa King.
- 16:55Speaker 1: I got to check Sam out.
- 16:59Speaker 4: Different world came out. Got to support the blacks. Can't
- 17:01Speaker 4: leave a different word out there by themselves.
- 17:02Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. Is that a drama or
- 17:04Speaker 3: a comedy?
- 17:06Speaker 2: A different world?
- 17:07Speaker 1: I would classify it as a dramedy. I think it's closest...
- 17:11Speaker 1: Comparison is kind of like Insecure. And it leans maybe
- 17:14Speaker 1: a little more comedic. Okay.
- 17:18Speaker 2: But I feel like it's a dramedy.
- 17:19Speaker 1: I saw a clip with Joe Morton and the theme artist. Yeah.
- 17:24Speaker 1: It looked like a drama. And then at the end
- 17:27Speaker 1: when he gave him that callback, that shit was genius. Yeah.
- 17:31Speaker 1: It's a dramedy. Okay.
- 17:32Speaker 4: It's really close to Insecure because they got some serious
- 17:34Speaker 4: stuff that they're dealing with.
- 17:36Speaker 1: You ain't supported the blacks? On different words? Yeah. I
- 17:39Speaker 1: didn't pull up. Pull up. I didn't even see Fresh Prince,
- 17:43Speaker 1: the Bel-Air joint either. You ain't doing no remakes. It
- 17:47Speaker 1: ain't really like a remake in that instance.
- 17:50Speaker 3: I'll do remakes sometimes.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Like if it's a movie that they made into a series,
- 17:55Speaker 1: I would like to pull up like Carrie, for example. No.
- 17:59Speaker 1: That was a movie.
- 18:01Speaker 3: But if it was just a series of a series.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Carrie been remade a billion times. You don't complain about that.
- 18:07Speaker 3: I didn't watch the remakes.
- 18:09Speaker 2: But you don't complain.
- 18:11Speaker 1: Y'all complain about remakes all the time. You didn't complain
- 18:13Speaker 1: about Carrie being remade. Because it's a series.
- 18:16Speaker 2: But didn't they remake the movie like a few years ago?
- 18:20Speaker 1: Probably so.
- 18:21Speaker 3: I think they remade that movie and tried to sequel
- 18:23Speaker 3: it up a few times.
- 18:24Speaker 1: They ran Carrie.
- 18:24Speaker 3: I'd be like, leave her alone, man. Get Carrie out
- 18:27Speaker 3: of here.
- 18:27Speaker 1: Hey, God dog. But with Carrie, if you're going to
- 18:30Speaker 1: make a series, now I know that you have more
- 18:33Speaker 1: to play with on the writing tip. For sure. That's why,
- 18:36Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Like, if you're going to
- 18:37Speaker 1: make it a series, then I'm more likely to be like,
- 18:40Speaker 1: all right. No, no, I feel you.
- 18:41Speaker 2: I feel you. So I pull up to Vision Quest,
- 18:45Speaker 2: and I ain't going to hold you.
- 18:46Speaker 1: The last Marvel show that I even pulled up to
- 18:50Speaker 1: was Nigga Bird and Bucky.
- 18:54Speaker 4: Why do you call him Nigga Bird? Man, he's Nigga Bird, man.
- 18:58Speaker 4: I watched three episodes of that, and I was like.
- 19:00Speaker 4: You didn't finish it? All right, y'all. I just was like, man,
- 19:04Speaker 4: I don't care about this.
- 19:06Speaker 3: You didn't see that fight with the Dora Milaje in
- 19:08Speaker 3: the apartment?
- 19:09Speaker 2: What episode was it? Feels like after episode three.
- 19:12Speaker 1: I can't remember.
- 19:12Speaker 3: But that was a good, just watch that clip.
- 19:16Speaker 1: I can watch the clip. But I mean, no disrespect, She-Hulk. Oh,
- 19:21Speaker 1: that was terrible. Agatha all along. Arrow's white girl. Oh,
- 19:27Speaker 1: that too.
- 19:27Speaker 2: I watched episode one of that. I was like, all right.
- 19:29Speaker 1: You didn't watch Moon Knight? Moon Knight. Hawkeye.
- 19:32Speaker 2: And I like Oscar Isaac.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:35Speaker 2: I just was like, I don't want to.
- 19:38Speaker 1: They be losing me in the storylines. That's what it is.
- 19:41Speaker 1: Moon Knight lost me in the storylines. Secret Invasion lost
- 19:44Speaker 1: me in the storylines.
- 19:45Speaker 2: I didn't even pull that up at all.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Ms. Marvel was corny. I didn't watch that. Also, those things, man,
- 19:54Speaker 1: when I saw the trailer, I was just like, bro,
- 19:57Speaker 1: I'm not.
- 19:58Speaker 4: And they was not making good movies either. Like, at
- 20:01Speaker 4: that time, I was watching Marvel movies. I was disappointed.
- 20:04Speaker 4: The TV shows had not been good to me anyway.
- 20:07Speaker 4: So not only did I not pull up, I didn't
- 20:08Speaker 4: even think twice about it.
- 20:10Speaker 1: And then nobody online was like, nah, Kev. You've got
- 20:13Speaker 1: to see.
- 20:14Speaker 2: Sometimes people pull me back.
- 20:16Speaker 1: Like, on the drop. I watched the first one, but
- 20:17Speaker 1: I was like, it's cool, but I probably won't finish it.
- 20:19Speaker 1: And you were like, nah, Kev. No, man, hang in there, man.
- 20:21Speaker 4: But nobody on the Marvel tip was being like, get
- 20:24Speaker 4: through episode four and it's good. People were just like, nah,
- 20:27Speaker 4: I understand. You know what I'm saying? So Vision, I
- 20:30Speaker 4: didn't have no high hopes.
- 20:32Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to check it out just
- 20:33Speaker 1: because I knew we just finished Lanterns and the drop
- 20:38Speaker 1: is coming to an end. You only got, shoot, two
- 20:41Speaker 1: more episodes after this. So at Mobland, our audience wasn't
- 20:44Speaker 1: watching like that. So I'm always like, okay, what are
- 20:47Speaker 1: people talking about? And I've seen people talking about Vision Quest.
- 20:49Speaker 1: So from what I gather... And Jay Friesian, I don't
- 20:52Speaker 1: see him in here. Vision at the end of... No,
- 21:00Speaker 1: it was at the... When did he get remade? Was
- 21:03Speaker 1: it at the end of... In the Watchmen.
- 21:06Speaker 2: The movie, Doctor Strange.
- 21:10Speaker 3: No, at the end of.
- 21:11Speaker 1: WandaVision. WandaVision. Okay.
- 21:13Speaker 2: So she makes white Vision.
- 21:15Speaker 1: Yes. And this is not Vision that died. And this
- 21:19Speaker 1: is also not Westview Vision. Yeah. This is a new creation.
- 21:25Speaker 1: And from what I gather, this vision is like, I
- 21:29Speaker 1: ain't old boy. And I've got Jarvis's AI. I got
- 21:34Speaker 1: kind of like my head of ops. Yeah.
- 21:38Speaker 2: I got the girl from Schitt's Creek.
- 21:40Speaker 1: Is that Edie? Yep. She's weapons systems and recreation. Okay.
- 21:45Speaker 2: I've got Edie.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Oh, no. Friday.
- 21:48Speaker 3: Edith is the one that came crashing through the ceiling.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Okay, that's Schitt's Creek Girl. Okay. Friday, I'm forgetting.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Friday, they kind of say that this could represent the ego,
- 22:00Speaker 1: the id, and the super ego. Oh, okay. In his mind. Okay.
- 22:04Speaker 3: Super ego, whichever one.
- 22:07Speaker 1: The id is Edith. Yeah. Yeah. The middle man, I
- 22:13Speaker 1: forget whether ego or super ego is your middle man
- 22:18Speaker 1: or woman.
- 22:20Speaker 2: I think ego.
- 22:21Speaker 3: Whoever the middle man is, is more along the lines
- 22:24Speaker 3: of Friday.
- 22:25Speaker 2: Okay.
- 22:25Speaker 1: And Jarvis is the one that's trying to keep everything together.
- 22:29Speaker 2: More grounded.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Super ego.
- 22:31Speaker 2: So wouldn't Ultron be super ego?
- 22:33Speaker 3: So it's the id, ego, super ego.
- 22:37Speaker 1: So the super ego is the one that's trying to
- 22:40Speaker 1: keep everything... together.
- 22:43Speaker 2: So that's Jarvis.
- 22:44Speaker 1: Yes. Okay. Yeah. So you got him going and then
- 22:48Speaker 1: you got, and oh, Jay Friesen says sword created white
- 22:51Speaker 1: vision with his body. I do remember that. Okay. And
- 22:53Speaker 1: it was like, we need that weapon. I don't care
- 22:55Speaker 1: what y'all talking about. We ain't got no mind stone.
- 22:57Speaker 1: And then we have Ultron. Now I am an Ultron defender. Yeah.
- 23:02Speaker 1: Age of Ultron, the movie. A lot of people do
- 23:04Speaker 1: not like Age of Ultron. I liked it. I love
- 23:08Speaker 1: Age of Ultron. I'm also a James Spader fan.
- 23:11Speaker 3: I love James Spader.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Since the 80s. I mean, James Spader's just... What's his
- 23:18Speaker 1: TV show where he's the criminal?
- 23:20Speaker 3: Oh, Blacklist.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Blacklist, he's great. Boston Legal, he was great. Boston Legal.
- 23:25Speaker 1: On The Office, Robert California, he's great as that, which
- 23:29Speaker 1: is a funny... I like when people don't change their
- 23:31Speaker 1: character at all, but it's now funny.
- 23:35Speaker 4: But as Ultron, he's great. So Vision requires them in
- 23:40Speaker 4: his mind space to don human avatars.
- 23:44Speaker 1: So... Vision is existing in the world as Sherwood Ellis. Right.
- 23:48Speaker 2: He's just working a regular job.
- 23:49Speaker 3: Regular job.
- 23:50Speaker 2: Trying to figure out how to be a human.
- 23:51Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:51Speaker 4: He goes to charge. He's got his USB-C plugged in.
- 23:54Speaker 4: Taking notes. Goes to bed in the closet.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Yeah. He's like, good night, y'all.
- 23:59Speaker 3: Good night, y'all.
- 24:00Speaker 1: He's sleeping. It's in his mind.
- 24:04Speaker 3: I'm home, y'all. Give me notes on how I presented today.
- 24:08Speaker 1: He's basically in Westview again, but of his own mind. Yeah.
- 24:12Speaker 1: So he's created these friends. And Ultron's in jail. Yes.
- 24:18Speaker 1: In the thing.
- 24:19Speaker 2: In the attic or whatever.
- 24:20Speaker 1: In the attic. Yeah.
- 24:21Speaker 2: And I love this, like.
- 24:23Speaker 1: Ultron is doing stuff when it's really just Vision. Yeah.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Like, he makes it seem like, like, he going up
- 24:31Speaker 2: there yelling at Vision.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Vision like, nigga, this is you. This is all you, yo. Me.
- 24:38Speaker 1: You don't need me. You really didn't want me. But Vision,
- 24:42Speaker 1: Ultron is playing along. Yeah.
- 24:44Speaker 4: You know, I leaked the address. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
- 24:49Speaker 2: But it's like, come on, man.
- 24:52Speaker 1: You know?
- 24:53Speaker 4: So they're all like one big AI family. And Vision
- 24:57Speaker 4: is basically the PC. He's the iPhone.
- 24:59Speaker 2: Right. And these are the apps that are helping him work.
- 25:02Speaker 1: So....
- 25:06Speaker 4: So now where they kind of lost me a little
- 25:09Speaker 4: bit and where I was like, all right, now what's
- 25:11Speaker 4: going on?
- 25:12Speaker 1: Right. We cut to this white boy. Yes. Tommy. Now,
- 25:17Speaker 1: from my simple mind, the children that Wanda created are
- 25:21Speaker 1: not real. Right.
- 25:23Speaker 4: And neither was Vision. So in her chaos magic, she
- 25:26Speaker 4: created Vision and in sword game, the actual body. And
- 25:30Speaker 4: she kind of imparted. The chaos magic. It's a little murky,
- 25:34Speaker 4: but she imparted the chaos magic. Sword had the body.
- 25:38Speaker 4: Vision is born anew. He don't know who he is
- 25:41Speaker 4: all over again. He over here soul searching.
- 25:44Speaker 1: From what I gather, and they kind of said this
- 25:46Speaker 1: in the show, Tommy has... He was like a random.
- 25:52Speaker 4: Kid in London that I guess Wanda somehow imprinted her
- 25:59Speaker 4: Westview child's mind into an actual child who was just
- 26:04Speaker 4: in the orphanage.
- 26:05Speaker 1: Yeah. And you can't just put stuff in the orphanage, kid, man.
- 26:09Speaker 1: The witch is a menace, though. She's just, she's morally corrupt, man.
- 26:17Speaker 1: You can't just be doing, and the other one, Billy,
- 26:22Speaker 1: was he put into a dead kid?
- 26:25Speaker 2: Hold on, they're yelling at us.
- 26:26Speaker 3: He was put into a dead kid.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Okay, hold on. Look at the chat. Okay, let me
- 26:31Speaker 2: back up.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Regent!
- 26:37Speaker 2: Okay.
- 26:37Speaker 1: It wasn't Wanda. It was her son, Billy. Okay.
- 26:40Speaker 2: You got to watch Agatha.
- 26:44Speaker 3: Okay, you should have watched Agatha.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Girl!
- 26:52Speaker 2: No, Isaiah's.
- 26:54Speaker 1: No, no, he's not.
- 26:55Speaker 2: He's Isaiah's. Isaiah's probably 28.
- 26:58Speaker 1: So Billy did it.
- 26:59Speaker 2: 28-32 or 30-32?
- 27:01Speaker 1: 30-32.
- 27:02Speaker 3: So how was Billy able to do it?
- 27:03Speaker 2: 30-32, Joe's 33-32.
- 27:06Speaker 1: My vision is purely sword.
- 27:08Speaker 2: It was Billy.
- 27:09Speaker 1: Jay Phrygian, I'm going to call you on Instagram phone.
- 27:13Speaker 1: Stop talking about Vision Quest until you watch Agatha. No!
- 27:17Speaker 1: That's what they want us to do. No!
- 27:20Speaker 4: You stop talking about Vision Quest until you watch Agatha.
- 27:24Speaker 1: We jumping in. I ain't watching it. And I'm going
- 27:27Speaker 1: to talk about it blind. They say it's not optional.
- 27:31Speaker 1: It is. So if Billy has that magic, too, how
- 27:34Speaker 1: is Billy still alive?
- 27:36Speaker 2: I'm calling Jay Phrygian.
- 27:38Speaker 1: Jay Phrygian, get your Instagram Phrygian. P8.
- 27:44Speaker 3: You say you calling for real?
- 27:45Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm calling right now, nigga. Give us the downloads.
- 27:50Speaker 1: What's your Instagram name is, J. Free Gin? Both sons'
- 27:53Speaker 1: minds were both roaming around the atmosphere. Billy got placed
- 27:56Speaker 1: into a boy that just died. Then Billy used his
- 27:59Speaker 1: powers to put Tommy into this guy. Okay. Free Gin,
- 28:03Speaker 1: what's your Instagram name? It ain't coming up. Stupid meta is.
- 28:08Speaker 3: Billy got the same powers as Wanda.
- 28:11Speaker 1: What's your name is?
- 28:14Speaker 3: So where's Billy at now?
- 28:16Speaker 2: Billy dead.
- 28:17Speaker 1: It is J.
- 28:18Speaker 2: Free Gin.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
- 28:19Speaker 3: They say you don't have to watch Agatha to understand Tommy.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Okay.
- 28:32Speaker 2: It's saying you got no profile.
- 28:34Speaker 1: Billy used his magic to put himself into another kid's body,
- 28:37Speaker 1: and then during the course of Agatha all along, he
- 28:39Speaker 1: put his brother Thomas in another body as well.
- 28:42Speaker 2: Here we go. Oh, I'm not following you, my bad.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Billy Powell. Okay. Okay. He had real powers. They were
- 28:51Speaker 1: fake in that universe, but exist in other universes. The
- 28:54Speaker 1: powers work everywhere. So... I got Jay Friedan.
- 28:58Speaker 3: So will Tommy have powers?
- 29:00Speaker 1: We gonna get the nerds on the horn, Tommy. Nerd
- 29:03Speaker 1: us up! Box office nerd here. Jay Friedan, welcome to
- 29:07Speaker 1: the show. Hello, hello. All right, Jay Friedan, me and
- 29:11Speaker 1: Tony ain't watching no damn actors all along. Catch us up.
- 29:15Speaker 1: Catch us up. We not watching it. All right, so essentially.
- 29:20Speaker 2: because I can do it right.
- 29:21Speaker 4: Yeah, we need a 90 second why this white boy
- 29:24Speaker 4: got that powers.
- 29:26Speaker 5: Agatha all along shows you that when Wanda's hex went down,
- 29:30Speaker 5: essentially Billy's soul, because he also has chaos magic, inhabited
- 29:37Speaker 5: a kid who died, who is also an Billy, I think.
- 29:42Speaker 5: Then he has his own adventure in Agatha all.
- 29:44Speaker 2: Along because he's looking for his brother because he's like,
- 29:46Speaker 2: if it happened to me, it should have happened to
- 29:48Speaker 2: my brother.
- 29:48Speaker 5: He got the same reality bending stuff as Wanda. So
- 29:53Speaker 5: then he ends up doing the same thing helping.
- 29:58Speaker 1: His brother's soul find.
- 29:59Speaker 2: Somewhere to go.
- 30:00Speaker 5: And that's why the white boy was saying, hey, I
- 30:02Speaker 5: almost drowned.
- 30:03Speaker 1: And then now I have memories that I don't remember. Oh,
- 30:06Speaker 1: so when he was breaking out of the jail bus,
- 30:10Speaker 1: was he using realities? Or was that... No, so Billy's reality,
- 30:16Speaker 1: Tommy was....
- 30:19Speaker 2: Tommy was who?
- 30:20Speaker 1: You know how flash can vibrate to do stuff? Oh, okay, yeah,
- 30:24Speaker 1: I remember that. So he was just moving fast and
- 30:27Speaker 1: he shook.
- 30:27Speaker 2: The bolts loose.
- 30:29Speaker 3: Wait, Tommy just has speed.
- 30:31Speaker 2: He has super speed, but it's super speed.
- 30:33Speaker 1: He's like Quicksilver. Oh, okay. Billy is dead.
- 30:42Speaker 5: Billy came back in Agatha all along. That's why the
- 30:45Speaker 5: child was young. She was like, y'all should watch Agatha.
- 30:46Speaker 5: You need to hit your emergency awesome for the overview.
- 30:50Speaker 1: You know what?
- 30:50Speaker 2: I could do that. So wait, where's Billy at right now?
- 30:55Speaker 1: Billy.
- 30:56Speaker 5: probably searching for wherever Tommy at. So where that ended
- 31:00Speaker 5: was Billy, you know, reveals he got powers, he remembered
- 31:03Speaker 5: who he is, and then he's like, I gotta go, like,
- 31:06Speaker 5: find my brother.
- 31:07Speaker 1: Oh, that just hasn't happened. Okay, so now we're basically,
- 31:11Speaker 1: we know where his brother is, he don't know where
- 31:13Speaker 1: his brother is.
- 31:15Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, we've, the way they describe this is Vision
- 31:18Speaker 5: Quest is three in a trilogy.
- 31:20Speaker 1: WandaVision, Agatha all along, and then now Vision Quest. Wait,
- 31:24Speaker 1: when did they tell us that? Did you know that?
- 31:26Speaker 1: I mean, I knew All Along was next, but I
- 31:28Speaker 1: didn't know it was about to be a trilogy. What
- 31:29Speaker 1: did they tell us? That it was a trilogy.
- 31:32Speaker 3: I was watching like a YouTube video.
- 31:38Speaker 2: Okay.
- 31:38Speaker 1: Okay. But also, so Tommy, since he got put into
- 31:43Speaker 1: a person that was living, he's at war with himself
- 31:49Speaker 1: and this other voice in his mind?
- 31:53Speaker 5: He was living, but remember what he said to the police?
- 31:55Speaker 5: He was like, we were playing in the.
- 31:57Speaker 1: Pool, and I was drowning. So remember, when you drown,
- 32:00Speaker 1: you kind of die a little bit. Yeah.
- 32:02Speaker 2: I didn't know why he was saying that.
- 32:04Speaker 3: But did he ever fully die?
- 32:08Speaker 1: He said he.
- 32:09Speaker 5: Felt like lightning hit him, and now he remembers lightning
- 32:11Speaker 5: not hit him.
- 32:11Speaker 2: So I think the problem is that he didn't.
- 32:13Speaker 1: Fully die yet.
- 32:14Speaker 5: It's like, Wanda Kid Tommy came in his mind while
- 32:19Speaker 5: he's drowning, but then he came back from drownings, but
- 32:24Speaker 5: now he, like, you know, schizophrenia, but you know what
- 32:28Speaker 5: I'm saying.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Wow. Got it. Okay.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Probably should watch that all along.
- 32:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:33Speaker 3: We should watch it all along. We should watch it
- 32:36Speaker 3: all along.
- 32:36Speaker 4: Well, Jay Friedgen, if you watch this podcast and we
- 32:38Speaker 4: need a nerd out, keep your Instagram handy.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Yes, sir. I will be your go-to. We need black
- 32:45Speaker 1: nerds on the horn because Marvel didn't, they didn't pull
- 32:48Speaker 1: me in and I like Catherine Hahn.
- 32:50Speaker 2: I might, I might pull up on that all along.
- 32:51Speaker 2: This is all be talking about all the time.
- 32:54Speaker 1: You need to be on the horn because I got
- 32:56Speaker 1: to finish One Piece.
- 32:57Speaker 2: I'm so close.
- 32:58Speaker 1: I'm laser focused. That's crazy. I still never started it.
- 33:02Speaker 1: All right, Jay Friesian, we'll call you back later if
- 33:03Speaker 1: we get confused. You can watch 8,000 episodes of One Piece. 1,100. Tony,
- 33:10Speaker 1: I'm about to watch episodes in Japanese with English subtitles
- 33:14Speaker 1: just so I can catch up. I'm so close. I'm
- 33:17Speaker 1: at like 11, 13. They're on hiatus right now, so
- 33:20Speaker 1: there's no new episodes coming out. Once I catch up
- 33:23Speaker 1: to 1180, I'm going to tell people, don't mention this
- 33:26Speaker 1: show to me no more. This is crazy. I am
- 33:28Speaker 1: caught up. It's good.
- 33:31Speaker 2: It's good.
- 33:33Speaker 1: The problem is, it's good. Like, the bad part about
- 33:37Speaker 1: it is, it takes so long. But the things you
- 33:42Speaker 1: don't think matter, they end up mattering. And when they
- 33:46Speaker 1: get into their storytelling bag, you forget you were watching animation.
- 33:51Speaker 1: I cried harder on one piece than any piece of
- 33:54Speaker 1: media has ever made me feel.
- 33:56Speaker 2: That brother, they got a brother storyline.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Tone.
- 34:02Speaker 3: Tone.
- 34:03Speaker 2: It was embarrassing. I cried.
- 34:08Speaker 1: Isn't that 30 minutes a piece? It's not even 30.
- 34:10Speaker 1: It's like 23 minutes and like two to five minutes
- 34:16Speaker 1: of that is the theme song and recap.
- 34:20Speaker 2: And credits. So it's really about.
- 34:22Speaker 1: 15 minutes of actual new stuff.
- 34:30Speaker 4: Like 15 minutes. But when it's good, man, it has
- 34:35Speaker 4: no rival. But see, it ain't even like that.
- 34:37Speaker 1: It's like, okay, this is how it works.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Say you, Tony Baker, want to be the best comedian
- 34:44Speaker 2: in the world.
- 34:45Speaker 1: In the world.
- 34:45Speaker 2: That is your goal.
- 34:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 34:47Speaker 4: But along this journey, you got to pick up a crew.
- 34:49Speaker 4: And you start by yourself. It is just Tony Baker.
- 34:52Speaker 4: We fall in love with you. And then you're like,
- 34:54Speaker 4: I need a navigator for my ship. So you pick
- 34:56Speaker 4: up me.
- 34:57Speaker 1: Yeah. All right? You're going to find my story.
- 35:00Speaker 4: So one arc is going to be the story of Kev,
- 35:02Speaker 4: how I become a navigator, what's my backstory, how I
- 35:05Speaker 4: became where I am. And more than likely, you're going
- 35:07Speaker 4: to beat up somebody to be able to get me
- 35:09Speaker 4: on your team. We on the road. We need a doctor.
- 35:13Speaker 4: We meet to hear. This nigga finna be our doctor.
- 35:17Speaker 4: What the hell going on with him?
- 35:18Speaker 2: His backstory.
- 35:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 35:20Speaker 2: All to hear stuff. Beat up that nigga person.
- 35:22Speaker 1: He's on with us. Now we on the ship. Right.
- 35:25Speaker 1: All right. Now we need a chef. Angel.
- 35:28Speaker 2: Hey, I'll be your chef. Gotta kill this nigga first.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 35:31Speaker 4: While we fighting this nigga, we gonna find out about Angel.
- 35:34Speaker 4: Next thing you know, you're in 150 episodes.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 35:37Speaker 1: Right?
- 35:38Speaker 2: But we gotta keep going.
- 35:40Speaker 4: Now we gotta pick up A list, her story, this,
- 35:45Speaker 4: I mean, and now you got 12 people. So sometimes
- 35:48Speaker 4: like the person you pick up, you might just learn
- 35:50Speaker 4: why he's a chef right now. Then later on, episode 800.
- 35:56Speaker 1: Now we go into your backstory when you was a child. Dang,
- 36:00Speaker 1: 116 episodes of your child. And then you mix in
- 36:03Speaker 1: the villains. What that nigga backstory is. I was actually
- 36:07Speaker 1: a child soldier in Ghana.
- 36:09Speaker 4: And next thing you know, Tone, you don't realize you
- 36:13Speaker 4: were a thousand episodes in because it's all new information.
- 36:18Speaker 4: And then they're going to call back and you're like, oh,
- 36:20Speaker 4: that nigga was never a child.
- 36:22Speaker 1: I'm actually a man disguised as a child. And I'm
- 36:26Speaker 1: super powerful.
- 36:27Speaker 4: And then also in order to be this villain, you
- 36:29Speaker 4: got to get these powers. They're going to show you training. Like,
- 36:31Speaker 4: Luffy needs to be the villain. You got to learn
- 36:33Speaker 4: this power. And then go 40 episodes of him.
- 36:37Speaker 1: I can't figure it out.
- 36:39Speaker 4: So once he does it, it feels earned. Ain't no
- 36:43Speaker 4: quick way to it. When he learns how to control
- 36:45Speaker 4: his power, you have watched him. So that's when it
- 36:50Speaker 4: sometimes drags. You've watched him do it, but once he
- 36:54Speaker 4: uses it, you're like, okay.
- 36:56Speaker 1: So I describe it as like, of all the Chicago teams,
- 37:00Speaker 1: what are you the most of a fan of? Bears.
- 37:03Speaker 1: The Bears, okay. One piece is like, If you love
- 37:07Speaker 1: the Bears and you die hard and you're watching the
- 37:10Speaker 1: draft and you're learning about who they drafted and you're
- 37:13Speaker 1: watching the offseason, you're kind of paying attention to the injuries,
- 37:16Speaker 1: how the starting quarterback thing is working, like who's who.
- 37:19Speaker 2: Okay, Caleb doing good, the backup doing good. Who's our
- 37:22Speaker 2: free agent?
- 37:22Speaker 1: Let me research this linebacker we signed. Oh, we got
- 37:24Speaker 1: this new coach. Okay, I'm watching the preseason games. That's
- 37:28Speaker 1: what one piece is. Guys, you really like it and
- 37:30Speaker 1: you just– you will, they gonna. Who was this new
- 37:33Speaker 1: running back we did? That's what it is.
- 37:35Speaker 3: He went to this college, he went to this high school.
- 37:37Speaker 2: That's what one piece.
- 37:38Speaker 4: And then you might pay attention when you lose, who
- 37:41Speaker 4: was the, DJ Moore was a good receiver.
- 37:44Speaker 1: You might pay attention to DJ Moore. He's on the
- 37:46Speaker 1: bills now.
- 37:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 37:47Speaker 1: You might pay.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Attention to DJ Moore.
- 37:48Speaker 1: And then DJ Moore comes back in the playoffs and
- 37:51Speaker 1: he's in the press conference and Caleb Williams actually stole
- 37:54Speaker 1: my girlfriend and I'm gonna die. And then you're like, oh, oh, oh, oh.
- 37:59Speaker 1: And now they gotta play each other and it's overtime.
- 38:03Speaker 1: And then Caleb's throwing that touchdown pass from the playoffs last,
- 38:06Speaker 1: when you thought you were down and out. Cause that's
- 38:07Speaker 1: the one piece, them niggas be looking dead. Like it's
- 38:10Speaker 1: over for you. And just how Caleb scrambles and just
- 38:13Speaker 1: tosses it up and nigga catches it. That's one piece,
- 38:16Speaker 1: them niggas that scored the touchdown and you like, and
- 38:19Speaker 1: because you done watched Caleb Williams in college, in draft
- 38:22Speaker 1: day and he was hurt, the hamstring, they made fun
- 38:24Speaker 1: of him and he's back and the Bears are good
- 38:26Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson. you all in. But if you can't
- 38:30Speaker 1: get all in, I understand. Because they ask it a lot,
- 38:33Speaker 1: but I be on them planes, Tone. What you be
- 38:36Speaker 1: watching it on? I got my little iPad on Crunchyroll.
- 38:39Speaker 1: I watched a lot on Netflix.
- 38:40Speaker 2: It was really good.
- 38:41Speaker 1: What's on Netflix?
- 38:42Speaker 2: A whole bunch is on Netflix. Large pieces. Then you
- 38:46Speaker 2: got to get the Crunchyroll. You had a good time with.
- 38:48Speaker 1: The 600 episodes, didn't you? You got to come over here,
- 38:54Speaker 1: but it remains 500. You got to come over to Crunchyroll.
- 38:57Speaker 1: You all.
- 38:58Speaker 3: Crunchyroll is going to get that money.
- 39:00Speaker 1: All rolls lead back to Crunchyroll.
- 39:01Speaker 2: You having a good time? See you back at the role, huh?
- 39:06Speaker 1: You enjoyed the little 450-episode sampler. Netflix is what I
- 39:10Speaker 1: wanted you to do. But it all come back to Crunchyroll, baby.
- 39:13Speaker 1: Right back to me. It's Thanos. All right.
- 39:18Speaker 4: So let's go back to Vision Quest. We're definitely not
- 39:21Speaker 4: watching it now. Jay Friesen gave us all we need
- 39:24Speaker 4: to know.
- 39:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 39:25Speaker 4: So let me tell you what I like about Vision Quest.
- 39:28Speaker 4: Because this nigga is not Vision. he is not Vision.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 39:32Speaker 2: When he killed somebody, I.
- 39:34Speaker 1: Sat up straight. Because you looking like Vision. Yeah. And
- 39:38Speaker 1: Vision was all virtuous and stuff. Sure. He's picking up doors, hammers.
- 39:42Speaker 3: He like, I'm worthy. He's a good guy.
- 39:46Speaker 4: This dude is like, stop calling me him. And because
- 39:50Speaker 4: I'm not him, let me.
- 39:51Speaker 2: Prove to you.
- 39:52Speaker 1: Y'all shot me? Blood. Yeah. I realize I'm not even
- 39:56Speaker 1: used to seeing blood in Marvel stuff. Yeah, because they tame.
- 39:59Speaker 2: They tame.
- 40:01Speaker 1: And I didn't expect no R.
- 40:02Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't even say Vision Quest is R-rated.
- 40:04Speaker 1: Right. But I didn't expect no blood. They was like, no,
- 40:07Speaker 1: he killing people.
- 40:09Speaker 4: When they shot the shop owner and Vision went to
- 40:12Speaker 4: work and they had the rate of the guys, like,
- 40:14Speaker 4: why did you send.
- 40:14Speaker 1: Us in here? That's you. Yeah.
- 40:18Speaker 3: That's what be blowing my mind, dog.
- 40:21Speaker 1: Like, the soldiers that go in, I'm like, nobody was like,
- 40:27Speaker 1: fuck this shit.
- 40:29Speaker 3: I'm fuck this shit, McGee.
- 40:31Speaker 1: Sure. If I see five of y'all go in and
- 40:34Speaker 1: get worked over, I'm not going to be like, nah,
- 40:38Speaker 1: six times a charm. No, I'm coming back out.
- 40:43Speaker 3: I'm like, why you send us in there on that bullshit?
- 40:47Speaker 1: And don't try to pull your little gun out and
- 40:49Speaker 1: kill me because, nah, I got guns too, nigga. He
- 40:52Speaker 1: done killed 20 people, man. Get us out of here.
- 40:55Speaker 3: And he gonna kill that dude that shot this lady.
- 40:57Speaker 1: And now you gonna kill that dude. Shot him in
- 41:00Speaker 1: the head. Why you kill him? We doing what you said.
- 41:02Speaker 1: So you just sacrificed 30 soldiers in black for research?
- 41:07Speaker 4: These people got families. You done killed them this close
- 41:10Speaker 4: to Halloween. They can't go to horror nights.
- 41:12Speaker 1: They wanted to go see what Cedars was talking about
- 41:14Speaker 1: down at Universal Studios? They kept going until they doomed.
- 41:18Speaker 1: You see everybody getting worked over.
- 41:21Speaker 3: Let me go in as well. Maybe something will be
- 41:24Speaker 3: different for me.
- 41:26Speaker 1: Even though we all get the same training. Maybe I'm
- 41:29Speaker 1: the one.
- 41:29Speaker 3: Maybe the eighth soldier in is going to really make
- 41:33Speaker 3: a difference.
- 41:35Speaker 1: And don't be pulling that. I'm not built for that
- 41:39Speaker 1: type of domain villain leadership.
- 41:42Speaker 3: I'm not the henchman that's just going to let.
- 41:44Speaker 1: You get over on me. I can't imagine you being
- 41:46Speaker 1: a henchman. They would kill you quick. You'd be like,
- 41:49Speaker 1: you failed me. I did fail. But you ain't about
- 41:52Speaker 1: to shoot me right here, right now. I got a
- 41:53Speaker 1: gun too, bitch. Nigga, what? I failed.
- 41:57Speaker 3: You sent me on a suicide mission.
- 41:59Speaker 1: We all got our asses kicked while you sat back
- 42:01Speaker 1: in the Jeep and watched. You was in the Jeep
- 42:03Speaker 1: with the lady who didn't even know where the white
- 42:05Speaker 1: lady is. Whoever's on comms. Yeah, not so fast. You
- 42:10Speaker 1: didn't expect that, Paladin.
- 42:12Speaker 3: Fire me or shut the hell up. But you ain't
- 42:15Speaker 3: gonna kill me.
- 42:18Speaker 1: I'm not about to sit here and let you just
- 42:20Speaker 1: fuck me because I failed.
- 42:21Speaker 3: I got shows, man. Ten of us went in there.
- 42:25Speaker 1: Obviously, we are human, regular people. Right. You don't even
- 42:29Speaker 1: got powers. You don't have the little EMG, EMP taste thing.
- 42:34Speaker 1: All you got is a smart mouth and a weird voice.
- 42:38Speaker 1: That's all you got back here. And you sat there
- 42:41Speaker 1: and watched us go to our doom. We getting mowed
- 42:43Speaker 1: down over here. You know what, man? What do? Episode two.
- 42:49Speaker 2: This whole thing is over.
- 42:51Speaker 1: Done. You dead. I'm paladin now. This is just a
- 42:54Speaker 1: moniker anybody can be. I'm the paladin. We're going to
- 42:57Speaker 1: figure out a way to get this dude without soldiers
- 43:00Speaker 1: going in. Vision killed 40 people and flew out the top.
- 43:08Speaker 1: And he was like, okay, now we know what's going on.
- 43:12Speaker 1: White lady died for nothing. She died for nothing. She
- 43:15Speaker 1: didn't even taste the Sunday roast. She's still right there
- 43:18Speaker 1: in front of the death. What you need to do.
- 43:21Speaker 3: Back.
- 43:24Speaker 2: I knew she was gone too.
- 43:25Speaker 1: Oh, for sure, dog. He just was too nice. I said, oh,
- 43:28Speaker 1: you invited him over to Sunday dinner and stuff. He said, oh,
- 43:31Speaker 1: we got leftovers. I said, man, who was killing her?
- 43:34Speaker 1: Never connect with the main character. Y'all got to realize
- 43:39Speaker 1: this main character's out here in the real world. Y'all
- 43:43Speaker 1: better quit connecting to main characters.
- 43:47Speaker 3: Don't be having no tender moments with nobody in your life.
- 43:50Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Don't connect with nobody.
- 43:54Speaker 4: You're just a casualty and the man who killed you
- 43:57Speaker 4: is also dead.
- 43:58Speaker 1: Dead. He thinks he did something good. Now he's dead.
- 44:02Speaker 1: He's like, man, what did I do?
- 44:05Speaker 4: What did the sniper do wrong? You wanted to get
- 44:10Speaker 4: vision attention. The only person you can do is kill her.
- 44:13Speaker 1: Yeah. He thought he did a great job. He was like,
- 44:18Speaker 1: he polished off his little sniper set. He was like,
- 44:23Speaker 1: He went back in there. So you see what I did? Dammit.
- 44:31Speaker 1: And he killed that man and just kept, don't kill
- 44:34Speaker 1: me and just keep it moving.
- 44:35Speaker 3: Oh, you're not going to kill me and just keep
- 44:37Speaker 3: it moving.
- 44:38Speaker 2: So anyway, what time is the quarter?
- 44:40Speaker 1: You ain't just going to walk off after you shot
- 44:43Speaker 1: me in the head. You better say some stuff.
- 44:48Speaker 3: Remember how Manboy died in Snowfall?
- 44:51Speaker 1: Oh, the best. Manboy had the greatest death ever. It
- 44:55Speaker 1: was like, see, your punk ass could never measure up. Pow, pow, pow, pow.
- 45:02Speaker 1: And that's what it was all about, wasn't it? You
- 45:05Speaker 1: wanted to run. Pow, pow, pow, pow. Yeah. You motherfucker.
- 45:12Speaker 1: You wasn't hard enough for this. You wasn't built for it. Pow, pow.
- 45:18Speaker 3: You told me to snipe, I sniped. You gonna let
- 45:21Speaker 3: me get my shit on.
- 45:22Speaker 2: Bro, Man Boy was like, I got all kind.
- 45:25Speaker 1: Of things to say.
- 45:27Speaker 3: He died for 15 minutes, man.
- 45:31Speaker 1: Bad boy. That's how I'm going out. Nice and slow. Oh,
- 45:36Speaker 1: for sure.
- 45:36Speaker 2: That's what I thought you'd do.
- 45:38Speaker 1: Shoot me. Guess what? They closing in on you. They
- 45:41Speaker 1: closing in on you. They closing in. You can kill me.
- 45:45Speaker 2: I ain't going to be dead.
- 45:46Speaker 1: I said, dang. You still going to fail.
- 45:52Speaker 2: That's all you got?
- 45:53Speaker 1: Bullets? You just going to destroy my internal organs like that?
- 45:57Speaker 1: So I'm just going to bleed out. I'm going to
- 46:02Speaker 1: be struggling to get some shit. No, I ain't dead yet.
- 46:04Speaker 1: Hold on.
- 46:06Speaker 3: Got blood coming up, so it's hard for me to
- 46:08Speaker 3: talk at the same.
- 46:10Speaker 1: Time. Turn me over so I can spit out. Ah, thanks.
- 46:17Speaker 1: Your mystical fail. Thanks. Thanks is crazy. Do you remember
- 46:25Speaker 1: in Game of Thrones when Rhaenyra had to kill the
- 46:28Speaker 1: dude and she missed? She tried to cut his head
- 46:31Speaker 1: off and she hit the shoulder. I don't remember that.
- 46:33Speaker 1: You don't remember?
- 46:34Speaker 2: It was like, you got to be queen. You got
- 46:36Speaker 2: to cut his head off.
- 46:37Speaker 1: He was like, come on.
- 46:37Speaker 4: The dude was about to die. Like, man, just do
- 46:39Speaker 4: it for me, man. She didn't really have a sword, man.
- 46:42Speaker 4: She's going to hack me up. And they was like, nah, man.
- 46:45Speaker 4: Rainier got to do it. She was snotting out her nose.
- 46:48Speaker 4: You don't remember that?
- 46:50Speaker 1: That's on this latest season? Yes. Before she took the throne,
- 46:53Speaker 1: she had to kill that man. And she was like
- 46:55Speaker 1: throwing up and stuff.
- 46:56Speaker 2: She was nervous. And she missed his head.
- 46:58Speaker 1: And Tom... It was Otto. Oh, my God. Hold on.
- 47:06Speaker 1: She killed Otto and she wasn't ready.
- 47:08Speaker 2: I got to finish this season.
- 47:11Speaker 1: Oh, man. I'm not in my right thing. Commercials, man. Premium, man.
- 47:15Speaker 1: Let me get to my writing. Get the good background going.
- 47:18Speaker 1: All right. Shoot. In here.
- 47:23Speaker 2: Killed Otto.
- 47:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 47:29Speaker 2: She wasn't ready, Tom.
- 47:41Speaker 1: He's like, oh man, come on. Just get it over with. Man,
- 47:56Speaker 1: hurry the hell up. That's what I would be like.
- 47:59Speaker 1: If I know I'm dying, man, just hurry the hell up.
- 48:03Speaker 1: Shoot me and me first. She told him she's not ready. Like,
- 48:13Speaker 1: just shut the hell up, dog. You know? You weird.
- 48:17Speaker 1: You do this all the time. And you can't stab him.
- 48:20Speaker 1: You got to cut his head off. Really?
- 48:22Speaker 3: It's got to be hard cutting.
- 48:24Speaker 1: Somebody's head off. Spare me from being hacked to death.
- 48:32Speaker 1: Spare me. Spare me.
- 48:34Speaker 3: I respect that. Don't hack me up, man.
- 48:38Speaker 1: One. She like, damn it. She ain't never killed nobody.
- 48:49Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough, man.
- 48:50Speaker 1: I mean, I'm familiar with a sword, but come on, man.
- 48:53Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I seen one on TV.
- 48:55Speaker 1: You know, Kingsguard.
- 48:58Speaker 2: Kingswood and all.
- 49:00Speaker 1: You didn't see this? I don't remember this. What episode
- 49:04Speaker 1: is this? I'm only like maybe... You ain't caught up?
- 49:08Speaker 3: No, I'm not caught up. I started this season. I
- 49:11Speaker 3: think I'm only like.
- 49:12Speaker 2: Two or three episodes in. All right, we'll get to it.
- 49:22Speaker 2: He's trying to help her.
- 49:27Speaker 1: No, they didn't. Oh, shit.
- 49:36Speaker 3: So he had to get hacked up. It took us several,
- 49:40Speaker 3: several chops.
- 49:41Speaker 1: Several chops. Oh, that's the worst. He hit him in
- 49:44Speaker 1: the shoulder blades, man.
- 49:46Speaker 3: That's the worst, dog.
- 49:47Speaker 1: Was he crying? He's like, ah! If you're going to
- 49:51Speaker 1: execute me, man, you got to have a winning record, man.
- 49:55Speaker 1: You can't be new. If I'm going to be executed, well, wait,
- 49:58Speaker 1: how long you been on the job?
- 49:59Speaker 3: It's my first day.
- 50:00Speaker 1: Nah, man. Nah. You're Krista Pike now. Y'all done put
- 50:04Speaker 1: the lethal injection in me. She really.
- 50:07Speaker 3: It was like, is that all you got?
- 50:11Speaker 1: She was bad boy.
- 50:13Speaker 3: She's still alive.
- 50:15Speaker 1: She's in jail regular now. They tried her twice. Put
- 50:19Speaker 1: the injection back in there. She woke up in the hospital.
- 50:23Speaker 3: What happened? Where am I? What year is it? You
- 50:31Speaker 3: on death row.
- 50:32Speaker 1: We tried to execute you. I should have got a
- 50:35Speaker 1: last meal after all. That's crazy.
- 50:39Speaker 4: Y'all can't just put me back in regular jail now.
- 50:43Speaker 4: I deserve something.
- 50:45Speaker 1: You had the last meal, they executed you, and you
- 50:49Speaker 1: wake up, coma. What is this? Imagine that, Dan. No,
- 50:56Speaker 1: we don't.
- 50:56Speaker 2: Actually, you got some paperwork to sign. It didn't go.
- 51:00Speaker 1: I can't even fathom. going through this.
- 51:04Speaker 2: You've already accepted death.
- 51:05Speaker 1: You was like, yo, I'm dying tomorrow at 2 p.m.
- 51:09Speaker 1: Pacific Standard Time. That's in your mind.
- 51:13Speaker 2: Wednesday at 2 p.m.
- 51:14Speaker 1: She declined her final meal. She didn't even eat? No,
- 51:18Speaker 1: she was just like, and then, that's one thing I'm
- 51:21Speaker 1: not going to do. I'm getting that final meal. I
- 51:25Speaker 1: want waffles, pancakes, crispy edges, split, french toast, maximum, a
- 51:30Speaker 1: jar of peanut butter, crunchy, And a nice water.
- 51:35Speaker 3: And I'm finishing all of it.
- 51:36Speaker 2: You ain't even been having a soda for your last meal?
- 51:39Speaker 1: No, I don't love soda. I never did. Juice? Your
- 51:45Speaker 1: last meal, you drinking water? Yeah.
- 51:48Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 51:49Speaker 1: I'm not passionate about any drink except for water. It's
- 51:55Speaker 1: your last meal. You don't want a milkshake.
- 51:57Speaker 3: We had them milkshakes.
- 51:58Speaker 1: Now, that shake, that's a different conversation. It's your last thing.
- 52:01Speaker 1: You're drinking your drink. You can't have water for your
- 52:03Speaker 1: last meal, Tom. That's crazy. I'm getting it because I
- 52:06Speaker 1: got to wash down the peanut butter and the fresh
- 52:08Speaker 1: toast and the waffles. I can't wash it down with
- 52:11Speaker 1: a shake. That's going to be my execution right there.
- 52:15Speaker 1: He died before we could execute him. He tried to
- 52:18Speaker 1: wash his waffles and pancakes down with a shake.
- 52:22Speaker 3: He dead, y'all. That's a way to go out, though.
- 52:26Speaker 3: That's a great death.
- 52:27Speaker 1: Popeye's biscuit did it to me. Just some Popeye's biscuits
- 52:31Speaker 1: with the milkshake wash now. He gone, y'all. He gone.
- 52:36Speaker 1: He gone, Tony. He gone. Cause of death, biscuit and shake.
- 52:43Speaker 3: I might do pizza as well. There you go. From Chicago.
- 52:46Speaker 1: Bean crust?
- 52:47Speaker 2: Bean crust, for sure. Yeah, tavern style. You know how
- 52:50Speaker 2: we do.
- 52:50Speaker 3: Here's the thing about Chicago, man. We was never calling
- 52:53Speaker 3: it that.
- 52:54Speaker 2: Tavern style?
- 52:55Speaker 1: We never said that. It was just pizza to us.
- 52:59Speaker 1: It was either pizza or it was deep dish.
- 53:01Speaker 4: So wait, do the Chicago people don't like the assumption
- 53:05Speaker 4: that they eat deep dish pizza?
- 53:07Speaker 1: I've noticed in a lot of conversations. Yeah, because they
- 53:09Speaker 1: act like that's all we ate living in Chicago. They
- 53:12Speaker 1: act like deep dish. No, deep dish was a luxury.
- 53:16Speaker 2: Because we come as tourists.
- 53:17Speaker 1: We're graduating tonight. We're going to Lou Malnati. Woo, deep dish.
- 53:23Speaker 1: D-Dish was a moment. You can't just be eating that
- 53:26Speaker 1: all the time.
- 53:27Speaker 2: It's too much. It's too much. It's way, way too much.
- 53:31Speaker 1: 90% of the time, we're getting regular pizza.
- 53:36Speaker 3: I'd say even 95.
- 53:37Speaker 1: 95. I remember the first time I had D-Dish, I
- 53:40Speaker 1: was just like, what the hell is this shit?
- 53:43Speaker 3: Why the sauce on the top?
- 53:44Speaker 1: I was confused.
- 53:45Speaker 3: Why the sauce on the top? I was looking around.
- 53:49Speaker 3: What is this? That sauce on the top blew my
- 53:54Speaker 3: ass off.
- 53:54Speaker 1: No, that is crazy, though. When I first went to D'Ordano's,
- 53:57Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell is that? What's up?
- 54:00Speaker 1: All right. Where's the rest of the pizza?
- 54:02Speaker 3: I'm used to pizza, cutting squares, cheese melted.
- 54:06Speaker 1: Sauce underneath the cheese. Yeah.
- 54:09Speaker 2: The sauce on top.
- 54:09Speaker 1: I saw the sauce on top. I was like, what's this?
- 54:12Speaker 3: What's this?
- 54:12Speaker 1: Spaghetti? This pizza's naked, man. I was confused.
- 54:17Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot, too.
- 54:19Speaker 1: But then when I had it with the mixture of
- 54:20Speaker 1: that crust, I was like, they own something.
- 54:24Speaker 2: It's a heavy thing.
- 54:25Speaker 4: But if you ask me, no funny Chicago stuff, I
- 54:29Speaker 4: don't have to have deep dish ever again.
- 54:31Speaker 1: Okay.
- 54:31Speaker 2: Because the regular.
- 54:32Speaker 4: I don't dislike it, but it's like having Thanksgiving dinner.
- 54:36Speaker 1: Yeah. Like... I don't really need that much. That's like
- 54:41Speaker 1: handheld lasagna, like the level of depth to it.
- 54:44Speaker 4: And I'm like, man, that's like one slice. And I'm like,
- 54:47Speaker 4: all right, I can't. Like, I like thin pizza. I
- 54:50Speaker 4: could just go.
- 54:52Speaker 3: To town on the thin. One large just for me.
- 54:55Speaker 2: Tony, I ordered two weeks ago on the road.
- 54:58Speaker 1: I thought Greg and Josh were in their rooms.
- 55:01Speaker 2: I ordered a whole pizza.
- 55:02Speaker 1: Did you finish? No.
- 55:05Speaker 2: I ordered wings. Ordered potato skins. Yeah. I had a
- 55:08Speaker 2: can of Dr. Pepper and a bottle of Sprite.
- 55:11Speaker 1: You went in. I was naked. And then Josh and
- 55:15Speaker 1: Greg were at the thing. I was like, who are
- 55:16Speaker 1: you eating with? I was like, it's just me, y'all.
- 55:20Speaker 3: So wait, you had pizza, potato wedges, wings, Dr.
- 55:24Speaker 1: Pepper, and Sprite.
- 55:25Speaker 2: Did you eat both sodas?
- 55:31Speaker 1: I was Kevin McAllister, man. I don't even know why
- 55:35Speaker 1: I did that.
- 55:36Speaker 3: It was like you woke up rich.
- 55:38Speaker 1: And out of your parents' house, and you was just like,
- 55:41Speaker 1: I'm getting everything. I can do what I want.
- 55:44Speaker 4: I was like, Kevin, you don't even be drinking soda
- 55:47Speaker 4: like that. I got used to, but now I'm like,
- 55:50Speaker 4: them calories are too easily wasted.
- 55:52Speaker 1: For sure. But once I'm off the bandwagon, I got
- 55:54Speaker 1: a heroin needle in here. I'm sniffing coke. Smoking weed.
- 55:57Speaker 1: What's up, Tony? No. I had a great show, man.
- 56:02Speaker 1: What's wrong, Kev? Nothing, man. Woo! Yes!
- 56:06Speaker 2: What you catching? Pizza sauce on.
- 56:09Speaker 1: Woo! Yeah, grief sucks, man. Sauce on your collarbone. You
- 56:16Speaker 1: know those movies with the coked out guys always in
- 56:18Speaker 1: the robe and drawers? That's you that used coked out
- 56:21Speaker 1: on the pizza. You got sauce right here on your nipples.
- 56:24Speaker 1: That's what y'all need to do to create the next
- 56:27Speaker 1: best screenplay. Woo! Y'all want some of this?
- 56:32Speaker 3: Nah, nah.
- 56:33Speaker 1: We good, Kev. We good. I was killing that pizza.
- 56:37Speaker 1: I ate a good amount, though.
- 56:39Speaker 2: I didn't even bother.
- 56:40Speaker 1: What was the toppings?
- 56:41Speaker 2: Supreme. I love I got onions going, peppers, little black olives.
- 56:47Speaker 1: I only eat olives. I love black olives on pizza.
- 56:51Speaker 1: Olives on pizza, they know their role. Any other time
- 56:55Speaker 1: olives want to be David Ruffin, when you get in
- 56:57Speaker 1: with the Supreme, you as always.
- 56:59Speaker 4: You blue, you not doing too much. The flavor is muted.
- 57:03Speaker 4: The green olives, the olive bar, too much olive. It's
- 57:07Speaker 4: the flavor too forward.
- 57:09Speaker 2: It is sour.
- 57:10Speaker 1: Black olives, like, hey man, I'm just here to support
- 57:13Speaker 1: the other peppers and vegetables. I know I'm just a
- 57:16Speaker 1: little flavor hint. You got the sauce. Yeah, I'm the
- 57:21Speaker 1: base at most, man.
- 57:23Speaker 2: I'm just driving the van.
- 57:24Speaker 1: I'm cool.
- 57:24Speaker 2: I'm helping with the merch.
- 57:26Speaker 1: Lead singer?
- 57:27Speaker 2: I could never be me. I'm Black Olive.
- 57:29Speaker 1: I'm selling t-shirts in the back. I'm selling t-shirts.
- 57:31Speaker 4: I'm just cool, man. I make sure the green room's safe, man.
- 57:33Speaker 4: I don't even want no women. That's all I like
- 57:37Speaker 4: about olives. Alyssa can do the pitted, the bar.
- 57:41Speaker 2: I'd be like, man, these are disgusting.
- 57:44Speaker 1: Olives are a lot.
- 57:45Speaker 2: Olives are disgusting.
- 57:47Speaker 1: Disgusting unless they know they roll on the Supreme Court.
- 57:50Speaker 3: I'll throw them in the pizza in a minute.
- 57:52Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm getting pizza this weekend because I got to
- 57:54Speaker 1: go to Chicago for my father's celebration of life. So
- 57:58Speaker 1: I'm going to go out there. I'll get that Thursday.
- 58:01Speaker 1: I'm going to get pizza.
- 58:03Speaker 2: Get pizza, Tom.
- 58:03Speaker 1: I'm going to get pizza.
- 58:04Speaker 3: I'll probably have it Friday. I don't know if I'm
- 58:06Speaker 3: going to have it.
- 58:06Speaker 1: Probably Thursday because we're watching the Bears Thursday. This is
- 58:09Speaker 1: what I like about me and you. This trip, you've
- 58:13Speaker 1: been thinking about that pizza for 12 business days.
- 58:15Speaker 3: I've already mapped it out.
- 58:16Speaker 1: You can see yourself in front of the TV watching
- 58:20Speaker 1: the Bears. The pizza is in hand. It's 12 business
- 58:23Speaker 1: days away. I'll be like, okay, where am I going? Hawaii?
- 58:27Speaker 1: Next Saturday, I'll probably go by that one place that
- 58:30Speaker 1: got the cheeseburger. It's called Cheeseburger. They got a pulled
- 58:32Speaker 1: pork thing. That's probably going to be my Saturday. When
- 58:35Speaker 1: I get in Wednesday, there's the soul food restaurant I've
- 58:37Speaker 1: been checking in.
- 58:38Speaker 3: Food is my main plan.
- 58:41Speaker 1: I'm in the restaurant in my mind. Every time. When
- 58:45Speaker 1: I go to.
- 58:46Speaker 2: Chicago, I'm like, okay, boom. I want a hot dog.
- 58:51Speaker 1: I'ma get that, I'll probably get some tavern-style, just sausage
- 58:54Speaker 1: and cheese. Okay, I'm going maple and ash, that's Friday.
- 58:57Speaker 4: Matter of fact, I'm skipping lunch for that, because.
- 58:59Speaker 1: I- You gotta know. They got this pasta sauce, they got, oh, that's.
- 59:05Speaker 2: Gonna be great.
- 59:06Speaker 1: That's why I hate going to cities where my food
- 59:09Speaker 1: situation is, not solid. Yeah, for sure. I don't know
- 59:13Speaker 1: what they got. I hate that feeling. There's nothing better
- 59:16Speaker 1: to me than going to a city that I know
- 59:19Speaker 1: has good food.
- 59:20Speaker 4: The restaurants that I love are open. I know they're open.
- 59:24Speaker 4: I've got my reservation.
- 59:26Speaker 1: I'm just like, I can't wait. I'm getting everything. I'm
- 59:30Speaker 1: going to Flower Child at 2 p.m. on Saturday.
- 59:34Speaker 4: This reminds me, one of my favorite Tony Baker stories,
- 59:37Speaker 4: we was in New York doing the Ball Brothers. Tony
- 59:39Speaker 4: was going to this place, vegan place that had this.
- 59:42Speaker 1: He's food. He's food. Me and Josh and Tahir and B. Lou, Greg, like, oh, yeah,
- 59:48Speaker 1: we'll come with you. All right, listen, y'all. No way.
- 59:52Speaker 4: We all walking together, laughing, talking. Yeah, man, we going here.
- 59:57Speaker 4: He has some 15 minutes.
- 59:58Speaker 1: Tony just turns around. Hey, man, y'all got to come.
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: Because I don't want to hear it if y'all don't
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: like the vegan food. He's not joking or smiling. Hey,
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: y'all got to come. We're like, what, Tony? We coming.
- 1:00:10Speaker 4: Nah, man, because I've been looking forward to these biscuits
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: over at Peace Food. If y'all not going to like it, man,
- 1:00:15Speaker 4: then just leave me alone. Leave it to me by myself.
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: We've been to this restaurant with you. We like it.
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: All right, then, because as soon as somebody says something about.
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: It, man, I don't want to hear it, man.
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: And B.
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: Lou, you always be ordering something you be wasting, man.
- 1:00:31Speaker 4: If you ain't going to eat it, man, just shut
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: up about it. Y'all don't got to come over here
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: and eat it with me. Y'all don't have to come
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: over here and eat it with me because I ain't
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: asked y'all to do all that. So just eat it
- 1:00:41Speaker 4: in hush or just don't come.
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: I was dead serious, though.
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: I don't want to hear shit from y'all. Y'all ain't
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: feeling this. I don't even want to hear it. You
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: didn't have to come. Go get your chicken wings and
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: shut the hell up. You sound like Black Dynamite. I
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: ain't even got to look. Shut the hell up, Euphoria.
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: I know that. I ain't even got to look.
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: She curled back. She was like, So when you walk.
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: In there, you're just like, man, these niggas say something
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: about these.
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: Because, man.
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: Why are you talking about it? People just be annoying
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: about vegan food. Man, it tastes like, what's in it? Man,
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: I don't want to hear shit about shit.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: You don't have to go. Go to your greasy spoon.
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: Leave me the hell alone.
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: I know what I'm going for and I enjoy it.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: Oh, God. I didn't even want to hear it. And
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: we went. It was good. We had a great time.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: We've been there like three times. I could see it
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: was the first time. We was out talking, what's the place?
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: We'll go with you. Hey, man, if y'all don't eat it,
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: then just don't come. We asked you. Oh, man. It
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: was funny, bro. It was funny. All right, let's finish
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: up with Vision Quest. Vision was kind of... So Vision
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: goes in there. They set the trap for him to
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: save that boy. They leave the door cracked.
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: He did it on... I mean, he... I think Vision
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: was just bored. I was just like, that was a trap.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: Ultron basically said, man, come on, bro. You ain't doing
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: nothing over here. Yeah. They gonna come find you. Let's
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: just speed it forward. And I get that.
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: You got the lady killed.
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: It ain't your son. Let's just do something, man. It's boring.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: It's boring. That's all Ultron was like. Man, we ain't
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: cause no chaos. I've been in this attic with all
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: this random stuff in here. Man, let's get it cracking. Yeah.
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: And I think Vision secretly wanted it. Like, you want
- 1:02:57Speaker 4: to give in to your... You don't have to have Ultron.
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: Yeah. If you don't have Ultron, you're not doing that.
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: So Vision really wants to experience that part, which is
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: an interesting thing about the human psyche. Yeah.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: Sometimes we do want to give in to our darkest desire.
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: Sometimes we know it's pleasure. We shouldn't do it.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: Sometimes we're unlocking and allowing the Ultron to lead us,
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: and we know Ultron is wrong.
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: We're like, what you mean? No, I shouldn't be doing that.
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: I guess I got to go.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: Shouldn't be doing that. Yeah. I'm going to do it,
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: I guess. We shouldn't be doing this. That's some of
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: the best sex of all time. We shouldn't be doing
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: this sex is, let me tell you something. People can
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: act holier than thou and high horse. We shouldn't be
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: doing this sex is some of the best sex of rap.
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: Once you get the panties off, like, man, we shouldn't
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: be doing this. With the lift up. We shouldn't be
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: doing this. We shouldn't be doing this. It'd be the best. Oh, stop, stop.
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: What are we doing? What are we doing? I go
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: to work. I go to work. We shouldn't be doing this.
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: We shouldn't be.
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: Doing this sex.
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's the best, man. Are we really doing this?
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: What you mean? This is crazy. It is. Thrust.
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: Thrust.
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: Thrust. And y'all know I ain't lying, either. Oh, yeah, man.
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: We should be doing this. We should be doing this here. Right.
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: You know, we.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: The kids, they awake. They might come in here for
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: a kiss. I don't slid in.
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: My parents are in there.
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: Oh, damn.
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: Fuck your parents. Somebody might see us in the car.
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: Oh, dear. Damn, man. Let a truck driver drive past.
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: We at work.
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: We in the freezer.
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: I know where we at. Yeah, Dairy Queen in the
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: deep freezer. I feel a blizzard on the way. Oh,
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: that is the best, man. Oh, God, dog. We should
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: be doing this. You know, a little threat of danger, visibility. Yes.
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: What if somebody comes? What if they come? It is.
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: What if I come? I remember I tried to use
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: that because I busted off quick one time.
- 1:05:53Speaker 3: She got on top of me, man. I exploded too quick.
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: I was like, we don't need to be doing this.
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: I had no reason to say it, dog.
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: We absolutely could have been doing this.
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: She told me off too quick, dog. I was like, man,
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: we don't need to be doing this. I was depleted.
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: She was just like, all right.
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: We should be doing this. Also, I can't do this. 35,
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: 45 minutes.
- 1:06:30Speaker 3: She was bouncing on me tough.
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: We'll need to be doing this. We could have absolutely
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: been doing that. She didn't give me any chance to
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: get my feet together. She was bouncing. It's crazy. Oh,
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: she was bouncing. Sometimes you can't even calibrate. Oh, sorry, sorry. Sorry, sorry. Sorry, sorry.
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: I wasn't ready. My shoes are still on. Because you
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: know how sometimes women just get up there and they
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: just kind of grind. Yeah, yeah. She will need to
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: be doing this. She smashed me. I didn't do nothing.
- 1:07:29Speaker 3: She smashed me, dog. She smashed me up tough.
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: The whole process, I'm just laying there. She put the
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: condom on me. She tried to be cute and put
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: it on with her mouth. She did something with it.
- 1:07:48Speaker 3: I'm still trying to hang in there. She got it
- 1:07:51Speaker 3: on there. I'll ride on.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: We'll need to be doing this. She had to know.
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: She had to. She had to know, man. You go
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: soft immediately.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: Once you're done, you're like, I'm nothing.
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: I said, we'll need to be doing this.
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: If you're still watching me, I'm sorry. I never got revenge.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: You can't always get revenge. Some L's are yours to take, man.
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: That's what I love about marriage. You can get your revenge.
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: You can get your revenge in marriage.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: That's my bad. Yeah. I got you. I got you
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: on Thursday, baby girl. Just give me a day in
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: the afternoon. You know me. You know me. I'm good.
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: I'm good for it. But right now, I think I
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: got nothing. We had seven wonderful seasons. This game just
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: wasn't it. I caused the safety. I threw three interceptions
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: and fumbled twice. Come on, you know I'm better than this.
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: We got Super Bowl rings. I did not have my
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: best stuff tonight. You know, we're going to go in
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: and look at the film, you know, see what I
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: can improve on.
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: That's why I messed up.
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: When you pulled the condom, I was- I should have
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: pulled back.
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: I kept going. And then, you know, but hey, hey.
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: So Tony, when you said we should be doing this-
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: What did you really mean? I mean, I expired my
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: whole clip. I had nothing left in the chamber. She
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: broke me off. She bounced hard. And then I fired off.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: Next question.
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: Did you ever get revenge? I got cut from the team.
- 1:09:47Speaker 3: I got cut from the team.
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: That was my one and only game, y'all. I look
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: forward to greener pastures with different teams going forward. What
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: did Bill Belichick say? The Patriots got smashed. He kept saying,
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: we're on to Cleveland. Whatever the team was, he just
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: kept answering that question. What do you think about we're
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: on to Cleveland? Your quarterback threw me and we're on
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: to Cleveland, man.
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: The girl was who we thought she was.
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: And I let her off the hook. Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs?
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: I busted off. She threw three bounces on me. Playoffs?
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: We talking about practice, man. Not the game. She did
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: three bounces and I busted off, man. Man, I was
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: out of here, dog. Oh, God. Okay. Okay.
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: Man, forget Vision.
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: We done with that.
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: We ain't.
- 1:10:48Speaker 4: Go to Emergency Awesome if you want the true breakdown.
- 1:10:51Speaker 4: This is much funnier than anything Vision could have done.
- 1:10:53Speaker 4: We'll be back next week to talk about this. Now,
- 1:10:57Speaker 4: the drop, let's just touch on that quickly.
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: Episode six.
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: Is it six or seven?
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: It's six. Because I went to download a new episode.
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, because they only got eight episodes.
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: They only got eight episodes.
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: So episode six. Episode six. We coming off with a
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: family reveal of the family drama. Yeah. So we got
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: that bullshit out the way. And now we back on
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: the streets and the record company. Yes. The white lady,
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: her name is escaping me. I forget her name.
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: She got her, Jim?
- 1:11:33Speaker 3: The white label head.
- 1:11:35Speaker 4: She got her job back, whatever her name is. These
- 1:11:38Speaker 4: two songs, Ambitions of a Writer and Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Ain't nobody.
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: She got her job back. Now they got an album.
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: Lamar believes he is the sole producer of this album.
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: These people are like, what the hell are you talking about, man?
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: We getting multiple producers in here. You ain't got no
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: track record. You got nothing going.
- 1:12:06Speaker 3: Which, I will say this though, since this is set
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: in like, what, 91?
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hip hop. Early on in hip hop,
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: a lot of albums weren't doing multiple producers. No.
- 1:12:20Speaker 3: They were sticking with one producer.
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: No. And then, so, of course, Lamar's going to be thinking, yo,
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: I'll do the whole album. Yep. Because that's how it
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: was back then. Now, eventually, after Illmatic on up, that's
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: when people started pulling their mad producers. So he's just like, yeah, nah.
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: And they were like, man, hell nah.
- 1:12:41Speaker 3: You know what you mean?
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: Hey!
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: At this point in time, Lamar, he's in a creative drought.
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: Yeah. So he can't make no beats. Artillery gave him
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: the real. Yeah.
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: He was like, man.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: Well, he went in there and played them beats for
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: them people. They was like, oh, brother, this guy stinks.
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: They was just sitting in that studio like, they was like, man,
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: watch out, bro.
- 1:13:07Speaker 4: I'm not trying to hear none of that. He was like,
- 1:13:10Speaker 4: can we get the girls out of here? Artelli was like,
- 1:13:12Speaker 4: get the girls out of here. This is the whole point.
- 1:13:15Speaker 4: The police trying to kill me every episode, man.
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: No. Get the girls out of here. Are you crazy?
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: He was like, bro, nah. They wasn't feeling nothing. He
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: gave his vector presentation on why he should do the album.
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: They let him do his whole talk. They was like, Hey, man,
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: multiple producers. What the hell you talking about? See, the
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: thing is, it's about my mom. They're like, your mom?
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: R2 is like, nigga, what about my mom? I ain't
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: got no pictures either. Lamar was just like, well, that
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: was my trauma. I'm sick of Lamar, man. You think
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: it's all about him? Go make a beat tape. Leave
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: us the fuck alone. He pissing off the entire audience.
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: He is.
- 1:13:58Speaker 2: Which is great writing and great acting.
- 1:14:00Speaker 5: For sure.
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: But it is hard to, people be like, man, nah, man,
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: kill him. Just shoot him. I just want him to
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: stop being so full of himself. Bro, James said it
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: in the beginning. He said, yo, y'all, he is arrogant. Yeah.
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: Y'all just think because he's weird and all that stuff,
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: then that dude is arrogant.
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: And it's the truth, man. It is.
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: If you have autism or whatever, Asperger's, you are arrogant.
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: All about him. All about him with wack beats. Andy
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: was like, man. That was so funny to me. Oh, man.
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: They put them beats on. It was track after track.
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: They had 40 ounces.
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: It was like, man. It's bullshit, cut.
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: Cut, man.
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: Cut this shit off, man.
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: Cut it off, man.
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: Damn, he had to sit there.
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: Imagine.
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: It's like a comedian bombing on stage.
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: Man, man, dating in L.A., right?
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: Give it up for these ladies, man.
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: Man, what's up with tonight?
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: He bombed. Yeah.
- 1:15:13Speaker 4: What it feels like is like early Game of Thrones,
- 1:15:16Speaker 4: if you hated Joffrey, but Joffrey is on that screen.
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: Like you hated Joffrey, but Joffrey wasn't on TV like that.
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't hate him like that. No, no, no, no.
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: I'm just saying like.
- 1:15:29Speaker 4: A character you are supposed to dislike, but he is
- 1:15:32Speaker 4: on the show. He probably the second main character after Gale,
- 1:15:38Speaker 4: after Wanda's character.
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: He got third billing.
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: Does he?
- 1:15:40Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Wanda, Lee, and then him.
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: I didn't think about Lee.
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: He got third billing.
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: I feel like he'd be getting more screen time than Lee.
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: He got more screen time than.
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: Lee, for sure. But Lee, Isaiah is a bigger actor.
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: For sure. But it'd be like the Wanda and Lamar show,
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: and people would be in the comments like, bro, I
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: hate him. Yeah. I hate him. It's tough. I feel
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: bad for the actor. But he's like, bro, that's the character.
- 1:16:02Speaker 3: He's playing the character.
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: He's playing the character. I got nothing bad to say
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: about the actor playing him. He's playing his role well.
- 1:16:08Speaker 3: It's just the character we ain't fucking with.
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: No, no. And I get it.
- 1:16:11Speaker 4: Because if you had any sort of spectrum learning disability
- 1:16:17Speaker 4: in 91, there's not even language for that.
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: No. You just annoying.
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: You just don't.
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: Understand your surrounding right there's not like oh he got
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: he's a you know on the spectrum he don't know
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: hey man your brother annoying man that's why he got
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: sucked out by trig the only the only time i
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: knew anything about the word spectrum was dr spectrum in
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: the comic books other than that spectrum what I feel
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: like I've learned a lot about this all in the
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: last 10 years. Yeah.
- 1:16:51Speaker 2: Because of the internet.
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: But 91? Oh, my God. Man, you weird. Weird. That's it. Slow. Special.
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: The R word we don't say.
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: You special ed.
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: That was it.
- 1:17:04Speaker 4: Something wrong with you or crazy or nervous. It was all,
- 1:17:08Speaker 4: there's no diagnosis. It's just like, man, he's moody.
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: You moody. But there ain't no diagnosis. Moody?
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: Oh, hell yeah. Moody people, man.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: Watch out, y'all. Yeah.
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: If your mood different every time I see you.
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: I'll be writing people off. I get you.
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: Like sometimes I see you and you don't want to
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: dap it up.
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: It's over with. You were mad at your own friends
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: for going to a restaurant with you, and we didn't
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: even say nothing yet.
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: And these are people you call friends. We travel with you.
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: Going to a restaurant we had already been to, laughing
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: and joking.
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: You were like, you the moody.
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: The whole time, I'm the mood. I just wish I
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: was in your brain. Just like, yeah, y'all.
- 1:17:58Speaker 4: See, man, they probably not going to like the biscuits.
- 1:18:00Speaker 4: As soon as somebody says something, I'm about to lose it, man.
- 1:18:02Speaker 4: Because I'm not going to enjoy my vegan stuff. I've
- 1:18:04Speaker 4: been looking forward to this.
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: It might have been more B. Lou then. Had to be. Because... Josh,
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: me and Josh usually go eat together. Greg is always
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: trying to be on the healthiest side of life. For sure.
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: You be good. I don't complain. You don't complain. You
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: be like, oh, okay. And then you're keeping everything positive,
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: even if you don't like it.
- 1:18:24Speaker 4: If I don't like it, I'm going to my room
- 1:18:26Speaker 4: and ordering pizza. I already done tasted a cat. I
- 1:18:28Speaker 4: just want to spend time with my friends. I ain't
- 1:18:30Speaker 4: got to eat this. I'm going to eat a couple bites.
- 1:18:32Speaker 4: But in my mind, I got a turkey sub and
- 1:18:34Speaker 4: a large pizza on the way. Y'all don't even know
- 1:18:37Speaker 4: what I be eating. You ordered the food as you
- 1:18:39Speaker 4: did the table. Oh, yeah, this is great, man. Give
- 1:18:42Speaker 4: me the celery water thing.
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Give me the quinoa quinoa master bowl. Yeah, oh,
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: my God. Give me the avocado split legumes. Give me
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: the felt soup and the lentil bean pie. This is
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: going to be delicious, man. Give me the gluten-free, gluten-free, tasteless-free,
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: hard rock biscuit and hard tack gruel.
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: Man, I love this, Pato. You my friend, y'all.
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: Let me get up.
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: Riblet platter with a side of brisket hog. Let me
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: get the pig platter cornbread express. Bring it directly to
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: my room. Put it under an alias. Go ahead and
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: put it in my room for me. Have it sitting
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: in there already.
- 1:19:30Speaker 3: And put my robe on top of the food.
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll be out of this vegan place in
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: no time. Man, one time even, listen, with the boys,
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: we had went somewhere. We were staying at the Four Seasons.
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: This is what I do like about it. I know
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: you ain't going to go there. I'm not even telling you.
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: But what is beneficial? Our flight was delayed. On the app,
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: I said, hey, we were going to have dinner, but
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: our flight's been delayed. Is there a way you guys
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: could have some food ready for us? We want to
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: place an order. They said, would you like it in
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: your room prepared? Yes. We get in the room, sliders, cakes, cookies,
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: all the stuff already in my room. I said, this
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: is what I pay for, man. Have it in there.
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: I ain't got to wait. It was timed perfectly. Open
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: the door. Tink, tink, tink. Food in there. Food.
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: I was like, man, God bless America.
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: And here you are at the Doubletree Inn like, hey, man,
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: can I get a protein bar?
- 1:20:32Speaker 2: Yeah, my hotel's under the freeway, y'all.
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: Ha, ha. Move, Tom. I'm peeing over here. Hey, man,
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: the club set this hotel up for $ 62.
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: The motel's out there. It be girls out there. Hey, honey,
- 1:20:45Speaker 3: you looking for a good time? Like, what the hell?
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: You from the 80s.
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: Are you a cop, Jack? I'm just going to my room, man.
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: I'm just going to my room.
- 1:20:56Speaker 3: Hey, is that Anton Chigurh looking for somebody?
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: That's the kind of hotels I be staying at, man.
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: There'd be drug cartels pulling up to the room next door.
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: You're paying by the hour.
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: Oh, man, though.
- 1:21:10Speaker 4: All right, this is going to be a long episode,
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: but we got to do this. Tony had this idea.
- 1:21:16Speaker 4: Go ahead and give it to him, Tone.
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: Oh, oh.
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: The flowers.
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: The flowers, man. I want to incorporate a new idea
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: on the show called The Flower Shop, where we give
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: flowers to people... actors, musicians, whatever, that I feel are underappreciated,
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: don't get talked about enough, all right? I'm like, man,
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: they're fly. Because what inspired it was, well, one.
- 1:21:41Speaker 3: I was just thinking about this particular group, and I
- 1:21:43Speaker 3: was just like, man, they was dope as hell.
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: I was just thinking to myself.
- 1:21:48Speaker 3: Jason Weaver's interview on Cam Newton's show.
- 1:21:51Speaker 2: On Funky Friday.
- 1:21:52Speaker 3: Funky Friday.
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: And the outpouring of love and flowers he received from
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: his episode, it was just like, this is what I'm
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: talking about, and this is what I like to see.
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: And he's alive and well and healthy.
- 1:22:03Speaker 3: He's alive and well to get it.
- 1:22:05Speaker 4: It was so good to see Jason Weaver, who is
- 1:22:07Speaker 4: a good dude.
- 1:22:08Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure. And he gives great interviews.
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: He gives great interviews. Ain't heard a bad story about him.
- 1:22:14Speaker 2: Child star.
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: Child star. His mom helped him back.
- 1:22:17Speaker 3: Gave him a great deal.
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: With the Lion King. I can hear that story 30 times.
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: I love that story.
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: It's the greatest story ever.
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: I love that story. He's just a good dude. Yeah.
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: And he's 47, 48, something like that. So he's of
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: clear mind.
- 1:22:32Speaker 4: He was like, the funniest thing about Jason Weaver, black
- 1:22:35Speaker 4: folks was like, hey, nigga, who the hell you talking about?
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: He was like, me. Man, nah. He's like, man, I
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: might not be the biggest star.
- 1:22:42Speaker 3: What the hell are you talking about?
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: You Jason Weaver. Nah, you Jason Weaver, man. Nah, I'm
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: just saying, I feel like Nah, man. Nah, man.
- 1:22:51Speaker 4: You was young Simba and Michael Jackson, man. You ain't
- 1:22:55Speaker 4: gotta do nothing else. He did all kind of stuff. Hey,
- 1:22:58Speaker 4: stop talking about Jason Weaver like that, Jason Weaver. You
- 1:23:01Speaker 4: better put some respect on your name as yourself.
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: You've been in our lives for a long time.
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: My whole life. There is no time that I was
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: watching TV and I don't remember Jason Weaver.
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: Lion King, Jackson 5 American Dream was.
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: What, 90?
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like 91, 92.
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: So I was eight or nine, you know? Thea.
- 1:23:22Speaker 3: Smart guy.
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: Smart guy. ATL, The Shot, Chingy Video. He was there.
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: I'm only one call away. One call away, man. I'm
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: only one call away. We cussed Jason Weaver out on
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: his behalf for him for a calendar week. He was humble, though, man.
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: That's that Chicago shit.
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: Yeah, because Chicago people don't like that.
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: The only Chicago person that was just full of themselves
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: at all times was Kanye West. Usually, Chicago people just
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: be like, we confident, but we just be like, hey, man.
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: Can I offer something, though? Yes.
- 1:24:00Speaker 4: On this Kanye West thing, because I agree with you.
- 1:24:04Speaker 4: Kanye's delusion at that time.
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. was necessary. A thousand percent.
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: They would have never let him be anything more than
- 1:24:12Speaker 2: a producer.
- 1:24:13Speaker 3: A thousand percent.
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: If he wasn't like, I'm... He had to do that.
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: Had to. In order to excel.
- 1:24:20Speaker 2: And then once he became a rapper producer, and he
- 1:24:22Speaker 2: was trying to get into fashion, they were like.
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: Bro, you already make beats in rap. Bro, you not
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: finna sell no clothes. Shoes! Watch out!
- 1:24:32Speaker 3: He's just like, shoes! Nah, shut up, Kanye.
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: Just make... Just make the music and hush. We already
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: let you introduce a new genre of rap. Kanye is credited,
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: if not as the pioneer, one of the pioneers of
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: backpack rap.
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: Right?
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: Kanye was not a street dude.
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: No.
- 1:24:51Speaker 2: You know, he was just like, bro, I like fashion.
- 1:24:53Speaker 2: I like clothes.
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: He changed the guard. He changed the guard. When he
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: came out and it was hidden, because at that time
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: it was all that street shit. Yeah. It was like super,
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? It was the 50 Cent era.
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: And he was like, man, I'm a regular dude.
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: I'm regular.
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: And the regular dudes outnumber the street cats.
- 1:25:12Speaker 3: Way more. Yeah, we've been waiting for this.
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: I said, oh, my God. Yeah.
- 1:25:17Speaker 4: And you can see the proliferation of so many different
- 1:25:21Speaker 4: types of rappers who are, like, from the Kanye West school.
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: Of, I'm not a street dude. And me as a
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: church kid. Like, you can see the chance to Kanye...
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: You can see the adjacentness, especially if they're both from Chicago.
- 1:25:39Speaker 3: I will say this.
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: Okay. I think Kanye West is the most influential.
- 1:25:48Speaker 3: Rapper of all time.
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: When you do the totality of what he brought, as
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: a rapper, the stuff he was rapping about, his image.
- 1:25:58Speaker 3: As a producer.
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:26:00Speaker 3: Changing of the sound. Shoot, even his 808 and Heartbreak switch.
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. It's so many artists under the 808 and Heartbreak umbrella.
- 1:26:08Speaker 1: This is two different versions of Kanye that are influencing
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: so many different artists. To this day, you can tell
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: they're influenced by Kanye West.
- 1:26:16Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: Fashion, shoes, imagery, visuals. Love Kanye or hate him. His
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: influence is crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like,
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: if you look at, of course, Rakim inspired, like, so many.
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:26:33Speaker 3: Rakim is up there.
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: Tupac, but I feel like his influence only went so
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: far in terms of... Mm-hmm. image.
- 1:26:43Speaker 3: Once you shave your head.
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: You're trying to be Pac. That wasn't even the case.
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: People always compare DMX and Tupac. They're not even the same.
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: They're black and bald.
- 1:26:51Speaker 3: They're black and bald and their shirts is off.
- 1:26:53Speaker 2: That's enough.
- 1:26:54Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Tupac was a whole poet and dancer. Tupac was
- 1:27:00Speaker 4: probably pigeonholed because at that time you weren't allowed to
- 1:27:03Speaker 4: be more than a thing.
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: You gangsta rap. thug life tattoo the poems.
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: Is out but he wasn't even always that I know
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: but I'm saying like once he became that version of
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: Tupac they tried to freeze him right there.
- 1:27:15Speaker 4: Imagine if he could be like oh no I'm just
- 1:27:17Speaker 4: like I'm gonna make my 808s and heartbreak or my
- 1:27:20Speaker 4: what's top of the crate of the flower thing or
- 1:27:22Speaker 4: Igor also imagine Tupac didn't die And he was allowed
- 1:27:27Speaker 4: to live and express himself, even as he's acting.
- 1:27:30Speaker 2: He was funny. He's a great actor. He was an artist.
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: He was an artist.
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: If you look at Tupac's evolution, he come out, he
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: was super militant with Tupacalypse now. And then, strictly for
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: my niggas, he still had that political, social, political aim,
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: but he was having fun too. I get around. I
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: get around.
- 1:27:48Speaker 3: I'm just smashing these girls.
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: I'm out here. I'm out here all the time. And
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: then when Me Against the World came out, that's when
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: he got introspective. That was his most introspective album.
- 1:27:57Speaker 3: For sure.
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: I'm scared they're going to try to kill me. You know,
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: so many tears. I want to dedicate this to my mom.
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: You see all the, it's just Me Against the World.
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: I'm against the media, the press, the ops. I'm getting shot.
- 1:28:10Speaker 2: You have the crimes.
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: The case. The case is against him.
- 1:28:15Speaker 3: It's a lot going on.
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: His hair grew out.
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: And then he one of them type of people that
- 1:28:19Speaker 1: jump out the window for people that look out for him.
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: For sure.
- 1:28:21Speaker 3: So when Suge Knight's like, man, I'll give you $ 1.
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: 5 million.
- 1:28:25Speaker 3: Come to death row.
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: There's death row for everybody, y'all.
- 1:28:27Speaker 3: Just jumping out the window.
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: If you ain't rocking with us at all levels, fuck you, Snoop.
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: How you out here second guessing? It was extreme. He
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: was just doing.
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: Nah, he was.
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: He went overboard.
- 1:28:39Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: For sure. I really feel like that's what led to
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: his death is that he went overboard for the team
- 1:28:46Speaker 1: and they ended up stomping out a real street.
- 1:28:48Speaker 2: And then, and then Kiffy D.
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: Yeah. And so. I love this Kanye take. But Kanye, man,
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: Kanye comes out. He's like, oh, he's just a producer. Oh,
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: he's a producer rapper. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? Oh,
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: he's got the polo shirt and the jeans and the
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: backpack on.
- 1:29:05Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? He's doing this. And every
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: album that Kanye did was vastly different than the one
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: before it. Even the ones that people don't like.
- 1:29:15Speaker 3: Jesus.
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: As a fan. I hate Jesus, but I respect it.
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was going to say. He's like
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: Spike Lee to me in this way. Spike Lee takes risks,
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: and some of those risks I abhor. But as an artist,
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: I would rather you be like, I'm about to try
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: this thing. Sink or swim.
- 1:29:35Speaker 4: And I could always, like, you know Spike Lee could
- 1:29:37Speaker 4: always go back to New York, black things. He could
- 1:29:40Speaker 4: make that same movie a million different ways. But I
- 1:29:43Speaker 4: appreciate the missteps. Kanye from.
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: College Dropout, Late Registration, Graduation, even those three are very different.
- 1:29:53Speaker 2: But you could even say I see similarities.
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: But then the 808 and Heartbreak is a hard departure.
- 1:30:01Speaker 5: Hard!
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: Because me, I was like, what the fuck is this?
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: But then I was listening to it, I was like, yo,
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: this is kind of dope. There's some good tracks on here.
- 1:30:10Speaker 3: And then Dark Twisted Fantasy.
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: That was a crazy experience. Sonically, that album was crazy.
- 1:30:18Speaker 2: One of my favorite albums.
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: It was great. And I can't even say it's underrated.
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: I think people properly rated it. I think people probably
- 1:30:24Speaker 1: rated it. He just had.
- 1:30:25Speaker 2: So that.
- 1:30:26Speaker 1: And people... Everybody don't love 808s and Heartbreak. It's kind
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: of polarizing, but I think people respect... The influence is undeniable.
- 1:30:34Speaker 2: And when it came... Yeah. The offshoot.
- 1:30:37Speaker 4: It's like a coaching tree of a football team. That offshoot,
- 1:30:41Speaker 4: you can point to that album and.
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: And then he goes back.
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: And then he has.
- 1:30:47Speaker 2: Was Yeezus sixth?
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeezus was after My Dark Twisted.
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: So that's sixth.
- 1:30:52Speaker 1: And then what's Life of Pablo? Life of Pablo. Which,
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: you know... I like Life of Pablo.
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: I like the first half.
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: He was... At that time, he was like... He was
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: messing up some of the great... Father Stretched My Hands
- 1:31:04Speaker 1: and Bleached Buttholes. I was just like... You could tell
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: with Life of Pablo, he was mentally jumbled. I feel
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: like he didn't have a singular vision on Life of Pablo.
- 1:31:14Speaker 1: That album... is his most chaotic, sonically. Because like, what's
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: the aim here? Like, where are you going with all this?
- 1:31:23Speaker 2: I agree.
- 1:31:24Speaker 3: It feels like one project, but he was all over
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: the place.
- 1:31:28Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:31:28Speaker 1: I was just like, yo, he everywhere with this. 1,000%.
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: It's like watching, if that was a movie, he would
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: have a martial arts scene in the beginning. Then there's
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: a hardcore.
- 1:31:37Speaker 3: Introspective drama.
- 1:31:39Speaker 2: Then a sex scene.
- 1:31:40Speaker 3: Then there's a sex scene.
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:31:41Speaker 3: Then hard sex.
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:31:43Speaker 3: Then he in the church. And then it's like, you know, motivational.
- 1:31:48Speaker 3: It's like, what the.
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: Hell is happening? There's some zombies come out the back. Like,
- 1:31:53Speaker 1: what the fuck? And then at that time was right
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: around the time celebrity was a choice.
- 1:31:59Speaker 4: And then people was like, all right. It was around
- 1:32:01Speaker 4: the two or three. It might not have been right then,
- 1:32:03Speaker 4: but it was around the two or three year period.
- 1:32:05Speaker 4: And then the music, we stopped checking for it. But
- 1:32:08Speaker 4: then when he came back with the gospel, he made
- 1:32:11Speaker 4: some good gospel songs. He won some awards and stuff
- 1:32:13Speaker 4: like that.
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: I mean, they're fine. world-renowned yeah but he did some
- 1:32:17Speaker 1: then he was just like after the last couple albums
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: i've been i've been off it and i think i
- 1:32:22Speaker 1: honestly think that's the key to artistic longevity is how
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: much you can change per album good or bad if
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: you look at if you look at outcast every album
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: was different yep you look at tupac every album is
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: different you look at uh biggie only had two with
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: those two albums they were kind of in the same
- 1:32:40Speaker 1: vein but it Jay-Z didn't start to really evolve until
- 1:32:44Speaker 1: later in his career. I would say like the blueprint.
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: That's when he started making a little shift. 444 was
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: a complete... You don't even think you would get that
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: album from Jay-Z. From the way rap was, you don't
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: think an artist like Jay-Z can even make I'm Married,
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: Disappointed My Wife... miscarriages are my responsibility, property raps.
- 1:33:12Speaker 2: A reflective rap.
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: Album, no drugs.
- 1:33:14Speaker 3: I didn't see that coming, man.
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: And as a married man, I said, man, now this
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: is what I call rap. Yeah. I've been a bad
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: husband and a father, and maybe I caused a miscarriage.
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: But with Jay-Z's rap ability?
- 1:33:27Speaker 3: Because a lot of rappers ain't talking about marriage.
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: Hell no. They don't even mention it. If they are married,
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: they don't even mention it. Yeah, my wife anyway.
- 1:33:35Speaker 3: Streets.
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: Bars. Similes. Seriously. Metaphors.
- 1:33:42Speaker 3: Like, take us through your.
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: Marriage, man. For sure.
- 1:33:46Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:33:46Speaker 3: All the married rappers, they just be like, they just
- 1:33:49Speaker 3: be rapping.
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's, I mean, no disrespect, but this might
- 1:33:52Speaker 1: sound disrespectful.
- 1:33:54Speaker 4: When Rev Run was on the BET Cypher and he
- 1:33:56Speaker 4: was still rapping like it was 83, I was like,
- 1:33:58Speaker 4: all right, y'all.
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: All right.
- 1:34:03Speaker 4: Niggas is rapping like it is and he come in
- 1:34:06Speaker 4: one to the three and the four to the five.
- 1:34:08Speaker 1: I'm on the run. I'm in the tub. Watch out, bro.
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: No disrespect. Hell no, bro.
- 1:34:17Speaker 1: With the hat? Joey, Joey, he is on, nah, nah. Yeah,
- 1:34:23Speaker 1: you gotta have that evolution, man. I'm not trying to,
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: and rap is one of those genres, we kill our elders,
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: legend killers.
- 1:34:31Speaker 3: Elders get thrown on the grill.
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: Now I feel like we get into a place where
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: we can appreciate, because if you look at 50 Cent,
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: for example, he didn't evolve. No. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: He didn't evolve. He had a monster moment.
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: He had a monster two-album window.
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: Everybody was like, oh. And then at the time where
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: Kanye was that dude. Remember 50 Versus Kanye? Bloodbath.
- 1:34:59Speaker 3: I've been talking about that on my socials.
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: Bloodbath.
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: Man, it was like I was arguing that 50 Cent,
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: the Curtis album, did what it did first week. Because
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: of that competition and wager. Had he not been like,
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: I'm going at Kanye West. Had he just slid that
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: album out, it probably would have did maybe 100,000 to
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: 200,000 less.
- 1:35:23Speaker 2: What did he do, like 400?
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: It did like 690. What did Kanye do?
- 1:35:27Speaker 3: Nine something.
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: Hey, man. He almost did a million in a week.
- 1:35:32Speaker 2: Hey, y'all. It's over with.
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: But I feel like that wager added probably 200,000 to
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: 50 cents tally. 50 Cent, if you ask me, was
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: a better marker than he was at anything else.
- 1:35:48Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 1:35:48Speaker 4: The narrative of the getting shot nine times for a
- 1:35:51Speaker 4: gangster rapper out of New York.
- 1:35:52Speaker 2: He had the rapping ability. I'm not taking that away.
- 1:35:54Speaker 2: But what he had.
- 1:35:56Speaker 4: was a narrative that was impossible to ignore. Pre-internet, like,
- 1:36:01Speaker 4: Soulja Boy, I can put you on. You hear this stuff.
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: And then he got just like a certain voice and
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: cadence and he's muscular. He got nine times, man. Nine
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: times he lived. He got beef.
- 1:36:13Speaker 2: He was like a legend.
- 1:36:14Speaker 4: It was like a, oh my God, this guy, you
- 1:36:17Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? He had a great story.
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: And he hit the scene and it was like, get
- 1:36:22Speaker 1: Richard Dye trying, like, it was like an asteroid. Because
- 1:36:26Speaker 1: it was like, his whole air was like, all right,
- 1:36:29Speaker 1: I'm going to create some conversation with How to Rob.
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: So he got all those rappers that he mentioned. Fired up.
- 1:36:35Speaker 2: Genius marketing.
- 1:36:36Speaker 3: Great, great marketing move.
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: And then... They shelved his album. He gets shot nine times.
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: He's going mixtape crazy. He got beef with one of
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: the hottest rappers out, with Ja Rule in them. And
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: he won that.
- 1:36:48Speaker 3: So they already beefing on the mixtape.
- 1:36:50Speaker 1: So people talking.
- 1:36:52Speaker 3: And then you get the co-sign from Eminem and Dr.
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: Dre. And they like the hottest things. At this point
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: in time, Eminem had the highest selling debut album rap ever. Absolutely.
- 1:37:03Speaker 3: So it was the perfect storm, just like everything working together.
- 1:37:05Speaker 2: And then he delivered.
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: And then he delivered. Debut album. Get Rich or Die
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: Trying was undeniable.
- 1:37:11Speaker 2: That's his miseducation.
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:37:14Speaker 4: Like, most people won't even argue that 50 even has
- 1:37:19Speaker 4: a discography worth talking about.
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:37:21Speaker 2: But what they will not argue.
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: Get Rich or Die Trying.
- 1:37:24Speaker 2: Bruh.
- 1:37:25Speaker 3: You can't deny it. You cannot deny it.
- 1:37:28Speaker 2: It was seismic.
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
- 1:37:30Speaker 3: Everybody had it.
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: It reminds you of the movie when people are driving by,
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: listening to the song, the music video. He got the
- 1:37:38Speaker 1: upside down thing. He was undeniable.
- 1:37:41Speaker 2: He was here.
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: In the club. He talked about Ja Rule singing, then
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: he came singing. He came and did the same. He
- 1:37:50Speaker 1: came in riding on the underneath.
- 1:37:52Speaker 3: Once he did Candy Shop, I was like, you're.
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: Doing the same? Ja Rule had to be like. I'm
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: doing what Ja Rule was doing.
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: Come on, man.
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: Come on.
- 1:38:00Speaker 3: Candy Shop pissed me off so bad.
- 1:38:02Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, man. He's doing what Ja Rule was doing.
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: And he just kept going. Yeah.
- 1:38:08Speaker 2: He just kept going.
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: All right. Hey, man.
- 1:38:11Speaker 3: How did we get here?
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: Tony, I don't know. If y'all are still listening to
- 1:38:15Speaker 1: this episode, I understand, but at the same time, the amount.
- 1:38:21Speaker 3: Of things- This episode is the life of Pablo.
- 1:38:24Speaker 2: That's what.
- 1:38:26Speaker 3: This episode is.
- 1:38:27Speaker 2: You have to listen to the whole thing to even
- 1:38:29Speaker 2: connect it.
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: Dots. Yeah.
- 1:38:31Speaker 4: The thing about dots, dipping dots is an ice cream
- 1:38:34Speaker 4: that I don't like. Dipping dots only needs to be
- 1:38:36Speaker 4: at six flat.
- 1:38:38Speaker 1: The drop.
- 1:38:38Speaker 2: Yeah, the drop. We over there.
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: We done? Flowers involved. Oh, yeah.
- 1:38:43Speaker 3: That's what... Yeah, the flowers.
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: Yes. So... That's how I got here. So I wanted
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: to give flowers to En Vogue, man. So here's what
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: I want to say about En Vogue and what makes
- 1:38:53Speaker 1: them stand out as a group. Usually when you get
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: an R & B group, they tend to focus on
- 1:38:59Speaker 1: the lead singers and they focus on maybe one or
- 1:39:02Speaker 1: two lead singers per R & B group. En Vogue
- 1:39:07Speaker 1: is a group where all four members got solo shines.
- 1:39:11Speaker 1: They all got their time to shine. The first time
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: I ever seen it in vogue, it was the Hold
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: On video. Hold on to your love. It opens up
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: with a cover from Terry Ellis singing the Jackson 5.
- 1:39:30Speaker 1: When I had you, I treat you bad. She did that.
- 1:39:34Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, shit.
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:39:38Speaker 3: When they cut into the song, Cindy's the lead on it.
- 1:39:41Speaker 1: Hold on. They sing and they look phenomenal. Legs, vocal
- 1:39:45Speaker 1: talent is going down.
- 1:39:47Speaker 2: Yes.
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: And so then they do more singles. They do Don't Go.
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: Terry's the lead on that. Yep. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: And so they were passing that ball around to where
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: you got... giving them something he can feel. Dawn's the
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: lead on that. You got, you're never going to get it.
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: Maxine's the lead on that. You got Free Your Mind.
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: They all, they all, they all passing the mic. They
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: was rappers.
- 1:40:16Speaker 3: In Vogue is like a R & B rap group.
- 1:40:18Speaker 2: Super group.
- 1:40:19Speaker 1: Everybody's rapping. 1000%. Wu-Tang.
- 1:40:23Speaker 2: We could just, anybody.
- 1:40:24Speaker 1: He passing the mic. Ain't nobody in the background. Ain't
- 1:40:28Speaker 1: nobody on the keyboards. She just do the beats. Ain't
- 1:40:31Speaker 1: no Devontae. I knew you was going to say that.
- 1:40:35Speaker 1: As soon as you said that, I said, oh, Devontae.
- 1:40:38Speaker 1: Devontae finna catch a direct hit. Devontae and Galvin.
- 1:40:42Speaker 3: He was a songwriter. He was vital.
- 1:40:45Speaker 2: But when it came to singing.
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: He was just like, what's up, y'all? What's up with tonight?
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: What's up with tonight?
- 1:40:52Speaker 3: In Vogue, everybody could have had their own little solo missions.
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: Yes. And that group and their imagery was crazy. Like
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: if you look at the giving them something he can
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: feel video and they in them red dresses.
- 1:41:04Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. I told Melissa this.
- 1:41:09Speaker 4: I think I can trace my love for brown skinned
- 1:41:12Speaker 4: women to In Vogue.
- 1:41:14Speaker 2: When they came out, I was like.
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: You got over Molly Ringwald, didn't you?
- 1:41:19Speaker 2: Molly Ringwald, get the hell off the TV, man.
- 1:41:23Speaker 1: Watch out.
- 1:41:24Speaker 4: Cindy Crawford, man, shut the hell up. We got four
- 1:41:28Speaker 4: brown-skinned women.
- 1:41:29Speaker 1: We got the real Cindy over here. Hey, the real
- 1:41:32Speaker 1: Cindy is here. The real Cindy is involved. I used
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: to be watching those videos like, man, man, look at that.
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: I mean.
- 1:41:41Speaker 3: They was all fine.
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: Oh, I was like.
- 1:41:44Speaker 3: They was all fine, dog.
- 1:41:45Speaker 1: They used to be in black leather. I used to
- 1:41:48Speaker 1: be like, what's in Vogue mean? The concepts, the styles
- 1:41:53Speaker 1: they were doing with their videos, the don't go, they
- 1:41:55Speaker 1: had the flowy desert stuff with the joints going. And
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: then I remember Give It Up, Turn It Loose was
- 1:42:02Speaker 1: a period piece. It was in black and white. It
- 1:42:04Speaker 1: was like we in the 30s and 40s. They in
- 1:42:07Speaker 1: there looking like they belong in that era. It was
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: Jack Beauty of the Week. Four months in a row.
- 1:42:13Speaker 3: It was crazy.
- 1:42:14Speaker 1: Dawn likes Cindy. Cindy likes Maxine. Maxine likes singing. I
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: was crushing on a different one every video. Man. Dawn
- 1:42:22Speaker 1: is the one. Actually, it's Cindy. Actually, it's Maxine. Actually,
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: it's Terry.
- 1:42:26Speaker 3: I was just all over the place as a teen.
- 1:42:30Speaker 3: And then the song from Set It Off.
- 1:42:32Speaker 1: Come on, man. What's it gonna be? Come on. I
- 1:42:38Speaker 1: can't pretend. That Set It Off....
- 1:42:50Speaker 2: That song is inseparable from Set It Off.
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: Yeah. That song is... It's big, man. Man. That song
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: is big. It's huge. In terms of just like, it
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: feels cinematic when you listen to it. It's got some
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: dramatic chops on the song. I mean, they got stomachs out.
- 1:43:12Speaker 1: And I love back in the day when the song
- 1:43:13Speaker 1: was part of the movie, they would cut in between
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: the movie. They cut to Blair Underwood. I mean, they
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: got the dark lipstick on. Man, watch out. And the
- 1:43:22Speaker 1: beauty of En Vogue, the way they set this video up,
- 1:43:25Speaker 1: they're standing on stage and they're singing to an audience.
- 1:43:27Speaker 1: They did that same thing and giving them something he
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: can feel. That's just like, yo, man, we sing. We
- 1:43:34Speaker 1: stand on stage and we sing it.
- 1:43:36Speaker 2: Let me tell you what. Me and Angel just talked
- 1:43:38Speaker 2: about this on Here's the Thing.
- 1:43:40Speaker 1: En Vogue was in that garage practicing. Yeah. Before we
- 1:43:44Speaker 1: see you. You sing. Now you sing. Whoever was managing
- 1:43:49Speaker 1: them was like, I don't even want nobody to be
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: able to say it's you or you. It's all four
- 1:43:54Speaker 1: of us. Which is partly, this is Flowers, we don't
- 1:43:58Speaker 1: want to talk about negativity stuff, but part of the
- 1:44:01Speaker 1: reason they struggle at this time is because Don don't
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: be a part of it.
- 1:44:05Speaker 2: We be like, once Don left.
- 1:44:07Speaker 3: The group, I was like, watch out. No disrespect.
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: Disrespect.
- 1:44:12Speaker 3: But En Vogue, to me, was a unit, man.
- 1:44:15Speaker 2: It was all.
- 1:44:16Speaker 3: Four of them or nothing.
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: Even though, you know, Don had success with Lucy Pearl
- 1:44:20Speaker 1: and they had EV3 and stuff.
- 1:44:22Speaker 3: But watch out, man.
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: Hey, man.
- 1:44:24Speaker 2: You packaged us as y'all.
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: We not taking no variations. And here's the thing, you
- 1:44:33Speaker 1: ever see a group, NSYNC, for example, or just Jackson 5,
- 1:44:37Speaker 1: you'd be like, man, I kinda want them to go solo.
- 1:44:40Speaker 1: I never looked at them in vogue like that. That's
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: a great point.
- 1:44:44Speaker 3: I never wanted anybody to be solo.
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 1:44:49Speaker 3: Cisco, I was like, Cisco was.
- 1:44:50Speaker 1: I mean, bro.
- 1:44:51Speaker 3: Cisco was undeniable.
- 1:44:53Speaker 1: You know that solo album was coming. And they could
- 1:44:55Speaker 1: also all sing.
- 1:44:57Speaker 3: For sure.
- 1:44:57Speaker 1: But Cisco was always a step or two in front
- 1:44:59Speaker 1: of the group. He was a showman through and through.
- 1:45:02Speaker 2: He was like, man.
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: He's doing the one-handed flip thing. Get out of here, dog.
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: You're not. Nokia ain't doing it. Cisco had the open vest. Yeah.
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: Come on.
- 1:45:11Speaker 3: He just had it, man.
- 1:45:12Speaker 1: He's spinning. Everybody else is like cool and squinty ass.
- 1:45:17Speaker 1: Cisco was spinning, twirling, handstand spin. Yay!
- 1:45:23Speaker 2: Solo album.
- 1:45:25Speaker 4: Soon as Cisco did that, the record executive was like,
- 1:45:28Speaker 4: all right, y'all.
- 1:45:30Speaker 1: Let me line up the producers for the Cisco solo album.
- 1:45:34Speaker 1: Nokia has one of my favorite openings of... I think
- 1:45:39Speaker 1: it's Five Steps.
- 1:45:40Speaker 2: I think it's Nokia.
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: I always get confused. I don't know how much longer
- 1:45:44Speaker 1: we're gonna be here. Oh, he was singing solo? I
- 1:45:47Speaker 1: didn't know he was singing solo.
- 1:45:48Speaker 2: Yeah, Sisqo was like, man, keep going, man.
- 1:45:50Speaker 1: Yeah. Sisqo, we were Five Steps. Watch out. From eternity,
- 1:45:58Speaker 1: we were. He gave him the opening, and Sisqo still
- 1:46:01Speaker 1: was like, all right.
- 1:46:03Speaker 2: Great job, man.
- 1:46:04Speaker 1: Four steps, four steps, pedal up. It's my show, man.
- 1:46:11Speaker 1: I'm Mr. Dragon, nigga. Even the album covers, it's like,
- 1:46:14Speaker 1: Cisco like this dead center.
- 1:46:18Speaker 3: Dead center.
- 1:46:19Speaker 1: You look at the En Vogue album covers, it's the
- 1:46:21Speaker 1: four of them just sitting in the desert.
- 1:46:23Speaker 3: They all just sitting.
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: They are situated to where I don't know who the
- 1:46:28Speaker 1: leader of this group is. Funky Divas, they all walking
- 1:46:31Speaker 1: side by side together.
- 1:46:33Speaker 3: Nobody in the front. Nobody positioned to stand out.
- 1:46:36Speaker 1: It's all four of them.
- 1:46:37Speaker 2: I think that was great.
- 1:46:39Speaker 1: A & Ring.
- 1:46:41Speaker 4: It was a great presentation of En Vogue and that's
- 1:46:43Speaker 4: why we accepted them like that.
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: And they always delivered like that. Their 90s run, dare
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: I say, they were at minimum, I.
- 1:46:56Speaker 4: Know TLC outsold everybody. Those numbers was crazy. I think
- 1:47:02Speaker 4: they was competing with the Supremes. I think they might
- 1:47:05Speaker 4: still be the greatest selling group.
- 1:47:07Speaker 3: They still hold that title.
- 1:47:08Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:47:09Speaker 3: Destiny's Child right on the heels though.
- 1:47:10Speaker 2: Destiny's Child, stole some numbers.
- 1:47:13Speaker 4: But you got, I mean, also, Can we just say,
- 1:47:16Speaker 4: as people in that decade, the choices we had, TLC,
- 1:47:20Speaker 4: Destiny's Child, En Vogue, SWV, Escape, and then you have
- 1:47:26Speaker 4: people who didn't even have that level of success, Total, Brownstone.
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: Allure, Brownstone, Jade.
- 1:47:34Speaker 3: It was so many, though.
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: 702.
- 1:47:36Speaker 4: I'm about to say 808, but it's boom, like in 808.
- 1:47:40Speaker 3: You got like- Black, that was the name of that group.
- 1:47:42Speaker 1: Black? That's 10 groups of just women in one decade.
- 1:47:47Speaker 3: It's mad groups.
- 1:47:48Speaker 2: And En Vogue sits closer to the top of that.
- 1:47:52Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they're probably right under.
- 1:47:54Speaker 4: And Destiny's Child, I feel like, was more the.
- 1:47:57Speaker 1: 96 through the early 2000s.
- 1:47:59Speaker 3: They debuted 98, 97, 98.
- 1:48:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:48:02Speaker 3: En Vogue came out 90.
- 1:48:04Speaker 1: Yeah. So I feel like Destiny's Child bled into the
- 1:48:06Speaker 1: early 2000s. Yeah, for sure. En Vogue was.
- 1:48:09Speaker 2: And Vogue's prime was squarely in the 90s.
- 1:48:12Speaker 4: So they're more of like, because i think destiny child
- 1:48:16Speaker 4: i was more middle school to high school yeah you
- 1:48:19Speaker 4: right but in vogue was like.
- 1:48:21Speaker 1: In vogue held it down from 90 and then they
- 1:48:23Speaker 1: said it all song 96 yeah 90 to 96 is
- 1:48:25Speaker 1: when it was all four of them doing it and
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: year in year out 710 hit songs that are like
- 1:48:34Speaker 1: smashes we can run the numbers box office nerd saying
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: we can run the numbers we giving flowers we giving
- 1:48:43Speaker 1: numbers to show them hell yeah dog all right so
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: info single discography let's talk about it bring it up
- 1:48:55Speaker 1: So their first single, their debut single, Hold On, number
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: one on the R & B charts, number two on
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: the Hot 100. Debut? Debut.
- 1:49:04Speaker 3: That's their first single.
- 1:49:05Speaker 1: Dang. First single, number one on R & B, number
- 1:49:08Speaker 1: two on the main chart with everything all together.
- 1:49:10Speaker 2: What song was it?
- 1:49:11Speaker 1: Hold On. Okay, Hold On. Lies comes out, number one
- 1:49:14Speaker 1: on the R & B chart, number 38 on the
- 1:49:16Speaker 1: main chart.
- 1:49:17Speaker 3: You Don't Have to Worry.
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: Number one on the R & B chart. Dang.
- 1:49:20Speaker 3: Don't Go, number three on the R & B chart. Then.
- 1:49:25Speaker 1: My loving, you're never gonna get it. Number one on
- 1:49:27Speaker 1: the R & B chart, number two on the main chart.
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: Giving him something he can feel, number one on the
- 1:49:32Speaker 1: R & B chart, number six on the main chart.
- 1:49:36Speaker 1: Free Your Mind, number 23 on the R & B chart,
- 1:49:39Speaker 1: number eight.
- 1:49:40Speaker 3: On the main chart. That means that crossover.
- 1:49:42Speaker 2: That's a big crossover.
- 1:49:43Speaker 1: That's a big crossover right there. The whites love that one.
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: It's got that rock element in it. And the video
- 1:49:49Speaker 1: is mad rock and roll. And the rest will follow.
- 1:49:53Speaker 3: And the way they were singing.
- 1:49:55Speaker 1: Give it up turn it loose 16 on the r &
- 1:49:57Speaker 1: b chart 15 on the main chart um.
- 1:50:01Speaker 3: Love don't love.
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: You 31 on r & b 36 on the main
- 1:50:05Speaker 1: runaway love 15 on r & b 51 on the
- 1:50:08Speaker 1: main then they did the hook On What a Man
- 1:50:12Speaker 1: with Salt-N-Pepa.
- 1:50:13Speaker 2: They sure did.
- 1:50:15Speaker 1: Number three on the R & B chart, number three
- 1:50:16Speaker 1: on the main chart. Also, Salt-N-Pepa had the best-selling rap
- 1:50:21Speaker 1: album of 1993. I want to say that. I did
- 1:50:24Speaker 1: not know that. Yeah, very necessary. It went crazy. Don't
- 1:50:28Speaker 1: Let Go, number one on the R & B chart,
- 1:50:31Speaker 1: number two on the main chart. Hey, man. Those is numbers.
- 1:50:36Speaker 1: That is a run. Yeah, for sure. And then that's
- 1:50:40Speaker 1: just like, you.
- 1:50:41Speaker 4: Know, in the 90s, we weren't even about sales as
- 1:50:46Speaker 4: much as we are now.
- 1:50:47Speaker 2: Right. Because the average person didn't have access to the data.
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: We didn't know the number. We just knew where you
- 1:50:52Speaker 1: were on the charts. Right.
- 1:50:54Speaker 2: But the cultural impact.
- 1:50:56Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, you were not black in the 90s and
- 1:50:59Speaker 1: unaware of Envogue.
- 1:51:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:51:02Speaker 4: They were everywhere. Movies, hooks, their own stuff. It was
- 1:51:12Speaker 4: years that they were there.
- 1:51:13Speaker 3: And they sound like no other group, man.
- 1:51:16Speaker 1: When they would do the harmonies together, like the harmonies
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: they would hit in Free Your Mind, yeah. They would harmonize.
- 1:51:23Speaker 3: Four-part harmonies.
- 1:51:24Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: Tone!
- 1:51:28Speaker 4: I'm about to run the greatest hits on the way home,
- 1:51:32Speaker 4: and I hope I'm stuck in traffic. Because I ain't
- 1:51:34Speaker 4: never heard an In Vogue song and I've been like,
- 1:51:36Speaker 4: I ain't really trying to hear it.
- 1:51:37Speaker 2: Because it takes you back to where you were in
- 1:51:40Speaker 2: that time.
- 1:51:41Speaker 1: And they just....
- 1:51:45Speaker 3: Flowers, man.
- 1:51:46Speaker 2: Flowers is a good thing.
- 1:51:48Speaker 3: If you're watching, if you're listening, all for you.
- 1:51:51Speaker 1: Flowers, y'all.
- 1:51:52Speaker 2: We could do a whole podcast called Flowers.
- 1:51:54Speaker 1: Flowers, y'all. Rahman Dunbar, you next. That's a good dude, man.
- 1:51:59Speaker 1: He's a good dude. Good dude, man. He was in
- 1:52:01Speaker 1: that episode of The Soprano where Tony Soprano set him
- 1:52:04Speaker 1: up to get fired and he had to get the
- 1:52:06Speaker 1: job at the little Home Depot. I remember that.
- 1:52:07Speaker 3: He felt bad for him.
- 1:52:09Speaker 4: And he still didn't take the bread. He still didn't
- 1:52:12Speaker 4: take the bread, man. He stood on business. That's why
- 1:52:15Speaker 4: you like him because he stood on business and principle.
- 1:52:17Speaker 4: I don't care who you are, man. License and registration.
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: You got to stand on that business. I'm Tony Soprano.
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: I can't give out no information. Where does he work?
- 1:52:26Speaker 3: I can't give out no information. Where does he work?
- 1:52:29Speaker 1: Did you not hear me? I can't give out no information.
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: I don't care if you're killing people with a cow thing.
- 1:52:36Speaker 1: You're going to have to kill me.
- 1:52:37Speaker 3: You're going to have to kill me.
- 1:52:39Speaker 1: I'm not giving it out. She never even stood up.
- 1:52:41Speaker 1: The way she leaned into it, when he tried to
- 1:52:45Speaker 1: look back one more time, she was like... Just like
- 1:52:51Speaker 1: the white lady from Life. Yeah. Y'all can read so good.
- 1:52:55Speaker 1: Why didn't you see that song? These women is standing
- 1:52:58Speaker 1: no business. Serial killer.
- 1:53:00Speaker 3: We talking about no country for old men. You don't
- 1:53:02Speaker 3: know what we talking about.
- 1:53:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:53:03Speaker 3: He punked that man at the gas station.
- 1:53:05Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:53:06Speaker 1: But her, she was like.
- 1:53:08Speaker 2: She wasn't going.
- 1:53:09Speaker 1: If he would have tried to flip a coin, she'd
- 1:53:11Speaker 1: be like, you can take that coin and shove it
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: up your ass and get out of my office.
- 1:53:17Speaker 3: He would have had to kill her. She's not even
- 1:53:19Speaker 3: waiting for the coin.
- 1:53:20Speaker 2: I think he would have respected her too much to
- 1:53:21Speaker 2: kill her.
- 1:53:22Speaker 1: I feel like that. He's like, all right, man, hey,
- 1:53:24Speaker 1: I don't.
- 1:53:25Speaker 4: Got to tell you. He was respecting people. He wanted
- 1:53:28Speaker 4: to kill the gas station guy because he didn't respect him.
- 1:53:30Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:53:31Speaker 1: He was like, you mean you over here living off
- 1:53:32Speaker 1: your wife's stuff in the back of her parents' evening?
- 1:53:34Speaker 3: He read his whole life right there.
- 1:53:36Speaker 1: The dude's just like, man, she got a good thing
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: going on, man. Yeah, you know, just always making small talks.
- 1:53:43Speaker 1: That's your problem. You're always making small talk. Flip a coin.
- 1:53:46Speaker 1: They call it. I don't even know what the wager is.
- 1:53:51Speaker 1: All right, man. We're done with that. Yeah, man. Watch out.