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Conspiracy Theories Part 1 · Voices Off The Map

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  Speaker 1: What's going on, everyone, and welcome to Voices Off the Map.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host and pilot B. Along with me is
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  Speaker 1: my co-host, co-pilot, and brother Nico.
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  Speaker 2: What's up?
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  Speaker 3: What's up, dude?
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  Speaker 1: Now, today's guest may sound familiar as she comes to
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  Speaker 1: us from the fish tank.
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  Speaker 3: Let's welcome Issa. What's going on, girl?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, guys. What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Now, Issa is a conspiracy junkie, so I know you
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  Speaker 1: have some good stories for us today.
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  Speaker 3: What is it that you want.
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  Speaker 1: To talk about?
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about Susan Dell and what is going on
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  Speaker 4: with her face, her movements.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, just, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like we've all been infiltrated. I don't know, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what?
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  Speaker 1: I can rally behind that because after seeing her in
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  Speaker 1: the Oval Office and then you look at her movements,
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  Speaker 1: it was scary. Compare, just say a snapshot of what
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  Speaker 1: she looked like in the Oval Office to her before
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  Speaker 1: picture when she looked normal. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that what got me the most is
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  Speaker 4: that aside from having that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I just.
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  Speaker 4: Man, it's just so strange to me how someone with
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  Speaker 4: that much money has that much terrible like surgery, considering
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  Speaker 4: that there's so many other like pop culture stars like
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  Speaker 4: Kardashians that have like surgery.
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  Speaker 2: All the time and look hella good.
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  Speaker 4: And then there's like this this thing like what the
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  Speaker 4: fuck is that, bro?
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, my thing is like now let's just go with
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  Speaker 1: the offshoot that this is just botched surgery or whatever
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  Speaker 1: else and that she is 100 percent human.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Let's let's stick in reality.
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  Speaker 1: Then I got to say, damn, because I think not
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  Speaker 1: long after everybody was like, what the fuck? Her husband
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  Speaker 1: came out and made a statement bashing everybody, telling everybody
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  Speaker 1: to stop making fun of his wife and that they're
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  Speaker 1: just jealous that he gets to wake up next to her.
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  Speaker 4: And that's totally fine. I mean, that's what your.
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  Speaker 3: Dreams are made of.
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  Speaker 2: It's their own, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, but, okay, so here's my thing about it, was, like,
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  Speaker 4: when you saw, like, previous videos or any type, you know, like,
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  Speaker 4: media where she would speak publicly prior as a normal
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  Speaker 4: person who had never had any surgery.
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  Speaker 2: It's just different.
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  Speaker 4: Like, the way that she moved, it was almost, like,
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  Speaker 4: mechanical and just so, it was so strange to me. Honestly.
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  Speaker 1: It was definitely. so weird yes and honestly in my
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  Speaker 1: head what it looked like was almost like a disney
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  Speaker 1: animatronic person like.
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  Speaker 2: A clown waving its hand like just kind of yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But like a very bad production.
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  Speaker 2: Of what is it all country bear jamboree oh yeah
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  Speaker 2: it was.
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  Speaker 4: Like a five night at freddy's type like animatronic you
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  Speaker 4: know what i mean just maybe like weird and shit.
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  Speaker 1: Five night at freddy's her animatronic their animatronics moved a
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  Speaker 1: little better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So there was, it was just such strange
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  Speaker 2: like action.
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  Speaker 4: The way that she was acting, the way that she
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  Speaker 4: was speaking, her eye movement, it just didn't seem like
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  Speaker 4: normal to me. It didn't seem like the normal, like
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  Speaker 4: even when you look at someone that has like a
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  Speaker 4: type of autism, they kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of look away.
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  Speaker 4: But it's just not the same. It definitely was not
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  Speaker 4: the same. There was something definitely there that just kind
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  Speaker 4: of rubbed me the wrong way. And then like you said,
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  Speaker 4: to see her in the Oval Office, you're like, what
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  Speaker 4: is this?
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  Speaker 2: What is this? Like, what kind of clown show, freak
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  Speaker 2: show is this? Like, I don't, I don't know. It
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  Speaker 2: blew my mind.
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  Speaker 4: And I also have seen just like several other videos
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  Speaker 4: of like people were like, let's say like their neck
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  Speaker 4: flap looking mask type, you know, it's coming out from
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  Speaker 4: underneath their collar or, Or you see like the one
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  Speaker 4: with like Biden with like the weird fucking hand.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So there's like this weird
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  Speaker 2: shit going on that I'm like, what's going on here?
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  Speaker 1: Well, what was the new one? There was a guy
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  Speaker 1: on Fox and Friends, I think.
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  Speaker 4: It was like a journalist or something or commentator that
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  Speaker 4: his neck.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it literally looked like his whole face was a mask.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. So it just, like, blows my mind.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, infiltration, I don't know, reptilian infestation, you know,
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  Speaker 4: because I hear all of these, like, different stories from, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, watch a lot of Y-Files and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 4: and you hear about, like, you know, how reptilians have
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  Speaker 4: been here for, like, thousands and thousands of years and
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  Speaker 4: how they have, like, morphed and, like, hybrid themselves into, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and then you hear all of these other
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  Speaker 4: conspiracy theories, like, where apparently.
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  Speaker 4: This has been happening for, like, years and years and years. Like, that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the government has known about this and there's, like,
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  Speaker 4: a whole alliance and, like, you know, and it comes into, like,
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  Speaker 4: this whole weird, messy, like, gray area. But then when
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  Speaker 4: you see weird shit like this and you see these, like, characters, like,
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  Speaker 4: in the White House or, like, it blows my mind.
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  Speaker 2: Something is definitely, like, weird and going on for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask you. That kind of leads
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  Speaker 1: into it. So what are we thinking about Adele? What
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  Speaker 1: do we think that she... Are you going with just
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  Speaker 1: an animatronic, some type of robot.
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  Speaker 3: Sort of thing? A paper cutout?
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  Speaker 2: Definitely not.
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  Speaker 4: I definitely don't know what's going on there.
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  Speaker 2: It just seems like, man, it's just in.
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  Speaker 4: A world where you live and you're in that kind
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  Speaker 4: of like social standard, you know what I mean? Like,
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  Speaker 4: how do you go from looking like a normal human
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  Speaker 4: into like this... unrecognizable like specimen of I like I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what the fuck that is but it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: seem very human like to me you know what I
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  Speaker 4: mean so this is not the person I would have
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  Speaker 4: like as the face of any charity trying to reel
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  Speaker 4: people in for money you know what I mean because
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  Speaker 4: she looks crazy as fuck I would not give her my.
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  Speaker 1: Money yeah absolutely but did you ever see like when
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  Speaker 1: they compared Susan Dell with like the other women that
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  Speaker 1: Trump keeps in the White House and they all.
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  Speaker 3: Are fucking scary yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's with
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  Speaker 3: the chick with the huge neck? I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that looks crazy as shit, too. And it's crazy
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  Speaker 4: to me, like, oh, my God, where did they get these, like,
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  Speaker 4: specimens of people? Like, I don't even, like, in my
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  Speaker 4: right mind, it doesn't, like, fit because they all look weird.
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  Speaker 4: Aside from the, like, botched lip type filler, they all
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  Speaker 4: have this distinctive, very weird, not, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know, feminine look. It all looks like modified and
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  Speaker 2: altered and hybrids.
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  Speaker 3: They're hybrids.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Hybrid between human and giraffe.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That lady like, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Now, since we're on the topic of like people in
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  Speaker 1: disguise and what it could be reptilians, aliens, whatever on
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  Speaker 1: the alien topic, what do you think about those two
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  Speaker 1: like Nordic looking figures that were walking around the white house?
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  Speaker 3: They were dressed in red and they were, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that. It almost looks like a cosplay. Almost,
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  Speaker 2: but they were tall as fuck. Yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 4: So, yes, going back to that and picking back off
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  Speaker 4: of that, do you remember that incident at the Miami
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  Speaker 4: Dade mall?
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  Speaker 3: I heard about it. I know there's videos of it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, go ahead, Mika.
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  Speaker 4: No, I was saying, like, portals opened up in the
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  Speaker 4: mall and, like, 10-foot fucking aliens came out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But see, I don't know how much of that was, like,
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  Speaker 1: literally either CGI'd or AI'd or whatever, because when I
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  Speaker 1: watched it, I'm like, like, you can kind of pick, like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that video specifically, but there are certain
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  Speaker 1: videos you look and you're like, that's fake as fuck.
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  Speaker 1: But then there's other ones you look and you're like, yeah, damn, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: because all of a sudden... Well, it's like all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden you see everybody parked along the side staring
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  Speaker 1: at the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like this one off.
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  Speaker 1: Of like, oh my God, look at this UFO in
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  Speaker 1: the fucking sky in traffic still going about their normal day.
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  Speaker 3: That shit's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was just really genuinely interesting that in
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  Speaker 4: a day and age where everybody has a phone, like
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  Speaker 4: literally as an extension of their hand, there isn't better
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  Speaker 4: footage of it. Um, because we're talking about a super
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  Speaker 4: like populated mall, you know, in the middle of an
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  Speaker 4: afternoon or like a Friday night type, you know, situation.
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  Speaker 4: So for there to not be as good clear footage
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  Speaker 4: or more footage of the situation is a little bit weird,
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  Speaker 4: but those are things that I do genuinely, something's there,
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  Speaker 4: something fucking happened.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: It didn't just sprout out of nowhere. Um, so I
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  Speaker 4: genuinely do think that something there definitely like took place.
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  Speaker 4: there's no way that, you know, that could be swept
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  Speaker 4: under the rug, you know, by no means.
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  Speaker 3: No, and I completely agree. And I mean, I definitely
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  Speaker 3: think there's like shit out there.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way in the fuck you're going to tell
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  Speaker 1: me that an endless universe, we're it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No fucking way.
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  Speaker 4: And I just feel also like it's just, I mean, time,
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  Speaker 4: the veil is thin, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Things are happening in this world.
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  Speaker 4: I will take any intervention needed to kind of just
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  Speaker 4: kind of, humble a little bit, like, a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of the drama that's going around worldwide, so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Let me ask you this.
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  Speaker 1: I've wondered, why is it, like, if we jump categories
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  Speaker 1: from either UFOs to, like, Bigfoots or cryptids or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: why the fuck is it that every picture that we
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  Speaker 1: try to get of anything abnormal to us is blurry
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  Speaker 1: as shit? However, a roller coaster can catch a fucking
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  Speaker 1: perfect picture of somebody going 70 miles an hour.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is genuinely interesting that you say that because
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  Speaker 4: that's actually a really good point.
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  Speaker 2: And like you said, aside from like UFOs.
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  Speaker 4: It could even be like paranormal like type stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: It is genuinely weird how in a day and age
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  Speaker 4: where we all have like 4Ks on our phones and
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  Speaker 4: stuff like that, we're not able to like picture things.
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  Speaker 4: you know, what, or validate what you're seeing to like, yes,
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  Speaker 4: I totally agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: A hundred percent, a hundred percent.
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  Speaker 4: It was really funny when we went into, um, the
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  Speaker 4: Zach Baggins museum and they didn't really like, let us
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  Speaker 4: have cameras, but you were allowed to have Polaroids.
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  Speaker 2: You remember that?
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, man, why would they give you
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  Speaker 4: like this lower, um, um, quality film type device to
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  Speaker 4: like walk around the museum to take the pictures and
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  Speaker 4: not let, you know, like people use their phones.
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  Speaker 2: Um, but there is something to that.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, um, different things capture different energies or,
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  Speaker 4: you know, so yeah, deeper. Yes, definitely different frequencies for sure.
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  Speaker 4: So it's just very interesting that like now we're kind
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: of in an age where AI is huge. And it
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  Speaker 4: can manipulate so many things that it's hard for people
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  Speaker 4: to tell what's true and what's not true. And I
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  Speaker 4: feel like it's very confusing and just kind of building
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: this gray area for people to kind of, you know,
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: like we were talking about the commentator on Fox.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that shit, dude.
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  Speaker 4: That looked fucking nuts. That was not normal. I don't
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: know what that man was wearing, what was wrong with
• 10:58
  Speaker 4: his throat. But that's caught on a regular, like, camera.
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  Speaker 2: That can record 4K.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That was there for everyone to see, so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I didn't actually see it, like, on TV
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  Speaker 1: or anything from Fox and Friends, but I saw clips
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  Speaker 1: of it. And, like, the minute I got it, before
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  Speaker 1: even reading the stuff, I'm like, the fuck's going on
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  Speaker 1: with his neck?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And you see several different things like that. Like, you see, like, different, like,
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  Speaker 4: streaks on that, like, on TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: And stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: Like, is this person real? Look at their eyes change and, like,
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I get it. Like, back in the 90s, TVs were, like,
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  Speaker 2: super pixeled. It's hard. It's hard. But now it's not pixeled.
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  Speaker 4: So there are some things that you see that make
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  Speaker 4: it very, very questionable. The other day we were watching
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: a documentary at home and it was like a UFO
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  Speaker 4: disclosure thing. I think we were watching it on like
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: Max or something like that. And there was this big, gosh,
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  Speaker 4: I forget, Stephen Greer, that's his name. He was on
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  Speaker 4: the show and he was kind of like the guy
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  Speaker 4: who had produced the show and he's like in his
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: own show, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: And he's talking and at one.
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  Speaker 4: Point, He was making these really weird, awkward, like, my God,
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  Speaker 4: it was almost like a gecko, the way he's licked
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  Speaker 4: his lips. And he kept doing that repeatedly. And it
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  Speaker 4: was so fucking nuts. And I was like, oh, my God, Sam,
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: can you go back, like, 10 seconds? I need to
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: see that again. And we started looking at it in, like,
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: just kind of, like, on a granular level, like, dissecting
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  Speaker 4: the whole fucking clip.
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  Speaker 2: And it was so fucking weird, dude. Like, I was like,
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: the reptilian is telling us about the reptilians? I've seen
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: it all today. Like, time for a nap.
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  Speaker 3: Now, let me ask you, have you seen Disclosure Day?
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  Speaker 2: I loved it.
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: That was pretty good.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: I freaking loved it. It was great.
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  Speaker 4: I heard a lot of people were just like, yeah.
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: And I was like, man, I just feel like that's
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: how it needs to happen.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, but it needs to happen. Yeah.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, there is a there's a weird one and
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: it's on Hulu. If you ever get a chance, like
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: watch it. But it's called Signal One.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a show like with episodes or like a movie?
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  Speaker 1: It's a movie, but it has Josh Hutcherson and Dennis Quaid.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, I love the Adenos Quaid.
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  Speaker 3: Watch it. It's weird, but also kind of makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 3: I can fuck with that.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: Did you ever watch the Begonia movie? Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I loved it.
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: I loved that movie so hard. Like, it was so insanely, like, weird,
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: but it was so.
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  Speaker 2: Like, how I would imagine.
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  Speaker 4: being just kind of like infiltrating you know what I
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: mean a human society like in that fashion so it
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: was general yeah I loved it it was great.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's definitely it's definitely weird so I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if this is true I have to look more into
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: it but apparently back in the day there were some
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: night vision goggles either I think they were used for
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: the Vietnam War but they were designed differently with a
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  Speaker 1: different type of lens and when you look through this
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  Speaker 1: lens it It literally lets.
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  Speaker 3: You see into... Other dimensions. It's just not really weird. Like,
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: the other dimensions that are still here on Earth. And
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  Speaker 3: so it lets you see.
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  Speaker 2: I think I read something about that the other day.
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  Speaker 1: It lets you see all these cryptids. It lets you
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  Speaker 1: see the UFOs.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I saw that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was weird as shit.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like.
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  Speaker 3: Did you.
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  Speaker 2: Read about that, like, recently?
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  Speaker 4: Because I actually read a whole article about that recently.
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  Speaker 4: And it was like this kind of like physicist guy
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: had found a way to use a specific type camera
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  Speaker 4: where you could, it was like a filter on it.
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  Speaker 4: Like kind of like what you said, it had a
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  Speaker 4: filter on it and it allowed you to see like beings, other.
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  Speaker 2: Dimensional being type stuff.
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  Speaker 4: It almost looks like when you looked at the photos,
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: like weird DMT characters, but they all had faces.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't done DMT also.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: I just want to state the obvious, but, it's like
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  Speaker 4: what it was like explained to be like. So I
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: actually read about that the other day and I found
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: that very interesting. And there was like maybe like 20
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  Speaker 4: pictures along with the article showing like how it looked
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  Speaker 4: like on the viewer's end.
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  Speaker 2: So that's pretty gnarly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was definitely, it was definitely weird.
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  Speaker 1: And so I want to see what the validity to
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: that story is because apparently there's a big pool saying
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: that it is real, that it was true. And once
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: that secret was out, All that glass, all whatever was
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: used was all taken back, destroyed.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, of course.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: A hundred percent.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: A hundred percent. No, no, no. I was going to
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: ask you. So tell me this.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: How do you feel about like why people are not
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: allowed to know the truth? Like, what is your view
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: on that? Like, why do you think it's being held
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: back from us? Like what's really kind of like going on?
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: Whether maybe some of it is like not true and
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: it may be exaggerated, but there is definitely something going on.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That's outside of what we know.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: So my opinion, the reason why is because. One, a
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: good chunk of people wouldn't be able to handle the truth.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying for everybody, because there's a lot of
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: people that would be able to handle it or just
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I fucking knew it. But the other
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: half of that, think back when Avatar first came out,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: like that movie with Pandora and the blue people or
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: aliens or whatever, that that movie was so realistic to
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that people wished that it was real.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: And they actually committed suicide because they realized this life sucked.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, did that really happen?
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it did.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: What? I'm going down that rabbit hole. I've got to
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: look into that. I had no idea that that had happened.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: And that was fake. Like, now picture that as being real.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it does definitely sound way more wonderful than what
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: we have kind of going on for ourselves right now.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I could see the disillusion in that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: The other side of this, now you have religion. Those
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: two usually don't go hand in hand.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: That's where I was going. Yeah, I definitely agree with that.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: I feel like anyone that's kind of put their hands
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: into like a religion that.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Kind of gets it's like being having the rug pulled
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: out from underneath. You know what I mean?
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: So I think a lot of people you think maybe
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: just don't want to see it because it's just like, oh, no,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Christ Jesus.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Is our savior. You know what I mean? And we
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: can never it don't ever be anything more than that.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: God is all. Yeah.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: And that would be a huge conflicting point for a
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: lot of people that would put religion through a tailspin. Now,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: what I really liked about, like, the last Pope, Pope Francis,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: was the fact that he actually integrated science with religion.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: And not saying that the two couldn't integrate themselves.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Like, I get what you're saying.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, like, it didn't have to be separate.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Like, there are certain things that science answers that religion
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: just may not.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: And vice versa.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: There are stuff that religion has the answer to that
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: science just isn't there yet.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: And so that's where belief and faith and everything else
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: comes in.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: What do you think about like also, because this is
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: something that I felt like has always kind of like
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: leaned me more on the path of just kind of
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: being like a little bit more woke and open to
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: like these like other ideas. But like when I lived
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: in Las Vegas and stuff like that, we did a
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: lot of like dune bugging. We go out to the desert,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: did a lot of camping and stuff like that. But
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: there's also like petroglyphs from like Native Americans where they
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: have kind of depicted and you know through the line
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: of like generational storytelling have like confirmed through these stories
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: and experiences that this is like real this is not
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: like you know what i mean they've been talking about
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: beings coming from the skies for like you.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Know then 100 100 i believe that yes something did
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: happen i mean i'm an open-minded skeptic so whether it
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: did or didn't why believe that it didn't why close
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: your mind off to that my thing is if you have,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: especially across the globe, you have all these petroglyphs, hieroglyphs,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: whatever else that depict this, if you notice, all that
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: happens before religion really took over.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: That was the religion. That is what they worshipped in
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: most situations, you know what I mean? Like, these were
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: things that were, like, not normal day-to-day things that they
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: would just kind of see, like, holy shit, like, that
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: just fell from the sky type.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Stuff, you know what I mean?
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I definitely agree with that, and I also
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: feel like religion has definitely kind of kept people in
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: the dark you know what I mean it's almost like
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: almost made you feel bad for like wanting to know
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: more or wanting to look outside of your religion for
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: any like answers or any like kind of curiosity as
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: well so it is very very hard I went to
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: private school my entire life and it was like you
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: were force-fed this is what it is this is how
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: it goes this is you know what I mean and
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: then when you step out into the real life and
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: you start seeing and you start kind of like breathing
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: in all of the things of, like, reality and, like,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: different conversations and pop culture and, like, conspiracy theories and
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: just conversations with your friends and these things come up,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: it does create a curiosity in you to kind of
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: want to, you know what I mean, seek for answers
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that and start kind of venturing into, like, different,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: you know, branches of, like, oddities.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Then let me ask you, have you
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: ever heard of the Quimbaha Artifact?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Oh my god no what is it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: All right do you have your phone i do type
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: this in okay q u i m b a y
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: a b artifact.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yes i know what you're i know what you're
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: talking about.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Oh now what are those those are cool yeah what
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: do they look like to you.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: They look like oh let me look close hold on Oh,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: they're so cool.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: What do they look like to you? Like quick glance.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: They look like, well, yes, they look like little planes.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, those were made Those were created 500 to 1,000 A.D.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: That's so cool.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: But think about it. Why the fuck is that design
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: in their imagination?
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: And some of them have propellers. What the fuck?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Like, it's wild.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: It is. And they're all different, though. That's the thing.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Like, so what I'm seeing is some of them have propellers.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Some of them have, like, different wingspans. Like, some of them,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: they look like literally a variety of different, like, micromachine planes.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Pretty cool. Pretty cool.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: And so it's like you can't tell me that something
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: didn't happen with 100 percent certainty way back then. There's
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: no fucking way that this would be an image in
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: somebody's head. Without having a reference point. Why is there
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a depiction in every culture of a dragon?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and also the giants. I think there's a couple
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: different cultures that have, like, the giants. Well, when I
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: lived in Las Vegas, not far from where I lived
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: in Las Vegas, they had found some bones and stuff
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: like that that were allegedly, like, associated to that, you know.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. whole theory about the giants and stuff like that and.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: We always thought it was super cool because it was
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: also in a canyon where they had also found very
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: much nearby like a whole bunch of like dinosaur.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Bones too I was like, wow, that's so fucking cool, man. Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: That's pretty wild.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I mean, there's definitely something going on, and
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of it has been hush-hush.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a shame. It's really a shame.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I just feel like a lot of people are so
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: blindsided by the day-to-day of, like, things like work and
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: families and... no one really is sitting outside anymore. We're
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: not really looking at the stars. We're not really like
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: taking the time to kind of, you know, to see
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: more than what we look at on a daily basis.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: And that's something that we love doing, you know, sitting
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: in our hammocks and posting it on a tree, looking
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: up at the stars and just hoping to catch something
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: and just kind.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Of giving a little bit more validation.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: What is your take on the ice wall? Do you
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: think it's real? Oh, The one that circles the whole
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: globe and inside of that is like a bigger world.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. I want so much to believe it's real.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: I promise you that because anything is better than what
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: we have right now.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: It sounds like you need to take a trip.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: You know, it's what I tell– anything is possible. Until
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: you can prove me it's not real, it's real. It's
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: real for me. You know what I mean?
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Like, a lot of stories were passed down, like we
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: were talking about earlier, like from generation to generation. And
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: there has to be some truth to some of these things.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: It's not like these weren't stories made to, like, make
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: sure everybody that was a kid in the tribe was
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: home before sunset.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: There has to be some truth to this. Remember back then,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: things were not polluted by media. There was no TV.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: There was no phones.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: You know, these were stories that were like, hey, my
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: grandma saw this, who told my mom, who then told me.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: And that's why we stay out of that gorge type deal.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: You know, so I think anything is possible.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Well, see, that's what makes it difficult for me, because
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to me, yes, it's interesting as stories are and as
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: much as you want to believe it, as stories are
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: passed down, I just look at it as a game
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: of telephone. What started out as possibly one thing is
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: definitely not going to be what the story you end
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: up hearing.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Of course, 100 percent. But then also it's just you
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: can't just brush something under the rug. I think, like
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: I said, a lot of things, times are changing, things
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: are happening in this world. And I think that society
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: is a little bit more woke. Everybody's looking up at
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: the sky a little bit more.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: And people are just looking for something bigger than what
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: is happening.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I think AI is going to ruin that.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I think AI is going to turn around and take
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: people from curiosity to immediately just saying it's all bullshit.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: To diversion. Yeah, of course, 100%.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: And it already does that with some videos. I mean,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: how many times do you not watch a video and
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: you're like, what the fuck? I wonder if that's real.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Like, because there's no telling. Now there's like this gray
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: area that AI has kind of stepped into. And it's
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: made to just kind of confuse and just kind of
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: keep people.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: From knowing what the truth is. Because it's just, yeah,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: so polluting.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: That could definitely be what the elites want though. So
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: to keep all of us, you know, all the sheeple
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: in line.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Agree. Put your, put your, put
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: your styrofoam tin hats on.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: To me, I find it more credible when you have
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: obviously multiple witnesses, even if it's generational that go down.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: If you have like the same sort of story that
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: started in say the Americas, whenever, all of a sudden
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: is the same, almost the same type of stories that
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: happen over in Europe. Like, I mean, for instance, let's
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: take Bigfoot. That bastard is throughout multiple cultures.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. He's a Tibet too. He's a Yeti in Tibet.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like that motherfucker, he's like
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: climbing through all the portals. Yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: And that's what, that's what I'm saying. It's like, you
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: have multiple people talking about the same thing. It's the
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: same stature, the same style. And my color might be
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a little different. But everything about it is the same.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: That to me makes it plausible because there's no way
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you can discount or discredit thousands upon thousands of people
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that say they witnessed it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: And to piggyback off of that, I'll give you like
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: a great example of that. So I grew up in
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Puerto Rico as a kid and my parents lived on
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: the beach. And when they lived on the beach, they
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: walked to school and they would walk the like shore,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: you know, to get into town because that was the
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: quickest way or most direct way to get into town.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: And my mom used to always tell me as a kid,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: she would, this is before like any like footage.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: This is like before. This is like one of those stories.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: My great grandmother used to always talk about how UFOs
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: would come out from underneath the water in the ocean.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: They never came from like so much the sky. They
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: would always like go into.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: The water or out of the water. So that was.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: So long story short, like that was the story we
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: grew up hearing as kids. And then not so long ago,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: just a couple of years ago, they released those photos
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: coming out of Aguadilla in Puerto Rico where the UFO
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: is going in and out of the water is one
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: of the Tic Tacs. And it like blew my mind
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: because when I was a kid, I was always kind.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Of like scared at night. You know what I mean?
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: When we would go and visit like my grandparents and
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: stuff like that because it was so close to the water.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. But then
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: you see like the validation.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: And like I remember watching the video with my mom
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: and my mom was like nonchalant about it.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a normal thing around here. You know what
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: It's just one of those things that just kind of happens.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: And now everybody's talking about it because there's footage about it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: But we've known this all along.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: So that's common. The fuck it is.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: That's not common.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: And so there is some truth to that. Like I said,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: we've been hearing it since we were kids. And then
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: you finally get this proof when you're in your adult
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: life and you're like, oh, fuck. OK, this isn't a
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: story that we were told to just, you know, make
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: sure we were home before the sunset, you know, type deal.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: These are stories that they saw like growing up on
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: this beach, you know, year in and year out, you know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: and it was a normal occurrence.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: And like when you have locals and family that are
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: telling you this, yeah, family can screw with you. But
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: when like everybody knows the story and everybody has some
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: sort of experience, like you kind.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Of take you don't take that with a grain of salt.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: All right, any last-minute things? Nico?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: No, not that I can think of. I mean, there's
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: a lot we could keep talking about, let's be real.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: I just want to tell everyone to go outside, look up,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Anything is possible.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: You just got to, like, have a good intention and,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: you know, keep your eyes open.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: And if it looks weird, it's probably weird.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like a duck, quacks like, or walks
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: like a duck, quacks like that. Period.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: All right, Isa.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Well, I greatly appreciate you coming on and I will
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: definitely have you back.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I will catch you when we are recording
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: for the fish tank.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: So everybody make.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Sure you tune in. Yeah. Make sure everybody tunes in
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: on Friday when fish tank will drop and voices off
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the map will drop on Wednesday.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: So again, Thank you, Issa, for coming. I'm sorry. I
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: didn't mean to cut you off. No worries.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: You guys have a good night. Appreciate you.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: You too. See you later, Issa.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Bye-bye.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Take care. Everybody stay safe and venture out.