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2/23/26: Tucker Vs Huckabee On Israel, Sachs Flames Trump On Iran And Tariffs · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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Speaker 2: What do we have, Crystal, Indeed, we do amazing snow
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Speaker 2: day lots to cover. We've got the big Tucker Carlson
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Speaker 2: versus Mike Huckabee interview, with Huckabee saying hey, he's totally
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Speaker 2: on board with the Greater Israel project based on Biblical scripture,
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Speaker 2: so that's caused huge fallout in the region. We'll show
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Speaker 2: you a bunch of quite extraordinary clips from that interview
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Speaker 2: with our ambassador to Israel. We also continue to watch
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Speaker 2: whether or not we are headed to war with Iran.
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Speaker 2: There's some new new reporting on that front, and Jeffrey
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Speaker 2: Sachs is going to join us to break all of
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Speaker 2: that down. We're also taking a look at what's going
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Speaker 2: that down. We also have updates on whatever is going
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Speaker 2: on with tariffs, interested to get Sager's insights there as well.
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Speaker 1: But before we even get to Tucker, we did have
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Speaker 1: to give a quick shout out to Team USA, the
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Speaker 1: men's hockey team. However, their great victory was quickly besmirched
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Speaker 1: by the presence of one cash Pattel. Why are we
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Speaker 1: punishing our great American athletes. Let's go ahead and put
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Speaker 1: this video. It's just too juicy to pass up cash.
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Speaker 1: So remember, you know, the Nancy Guthrie investigation is happening.
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Speaker 1: She remains missing. There's all kinds of important There's all
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Speaker 1: this cartel violence, you know, very very close to our
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Speaker 1: own southern border, and our FBI director Chugin' beers in
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Speaker 1: the locker room with Team USA. He claims he was
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Speaker 1: invited by some of the people that were there. I mean,
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Speaker 1: to be fair, they do look like they're excited to
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Speaker 1: see him. I know that he is a hockey enthusiast
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Speaker 1: and he does play on some rec leagues here in America.
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Speaker 1: But you know, just reminder, the FBI director did have
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Speaker 1: to take a very expensive private jet to Italy. Now
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Speaker 1: his spokesperson is saying that it was for official business.
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Speaker 1: It just so happened to align with Team USA and
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Speaker 1: the hockey team. It's been scheduled months in advance, So
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Speaker 1: that's what his spokesperson is saying out there and in
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Speaker 1: defense of the FBI director. But I'll let the visual
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Speaker 1: speak for itself. So yes, congratulations to Team USA, the
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Speaker 1: hockey team of both men and women. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I feel bad for them for having to pretend to
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Speaker 1: be happy in the presence of our FBI director.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I just thought, as we dive into our
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Speaker 2: show here, and keep in mind, we are podcasters, we
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Speaker 2: are not US government officials, and we seem to be
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Speaker 2: taking more seriously these investigations the possibility of war and
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Speaker 2: peace than either Cash Mattel, who so listen, as you know,
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Speaker 2: a former athlete. The part of it that annoyed me
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Speaker 2: the most is him seeming like he like somehow earned
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Speaker 2: this or was part of this victory in anyway. It's like, dude,
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Speaker 2: you are the living embodiment of mediocrity. The thing you
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Speaker 2: are most known for, and this is a bypart, truly
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Speaker 2: a unifying and bipartisan sentiment, is being the most incompetent
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Speaker 2: person that anyone has ever seen. So humiliating display there
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Speaker 2: and then we can also take a look here at
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Speaker 2: the Secretary of War Pete Hegsath, who put out this
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Speaker 2: video over the weekend claiming to have benched what was
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Speaker 2: it three point fifteen that susupposedly is okay? Now, immediately
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Speaker 2: the Jim Barrows sager jumped on this one and said,
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Speaker 2: this is literally not possible. There is there are some
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Speaker 2: for his weight category, some two hundred and twenty people
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Speaker 2: ever in the world at any time who've been able
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Speaker 2: to lift this amount of weight. So give us your analysis,
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Speaker 2: you know from what is the Jim bro community saying
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Speaker 2: there's whether or not this was fake.
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Speaker 1: So Jim bros say that it is technically possible and
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Speaker 1: it is theoretical. However, there have been multiple public instances,
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Speaker 1: for example the famous Chris Cuomo of people lifting fake weight.
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Speaker 1: So you can make up your minds for yourselves. I'm
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Speaker 1: calling for a full audit of the bench press and
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Speaker 1: for all of the people who are currently involved, but
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Speaker 1: more importantly for our purposes, as we showed you all before,
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Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth. Even let's say, if it is real, it's like, dude,
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Speaker 1: you're showing off your bench prowess in the middle of
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Speaker 1: preparations for war with Iran. Like this is not a
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Speaker 1: social club and this is not a game, right, And
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Speaker 1: so here's what you see from our national security officials.
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Speaker 1: And that's why we think, you know, this is one
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Speaker 1: of those this is important for people to flag as
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Speaker 1: we get into Yeah, like you said, podcasters, you got
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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson. Actually, I mean, you know, doing a better
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Speaker 1: job and grilling Mike Cockaby, the US ambassador. Is it's madness, Like,
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Speaker 1: it's actual madness.
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Speaker 2: And there's a little thing called the Epstein Files cover
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Speaker 2: up going on. Cash more than a little bit involved
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Speaker 2: in that. So rather than you know, investigating any of
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Speaker 2: the powerful men who could be implicated here in either
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Speaker 2: sex crimes or potential you know, insider trading, the type
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Speaker 2: of investigations we've seen in numerous other countries, this is
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Speaker 2: what he's spending not only his time but your tax
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Speaker 2: dollars exactly. So enjoy that, American, enjoy that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And don't forget, you know, his little interview with
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Speaker 1: his girlfriend on the Katie Miller podcast in the middle
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Speaker 1: of a major investigation, not to mention his little jacket
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Speaker 1: stunt of during the Charlie Kirk and the I mean,
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Speaker 1: who can forget I'll see you in Valhalla. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I guess I'm not going to get my cash Pattel
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Speaker 1: Challenge coin after this segment. But yeah, gosh, you know
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Speaker 1: I won't be able to add it to some of
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Speaker 1: the others I have from illustrious and actual warriors. So
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Speaker 1: I apologize, I guess for not being able to add
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Speaker 1: that to my collection.
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Speaker 3: Do we get to somebody who's actually doing the real work?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently, let's get to the real work. Let's get
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Speaker 1: to the real work. Tucker Carlson's extraordinary interview with the
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Speaker 1: US Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee. So many different important sections.
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Speaker 1: We've tried to pull many of them. Perhaps the most
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Speaker 1: important is senior US government official, US Ambassador to Israel,
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Speaker 1: representative of the Trump administration saying unequivocally Israel has a
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Speaker 1: right to the entire Middle East. Let's take a listen.
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Speaker 4: You've appealed to Genesis. Genesis fifteen says it's Abram, it's
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Speaker 4: pre Abraham. It's Abram receives from God the news that
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Speaker 4: his descendants will inherit the land. And you tell me,
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Speaker 4: as the theologian, if I'm getting this wrong. But from
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Speaker 4: the Euphrates to the Nile, I think that's right. And
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Speaker 4: that would include like basically the entire Middle East. That
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Speaker 4: would be the levant. So that would be Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon,
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Speaker 4: would also be big parts of Saudi Arabia and Iraq.
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Speaker 4: It would be I mean, I'm not sure you would
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Speaker 4: go that far. I mean, it would be a big
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Speaker 4: piece of land. But here's the point. It would be
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Speaker 4: a lot of places that are now countries that this
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Speaker 4: particular area that we're talking about now Israel is.
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Speaker 5: A land that God gave through Abraham to a people
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Speaker 5: that he chose. It was a people, a place, and
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Speaker 5: a purpose. We can look at it that way. Christian Zionism.
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Speaker 5: I want to go back because that's where we started.
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to let you off on this because
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Speaker 4: you have got it three times that God gave this
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Speaker 4: land to this people, and so it is entirely fair
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Speaker 4: for me with respect to ask what land are you
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Speaker 4: talking about because I just read Genesis fifteen, as I
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Speaker 4: have many times, and that land, I think it says
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Speaker 4: from the Nile to the Euphrates, which is once again
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Speaker 4: basically the entire Middle East. So God gave that land
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Speaker 4: to his people, the Jews, or he didn't. You're saying
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Speaker 4: he did. What does that mean? Does Israel have the
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Speaker 4: right to that land? Because you're appealing to Genesis, you're saying,
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Speaker 4: that's the original deed.
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Speaker 3: It would be fine if they took it all unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know the best park Crystal is. Later
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Speaker 1: on he goes, okay, do the Irish people have a
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Speaker 1: right to Ireland? He's like, there is no right. It's
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Speaker 1: by conquest. And you're like, well, hold on a second here,
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Speaker 1: you know what are we talking about. By the way,
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Speaker 1: this has sparked a full blown diplomatic crisis. Let's go
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Speaker 1: ahead and put a two up there on the screen
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Speaker 1: just so you all see the map of Greater Israel
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Speaker 1: and part of the project, if you will, and you
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Speaker 1: can see exactly what he's talking about, including vast swats
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Speaker 1: of Saudi Arabia. And you know, you even had a
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Speaker 1: huge diplomatic statement, you know, congratulations. Only Mike Huckabee could
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Speaker 1: unite the entire Middle East. Many of these countries you
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Speaker 1: hate each other. They hate each other with the fire
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Speaker 1: of a thousand sons, and yet they all had to
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Speaker 1: come together to issue a big diplomatic statement. Let's ahead
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Speaker 1: and put this up here on the screen. They say,
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Speaker 1: the ministries of all of these different countries, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: read them Jordan, Uae, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, Indonesia, Qatar, Lebanon, Kuwait, Pakistan, Bahrain, Oman,
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Speaker 1: Palastin and Syria, plus the Oice, the Arab League and
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Speaker 1: the Gulf States all say they unequivocally condemn the Greater
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Speaker 1: Israel endorsement there of the Ambassador Mike Huckabee. This is
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Speaker 1: the humiliation ritual, is that we have this special country.
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Speaker 1: It has a right to exist because of Genesis. If
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Speaker 1: you're Ireland, screw you. It's about your right to conquests.
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Speaker 1: It's the only country in the whole world apparently where
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Speaker 1: the right of conquest does not apply. And that's the
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Speaker 1: madness through which our policy is currently flowing. And I
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Speaker 1: actually think that the next one on genetics makes it
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Speaker 1: even crazier.
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Speaker 2: Crystal Well, I mean just to pause on this one,
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Speaker 2: because people like you and I who've been talking about
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Speaker 2: the Greater Israel project and saying, hey, guys, look at
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Speaker 2: the number of countries that they're bombed, look at the
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Speaker 2: maps that they put, look at what they talked. Listen
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Speaker 2: to the settlers, because they're the ones who will say
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Speaker 2: it outright.
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Speaker 3: They're serious about this thing.
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Speaker 2: Okay, we were treated like anti Semit's conspiracy theorists, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: This is the US ambassador to Israel. Is this US policy?
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Speaker 2: Is this what our policy is? Because that seems like
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Speaker 2: an important question to ask and know the answer to.
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Speaker 2: And then the other thing I have to pause on
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Speaker 2: here as we're potentially heading into war with Iran. You know,
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Speaker 2: one of the things that we hear all about the
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Speaker 2: Iranians is are so irrational because they're these religious zealots
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Speaker 2: and they're this you know, theocratic author authoritarian regime, and
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Speaker 2: so you know, they can't be reasoned with because they're
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Speaker 2: irrational because of these you know, with this extreme religious
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Speaker 2: religiosity that they rule the country with.
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Speaker 3: Like, what the fuck is this? I mean, what do
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Speaker 3: you call this?
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Speaker 2: We're using biblical scripture to erase international law certainly to
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Speaker 2: erase the of nation states. I thought this wasn't a
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Speaker 2: mystery to the carried and awful lot about borders. Turns out,
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Speaker 2: when it comes to Israel's ability to invade and you know,
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Speaker 2: brutally take over whatever areas, they feel like that's no
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Speaker 2: problem whatsoever. So an extraordinary and very significant moment which
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Speaker 2: again has major spillover effects as look, these countries, they're
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Speaker 2: genuinely pissed off right in the region for understandable reasons.
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Speaker 2: And it may end up that this comment from Huckabee
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Speaker 2: helps to forestall war with the run because we need
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Speaker 2: a bunch of these countries cooperation for you know, for
12:38
Speaker 2: launching attacks, for defense, a bunch of bases located in
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Speaker 2: the region, et cetera. And so if you have them
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Speaker 2: pissed off ahead of this action, you know you're not
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Speaker 2: going to get the level of cooperation that perhaps you
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Speaker 2: would need for the grand scale that Trump is is
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Speaker 2: potentially planning. Now I'm not gonna like place all my
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Speaker 2: hopes in that bucket, but certainly like a truly significant
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Speaker 2: development that the Iranians, by the way, are already talking
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Speaker 2: about and already mentioning to say, look, see this is
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Speaker 2: the it's the Epstein class driving US towards war. The
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Speaker 2: Greater Israel project is real, Like, come on, Arab states,
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Speaker 2: you really want to be part of this coalition?
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Speaker 3: Is this what you've signed on for?
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they still did sign on
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Speaker 1: for it, considering their own humiliation ritual. But it is
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Speaker 1: instructive and illustrative of the current relationship and the sure
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Speaker 1: you know, psychopathy of the people who are in charge.
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Speaker 1: This next one on genetics is equally revealing. It is
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Speaker 1: an entire challenge about who has the right to the
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Speaker 1: land based on their blood and you know, Mike Huckabee
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Speaker 1: seems completely unable to grapple with let's say, Eastern European uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, Eastern European or descendants who are living in
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Speaker 1: Israel versus Palestinian people who have been present on the
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Speaker 1: land for some thousands of years, and whether or not
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Speaker 1: they have rights to exist on that land and by
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Speaker 1: their logic, now again this is their internal logic about
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Speaker 1: blood and soil inside the country of Israel. But here's
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Speaker 1: Mike how could be literally speechless on the question regarding
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Speaker 1: Bibi net and Yahoo and others. Let's take a.
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Speaker 4: Listen, dodging obvious question, which is where does this right
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Speaker 4: come from?
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Speaker 6: And the reason it's meaning for you?
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Speaker 4: That is because there are a lot of people in
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Speaker 4: the territory that Israel controls today, particularly in the West Bank, who,
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Speaker 4: through genetic testing, we can know their families have been
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Speaker 4: here for thousands of years. We don't know whether they
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Speaker 4: practice Judaism, whether they were Smaritans pre Islam. We don't
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Speaker 4: know that. A lot of them we know have been
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Speaker 4: Christians for two thousand years. They have less of a
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Speaker 4: right to the land than someone who's ancestors. The only
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Speaker 4: thing we know about them is they lived in Latvia
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Speaker 4: or poland their Eastern European.
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Speaker 6: How does that work? They're Jewish by what definition? They're
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Speaker 6: Jewish by their But how do we know they have
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Speaker 6: any the city?
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Speaker 5: They're Jewish faith, They're Jewish by the connection to the language,
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Speaker 5: Jewish by the connection to the Torah.
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Speaker 4: But but how do we know that Bibe, specifically Bbe's
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Speaker 4: ancestors ever lived here.
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Speaker 6: How do we know that?
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if I understand your question, how.
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Speaker 4: Do we know if the prime minister of Israel's ancestors ever.
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Speaker 6: Lived Maybe I could ask you how do we know
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Speaker 6: they didn't. I mean, it's on the basis of the
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Speaker 6: claim that they did that.
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Speaker 4: All kinds of things happen, people are displaced, there's a
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Speaker 4: money flow, I mean, there's it's a big question.
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Speaker 6: A lot hangs on this.
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Speaker 4: It's not some theoretical thing like oh, you know, do
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Speaker 4: my grandparents do this or do that. It's like, no, no,
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Speaker 4: we have a right to be here because my ancestors
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Speaker 4: were here. Okay, how do we know they were here?
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Speaker 5: I'm just totally unable to process what you're trying to
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Speaker 5: get at.
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Speaker 2: I think I know what he was trying to get
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Speaker 2: out there, see a little bit, and I think.
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Speaker 3: He just doesn't want a grapple with it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 3: I mean I've said this before.
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Speaker 2: You know, my children's father is Jewish, and they have,
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Speaker 2: you know, more of a right by Israeli's views to
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Speaker 2: live there and have the land than people who have
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Speaker 2: lived there for genuinely thousands of years. Now, obviously, I'm
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Speaker 2: a leftist. I believe in universal rights. I don't subscribe
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Speaker 2: to this blood and soil view of a nation. But
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Speaker 2: as you said, Sager, this is their justification. They they
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Speaker 2: are claiming these ancestral ties to the region, so it's
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Speaker 2: entirely legitimate to say, Okay, well, let's tease the sound
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Speaker 2: a little bit, because I think most people think about like,
16:38
Speaker 2: you know, somebody who lives in Brooklyn and just going
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Speaker 2: over and like stealing land from a family that's been there,
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Speaker 2: you know, one hundreds of not thousands of years, would say,
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Speaker 2: this is this is not really fair, This is not
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Speaker 2: really moral, this is not really logical. So completely fair
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Speaker 2: to push on that, and especially you know, Hukabi also
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Speaker 2: talks about how there's not just Jewish people coming from
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Speaker 2: Eastern Europe with that ancestry, there's also people who are
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Speaker 2: indigenous to the region. That is certainly the case, but
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Speaker 2: we also know in this part of what we learned
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Speaker 2: in the Epstein files that there is a deeply racist
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Speaker 2: system even of you know, amongst different Jewish people within Israel.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Aude, Barack laid it out there. He's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: we don't want the right type of Jew. We won
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Speaker 1: the right type of Jew coming into Israel. We don't
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Speaker 1: want these miss what do you say, mis Rahi Jews
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Speaker 1: coming in?
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Speaker 3: He said, we did.
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Speaker 2: We had to take the ones from Africa early on,
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Speaker 2: but now we could pick the right type of Jew
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Speaker 2: and he preferred people who were new converts in Russia.
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Speaker 2: Who have you know, then probably zero ties to the
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Speaker 2: land over those you know, you know, people that we
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Speaker 2: had to take in from these other regions that we
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Speaker 2: look down upon.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, pretty disgusting now, I guess, you know, at
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Speaker 1: the very least. Now turning to our own country, perhaps
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Speaker 1: the most important question, why did the US ambassador invite
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Speaker 1: convicted spy Jonathan Pollard into the US embassy? Mike Huckabee
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Speaker 1: claims it was a thirty minute meeting that was scheduled
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Speaker 1: just so Pollard could thank Huckaby for being nice to
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Speaker 1: his then deceased wife. But here's the new drawdown really
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Speaker 1: into the logic of inviting Pollard into the embassy in
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Speaker 1: the first place. Let's take a listen.
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Speaker 4: So this was the most profound betrayal of the United
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Speaker 4: States in my lifetime. Why advocate for that guy's release
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Speaker 4: before he serves as full sentence.
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Speaker 5: If that were the case in twenty eleven, it would
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Speaker 5: have been because I had a number of friends. It
18:36
Speaker 5: suggested that he had more than served time, and he
18:38
Speaker 5: didn't want to live in the US anymore. He wanted
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Speaker 5: to live in Israel. But my association with him. Again,
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Speaker 5: I had never met him until I met him in
18:47
Speaker 5: Jerusalem at a hotel. That was the first time I
18:49
Speaker 5: had ever encountered him.
18:50
Speaker 4: But why meet with him in the US embassy? Your
18:53
Speaker 4: colleague said they were shocked. They said, who were the
18:55
Speaker 4: colleagues that said they were shocked? Quoted on background in
18:58
Speaker 4: the New York Times, I think the meeting in August,
19:02
Speaker 4: this could all be fake.
19:03
Speaker 6: That's why I'm asking you.
19:04
Speaker 5: Well, the same New York Times said it was a
19:06
Speaker 5: secret meeting, and I'm telling you there's no such thing
19:08
Speaker 5: as a secret meeting in the US Embassy.
19:10
Speaker 4: You see why the US ambassador hosting a convicted betrayer
19:14
Speaker 4: of his own country, who's encouraging Americans to continue to
19:17
Speaker 4: betray their country, would seem shocking.
19:20
Speaker 5: Well, I would say that it wasn't that. You make
19:24
Speaker 5: it sound like I'm hosting a meeting. I simply met
19:26
Speaker 5: with him. I meet with people all the time. Someone
19:29
Speaker 5: just walk in without a no, they have to have
19:31
Speaker 5: an appointment, of course they do.
19:32
Speaker 6: Oh, so it is hosting them that I think.
19:34
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if it was hosting, but it
19:35
Speaker 5: was certainly he was able to come to the US
19:39
Speaker 5: Embassy to have a meeting at his request, I did,
19:42
Speaker 5: and frankly, I don't regret it.
19:44
Speaker 1: I don't regret it whether he hosted. Look at this
19:48
Speaker 1: little weasel trying to get out of the fact that
19:50
Speaker 1: he did host him. And you know, at this point,
19:52
Speaker 1: I don't even expect anything more from my Kuckabee. This
19:56
Speaker 1: is the humiliation ritual of this administration. Who or is
20:00
Speaker 1: this behavior? They're putting people in charge over at the
20:04
Speaker 1: US Embassy who do not see any issue with literally
20:07
Speaker 1: inviting a convicted spy back on to US soil. And
20:10
Speaker 1: Jonathan Pollard, let's not forget not just his original crime,
20:14
Speaker 1: which was heinous and as Tucker pointed out in the interview,
20:16
Speaker 1: passed on information which was then passed on to the
20:19
Speaker 1: Soviet Union. He has since encouraged all Jews in the
20:23
Speaker 1: United States to spy for the state of Israel. He
20:25
Speaker 1: has said publicly that Israel should threaten nuclear weapons against
20:30
Speaker 1: the against the United States if we encourage them to
20:33
Speaker 1: do a ceasefire. He attacked, by the way, even in
20:36
Speaker 1: terms of MAGA logic. He hates Trump for forcing the
20:40
Speaker 1: first cease fire on Israel in the early days of
20:43
Speaker 1: the administration. This is who this guy is. It is
20:45
Speaker 1: as clear cut dual loyalty or I know, sorry, single loyalty.
20:49
Speaker 1: As it gets to this, you know, to this state
20:52
Speaker 1: and you're inviting this person who you advocated for their release.
20:56
Speaker 1: And even in the beginning, he's like, oh, well, many
20:59
Speaker 1: people say he shouldn't have to serve such a lot. Yeah,
21:02
Speaker 1: those people are all bought off by Israel, by the
21:04
Speaker 1: Israel lobby. Real intelligence officials said, you cannot pardon this
21:08
Speaker 1: guy ever, you cannot release him early. You have to
21:12
Speaker 1: send a message that we treat all spies the same.
21:14
Speaker 1: He's the only spy that anybody did anybody try to
21:17
Speaker 1: get older James out of prison early? No, or I'm
21:20
Speaker 1: forgetting the guy from the FBI's name. But I mean,
21:23
Speaker 1: both of these guys, they've rotted and died in prison.
21:25
Speaker 7: Good.
21:26
Speaker 1: And then with this person, you know, oh, and he
21:28
Speaker 1: gets facilitated to Israel, it gets like special treatment, released
21:32
Speaker 1: from his parole by the Trump administration in the first term.
21:35
Speaker 1: And now this it's just too much like the humiliation
21:38
Speaker 1: ritual all around here. It disgusts me as an American.
21:43
Speaker 3: It's kind of amazing to me too.
21:44
Speaker 2: I mean, Hukkabi does not dispute any of Tucker's characterization
21:48
Speaker 2: of who Pollard is, of what he said, of the
21:51
Speaker 2: fact that he continues to advocate for, you know, choosing
21:54
Speaker 2: this country to betray this country. He doesn't dispute any
21:57
Speaker 2: of that. He decides that his best defense is to
22:00
Speaker 2: quibble over the terminology of whether or not he hosted
22:03
Speaker 2: him at the embassy. It's like or whether it was
22:06
Speaker 2: really technically a secret meeting or not, as if that
22:09
Speaker 2: makes any difference whatsoever to the reality of what unfolded here.
22:14
Speaker 2: And you know, it surprises me that he doesn't have
22:15
Speaker 2: a better defense, given the fact that this was actually
22:18
Speaker 2: the spark of the you know, the sort of like
22:20
Speaker 2: war of words between him and Tucker Carlson. This was
22:24
Speaker 2: really justis of it. So we surely knew that he
22:26
Speaker 2: was going to be questioned about it. But I guess
22:28
Speaker 2: the answer is there really just isn't a good defense.
22:30
Speaker 2: The best you can do is say, well, I didn't
22:32
Speaker 2: really host him. I mean, yeah, we had a meeting,
22:34
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't call it hosting him. And then it's like, well,
22:37
Speaker 2: you can't just show up at the embassy and get
22:40
Speaker 2: a meeting within that.
22:41
Speaker 1: Ye, ambassador, Yes, let's do it right right, I'll fly tomorrow, brother.
22:47
Speaker 2: So yeah, And you know clearly he thinks that his
22:50
Speaker 2: little trick of being like, oh well it was the
22:52
Speaker 2: fake New York Times on background, blah blah blah, might work,
22:57
Speaker 2: It might do enough to muddy the waters. But Tuck,
23:00
Speaker 2: or very cleverly, is like, okay, well maybe it's all lie.
23:02
Speaker 2: You could tell me, tell me what actually happened. Let's
23:05
Speaker 2: get into it. We don't have to take the New
23:06
Speaker 2: York Times word for it. You're sitting right here.
23:09
Speaker 1: So discussing last one. This one. Look, this is a
23:13
Speaker 1: common talking point I hear from the IDF defenders in
23:16
Speaker 1: the United States. It never fails to discuss me more.
23:20
Speaker 1: You can say a lot about the United States military.
23:23
Speaker 1: Hundreds of Americans died to protect Iraqi and Afghanistan lives
23:28
Speaker 1: in the War on Terror. Now, we shouldn't have been
23:30
Speaker 1: there in the first place. I want to be clear.
23:32
Speaker 1: We should never have been there. They should never have
23:34
Speaker 1: been put into that position. But once they were, their
23:37
Speaker 1: lives were on the line, and in many cases they
23:39
Speaker 1: died to prevent civilian casualties to try at many times,
23:43
Speaker 1: sometimes yes, failing, but oftentimes living up to the expectation
23:47
Speaker 1: that we will not conduct war in a certain way.
23:49
Speaker 1: So when I hear this bullshit from senior American officials,
23:52
Speaker 1: every US service member, if you're listening to this, he
23:55
Speaker 1: insulted you, He insulted your command. He insulted every GWOT
23:59
Speaker 1: veteran when he said that the IDF is more humane
24:03
Speaker 1: than the United States military. Let's take a lessen Israel.
24:06
Speaker 5: Goes to links that no other country, including ours, goes
24:09
Speaker 5: to in the middle of an urban war, and yet
24:13
Speaker 5: Israel ended up with fewer civilian deaths in an urban
24:17
Speaker 5: war than any urban war of records.
24:20
Speaker 6: You said, you didn't know how many civilian does there worse?
24:22
Speaker 5: So how can you say that if you took Gaza's numbers,
24:25
Speaker 5: hamas Is numbers.
24:26
Speaker 6: Said, we just told me that, how can you say
24:29
Speaker 6: it's a lower number.
24:30
Speaker 5: But if you to the largest numbers that have been
24:33
Speaker 5: reported out of Gaza by Hamas, Yes, let's assume they're true.
24:37
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying they are true,
24:40
Speaker 5: but assume they're true. Let's just take them.
24:42
Speaker 6: At their word.
24:43
Speaker 5: Then you still have a lower number of civilians killed
24:47
Speaker 5: than in any urban warfare environment in modern history?
24:51
Speaker 6: Fact? Is that a fact?
24:53
Speaker 7: Yes?
24:54
Speaker 6: What are you comparing it to.
24:56
Speaker 5: To any urban war?
24:58
Speaker 7: One?
25:00
Speaker 5: We're in Afghanistan and you pretended are alleged that somehow
25:04
Speaker 5: I'm not loyal to this and that I'm friticizing.
25:07
Speaker 4: A better job than the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan.
25:11
Speaker 6: And I said, what are the numbers? And you said,
25:13
Speaker 6: I don't know.
25:15
Speaker 4: So on what basis are you making the claim that
25:17
Speaker 4: the IDF and GAZA spared more civilians than the US
25:22
Speaker 4: Army and Marine Corps did in Afghanistan and Iraq? Why
25:25
Speaker 4: are you saying that? Like, on what basis are you
25:28
Speaker 4: saying that.
25:29
Speaker 5: From the conversations that I've had with the people who
25:31
Speaker 5: fought there, And I don't have the exact numbers for you.
25:35
Speaker 2: Imagine making that claim and then not even having some
25:38
Speaker 2: bullshit numbers.
25:39
Speaker 1: Yea, they do, you know the numbers. Look, you know, Tucker,
25:41
Speaker 1: if you watch the interview, I actually recommend you watched
25:44
Speaker 1: the entire segment, because it's not just the interview. He
25:46
Speaker 1: does a good preamble. First of all, he dispels that
25:48
Speaker 1: bullshit myth about the detention. It was an actual detention.
25:53
Speaker 1: If you listen, and they haven't even disputed. They were
25:55
Speaker 1: asking the producers where they work, who they work with,
25:58
Speaker 1: who they text, They took their passport, They're menacing them.
26:02
Speaker 1: I mean, this was serious. It was an actual like
26:04
Speaker 1: intelligence gathering operation. And remember none of that is disputed
26:09
Speaker 1: currently by IDF authorities. They're saying, yeah, it's routine, we
26:12
Speaker 1: always harass international journalists. Remember that. So the description not
26:16
Speaker 1: only of the interview itself, but he said his main takeaway,
26:19
Speaker 1: this man is not working for the United States. He
26:21
Speaker 1: was like, when I interviewed this person, he is controlled.
26:24
Speaker 1: Every answer was sensitive, and he seemed to be working
26:27
Speaker 1: on behalf of the Israeli government. I don't think that
26:29
Speaker 1: you could come away with a different conclusion. And the
26:31
Speaker 1: only conclusion is if that's the case, what does that
26:34
Speaker 1: say about our government, about the people that are supposed
26:38
Speaker 1: to serve us. I mean again, I want to say,
26:40
Speaker 1: how can you let a spy on US soil and
26:44
Speaker 1: keep your job? It's insane. How can you, as the ambassador,
26:48
Speaker 1: do an interview where you spark a diplomatic crisis with
26:52
Speaker 1: all of these Middle Eastern countries and keep your job?
26:56
Speaker 1: How can you insult the United States military and keep
27:00
Speaker 1: it's like, over and over and over again, you are
27:03
Speaker 1: working on behalf of this foreign country. It's like you're
27:05
Speaker 1: a pr agent for this foreign country. And his tweets
27:09
Speaker 1: after have just been absolutely badshit crazy, Like, let's go
27:14
Speaker 1: and put some of these on the screen. Guys, we
27:16
Speaker 1: have the vo like he's tweeted like dozens of times
27:20
Speaker 1: about Laura.
27:20
Speaker 3: Lumer endlessly copin. It's just endless cope on the time.
27:25
Speaker 2: Dawson tells you how he knows that this interview went
27:29
Speaker 2: for him because if you have one side in the interview,
27:32
Speaker 2: that's having to just like endlessly cope and put on
27:35
Speaker 2: this statement, in that statement and amplify this person or
27:38
Speaker 2: that person who said something positive about their side of
27:40
Speaker 2: the interview. You know, they're trying to overcome something that
27:44
Speaker 2: went very poorly for that.
27:45
Speaker 1: And can we talk about the you know, we talked
27:47
Speaker 1: about the Olympics. He you know, is making the Jewish
27:51
Speaker 1: ancestry of one of the guys who scores the goal
27:54
Speaker 1: in Team USA's game. He goes, what the guy scoring
27:58
Speaker 1: goal for first USA gold medal is a Jew? Oh my,
28:01
Speaker 1: I'm sure the jew haters will say Massad was behind it.
28:04
Speaker 1: I just say, celebrate the incredible victory for USA and
28:08
Speaker 1: be grateful for his love for the USA and this team. Dude,
28:11
Speaker 1: you're the one making it about him being Jewish. I
28:13
Speaker 1: didn't even know who was Jewish. Did anybody know who
28:16
Speaker 1: he was Jewish? Nobody even cares he's Jewish.
28:18
Speaker 2: Some of us do not have our minds so warped
28:22
Speaker 2: that we are constantly fixated on various identity or sectarian differences.
28:27
Speaker 2: I mean, woke does not hold a candle right to
28:30
Speaker 2: Zionists and the way that they, you know, view the
28:33
Speaker 2: world through this hard sectarian lens. And you know, this
28:38
Speaker 2: whole interview with Huckabee just really underscores the fact that
28:42
Speaker 2: the firmus, the most fervent supporters of whatever Israel wants
28:47
Speaker 2: Israel gets, are Christian Ziant Zionists. So you know, for
28:51
Speaker 2: all the people who want to say, like, oh, you're
28:53
Speaker 2: anti Semitic if you criticize blah blah blah, and you
28:57
Speaker 2: know this is Israel is directly linked to Jewish people
29:00
Speaker 2: and only Jewish people. And that's you know, if you
29:03
Speaker 2: were criticizing Israel, criticizing Jewish people, no, like, look at
29:07
Speaker 2: the actual coalition of supporters here, right, Christian Zionists. Genuinely,
29:12
Speaker 2: if you pull the Jewish popula, yes there's a you know,
29:14
Speaker 2: significant attachment to Israel, but it is far from lockstep,
29:18
Speaker 2: especially if you look at younger generations. And you know,
29:21
Speaker 2: the last thing I do want to say about like
29:23
Speaker 2: the most moral army thing is like I feel like
29:25
Speaker 2: israelis don't even claim that anymore. It's so ridiculous at
29:29
Speaker 2: this point, right, put aside, you know, the civilian death
29:33
Speaker 2: ratios are very contested in both places. I think the
29:36
Speaker 2: clearest numbers say it was overwhelmingly civilians who were mass
29:40
Speaker 2: slaughtered in Gaza. But even if you don't want to
29:42
Speaker 2: believe those numbers, look, Abu Grabe was a scandal in
29:46
Speaker 2: the US, and the reason it was a scandal is
29:49
Speaker 2: because we actually expected something more from our soldiers, from
29:53
Speaker 2: our military, whereas in Israel they had protests over the
29:58
Speaker 2: right of IDF soul to rape their prisoners. Okay, that
30:03
Speaker 2: is a very clear moral contrast. And I am a
30:06
Speaker 2: vociferous critic of the way we conduct her of the
30:09
Speaker 2: wars themselves, and the way we conducted ourselves in those wars,
30:13
Speaker 2: but we didn't institute a complete.
30:15
Speaker 3: And total siege.
30:16
Speaker 2: We didn't brag about how we're going to starve people
30:18
Speaker 2: to death if they didn't comply.
30:21
Speaker 3: We didn't destroy routinely.
30:23
Speaker 2: There were hospitals that were destroyed, but we did not
30:26
Speaker 2: make it a policy of mass destroying hospitals, churches, schools,
30:31
Speaker 2: all of civilian infrastructure.
30:33
Speaker 3: Okay, so I don't know.
30:35
Speaker 2: It's incredible to me that he's even still pushing that
30:38
Speaker 2: narrative because I don't even think Israel.
30:40
Speaker 3: I don't even hear is Raeley's talking about that anymore.
30:42
Speaker 1: It's all just complete nonsense. Okay, we've got Jeffrey Sachs
30:45
Speaker 1: standing by. Let's get to it. Joining us now, is
30:50
Speaker 1: Professor Jeffrey Sachs, a great friend of the show, to
30:52
Speaker 1: discuss the ongoing situation with Iran, maybe some tariffs. Sarah,
30:55
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us again.
30:57
Speaker 7: It's good to see you, great to be with you.
30:58
Speaker 7: Thanks a lot.
30:59
Speaker 1: Well, let's kick it off. Unfortunately, we just did a
31:02
Speaker 1: long segment about Ambassador Mike Huckabee. But one of the
31:05
Speaker 1: more consequential answers was on war with Iran. Even though
31:09
Speaker 1: the American people opposed this war, and he says that, yes,
31:13
Speaker 1: you know, we do live in a democracy and our
31:15
Speaker 1: peon brains they do matter somewhat. But also, policy considerations
31:20
Speaker 1: cannot be conducted by Paul. Let's take a listen to that.
31:23
Speaker 1: We'll get your reaction and get into all the details.
31:25
Speaker 6: How much does it matter what americans think?
31:28
Speaker 5: Well, it matters every bit what americans think. That's why
31:31
Speaker 5: americans vote. It's why Americans have the opportunity to have
31:34
Speaker 5: free speech. We want him to have that.
31:35
Speaker 6: Okay, So what percentage of Americans support a war with
31:38
Speaker 6: the Run? I don't know, do you know?
31:41
Speaker 7: I do it?
31:41
Speaker 4: I think it's run. I saw the numbers yesterday within
31:43
Speaker 4: it was like twenty one percent. Ok Is that enough
31:47
Speaker 4: to have a war with run.
31:49
Speaker 5: We don't live in a world where you have a
31:53
Speaker 5: poll taken to find out whether our policy should be
31:56
Speaker 5: a particular direction.
31:57
Speaker 6: Because I thought you just said that. No, we care
32:01
Speaker 6: deeply about it.
32:02
Speaker 5: But on the other hand, do we make the decisions
32:05
Speaker 5: of foreign policy and even domestic policy based on.
32:08
Speaker 6: We care lately about it? What sense?
32:11
Speaker 1: So we don't actually care about it, professor, So our
32:14
Speaker 1: very own interests and thoughts on the matter don't appear
32:18
Speaker 1: in our own government. Just give us your general reaction
32:21
Speaker 1: here to the ambassador potential now war with Iran and
32:24
Speaker 1: the destabilization to our world order.
32:28
Speaker 8: Well, in general, Huckabee should resign immediately, not for the
32:33
Speaker 8: segment that you played, but for the segment that if
32:36
Speaker 8: Israel takes over much of the Middle East, that's just fine.
32:40
Speaker 8: The United States government should immediately repudiate what he said.
32:47
Speaker 8: I think that every Arab nation in the Middle East
32:52
Speaker 8: that has been subject to Israeli US war since Netnyau,
32:58
Speaker 8: who came to office in the mid nineteen nineties, should
33:01
Speaker 8: call in the US ambassador immediately and ask if this
33:05
Speaker 8: is US policy. By the way, it may well be
33:07
Speaker 8: US policy, because US policy is dictated by the Zionist lobby.
33:13
Speaker 8: And this is not an outrageous statement, this is a
33:16
Speaker 8: literal statement. This is and Huckabee, by the way, he
33:20
Speaker 8: is a core part of that lobby. He is the
33:24
Speaker 8: quintessential Christian Zionist, biblical fundamentalist who wants to determine American
33:30
Speaker 8: policy not by what Americans think, not by international law,
33:35
Speaker 8: not by American security, but by his reading of a
33:38
Speaker 8: biblical passage from two thy five hundred years ago. The
33:42
Speaker 8: man needs to leave his job immediately. He's a disgrace.
33:47
Speaker 8: But worse than that, what he said needs to be
33:50
Speaker 8: repudiated by the United States government immediately.
33:54
Speaker 7: Is that our policy?
33:56
Speaker 8: If it is our policy stated so, then the American
33:59
Speaker 8: people won't know that we are led by the most
34:03
Speaker 8: dangerous kind of delusion imaginable if that is not our
34:09
Speaker 8: policy stated that it is not our policy.
34:13
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and put the latest at New York
34:15
Speaker 2: Times reporting up here on the screen about whether or
34:18
Speaker 2: not we are headed to war with Iran. Their attempt
34:21
Speaker 2: to divine the latest thinking from Trump. The headline here
34:25
Speaker 2: Trump considers targeted strike against Iran followed by a larger attack.
34:28
Speaker 2: So I guess we're in for two wars instead of
34:30
Speaker 2: one now, they say in part here, President Trump has
34:33
Speaker 2: told advisors if diplomacy or any initial targeted US attack
34:36
Speaker 2: does not lead Iran to give into his demands that
34:39
Speaker 2: give up its nuclear program, he'll consider a much bigger
34:41
Speaker 2: attack in coming months, intended to drive that country's leaders
34:45
Speaker 2: from power. People briefed on internal administration deliberations said, in addition,
34:49
Speaker 2: in this article, they lay out one potential proposal to
34:54
Speaker 2: allow Iran to have some limited enrichment program for purposes
34:59
Speaker 2: of research alone, and they're sort of holding this out
35:02
Speaker 2: like maybe that would be fase saving for both the
35:04
Speaker 2: Iranians and the Americans. You know, what is your sense
35:07
Speaker 2: of how real this diplomacy is and how likely we
35:09
Speaker 2: are to be headed back into war with Iran.
35:13
Speaker 7: Again?
35:13
Speaker 8: This is like being in a delusional dream world. Iran
35:19
Speaker 8: has said that it does not want a nuclear weapon,
35:24
Speaker 8: and it is said so for decades, and it is
35:27
Speaker 8: negotiated in that point for decades, and everybody watching.
35:32
Speaker 7: Should appreciate that.
35:34
Speaker 8: An agreement was reached in twenty fifteen called the Joint
35:38
Speaker 8: Comprehensive Plan of Action the JCPOA, which was reached in
35:42
Speaker 8: twenty fifteen and unanimously adopted by the United Nations Security Council.
35:48
Speaker 8: It's an agreement of the P five, the permanent five
35:51
Speaker 8: members of the Security Council, the United States, Britain, France, Russia,
35:57
Speaker 8: and China plus Germany, in which the International Atomic Agency
36:03
Speaker 8: would rigorously monitor any activities of Iran's nuclear program to
36:11
Speaker 8: ensure that there was no nuclear weapons program, exactly what
36:15
Speaker 8: Iran has said that it is its policy and.
36:19
Speaker 7: Which agreed to rigorous monitoring.
36:22
Speaker 8: Now what happened well, Trump, because he is a pawn
36:29
Speaker 8: of net Yahoo ripped it up when he came into office.
36:34
Speaker 8: Trump did the bidding of the Israeli government. Why did
36:38
Speaker 8: the Israeli government want this ripped up? Because this has
36:41
Speaker 8: never been about nuclear weapons. This has been about Israel's
36:46
Speaker 8: regional hegemony in the Middle East. Israel wants to topple
36:51
Speaker 8: the Iranian regime period it has said. So this is
36:54
Speaker 8: not a mystery, This is not my claim. This is
36:58
Speaker 8: Israeli policy repeated year in year out. The whole idea
37:04
Speaker 8: that Trump is negotiating to prevent Iran from getting a
37:08
Speaker 8: nuclear weapon. Uh, that was negotiated. Trump ripped it up.
37:14
Speaker 8: The Iranians have come back every year to say, we
37:17
Speaker 8: don't want a nuclear weapon, we want negotiations. The United
37:21
Speaker 8: States does not accept yes for an answer because it
37:26
Speaker 8: works for the government of Israel. This is the point.
37:30
Speaker 8: Why does it work for the government of Israel. It's
37:33
Speaker 8: a little hard to understand, maybe because it's of Mike
37:37
Speaker 8: Huckleby's parishioners, because of the people who read the Bible
37:42
Speaker 8: and say, Okay, that's our foreign policy.
37:44
Speaker 7: That's possible.
37:46
Speaker 8: It may be because of what's in the Epstein files
37:48
Speaker 8: that haven't been released. It may be blackmail, it may
37:52
Speaker 8: be corruption, may be many other things, but it is
37:55
Speaker 8: not about America's interests. We have no interest whatsoever in
38:00
Speaker 8: going to a war with Iran right now. If there
38:04
Speaker 8: is such a war, it's a war because Israel has
38:07
Speaker 8: told the United States what to do. And that raises
38:11
Speaker 8: a question, why has the United States done what Israel
38:14
Speaker 8: has told the United States to do for thirty years?
38:18
Speaker 8: And I don't just mean about Iran, I mean across
38:22
Speaker 8: the Middle East. Why did the United States bamb Libya
38:26
Speaker 8: in twenty eleven? Why did Obama make it presidential finding
38:31
Speaker 8: that the CIA should topple Bashar al a Sad in
38:34
Speaker 8: twenty twelve Operation Timber Sycamore. Why did the United States
38:39
Speaker 8: follow Netanyahu's lead to attack and invade Iraq in two
38:45
Speaker 8: thousand and three, not on wrong premises, but on false pretenses.
38:52
Speaker 8: Because Israel has had the policy that the United States
38:57
Speaker 8: should clear the way of any government in the Middle
39:02
Speaker 8: East that opposes Israel's hegemony. Is that our policy? It
39:08
Speaker 8: should not be our policy. That's a policy of endless war.
39:13
Speaker 8: That's a policy that has cost American seven trillion dollars
39:18
Speaker 8: in wars, that never had to take place, and that's
39:21
Speaker 8: the policy that is pushing us to war with Iran.
39:26
Speaker 8: Right now, why do you think bab Natnau showed up
39:30
Speaker 8: again in the White House just a few days ago?
39:32
Speaker 8: He had to make sure that his vassal, mister Trump
39:36
Speaker 8: would do the right thing in BB's terms. That by
39:42
Speaker 8: that I mean the wrong thing.
39:44
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, professor, I do want to get your reaction.
39:46
Speaker 1: You're just talking about false pretenses. We have a new
39:48
Speaker 1: false pretense. We have the supposed negotiator who I had
39:52
Speaker 1: some initial high hopes for, Steve Wikoff, who has now
39:54
Speaker 1: turned into a complete disappointment, took to the American airwaves
39:58
Speaker 1: and is now claiming that despite Operation Midnight Hammer some
40:02
Speaker 1: seven months ago, where we supposedly wiped out Iranian capabilities,
40:06
Speaker 1: they are now close to quote an industrial grade bomb. Mac,
40:11
Speaker 1: can we go ahead and queue that one up? Still
40:14
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what industrial grade bomb means. Let's
40:16
Speaker 1: take a listen. We have red lines here from the US.
40:20
Speaker 6: How about over with the wrong The.
40:21
Speaker 9: President asked me that this morning, and he's I don't
40:24
Speaker 9: want to use the word frustrated, it's almost because he
40:27
Speaker 9: understands he's got plenty of alternatives. But it's curious.
40:30
Speaker 6: He's curious as to.
40:32
Speaker 10: Why they haven't. I don't want to use the word capitulated,
40:36
Speaker 10: but why they haven't capitulated. Why under this sort of pressure,
40:41
Speaker 10: with the amount of seat power, naval power that we
40:45
Speaker 10: have over there, why they haven't come to us and said,
40:47
Speaker 10: we profess that we don't want to we don't want
40:49
Speaker 10: a weapon.
40:50
Speaker 9: So here's what we're prepared to do. And yet it's
40:52
Speaker 9: hard to sort of get them to that place.
40:55
Speaker 1: So he's saying, they're weeks away from industrial grade bomb
40:57
Speaker 1: and we just are so frustrated. Why do they capitulate?
41:01
Speaker 1: You know, why use to capitulate?
41:04
Speaker 8: First of all, they don't want a weapon. They want
41:07
Speaker 8: to negotiate a solution. They want to negotiate a solution
41:10
Speaker 8: with the International Atomic Energy Agency rigorously monitoring.
41:15
Speaker 7: What they do.
41:16
Speaker 8: That has been true for fifteen years. This is just nincompoops.
41:21
Speaker 8: Honest to god, what do they think they're doing? By
41:24
Speaker 8: the way, I spoke to someone that is extremely knowledgeable
41:28
Speaker 8: about these negotiations, and there is no expert in the
41:33
Speaker 8: room in the US side, nobody that knows what they're
41:37
Speaker 8: talking about, No nuclear experts, no one that is involved
41:41
Speaker 8: at a level of understanding what this is really about. Now,
41:46
Speaker 8: in terms of substance, what is true is that the
41:51
Speaker 8: bombing last summer did not stop Iran from getting a
41:56
Speaker 8: nuclear weapon if.
41:57
Speaker 7: It wants one.
41:59
Speaker 8: So all of the bravado of Trump that, oh, yes,
42:06
Speaker 8: we ended their nuclear program. This is the greatest thing
42:09
Speaker 8: since this history of the world began. This is total
42:15
Speaker 8: Trump bs from beginning to end. That's the world we
42:18
Speaker 8: live in. It's all BS morning till night. No, it
42:22
Speaker 8: didn't stop anything. It was a useless attack that made
42:25
Speaker 8: the world a lot more dangerous. Could Iron get a
42:29
Speaker 8: nuclear weapon, Yes, it could get a nuclear weapon if
42:32
Speaker 8: it wanted one. Could it be stopped from getting a
42:35
Speaker 8: nuclear weapon? Yes, under its own volition, it doesn't want one,
42:40
Speaker 8: and it has said we agree to all of the monitoring.
42:46
Speaker 8: We agree to the international controls. Trump is the one
42:51
Speaker 8: that ripped up that agreement. This is so confused, so
42:56
Speaker 8: upside down completely, it's hard to even begin to understand
43:02
Speaker 8: any of this. But I just to credit Tucker Carlson
43:07
Speaker 8: with exposing one piece of this. How utterly bizarre the
43:13
Speaker 8: politics are at the top of the US government. Completely bizarre, delusional.
43:20
Speaker 8: So that's where we are.
43:22
Speaker 2: Do you think those comments from Huckabee saying, yeahine, I'm
43:26
Speaker 2: good if Israel pursues, you know, greater Israel based on
43:29
Speaker 2: biblical prophecy or biblical promises as he reads it, Yes, yes,
43:33
Speaker 2: exactly as he reads it. Do you think that has
43:35
Speaker 2: any significant impact on some of the US allies in
43:40
Speaker 2: the region, who would be you know, implicated by those comments.
43:46
Speaker 7: It's sad.
43:47
Speaker 8: The Arab world has been beaten down so long and
43:52
Speaker 8: so hard for centuries by the way, first by the Ottomans,
43:57
Speaker 8: then by the British, then by the Americans, then by
43:59
Speaker 8: the Israelis. So they are so beaten down that when
44:03
Speaker 8: they see something like this they complain, but they should
44:08
Speaker 8: do more than the complaint. It's actually a little bit
44:12
Speaker 8: sad if you if the lead American representative in Israel says, yeah,
44:19
Speaker 8: if Israel wants to take over most of the Middle East,
44:22
Speaker 8: that's good with us.
44:23
Speaker 7: That's not a matter for complaint.
44:26
Speaker 8: That is a matter for an emergency un Security Council session.
44:30
Speaker 8: That is a matter for this person to be relieved
44:34
Speaker 8: of duty immediately. That is a matter for the United
44:37
Speaker 8: States government to repudiate those words. That's a matter for
44:40
Speaker 8: the Israeli government to repudiate those words, though unfortunately there
44:44
Speaker 8: are people in the Israeli government that have that insane
44:48
Speaker 8: grandiosity that's going to get us all into into World
44:52
Speaker 8: War three if we continue on this path.
44:55
Speaker 1: So I do want to ask.
45:00
Speaker 8: So just to answer your question. At Crystal, they're very concerned,
45:05
Speaker 8: but they're so much under the hammer all the time.
45:09
Speaker 8: They're really concerned about a war starting tomorrow. They're really
45:12
Speaker 8: concerned about any kind of retribution. This is the sad point.
45:17
Speaker 8: It makes no sense in terms of security, peace, honesty.
45:22
Speaker 7: What either side is saying. Just one more point.
45:25
Speaker 8: Marco Rubio said about ten days ago, well, we don't
45:29
Speaker 8: want to just have negotiations about nuclear weapons. This has
45:33
Speaker 8: to be about a whole range of issues. And the
45:36
Speaker 8: Iranian Foreign Minister Arakchi gave a speech a couple of
45:40
Speaker 8: days later in Doha, a very fine.
45:43
Speaker 7: Speech by the way.
45:44
Speaker 8: They said, yes, we could have regional peace, and here's
45:47
Speaker 8: a path to regional peace, and he laid out the
45:49
Speaker 8: two state solution. He laid out mutual security in the region.
45:54
Speaker 8: The US didn't pick it up at all. The mainstream
45:57
Speaker 8: media in the United States didn't even cover it. I
45:59
Speaker 8: went to the New York Times reporters, you are going
46:01
Speaker 8: to mention the speech. It was after Rubio said we
46:05
Speaker 8: should have this. Then the Iranians responded. As far as
46:08
Speaker 8: I know, they never even wrote about the speech. So
46:12
Speaker 8: we're in a kind of game, bizarre, delusional, dangerous world
46:19
Speaker 8: with the Mike huckabees.
46:20
Speaker 7: Oh my god, this is the world we're in.
46:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Professor, that's what I was really going to
46:26
Speaker 1: ask you about.
46:26
Speaker 6: Is this?
46:27
Speaker 1: You know, they like you're talking about the New York Times.
46:29
Speaker 1: They present it as normal. We'll do a small attack
46:33
Speaker 1: followed by a larger attack. Yeah, if it doesn't work.
46:35
Speaker 1: And you're like, wait, what so you get two wars
46:37
Speaker 1: for the price of one a small attack and if
46:39
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, what does work even mean? Like that,
46:42
Speaker 1: they're going to agree to what they've already agreed to
46:44
Speaker 1: and then continue to say that they will. The only
46:46
Speaker 1: thing they don't want to give up is their ballistic
46:48
Speaker 1: missiles for good reason, so that they don't become an
46:50
Speaker 1: Israeli rupt state, which is what they want.
46:53
Speaker 8: And when they're told, yes, we're going to kill you,
46:55
Speaker 8: we're going to destroy you, we're going to overthrow you,
46:57
Speaker 8: you have to disarm.
46:58
Speaker 7: If you don't want to be killed, destroyed, overthrown.
47:01
Speaker 8: You have to disarm so then we can kill you,
47:03
Speaker 8: destroy you, and overthrow you.
47:04
Speaker 7: Of course, the whole thing is so absurd.
47:08
Speaker 8: And let me add another level of absurdity The New
47:12
Speaker 8: York Times, which just distinguish itself every day in the
47:17
Speaker 8: propaganda and the falsity of its reporting. I'm sorry to say,
47:21
Speaker 8: every day reports about the protests on the streets because
47:26
Speaker 8: of the economic suffering of the Iranian people, but they
47:31
Speaker 8: didn't report that our own Treasury secretary Bestened on January twentieth,
47:39
Speaker 8: in Davos, in a nonchalant interview with Fox Business, said
47:45
Speaker 8: that it was America's policy to crush the Iranian economy,
47:51
Speaker 8: to destroy the currency, to create a dollar shortage, to
47:56
Speaker 8: create a shortage of imports, so that people would go
48:00
Speaker 8: out onto the streets. And then, with a little smirk
48:04
Speaker 8: on his face, he says, we call this economic statecraft.
48:07
Speaker 8: And he says it's going in a very good direction.
48:10
Speaker 8: You'd think someone would ask a question, maybe even write
48:16
Speaker 8: an editorial. Is this our state craft to destroy other economies,
48:22
Speaker 8: especially ones that are saying they want to negotiate with us?
48:25
Speaker 8: And mister Witcoff said, it's about capitulation.
48:30
Speaker 7: Well, come on, what a world.
48:33
Speaker 8: Sorry, this is so dangerous for us, and the American
48:36
Speaker 8: people know it well.
48:39
Speaker 2: Speaking of Scott Bessett, and by the way, I learned
48:42
Speaker 2: from you that the way that he gained his wealth
48:45
Speaker 2: and prominence was from attacking currencies.
48:48
Speaker 3: So he is such a that's.
48:49
Speaker 7: Why he's there all the job there.
48:51
Speaker 8: He knows nothing about being a Treasury secretary. He's there
48:55
Speaker 8: to destroy the Iranian currency.
48:58
Speaker 2: Well, let's go ahead and turn to what's going on
49:01
Speaker 2: here in the US, which obviously also has major global implications,
49:05
Speaker 2: which is we got a Supreme Court ruling striking down
49:08
Speaker 2: some of the tariffs authorized under AIPA that Trump has
49:12
Speaker 2: been using as a cudgel in various negotiations and threats
49:16
Speaker 2: around the world. First of all, just your reaction to
49:19
Speaker 2: the significance of this decision, given that Trump is already saying, well,
49:23
Speaker 2: I'm going to use other authorities to try to accomplish
49:25
Speaker 2: the same thing.
49:27
Speaker 8: It's very significant because the Supreme Court did not buckle
49:31
Speaker 8: to the stupidity and the bullying that now guides America
49:36
Speaker 8: when Trump launched the so called reciprocal tariffs. I had
49:43
Speaker 8: two reactions within the first minute. First that the actual
49:49
Speaker 8: application of some stupid formula by our international trade representative
49:57
Speaker 8: was so primitive you would not have thought of first
50:00
Speaker 8: year student would come up with something so idiotic. So
50:04
Speaker 8: the incompetence was stunning. But the second point was I said,
50:09
Speaker 8: this is illegal, this is ridiculous. He doesn't have the
50:12
Speaker 8: authority as one person to revamp the American tariff system.
50:17
Speaker 8: That is Article one, section eight of the Constitution, which
50:22
Speaker 8: says that the right to levy duties and taxes belongs
50:25
Speaker 8: to Congress. That's why we created our country, by the way,
50:29
Speaker 8: in a protest about one person making taxation for the
50:34
Speaker 8: American colonies. It was obvious that what Trump was doing
50:41
Speaker 8: was illegal. It was obvious that it was stupid in
50:45
Speaker 8: that it would accomplish nothing if these people knew anything
50:49
Speaker 8: about international economics. By the way, and our deficit in
50:53
Speaker 8: goods went up in twenty twenty five, the employment in
50:58
Speaker 8: manufacturing went down by eighty three thousand workers in twenty
51:02
Speaker 8: twenty five. In other words, even on their narrow terms,
51:06
Speaker 8: whether it was legal or not, it was a complete failure.
51:10
Speaker 8: But it was predictably so. The only thing I couldn't
51:13
Speaker 8: predict is whether the Supreme Court would cave in, But
51:16
Speaker 8: they did a very good job, and I salute the
51:18
Speaker 8: Chief Justice John Roberts, who's a classmate of mine, for
51:23
Speaker 8: his very clear, correct, bold opinion.
51:30
Speaker 7: Bravo.
51:31
Speaker 8: Now there's another issue. Trump took from us illegally one
51:36
Speaker 8: hundred forty billion dollars.
51:40
Speaker 7: I want my part back. You should want your part back.
51:43
Speaker 8: They can't just say, oh, well, isn't that something We're
51:47
Speaker 8: just going to continue. They owe us one hundred forty
51:51
Speaker 8: billion dollars illegally taken through a brazen grab of power
51:56
Speaker 8: he stole from us.
51:57
Speaker 7: Return the money.
52:01
Speaker 1: To that point, sir, the Secretary of the Treasury is saying, no,
52:04
Speaker 1: we're not going to return the money. Matt, Can we
52:06
Speaker 1: go ahead and queue up D one so that the
52:09
Speaker 1: professor can listen to Secretary Scott Besson, who you said there,
52:12
Speaker 1: who's like, no, we're not returning. There will be no
52:14
Speaker 1: refunds and all of us will be litigated in court.
52:16
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
52:17
Speaker 11: Will you refund the roughly one hundred and thirty four
52:20
Speaker 11: billion dollars in revenue taken by these emergency tariffs?
52:26
Speaker 12: Well, Dana, that's not the big question. Let's just level
52:30
Speaker 12: set here. What the Supreme Court did was a very
52:33
Speaker 12: narrow reading of the president's authority under the AEPA tariffs.
52:38
Speaker 12: We have other tariff authorities which had been functioning Section
52:42
Speaker 12: two thirty two terriffs, Section three oh one tariffs, and Dana,
52:46
Speaker 12: when you say it's a big question, that's bad framing
52:49
Speaker 12: because the Supreme Court didn't even address that. The Supreme
52:52
Speaker 12: Court remanded it down to a lower court. And you know,
52:56
Speaker 12: we will follow what they say, but that could be
52:59
Speaker 12: weeks or months when we hear them. So the Supreme
53:02
Speaker 12: Court did not address refunds.
53:04
Speaker 11: Sure, they did an address refund that is clearly going
53:07
Speaker 11: to be up to you, which.
53:08
Speaker 7: Is no, no, no, no, it is not up to me.
53:11
Speaker 2: It is.
53:13
Speaker 7: Not up to the administration. It is up to the
53:15
Speaker 7: lower court. Let's just be clear on that. He's such
53:19
Speaker 7: a creep. You don't even know where to start.
53:21
Speaker 8: You stole one hundred and forty billion dollars, give it back, bestent,
53:26
Speaker 8: or just leave your job. You're not our treasury secretary.
53:30
Speaker 8: You're a thug to bring down the Iranian government. Come on,
53:33
Speaker 8: you stole the money, you did it illegally. It was
53:36
Speaker 8: a brazen grab for power. Take some responsibility.
53:39
Speaker 3: Please, let's go and put D four up on the screen.
53:43
Speaker 2: Because one of the other questions is, like, Okay, in
53:46
Speaker 2: the context of all of these threats of very high
53:49
Speaker 2: tariffs using this authority, there are a bunch of countries
53:53
Speaker 2: that did some sort of deal with the Trump administration
53:57
Speaker 2: and now they're wondering what this means for them and
54:00
Speaker 2: those deals. I'm sure they're probably also having some potential
54:03
Speaker 2: buyer's remorse giving into these threats, given that this authority
54:07
Speaker 2: has now been deemed illegal and unconstitutional. So two questions
54:12
Speaker 2: really for you here, you know, reflectively on these countries
54:15
Speaker 2: that did make deals, and then also, how much does
54:17
Speaker 2: this newter Trump's ability to act like the mob boss
54:20
Speaker 2: and the you know, the thug around the world since
54:23
Speaker 2: these tariffs were one of the things tools in his
54:26
Speaker 2: toolkit for behaving that way.
54:28
Speaker 7: Great questions.
54:29
Speaker 8: First of all, the authority that Trump is using right
54:33
Speaker 8: now is also illegal. He's claiming a section one twenty
54:38
Speaker 8: two of the Trade Act, which says that in the
54:43
Speaker 8: context of a balance of payments emergency, that tariffs can
54:48
Speaker 8: be put on for one hundred fifty days up to
54:51
Speaker 8: fifteen percent. We have no balance of payments emergency. He's
54:55
Speaker 8: doing it again. This is a brazen abuse of power.
55:00
Speaker 8: This should be understood. This isn't just a technical workaround that, oh,
55:05
Speaker 8: I have five ways to do it. He has maybe
55:08
Speaker 8: five ways to cheat. But he's cheating again, and he's
55:12
Speaker 8: deepening the mess. So this is the first point. What
55:15
Speaker 8: he's doing is illegal. We have no balance of payments emergency.
55:23
Speaker 8: I taught balance of payments economics at Harvard for twenty years.
55:28
Speaker 8: I can tell you we have no balance of payments emergency.
55:33
Speaker 8: So what he's doing is not legal. Now again, you
55:39
Speaker 8: can't predict what the Supreme Court will do, though we
55:43
Speaker 8: have more hope this time around that they'll again say
55:47
Speaker 8: you can't do this. But of course it's deepening the mess,
55:50
Speaker 8: the confusion. Trump keeps stealing our money. This is another
55:54
Speaker 8: point people should understand. I think that they douitively. Trump
56:02
Speaker 8: says that the other countries are paying.
56:04
Speaker 7: This is absurd.
56:06
Speaker 8: This is money coming out of your household income, and
56:11
Speaker 8: it's an average of one thousand dollars per household that
56:14
Speaker 8: was taken in this first round of illegal power grab.
56:19
Speaker 8: This isn't coming out of foreign countries. This isn't oh,
56:22
Speaker 8: we're going to find another way to make them pay.
56:25
Speaker 8: This is the American people paying for this, not foreigners.
56:29
Speaker 8: And this is demonstrated all over the place in careful analysis.
56:35
Speaker 8: Because the Americans paid the tax. Because the foreign exporters
56:39
Speaker 8: to the US didn't cut their prices to keep the
56:42
Speaker 8: price the same, the prices went up. Duh, that's how
56:46
Speaker 8: it works. And so this is Trump stealing from us
56:51
Speaker 8: and bestn't stealing from us, and his nonchalance, I don't care.
56:56
Speaker 8: That's a small deal. Yeah, one hundred and forty billion dollars.
56:59
Speaker 8: Maybe a small deal for you, but it's not a
57:01
Speaker 8: small deal for the American people and for people that
57:04
Speaker 8: can't pay their bills. Now, as for the other countries.
57:09
Speaker 7: They should say everything stops. Are you kidding?
57:13
Speaker 8: We got bamboozled, we got threatened, we got blustered. As
57:18
Speaker 8: Trump said, he liked how the countries came to kiss
57:20
Speaker 8: his ass.
57:21
Speaker 7: That's a quote. And of course they should say.
57:26
Speaker 8: No, no deals, what deal you lied to us, You cheated,
57:30
Speaker 8: Your Supreme Court tells you, tells us you don't have
57:33
Speaker 8: this power. No deal, all on false pretenses.
57:38
Speaker 7: Period.
57:39
Speaker 8: So the New York Times agonizing about this, My god,
57:43
Speaker 8: how weird is that?
57:46
Speaker 7: Who are these people? Honestly?
57:48
Speaker 1: Wait, I know if you too, I often asked, sometimes
57:54
Speaker 1: even they asked that question. Can we put D two
57:57
Speaker 1: up here on the screen, because I'm curious for your reaction.
57:59
Speaker 1: The only statutory authority they have now is about this
58:02
Speaker 1: fifteen percent global tariff which.
58:05
Speaker 7: Will be in place.
58:06
Speaker 1: I was just mentioned, right of course, But and you
58:09
Speaker 1: know you've talked there about the illegality. But how are
58:12
Speaker 1: you just the other countries you think about, Japan, South Korea, Britain,
58:17
Speaker 1: the EU. They came here, they made these fake promises
58:21
Speaker 1: to spend five thousand trillion dollars and none of it
58:27
Speaker 1: will actually come to pass. But now you have this
58:30
Speaker 1: fifteen percent tariff. It was raised from ten. It only
58:33
Speaker 1: has one hundred and fifty nine days I believe that
58:37
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty days to be put into place. And
58:40
Speaker 1: yet we could potentially have fifteen percent global tarff. But
58:43
Speaker 1: how would that even affect the negotiation power? Like, that's
58:46
Speaker 1: my curiosity.
58:47
Speaker 8: He has no negotiating power, okay, because this is not
58:51
Speaker 8: what he was doing before, which was like a madman
58:54
Speaker 8: throwing you know, lightning bolts down from Mount a limb
59:00
Speaker 8: as saying, I punish you.
59:01
Speaker 7: I punish you.
59:02
Speaker 8: I don't like the ad being run in Ontario, I
59:05
Speaker 8: don't like the lawsuit against the former president Bolsonaro.
59:09
Speaker 7: I don't like you doing this.
59:11
Speaker 8: He was acting as if he just can punish and
59:15
Speaker 8: crush anyone he wants. Now, this is completely different. This
59:20
Speaker 8: is not emergency powers that he claimed that he never had.
59:25
Speaker 8: This is about a balance of payments crisis that actually
59:28
Speaker 8: doesn't exist. So he can't bludgeon and threaten other countries,
59:37
Speaker 8: and the other countries should say, well, excuse me. That
59:41
Speaker 8: was a bad year. You did a lot of bad
59:44
Speaker 8: things to us. You made a lot of threats that
59:46
Speaker 8: you didn't have the power to make. Let's just take
59:49
Speaker 8: a pause. Everything is set aside.
59:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know that it is a
59:54
Speaker 2: significant decision. Also to through Trump's reaction, he was lashing
59:58
Speaker 2: out at the justices, etc.
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Speaker 3: Apparently exploded when he learned the news.
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Speaker 2: The last question I had for is a specific one
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Speaker 2: vis a vis Mexico and Cuba. Actually, this tariff threat
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Speaker 2: was one of the ways that Trump was trying to
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Speaker 2: coerce the Mexican government to, you know, abide by this
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Speaker 2: oil embargo. That the US is imposing on Cuba to
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Speaker 2: you keep them from sending oil to the island, which
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Speaker 2: is deeply suffering now due to our economic warfare against them.
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Speaker 2: Do you think this changes the calculus at all for
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Speaker 2: the Shinebomb government.
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Speaker 7: I hope that it does.
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Speaker 8: What Trump is trying to do to bring down Cuba
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Speaker 8: in a regime change operation is also extraordinarily illegal and
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Speaker 8: cruel and an active war. Actually it's a quarantine around Cuba,
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Speaker 8: and it's absolutely unacceptable. And I hope that there is
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Speaker 8: a solution, because, again, economic stakecraft should not mean the
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Speaker 8: suffering of other people. It should not mean a Middle
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Speaker 8: East that's a flame from Libya to Iran. If we
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Speaker 8: had any decency at all, which I'm not sure is
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Speaker 8: a term that can apply to our current administration or
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Speaker 8: our deep state for that matter, we would not be
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Speaker 8: doing the things that we're doing.
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Speaker 7: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Well, we always appreciate your analysis, sir. Thank you so
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Speaker 1: much for joining us.
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Speaker 7: Great to be with you. Hope we do it again soon.
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Speaker 6: Oh always.
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Speaker 7: Thanks.
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