Latest / Mac & Bone Podcast / Mac & Bone Show - Marc Trestman Interview

Transcript

Mac & Bone Show - Marc Trestman Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: We love talking football mag Our. Next guest will join
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: us momentarily, and we were just talking about Mark Tressman's
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: football life. You talk about being around in terms of
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: characters and greatness from his career that started in eighty
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: one at Miami all the way until twenty twenty four
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: with Harbaugh and the Chargers. We're talking Steve Young, John Gruden,
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: Rich Gannon's MVP year, Chuck a Motto, Sean Payton, the
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: Niners of the nineties. It goes on and on and on.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear some stories from Marks, no
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: doubt man. He has truly lived a football life.
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: And by the way, north of the border too, three
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: great coupsh Canada in Canada as a head coach, head
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: coach of the Bears, and man he is joining us
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: now on the Mac and Bone Show, and he wants
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: to tell us all about I'm sure he's gonna love
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: shatting with us, but of course, but he wants to
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: get the word out about his book, Teaching the Game,
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: which is out there right now for all the football
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: fans listening. Mark Tressman joins us here in Charlotte on
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: the Mac and Bone Show. Mark, thank you so much
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: for coming on. Man, how you doing, Mac and Bone?
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure and a
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: privilege and exciting days. The NFL season this year, so pumped.
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: I feel the excitement in your voices and looking forward
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: to the season there. There's always interesting things that happen throughout.
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: It's a journey and we're off to a good start.
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: So thank you for having me.
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: Hey, we appreciate you being here. I know you've worked
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: Bone mentioned, I know you work with a ton of quarterbacks.
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: You're an offensive guy. Our quarterback, Bryce Young is polarizing, right.
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: I think he has definitely improved. He certainly isn't there yet,
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: right in terms of consistency, How do you feel about
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: Bryce Young? And you know, how good of a quarterback
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: can he be in this league? Is he one that
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: you look at and say, oh, he can be the
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: Panthers foundation or do you kind of question it?
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't question. I think every quarterback's on his
• 2:02
  Speaker 3: own journey. I think that the consistency of his coaches,
• 2:06
  Speaker 3: the coaching staff, I think is definitely helpful. I think
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of positive vibes that are going on
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: in that quarterback meeting. Room, and you know, as the
• 2:15
  Speaker 3: team and Dan Morgan continues to surround him with talented players.
• 2:20
  Speaker 3: You know, I think there there's a lot of positive
• 2:22
  Speaker 3: He's a winner, he's a champion. He's gone through some
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: ups and downs. Phil Simms, you shall always say before
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: a quarterback and go to heaven, he's got to go
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: to hell and and Bryce has felt a little bit
• 2:33
  Speaker 3: of that too. So this is all you know, developing
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: backbone and and resilience. And I'm looking forward to the
• 2:39
  Speaker 3: season and seeing seeing his improvement for over the next
• 2:44
  Speaker 3: four or five months.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing that was about Bill Parcells that Phil Simms
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: quote there and all you went through. Yeah, yeah, good,
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: that's great.
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: That's so good.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: Your your career guy going in the eighties. So you've
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: seen the game change immenseally. We could talk about some
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: of the other changes outside the quarterback spot, but from
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: when you started to now, why do you think the
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: smaller quarterbacks like Bryce can now succeed at the NFL
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: level when before guys like Doug Flute he had to
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: go to Canada, which you know, well succeed there find
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: a path. Why do you think the league and the
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: way it's played now allows for shorter quarterbacks like Bryce
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray to have success.
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that the league allows that or
• 3:31
  Speaker 3: wants that. I think those quarterbacks are an anomaly in
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: terms of size. I mean, I've stood on the field,
• 3:38
  Speaker 3: I've been I've stood next close to Bryce and I've
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: watched him work, and I think it's, you know, really
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: up to the staff regardless of the size of the quarterback.
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: You know, they've got to take care of him. They've
• 3:49
  Speaker 3: got to keep him safe. And Bryce got has got
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: to do you know, two things that are the most
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: important in his case. Number one is to protect the
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: football and the next lift for the next down, and
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: the coaching staff has to provide him with those opportunities.
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: And then he's got to be smart enough to take
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: care of himself, because you know, the teams defenses are faster, bigger,
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: stronger than they've ever been over the last forty years
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: of football. It's a dangerous place to be behind the
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, and a quarterback has certain responsibilities with
• 4:21
  Speaker 3: that football and his case and with all cases living
• 4:25
  Speaker 3: for the next play. You can see what happens with quarterbacks.
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: Daniels Dart. You know, when you start taking the game
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: into your own hands and do things that are going
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: to put yourself and your health at risk. That's a
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: danger to the entire organization.
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: We're talking to Mark Tressman. He is a former NFL
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: coach with the Bears, great CFL coach college football as well,
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: so many years running offenses college and pro here Stateside.
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: He is the author of Teaching the Game his book.
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: He's going to tell you all about it before he
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: gets out of here. A good sounds like a great
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: read for football fans. I want to ask you, Mark
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: about head coaches calling their own plays, because I know
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: you did that at times in Canada when you won
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: those titles. I know you did it some with the
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: Bears when you were the head coach there. Our head
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: coach Dave Canalis called plays for the first two years
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: and now is turning it over to Brad Insick as
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. How did you feel and it seems like
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: what coach Canalis feels like is I want to kind
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: of manage the entire game maybe better. So I want
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: to take this off my plate. Was did you find
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: it real hard to do both? Is it something that
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: should be two separate jobs? I mean how do you
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: feel about that?
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a great question. Let me give
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: you a couple of examples. When I went to Canada
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: first as a head coach, I decided I was going
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: to call the plays early on, and we went to
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: three Great Cups my first three years, and I always
• 5:59
  Speaker 3: wanted to turn the play calling over to a couple
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: other guys, and they always resisted. They said, coach here,
• 6:07
  Speaker 3: we're doing such a good job. Why change. And so
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: I wound up calling the plays for my five years
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: there and we did very well. And then I wanted
• 6:14
  Speaker 3: to Canada again, to Toronto after the Bears. The same
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: thing happened when I was in Chicago. We had a
• 6:21
  Speaker 3: really good first year. I think we had, you know,
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: arguably the best offense in the history of the Bears,
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: and we were one or two three in the league offensively.
• 6:29
  Speaker 3: So I decided to do the same thing. But my
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: plan was to do what Canalis is doing now, and
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: that's turning it over. I think this is a sign
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: of a selfless coach, a coach who wants to delegate
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: and become more involved with the entire football team, and
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: you just can't when you're calling plays. You try but
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: you can't turning it over. I think is especially after
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: a successful season, says a lot about the head coach,
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: his leadership ability, and his self awareness. I think this
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: is a really good sign for the Panthers coach.
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: We were talking about all the characters you've been around
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: in your career, and that includes your time there albeit briefly,
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: with Chuck a Motto at NC State here locally in
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: five to six. What was it like to play for him?
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: We always marvel at some of the quotes in just
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: the general character that Chuck a Motto is still to
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: this day.
• 7:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. A good comparison to Chuck, and I'll get to
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: that in one second, is Jerry Glanville. I had a
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: chance to work with Jerry Glanville in the XFL one
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: year in Tampa, and his perception was not the reality.
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: He was one of the most humble, selfless, great teacher.
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: I learned so much from him, and he was eighty
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: years old at the time, so sometimes perception isn't reality.
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: That's my point here. I loved working for Chuck. He
• 7:55
  Speaker 3: was a demanding coach, but he was not more demanding
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: than I was on myself. So I loved coaching for him.
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: Some of the things that happened publicly were disappointing that
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: may have cost him his job in the end, but
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: working day to day with him, his love of the game,
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: his care for the players was sincere and I enjoyed,
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: you know. I went to I went to NC State
• 8:21
  Speaker 3: because I wanted to get out of the NFL, had
• 8:22
  Speaker 3: a four year contract, you know, with the Wolf Peck,
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: and thought I was going to be able to raise
• 8:28
  Speaker 3: my daughters in junior high in high school, and that
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: turned out not to be the case. But that's my
• 8:33
  Speaker 3: take on Chuck.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: That's not that's good stuff. That is good. So I
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: got a question about quarterbacks. We you know, we're you
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: as you can imagine. I'm sure this is happening in
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: every NFL market right on sports talk radio and with fans,
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: but you know, we obsess over talking about Bryce and
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: his positives and negatives and stuff like that, and people
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: will often bring up, well, he's his arm strong enough,
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: And I really always wonder, like I just don't think.
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: I think arm strength can be extremely useful, but I
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: always feel like I'm not sure it's at the top
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: of the list or even in the top few things
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: you need to do to be a great quarterback. You've
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: worked with so many quarterbacks. What would be your characteristics? Like,
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: where would arm strength rank among the things that you
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: really want your quarterback to have as positive attributes.
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: Well, what you almost of all is you can't play
• 9:22
  Speaker 3: the game unless you're accurate. It's just that simple. You
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: can have all the intelligibles, the courage, the self awareness,
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: spatial awareness, functional intelligence, that's all great, but you've got
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: to be able to throw the ball accurately to a
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: player covered man to man, one of defenders on his hip.
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: That's the difference maker between you know, a good quarterback
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: and a great quarterback. And if you're not accurate, you
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: really can't play. That would be number one. Arm strength
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be in the top four. You know, if he
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: could make most of the throws change to trajectory, you know,
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: have it anticipation, he can overcome arm strength, but without accuracy,
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: it's very difficult for him to get on the field.
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: Coach, talk to us about the new book Teaching the game. Now,
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: your first book, you have one out in twenty ten
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: called Perseverance. But what is this one about and how
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: did this project come to be?
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for giving me the time. I'm really proud
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: of it. It took eighteen months. I started it in March,
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: right after I decided to retire in March of twenty five.
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: Teaching the Game is really a six hundred and thirty
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: two page thank you note to the coaches and the
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: players who taught me the game. And it's a book
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: that is not just for offensive coaches. It's for NFL college,
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: high school Pop Warner coaches to help them better teach
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: the game. It starts through the eyes of the quarterback,
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: but it covers both sides of the ball, all the
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: special situations in football, all the specifics, the important things
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: like blocking, tackling, ball disrupt block destruction, ball security, where
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: every player has to learn it. It's all covered philosophies
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: of the game, science of the throwing motion, and at
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: the end, I teach the leadership course at the University
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: of Miami Law School. I've done it for the last
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: five five springs and there's a whole forty page chapter
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: on leadership as well as well. But it starts through
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: the eyes of the quarterback because regardless of the coach
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: position you coach, if you don't see the game through
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: the eyes of the quarterback. It's really hard to coach
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: the game, and that leads into forty seconds between each
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: play the week and the life of the quarterback. It
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: just it's kind of an analyst and the book of
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: that I tried to cover everything, but because i'm you know,
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: known would be an offensive coach, you know, I took
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: the head coaching perspective and I made sure that every
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: special teams coach and defensive coach will get a lot
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: out of it because I cover both sides of the
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: ball with every situation that I cover in the book.
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: That's awesome, That's great. It sounds like a great read
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: for football fans. Coach was great talking to you. I
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: do want to thank you for something, Coach, because I
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: and people don't understand. I grew up in Pennsylvania, but
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: I was rooting for the Browns. People don't understand. Now
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: I'm a Panther fan, you know, for my twenty years here.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: I'm very complicated. But one of my favorite players as
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: a kid was Bernie Kozar. You coached him, I think
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: at Miami and with the Browns. I would like to
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: thank you and every coach for not changing that funky
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: sidear motion. Coach because I loved it. I would wake
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: I love that baby.
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: That would never happen if I could. Guys, if there,
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: if anybody's looking for the book, if they go to
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: the website Teachingthegame dot com, they can buy the book
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: on Coach's Choice or Amazon, or just go to Amazon
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: Teaching the Game and the book will be available.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: All right, coach, best of luck with the book and
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: thanks for coming on. Appreciate it.
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: I'm excited for the Panthers. It should be an interesting
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: you're defending their their division title.