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Child Stars on Trial: The KJ Biermann Case & Portia's Mic'd Up Childhood · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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  Speaker 2: Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 3: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have a new
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  Speaker 2: be familiar with his hilarious work on Housewives and Pop Culture.
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  Speaker 2: We have Georgio Says. Your real name is Georgio... Takenakis. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: It's very Greek.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say that's Greek.
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  Speaker 3: It's very Greek.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I love it. I wish you brought me some
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  Speaker 2: Greek food, but whatever, I should have asked previously. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Juicy Scoop. Thank you for coming.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: You're so cute. Thank you. I'm glad you reached out.
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  Speaker 2: We follow each other.
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  Speaker 3: I sleep in your dumpster outside of your house sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just joking. But no, let's get into it. I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to just, I saved some topics for you, get
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  Speaker 2: some of your insight. You go on deep dives and
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  Speaker 2: you have a lot of insight into pop culture and
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  Speaker 2: some specific housewives. So let's Get into something fun at first. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Or not, depending how you feel. Real Housewives of New York,
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  Speaker 2: the reboot. We are in season.
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  Speaker 3: This is the third season of the reboot.
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  Speaker 2: Third season of the reboot. I've talked a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about it. They brought in Carol. I think they brought
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  Speaker 2: in Carol because she is good TV. She's a good
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  Speaker 2: reality TV person. She's very smart. And I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about the season so far.
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  Speaker 2: I was a little more hopeful. And now I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: What is your thought so far?
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  Speaker 3: I was feeling that way up until the premiere because
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  Speaker 3: I thought, oh, they're giving us this trailer. It's going
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  Speaker 3: to make us get all excited. And then we're going
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  Speaker 3: to watch it. It's just going to be like stalemate.
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  Speaker 3: I will say that the girls have picked up the pace.
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  Speaker 3: So that's good. Haley is saving the show more for
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  Speaker 3: me right now than Carol. Carol's great because I think
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  Speaker 3: she ties in that.
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  Speaker 2: I think Haley and Carol could be sisters.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. I was thinking that even though.
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  Speaker 2: They're like literally, you know, 25 years apart.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy?
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  Speaker 2: It's a lesson. And I've just like the third time
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  Speaker 2: I've talked about it with Haley is a lesson why
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  Speaker 2: you don't get your buckle fat removed. And that's this
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  Speaker 2: part of your face and get cheekbones and everything removed.
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  Speaker 2: When you're in your 30s. Oh, I gotta cancel that.
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  Speaker 2: Because you could look like you're 60 and had work done.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's more of the issue. Everyone in
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  Speaker 3: the comment section is like, she's only 39?
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  Speaker 2: 37.
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  Speaker 3: 37? Oh, I just made that worse.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: No, I just mean like, so that's what that's.
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  Speaker 2: And I listen, I don't want to just talk about
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  Speaker 2: somebody's looks, but I mean, you are on the show
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  Speaker 2: and it is about glam and looks and there's a
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  Speaker 2: makeup artist on there. Her dad's a plastic surgeon. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I think we have to talk about it. What else
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  Speaker 2: are we talking about except that she roller skates and
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  Speaker 2: is gay? She's bi. But we don't ever see the husband.
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  Speaker 2: We have no idea how she makes her money.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they like each other.
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  Speaker 2: But she is kind of a quirky thing.
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  Speaker 3: She's quirky.
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  Speaker 2: But I wonder if the quirkiness is a little Kathy Hilton-ish.
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  Speaker 3: I think she's just a pothead.
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  Speaker 2: I saw a clip where she said, well, she was
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  Speaker 2: talking to someone on a FaceTime and she's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: they want to.
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  Speaker 2: You know, someone to set me up on a queer
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  Speaker 2: bird watching thing.
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  Speaker 3: Did you catch?
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, okay. And she goes, well, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how do they know if the birds are queer or not?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's some hunky dory shit.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little bit, but it still made you smile. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I laughed. It still made you smile. It still made
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  Speaker 2: you laugh. So I give her that. You know, the
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  Speaker 2: producers are trying to give us someone entertaining. She is entertaining.
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  Speaker 2: We are talking about it. So I'll give her that.
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  Speaker 2: But get ready throughout the season if it turns real
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  Speaker 2: Kathy Hilton hunky-dory-ish.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised by that. But I was laughing
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  Speaker 3: more at the fact that she started the sentence with,
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  Speaker 3: you know, my therapist is they, them. She told me
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  Speaker 3: that I should go. I was like.
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  Speaker 2: What? Yeah, because exactly. Because I'm like, you're not even
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  Speaker 2: walking the walk of the talk of your lavender.
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  Speaker 3: So now I'm like, is her therapist, see? No, I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying it right. Is her therapist going to be upset
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  Speaker 3: with that?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I honestly, I think it's still early.
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  Speaker 3: It's only been three episodes. But what I will say
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  Speaker 3: is Aaron is, Aaron and Jessel are making me like,
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  Speaker 3: laugh with their interactions because Jessel seems to be, well,
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  Speaker 3: like this was the thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this woman, Jessel, who is from London, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not a super, it's not a super strong accent
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  Speaker 2: and she's very pretty. She's Indian. And she, she had
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  Speaker 2: a big blow up glow up from the first season. Um, and, but,
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand who this person is. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: was she always this much of a bitch?
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  Speaker 3: Probably.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think we saw it on the show.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like she's now bringing it.
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  Speaker 3: I think producers told her, you need to be more
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  Speaker 3: snobby and lean into that because it's a shtick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like such a shtick. And then there
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  Speaker 2: was this one scene with Aaron, which I guess is
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  Speaker 2: in this latest episode. But they're eating and she's like
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  Speaker 2: saying these things. She's like, You think that you're Zendaya,
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  Speaker 2: but you're really Blossom or something. And thank God Erin
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  Speaker 2: caught on. She goes, all right, enough with the scripted lines.
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  Speaker 2: It's not killing it. And I know that people have
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  Speaker 2: hired help, hired writers. Sometimes the producers are those people.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they actually have someone going, give me a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of witty lines. I want to have the iconic lines
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  Speaker 2: that the women of yesteryear had. Sometimes when people say,
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  Speaker 2: you know, these new girls don't have those iconic moments of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, close your legs to married men and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all those type of things that make T-shirts and you
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  Speaker 2: say it to someone and they know exactly who you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about. And they happen because they were not scripted,
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  Speaker 2: because they happened in the moment, because These women are
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  Speaker 2: smart and funny and clever, and they are kind of
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  Speaker 2: snarky bitches, and they did live in a bubble, and
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  Speaker 2: they are a woman of a certain age and privilege. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why we watched them. So I feel like
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  Speaker 2: she's– I love that Aaron called her on her scriptedness.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Aaron is– Well, now I understand why
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  Speaker 3: Erin was saying the things that she was saying about
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  Speaker 3: Jessel to these other women at the Ultimate Girls Trip.
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  Speaker 2: She's like a clout chaser. And she's like, bullshit.
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  Speaker 3: You are fake.
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  Speaker 2: She's so fake.
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  Speaker 3: Like, you can tell just by how she interacts on
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  Speaker 3: the show. Like, as soon as the camera goes off,
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  Speaker 3: she's not talking to you anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You're not going to lunch
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  Speaker 3: with Jessel after cameras go down.
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  Speaker 2: Of course not, darling. Because you're. A one woman Ponzi scheme.
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  Speaker 3: That was so chat GPT. I am so tired of
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  Speaker 3: these housewives going into chat GPT and putting in the
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  Speaker 3: like description of the other housewife they're fighting with and say,
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  Speaker 3: give me like 10 lines that I could go at her.
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  Speaker 3: And they're like, sure. Thanks for your query. Here you go.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like.
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  Speaker 2: That is. I think you're 100% right.
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  Speaker 3: One man Ponzi scheme. One man Houdini. Those were Chachi.
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  Speaker 2: Why one man? First of all, why wouldn't you say
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  Speaker 2: one woman? And why are you saying one woman? Why
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  Speaker 2: don't you just go, you remind me of a Ponzi scheme.
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  Speaker 2: Because she's not a real writer, so even if a
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  Speaker 2: real writer could take something from Chachi Petit and bounce
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  Speaker 2: off of it and be clever or whatever, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Make it your own or use it. I hate when
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  Speaker 3: it's not authentic.
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 3: Even the get up from the table that she did
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  Speaker 3: was like, She thought of it in her head. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to let her say the sentence, and I'm done.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? There was no reason for
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  Speaker 3: her to leave.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't even finish their beverage. Erin paid for her water,
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Well, darling, I'll pay for your water since so much
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  Speaker 2: water killed your house. Or whatever, like, that was just.
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  Speaker 3: The popcorn ceiling stuff, that really pissed me off. I
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  Speaker 3: was like.
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  Speaker 2: So Jessel goes into the makeup artist's house. And she
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  Speaker 2: was trying to have her what? Oh, honey, not a
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  Speaker 2: white refrigerator. She was trying to have her white refrigerator moment.
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  Speaker 2: And she walked in and realized that they had, we
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  Speaker 2: would call it cottage cheese ceilings back in my day,
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  Speaker 2: houses that had it.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And at a time, they were supposed to have asbestos.
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  Speaker 2: So in my real estate days, it was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you could cover it all up, but you never know
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  Speaker 2: what might be in.
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  Speaker 3: It, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Um, it's an apartment. I don't know. It was just,
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  Speaker 2: it was weird.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's another reason why Jessel stands out in New
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  Speaker 3: York because a real new, like I I lived in
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  Speaker 3: New York for four years. You would die for a
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  Speaker 3: rent-controlled apartment with popcorn ceilings. Like, it's a dream, you know,
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  Speaker 3: especially if you're living in Manhattan.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and if it's rent-controlled, you can't fix it, right? No.
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  Speaker 3: And it's rented, so you wouldn't care. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: let it go is what I'm saying. But I think
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  Speaker 3: that also proves that, Jessel, you're not a New Yorker
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  Speaker 3: even just from transplanting. here. Because, like, I'm not from
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  Speaker 3: New York, but I got there and I realized, like,
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  Speaker 3: this is what it is. You don't tear stuff down.
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  Speaker 2: Right, remember when she said, like, oh, Tribeca, it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of an up-and-coming cute little neighborhood.
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  Speaker 3: Because in her mind, she sees city and all of
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of, like, garbage-y. She doesn't realize the, like,
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  Speaker 3: the levels that, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I think... If I was to bet money, I think
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  Speaker 2: they were looking for housewives three years ago, that they
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  Speaker 2: wanted a diverse cast. And I also remember hearing that
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  Speaker 2: she moved there.
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  Speaker 4: She did.
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  Speaker 2: We still don't know what either of them do for
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  Speaker 2: a living. There's no way he's making money off of
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  Speaker 2: food videos.
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  Speaker 3: Not on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: I predict there'll be a moment where he tries stand-up
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  Speaker 2: if he hasn't already. That's my prediction. Okay. The husband.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of on the.
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  Speaker 3: Like, the intro package, I feel like, now. Like, when
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  Speaker 3: you get on Housewives, it's like, okay, husband, in a year,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to get you a comedy show, and then
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  Speaker 3: we're going to get you.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to try that, because you're kind of funny.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to do food reviews.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And so she's, like, she's just looking for a
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  Speaker 2: ticket out of that one, you know, and.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think she likes him.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he likes her.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, I thought... So I thought that was kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And that's about it. I don't know if there's anything
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  Speaker 2: more to discuss. There isn't.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, this is still fresh. We're still getting
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  Speaker 3: to know the newbies. I'm still trying to figure out
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  Speaker 3: the new girl, Erica. I'm interested in her. She's married
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  Speaker 3: to the billionaire, the tech billionaire.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that sounds good. She looks like she's got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of layers. When they go to her island, that'll
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  Speaker 2: be kind of good. I mean, listen, we will watch. Oh, Aaron.
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  Speaker 2: So then Aaron... Oh, she gives the... Haley said she's boring.
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  Speaker 3: So she puts the jelly or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But really, that seems to be something that really gets
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  Speaker 2: under a housewife's skin. I remember Teddy Mellencamp somehow accused
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  Speaker 2: me of calling her boring, and I never did.
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  Speaker 3: You? I thought that was Sutton.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I heard her talking on her Two
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  Speaker 2: Cunts and a Zoom show that she... That she said
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  Speaker 2: that I called her boring or something in a live show.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm going, okay, so if it was in a
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  Speaker 2: live show, somebody in the 500 people or whatever watching
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  Speaker 2: it wrote something. I didn't say it. There's no proof
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  Speaker 2: to it. I don't call housewives boring. Well, actually, I
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  Speaker 2: take that back. I kind of think, Gina, sometimes in
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  Speaker 2: telling stories, it can go a little long. Gina on OC.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't necessarily. Anyway, I know I didn't say
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  Speaker 2: it about her because I never did find Teddy that way.
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  Speaker 2: I liked her on the show.
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  Speaker 3: I liked her.
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  Speaker 2: I had no problem with Teddy on the show. But
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  Speaker 2: it's funny that Erin just is taking such offense to this.
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  Speaker 2: And she says she's boring like jam. What? Well, Meghan
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  Speaker 2: Markle would have a problem with that. But anyway. And
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  Speaker 2: so then she did her thing at Watch Problems Live.
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  Speaker 2: She did a cute little dress. I mean, she has
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  Speaker 2: great style. She's very pretty. When the party needs a
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  Speaker 2: splash of boring, I'm like, wow, I guess when you're
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  Speaker 2: a housewife, that is the worst thing that could be
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  Speaker 2: told because that means that you could be fired.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I was just going to say.
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  Speaker 2: You'd rather be hated. You'd rather be called a bitch.
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  Speaker 2: You'd rather be called, you know, polarizing is the best
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  Speaker 2: one because some people love you. Some people hate you.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's... It comes with the territory, but you're right.
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  Speaker 3: The last thing you want to be is the last
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  Speaker 3: seat on the end is just.
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  Speaker 2: Or comes in halfway through.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no. You better come in and throw a plate
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  Speaker 3: or something because you need to capture everyone's attention. Like
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  Speaker 3: I would be like on the fringe. Like you're not
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  Speaker 3: calling me boring. I'm going to ruin your life every
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  Speaker 3: day I see you.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But I almost think that if she would have
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  Speaker 2: heard that, I think the thing to do is not
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  Speaker 2: to address it. Because then it kind of makes you
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  Speaker 2: kind of wonder like, is she a little bit? Like
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  Speaker 2: let me watch it. I don't– I think maybe because
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  Speaker 2: she's so pretty to look at and I've gone– I
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  Speaker 2: had her on the show. I went out to dinner
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  Speaker 2: with her. Yeah, and I found her to be– She's lovely.
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  Speaker 2: The person that you'd actually want to be friends with.
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  Speaker 3: She's exactly who she presents to be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can hang. You can hang with her for sure.
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  Speaker 3: One thing I would maybe think of is that Erin
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  Speaker 3: may be the type that is different when cameras go up.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm on now, so I'm going to be on,
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  Speaker 3: maybe perhaps off. She's not as– And.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, people change, you know, they change a lot as
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  Speaker 2: the years go by and they see what the game
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  Speaker 2: is and they want the people out of their kitchen
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  Speaker 2: as quickly as possible. So they will get right to
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  Speaker 2: the subject and the story that has to happen versus
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  Speaker 2: a true documentarian type of situation where we're just following
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  Speaker 2: you through your day to day. And, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: forget the cameras there. Who knows? But anyway, let's also
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  Speaker 2: now talk about the latest, God, with the KJ Bierman,
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  Speaker 2: Kim Zolciak's son. So I kept seeing this article yesterday
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  Speaker 2: and I was thinking, isn't this old news? And it
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: was that he did get released from incarceration. He was
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  Speaker 2: at the prison or the jail, I guess you'd say
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  Speaker 2: the jail, because the prison is where you've been sentenced.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought that That happened last week. But I
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  Speaker 2: guess you want to clarify what happened.
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  Speaker 3: So I've been covering this from pretty much the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: So what happened was his bond hearing on the 11th
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  Speaker 3: was when the district attorney and prosecutors came forward with
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  Speaker 3: this additional evidence. They unsealed the juvenile case. Even after
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  Speaker 3: all of that being said, the judge was like, you
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  Speaker 3: know what? I'm going to approve your bond, but we're
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: going to make it a $ 200, 000 bond. So I think people,
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: assume myself included, that that meant that that day... He
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: was then released because that's what I would have assumed
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: reading the article. It seemed pretty final. And they gave
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: all the– he's going to wear the GPS monitor. He's
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: not allowed to talk to anyone under 16. He can
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: only pretty much do school. The article that came out
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: yesterday was basically confirming that someone was able to come
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: up with $ 200, 000.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know how because they're both– Well, I thought $ 200, 000
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: means you just have to come up with $ 20, 000. $ 20, 000.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Well, sure. But I'm just saying, even still, they're both
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: fighting over shoes and bags. It's like, how do you have.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: The daughters have $ 20, 000. A neighbor would have $ 20, 000 on
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: a credit card. You could do it.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: But now he has been released into her care. And
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: so now that's where we have to wait and see
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: what happens with the rest of this. But they are
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: trying to interview other minors that were impacted by this,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: which is also a very touchy thing to do in
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: a case like this. The judge is not having a
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: closed courtroom, but she is not allowing any photography or
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: anything like that.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: But people could go in.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: They could.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: So then they could write about it.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Which is what happened when I was so surprised that
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: we knew that there was this evidence on his phone
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: of him assaulting a person under the age of 11
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: who was his relative.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: And I thought, how do we know this? And it
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: was because someone, page six was in the court and
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: that's what the prosecutor was saying in her plea to
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: get him not released. And, you know, I talked to
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: my sister who works with juveniles and she's like, well,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: in California, you know, this would all have been closed.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: But also that attorney could have said, I have something
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I would like to discuss in chambers. But maybe at
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: that point, She really wanted this out there to be
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: known that this person is truly dangerous. And her– the
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: original accuser, who is the girl from the gym dressing room,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: didn't want him out.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: She wrote a letter. There was a video of it,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: of the judge reading the statement.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: The letter, yeah.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: It's not– so cut and dry that he's a minor
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: and it should just be closed off in my opinion.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: You did something allegedly very disturbing, not once, but there's
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: now all these other allegations and the videos. This is
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: not someone that should be outside of supervision until things
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: are solidified. I don't trust that Kim's going to keep
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: him where he needs to be. She's, she's been photographed
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: out shopping and she's doing her little, I don't know
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: who's hiring her for sponsorships these days, but you know, she's,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: still doing things as if like it's not a problem.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: And this to me, you would never see me again.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: You would never see me again if my son was
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: in this position. I wouldn't be photographed. I'd be in
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: a house. I'd be talking to people. How do I
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: deal with this? So it's alarming that we, A, that
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: there's minors involved in the trauma that goes along with
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: that and what they will have to endure later. But
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: now it's like no one cares. That's what it felt
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: like to me when the judge reads that and then says, yep,
• 18:41
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• 21:01
  Speaker 2: here's some things that I discovered, which you probably are
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  Speaker 2: aware of too that I did not know last time
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I reported on this, is that the alleged victim is
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: best friends with the girl that he was currently dating,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: his girlfriend. And then also there was something that someone
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: pulled up in which– KJ and the girlfriend were saying,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I love you in comments to each other under some
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: post that happened either the day before the incident or
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the day of the incident. So he was very much
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: with his girlfriend, saw this BFF and decided he could
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: make a move. I'm sure the defense will be, oh,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: this girl was jealous and wanted him, you know? And
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: But I keep saying from the very beginning, she went
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: right away. It was reported the next day. Yeah. And
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: this would have been something that a lot of people
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: would understandably keep to themselves, take it to the grave,
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  Speaker 2: not tell anyone for years, maybe be afraid that their
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  Speaker 2: best friend would think that they did come on to
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: the boyfriend, wondered how did I give any signals that
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: this could have happened? I mean, I don't know what's
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: But as a girl and knowing high school relationships and things,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: how things can get misconstrued and how it's always being
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: pointed at the girl. You were the hussy. You were
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: jealous of.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Your– You shouldn't have been there at that time. You
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: were jealous of.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Your friend whose mother is Kim Zolciak.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Who doesn't have anything, by the way.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: What are you taking from them at this point?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: So that was disturbing. Did you hear– do you know
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: any more about that?
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: No, but I think that's going to start slowly coming up.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: We also have some students from the school that have
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: been jumping on TikTok recently explaining things.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: What are they saying?
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: They're saying that there's disturbing behavior. There's always he's aggressive.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: His own sister said it on a podcast.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: And you can see he is that that one cop cam,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: the police cam where you hear him screaming at him.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: When the cops come to break up another one of
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: the Kim and Croy fights.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, and he gets really upset because he thinks Kim
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: is having his father arrested. So Croy's in handcuffs and
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: he's like, it's okay, it's okay. They're just holding me
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: for a second. Calm down. Like, that is alarming to
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: me for a number of reasons. But also, and this
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: can be cut out, but like as someone who's been...
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: a victim of something like that, I didn't speak about
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: it for over a decade. Because one, I'm a guy. Two,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: no one cares, really. It's uncomfortable. People don't really. So
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: the fact that this young woman was brave so quickly after,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I have to pay attention to that.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: So the interesting storyline that has come from that is
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: another thing I saw, again, this is just alleged what
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing. I'm not 100% sure. So this thing happened
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: in April. Prior to that, he took the kids, Croy
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: took the kids and KJ's girlfriend on a spring break
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: vacation to Panama Beach or something. And allegedly there was
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: some type of physical thing that happened. I heard one
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: that Croy got angry and threw a pan at one
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: of the kids. And then someone said, no, it was
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: a pen, which could have made sense.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Pen, pan.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I could see how you can mix that up. Still,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: it would have been an angry thing. And that the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: girlfriend was there. So that's weird that you, I mean, listen,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I did not have a boyfriend I was having sex
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: with in high school. I understand people let their teenagers
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: have their girlfriends spend the night and things like that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I never agreed with that. I think. If they are
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: having sex, it should be a challenge to do that.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Not under my roof. I don't think it should be
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: on a Wednesday night.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's just disrespectful.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: When you have a Spanish test the next day. Priorities.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: You can wait until the weekend and go drive away somewhere.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: No bueno.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that situation was. It also just...
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: When you watch the old shows, which he has been
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: on the show since he was in her uterus, he...
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: uses horrible language as a little kid at four years old.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: He's like very rude to her where he's like, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: shut her up and get her out of the room
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: about Kim. And you would only hear that from Corey.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: And like, I mean, I don't know how this came about. Well,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: but the parents, it's the parents, it's the parents.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: It's obviously the parents. I think they both have a
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: responsibility here. And I think legally they should be held
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: responsible to some degree. If this all comes out and
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: it's not just alleged anymore, which it's getting harder to
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: say alleged at this point, but they need to take
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: some responsibility legally.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: There are so many screwed things that happen on both
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: ends of the Kim and the Corey. So this thing happens.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: She goes to the, the victim goes to the police
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: on the 24th of April. They get, they do their
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: investigation and then they let Corey know like in May
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: that we need to talk to your son. A couple
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: of days later, he then eventually talks to Kim, right?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: And they're kind of like, what are we going to
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: do about this? Now they both already know at that
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: point that there was another investigation done. Now what is
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: your understanding? Was that A CPS thing? What was that
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: that was kept quiet until the prosecutor said there's videos
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: on his phone under a private file?
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: So these are two separate things.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: So the juvenile case that was sealed, which it would
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: have been sealed and stayed sealed, was another alleged situation
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: with similar behaviors towards another minor. They didn't specify who
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: the minor was, obviously. Okay, but that wasn't the relative, right?
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: That one was not the relative. The videos were found
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: because prosecutors went through his phone, found a secret folder
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: that had these videos, and there was a lot of them.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: And it was with a family member under the age
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: of 12, and the language that he was using was
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: predatory is what they said. So two separate things. They
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: were just brought in together because they really wanted the
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: judge to say no bond. That's– for them to go
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: unseal the case.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: But I've heard different– so with these videos– We've heard,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: you know, from page six.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Sex with a minor relative videos. Then it was like, no,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: it was hair pulling and derogatory language. I guess we
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: just don't know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I think there might be a multitude of things. Let's
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: hope it was just hair pulling. I hope it was
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: just hair pulling. I'm not saying that because anyone deploying
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: with hair. But in the midst of everything, if that's
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: the only trauma that came out of it, praise God.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Because that is not something easy for a child to
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: go through, I can imagine. And also, the parents of
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: those people, now this was a family member, so that
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: makes me also think, because people are speculating, that it
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: was Kaya, the young sister, because she's now living with
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Croy's parents, who they never spoke to, by the way.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: So that's weird. Also, in April, why did Croy want
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: to hurry up and try to get full custody of
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: the kids? That was right around when all this was happening.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of questions, but it's stemming from them.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Their lifestyle was chaotic. They weren't home ever. When the
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: whole situation about KJ throwing... rocks and firecrackers at the
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: equestrian park.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: At the horses, yeah.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: While they were being, like, that's disturbing. And the neighbor
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: even said they've gone over multiple times. No one was
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: ever there.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Right. And then, but what was also interesting is, so
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: in this other report I saw, Kim left to go work,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: which I think was to go be on the Ultimate
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Girls Trip. Make a couple appearances there. And during that
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: time was when he then got.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Full custody or something.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Well, that's when they went to go to Atlanta for
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: the alter ego party. And the reason why I know
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: that was in April was because Angie was in D.C.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: in April. And that's where they went afterwards. So that's
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: why I know that was around the time that she
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: was not there.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Angie from Salt Lake City.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: So you know when they were filming.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Because that whole ultimate girls trip was only like. 11
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: days of filming. Yes. Okay.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: So I think Kim's never there. Croy probably is the
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: more hands-on parent, it seems, just based on the reaction
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: from seeing the body cam footage. But he's a disturbing man, too.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Well, did you also see that other clip that... this
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: would have been after this incident happened with this young
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: girl after April, there was a Kim that's coming out
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: with her boyfriend and the boyfriend's ex-wife is dating Croy.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: And somehow the paparazzi just happens to find her. So
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: she called him and she's able to get out, you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: an Easter egg as you will. And she says, um,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I wouldn't, I wouldn't want, uh, my
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: daughters around him. He doesn't want his daughters around him
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: or something like that. And I'm like, this guy is
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: standing there. If he does have daughters and his wife
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: is dating Croy, then they do have daughters. And she's
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: saying this. And I'm like, is she saying this because
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: she knows this is going to eventually come out and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: she wants somehow the blame to be on Croy.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, 100%. She's going to frame it that way as
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: it gets more and more exposed. She'll be like, he
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: was always this way. I can see it now.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was sexually deviant, and he must have shared
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: corn with the boys when they were little and let
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: them know that they– because there are little clips where
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: he will say, KJ, you're the man of the house
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: when I'm not here, and the kid's like four. He's
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: like a little tyrant. Yeah. And then also believing that
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: they are going to be these football stars, the two boys,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: and that could be another meal ticket for her. The
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: other thought is that just throwing it out there that
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: someone brought up and it wouldn't make any excuse. But
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: you wonder if in pursuing their teenage football career, if
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: there was any kind of stimulants or anything possibly. that
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: would add to anger behaviors. You know what I mean?
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I've thought about that too. Because if he,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: first of all, he's a giant kid, right? So just
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: that alone, like we're not treating him like he's some
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: little cutesy tootsie. He absolutely is probably watching corn and
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: lots of it. And the type of corn is also
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: important because there's been studies about this, especially with younger
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: men who only have, that type of interaction with Korn.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: And it's very specific Korn where it's like the woman
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: is not being treated so nicely kind of stuff. That
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: is their only knowledge of how to be intimate. So
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: imagine being pushed to be this big football star because
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: you got to pay mommy's way. And then you are just...
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: You're also a teenager. You're horny. You're like going through puberty.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: You've got all these things going on. But like clearly...
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: You're hurting animals. You're hurting children. Like, no.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just think it was really disturbing right
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: from the start when the world knew about the April
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: 23rd incident with the young girl at the gym changing room.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Kim went and made a statement and said he took
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: a polygraph. There was no physical evidence found. He passed
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: the polygraph. And this woman... She's 15. This woman has
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: made false accusations in the past. The attorney representing KJ
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: said a similar thing. And which just makes it all
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: the more horrible. Yeah. And, um, But, you know, it's
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: interesting because, you know, people really love Ariana, who is
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: on The Next Gen. They like her very much on TV.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: She did an interview with Gia in which she revealed
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: that Kaya is very wild and disturbed and can be mean.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: And all the kids.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Kaya or KJ?
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: No, Kaya.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: She said that.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: The little girl?
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she just said she's crazy.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: And then Gia goes, oh, so she's like the Melania
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: in the family?
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Melania since this interview did get arrested for acting out
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: at home we still don't know what will happen with
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: that um so she's like yeah I mean she's just
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: she can be nice but when she wants to be
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: but like she all the kids need therapy so the
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Ariana says that then Brielle did another interview with a
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: woman whose name I do not know and that's where
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: um Brielle the oldest daughter goes KJ's fast he's 14
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and he's asking for me to sell him money and
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: get him Uber so he can take out girls and
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: see girls. And they just kind of laugh about it.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: And I said this from the very beginning, will any,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: will either side use the fact that he has any
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: footage from the TV show and from these podcasts, will
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: they use any of it in their favor, either side?
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: And that would be a first of its kind. And
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: it would. And it's very sad because, you know, speaking
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: of Ultimate Girls Trip, I'm going to go back to that.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: But Ultimate Girls Trip is that these kids have been
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: on TV from the very beginning. And on this on
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: that episode, Kyle cries about it. And said, I read Portia,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: her youngest daughter's essays to get into college. And she
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: wrote about how she has no memory of her life
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: before being on TV and that every birthday party she
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: had a cold mic pack. stuck to her body and
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: every birthday, her birthday must fall in the season of
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: when they film.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: And, um, and that's, you know, something that they would
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: want to show in, in Kyle's life. And Kyle's like,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: you know, um, I never thought about that. I was
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: a child actor. So, you know, again, Kyle, you know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: didn't have a choice either. No. Her, her sister started doing,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: her sister started to do it and they were successful.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: And so then she came along on auditions and she
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: started working too. And that was what the mother had
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: to do. And it's like, there is a reason, and
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I've said this over and over, like child labor laws
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: only protect children that don't do entertainment.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: I was just going to say.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Like they can't work in a factory in America. They
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: can't work at the yogurt shop when they're nine.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Filming a TV show you can. Yeah. You know?
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: And of course with reality TV, there's no paycheck. There's
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: no residuals. There's no nothing. And that moment.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Was really good and sad and something that, you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: this is, this is the pinnacle of the worst headline
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: story of, I think any one of the, you know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: housewife type of stories, because it's like, Did we have
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: a monster on our hands? Was being on reality TV?
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Did it play a huge role? We'll never know. Would
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: this have happened if they were just a normal family
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: and the dad was an accountant and the mom was
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: a teacher? You know what I mean? Would this person
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: feel that entitled, be that arrogant, be that or having
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: all these people sweating in the Georgia sun, holding a camera,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: watching your every move. You're that fucking interesting at four.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: What that can do to kids in so many ways.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Well, if no one's there to humble him
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: along the way, right? My Greek parents humbled me every
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: step of the way. You are not bigger than your britches.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: And that's good. I'm glad they did that. I don't
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: want to be that disconnected and think I'm that cool.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I'm not. And so in this situation with him watching
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: that show back, you can see how we kind of
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: got here. They praise him when he's talking nasty. They
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: praise him when he's giving the finger to the cameraman.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: There are so many clips like when he calls and
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: she's like, hey, baby, we're driving home. And he's like,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: where's my food?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like just nasty. And it's just like, but you
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: think that's funny, right? But now it's not funny because look, right?
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: But you're still going to defend him.
• 38:12
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  Speaker 3: I would have... I think she made that statement thinking
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: they're never going to unseal that juvenile case. And the
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: district attorney was like, yeah, watch me.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: So.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: there was another case with somebody we don't know. There
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: were the videos that they found and we don't know
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: the extent of it with the family member. And then
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: there's this case that happened with a fellow student that
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: he knew who was the best friend allegedly of his
• 41:28
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• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Wow. Um, yeah, it's, it's, we'll see. Do you think that, um,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just would be shocked that she's able
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: to get any more sponsorships after this. But you know what?
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Nothing surprises me.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I was just going to say, I'm not surprised. I
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: think anybody's going to throw whatever. I don't think they're
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: going to pay her what they might pay another person, perhaps.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: But they might throw her a bone. I saw her
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: using some device on her neck the other day. So clearly...
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Unless she's making that up. Cause I know a lot
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: of them too, like Jax has been called out on
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: this where they pretend like they're having a sponsored post,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: but then it's like, they're really just trying to get
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: brand attention.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Right. If it's like a, a shop my or something
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: where you can, anybody can do it. Anybody can do that,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: but they can kick you off if they feel that
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: you like violated the morality things, but she has not.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: No.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, having a bad kid, having a bad brother, Well,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: it's like if you had a child that broke the law, do.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: You lose your job then as a mom? That's not really,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: you know. But she doesn't really have a job.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: And, like, where is she living? Like, I just watched
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Next Gen, and it was like, you know, Ariana was like,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go stay with– my mom was like,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: you can come stay with me. And I'm thinking, where?
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Where is she even staying? They don't have that house anymore. And, like,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Is she living with the new man? Perhaps.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: But– It just, to me, gives me anxiety just to
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: think about how that must be to be in that family.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Well, on my Patreon this Friday, I pulled up my
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: old episode with her.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to release it because it's extremely interesting.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: And it was from 2018. Oh, I got it. It's
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: really interesting. And you've got to listen back to it
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: because it's like, I was just like, oh my, you know.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: there were certain things that she says that is a
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: real eye opener to today. Um, are you going to
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: make it public or are you keeping it? I'm going
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: to put it on Patreon, patreon.com, just whatever people join.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: It's every Friday. There's like a thousand episodes.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: You have a lot on your Patreon, by the way, you.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Can, you can check it out, but I think it'll,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: and then I'm going to like, I, and I'll analyze
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: it too. And, uh, but it is really interesting. All right,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: let's move on to something a little funnier, crazier, or weirder.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I talked about this on the last episode. Channing Tatum
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: has denied using burner count to post hate about his ex,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Zoe Kravitz, who is dating Harry Styles.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Which is an amazing combo.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I think that's a great couple.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: This was so crazy. So I talked about it. Somebody
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: realized that there was somebody writing mean things about them.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: But then once in a while, they'd be like, Channing
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Tatum was so much hotter than this guy or something.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: And then someone looked at it and they realized that
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: it was like a burner or a bot or whatever.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: But the only person that was following this bot account
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: was Channing Tatum. Now he could say the only thing
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: he could say that's not that he'd say it's not
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: me is that he could say, hey, I was lurking
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: and I saw this person write nice things about me.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, let me follow them.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: That's the only thing you could say.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: That is the only possibility there. Why are you the
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: only one following a burner account that is pro you
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: and anti this?
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Like when I've seen like mean things about me.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: You know, I'll delete block. But sometimes I'll just click
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: on it just to see if they're a real person
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: or not. And sometimes they are. Haters can be real. Okay.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: But sometimes it's just exactly that. It's like a weird face.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: It's like maybe... like, you know, Arabic writing or something.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: And like, you know, some of that would never know
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: who I was. And then like, and they don't follow
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: anybody and it's one post or something.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: But sometimes it's Mary from Kansas and she loves God
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: and she's got labs running around and she's like, you're
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: the worst piece of shit. Yeah.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: So, but I would never think to then follow that
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: person that is, you know, Not doing any posts and
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: just commenting. So why would you follow someone that's just
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: a commenter?
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: You shouldn't be following anything. And if that's the case,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: you should have created another burner account to follow that
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: account so you could keep tabs on what's happening on
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: that site. He clearly doesn't watch Housewives. Otherwise, he would
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: have known.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: We've got to clean up the mess. We can't do stuff.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I think it's hilarious, though. And I think he did
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: create that burner account to do that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I do. I think my advice to him would have
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: been not to mention it because now I'm talking about
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: it for in a second episode where I wouldn't have
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: brought it up again today.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: See Channing, see what you've done. Yeah.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: So, um, listen, he'll do just fine.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: We don't move on in like two minutes.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But, um, yeah, this is them together. Look at
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: them looking so cute. Um, All right. Speaking of Real
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Housewives of Salt Lake City has begun.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: And, you know, you have some inside scoop. Now, right now,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: they are still mad at Lisa Barlow because they have
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: thought that she was the one that was working, getting
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: negative stories out about castmates over the years, which she
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: has denied. You see her breakdown when they had their
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Below Deck episode. It's not true. And she just feels
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: very alone in all of this. What is your thoughts?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: So I have become friendly with both Angie and Lisa. Angie,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: because Greek roots, obviously other things. But I think Lisa.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: You're part of the Greek mafia?
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: The thing that I think that's happening here is Lisa is.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: She's got all the boxes checked when it comes to
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: being a housewife, right? She can just, you know, za, za, za.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: She's got a hit song.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Hit song.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: You're just baby gorgeous.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: She's made people fall in love with Wendy's again. I'm
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: going to probably leave here, go to Wendy's, and then
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: probably have to go to Arby's because I just saw
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Angie's got her commercial. I've got to support both.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: I think they find her an easy target because she
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: is so easy to, like, kind of react and get
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: emotional and defend herself. And I think they feed off
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I do think there's a jealousy there. Of course. Because,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: you know, she does have her own thing going. She
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: still is with her husband.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: And.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: People like her and she is one of those that
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: you can imitate and do. So she's one that's more iconic.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: She got put on the Ultimate Girls Trip when the
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: other girls weren't chosen. She's the only one from Salt
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Lake on Ultimate Girls Trip.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: She's the reason that we have Salt Lake City. So
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: she should get Ultimate Girls Trip. This is why Heather
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: and everybody else who's, you know, fiending to get, you know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: like you're not.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Wait, is your understanding that when casting it, they found
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: her first? Or what are you saying?
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: I think they went to Lisa first because we're talking
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: about 20 years and OGs.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: But she was, she kind of was, she had her business.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: She pulled the show together.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Right, she had her business.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: So the backstory with Lisa, she filmed a pilot for
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: a different type of reality show based on this restaurant
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: that she owned with someone else. Then they were like,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: didn't really go anywhere. They threw it out. And then
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: that's when production came looking to see, hey, is there
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: anything cool going on she was like yes actually this
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: person this person this person let's do it so she
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: pulled it together.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: That's what I did I brought all my friends I
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: thought we'd have a great time how dare you they're
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: so sad they're so mean to me and I don't
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: understand I thought though I like her I love her
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I thought It was really nice in the world of
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: most people get divorced on Housewives.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: That they had this moment with Lisa and her husband, John.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: And because last season they had a very uncomfortable lunch.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Where he was like, don't interrupt me and all this
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: other stuff. And he said, I had these deals that
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: didn't go through. I was like jealous that everything was
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: working out for you and I was cruel to you
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: because of it. And I am like, oh my God,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: it was so refreshing. Because that does happen, especially in
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: a modern world where women are successful and do their
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: own thing and men's egos can be bruised and the
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: dynamic shifts a little. And I'm truly rooting for them
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: in the end. Like I hope to God they are
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: holding hands at 90 because I thought this was one
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: of the very few times. That an unflattering marital argument
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: on a reality show actually results the way, if you're
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: a housewife, you would hope it to.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: That your husband sees something and adjusts and you see
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: something and adjusts and you're able to be stronger for it.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: The only other couple I think that kind of appeared
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: to have happened was Emily and Shane from OC. Yes.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Where he then said, yeah, I saw I was teasing
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: her about her weight and I was insensitive and all
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: this other stuff and I want to really try harder.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: And there was that moment on that reunion. But it's
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: most of the time the guy's ego is already bruised
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: and then he has to. hear from all these bitches
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: everywhere in the Midwest watching him, saying awful things about him,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: and then he resents his wife even more for putting
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: him on the show, and then he really hates her,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: and then they get divorced?
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that for Lisa and John, they are
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: a solid couple because they've been together for so long,
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: and I think that they know who each other is
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: in the end of the day. People make mistakes, and
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: if you've been with anyone longer than five minutes, things
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: like this are going to happen. So if it's able
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: to be captured on camera... And then to have a
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: husband basically get emotional to the point where your wife
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: is getting emotional because she's like, I've never seen him cry.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting him to do all that. You don't
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: have to do all that, John. Just need a simple apology.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: But he owned it. And so that is the context
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of viewers don't have about her.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: When she's like, I'm doing this and I'm doing this.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: They think, oh, she's just, no, she probably is running deals,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: making sure everything is where it needs to be. And
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: he said, I was really hoping for this deal to
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: go through and it didn't. And it made me feel
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: like crap. And as a result, I treated you poorly
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: because you were out doing everything and it was working
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: out for you. And he's also got the Mormon culture
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: in him. The man is supposed to be the provider.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: And now look at the way this looks. She's the
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: one everywhere. And I'm just in the background, just following
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: her around. But I think they are a solid couple
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: and they respect each other. And I think that that
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: conversation was had obviously before the cameras went up. But
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: the fact that he was able to do it to
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: that extent and be emotional proves just in my opinion,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: how much he really loves and adores his wife.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that I remember on that
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: below deck was that Bronwyn had accused um, Lisa Barlow of,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: you know, leaking it to the press as you would
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: like the press. It's like you and me.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Are we the press now?
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Like leaking it to the press and about, you know,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: whatever issues she was having with, um, Todd at the
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: time they hadn't broken up then. And she, you know,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: she denied it and denied it. And now I believe
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Lisa Barlow because Bronwyn, um, They show this scene with Whitney.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: And Whitney goes, you know, Bronwyn's dating this hot guy
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: named Brandon. And, you know, she was like, keep it
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: under wraps, keep it under wraps. And I'm keeping the secret.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, somehow the paparazzi just happens to
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: catch them and it gets out. Well, when I was
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: at Kyle's white party.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to the two girls and I'm saying, Bronwyn,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: how are you doing? You know, cause at this point
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: we knew that they were separated because she said it
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: on the show and she's like, I'm great. I'm great.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I've got a, I've got a hot bottle in a
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: bed in Montana. I go, what? Like I literally imagined
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: like this guy just laying in the bed and being like, bye,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: have a good time at Kyle's house. Like literally staying
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: in the bed for 48 hours. And I'm like, who
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: is it? She's like, well, I met him during fashion week. And, um, Yeah,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: he was really, really great. He really, I'm just trying
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: to do my wrong because I'm thinking of 12 different housewives.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: He was really, really great. You know, met during fashion week.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: He's a model. And, you know, we are having a
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: great time in Montana and he's keeping my bed warm.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: And I go, does Todd know about this? She goes,
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: right now he doesn't. He's being really nice to me
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: and I'd rather him not know. And I go, well,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to keep your secret. Like, I want to
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: keep the checks coming for you. Like, if he thinks
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: you're going to get back together while you're fucking this
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: guy who is a model, like, I'm not. Trust me,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not. But I think the amount of times people
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: housewives have told me things and they want me to
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: spill the beans. But I actually am not that person.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not really like, I call it Juicy Scoop because
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: I get into what's juicy about it. But I'm not
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: really the one that's like, breaking it and I'm not,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: you know, demois and all that. And so I was like, well, I,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't say a thing. Then when I saw it
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: came out, I was like, oh, okay, well, okay. Now
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: I can talk about the, she told me that she
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: had this hot boyfriend and whatever. And so in this,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: in this scene, it's like Whitney's kind of like, so
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: now I'm like, all right, maybe all that finger pointing.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's bullshit.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: You, I think she went into the show and, Hoping
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: that either one of two things, which is whatever, hoping
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: that A, Todd sees what a dick he is, how
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: great she is, and tries again to be loving. And
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: she gets to save her marriage because he's super sweet
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: to her. And rich. And showing her that she is
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: the greatest.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: And rich.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Instead of eating her cherry and telling her no one
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: cares about you and being the old man from up.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Lumpy old man.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Or....
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Or I get the fuck out and have a great life.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: So she got the fuck out. She's having a great life.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: She looks, she looks good and living her best life.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: And so that's what I think it started from the
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: very beginning. So if she did, if they did separate
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: and she was seeing somebody and again, she might have
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: probably wanted him to know she, maybe she wanted Todd
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: to know so that he had one more chance to,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: To come crawling back.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: That was my that was my view for the whole.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: He was up paid for boyfriend, by the way. I
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: don't believe that that was a real fling. I think
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: that was kind of the Brandon guy. Yeah, because I
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: think it benefited him and it obviously benefited her, at
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: least for that time frame.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: I think they could have been boning for sure and
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: had some fun.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying, of course they boned. I'm just
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: saying there was no real, I don't think she was
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: like thinking this was going to be some new thing.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: I think she was just using it for what she
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: needed it for. She also knew, hey, I'm going to
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: be on the show next season. I need something to
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: talk about. But, you know, I don't, no one's ever
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: leaked anything to me from a cast, from any franchise.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Have I been in places where people are discussing experiences
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: that they've had and they say things and, To your point,
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: maybe they're like hoping that I'll bring it up. But
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: like I don't fall for that only because it doesn't matter.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: The two will make up or something will happen. It's
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: just like it's not even worth all that. But as
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: far as Lisa Barlow is concerned, yes, we have each
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: other's phone number. But so do me and Angie. So
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: the fact that Angie brings up on Ultimate Girls Trip, again,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: we're trying to paint this picture. Lisa Barlow is leaking
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: stuff to the press. But it's like what is she leaked?
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know what we're leaking all the time. She's
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: not leaking storyline. She's not leaking anything that it would
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: have come out by now. And also Lisa knows everyone's
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: going to come after her for it. So why would
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: she put herself in that predicament? But the only reason
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: why the whole situation with Angie came up was because
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: when she came to DC, she came to speak to
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Congress about American Franchise Act. We went to the event afterwards.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: We were talking. I had a bone to pick with
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: her because I said, you're believing Heather with this whole like, Instagram.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: We saw the last four digits. And I'm like, those
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: aren't even.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Wait, explain to people. I'm trying to remember all that.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Explain this story that the accusation about the Instagram account.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: OK, so last season on the reunion, Heather, Angie and
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Whitney were trying to prove that She, Lisa Barlow, owned
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: this burner account on Instagram. And the way that they
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: were able to validate it was they went in and said,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: forgot password. And now Instagram will either do one of
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: two things. It'll say an email has been sent, but
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: it will block out most of the email, but enough
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: that you know it's yours. Or it'll be a phone number.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: And in that case, it was the phone number that
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: popped up, but it was only the last four digits.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: And they all swore it was Lisa's number.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Last four digits. Right. Right.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying when I went and did it myself,
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: it didn't necessarily come back that way. Like it doesn't
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: necessarily give you the phone number first. It would have
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: given an email first because that's probably what was put
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: in first. so I was trying to make that point
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: and then my second point was hey Angie this is
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: not even her phone number which you guys should know
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: that but like this is her phone number and she
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: was like oh I see and I said maybe stop
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: trusting Heather so much because I think she's really the
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: one that's in my opinion, leaking things.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: And very nasty to her at the ultimate girls trip.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: So nasty. And she, she, but she is nasty. Like
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: that is, that's her shtick on the show is to
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: try to get camera time and start stuff and like
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: pick at people. And I think Lisa is just an
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: easy go for her, but I also think she's just
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: really jealous of Lisa and has always wanted to be
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: her friend. And, that is kind of eating her up.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: It's just like, she's not, I want to, I think
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: it would be really fun if it turned out it
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: was Channing Tatum. That was behind. He's a huge housewife.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: That's his kink. He wants to keep it on the DL,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: the DL housewife person. Um, yeah, well, you know, we'll
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: see what, what happens with, um, Whitney. We also see
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: that Angie and her husband are separated. Do you think
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: they're definitely headed towards divorce?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's a wrap I think it's been a wrap
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: for a while I I don't know if it was
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: done before the show and sometimes I feel like this
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: show kind of gives people the the window to be like.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Exactly what I said either we're gonna save it or
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: we're gonna end it yeah.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: But if it's not gonna work it'll get exposed and
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: then I'll have validation as to why it's not gonna
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: work like because then now everyone's gonna chime in and
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: be like he's a piece of shit and then that'll
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: be like but.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Actually he came off great He did. He came off great. But,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: you know, when been married a very, very long time,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: who knows? No one ever really knows what goes on.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: You know, so.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: I think the reality is.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: And then her life changed.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: I think Angie. She became a star. I think that's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: what it is. I think things shifted so much for Angie.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: Angie started prioritizing that more. And that obviously takes away
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: from marriage, family, all those things. And I think they
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: were probably already kind of more business partners up until
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: that point. And it worked. There's no cameras in your face.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: There's not an Instagram comment section going up. I don't
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: know if it was anything in particular. I don't think
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: he did anything horrific. I think it's just years of
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: not being real about the situation they're in and why
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: they're staying together, which was simply for electra their daughter
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: which she's old enough now i think they can both
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: co-parent in a way where that's not going to impact
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: her as much.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah um and then meredith.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: She is just new face who dis.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah so good for her yeah man.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: She took that facetune photo into the doctor she said
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: just do this please.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you why is she wearing a wig.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Because uh I got some scars or something still healing.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: So generally you'll wear a wig. Yeah. And it's just, it's,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: it's not as noticeable.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: And then also, um, yeah, their situation seems to have
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: worked out. They're one of the, they're one of those
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: couples that actually took the sabbatical from each other and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: got some fresh D and he got some fun too.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: And I realized like, no, actually we're good.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: And whatever their situation is now, it seems like it's solid.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Well, they have an understanding at the very least. Whatever
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: the new lay of the land.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Or that with the sabbatical. Sabbatical? Am I saying it right?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Sabbatical.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Sabbatical, yeah. I always thought it would be interesting, you know,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: if it was a norm in marriages that after, you know,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: so many years, you can each take like two years off,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: just like the Mormon missionaries go. You can take two
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: years off and then you can come back.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Go on your mission.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you go on your mission to screw other people,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: and then you come back, and then you're like, okay,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: I got it out of my system.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of hoping that's what's happening here with Kyle
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: and Mo.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Maybe they're on just a little mission, and now that'll
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: wrap up, and then we'll get right back to the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: family stuff, because I'm getting tired of this.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: You know, but I don't know.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: What do you think of Heather's new boyfriend?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: The most bullshit storyline I could ever. First of all,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: did you see how they tried to do the race
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: reveal thing? So they show all of these photos or
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: footage of Heather where she's only with men of color.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: And then they're like giving you the close up and
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: then they want you to see him pull the glove
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: off so you can like it was so odd. And
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: then it would have been fine. But then do you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: even ride motorcycles, sir? Because you used your hand to
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: put the stand down.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: That's what I brought up on Tuesday because a lot
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: of people brought that up.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: Did you rent this for the... What is going on here? Also,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: he looks like Sandra Bullock's ex. What's his name? Jesse?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, Jesse James.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Does he not?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: She was like, I wanted a bad boy. I wanted this.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: I wanted that. It kind of reminded me of Christine from...
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: What was it called? Secret Life? No, not Secret Life.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: What was it called? Sister Wives. Christine from Sister Wives.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: When she finally left Cody, she was like, I wanted
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: a motorcycle guy. I wanted a guy with tattoos.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: She was like a kid in a candy store.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: And that was the first guy I matched with on
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: the dating site or whatever. So it felt like that's
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: exactly what Heather said. Like I wanted, you know, a
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: little bit of a bad boy.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, I don't know if Heather's putting
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: him out there to just toss him out with the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: garbage because we're not dumb and Heather's not dumb. You
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: said you guys briefly dated in 2016. You broke it
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: off because he was talking to other women. But from
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: what I've understood, again, alleged, he was about to get
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: married to his girlfriend of 10 years right around that
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: same time in 2016. So is that why you guys didn't, like,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: did he not tell you he had a girlfriend on
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: and off that he was then situated? So whatever the
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: case is, they found each other again and she's like, look,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: I need a storyline and I can't use the whole
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: my kids are out of the house again. So can you,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: you know, pretend, like, come over, we'll just, like, you know,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: and I'll get my daughter to grill you, you know,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: like where you just, what kind of things are you doing?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: What do you like? Like that whole scene was just
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: so like, I don't know.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Cause I saw the recovery. She's like, yeah, it's out now.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: And she waited conveniently until it premiered. So nobody's been saying,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: you don't have to keep it a secret.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: You're not, I haven't seen them anywhere.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: You're not on the bachelorette.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: We've seen them.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Not a dinner, not an event, not a who's that guy.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: Have you seen her with any guy?
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: So she was dating him this whole time while they
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: were filming, but never was out. Well, Bronwyn needs to
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: give her the number of the person that snapped the photo.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: She needs to learn how to better be like, whatever
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: this is. Like she's so produced that it's like now
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: you're producing boyfriends from 10 years.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: She's supposed to have a reality show about the beauty
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: lab or did that not go?
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: I think she was supposed to, but I don't know
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: if it went, or maybe they're still working on it.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: I don't need it. Like I don't like I'm good,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: but yeah.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, how many, how many scenes can we see
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: of people getting needles?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: And what is this? What is it going to be
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: like a Vanderpump rules?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know. How are you feeling about 20?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Give me your thoughts real quick. I've already given my,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: it's stale bread.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Um, Vicky's ruined it. And you know, Tamara, you guys
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: got on her too many times. Cause now she's clocked out.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: We're not even getting anything from anybody.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: That's why I call it the real housewives of the DMV.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: They work at the DMV. They clock in, they clock out.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: They do. But I will say, I think another reason
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: why this is kind of hard to watch is, you know,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: for people as women, and you watch it as a woman,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: I like that Vicky is totally transparent. That's what we want.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: We want them to be honest. But as someone who's
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: looking at a woman who's, you know, 10 years older
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: than I am, it's depressing. It's sad. I don't want,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I want to see, it's why people are excited for
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: the golden life. I want to see a bunch of
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: women in their early 60s who are still looking great,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: dating guys, laughing. They have some money. They go on
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: some trips. They're very good being single. They're not looking
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: to get married. They don't need a guy. And that
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: is what, you know, maybe one or two of them
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: have a grandkid they see once in a while. Like
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: her story is so beautiful. sad. She doesn't see the grandkids.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: She doesn't see her other son. She, you know, is
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: hanging on to this boyfriend for dear life. She has
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: a fucked up knee. I'm just like, that is what
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: I think is not working. Then we see Emily, where
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: as a young woman, you're like, oh, okay, I've got
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: all my kids are now in school. Life's going to
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: get easier. You know, they, and then In her case,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: we find out that, well, even if your kids all
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: seem fine in kindergarten, one might not be fine by
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: nine years old. And again, that's her true story. But
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: it's hard to see. It's hard to have her be like, oh.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Luke keeps calling me from the restaurant. I'm like, oh,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: my God. I'm sick of hearing that Luke's ruining your
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: good time, Emily. That part is sad.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: This is why nothing's going on because we're leaning on
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: personal stories too much. There's not enough interaction going on here.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: If there was, there would be a splash of that.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: I get it to some degree, and I agree with
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: you with Vicky. I appreciate the transparency. I appreciate all
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: of that. But then be transparent about all of it.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: Don't come and pick and choose.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then, I mean, even with Tamara, like, you know,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: we're not seeing, and maybe they did show, but we're
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: not seeing about the businesses or their weed business or whatever,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: their CBD business that they grew or they have. We
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: don't see any of that. We don't see Eddie working
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: on it. We don't see them, like, before when they
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: had the gym, we'd kind of see them work at
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: the gym together. It was kind of entertaining to watch. Like,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: he's tapped out. He's like, I'm doing one sexy scene
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I'm going to one party only if it's at our house.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what she negotiated with him,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: but he's not in it. So we don't see any
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: of that. So that's also depressing to know that you're
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: on your third husband and you guys used to seem
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: really connected. And now you're being honest to say, like,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: we almost broke up, which is honest. You know, I
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: appreciate the honesty, but it is kind of why.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: Did you guys almost break up?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Probably.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Do you think so?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: Who knows?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Because I feel like sometimes it's hard. I'm not saying
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: she didn't. Everyone in the relationship has gotten to a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: point like, do we need to end this? But he's
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: not interested in any of this. And she's there to
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: do her job. But I think she gets penalized for
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: doing her job. So this season, unfortunately, she's tapped out.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: He's tapped out. Jen, I don't know what's going on
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: with her. She's annoying me. Shannon's falling and, you know.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: She even stopped falling. I miss the falling now. No, like, please.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: I'm just. Well, she just has the dog.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: She just has the dog. And then we already know
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: that one of the dogs is going to die. So
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: that's sad to see her with two dogs. And it's
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: just like sad.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: Also, can I just say, is someone going to be
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: around to take care of that dog if she goes?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: She's quite up there. Like, are we supposed to be
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: getting dogs at that age?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: She's hot dad up there.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, you keep falling like that. This is why
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: she's blocked me, probably. But honestly, I don't get it, honestly.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know what will happen with this one. Oh,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: I loved this on Ultimate Girl Strip. That was funny.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: So Lou was, this comes from this post, Trampoline, where they,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: she did this funny drawing where she's like, Life's about
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: self-respect and a little self. This is Luann. Nobody can
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: take you down. I love it. The Ultimate Girls Trip,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: thank God for Luann. She has a great sense of
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: humor about herself. When people imitate her, whatever, she loves it. Yep.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Unlike Shannon. She loves when people... No, Shannon does not
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: like you for that. Yeah, does not have a sense
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: of humor about it. Luann does. I would tell Luann
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: the next time I see her, I... like you without
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: the fedora.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Take that fucking fedora off.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: You have such beautiful hair.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: Gorgeous hair.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: You have a gorgeous face.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: Bone structure.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Constantly wearing the fedora, it just throws me off. Maybe
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: she just really enjoyed it for a while, but I
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: would rather not see the fedora anymore.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Is the fedora a cabaret thing or something?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: It is sort of a cabaret thing, I guess, that
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: she uses in the show.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: But do we need to wear it all the time?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I want to see.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Are we sleeping in it?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: I want to see her pretty face.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: She needs to hide that man somewhere.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: That man she's had for a while.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: She's told me about him. I know, but she needs
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: to hide him.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Well, she's, yeah.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: That's a good looking man for her.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see her on.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: The world of life and everything. I'm so excited.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Because she is funny. I love all the quotes. I
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: love all the things. And Portia is hilarious.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: So funny.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Portia and Giselle, they could do a funny thing.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: They need to put those two back on our TV
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: screen somehow.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: But they could do like a fun spinoff. Oh, for sure.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: They have like a good chemistry.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: You know what they should do? They should put Portia
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: and Giselle on like a simple life thing where they
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: throw them out in different situations. That would be fantastic.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're like, and also Portia just has a
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: happiness about her. But you know what I was going
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: to say is Portia, I think, is so happy now.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: But remember she had all those anger issues? I wonder
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: if it was because she was essentially kind of closeted,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: not living her life.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she wasn't being her authentic self.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's so happy now that she's with her girlfriend.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: Were you angry when you weren't being your authentic self?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: I was. No, but I think she's happy because she
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: can finally be free of all the stuff maybe that
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: she felt like she had to hide about herself. I
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: feel like there's something like.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Giddy.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Just like she took a big exhale and she
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: can just really go for it. It just, I'm really getting.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: It's lovely and she's so honest about it. And like,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: it's so great.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: I thought it was so funny when they were talking
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: about their kids and she was like, well, my baby
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: was born on a spinoff.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: And they're like, not the spinoff. Like that was so good.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Like she's just so.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: This is a great group.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: She's delightful. This was the perfect cast.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: They did great with this.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: It was interesting. Everybody has an interesting history. It's a
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: good mix. And even Vicki being kind of a downer now,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: she's added to the entertainment side of it. I will say,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: we're talking about it. So it was all good. We're
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: going to end on this Taylor Frankie Paul. Now Taylor
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Frankie Paul of Secret Lives of Women and Wives has said,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: I'm going to let my assistant run my social media.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: And people are like, well, are you the assistant, Shannon Tatum?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: What is this?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: Well, she changed it now.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Now what does she say?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: It changes every day. She still wants to create content.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, she says I'm going to post and ghost, meaning
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to post the stuff.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: It's more about her not being on reading, watching.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: But then I won't read all the things. So we're
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: going to see your crazy weird things, Britney Spears. But then...
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: We're not going to allow the comments. We're not going
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: to allow her to see the comments. Right.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: Mental health.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Well, then don't bother commenting, people.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: Then get off the app.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: And also, if she's going to post a ghost, you
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: don't need to comment.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: You don't need to post all this on Instagram. You're
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: not being paid. No one gets paid on Instagram.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Unless it's a sponsored post. Leave it on TikTok. You
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: could stay on the show, whatever you need to do.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's getting time. This is my favorite thing
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: that happened. This is from The Onion, which is a
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: very funny parody account. It said, God announced his departure
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Asserting that he'd had
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: enough of the drama, the Lord God, creator of heaven
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: and earth, shocked fans Tuesday by announcing his abrupt departure
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Though this series
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: has been a huge part of my eternal life, I
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: can no longer participate in good faith, said the supreme
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: leader of the universe. Frickin' brilliant, Onion. You guys are
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: so funny.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Give whoever made that a raise.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's so because it was literally like that.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: Everybody.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't care anymore.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to what I'm posting my departure later today.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've been edited out of every show at
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: this point. That's why I have to post my own clips.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: But I was going to make my announcement today. I
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: think I'm done with the show as well. It's toxic.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: I haven't, I watched like the first two episodes of
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: this season and then I haven't bothered.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: Season five?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't bothered to go back.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Because now I just said everybody's going.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: You might need to go back and finish it out.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: Finish the job because she gets crazy towards the end.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, so now.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: And also she comes off high.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: That's why they want to keep it, right? That's the
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: way they want to keep her is because it's that
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: craziness that, you know, at least it's not, we just said,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: you know, there's not enough craziness happening on some of
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: these other type of reality shows. But for her, And
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: being a mother, yeah, it's too much.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: She can only see her children four hours each a week.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: So eight hours total because you can't pass your drug tests,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: but you want to go film season seven. What are
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: you doing? Why is it that Dakota is the safer
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: parent for these kids to be with?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: I just don't think she knows any different.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: But you got to. You have resources. You've had opportunities.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: This is my thing. If she wasn't on this show
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: and this was happening to her, That's all she knows.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: It's Salt Lake City, I guess. I don't know. There's
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: something out there because there's a lot of this apparently.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: But she now has all of these resources, all the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: help that she can get if she wanted it. Why
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: are you fighting the internet?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: Like go fight for your children. That's what I want
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: for her. But I hope she stays off the show.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: She won't.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: She won't. She'll get itchy and then she'll be like,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: now I got to say something.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: Or they'll just find like four new girls that are like,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: we'll be with a psychopath. We don't care.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: We'll let her cuss us out.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We don't care. She can fuck my husband.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: I don't care. Could you imagine if you were in
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: your own home? Oh, you didn't see it. There's a
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: part where Jesse has the girls over to her new home. Okay.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: Jesse, who's the one who's dating Marciano.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: Right. From the villa. Who on this season is cussing
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Marciano out. She's trying to work it out with her husband.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: At any rate, this one here lit to all night.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: Like she's not sober.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: No. No, she's definitely on steps.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: I don't care what anyone's saying. She's cussing every... Michaela out,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: Macy out, and they're sitting on Jesse's steps. She calls
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Jesse over. Hey, come over here. Like, in her own home,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: mind you, Jesse follows like a dog, sits down, answers
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: her question, and then says something else. And Taylor's like,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking to you. You can go. And dismisses
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: Jesse off of her own steps in her own home,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: and Jesse does it. And I thought for a second,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: now hold on a minute. Jesse must really want this
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: job because... If that had been me and my friend
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: did that to me in my own house, then it
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: would be like, okay.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Or you've been friends with this psycho for so long.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: You're just used to them.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: That you are kind of into the cycle of abuse.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: And you're like, fine.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: I guess. But it's just at what end as an
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: adult do you keep getting to slide that she's been
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: through a lot or she's been through so much. It's
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: just like, yes. And so is everyone else.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: We can't excuse behavior like this.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: Right. Exactly.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: So stay off the show. The show can be done, frankly.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: I don't really care.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: They're not Mormon.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: They're not Mormon. None of them are Mormon.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: Go have a cocktail. Go do a line. Go live
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: your life. This is the problem. When you restrict everything
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: and you leave them with dirty soda, this is what happens.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Dirty soda. Giorgio Says is the man of the hour
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: of Juicy Scoop. And where can people follow you and
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: get all your fun content? Because you do lots of fun,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: creative things with these shows too.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. I try to make it interesting. I'm everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: You can look me up at Giorgio Says. My podcast
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  Speaker 3: is on YouTube. It's everywhere you stream your podcast. My
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  Speaker 3: music's available everywhere you stream your music. Thanks to everyone
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  Speaker 3: who's made Move Move West a hit for me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, awesome. I'll have to listen to it.
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  Speaker 3: I've been so excited about that. But yeah, check me out.
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  Speaker 3: I do share some unseen footage from Housewives scenes that
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  Speaker 3: I was edited out of, unfortunately. It's terrible. They do
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  Speaker 3: it to me every time.
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  Speaker 2: It's very, very funny. And you guys remember I will
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  Speaker 2: be At Cobb's in San Francisco, October 2nd and 3rd.
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  Speaker 2: And then in Phoenix, October 9th and 10th. Everything is
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  Speaker 2: at heathermcdonald.net. Also, November 14th, I'll be in San Diego
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  Speaker 2: with the hilarious Chris Frangiola. Everything at heathermcdonald.net. And make
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  Speaker 2: sure to check out my very juicy Patreon this Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: One reward. Endless choice.
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  Speaker 2: Skip the hassle.
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  Speaker 3: Reward the easy way.