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Show Up and Show Out with Justina Machado · Dos Amigos

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, how you doing. This is Freddie Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, this is one more about the rama.
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  Speaker 3: We are at the Dolsamingo's podcast and we have a
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  Speaker 3: very very special guest today.
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  Speaker 1: Yes we do, Yes we do.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you introduce our dear friend because yes.
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  Speaker 1: I think officially your ex wife. She she is.
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  Speaker 3: She she's my ex wife.
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  Speaker 1: And I had a conundrums on this. That's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: And I have no sisters, so she's the closest thing
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  Speaker 3: I have to a sister. And I really mean that
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  Speaker 3: in all seriousness, ladies and gentlemen, The incomparable, the the
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  Speaker 3: Tony nominated actress, the multiple award winning nominated actress. Every
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  Speaker 3: time she comes on screen, she is an undeniable four
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  Speaker 3: undeniable talent. It is my great pleasure to have my
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  Speaker 3: sister and my friend Justina.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: Moments like this that I wish we had a live audience.
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  Speaker 4: I know too, because so we could hear the ah, Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Goday, welcome, welcome.
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  Speaker 3: Wait wait wait, wait you got to repeat that story
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  Speaker 3: you were saying about your mother, he Wilmer.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get into.
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  Speaker 4: It, wait, look at it.
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  Speaker 5: Look at you guys, right, Okay, look at me like, okay, okay, so.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to bring anyone in from home, that's hello.
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  Speaker 5: We did celebrity family Feud, which I was nerve wracking.
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  Speaker 4: I have never done it. Oh no, I did another.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of pressure. Dude.
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  Speaker 4: A Maudi was crazy.
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  Speaker 5: We were it was Eva, it was it was Eva's team,
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  Speaker 5: Eva Longoria, myself, Anorthis A, Mario Olasco and Wilmer Valdama
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  Speaker 5: and Amaudi was.
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  Speaker 4: So competitive with you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Dude.
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  Speaker 4: He was like, you know, and I was like I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know what to do. And he was like, this
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  Speaker 4: is just supposed to be fun.
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  Speaker 1: It's supposed to be funny, right.
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  Speaker 5: But the thing is two things I remember Wilver, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: this is so hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Woman was like, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't even know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even think I've ever seen this show before.
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  Speaker 4: Literally he goes.
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  Speaker 5: She He's like, I don't even and I was like okay.
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  Speaker 5: And then afterwards my mother.
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  Speaker 4: Was like, oh my god, that guy's so handsome. Oh
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  Speaker 4: he's so handsock. It was like over and over.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, I get it, mommy, Mommy, Mommy had
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  Speaker 5: a big crush.
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  Speaker 3: I know what time it is, yes, yes, speak speaking
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  Speaker 3: of mommy, where is she at right now, my mother.
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  Speaker 5: My mother is in Chicago's in Chicago?
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  Speaker 3: Is that where you were born? Justina?
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  Speaker 4: Born and raised? My friend? You know, we both are
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  Speaker 4: from the city of Chicago.
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  Speaker 3: Where in Chicago were you born?
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  Speaker 5: You know, all over the place, but I mean born,
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  Speaker 5: I mean I grew up the first six years in
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  Speaker 5: Lincoln Park before it was gentrified, right when it was
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  Speaker 5: all Puerto Ricans and African Americans.
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  Speaker 3: So so we got it now, Okay, so it used
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  Speaker 3: to be fun. Yeah, we got to pause because we
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  Speaker 3: got to tell the audience and fun fact about.
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  Speaker 4: That about the place that you and I went to.
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  Speaker 3: So so, okay, Justina just said she was born in
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  Speaker 3: Lincoln Park, right, and this is this is an absolute fact.
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  Speaker 3: I too was born in Lincoln Park and we literally
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  Speaker 3: lived five houses away from each other when we were
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  Speaker 3: five years old.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and you, but you.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't need until I'm older than Freddy.
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  Speaker 5: So so yeah, you were like so wait, like a
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  Speaker 5: couple of years older than you think.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I'm just.
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  Speaker 5: Trying to because we left that place when I was
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  Speaker 5: six and then we moved to Humble Park.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because's when everything started, That's when it starts to
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  Speaker 5: get gentrified.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, think about that.
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  Speaker 2: At some point as strollers actually went across the street
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  Speaker 2: something like that.
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  Speaker 3: There was a there was a clinic across the street
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  Speaker 3: that we both used to go to, the infant well.
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  Speaker 5: Infant well for clinic, and I know, and every time
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  Speaker 5: I say that to people, they're like, oh, and I'm
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 4: Come from humble beginning.
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  Speaker 5: And so we went to the infant Well for clinic
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  Speaker 5: and we loved the infant Well for clinic.
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  Speaker 3: We loved the crazy We probably were both there at
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  Speaker 3: the same time and we were like five totally.
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  Speaker 5: And then he went to grammar school with cousins of
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  Speaker 5: mine because then we moved to the same area again.
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  Speaker 5: Then we were in Bucktown together. And so when I
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  Speaker 5: met Freddy, I was doing a play. I was nineteen
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  Speaker 5: years old and I was doing a play at Victory
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  Speaker 5: Gardens and Freddie's high school class came to see it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, when I was crazy fourteen fifteen, my class
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  Speaker 3: want to go see her play. Yeah. But even before that.
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  Speaker 1: So you saw her in.
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  Speaker 3: A play when I was like fourteen fifteen, that's so crazy, yeah, czy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And then we had the same agent and this was
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  Speaker 5: hilarious because we were the only two Puerto Ricans.
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  Speaker 4: So they would be like, do you know Freddy bradvec
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  Speaker 4: so you know, just you know Chattel. I was like,
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  Speaker 4: uh no, I don't know. And then I didn't know
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  Speaker 4: you yet. We were the only Puerto Ricans at A plus.
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  Speaker 5: And you know who our agent was, Jeff Garland's ex
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  Speaker 5: wife Mary Carla.
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  Speaker 4: That was our agent at age Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So we used to see Jeff when we were
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  Speaker 3: like teenagers and he used to come to the agency
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  Speaker 3: all the time.
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  Speaker 4: And I tested for was Jeff Garland.
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  Speaker 5: I was nineteen years old when they flew me out here,
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  Speaker 5: and I didn't know what the hell was going on
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  Speaker 5: in La. Remember back in the day, they used to
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  Speaker 5: put everybody at the Sofa Tel across the street from
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  Speaker 5: the Beverly Center. Do you remember that exactly? So I
• 5:34
  Speaker 5: was at the Sofa Tel man, I was like, what
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  Speaker 5: is this place? Nobody walks, nobody does anything around here.
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  Speaker 5: And then somebody told me you could just cross the street,
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  Speaker 5: and so I just crossed Beverly all crazy, and then
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  Speaker 5: every car stopped and almost hit me, and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I thought I didn't know you needed a crosswalk right then?
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  Speaker 3: And then one other thing her Graham when we lived
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  Speaker 3: both lived in Bucktown. Your grandmother lived on Wilmot a
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  Speaker 3: couple of houses was away from my parents. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: that was the last time that I had lived with
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  Speaker 3: my parents was when my grandma, your grandma. My parents
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  Speaker 3: lived right next to each other.
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  Speaker 4: And I used to work at that McDonald's.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Western, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: So I just had to get all that out there. Man.
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  Speaker 3: There was a lot of six degrees of separation before.
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  Speaker 5: But before six feet afore we were together six year
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  Speaker 5: six feud.
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  Speaker 1: It was the first time you guys worked together.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, first time we worked together. Yeah. Yeah, So we
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  Speaker 3: had met when we were when we were you know, teenagers,
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  Speaker 3: and then we and then we knew each other in
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  Speaker 3: LA when we had both we both moved out there
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  Speaker 3: about the same time.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we've in ninety five, I came out here.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. So were you guys kind of like buddies doing that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Great?
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  Speaker 4: Before six feet under everything? Yeah definitely.
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  Speaker 2: So how crazy is that that? Like, well, I have
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  Speaker 2: two questions. One is like, why were those years before
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  Speaker 2: six feet under? Like I know you guys were working
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  Speaker 2: a lot and all that, but yeah, but then but
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  Speaker 2: then then with six feet under where you started connecting
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  Speaker 2: of the dots or you guys connected dust before that,
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, we were hanging out around.
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  Speaker 5: Like we already knew that we were both from Lincoln Park,
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  Speaker 5: that we both from Bucktown.
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  Speaker 4: We knew the same people.
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  Speaker 5: And then his wife was also from the same neighborhood,
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  Speaker 5: so we knew a lot of the same people. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it was and those years, like they had an apartment
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  Speaker 5: in uh in Hollywood, I'm Franklin and Cherimoya and I
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  Speaker 5: had an apartment on Whitley and Franklin, and so I
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  Speaker 5: was always at their crib like she actually.
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  Speaker 3: She actually met my wife before, remember that story.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, we were there was a workout place in Chicago
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  Speaker 5: called Women's Women's Workout World, and somebody stole my coat there,
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  Speaker 5: my leather that I had just got from Berlinton. All
• 7:45
  Speaker 5: hell now, so Chicago is like and literally I went crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I was going crazy, like this is bushes.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody took my and then they went and called Elsie,
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  Speaker 5: who I didn't even know. They were like, there's this
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  Speaker 5: Latina girl up there going so crazy. And then Elsie
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  Speaker 5: came up and was all calm, as she always is,
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  Speaker 5: still calm and collected and uh yeah that was Elsie
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  Speaker 5: and I met each other there too, a women's workout.
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  Speaker 3: She was when she works, she was the aerobics.
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  Speaker 4: I took her classes, her classes. Yes, I took Elsie's classes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's so crazy, isn't.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: This introducing the newest sitcom? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, coming to you know, the world needs sitcoms.
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  Speaker 3: We had we had to get out all the facts.
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  Speaker 2: So you came to l A and you were like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna audition. I try this thing. What's the first
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  Speaker 2: thing you you? You grab one?
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  Speaker 4: I was in New York. First. I didn't come to
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  Speaker 4: l A.
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  Speaker 5: I went straight to New York because I really wanted
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  Speaker 5: to do theater. I wanted to be a Broadway star.
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  Speaker 5: That's really what I wanted to do. I wanted to
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  Speaker 5: sing and dance, and I mean, of course I wanted
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  Speaker 5: to do movies, but I really thought about the theater first.
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  Speaker 4: So I went to New York.
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  Speaker 5: And then they kept I kept getting flown out here
• 8:56
  Speaker 5: testing for pilots, and so I tested for Manto Williams
• 9:01
  Speaker 5: had a pilot and it was like a high scream.
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  Speaker 4: Of Manto Williams the talk show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And then he had a just randomly. So
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  Speaker 1: I was in Washington.
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  Speaker 2: He had a restaurant and he was seating at the
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  Speaker 2: restaurant at the table over and I was like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I won't tell what I was freaking out. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I.
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  Speaker 4: Haven't seen him and like, so I went in for that.
• 9:19
  Speaker 5: It was for CBS, and I didn't get it, and
• 9:22
  Speaker 5: I went back to New York. And then Dolores Robinson
• 9:25
  Speaker 5: do you know who she is? She used to be
• 9:27
  Speaker 5: a big manager. She was Rosie Perez's manager, Wesley Snipes,
• 9:32
  Speaker 5: Jada Pinkett, she was the first black daughter, Holly Robinson,
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  Speaker 5: her daughter who was on twenty one Jump Street and
• 9:38
  Speaker 5: all that. So Dolores Robinson tracked me down in Chicago
• 9:42
  Speaker 5: because I was home visiting, and she was like, it's
• 9:45
  Speaker 5: so funny.
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  Speaker 4: She was like, if you come to LA, I'll make
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  Speaker 4: you a star. And I said, and I said.
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  Speaker 1: I made.
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  Speaker 4: Thirty years later, I'm like, girl, I'm waiting.
• 10:00
  Speaker 5: So cliche. But I was like, I don't like LA.
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  Speaker 5: I don't understand LA. I don't want to go to LA.
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  Speaker 5: But then I my apartment, my sublet ran out, and
• 10:09
  Speaker 5: I didn't have anywhere to go, so I came to
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  Speaker 5: LA and then I stayed. My first job was Second Noah.
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  Speaker 5: It was a pilot with James Marsden, Jimmy Barsden. He
• 10:17
  Speaker 5: was back then. We played brother and sister. We're both adopted.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: Shut up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But then the show got picked up and I got
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  Speaker 5: fired from the front.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was my first like real.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: They're forward thinking, this is no They were.
• 10:34
  Speaker 5: Like, we were all different ethnicities. Basically, he's dead now.
• 10:38
  Speaker 5: So Brandon Tartakoff didn't think I was pretty enough for
• 10:42
  Speaker 5: the Road. That's just Hollywood, right, That's how you find
• 10:45
  Speaker 5: out because the casting director told me because she was furious.
• 10:48
  Speaker 5: So she's like, she's like, they're so ridiculous, they're so dumb.
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: They don't think you're you don't ethereal enough, pretty enough,
• 10:55
  Speaker 5: they don't, and so he wants to recast you. And
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  Speaker 5: imagine I'm twenty two years old. That shit was like
• 11:02
  Speaker 5: I was like, what am I going to?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 4: I just kept going. But it was the first big
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: thing I ever got.
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  Speaker 5: I was so young, and after that, I thought I
• 11:11
  Speaker 5: was going to get fired from everything for like years,
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  Speaker 5: For years, I was like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're going to fire me.
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  Speaker 5: Oh you know, I used to pray for shit like
• 11:18
  Speaker 5: to go away because I was so scared that I
• 11:20
  Speaker 5: was going to go through that experience again.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, Justine, I want to go a little back because
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: you know, you and I we grew up in very
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: similar neighborhoods, right, And I've shared this on the show before,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think it's fair to say that we
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: grew up in a neighborhood that was predominantly dominated by
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: gangs and drugs and all that other stuff. And so
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  Speaker 3: I've shared what my journey was coming out of that
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  Speaker 3: and becoming a professional actor, And what was your journey
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: growing up in that and coming out of that and
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  Speaker 3: becoming an actor. And I say this in the context of, like,
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  Speaker 3: that's not a normal profession that people go into where
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  Speaker 3: we grew up, Right, the majority of the people that
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: we grew up, Unfortunately a lot of them are better
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: in jail or whatever. So how was it that you
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  Speaker 3: got into acting when you were in Chicago?
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  Speaker 4: I got into it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I lived so many different places.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think I never had friends in the neighborhood
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  Speaker 5: because I never lived any like we just we went.
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  Speaker 5: I went to six different schools before I was ten
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  Speaker 5: years old, so so many different places. So it was
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  Speaker 5: mostly just family that I was around a lot. But yes,
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  Speaker 5: we were always in those neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 4: I think I was.
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  Speaker 5: Always in my own world in my head, even with
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  Speaker 5: all the crazy shit that was happening around me. I
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: always was like I don't belong here. I just had
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: it in my head like I don't belong here. This
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  Speaker 5: is so weird.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: People talked a lot of you know how it is.
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  Speaker 5: They're like, oh, yeah, you're an actress. Everybody would ask
• 12:50
  Speaker 5: if you were an extra, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: What made you even go I'm going to be an actress?
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  Speaker 3: And what was the first step towards you?
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  Speaker 5: I think I was young and I wanted to like perform.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to be a singer actually.
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  Speaker 5: And then I was in high school and my best
• 13:10
  Speaker 5: friend who's still one of my best friends today, her mother,
• 13:13
  Speaker 5: Mita Nassa La Sarre, was the only Latina agent in Chicago,
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  Speaker 5: but she was my best friend's mom. So I was
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  Speaker 5: eighteen years old, I just graduated from high school.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know what I wanted to do. I wasn't
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  Speaker 4: going to go to college.
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  Speaker 5: I was working at first American Bank on Adams and Wabash, right,
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: and then she called me at the job and she said,
• 13:33
  Speaker 5: I know you're not an actress, but there's a theater
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  Speaker 5: looking for a young girl your age for this play.
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  Speaker 5: But I think you have great stage presence because I
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: had done the Puerto Rican pageant and all of that,
• 13:48
  Speaker 5: and so I went because I was so desperate. I
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  Speaker 5: was like, I don't know what the hell I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to do in my life, and I couldn't see me
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  Speaker 5: living working at a bank for the rest of my life,
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  Speaker 5: you know. And so I went to the audition in
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  Speaker 5: and I got the role, and then I just kept
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: on what was Miriam's Flowers mcdalia Cruz wrote it at
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  Speaker 5: the Latino Chicago Theater.
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  Speaker 4: That's how That's how I got into it.
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  Speaker 5: And then Jan Ramirez kept saying he was he was
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  Speaker 5: the artistic director. He kept offering me another play and
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  Speaker 5: another play, and he's like, so you think you're an
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  Speaker 5: actress now, and I'm like, no, I'm not an actress.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to figure out.
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  Speaker 5: What I have to do because it was so ridiculous
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  Speaker 5: to me to think of acting, you know what I mean, Like,
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: because nobody nobody supported it, right, Like everybody was like,
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: you're a joke, you're an extra and nothing wrong.
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: And the extra.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: You said those things were their family friends.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, family too, not crazy, not crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That family is the worst friend you have when you're
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: trying to make it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Wilm, you can say, girl.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry I was. Did you hear I called girl
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  Speaker 4: all the time?
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Literally, I got called girl all the time. Everyone of
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: my companies.
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  Speaker 4: Like girl, girl, girl, literally family.
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: I remember Freddie and I had an episode on Six
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  Speaker 5: Feet Under where I'm having a we're dancing at the
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  Speaker 5: night club, remember, and I was that. I went home
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: to Chicago and one of my cousins was like, I
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: saw you on that show.
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  Speaker 4: You can't even dance.
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  Speaker 1: I was like that crazy. It's it's not that you're
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  Speaker 1: on a fucking.
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  Speaker 4: Show that you're like that I can't like.
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  Speaker 5: And I can, by the way, But the thing is
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: is like that's the ship that I would hear and
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: we know this in the neighborhood, or or you don't
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: even have that many lines. I watched you with that
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: and you didn't even how come you're not on the poster?
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: How come you're not? I mean, it's all I think
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: that that's what we can. I say we because I
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: think did you go through that too. I think that
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: that's a big thing of where we came from, is
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: that everybody was always talking mad ship.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you think.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: That's projection.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: Because I don't think it's projection.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's obviously projection. To your point. I
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: think you made a really good point there. I think
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: the overlayer of it is that everyone believes that's not
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: for us.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, that is that it's like, it's.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Not for us, you're crazy the thing you're gonna do it,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: that's right, because it's not for any of us, Yes,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: meaning Latinos, Latinos our kind, our story, where we come from,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: whether grandma just came from doing this in you know,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, or Dominical Republic of Venezuela. They're like, oh, yeah,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: that's what we used to do. Come out here to
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: just survive. We don't come out here to dream.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: Oh that is so real, Warmer that.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Like I felt that in my heart
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: when I was coming up. I felt it in my heart.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: We have this multi generational we'll just we'll just go
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: until the light stays on you know, and and then
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: on it's about keeping the light on. It's not about
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: expanding the backyard. It's not about getting an extra room.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: And what it's just keeping the light on is the surviving.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And it's just like it's literally the curse that gets
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: passed on to her children, so I think, and that's
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: where it came for me, that's for sure, because all
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: my cousins were like, not all my cousins are some.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: You know, but but some cousins were like, put like this,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: my dad's brothers.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: We look at my dad be like oh my uh,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: my dad's brothers and my mom's sisters. Sometimes their cousins
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: would be like like, oh, my kids just got honors
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: in mathematics.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I'm failing math. I'm failing math.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: And then she'd be like, well, my son just got
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: another play, and it's like it's really interesting. They're gonna
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: about getting to college. My son hasn't applied yet. Like
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: it's like I was the failure all the way up
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: to like two weeks ago.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, think about that. Yeah, I just keep it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, just keep it super real, and I want
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: to pass the past the ball back to you on
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: that On that note, because this is where we break
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: multi generational curses, and these conversations are the one that
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: tells the next gen and the next young And so
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I don't have to take the truth
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: of the people I trust the most.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like I trust.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: My my my uncle, my tea and my tea and
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: my cousins to wish me well. And when they don't,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: they may have a point, like we're here to tell
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: you they don't have a point.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: It's like, your story is your story to tell, and
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: whatever is within that story, it's what's on your book,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: not what they deemed was possible for you. So I
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: think a lot of this stuff coming from circle. I
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: love to hear your perspective on that, because I think
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: that's that's where that comes from.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I believe.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I think it comes from that too. They don't believe it.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, of course they believe it now because we've
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: all been successful, right, But I agree with you you
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: said two weeks whether that was literal or not.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I feel the same way about myself.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I might.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: My own mother didn't watch Six Feet Under because she
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: said that shows weird.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: I'm not watching it. She's like, yeah, she didn't watch it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: She's like, that's just weird. That shows weird.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, why don't you keep that to your
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, I get it, but it's like, how do
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: you not go like it really took a long time
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: for them to to be very supportive, and now that
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: they're so supportive, it's weird.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I don't even know how to take it, you know
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: what I mean. I'm not gonna lie.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I wish I wish you still hate.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, why be so nice about it?
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: You know, I think that's exactly what it is. And
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: also I remember my mother once said this, and I thought, oh,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: it makes so much sense that she wanted to be
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: a dancer, and you know, but she probably felt I mean,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: she was born.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: In Puerto Rico.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: She grew up like really in I mean worse than
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: we did in the city, and she didn't have any
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: options any and she was really they were very poor,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: you know, so they just don't believe it.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: That's what it is.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: And it took me a long time to get over it,
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: to not think it was, to understand where she was
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: coming from, to understand where my cousins were coming from.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: You didn't come from a bad room yes, it took
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: me a.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Long time, a long time.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: I think I was in my forties when I literally
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: was like, girl, give them a break. You know, like
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: you always were brave, you had a lot of courage.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: You know, it's like not everybody has that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: And also my mom got married when she was sixteen
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: and had me at eighteen.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: You know, so.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Not until you.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Prove it to yourself that you can see where they
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: came from. Yes, because all the way along the way
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: it felt like, well are we family? We're not family?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I know it's you know, and we all have very
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: similar stories like that. And no matter what the profession is.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: By the way, anybody who's like listening and watching now,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: you know you may have it experience some of this
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: adversity when you decide to do something that the family
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: has not achieved.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Right, you know that's so true the fact.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: And what was I thinking, Oh god, it was about
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: the family. You see, this is what happens when you
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: when you're preme.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: The hormones. The hormones haven't kicked anything.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I also think that there's something that that that comes
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: with like immigrant families or there's a certain one track mind, right,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: and if you deviate from what that one track mind is.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Then they go. Then then they don't know how to
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: compute that, and sometimes it comes out as they're hating yeah,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: and it really is, and they just don't know. They
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: don't know how to process.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: They don't get it, and they don't want to leave,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Like they didn't want to leave Chicago, you know, like
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: they were like so crazy about me leaving Chicago. Yes,
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: they were so crazy about it, like because they wanted
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: me to be there and help, you know, like that's
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: what we do. I'm the oldest, I'm the oldest child,
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: I'm the oldest daughter. There's five of us, so it's like,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: you know, like my mom thought I would stay there
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: and help her, which I understand. I left and helped her,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: you know, but it was this whole thing about leaving too.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: That was a big deal in my family.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: So so the pilot that you had did your first
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: big second that's second, Noah, you got cast out of Chicago.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: No.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I was living in La. I had just moved to La.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: So what made you?
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Loris Robinson when she saw you.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: When she said, come on, make your stock, make your stock,
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: and I and I also.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Didn't have anywhere to live in New York anymore, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Lauda was here.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: So I came to live with Lauda, our friend Lauda,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: who was on the R for fifteen years, and she
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: got that gig like literally three months after we got here.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn, girl, it's gotta be that easy.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: She got that gig fast.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait, so you went from Chicago to New York.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: And when you went to New York, was it for
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: a gig or you were just like, I'm moving to
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: New York to try to.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: I'm because I realized that I wanted to be an
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: actor and there was only so far it could go
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: in Chicago.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: So I had to leave.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: And so the next step was New York because in
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Chicago there was nothing I could do except regional theater,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: you know for the rest and commercials and industrials. Remember
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: that back in the day industrials there was.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Some shows, industrial commercials.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, those industrials did all of those. Oh my god,
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I did so many of those. But yeah, I was like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: I'm only going to be able to work at the
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Good Men, at Stephen Wall at that kind of stuff,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: and then I'm not going to be able to do
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: anything else, you know, because a lot of things didn't
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: go to Chicago.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: That's when everything was here.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: So you come to LA and then you're like, oh,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: this HBO.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Show And you know, that was five years later.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: But I wonder.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Was h was the was was six feet under a
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: moment of like, oh, I'm really doing this? Or did
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you feel that feeling of ownership before that show?
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: I felt a feeling of ownership before that show. The
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: only thing I wish I would have felt, excuse me,
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: during that show, was worthy of being on that show,
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: because I didn't feel it, you know, and I felt
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: very like the odd person out, do you say, because
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: I was just insecure. I was just young and insecure,
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: and it was just, you know, I was just yeah,
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: and it didn't have anything to do with the people
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: that we were working with. I was just young and yeah,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: and I was just like, I just never felt a
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: part of it. And and you know, I was glad
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: that I got asked back every year because that showed
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: that because I was I started off as just a
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: guest star. I was just I had like two episodes,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: and then they kept asking me to come back and
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: asking me to come back, and then finally they made
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: me a regular, so I think I didn't know how
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: popular the show was because I was freaked out by
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: it because I was young and insecure again, so when
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: people would come up to me, i'd be like all
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: weird about it. Instead of like being like cool, I'd
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: be like yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: And that's the ship I got from being from Chicago.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: I hate that because you know, there was no support
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: in Chicago, so you're like, yeah, what do you like?
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: So I was very weird about the whole thing, like
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: people loving it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: I felt like a weirdo. But then when it was over,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I was like, Oh that.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Was that was a pretty good gig.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: That was pretty gig, And I didn't know how popular
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: it was because there was no social media.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Sure, so I felt it when you when you went
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to a grocery store and everybody otherwise, it felt like
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you were nine to five.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. Did you feel the same way for the
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: seventies show. It's true, like you just felt like you
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: knew that people liked it and watched it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: But I was still going to high school on my
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: first Year's a that's cute.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: It was pretty crazy, you know what they used to
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: say to me, And he goes, why do you look
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: like that because of your hair, and why do you
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: sound like that. You're not even the cute one on
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the show. I'm like, but I'm supposed to. It's supposed
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: to be funny. It's like I'm like trying to like
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: make up for the fact. They're like, no, it's like
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: it's part of the joke.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: It's like on my phend what school did you go school?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Taft High School?
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's right, that's yeah, yeah, yeah, I
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: know exactly.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Why theater there? And then yeah, between my junior and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: senior year, that's when I got.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: So, wait, you came to La from Venezuela when I
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: was fourteen?
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, why La are there?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Like my dad had a brother here?
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yea, so we came and my dad had
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: a brother here and we just heard from scratch and yeah,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: you know, I had to learn how to speak English.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Wow, you know that's.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Crazy, it's amazing.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, tolready that, he goes, yeah, I didn't even know
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: English until this age.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: I was like, really, I've known you twenty five years,
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: so that means that, but then you've only known English
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: from from that time when I known you, only like speak.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: English, had like fifteen sixteen is where I knew and
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: then then I booked the seventy show at eighteen.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: But but okay, I know this is I'm the guest here,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: but I want to know, Like I know, I look
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: at me like I'm oprah WINF.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I know I'm you get a podcast, but you'll get
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: what I want.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: I just will get back to me. But I want
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: to know why you were, Like what made you decide
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: to be an actor?
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: So when I was living in Venezuela, it's mandatory for
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: students to take an arts class. So you're either a singing,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: you're either dancing, or you're acting. That's great, that's like
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: a mandatory class you have to take. And that's a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: very Latino shit. Yeah, So when I was in Venezuela,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I lived in a very small town. That's the only
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: thing we could do. It's just like to have fun
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: and just do school activities. We learn how to dance,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: we learn how to sing. So I was singing and dancing,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: acting and whatever. When I came to the United States,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I made the conscious decision that you know, I had
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: nothing to relate to any of these kids about. It's
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the most petrifying scariest experience in my life. So then
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I signed up to the theater class because it felt
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: like the one thing I knew, Like I knew I
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: was free on stage and like I wasn't feeling awkward
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: on stage like I was outside of the stage when
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I went back to school activities like that, like singing
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Nancy whatever, I felt like I belonged. So when when
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I was on stage, the more theater I did, the
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: more it forced me to read, it forced me to
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: speak aloud, and I was carrying on this little fake
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: conversations on stage that didn't have the courage to have
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: outside of the stage. Yeah, So the more the theater,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: the better my English. So the faster I learned how
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: to speak English. So and the more I did it,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the more I fell in love with it. And the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: more people like, oh, you're pretty funny, you should give
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: it a shot commercials or whatever.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And that's the rest is like the grind, right, But yeah.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's see, that's so that's kind
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: of you fell into it, kind of like I fell
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: into it. But but I did always want to do something,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: and I.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Always had it in my head.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: I did fantasize a lot about it, and I did
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: make skits up all the time and made my brother
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: do stuff all the you know, like do plays all
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: the time. He was like tired of me already.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't know where it was gonna go. Yeah, but
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I knew I could do it right, you know. And
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: then I had the delusion of feeling of like, I mean,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: how hard can it be?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: And then that's when.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: And then I started booking because I was just like, oh, okay,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: so I know my lines and swing for the fances,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the part, and like I was just
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: sucking getting the parts.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: That's basically when.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: But it is like a bliss to inno sense of
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: knowing that you know, you you thought people were wishing
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: you well yeah you know. Yeah, so that so you
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: felt like you had that support until that, like you
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: start winning and be like really didn't.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Support you, you know really, but back.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: To you, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: But you were already quite accomplished before six feet. I
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: remember you also did that pilot and you were and
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: you were but you were like the lead and what
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: was it called I Love Loop and you played looping.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I remember that.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a great pilot. Actually, that was a
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: great and that's was that comedy. That was a comedy,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: and that was a great pilot. And it was castle
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: Rock and Fox when castle Rock was around, and I
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: remember when we didn't get picked up, the president of
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: castle Rock called me and said, the pilot tested so well,
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: you tested so well, but we don't believe that America
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: is ready for a Latino family.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And I guess who was told? Guess who was still
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the same thing? You too? Well, yes, all of us,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: at some way we would tell it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: But also Desier naz and and was told the same things.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Did it And isn't that fucking sad? Sixty years later
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: they're like, still there's still that conversation. Well, maybe it
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: wasn't sixty. It was like probably thirty, because it was
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: like nineteen sixties, right, nineteen fifties. But yet literally I
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: had no comeback because I was conditioned to believe that
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: that was true.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Do you know again, it's not for us.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: It's not for us, and they're saying it like nothing.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: And literally I was like, oh okay, I remember completely.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: I said, oh okay.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: And then I called Dolores and she was black, and
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: I said, he said, America's not ready for a Latino
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: family and we maybe made a joke about it whatever,
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: and then we just kept it moving.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: But that that was like terrible.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine how many shows could have further culture on
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: screen that never made it on screen because some marketing
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: idiots and at a studio or a network said, hmmm,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: well America digestic this way, But then every time they
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: allowed us to lead, it goes bunkers. For example, like
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Desperado was one of those things where you are like, wait,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: what like the Mexican guy, yeah, beasts where and then
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: readefines pop culture r like it's it's that type of
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: stuff that like I always think back at everything that's
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: on the shelf, everything that just didn't go because some
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: marketing persons like, how do we sell this to our existing.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Audience of twenty eight million people?
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: By the way, like many people in those twenty eight
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: million people you thought are not Latino?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like it's it's anyways we can go now.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Rabbit hole because it doesn't change, you know, and it's
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: like it changes for a little bit. It's frustrating. It's
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: frustrating too. Another thing that's frustrating being a Latina actress.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Excuse me.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you go through this, but a
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: lot of I'm so tired of being asked what it's
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: like to be a Latina actress, you know, on every
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: freaking TCAs.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Or this or that, or like, so, do you think
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: it's getting better? It's like, why don't you ask?
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: What's crazy is that we never asked.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: We never started our careers being Latino actors.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Never.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: We started out as actors and as artists and whose
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: heart was Latino? Yeah, but we were performing like anybody
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: else would have, you know. But now it's this trigger
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: point and like, well, now you have a category.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Now you have box, you know, which we never had
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a box.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: Before, and they remind you all the time and that
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: would be something great. And now I don't answer those
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: questions anymore, and I because I'm sick of it, and
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't want.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: To answer that.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: The context is dumb, Like it's like any freaking show
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: you're on and it's like, oh, so do.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: You think it's getting better for Latinos?
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Do you think?
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: It's like why are we talking about the project? Why
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: are we talking about this? Or or me being a
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: certain ethnicity and uh portraying another ethnicity. That was a
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: big deal on one day at a time that she
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: was Cuban and I was Puerto Rican and that is
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: so stupid.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Sid sh Ever that the culture does.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Really wrong, that we perpetuate that ship too, you know
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. It's like, I think it's ridiculous. I
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: think that people should put in the work. We're not
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: all the same, We're not a monolith. We have different accents,
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: we have different ways of speaking. But that that's any
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: even Caucasian person from.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Your wing the way. But your win is my win
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: and his win is my win.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Specifically at a time where our culture is being muted,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: you needed you know, shelf and and also a shrunken
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: from contribution to the country. So this is these moments
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: are really important for the next generation's confidence, especially iFly
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: the Latino community. So I mean to your point, I mean,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: it's it's never been more.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Critical, never been more critical for us to stop that
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: and to just you know, support, support.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: We gotta show up, we gotta show.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Up for each other always. And it's like we'd say
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: that a lot, and I think that we do. We
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: do it a lot.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Get a little better.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: That part is getting there, especially because.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: We continue to meet.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, It's like people like the three of us and
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: the four of us and the ten of us and
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the twenty of us continue to meet and be like,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I know you're Mexican, I know I'm Puerto Rican, I
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: know on Cuban and and like, and we're continuing to
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: show up to each other's premieres and things like that.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: But we have to change it because otherwise the next
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: gen just takes their lane and continues to be passed on.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: And I think part of that change is what you
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: did on that show on one day at a time.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, how incredible that you got
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: to start in that show, how incredible that you got
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: to work with, how incredible that you got to be
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Rita Morano. But but that you got to be the lead.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: That you got to be the face of that show.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: And you deserved every ounce of it, you know. And
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: and me, I mean obviously because you're my sister, and
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: so like, I was proud for many other reasons from
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: an artist, from from from somebody who's in this business.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: What made me incredibly proud was that you were leading
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: the show and it was and it did well, and
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: it became commercially viable, and you proved that it didn't
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: matter that it was an all Latino cast, Like, you
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: prove that people watched and it did well, that that
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: that it made money, that that it that it gave
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: all the people who green light, all the people who
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: put the money down for your TV show, It proved
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: to them that we could make them their money. So
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: then that means that they could put more money down
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: on the next one, right, Because really that's what it's about, right,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Is this what Wilmer just said, Right, Because if you
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: win and you prove that you can make money, then
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: that means that I win, and that means it gives
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: me a chance to do something. And then if I
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: do good and I proved like I could make money,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: and it gives Wilmer a chance and so on and
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: so forth, you know, And to me, I feel like
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: that's sort of the engine behind it is we got
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: to just keep proving that we could, we could be
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: a commercially viable force.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so crazy, and you did it. We did it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: But even like you know, I won't say the name,
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: but somebody really big at Netflix came up to me
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: when the show first Uh, and we were at Norman
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Lear's house and he goes, can.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: You believe how the reviews on this show? Can you
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: believe they like it?
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: What mean?
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Exactly.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: I think he meant like, Wow, I didn't think, like
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: all the things you just said, that it was going
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: to be viable, that people were going to care about it,
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: that they were going to care about a reboot, that
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: maybe they were just doing it because they want to
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: work with Norman Lear. Who wouldn't want to work with
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: Norman Lear so they give him.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I know it was.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Beyond that, because I've had conversations about this over there.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Oh really, Oh nice, It was beyond that. It was
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: beyond that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: They knew that the Latino community was an important audience
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: member and a very exciting new member for the platform itself,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: and they knew that they needed to cultivate that audience
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: by giving them a place on that screen. So so,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I know, it was definitely your achievement in the shows.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: And you were one of the first shows to actually
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: really test that water doesn't work.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: At this platform. Yeah you know, so it wasn't normally here.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Wow. Okay, well that's good to know. And I was.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: But you should take those flowers because the truth is,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: you know, the show might have had the right pedigree
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: with the right producer who understood the science the blueprint,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: but the truth is a blueprint and a show or
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: an infrastructure that's worked for the type of shows for
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: decades means absolutely nothing unless there is a heart that's
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: beating on that screen and that audiences are saying, that's us,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: that's me, that's so and so, and that.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Only worked because you brought it to life.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: And sure you got writers, sure you got producers, but
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: it's your ass on that screen telling people this is normal,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: this is for you too. And so I'm not gonna
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: lead the dilemma of like, whose fault was it that
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: it actually made it on TV? Because you can trust
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: a producer, but then when he goes to serious, you
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: got to trust who's on that screen and you got
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: to let them drive it. So I, for one thing,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: and I hope that from today and on you you
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: take that credit and you tell everybody else that that
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: sh was possible because we did it right.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: So it's important to.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Me that you don't you know, you know, you know
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: that normally is an icon and it's a beautiful He
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: was a beautiful, beautiful heart.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: And he was very inclusive and he made a lot
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: of efforts.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I mean he worked a lot with Botta Latino, so
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I worked a lot with him and all the bsas
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: and all things we did.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: So he cared about our culture, you know.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: But the truth is he allowed you to cook and
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: he put you in the kitchen because you know, we
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: all know how to make a meal for everyone else,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you know, And and that was important.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Wilma, because I was the greatest time. That
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: was one of the greatest times of my life?
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: Was it?
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Because the best show I've ever been.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: On in my opinion, I mean, like, you know, like
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: because it was stories being told by us. Everybody. Everybody
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: there every day was so willing to play and there
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: were no egos.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Can I imagine the energy.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. And it was just like we just family.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: It was true family. It was what I always wanted,
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: like when you're on a set. And one of the
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: things I always said is like, if I ever get
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: to be Number one, which is the star of the show,
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I am going to make sure that everybody has a voice.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be a jerk.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: I'm not, you know, because I dealt with a lot
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: of jerks, you know what I mean, with their I've
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: dealt with a lot of that ship and I'm like,
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to do any of that everybody, and
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: it was so inclusive and I didn't and you know, like, yeah,
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: certain things. I had this last say, like I wanted
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: cold downstage. Everybody hated me for that, but I was like, but.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: By the way, that's an all that's an all sitcum
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: thing though, yea, and people don't know this part.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, because if the sound stage is warm, you're sluggish.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, if it's cold, you're.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Sharp, exactly so.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: But I had Rita Moreno, who you know now she's
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: ninety four, she's about to be ninety five. She was
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: like eighty five, so she was always cold. And then
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: Isabella's from Colombia, so that she was always cold and
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: everybody was like, it's so cold.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: I was like, too bad, I don't care.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: Like that was the only time I literally would put
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: my foot down, like I'd put the foot down on
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: the temperature, and yeah, that's about it. Everything else, I
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: was not gonna step on anybody's toes, you know what
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Like the way people had stepped on my toes.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: So but it proved that you could be a leading woman.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: And do you feel like that's what led to do
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Laura's roach.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, Delora, that was such a good shot.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you had a blast with that. That was
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that fun.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: That was actually that was super artistic and bizarre because
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: we were shooting in a basement in Toronto, like a
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: sound stage, and everything was handheld. And I won't say
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: I had fun. I don't think it was fun, but
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: I think it was because I was eighteen hours on
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: the setter.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I was in every shot.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: I was in every shot because I was it was
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: supposed to be from my point of view, so it
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: was like a video game. So I was never not
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: on set, so I was in every every shot. So
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: they didn't tell me that, by the way, until I
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: got there. They're like, oh, you're in every shot. I
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, I'm the star of the show. They're like, no,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: you're in every shot. When when you walk out the
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: scene ends, I was like, oh, so even if I
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: was in the background just looking or stuff like that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: So that wasn't so much fun. But what was fun
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: was that it.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Was so interesting and and out there and amazing and like,
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: and then everybody when you're in Canada, like nobody really
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: comes visit, so you kind of.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Like on your own, so you get to do you
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: know what I mean.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: You don't have a lot of executives showing up, you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: So it's like we were in our.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Own little world creating this.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: And I think Amazon made a big mistake by not
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: giving us the second season.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: How many episodes is that eight?
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: And literally I think it deserves another.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: How many days did it take to shoot one?
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: We block shot it. That's the new thing everybody wants
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: to block shoot now, which is doing two episodes at
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: one time. So which I thought was if.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: You block shot it, then you didn't have You didn't
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: you didn't have a Well I would say that you
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: also didn't have the burden of a big budget in
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: the sense that you didn't have to make a lot
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: of that back.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: So they could have just given you a second season.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Of course they could have. I don't think they liked
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: the show.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Is either creative or they're saving money like those two things.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: I think Blumhouse loved the show. I don't think Amazon,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: the people that were in charge of Amazon at that time.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I don't think they ever liked it.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: I think they didn't understand it because we had to
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: actually reshoot a lot of the pilot, Like it changed
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: a lot because it was it was grittier, it was darker.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: The original world.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that like the original pilot, And they were like, no,
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: we got.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: The marketing for that was so cool.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, it was so great. But also we
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: were doing during the strike, yeah, the strike. That also
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: was whacked to me because like I was all about
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: the strike. But what I didn't appreciate is them giving
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: waivers to like people in cans or waivers for this
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: when it's like, okay, they don't need the waivers. Uh,
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: this needs a waiver, you know what I mean? This
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: first show that but you.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Have to shut down, you couldn't come back to work.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: Well, we couldn't do any press, right, so because there
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: was no writers.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Jimmy Kimmel wasn't on none.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Of those, none of those talk shows, so we had
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: no press, absolutely no press. And then the writers were
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: on strike so they weren't allowed to even speak either.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: So uh, it was just kind of like come out
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: no press, Sonny.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: How quickly you forgot about.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Those days, like like COVID, Like what I was crazy
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: during COVID.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nuts, and I mean.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: The show must go on for us, and it was
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: like we had such a heavy lift for the network
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: at that point, and it was annoying because we were
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: the first show in production out of all Hollywood.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: We were the first to go in production, so we
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: were in law in La in La.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: We were the first guinea pig. So basically we had
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: to wear a mask and a plastic shield, I know,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: and then we had to have obviously six feet apart
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: of our chairs and the dividers, and it was it
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: was eerie, weirre. And then we had the A zone
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: had their own walking route that the B zone could not.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: So if you were the principal.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Cast, no one was allowed to talk to you, no
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: one was allowed to commute with communicate with you, and
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: only one PA was allowed to be part of the
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: A zones so they can answer questions or whatever. But basically,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: from a moment you got you didn't see I didn't
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: see our crew member's face that entire time, you almost
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: forgot you like recarass people by eyes.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, and then you're like I did dancing with
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: the stars during COVID, like right when. And that was
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: the craziest thing because I took it because I was like,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: there's no work, Okay, sure, I'll do dancing with the stars.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: I did dancing with the stars, and I thought it
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: was going to be so fun, and it was great
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: because it took my mind off of COVID and it
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: was just about the dancing. But we didn't get to
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: talk to anybody. The same thing too, We couldn't talk
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: to anybody. Remember the COVID police they were actually called
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: the COVID police, and they would separate us and we
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: had no audience, so we had to stand there while
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: everybody danced.
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  Speaker 2: So got forbid, God forbid anyone in the in the
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  Speaker 2: zone a hit COVID suspicion or had any symptoms.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were shuffling this scene.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what it was?
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: It was crazy?
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy, but on too happier times. Yeah yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So let's let's go to New York.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: So you're in New York and you say I'm going
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: to do a play and then you decide to do
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: this incredible play.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: Well, let me tell you, I'm not in New York.
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: I'm in LA but let me give you a little
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: background on this incredible.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I know, I mean, like we're now transporting us to
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  Speaker 2: New York for that moment, but go ahead.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: For Roman cur Yes, well, I want to tell you
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: that I did.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: I originated the role of the daughter when I was
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: nineteen years old at Victory Garden.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: That's the play he saw me I was fourteen.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: And then thirty years later I originate Wait, not thirty
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: years aren't that old?
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: No?
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, thirty years later maybe ninety two. Shit, it
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: was so.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Then ninety three didn't ninety three I did?
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: That is fucking thirty years.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: So then thirty years later I originate the role of
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: the mother on Broadway. So Sergio Trujidro, who I'd worked
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: with in Mambo Kings in two thousand and five, that's
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: where I met Jimen Camille because Jimi Kamide was like
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: this big star from Mexico, but this was his thing
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: when he was coming to America to start his career,
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: and he did that Hymen. So Sergio was the choreographer
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: and then Sergio and his husband got the rights for
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: the play Real Women Have Curves, but they wanted to
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: turn it into a musical. So then he just always
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: had me in mind for the mother, and I thought,
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: I'm not the mother because the play was so different
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: than the musical. It was like I just didn't feel
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: like I was the mother, even though I'm older now
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: than the character and the thing.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: So that's how it came about.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: And then I did the workshop and then we went
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: to Boston, and I did that because I said, if
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: I'm going to do this on Broadway, I'm going to
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: do the out of towns too, because I don't want
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: to just come and somebody creates that role and then
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: I take it. I feel like that's unfair, you know.
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: So I did Boston and we were at the art
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: there and then we went to Broadway. So it was
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: like two years of like workshopping and going to Boston
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: and then Broadway.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's know you you so so so you do
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: that you you you uh you know your rectors play
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: on Broadway. To take me through the moment where like
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: you get a phone call and they're like you've been
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: nominated for Tony.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: Well it was a very lonely moment because Broadway is lonely,
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Well, because especially like musicals
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: because you can't see anybody. You're you're protecting your voice,
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: you're not going anywhere. So it's like a little bit lonely,
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: you know. Like so I was laying down of course,
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: not talking. It was like, you know, because you wake
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: up like this, You're like, you're like, you go like this,
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Oh God, do I sound today? And then you have
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: to like steam and you do all these things. So
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: I was I was like, I'm not watching anything. I
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: don't even know there's no TV anymore. How did we
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: even know? It was not the nominations. Yes, I was like,
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: I'm not going on social media. I'm not doing it.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing it. And I was just lying in
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: the bed in the West Village on Jane Street, lying
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: in the bed, and then I get a text from
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: my old agent that' says congratulations, and that's how I knew.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: And I just I went by myself to a little place,
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: Joseph Leonard In right across the street from it's in
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: the village, and I had a cocktail and I had
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: like a martini and I had like a chicken sandwich,
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: and I was talking to the bartender and I was like,
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: I was just nominated for Tony. Yeah, I was just
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: nominated for a Tony, So I like was walking around
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: by myself. I was all by myself because you know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: I don't live in New York.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: I eventually feel the impact on the culture because all
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: of us, I hear they were like, yeah, like we
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: were just calling and texting each other.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: We're like, I mean, it was. It was definitely a
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: big moment.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: No, I definitely felt it and I felt all the love.
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: And listen, all the girls came April twenty third. I
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: remember there was like thirteen, Eva Longoria, Sophia Bergaro, you
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: name it, like everybody, Jessica.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Alba, all of them, Becky g they were all there.
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: I literally felt like all the love from them, Rosalind Sanchez,
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: they all came on that day to support and take
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: pictures and it was amazing. So, yes, I felt it,
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: and I also realized what a huge accomplishment it was
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: because I went into that and I was like, I'm.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Going to get nominated for Tony.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: I'm going to do this because I know that work
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: that I did on that stage was really really great.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Oh God, that you were so proud of yourself for that.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: Every night I was proud of myself because there's nothing
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: like the theater.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: There's nothing like it.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: You know, it should pay more and there shouldn't be
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: eight shows a week. That's archaic, but there's nothing like
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: like everybody there, and especially Broadway and the light on
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: you and the energy and.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: You being a sitcom like you know, God, imagine you've
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: just been in front of the live audies.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: I love a live audience. I love a sitcom.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: I think sitcoms are the greatest jobs around the right.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, we kept trying to get fred to be
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: my boyfriend on the show because Gloria I was such
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: a fan of us on Six Feet Under.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: But bull it just never worked out.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: And we always were always trying to say, well, like,
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: can we get Freddy for this one? Because I had
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: a few boyfriends on the show and we always wanted
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: and I was always like, oh, it would be so great,
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: little like things, you know.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I would have been so cool.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I find sitcom to be to be a muscle. Man.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: It's a It's a muscle that I have not developed
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: as much as you guys have, but.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: You would do it out the way.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm you're a.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: Movie Freddy Freddy was making movie after movie that president
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: like Walk in the Clouds, the past.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: He won't forget.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: Okay, So when you say, what was it like when
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: we first got here, it was like it was.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Mostly me looking for a job and Freddie making movies.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure that's what it was.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Like I have you know, he's so humble about that
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: that I have to flex for him, like I have
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: to literally bring that up on the show.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: He's just he.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Doesn't ever want to talk about all the movie harsh times.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: That's one of my favorite that that movie was great.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: Him and Christian Bale, Oh my god.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: You guys and Terry Crews crew on the show and
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: they talked about that guys.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: So what about the movie you do with Champagne Solvely.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: That's a great movie directed Nick Cassavetti's.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: That's a great story too, because that's another time that
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: I was insecure like a dumb ass, you know, Like
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: Nick Cassavettis was like, literally, he's like, you're the.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Only one we kept in the movie. We didn't.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: We cut all the other people. And I was like,
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: oh god, look at my teeth.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Like I literally was in ADR.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: I was in the ADR talking man shit about myself,
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: and even Nick Casavetti's was like yo, I mean like relaxed.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: And then and then he comes up to me and
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: we were supposed to be rehearsing, but he didn't tell
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: me we're going to improv.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: I had no idea.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: I'm like twenty two years old, improving with me. So
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: he goes, what's your name? And I go, just see
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: him a chatto.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: And then Nick.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: Cassavetti's goes, no Justina name, and I said, well, I
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: didn't know.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Nobody told me that's not a question.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: Also, my character didn't have a name, but because Sean
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: Penn started to improv with.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: Me, they kept all of that in. I made up
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: a name.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: I always wanted to be Carmen Rodriguez because I thought
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: that was the most beautiful Puerto Rican name ever. Carmen
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: Rodriguez I love because my name Justina Machado, it just
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: it's like, what is that?
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: You know? I love?
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Just see him a chatto. But I always wanted to
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: be Rodriguez because to me, that was like.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Well, so there's so many of them.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth, it's like Smith the Smith.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah you're right, it is, Yeah, you're definitely the Smith
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: of the Brown People.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: But She's so lovely. Was great.
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: I loved that movie. And that's a great scene. By
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: the way, it's only one scene. But and that's another thing.
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: When I went through that movie, they thought it was
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: an extra or back background I'm sorry, back then it
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: was that word, but they thought it was a background artist.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: And so I'm standing there for a long time and
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: I was like, and he's like, but who are you.
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I told you I'm playing this, and he goes, oh,
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: they had just I can't.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I can't with with ads and pas who don't do
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: the homework on that.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Who is who? I mean? I promise you not on
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: my sets. Everyone.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: You got to read the script. You gotta have a
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: cheat sheet of everyone's photos. And even if your background
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: like the fuck, yes, like yes, respect, yes, they want
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: to water, get them a water like the fuck?
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: So anyways, we can we can go. Let's not it.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: On that note, listen on the fact that we have
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: one of you, and we're very not only proud but
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: privileged to be able to see your legacy play out
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: in front of our eyes, and uh, you're one of
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: our greats and you should really never forget that.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Thank you, You're one of the great legends.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: Listen YouTube.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: I'm sitting with two legends right here. Come on, we
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: all did that. We all broke the doors open for people.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: We look young, but it's.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: Like especially Freddy, Oh my god, Freddy. I mean, come on,
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Freddy still looks like a little baby.
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, Justina, thank you so much.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: For being on those legends.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Wilmer Valderrama's just Toreddie rodriguezs And thank you
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: for watching.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: We'll see you in the next episode. Eight