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Taylor Frankie Paul “Cheats” On Her Fiancé, And Bachelor Nation Members Join The Mob! · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today, Ashley,
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  Speaker 2: that is me, and Ben, why am I weird, are
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  Speaker 2: breaking down Bachelor Nation headlines for you. We got ballroom
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  Speaker 2: dance floors, floods, and celibacy.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot happening. Hello, Ben. How are you? I'm
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  Speaker 3: so good. It's good to be with you. Good to
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  Speaker 3: be with you. You want to dive in these headlines?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, please.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, let's start with this one. Dancing with the Stars
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  Speaker 5: is back on our televisions. Derek Hough awkwardly calls Tyler
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  Speaker 5: Cameron Dylan during Dancing with the Stars premiere.
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  Speaker 2: So Dylan, Dylan Efron was on last season. So Derek
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  Speaker 2: has just probably got Dylan still on the mind. And
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  Speaker 2: there's just like a general like sexiness, I guess, that
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  Speaker 2: comes with both of them.
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  Speaker 4: So it's easy to get them mixed up.
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  Speaker 2: But after Tyler's dance yesterday, he said, there's something Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Swayze about you. Dylan, Dylan, you have this like Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Swayze-or about you. And that's a little awkward. And I guess,
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  Speaker 2: did anybody correct him? Yeah, did anybody say?
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  Speaker 3: Nobody said a word.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody said like, oh, hey, that's Tyler, not Dylan.
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  Speaker 3: No, we just let it sit. It's better when you
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  Speaker 3: just let it sit. That's so funny.
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  Speaker 2: I will say that since the beginning of Tyler Cameron's fame,
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  Speaker 2: I've always thought that he was Swayze-like. There is something
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  Speaker 2: about him that feels like Patrick. I don't know why,
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  Speaker 2: but I like it. And everybody else does, too.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor Frankie Paul reveals.
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  Speaker 5: OK, so this is this is one, Ashley, that I
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  Speaker 5: need caught up on because I've tried my my heart
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  Speaker 5: to catch up on the Taylor Frankie Paul stuff when
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  Speaker 5: it came to Bachelorette, post Bachelorette, all the storylines combining.
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  Speaker 5: And now all of a sudden we're in this text
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  Speaker 5: thread with I heart and our producers and I'm getting
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  Speaker 5: videos sent to me of people that I've never heard of.
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  Speaker 5: And so somehow along the way, I didn't know about
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  Speaker 5: this Ben Lambert story. But the headline reads this way,
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  Speaker 5: and then you can help me understand what in the
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  Speaker 5: world is happening and where Ben came in. But Taylor
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  Speaker 5: Frankie Paul reveals real reason for Ben Lambert breakup.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Ben.
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  Speaker 3: Ben.
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  Speaker 2: When she became the Bachelorette, not only did she sleep
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  Speaker 2: with Dakota the night before leaving for it, she was
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  Speaker 2: also talking to this other guy named Ben. That is
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  Speaker 2: actually disrespectful to the franchise. You know what's more disrespectful?
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  Speaker 2: The fact that she gets home after getting engaged to Doug,
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  Speaker 2: and she admits that she was engaged to Doug, like
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  Speaker 2: it's basically spoiler alert on this season of Secret Lives.
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  Speaker 2: She goes and she cheats on him with this guy,
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  Speaker 2: Ben and Dakota.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say I knew about Dakota.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we all knew that she went back to Dakota
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  Speaker 2: for a moment and we're like, oh, my God, this
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  Speaker 2: girl's so addicted. But actually, she also cheated on Doug
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  Speaker 2: with this guy, Ben.
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  Speaker 5: Did she like has she talked about that? She actually
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  Speaker 5: really liked Doug or she just feel like this was
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  Speaker 5: a stepping stone or has she brought that up at all?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to bring producer Heather in to explain that
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  Speaker 2: because I know that she's watched more Secret Life.
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  Speaker 4: She's probably watched the entire episode.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I watched the whole season in a span
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  Speaker 6: of 24 hours.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 6: So she calls Doug a clout chaser. And so when
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  Speaker 6: her cast members are actually like, hey, when are you
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  Speaker 6: going to tell Doug that you are back together with
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  Speaker 6: Dakota or you're seeing this guy, Ben? She's like, I'll
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  Speaker 6: tell him when I when I feel like it.
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  Speaker 4: But they're currently engaged.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And she goes, or I'll tell my lawyer to tell
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  Speaker 6: his lawyer.
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  Speaker 4: She's like, that's gross.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my God. Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: I have to, I know I'm, I have to admit
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  Speaker 2: it's gross and I'm intrigued to watch it. But why
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  Speaker 2: did you agree to be the bachelorette? That's actually pissing
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  Speaker 2: me off. That actually pisses me off.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you have the same sentiment as a lot of
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  Speaker 6: her cast members because they ask the same thing kind
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  Speaker 6: of over and over again to her. And just to
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  Speaker 6: go back to the Ben thing, um, You guys actually
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  Speaker 6: did know about Ben because when we were doing Frankie Friday.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I wanted you to come in for this
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  Speaker 2: too because you were doing detective work on some other
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  Speaker 2: guy that you thought she ended up with from the show.
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  Speaker 4: But in fact, she was missing him from before the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 6: So remember we did that deep dive on Frankie Friday
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  Speaker 6: once where she used a very special song on Instagram
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  Speaker 6: and I couldn't track down who the artist was or anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And then some of our sleuthy listeners were like, hey,
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  Speaker 6: it's this guy named Ben. He's this singer. So that
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  Speaker 6: was him. So she was seeing him before she was
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  Speaker 6: announced as the Bachelorette. We saw that end up playing
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  Speaker 6: out a little bit on the last season of Secret
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  Speaker 6: Lives of Mormon Wives. Then she says goodbye to him, whatever.
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  Speaker 6: She gets offered the Bachelorette. She's like, yeah, I'm going
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  Speaker 6: to take this. I'm going to do this. And then
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  Speaker 6: in the first episode of season five, she gets home
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  Speaker 6: and she goes, Yeah. Ben like sent me flowers when
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  Speaker 6: I got home and I just got butterflies. Like I've
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  Speaker 6: just always been thinking about him. And like the second
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  Speaker 6: he reached out to me, I knew it was him
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  Speaker 6: and not Doug.
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  Speaker 3: So do we see Ben on secret lives?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 6: We see a whole lot of him. We see a
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  Speaker 6: bathtub scene of them. Um, and then I'm not going
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  Speaker 6: to lie. As soon as they have this like romantic
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  Speaker 6: bathtub scene, they meet up in New York. He has
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  Speaker 6: to stay in her hotel room cause they can't be
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  Speaker 6: spotted together. She dumps him at the end of that trip.
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  Speaker 6: And then that's why she did this whole long post.
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  Speaker 6: And Ashley can get into it where she talks about
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  Speaker 6: celibacy and the need to break up with Ben.
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  Speaker 2: OK, I'm sorry, but I don't care about your breakup
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  Speaker 2: with Ben. And she's all like sad about it. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm sad that you went on The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 2: You got engaged to this man named Doug and you
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  Speaker 2: went home and started cheating on him so openly that
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  Speaker 2: you were like filming scenes.
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  Speaker 3: With this guy, Ben.
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  Speaker 5: That's where I get confused. And Heather, you have to
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  Speaker 5: help me make sense of this. And so obviously The
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  Speaker 5: Bachelor world is involved. They were excited or intrigued with
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  Speaker 5: Taylor Frankie Paul becoming The Bachelorette. I'm just like kind
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  Speaker 5: of spitballing here because I'm walking through my thought process
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  Speaker 5: trying to make sense of it. And so she ends
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  Speaker 5: up with somebody from The Bachelorette named Doug. And then
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  Speaker 5: she also knows that this, her stepping out on Doug
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  Speaker 5: is going to be shown to the public. Like this
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  Speaker 5: isn't even being done in secrecy. This is being done
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  Speaker 5: so the public will watch on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Heather, this is where my question now comes in. Did
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  Speaker 5: she not think there would be any consequences.
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  Speaker 6: No, quite the opposite. She is very aware the entire
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  Speaker 6: time she's talking about it. She's like, oh, Bachelor Nation
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  Speaker 6: is going to hate me for this. Like, I, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm dead. Like, this is not going to look
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  Speaker 6: good for me. Let's also not forget the fact that
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  Speaker 6: NDA what? She goes around to every single one of
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  Speaker 6: her cast members in the first episode and basically tells
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  Speaker 6: all of them, oh, yeah, this is who I chose. Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: this is who I'm engaged to. Like, every single... on camera,
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  Speaker 6: but it's like, it's not secret. Like there, there was
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  Speaker 6: no keeping this a secret at all. She was walking around.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody knew how her season ended before it aired.
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  Speaker 5: But, but there was a social media videos put out there.
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  Speaker 3: I remember these.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't reference the exact timeline, but we broke them
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  Speaker 5: down during Frankie Fridays of her and a guy, but
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  Speaker 5: the guy's face was never shown.
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  Speaker 3: It was like his arm was, Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you so much for bringing those up, Ben. They
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  Speaker 6: negate talking about any of that in Secret Lives because
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  Speaker 6: once basically the season gets pulled and we get to
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  Speaker 6: that part of the timeline, that's when they shut down
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  Speaker 6: filming the show.
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  Speaker 2: They say we have shut down filming and then they
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  Speaker 2: say we've resumed now filming?
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  Speaker 6: No, so they shut down filming and they show like
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  Speaker 6: different social media clips talking about the situation and stuff
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  Speaker 6: like that. But like, that's kind of where the season
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  Speaker 6: ends is like, yeah, they did like confessionals and stuff
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  Speaker 6: like that. But yeah, there's not like a storyline after
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  Speaker 6: of like Taylor sits back down in the chair and like,
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  Speaker 6: you know, we see life after, you know, the show,
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  Speaker 6: like all of that is not part of this season.
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  Speaker 6: This is only five episodes this season.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, Okay, so let me read this post, Ben.
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  Speaker 2: I want you to react to it because this is
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  Speaker 2: her post about the guy, Ben, the guy that she
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  Speaker 2: was cheating with. This is a hard post for me
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  Speaker 2: to write because a lot of emotions come to the surface.
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  Speaker 2: Ben is a reminder that there are good men out there.
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  Speaker 2: He was patient, gentle, kind, and understanding and trying to
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  Speaker 2: get me out of a cycle that I was in.
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  Speaker 2: We've gone our separate ways, however— He will make for
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  Speaker 2: an amazing husband and father one day, and I hope
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  Speaker 2: he finds that person to give all that back to him.
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  Speaker 2: She said that her nervous system remembered while watching the
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  Speaker 2: show back what calm felt with him. He helped me
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  Speaker 2: through panic attacks, listened to me cry, held space, and soothed.
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  Speaker 2: He reminded me that I'm a good mother, even struggling,
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  Speaker 2: and I hadn't heard those words in years, which meant
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  Speaker 2: so much to me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry for the heartache I caused and have told
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  Speaker 4: him as well. Wish nothing but the best, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 1: Blah, blah.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like, where's your sorry to Doug?
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions here.
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  Speaker 5: I'm still trying to make sense of this whole thing.
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  Speaker 5: And we haven't really heard a lot from Doug. We've heard,
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  Speaker 5: it feels like, a lot from Shane, who was like
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  Speaker 5: her runner-up or something, I guess, during this season. We
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  Speaker 5: see him out there. He's on a new show. He's
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  Speaker 5: on social media traveling with Bachelorette. We don't hear a
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  Speaker 5: lot from Doug. And it's interesting, you know, this whole thing,
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  Speaker 5: how it's playing out with them– The bachelor world, I
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  Speaker 5: just have a lot of questions and I wish we
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  Speaker 5: could get somebody on who is helping make the decisions.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if I agree or disagree. I just
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  Speaker 5: don't know what's happening. It's been a long hiatus. The
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  Speaker 5: men were kind of prompt. They tried everything to make
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  Speaker 5: these men like celebrities in their own right or known
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  Speaker 5: by bringing them to events and doing these social media
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  Speaker 5: things with them and promoting who they are as people
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  Speaker 5: and saying how great they were. And then they just
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  Speaker 5: like disappear again and it's a lost season with lost castmates,
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  Speaker 5: cast members, and missing storylines that would help us as
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  Speaker 5: fans of The Bachelor make sense of.
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  Speaker 3: Why they did what they did.
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  Speaker 5: Doug here, I don't know if he's even owed an apology, Ashley.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know anything about the guy. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: anything about their relationship.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Heather, come back in for a second because I am
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  Speaker 2: right in the fact that she was cheating on Doug
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  Speaker 2: with two people, right?
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  Speaker 4: It may not have been long, but there was a time.
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  Speaker 6: Um, so she only hooks up with Dakota for like
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  Speaker 6: a couple of times and then she stops and then
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  Speaker 6: she starts seeing Ben. So she's not technically seeing like
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  Speaker 6: all three of them at the same time. But yes,
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  Speaker 6: literally her cast member Michaela is like, so are you
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  Speaker 6: going to tell Doug you cheated on him?
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, no, my lawyer might tell him that
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  Speaker 2: we're broken up.
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  Speaker 6: He makes a face at the word cheating. Like she
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  Speaker 6: doesn't consider it cheating. Why?
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  Speaker 4: Because she thinks it's a fake relationship because it came
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  Speaker 4: from the show.
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  Speaker 6: They literally go, she goes something like, it's not really
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  Speaker 6: cheating or it's not really that or something. And they go, yes,
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  Speaker 6: it is. And then they go, that's like rich. Like
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  Speaker 6: if the roles were reversed, like we wouldn't hear the
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  Speaker 6: end of it. Yeah. And so she, and then she
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  Speaker 6: flips and she gets totally like irate one day. And she,
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  Speaker 6: a couple of times, And she explodes on her cast
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  Speaker 6: members because they start joking about this. And then she
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  Speaker 6: ends up apologizing and stuff. But yeah, no. The question
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  Speaker 6: is whether Doug ended up actually knowing about any of
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  Speaker 6: this in advance or did he actually have to find
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  Speaker 6: out about all of this by watching the show? We
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  Speaker 6: don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Well, the new updates from Taylor Frankie Paul is that
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  Speaker 5: she has committed the celibacy. until she meets the man
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  Speaker 5: that she will spend her life with. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if that's the exact phrasing that she used, but she
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  Speaker 5: is communicating, hey, this behavior is hurting people. Even if
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  Speaker 5: I was upset with the person at the time, it's
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  Speaker 5: still hurting people. It hurt, obviously, Dakota, Ben, Taylor, Frankie, Paul, Doug.
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  Speaker 5: All these people are getting mixed up into this thing.
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  Speaker 5: It just keeps like I feel like as soon as
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  Speaker 5: we kind of like have a grasp of it, Ashley,
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  Speaker 5: and we're starting to understand like, OK, you know, they're
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  Speaker 5: in court. The courts are going to decide. Here's the
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  Speaker 5: situation that happened. I feel like it just opens up
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  Speaker 5: a whole new layer. And I'm like, whoa, what? Like,
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  Speaker 5: how did how did the show ever think they could
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  Speaker 5: air this? Like the Bachelor had to be aware. How
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  Speaker 5: did they ever think this season could make air?
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  Speaker 2: They had to know what she was doing because like
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  Speaker 2: Hulu knew, you know, over with Secret Lives because they
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  Speaker 2: were filming, you know, January, February, and then March was
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  Speaker 2: when it was supposed to start airing.
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  Speaker 5: How did they ever think they could make this happen
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  Speaker 5: and that it would help the franchise?
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  Speaker 3: It would make... There's no path.
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  Speaker 5: Here that I see it helping the franchise other than
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  Speaker 5: one season of viewership, which maybe that's what they were
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  Speaker 5: going for.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been highly viewed and it would
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  Speaker 2: have been so messy because... So it wouldn't have been love-oriented,
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  Speaker 2: but it would have been really messy.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what? We kind of knew that going
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  Speaker 4: into this.
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  Speaker 2: Also worth mentioning that she wasn't really planning on getting
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  Speaker 2: engaged to Doug, but then when he got down on
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  Speaker 2: one knee, she was like, I guess so.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Well, that's the updates.
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  Speaker 5: Former Bachelorette contestant Zach Clark, who's good friends with Caitlin Bristow,
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  Speaker 5: we've seen their support on social media for each other,
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  Speaker 5: caught in flood during half marathons.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in Paramus, New Jersey, a place where
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  Speaker 2: they have wonderful malls. And this flood was like an
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  Speaker 2: actual river started running through.
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  Speaker 3: People were like holding on to trees.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He showed this on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, everyone was okay, but it definitely made big headlines.
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  Speaker 4: He managed to finish third in his age group.
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  Speaker 3: He's a great runner. This was crazy. I had people.
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  Speaker 5: texting me who's never watched the bachelor and never know
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  Speaker 5: anything about the franchise. We're like, Hey, your boy. Cause
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  Speaker 5: I love Zach. I think Zach's one of the best
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  Speaker 5: humans I've met. Um, your boys that like this poster
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  Speaker 5: child for this race.
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  Speaker 3: And I was watching it. I was like, this is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: One it's flash flooding.
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  Speaker 5: So there's debris obviously flowing down this, you know, path
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  Speaker 5: as well. Uh, obviously you have like strong water currents.
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  Speaker 5: And so who knows like what you're running through and
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  Speaker 5: how fast the water is going. If you fall, uh,
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  Speaker 5: It could be really bad, but nobody did get hurt.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody got hurt. Zach Clark did finish third. Good for him.
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  Speaker 5: And now he's everywhere. He was on every news channel.
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  Speaker 5: He was on all social media. The guy just continues
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  Speaker 5: to find a way to make running cool. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: goodness gracious. He's almost got me convinced to do the
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  Speaker 5: New York Marathon with him because I'm like, I want
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  Speaker 5: to be like Zach.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I will one day.
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  Speaker 4: I can't believe that you haven't run a marathon. Seems
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  Speaker 4: like a Ben thing to do.
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  Speaker 3: I have terrible knees.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 5: Comedian Jeff Arcuri says he and Katie Thurston are discussing
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  Speaker 5: surrogacy amid her stage four cancer diagnosis. Ashley, it's been
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  Speaker 5: a bit since we've been given an update on Katie
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  Speaker 5: and kind of where she's at in her breast cancer journey.
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  Speaker 5: And so I think we can kind of do both here, right?
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  Speaker 5: Obviously it's a stage four cancer diagnosis and Jeff is
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: now talking about future family planning.
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  Speaker 2: So he doesn't, say anything super clearly but he does
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  Speaker 2: have this Netflix special it's called Nice to Meet You
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  Speaker 2: and he's talking about he says that talking about her
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: cancer journey on stage is actually therapeutic and he says
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: that she said, do you think that maybe we can
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: look into surrogacy this year? And then he said, you
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: just told me that we're doing too much, but we
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: do a lot of this to ourselves. Yes, our plates
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: are full, but we made a lot of food on
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: that plate and we're both very impulsive and we both
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: have an idea and we'll both be like, yes.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: And then we support each other.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: And then three months later, we complained that it's too much.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I understand this. Not to the degree that they do, but.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: He says, she's my best friend and she reminds me
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: that I'm funny and she'll stop me and she'll say,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: write that down.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: And then she'll walk me through it.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: And there's been many nights on the road where I've
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: called her five minutes before a set in front of
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of people.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: And I said, what's that thing that I said about
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: peppermint candy? She is my muse in so many ways.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And she likes to challenge me in such a great
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: way that I could not be here without her.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: So obviously.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: He pointed out that they are talking about surrogacy, but
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: we don't get like a lot of meat from that statement,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: if you know what I mean.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: Ashley, what do you know about Katie's current situation?
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: I think that, I don't know.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I think that I don't know, but I do know
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: that she just got chin lipo.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the next headline.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: It might be time to bring Katie back on to
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: the show to kind of hear where she's at, what
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: she's going through, just to kind of get an update
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: on her life.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because she had the surgery to get it out.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: That's the questions that we should be asking Katie or
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: at least getting it from her rep so that we
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: can fill you all in because we did promise everybody
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: that we'd follow that journey closely. And we need to
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: do that. Hey, as you mentioned, the next headline is
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Katie Thurston undergoes chin liposuction amid breast cancer journey.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I kind of love this.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: So she said, after so many required medical surgeries, I
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: decided to do one for myself. I'm all about transparency,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: never had Botox or filler. But today I did have
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: chin lipo. And I love this for her. I don't even.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Know if she had to go under for a lot
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: of chin lipo. You don't have to.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And she shows some before and after, and she got
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: like some people messaging her saying like, oh my gosh, like,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: why would you like put thought into your chin when
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: you're going through this? And she's like, um, because I
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: may have stage four cancer, but I'm planning on living
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: a long time and I'm going to do what I
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: want to do. And what's going to make me feel
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: great about myself. Are you going to tell me not
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to shower? Are you going to tell me not to
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: get manicures? Like, this is what I wanted to do
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: for myself. And I think I deserve a little treat.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: And I was like, hell yeah, Katie.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Great for Katie. Katie's been through it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Goodness.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: It's always, I do, I want to follow up with her, Ashley,
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: because there's so much that she's been through, gone through.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: She's done such a great job at keeping everybody informed
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: along the journey. And then in great Katie style, she's
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: still being open and honest with all of us.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, do I want chin lipo?
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: It look good? I haven't seen it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks really good.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Go look.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: What does that do?
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: It's really minimally invasive.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: It's obviously somewhere in between a med spa trip and
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: an actual plastic surgery.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: But I'll show you the before and after.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: What does it do, though?
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: It makes this area look tight.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Like Jared, like, like your jawline, your chin looks like
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: tighter and you don't have like a gobble gobble.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: So I've been doing this thing that Jess has given me.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: It like vibrates my mouth.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I saw that. It looks awesome.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: You really do it every day?
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Every day.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: It's very, it's very easy. I mean, it's like five
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: minutes of my day. I put it in when I
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: go to bed and then, you know, go to sleep,
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: but it's.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: I know I'm going to need her to hook me
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: up with one of those.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, look at that Ash. Like, look at
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: my jaw. Is it for your jaw? Is it for
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: your like cheekbones? I think it just does all of it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I think it just kind of like, Oh, look at me.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: The mob season one, first look photos and premier date.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: So the mob is this new show, Ashley, that, Hulu
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: is putting out there. The reason we even have it
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: on our headlines is because there are some Bachelor Nation
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: people a part of it. Some we know, some we
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: don't know, but I guess we will get to know them.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is going to be Hulu ABC's version
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: of Traitors. It is by the people who created Traitors.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And in every episode, they will tackle mob movie inspired
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: jobs to survive. But every mob family needs a don
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and whoever they choose will have absolute power deciding who
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: makes money, who stays and who ultimately gets whacked. There
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: is going to be Bruno from Dancing with the Stars,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Demi from Secret Lives, Harry Jossie, who is probably, I
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: want to say the biggest reality star on here.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: He's on everything, though.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: He's like literally... Dude, how do you do anything? It's
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: because he doesn't have kids in his life. Chelsea Laskani,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: who I don't know from Selling Sunset. Debbie Mazur, who
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: you know from Entourage and a lot of things, Younger.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: William Belli from RuPaul's Drag Race. And then we have
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Maria and Shane from our Bachelor franchise. And okay, I
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: can keep going, going. But Joe Gorga is also on it,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: which gives me hope that if this is a hit
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: that I could maybe be on it because they're letting
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Bravo talent over there.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: You kind of skipped over the two Bachelor people.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: No, I just say I was going to go back.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: So it's Maria and Shane from Bachelor.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: And Shane is from Taylor's season, which is really interesting
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: that they would put him on another Hulu ABC show
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: as if he was like a celebrity because like obviously
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: we don't know him he's just really a random so
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: they wanted him in my head to get some fame
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: from it like to become a personality so that possibly
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: they could put him on Bachelorette again or be the
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: lead of Bachelor and then Maria who decided to not
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: ever do Paradise but obviously wanted I think to branch
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: away from the franchise she is now On this show.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: And she's kind of mobby, so I understand that choice.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: If it does well, then maybe you and I can
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: both be on it because they chose two Bachelor people here.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I would love that. I would love to do a
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: show with you again, Ashley.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I would like to do a show with you, too.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: But I'm really bad at gameplay, so I'm not sure.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we could be teammates and push each other, right?
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I think it would be fun. We should really start
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: to push for that.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'll call Rob Mills.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I think it'd be a lot of fun in our
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: stages of life. Like last time we were on a
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: show together, we were both single trying to figure the
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: world out. Now we're like pretty settled in.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: We're like pretty boring now. Well, we have a lot
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: less to lose.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: I actually think we could like shock the world by
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: like the stuff we do and say and how far
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: we're willing to go to win because we know we're
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: coming back home to somebody that loves us.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have to be cool.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I have nothing to gain from cool status. I
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: only have something to gain.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Financially, financially. Yeah. We'll be crazy for money. Actually.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I think I prove often with housewives that I will
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: not be crazy.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, we love you.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Hey, um, we haven't talked about this in a while.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: Let's close up with this. Ashley life is going great.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: Your sister is amazing. Um, you should go and listen
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: to the recaps of the ultimate girls trip. Um, the
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: roaring 20th season reunion thing that Lauren and I have
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: been breaking down. She is an incredible co-host who has
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: learned a lot from her sister, you can tell.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Aw, that's so sweet.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's great.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: So go and listen to that if you got time.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: But everything else, we'll be here breaking it down on
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: the Almost Famous podcast. Hey, until next time, I've been Ben.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I've been Ashley. Thanks for joining us, guys. We love you.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: Bye. Bye.
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