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His victims had to play his evil game (MATURE AUDIENCES ONLY) · Crime and Horror

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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into today's story. On September twelfth,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two, two off duty Alaska police officers were
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  Speaker 1: off hunting in a very remote section of Alaska, about
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  Speaker 1: twenty miles away from Anchorage. The only way to get
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  Speaker 1: out to this area was by plane or by boat,
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  Speaker 1: and so generally speaking, the only people that came into
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  Speaker 1: this area were big time hunters. After a long, long day,
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  Speaker 1: the two men realized it was starting to get dark
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  Speaker 1: and they were still deep in the woods, and so
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  Speaker 1: they decided it was time to turn around and start
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  Speaker 1: heading back to camp. The journey through the woods was challenging,
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  Speaker 1: and so the men walked down to the nearby Kinnick
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  Speaker 1: River and walked across and exposed sandbar, and as they walked,
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  Speaker 1: they noticed up ahead there was a boot sticking out
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  Speaker 1: of the sand, and as they got closer, they realized
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't just a boot, there was also a human
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  Speaker 1: leg bone still in the boot.
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  Speaker 2: Being police officers, they knew the importance.
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  Speaker 1: Of not disturbing a potential crime scene, and so instead
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  Speaker 1: they marked on the map where they were. They left
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  Speaker 1: the area, and they reported the body to their department.
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  Speaker 1: The following day, crime scene technicians came out to that
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  Speaker 1: remote area and they very carefully unearthed the remains, which
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  Speaker 1: still had women's clothing on them, and then afterwards they
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  Speaker 1: began searching for evidence in the area and eventually they
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  Speaker 1: discovered a single shell casing that was a two to
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  Speaker 1: twenty three caliber round, which is a common caliber for
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  Speaker 1: hunting rifles. The remains were sent back to the lab
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  Speaker 1: for an autopsy and it was revealed this person was
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  Speaker 1: a female and she had most likely died at least
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  Speaker 1: six months earlier, and she had almost certainly been the
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  Speaker 1: victim of a homicide because she had died from three
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  Speaker 1: gunshot wounds. Also, during the autopsy, it was discovered that
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  Speaker 1: there were no bullet holes on any of her clothing,
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  Speaker 1: and so it appeared that she had been shot without
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  Speaker 1: her clothes on, and then her killer presumably redressed her. Also,
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  Speaker 1: they found a hospital bandage wrapped up in her clothing
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  Speaker 1: that appeared to have been wrapped around her head, leading
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  Speaker 1: some to speculate that she had been blindfolded before she
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  Speaker 1: was shot. A couple of weeks after the autopsy, dental
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  Speaker 1: records came back and they identified the body as belonging
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  Speaker 1: to twenty three year old Sherry Morrow. Sherry was an
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  Speaker 1: exotic dancer from Anchorage who had been reported missing ten
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  Speaker 1: months earlier.
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  Speaker 2: In her missing.
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  Speaker 1: Person's report, it was stated that the last thing she
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  Speaker 1: told her friends was she had been offered three hundred
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  Speaker 1: dollars to have pictures taken of her by a professional photographer,
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  Speaker 1: and she was going to meet this man right before
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  Speaker 1: she disappeared. While police were fairly certain that Sherry's killer
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  Speaker 1: was this so called photographer, they had no evidence that
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  Speaker 1: would allow them to search for this person.
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  Speaker 2: They had nothing.
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  Speaker 1: All they had was this shellcasing that was commonly used
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  Speaker 1: amongst hunters, and there's lots of hunters in Alaska. So
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  Speaker 1: the police reported the finding of Sherry's body to the
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  Speaker 1: media in hopes that when they put that out to
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  Speaker 1: the world that someone from the public would reach out
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  Speaker 1: with more information. During the police's press conference, one of
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  Speaker 1: the reporters asked them, you know, do you think Sherry's
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  Speaker 1: death is connected to the other unsolved deaths in that
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  Speaker 1: part of Alaska. What they were referencing was two years earlier,
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  Speaker 1: two other women's bodies had been discovered in that rough
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  Speaker 1: area where Sherry had been found. One of the women
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  Speaker 1: was so badly decomposed there was no way to identify her. However,
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  Speaker 1: it was revealed she was probably in her late teens
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  Speaker 1: or early twenties. The other woman was able to be identified.
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  Speaker 1: It was twenty four year old Joanne Messina, who was
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  Speaker 1: an exotic dancer from Anchorage. But there was virtually no
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  Speaker 1: evidence at either of the two women's grave sites, and
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  Speaker 1: so their deaths remained a mystery publicly. At this press conference,
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  Speaker 1: the police told reporters that they did not believe Sherry's
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  Speaker 1: death was connected to those two other women, but privately,
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  Speaker 1: some officers had their suspicions. Not only had these three
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  Speaker 1: women met similar fates in a similar area, but over
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  Speaker 1: the past couple of years, there had been a significant
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  Speaker 1: increase in missing people out of Anchorage, Alaska, and most
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  Speaker 1: of these missing people were young women that were either
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  Speaker 1: exotic dancers or prostitutes. This convinced many officers that they
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  Speaker 1: were dealing with a serial killer, but there just wasn't
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  Speaker 1: any evidence to actually prove it, so they couldn't come
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  Speaker 1: out and say it publicly. Over the following year, no
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  Speaker 1: new information came out about Sherry Morrow or the other
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  Speaker 1: two deceased women that have been found in that same area,
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  Speaker 1: and so all three of their cases just continued to languish. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: more and more exotic dancers and prostitutes were going missing
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  Speaker 1: out of Anchorage, and no one knew why. Then on
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  Speaker 1: June thirteenth, nineteen eighty three, the police got a break.
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  Speaker 1: Early that morning, a man driving a truck turned onto
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  Speaker 1: a quiet Anchorage highway and as he was making his
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  Speaker 1: way down the road, he saw up ahead on the
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  Speaker 1: side there was this woman running towards him, screaming with
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  Speaker 1: their hands over her head, and she wasn't wearing pants
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  Speaker 1: or shoes, and so obviously he knew something was wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and so he pulled over, and as this woman is
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  Speaker 1: charging up towards him, he notices she has a handcuff
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  Speaker 1: on one of her wrists, and she appears to be
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  Speaker 1: a lot younger than he initially thought. She's probably in
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  Speaker 1: her late teens, and so.
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  Speaker 2: She comes running up to his car.
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  Speaker 1: He unlocks the passenger side door, she flings herself inside
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  Speaker 1: without even asking for permission. She slams the door behind
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  Speaker 1: her and then ducks down to keep her head out
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  Speaker 1: of the window, like she's trying to hide from something
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  Speaker 1: out there. Now, this man looked out and he didn't
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  Speaker 1: see anyone or anything, but he wasn't going to wait
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  Speaker 1: around for whatever it was she was scared of, and
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  Speaker 1: so he just made a gut decision to take this
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  Speaker 1: girl away from here, and so he peeled off and
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  Speaker 1: drove down the road.
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  Speaker 2: And the girl, who was very shaken up, couldn't even
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  Speaker 2: tell this guy what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: She just asked him to please drop her off at
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  Speaker 1: a nearby motel, and the man didn't ask any questions.
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  Speaker 1: He drove her to the motel and he dropped her off.
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  Speaker 1: The girl ran inside and up to her room, and
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  Speaker 1: when she ran inside, the motel receptionist sees this girl
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  Speaker 1: running in. I mean, she doesn't have her pants on,
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  Speaker 1: she's got a handcuff on. She looks terrified, and so
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  Speaker 1: she called the police. A few minutes later, the police
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  Speaker 1: showed up. They went up to this girl's room. They
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  Speaker 1: knocked in the door. The girl opened it up, and
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  Speaker 1: she was obviously very scared, and she allowed the police
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  Speaker 1: inside and she told them her name was Cindy Paulsen
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  Speaker 1: and she was seventeen years old. The police recognized, this
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  Speaker 1: girl is terrified, she's not a threat, and so they
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  Speaker 1: removed the one handcuff that was still on her, and
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  Speaker 1: then they asked her you know what happened? And the
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  Speaker 1: police officers would say her story was just horrible, But
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  Speaker 1: what stood out to them was not how disturbing the
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  Speaker 1: story was, it was how composed and brave this girl
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  Speaker 1: was as she told it. This is her story. The
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  Speaker 1: night before, Cindy was working the streets of Anchorage. She
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  Speaker 1: was a prostitute, and a car pulled up and inside
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  Speaker 1: was this wiry, bearded guy with glasses who seemed kind
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  Speaker 1: of slight and harmless, and he asked to buy her services,
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  Speaker 1: and because she didn't view him as a threat, she
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  Speaker 1: agreed and hopped in his passenger seat, and as soon
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  Speaker 1: as she sat down, he reached over and put a
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  Speaker 1: handcuff on one wrist and the gun on her and
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  Speaker 1: told her to be quiet, and then he drove her
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  Speaker 1: to this fairly nice neighborhood, pulled into a driveway, he
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  Speaker 1: got her out of the car and led her into
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  Speaker 1: this house and he brought her along downstairs into the basement,
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  Speaker 1: where as soon as she got down there there was
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  Speaker 1: a dim light and she saw there was a chain
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  Speaker 1: swinging from the ceiling, and he struck her up onto
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  Speaker 1: that chain, and for hours he assaulted her, and then
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  Speaker 1: after he grew tired of doing that, he told her
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  Speaker 1: he was going to go take a nap and when
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  Speaker 1: he came back, they were going to leave this house
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  Speaker 1: and go out to his cabin in the woods. At
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  Speaker 1: this point she begged him to let her go, but
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  Speaker 1: he really didn't care. He just told her that if
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  Speaker 1: she made any noise or tried to escape at any point,
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  Speaker 1: he would have to kill her. And then he walked
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  Speaker 1: out of the room and for the next several hours,
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  Speaker 1: Cindy remained chained to the ceiling with half of her
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  Speaker 1: clothes off, wondering what horrible thing was going to happen
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  Speaker 1: to her next. Eventually, her attacker came back in the
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  Speaker 1: room and he untied her from her chain, and he
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  Speaker 1: walked her upstairs to his living room, where he very
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  Speaker 1: proudly showed her a number of hunting trophies he had,
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  Speaker 1: and he began telling her about how much he loved
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  Speaker 1: hunting and where he went hunting. And it was at
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  Speaker 1: this point that Cindy realized this guy has no intention
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  Speaker 1: of keeping her alive. He's shown her his face, his house,
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  Speaker 1: his car, He's told her about places he likes to
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  Speaker 1: go and things he likes to do. He's given her
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  Speaker 1: all this information about himself. She is a huge liability
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  Speaker 1: to him, and so it dawned on her that if
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  Speaker 1: she didn't find.
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  Speaker 2: A way to escape, she was going to die.
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  Speaker 1: After the trophy tour, the man led Cindy back out
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  Speaker 1: to her car. He put her inside, and then he
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  Speaker 1: drove to a nearby small airport where he said his
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  Speaker 1: plane was, and so he pulled over to their hanger.
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  Speaker 1: He got her out of the car and he put
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  Speaker 1: her inside of the plane, and as Cindy is sitting
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  Speaker 1: in the plane, she's watching this guy load gun after
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  Speaker 1: gun and bag after bag of what looks like military
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  Speaker 1: supplies into this plane. And so she knows that this
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  Speaker 1: is the moment I have to escape right now, because
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  Speaker 1: as soon as this plane takes off, I'm done for.
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  Speaker 1: And so at some point, when this guy went over
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  Speaker 1: to his car to get something and his back was
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  Speaker 1: turned to her, she jumped out of the cockpit of
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  Speaker 1: this plane. She fell to the ground, She got up
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  Speaker 1: and just began running out of the hangar. And she
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  Speaker 1: managed to get out of the hangar and began turning
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  Speaker 1: the corner and run towards this forest right as she
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  Speaker 1: hears this guy charging after her, screaming that he's going
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  Speaker 1: to catch her and kill her. And so she just
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  Speaker 1: keeps running for her life all the way into this forest,
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  Speaker 1: all the way to that highway before she finally stopped
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  Speaker 1: and turned around and she saw the man had stopped
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  Speaker 1: following her. This is when she went onto the highway
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  Speaker 1: and she flagged down the guy in the truck who
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  Speaker 1: brought her to the motel. The police were shocked by
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  Speaker 1: her story. It sounded totally unbelievable. But she was so
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  Speaker 1: genuinely scared and so detailed that they believed her, and
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  Speaker 1: so they told her they would have to bring her
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  Speaker 1: to the hospital, and on their way to the hospital,
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  Speaker 1: she demanded they go back to that airport that she
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  Speaker 1: had been held at so she can try to identify
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  Speaker 1: the hanger she had been in and hopefully the plane
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  Speaker 1: would still be in there.
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  Speaker 2: And so the police comply.
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  Speaker 1: They go into the airport and Cindy points out the
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  Speaker 1: hanger she believes she was in, and when they get there,
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  Speaker 1: the plane she had been on was still there, but
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  Speaker 1: the man her attacker was not there, and so the
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  Speaker 1: police got out and they began taking down notes about
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  Speaker 1: the plane, it's different tag numbers, and what it looked like.
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  Speaker 2: And while they're.
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  Speaker 1: Standing there, the security guard fro the airport came over
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  Speaker 1: because he saw the police cars, and he told the
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  Speaker 1: officers that the.
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  Speaker 2: Night before he had seen the owner of the plane.
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  Speaker 1: They're looking at acting very suspiciously with something inside of
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  Speaker 1: his car, and so on a hunch, he had recorded
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  Speaker 1: that man's license plate number and he gave that number
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  Speaker 1: to police, and so the police were able to use
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  Speaker 1: that license plate number and some of the numbers on
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  Speaker 1: the plane to figure out who owned both vehicles, and
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  Speaker 1: it was a local man named Robert Hanson, who owned
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  Speaker 1: a very successful bakery downtown. After dropping Cindy off at
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  Speaker 1: the hospital, the police officers decided to pay a.
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  Speaker 2: Visit to Robert Hanson at his house.
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  Speaker 1: When they got there, Robert was actually pulling into his
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  Speaker 1: driveway right at the same time, and they saw his
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  Speaker 1: car matched the description that Cindy had given of his car,
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  Speaker 1: and then when Robert got out of his car, he
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  Speaker 1: matched the description that Cindy had given of her attacker.
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  Speaker 1: When Robert saw the police parked outside of his house,
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  Speaker 1: he immediately invited them over and said, you know what
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  Speaker 1: can I help you with?
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  Speaker 2: And the police said, we'd like to talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: Can we go inside? Robert invited them inside, and when
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  Speaker 2: the police went.
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  Speaker 1: Into his house, it matched the description that Cindy had
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  Speaker 1: given his house with all the hunting trophies everywhere, and
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  Speaker 1: so they sat down and they asked him what he
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  Speaker 1: was doing the night before, and he said he had
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  Speaker 1: spent the night with some friends and he had their
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  Speaker 1: contact information and if you needed to talk to them,
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  Speaker 1: you could, but they would say he was with them.
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  Speaker 1: When the police asked if they could have a look
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  Speaker 1: around his property. Robert immediately consented and said, you can
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  Speaker 1: look anywhere you want, and so the police searched his
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  Speaker 1: property but found no signs that Cindy had been attacked there,
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  Speaker 1: and so they thanked.
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  Speaker 2: Him for his hospitality and they left.
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  Speaker 1: Once they got back to their station, they checked in
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  Speaker 1: with Robert's two friends he claimed he was with the
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  Speaker 1: night before, and they each independently corroborated Robert's story, saying
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  Speaker 1: that yes, he was with them from this time to
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  Speaker 1: this time. And so it appeared as unlikely as it
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  Speaker 1: seemed that Robert was telling the truth, And so the
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  Speaker 1: police went back to Cindy and they said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: are you sure that everything he told us is exactly
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  Speaker 1: as you remember it. You didn't exaggerate anything, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is the truth. And Cindy said absolutely, And they said, okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: are you prepared to take a lie detector test to
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  Speaker 1: prove that you're telling the truth?
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  Speaker 2: And Cindy said no. Now it's un clear why she
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  Speaker 2: said no.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it was a general distrust of the police, but
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  Speaker 1: either way, when she said no, it immediately cast an
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  Speaker 1: enormous amount of doubt on her story in the eyes
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  Speaker 1: of the police, and when Cindy started to pick up
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  Speaker 1: that the police really didn't believe her anymore, she.
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  Speaker 2: Got spooked and just left town.
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  Speaker 1: And after that her case and Robert Hansen were largely
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  Speaker 1: forgotten about. But three months later, on September Tewod all
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  Speaker 1: of that changed. On that day, a construction crew was
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  Speaker 1: doing some work on a backcountry road not far from
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  Speaker 1: where those three women's bodies had been found, and at
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  Speaker 1: some point one of their machines uncovered some human remains.
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  Speaker 1: The police were called in, who pulled up the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the remains, and then, just like in Sherry Marrows's case,
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  Speaker 1: when they looked for evidence around this new body, they
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  Speaker 1: found a single shell casing from a two to twenty
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  Speaker 1: three caliber round. The remains were brought back for an autopsy,
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  Speaker 1: where it was determined that the body was female and
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  Speaker 1: she had died from several gunshot wounds. Using dental records,
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  Speaker 1: they were able to identify this woman as being seventeen
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  Speaker 1: year old Paula Goulding, who was an exotic dancer who
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  Speaker 1: had gone missing five months prior from Anchorage. The police
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  Speaker 1: sent the two to twenty three shellcasing found in Paula's gravesite,
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  Speaker 1: along with the other two twenty three shellcasing found in
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  Speaker 1: Sherry Morrow's gravesite to a lab to be analyzed, and
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  Speaker 1: it was quickly determined that both of these rounds had
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  Speaker 1: been fired from the same rifle and therefore both women
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  Speaker 1: had most likely been killed by the same person. This
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  Speaker 1: was the moment the police knew they were dealing with
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  Speaker 1: a serial killer, and many police officers wanted it to
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  Speaker 1: be Robert Hanson. He seemed like the guy, but he
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  Speaker 1: had a rock solid alibi and they had no hard
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  Speaker 1: evidence against him, and so without any other suspects, the
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  Speaker 1: police turned to a famous FBI profiler, a guy by
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  Speaker 1: the name of John Douglas, and they asked him to
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  Speaker 1: build a profile of who he think killed Sherry Morrow
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  Speaker 1: and Paula Goulding. And when John's report came back, the
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  Speaker 1: police were shocked. The profile described a man in his
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  Speaker 1: forties who blended in easily with society. He was well
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  Speaker 1: liked and got along with people, and it was just
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  Speaker 1: a normal guy and he was successful, probably because he
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  Speaker 1: owned a successful business. He was an avid outdoorsman and hunter,
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  Speaker 1: and he most likely had a significant speech defect like
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  Speaker 1: a lisp or a stutter. The profile was perfectly describing
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  Speaker 1: Robert Hanson, and because of John Douglas's prolific success in
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  Speaker 1: correctly identifying killers based on his profiles, when a judge
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  Speaker 1: saw this particular profile and saw how neatly it lined
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  Speaker 1: up with Robert Hanson, he gave the FBI a search
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  Speaker 1: warrant for Robert's house, and this time they would find
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  Speaker 1: very damning evidence, like a map of the local area.
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  Speaker 1: It was a hunting map, and on it there were
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven exes marked off, and some of those exes
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  Speaker 1: coincided with the same area where those four women's bodies.
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  Speaker 2: Had been found.
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  Speaker 1: They also found a two to twenty three caliber rifle,
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  Speaker 1: along with a bag of women's jewelry that contained a
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: necklace belonging to Sherry Morrow. As the FBI was carrying
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: evidence out of Robert's house into their truck, a neighbor
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: walked over after seeing all the commotion, and she walked
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  Speaker 1: up to one of the agents, and she was very
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: skittish and anxious, and she said, you know, my husband,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: and he's friends with Robert, and he recently pretended to
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: be an alibi for Robert.
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  Speaker 2: He had no idea how much trouble.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: He was in, and I certainly didn't know, but I
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: want you guys to know that my husband was lying.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: He was not with Robert on the night that he
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: said he was. This was the proverbial nail in the
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: coffin for Robert Hanson, because now without this alibi, he
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: had nothing to hide behind. And so when the police
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: approached Robert with their overwhelming evidence against him, between what
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: they found in his house and this now recanted statement
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: from his former alibi, Robert said, okay, I'm going.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: To confess, but there was a catch.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: He was only willing to confess to murdering the four
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: women whose bodies had already been found by police. Now
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: the police knew Robert had almost definitely killed more people,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: and so at this point they just wanted to know
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: who the other victims were and where they were, and
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: so they offered Robert a deal where he would confess
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  Speaker 1: to those four murders and then give additional information about
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: other victims, where they were located, who they were, what
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: happened to them. In exchange, they would not prosecute him
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: on any other victims he named. So Robert agreed to
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: these terms. He signed the deal, and then he gave
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: a full horrifying confession. He said he would drive around
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  Speaker 1: Anchorage at night and look for young, vulnerable women that
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: were all alone. These were usually prostitutes out on the street,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: or they were exotic dancers.
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  Speaker 2: He would try to befriend inside of clubs.
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  Speaker 1: And when he approached these women, he would tell them
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: he was a professional photographer and he thought they were
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: beautiful and he wanted to take photos of them, and
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: he would pay them for the photo shoot.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: And many of these women.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Were aspiring models, and they were really excited at this idea,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: and so they would agree to go.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: And so Robert would tell them to meet.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Him the next day at a particular location, which was
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: usually a fast food restaurant, and Robert would show up
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: much earlier, and he would hide in his car and
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: he would wait to see when they showed up if
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: they were alone or not.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: And when he saw they were alone and they had
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: no one.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: To help them, he would drive up and he would
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: ask them to get in his car. What these women
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: couldn't see was on the inside of the passenger side
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: door was a handcuff that was already latched on to
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: the door itself and there was an open cuff waiting
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: for them as soon as they got in. They would
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: get in the car, he would reach over them and
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: act like he was helping them put on their seat belt,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and then as they're kind of looking at him wondering
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: what he's doing, he would grab their wrists, throw it
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: in the open handcuff, and then he would draw a
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: pistol and hold it against their head and say be quiet.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: During his confession, Robert bragged to police that he had
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: done this so many times, putting the handcuff on and
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: drawing the pistol that it was like muscle memory for him.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Once he had the women handcuffed inside of his car,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: he would drive them back to his house and he
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: would bring them into his basement and he would chain
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: them up to the ceiling, just like Cindy had described,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and then after assaulting them for hours, he would take
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: them out of his basement, put them in his car,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: drive out to the airport. He would put them in
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: his plane, but unlike Cindy, these women didn't escape, and
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: he would take off and he would fly them out
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: to his cabin, which was not far from where those
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: four bodies had been found. Once he got the women
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: into his cabin, he would undress them and put a
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: blindfold on them, and then with their handcuffs still on,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: he would assist them out the front door and tell
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: them to run, and they would. They would take off
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: as fast as they could into the woods, running into trees,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: falling over, but just running for their lives, believing their
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: ordeal was now over if they just had to get
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: away from this guy. But what they didn't know is
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: their ordeal was just starting. Robert had no intention of
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: allowing them to escape. He knew there was deep water
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: that surrounded his cabin, and so if they actually made
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: it that far to the water's edge, they would drown.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: And so Robert would give these women a significant head
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: start to give them the sense that they actually might escape.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: And then Robert would grab his knife and his hunting
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: rifle and he would head out and begin stalking his prey.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: And for the next several hours.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Or days, he would walk around the woods looking for
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: these women, and he would just stay off watching what
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: they were doing, and at some point he would sneak
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: up on them and he would wound them intentionally, usually
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: with his knife, and then he had a blood trail
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: to follow, and he would follow these dying women who
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: were screaming out for help. And at some point these
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: women would know they were going to die, there was
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: no hope for them, and they would collapse or they
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: would stop, and at that point Robert.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Would walk up to them and he would shoot them.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Afterwards, he would remove their handcuffs, he would redress them,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and then he would.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Bury them in a shallow grave.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Before he was carted off to prison to serve a
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: life sentence without the possibility of parole. He was brought
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: out by authorities to help identify where other grave sites
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: were in that hunting area, but he was only able
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: to find eight additional victims because he would go to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: different grave sites and the remains would not be there anymore,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: most likely because animals had ransacked the area, or he
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: just simply forgot where it was, or he didn't want
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to share any more information with police. Robert never confirmed
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: if all thirty seven of those exes on that map
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: that was found are actual sites of victims that he buried,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: but investigators say that's exactly what they were, and in fact,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: many believe there are other maps with more exes on them.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: But the police could only confirm seventeen victims. If there
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: were more, we probably will never know because in twenty fourteen,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Robert died in prison and he took those secrets to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the grave.
• 19:52
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• 19:53
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• 19:58
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