Latest / Voices for Voices® / The Truth About Counterfeit Pills: Don't Let This Happen To You

Transcript

The Truth About Counterfeit Pills: Don't Let This Happen To You · Voices for Voices®

• 0:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Hi everyone, it's Justin here, Voices for Voices.
• 0:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Thank you once again for tuning in.
• 0:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Whether you're watching and listening here in the United States or across the world, thank you for being with us.
• 0:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Thank you for being part of the Voices for Voices family.
• 0:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If you can reach out, maybe 25 contacts on your phone and share our Voices for Voices podcast with them.
• 0:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That would be amazing.
• 0:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And it is free to do.
• 0:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um just want to highlight iHeart uh iHeart Media app.
• 0:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You can set Voices for Voices as a preset on that app.
• 0:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That app is like all the other apps that you can watch or listen to our show, is free.
• 0:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's f R-E, F-R-E-E free.
• 1:03
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I want you to close your eyes for a moment.
• 1:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Imagine growing up, going through grade school, elementary school, and you get to middle school, and you're an athlete, a successful athlete.
• 1:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So there's a lot of positive attention towards you and I.
• 1:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I'm going through this exercise with you.
• 1:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And on the last play of the season, we get injured.
• 1:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's an injury that takes us by ambulance to the closest hospital.
• 2:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we have an injury, and it requires some form of surgery, and there's a high degree of pain that we feel with this injury.
• 2:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So the surgery is done, everything is okay, ready for rehab, and then get back hopefully on the field.
• 2:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Hopefully, one of the colleges or universities doesn't pull their scholarship because we were injured in the last play of our senior year in high school.
• 3:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we're discharged from the hospital.
• 3:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We go home, and there's an outpouring of support, cards, food, people stopping by giving their best wishes.
• 3:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we kind of feel like we're getting back in the game per se.
• 3:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And before this, we weren't we weren't invited to parties, even though we were very successful.
• 3:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We kept to ourselves.
• 4:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we remember our parents saying nothing good ever happens after midnight.
• 4:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But we think, well, we'll just we'll just go to this one party.
• 4:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So it's no no big deal.
• 4:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: After during rehab, and for a period of time after, we were prescribed some very strong medication to help ease the pain a little bit from the injury in the in the surgery that came up.
• 4:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we start out taking one pill in the morning and one pill before bed per doctor and pharmacist recommendation.
• 5:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we were up until that point, we were never prescribed any pain medication.
• 5:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we were following the instructions, and we thought, okay, this is just part of the process.
• 5:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: This is this will pass, this time will pass, and I'll be as and you'll be as good as new.
• 6:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we get invited to this party.
• 6:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we took uh we didn't realize how how low we were on our pain medication.
• 6:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so time came and went, and there was one dose of the pain medication left.
• 6:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we took that this morning, that morning.
• 6:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So our parents had call in to get a refill of the medication from the pharmacy.
• 7:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But it's not going to be ready until tomorrow.
• 7:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we think, well, what are we gonna do?
• 7:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's been two months since the surgery, the pain's still there, doctor says it's normal, it will start to wane.
• 7:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we go to this party, and we see friends or so-called friends, and uh people are asking how you're doing, how we're doing, and they ask us if we want a drink.
• 7:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So, yeah, I'll I'll have a drink.
• 8:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And what we didn't know was when we were asked if we wanted a drink, wasn't it wasn't a drink of water.
• 8:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It was an alcoholic beverage, and up until that point we hadn't drank any alcohol because we were underage and still are, and then the peer pressure started like, come on, Justin, one's not gonna hurt you.
• 8:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Just take one, even though on the label of our pain medication says do not mix with alcohol.
• 8:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We think, well, I ran out of my pain medication, and it's not gonna be ready till the prescription's not gonna be filled until tomorrow.
• 9:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we think to ourselves, yeah, what what's one one drink gonna do?
• 9:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we have the drink, we're talking, we're hanging out, we're laughing, being goofy.
• 9:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Somebody else gets us another drink of alcohol, and then a friend comes over, said, Sorry, I'm late, everybody.
• 9:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, and everybody gets hugs and says, Thanks for coming, and they start asking us questions about how we're doing, how was the surgery?
• 10:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we we explain all that, and then what we also explain is we're going through rehab, we're still in pain, and our doctor has prescribed us pain medication to take until the pain subsides.
• 10:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And then some individuals ask, Well, what kind is it?
• 10:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: What's the name of it?
• 10:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm not gonna give specific names because I don't want it to be glorified, and so there's new this well, new friend to the party, but you you recognize him from from school, says, Oh, I have some of said pain medication, and we asked her, Well, like, did you get prescribed that from a doctor?
• 11:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, what what what's going on?
• 11:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And they say, Oh no, no, no.
• 11:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I uh you said you were out, right, Justin?
• 11:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You said that you said that your prescription is not going to be filled until tomorrow, so you missed a day.
• 11:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You missed an evening.
• 11:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So you had the dose in the morning, but you didn't have the dose in the afternoon or the before nighttime before bed, around about there.
• 12:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And they say, Oh yeah, right here, and then they pull open out of their pocket a ziploc bag or some other kind of clear plastic bag and say, look, right here, I got this that you said you're out, so do you want to like you can have one, but I I'm I'm gonna have to charge a dollar for it.
• 12:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we weren't up until a point we had heard about drug dealers and pill peddlers and that, but because we had had a couple of drinks of alcohol and our system never had that, we were a little bit fuzzy in our in our brain and our mind.
• 13:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we said, oh sure.
• 13:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I happen to have a five-dollar bill in my pocket to give said friend five dollars, gives you the change, and gives you the pill, and you look at it, and it the pill looks exactly like the pill, the medication that you we take in the morning and then in the evening for our pain.
• 13:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so, and we look at it, and we say, okay, it's the same color, has the same logo or what whatever's on whatever is pressed on to those those specific pain pills, it looks like looks like it.
• 14:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Looks legit.
• 14:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we take it with a glass of water and about ten ten minutes or so we we started to be overcome by a different feeling than when we took our prescribed medication.
• 15:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We feel this euphoria high feeling and we start thinking that I wonder why I'm feeling like this.
• 15:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Yeah, my my medication doesn't make me feel this way and that's when the lights go out.
• 15:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And at some point later, we wake up in the hospital and we're thinking why am I at the hospital?
• 15:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: What happened?
• 16:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And the medical staff says my name as an example.
• 16:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Justin, do you know what do you know what you took last night?
• 16:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And there's still a little fuzzy in the mind and the brain.
• 16:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we didn't want to because we weren't of age to drink alcohol, we were afraid that our parents were gonna get really upset with us.
• 16:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we're we tried to brush over that, but there were different tests that were run, and it showed that there was alcohol in our system, so we obviously had to tell them, not knowing that they already knew because they were briefed by the medical staff before they came in to visit us, so they already knew the alcohol part, so they were they were upset, and then the doctor says, but did did you take anything else?
• 17:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like was it just the two drinks?
• 17:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we start thinking like things are slowly coming back to us, and we go, Oh yeah, I was out of my pain medication from the surgery and the pain after the surgery as I'm going through rehab.
• 18:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I took the dose, yeah.
• 18:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I take the dose one in the morning and one before bed, and I took the one before or the one in the morning, and we just for lack of better terms, we forgot we were getting very low, and and so when we when our parents called the pharmacy for refill after the doctor prescribed it and and all that, jumped through all those hoops, and the pharmacy said, Well, we don't have it in stock right now, you can pick it up tomorrow morning after 9 a.m.
• 19:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And and so we're recounting this story to the doctor and with our parents there with us, who were ultra supportive of us, and we think yeah, I took I took uh whatever whatever brand name or generic pain medication that looked like it was exactly like the pain medication that I'm taking.
• 19:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I took it, and then that's when I my I blacked out, and then I just wake up and I'm here in the hospital, and the doctor says, Well, Justin, what you took wasn't just the pain medication, it was mixed with fentanyl, and the amount that was in that pill has killed people your your size and weight and everything.
• 20:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Luckily the at the party, somebody had Narcan and administered it and so it started to reverse the overdose.
• 21:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So, well what's narcant?
• 21:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so the doctor explained that in basic terms it helps reverse the overdose of taking fentanyl, carfentanol, xylazine, and so many other lab created drugs.
• 21:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so your your friend that you you got it from, or for like where did you get it?
• 21:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I was one of the friends from school.
• 21:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Do you have their name?
• 21:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Yeah, this is the name.
• 22:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And the medical staff motion in law enforcement.
• 22:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And law enforcement goes and arrests that kid, that child in high school who's sell selling pain medication that when they don't they have they don't prescribe it themselves, and it's mixed with one of these heavy duty drugs with the fentanyl, carfentanol, xylosine, and the list, the list goes on.
• 22:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we think, well, I had I had no idea.
• 22:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: The doctors and the police they say that's what that's what we're trying to do with this awareness.
• 23:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, Justin, you almost died last night.
• 23:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If Narcan was not administered to you prior to the ambulance coming, you you may not be here in the hospital.
• 23:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You might be in the morgue.
• 23:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so things are just slowly starting to click in our heads.
• 23:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We know that that's why it's a big battle that we're fighting.
• 23:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: People are selling things, and they don't know the whole supply chain of what exact drugs are mixed together.
• 24:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so you wouldn't have known.
• 24:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And even the kid from your school who was dealing the drugs because they're illegal to have without a prescription.
• 24:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: He probably didn't know either.
• 24:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: He just probably looked at the dollar signs of I can make X amount of money if I sell these.
• 24:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And then it just happened to be one of those perfect storms where you are out of your medication, you weren't going to get a refill till tomorrow.
• 24:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You're in a setting with you know supposed friends.
• 25:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And really the the only friend or person that turned out to be a friend was the one that administered the Narcan to you.
• 25:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we finish up our our stay at the hospital.
• 25:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We start going to therapy.
• 25:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Just uh as an outlet, just to talk, just to talk.
• 25:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Nothing more, nothing less.
• 25:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Share what you want to share, don't share what you don't want to share.
• 26:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so let's open up our eyes.
• 26:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So the story I just described happens all too often.
• 26:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, there's a lot of us that we think somebody that overdoses is on drugs that well, they should know better.
• 26:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They shouldn't take that.
• 26:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They shouldn't.
• 26:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They shouldn't do this, they shouldn't do that.
• 26:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, it's real easy for us to sit in the chair or the couch or wherever and quarterback this thing and say, Well, I wouldn't have done this.
• 26:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I wouldn't have done that.
• 27:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But do we really know that?
• 27:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so people who overdose are people, they're humans too.
• 27:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we need to treat them as such, as humans.
• 27:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Some do end up overdosing and passing away because they didn't know what they were taking.
• 27:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They thought they knew, but they didn't know what they were taking.
• 27:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And this can happen in any demographic, any zip code, anywhere, anywhere in the world, it can happen.
• 27:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like I said, that perfect storm.
• 27:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're out of our pain medication, what looks to be the pain medication somebody at a party has, and they say, Oh, yeah, I here's one, and here's how much it costs, and even if they weren't selling, like transferring money for a drug that's illegal to sell, and it's illegal to have, unless it's prescribed by a doctor, still can get in a lot of trouble.
• 28:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like I said, that kid may not have had no clue.
• 28:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: He probably got a certain amount of these pills, said, Oh, it's this brand, and this is the name.
• 28:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Because they make it look almost exactly like the real thing to get from a pharmacy.
• 29:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we don't want to have anybody else overdose.
• 29:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We don't want anybody to do those illegal type of things of selling bless you, Lucy.
• 29:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Lucy sneezed.
• 29:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: The dog, Lucy.
• 29:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh and so that's why it's important.
• 29:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's why I spent you know, 30 minutes or so talking through this because these are real life scenarios.
• 29:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's not just the people that you know we see camped out on the corner or intense city or wherever going, oh, they need to just go get a job and they just need to do this or do that.
• 30:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Again, it's real easy for us to say that as somebody who has been given opportunities to not have to be in that lifestyle.
• 30:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've talked to people who have overdosed.
• 30:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've talked to people who have been in and out of you know, incarcerated.
• 30:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And some of them say the very same thing, and these are full-grown adults.
• 30:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I thought I was taking this, but it ended up being something else.
• 30:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And obviously, the way medical staff in that example I recounted was able to tell through you know, toxicology, say this is in your system, and so the alcohol would have just been a catalyst of, like you said, you don't mix alcohol with many, if not all, medications, it can't help.
• 31:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So it either stays the same or makes things not so good.
• 31:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So it doesn't matter who we are, where we're at, where we live, how many accolades we have, how much money we have, how many cars or boats or homes or it doesn't matter.
• 32:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: The story I recounted is that height refers to children growing up and being in high school, and and I mentioned all throughout up until that point that the person in the story hadn't drank any alcohol up until that point.
• 32:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And then we think about the surgery.
• 32:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, the surgery was needed, but then what was prescribed to that kid who just had surgery?
• 33:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: These pain medications are powerful, they're strong.
• 33:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we have to start to ask ourselves are there other alternatives that are more safe?
• 33:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They handle pain.
• 33:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So a tangent from the story, because in in this in the story recounted the person survived, but I mentioned that some people don't survive, but then there's also people, and that was their first time.
• 34:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So never drink any alcohol.
• 34:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I was on this regimen taking my medication, I'm out.
• 34:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It was a perfect storm.
• 34:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's the first time that individual in the story that I recounted took a pill that looked like the one that they needed, but wasn't going to be ready for the prescription till tomorrow.
• 34:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So if the person in the story didn't have the surgery, didn't have the injury, was not prescribed the medication, then that wouldn't occur.
• 34:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But sometimes life throws us curveballs and that kid wasn't planning on getting injured at the ball game.
• 35:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It just happened.
• 35:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Just like the kid in the story didn't have any more of his prescription medication.
• 35:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So it just seemed like, oh, okay, yeah, I'll just plug this.
• 35:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's not an unplug, but uh it's an analogy.
• 35:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like I'll plug this tablet, capsule, whatever.
• 35:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'll plug this in play tonight.
• 35:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They'll get me through the night, and then I'll get the prescription tomorrow.
• 35:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Instead, it's tomorrow, or it's tonight, and then tomorrow we're in hospital.
• 36:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: With medical staff saying we were very lucky to survive because there's a lot of people, the amount that we had that was in that pill was plenty enough to kill a couple of people.
• 36:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So a tangent from that is instead of what the kid does after that by going to therapy and just learning and getting educated, a tangent could be.
• 37:03
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Oh my gosh, I'm done with my medication.
• 37:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm not gonna be able to get any more refills, but I like the feeling because the pain's no longer there, and so I'm feeling this euphoric, high, however, we want to call it.
• 37:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so now it turns into I need this, I need to feel this way, I need, and and so an individual could go down the road of I need this, I need to get it.
• 37:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Who has it?
• 37:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Where can I get it at?
• 37:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: How much is it?
• 37:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You might say, well, you know, they deserve what they get because they they should have known better.
• 38:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, we all should have known better on a lot of things, but we still do dumb things, we do things and go, why did it why did you know so and so do whatever?
• 38:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Or why didn't I do that?
• 38:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Why did I do this instead of thinking about it first?
• 38:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so it's important to realize these are people too.
• 38:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And if unfortunately an individual overdoses is not administered, Narcan, is just with a bunch of people who are like themselves, like like that person, just looking for that next fix.
• 39:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And then when that wears off, they're looking for the next fix.
• 39:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so sometimes you have laws that are broken, people stealing, they're doing things they never normally would have done if they weren't introduced to these specific drugs, the family life could not have been good too.
• 39:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so there wasn't support for those individuals, and if they don't have anywhere to live, then they don't have anywhere to live.
• 39:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They're homeless, they may think I don't have a reason to live, so I'm just gonna take this or smoke this, or what the whatever, and then they may pass away.
• 40:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe after the first time, maybe after the hundredth time, maybe after the five hundredth time, and so I'm taking this whole show the show that these are real people too.
• 40:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Somebody could take something once, think it's something.
• 40:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Oh, it's the same name, and what and they still can overdose and die.
• 41:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And then there could be others who are like, oh, my friend told me about this, so I'm gonna try it, and then they might pass away.
• 41:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I think it just comes down to raising judgment that who are we to judge others because we're not perfect, we're not God, and so we want to remember everybody that we have lost who has passed away from any kind of overdose situation.
• 42:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Folks, that could have been me when I was 18, 17, 18, when I took 32 cold and cough pills over the counter.
• 42:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And if I wasn't taken to the hospital and my stomach pumped, turkle, the whole deal, I would have died.
• 42:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I wouldn't be here today.
• 42:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So it wasn't a prescription type of deal, like I mentioned.
• 42:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But if somebody's not of age, or if they are of age of being able to get something over the counter without a prescription, and it can give that euphoric, high floating feeling.
• 43:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's the exact reason why I did it, and I was competitive.
• 43:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: My friends took so many, and I'm like, I'm gonna take more than you.
• 43:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Wasn't wasn't good.
• 43:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I was in the hospital for at least a couple days.
• 43:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I I don't remember exactly how many days.
• 43:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So this is a real thing, folks.
• 43:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're real people.
• 43:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm a real person.
• 43:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You're a real person.
• 43:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we're just hoping and praying that people will make as good a d a decision as possible when given the opportunity.
• 44:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like, look, everybody's doing it.
• 44:03
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Oh, it's only a dollar.
• 44:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Just oh, it looks like what I'm taking, and I'm I can't get my prescription till tomorrow.
• 44:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: This is coming from somebody, me, who has gone and has had this the pharmacy, and I've given them enough days.
• 44:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Now that was just our ice machine.
• 44:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We got all kind of sounds here.
• 44:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Sound effects.
• 44:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But there's been times where I've been out a day or two because the pharmacy has to order, or they just don't have enough.
• 44:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like a 90-day supply versus a 30-day supply like that.
• 45:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Which that's kind of governed by, you know, the different laws, and then the pharmacists and then the doctors as well that are prescribing.
• 45:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I could very easily be in a situation where I've been taking a certain medication for a certain amount of time and go, oh my gosh, then I can have it for three days.
• 45:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: What do I do?
• 45:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So what do I do?
• 45:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I call my therapy therapist, but mostly in this particular instance, I'd call or text my psychiatrist, and then they would guide me, like they have before, on what what I should do in the meantime.
• 46:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Because like you're taking something for a period of time, and then it stops, the body's like, wait a minute, you were taking this for this amount of time, and now you're not?
• 46:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like, wait, what's going on?
• 46:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And sort of body mostly for me, you know, the anxiety and different things that that come up.
• 46:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They get amplified, I guess.
• 46:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Not just they come up, they get amplified.
• 46:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Cause then I'm like, oh my gosh, like what why don't they have it?
• 47:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so this stuff's real, folks.
• 47:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: This is this is mental health, this is life, and unfortunately, sometimes it leads to death.
• 47:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So let's when I say celebrate the voices of the world, let's celebrate and let's also be a voice for not just us, but maybe we know somebody's going through some hard times.
• 47:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe they just lost a job and they have no family, or no family clothes, and so they don't they don't have any money to pay for their house or condo or whatever, and their car gets repossessed, the house gets evicted, and this person who looked and seemed like they had it all is now living on the streets going oh I don't have anything else to do, I don't know where else to go.
• 48:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Nobody's supporting me, nobody's helping me.
• 48:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So that's what I mean.
• 48:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It doesn't matter what what zip code age-wise, I mean, unfortunately, it gets younger and younger, but basically any age, you know, taking babies and infants and toddlers and but if there's people that they around it comes down to parenting.
• 48:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If we are let letting our if we're empowering our children to just say no, do the code word thing, look back a couple episodes, we talk about code word where get the ch child out of a situation they don't feel comfortable in a password, whatever you'd like to call it.
• 49:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But even with all that information, being around a group of people that they've been around a lot, maybe it's a ball team, and like so you trust each other on the field, and then you get to a party and stuff's going on, it's like I know I know I shouldn't be doing this, I know I shouldn't even be here.
• 50:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm gonna spell smell like marijuana, or I'm gonna smell like a drug, like or I might even get enticed to doing it.
• 50:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like, oh just one time, it's not gonna bother it's not gonna hurt hurt anything.
• 50:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so for all the doctors out there, please uphold your ethics and integrity and think about these things, especially for children.
• 50:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Kids go through surgeries and different events, experiences so we don't end up putting somebody else at risk of being on the street of taking what they think is their prescription and it's being sold as their prescription, not knowing that it's it's been mixed with some of the most horrific substances known to man.
• 51:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Thank you for joining us.
• 51:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If you can give us a big thumbs up, like, follow, subscribe, share, reshare, repost, pull up that phone if you don't have it out.
• 51:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Share the voices for voices podcast with me 25, 50, 100, 200 contacts.
• 52:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We greatly appreciate that, and we greatly appreciate you.
• 52:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So until next time, let's celebrate all the voices in the world and let's be a voice for not only ourselves, but maybe somebody else in need.
• 52:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We'll see you on the next episode.
• 52:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Have a great day.
• 52:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Bye bye for now.