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10-21 H3: Mirror Mirror, Rick Neuheisel Audio & 10 More Days · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be fair. See what I'm saying? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see it? I did see it. Did you
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  Speaker 1: see the sincerity in there?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. After being reckless, you're being fair.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be just. I'm going to be fair
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  Speaker 1: to all here in this segment. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: not just fair, the fairest of them all. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: And so here is today's Mirror Mirror question. Feel free
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  Speaker 1: to use the talkback if you want to assure your thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: Hit the airwaves, 93.3kjr.com. For our talkback feature, just leave
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  Speaker 1: us a little 30-second message. Ken Walker's gone. He's not
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  Speaker 1: coming back. I'm going to pull a Rick Pitino. Ken
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  Speaker 1: Walker's not walking through that door. Larry Bird's not walking
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  Speaker 1: through that door. Kevin McHale's not walking through that door.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. So we have to fix our running game
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  Speaker 1: because it's going to help Sam Darnold a lot, which
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  Speaker 1: is going to help the defense a lot. So the
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  Speaker 1: running game needs to get fixed. How do we do it?
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  Speaker 1: How do we move forward? We can't just... wish Ken
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  Speaker 1: Walker back into our starting lineup, what would you do
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  Speaker 1: now going forward? And if your answer is be patient,
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  Speaker 1: everybody needs to calm down. Hey, that's a perfect, good
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  Speaker 1: feedback for us here, uh, on mirror mirror. So four, nine, four, five,
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  Speaker 1: one is the text line. Talk back feature at 93,
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  Speaker 1: three KJR.com. We also have some YouTube, uh, viewers that
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  Speaker 1: could weigh in on this as well. Let's start with
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  Speaker 1: our techs today. We never start with the techs. What
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  Speaker 1: do we got on the techs line? All right, from
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  Speaker 1: the 206. Make a lower capital trade for Tony Pollard
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  Speaker 1: rather than giving up the farm for Barkley or Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: Figure out and then figure out how to get Denison
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  Speaker 1: back from the Raiders to improve the O-line. I've seen
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  Speaker 1: this a lot. I'm seeing this quite a bit. I
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  Speaker 1: think Tony Pollard is one of those... Where you're not
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  Speaker 1: giving up on what you have. Yes. He is just
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  Speaker 1: adding to your depth. You know, he is Jadarian Price
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  Speaker 1: Injury Insurance. He is Zach Charbonnet, you know, just in
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  Speaker 1: case he doesn't come back 100% insurance. So from that standpoint, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're right. That probably, I can't imagine you're going to
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  Speaker 1: have to give up more than a 6th. Maybe a
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  Speaker 1: fifth-round draft pick for Tony Pollard, who, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans are like, he's not available. What are
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  Speaker 1: you effing talking about? How is he not available?
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  Speaker 3: Of course he's available.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be the Dolphins, all right? I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that's just negotiating. At least they were doing it with
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  Speaker 1: a really good player. A really good player. Tony Pollard's good.
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  Speaker 1: I like Tony Pollard. And I think he would make
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  Speaker 1: the running back room... The only thing that I would
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  Speaker 1: say as Mirror Mirror is I don't think you have
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  Speaker 1: to give up the farm for Barkley or Jonathan Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: We did a segment earlier in the show, and this
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  Speaker 1: isn't my information. This is people that write about this
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  Speaker 1: for a living. NFLTradeRumors.com said because of Saquon Barkley's, the
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  Speaker 1: way that his salary was constructed, that number one, he
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  Speaker 1: was going to cost financially very little. for the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: And even with that, you probably wouldn't have to give
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  Speaker 1: up more than a second-round pick, maybe two-thirds. And as
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  Speaker 1: for Jonathan Taylor, there's someone that has reported, what about
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  Speaker 1: just Jadarian Price for Jonathan Taylor? Now, that's a significant piece.
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  Speaker 1: That's your first-round pick. And you have to pay him
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  Speaker 1: $ 22 million a year. But I don't view either of
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  Speaker 1: those situations as having given up the farm in order
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  Speaker 1: to add an elite veteran– well, maybe not elite– a
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  Speaker 1: veteran-proven running back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think your assessment of this earlier today
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  Speaker 4: was completely right. You would only really do the one-for-one
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  Speaker 4: trade with Price– If you kind of felt like, man,
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  Speaker 4: he's not what we thought we were going to get there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And because if you do, if you think he's still
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  Speaker 4: going to be a good featured back in this league,
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  Speaker 4: a top half featured back in this league, that wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: be a smart trade to make because he's cheap and
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  Speaker 4: you have him for four more years at least.
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  Speaker 1: Which was the design the entire time. That's why you
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  Speaker 1: let go of Ken Walker.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't want to invest financially in the running back
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  Speaker 1: position to that degree, which you would have to do
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  Speaker 1: with Taylor. Big time. But you don't have to do,
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  Speaker 1: as it turns out, with Barkley.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right. Speaking of that, 206, I would do the
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  Speaker 4: trade for Taylor. He has proven that he can be
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  Speaker 4: the true bell cow recently, and the Seahawks need that,
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  Speaker 4: whereas Saquon may be over the hill.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Barkley is over the hill. Mirror Mirror
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  Speaker 1: has seen him pretty closely because I made the mistake
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  Speaker 1: of taking him in my fantasy draft. I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: Mirror Mirror played fantasy.
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  Speaker 2: Weird.
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  Speaker 1: But fairly and justly. Exactly. I'm always fair and just
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  Speaker 1: with my, you know, I run a tight ship.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 1: But Saquon Barkley is averaging over five yards a carry.
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  Speaker 1: He just hasn't been able to stay on the field.
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  Speaker 1: He had the stinger, which he left after one play.
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  Speaker 1: And then he had the hamstring, which he left the
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  Speaker 1: game after one play. which is always fun. There might
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  Speaker 1: be some salt around the mirror right now. Just a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Oh, without question. A lot of salt. It's
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  Speaker 1: crusty with salt. It's like a margarita. But so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he's washed. He is older.
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  Speaker 1: I will acknowledge, Mirror Mirror will acknowledge this, though. Jonathan
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  Speaker 1: Taylor is healthy and actively productive. Right. And so, Is
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  Speaker 1: there less concern with what you get from Jonathan Taylor?
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  Speaker 1: I would say yes. Barkley just hasn't played enough this
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  Speaker 1: year to determine whether or not.
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  Speaker 3: He's washed or not.
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  Speaker 4: It's the same thing with Price. He hasn't played enough
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  Speaker 4: to determine if he's good enough to be that guy
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  Speaker 4: in the future.
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  Speaker 1: But what we've seen from Barkley, and the very limited
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  Speaker 1: time he's played, is that he still is averaging over
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  Speaker 1: five yards per carry for the Eagles. They haven't used
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  Speaker 1: him as a receiver, and he's hardly been on the field.
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  Speaker 1: He looks great. He looks phenomenal, but maybe he's too
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  Speaker 1: muscled up. I mean, he does jump over the goalposts
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  Speaker 1: in one single bound. I've seen that in the commercials. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he does. But yeah, I think Taylor comes with fewer concerns,
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  Speaker 1: but as I mentioned at 6.30 this morning, you've got
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  Speaker 1: to spend the money on Taylor. There's no getting around
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  Speaker 1: that where apparently you don't have to spend actual cap
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  Speaker 1: space on Saquon Barkley. You just have to give up
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  Speaker 1: the draft capital, which for a 30 year old running
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  Speaker 1: back probably isn't going to be more than a second rounder.
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  Speaker 1: They were even suggesting in this article, two thirds could
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  Speaker 1: land you Saquon Barkley. Man, if I only have to
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  Speaker 1: pay him like a million dollars because the Eagles are
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  Speaker 1: going to eat all the money. And I only have
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  Speaker 1: to give up two third-round picks in the future when
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  Speaker 1: I keep hearing how many draft picks that they have.
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  Speaker 3: We have 12.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think maybe, yeah, I think Mirror Mirror
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  Speaker 1: is going to make that move.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If that's true. I can't figure out NFL math. No
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  Speaker 1: one can. Cap gymnastics are crazy. John Nash couldn't figure
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  Speaker 1: out NFL math, and they made a movie about his
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  Speaker 1: beautiful mind. But that's what the article in NFL Trade
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  Speaker 1: Rumors suggests, is that the contract is set up so
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  Speaker 1: that you would really only have to pay him $ 1. 3
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  Speaker 1: million guaranteed base salary for 2026. and then $ 2. 5 million
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  Speaker 1: of guarantees in 2027, and the Eagles are picking up
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  Speaker 1: all the rest and still would only have to give
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  Speaker 1: up maybe a second-round pick. Ah, that sounds better to
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  Speaker 1: me than Jonathan Taylor, even though Mirror Mirror acknowledges that
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  Speaker 1: Taylor being added to your backfield immediately comes with fewer concerns.
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  Speaker 4: So right now... Right now, for this year, who do
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  Speaker 4: you think is a better running back between Saquon Barkley
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  Speaker 4: and Jonathan Taylor?
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  Speaker 1: Like I just said, it's got to be Taylor. He
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  Speaker 1: comes with fewer concerns. That doesn't mean he's better, though.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he is. I'll say this. I
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  Speaker 1: really wanted Saquon Barkley because I thought he was going
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  Speaker 1: to have a bounce-back season. So from a fantasy standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you make fantasy picks based off what you believe.
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  Speaker 1: You don't— make the pick, and then suddenly start believing
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  Speaker 1: in Saquon Barkley. I believed in him going into the draft.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was going to have a great year.
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  Speaker 1: I certainly didn't expect him to spend the entire season injured.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to Talkback. What do we got?
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  Speaker 3: Go for Jonathan Taylor. Okay. Super Bowl or bust.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Go Hawks.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Love it.
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  Speaker 1: That still has to be the mentality.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean... No matter what you do. Three and three start.
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  Speaker 1: Even if you lose Sunday, three and four... it's still
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  Speaker 1: about winning the super bowl. Um, and the, what I
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  Speaker 1: think is screwing up the entire system right now, including
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is he just can't throw the ball 50
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  Speaker 1: times per game. You've got to figure out a running game, uh,
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  Speaker 1: in order to keep things on. I mean, a year ago,
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  Speaker 1: We didn't have a running game that was excellent. No,
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  Speaker 1: it was like 20th in the league at this point
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  Speaker 1: in the year last year. I mean, how many Mondays
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  Speaker 1: did we spend? Are we running the ball too much?
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  Speaker 1: Sam looks like he's really good. But the idea, the
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  Speaker 1: plan around it was that we're going to keep forcing
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  Speaker 1: that to help Sam be more effective downfield in the
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  Speaker 1: passing game. Well, right now, neither is effective. And maybe
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  Speaker 1: Sam's struggling in part because of that yeah um but
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  Speaker 1: you know that's the other argument here is maybe you
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  Speaker 1: do trust in john and mike a little bit maybe
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  Speaker 1: they haven't been able to even see their plan come
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  Speaker 1: together because of the price injury i mean certainly we're
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  Speaker 1: not going to close the gap between now and the
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  Speaker 1: end of the season with what we're seeing from Ken Walker.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a chance that Ken Walker proves that he's
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  Speaker 1: not durable, which was a concern here. That's why he
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  Speaker 1: was held to so few carries. Why he shared the
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  Speaker 1: load with Zach Charbonnet. So there's a world out there
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  Speaker 1: that The increased workload, he's on pace for 360 carries
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  Speaker 1: this year. That doesn't even count the number of catches
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  Speaker 1: that he gets. We'll catch up to him eventually, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe he won't be. Maybe Emmitt Johnson's carrying the ball
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  Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chiefs in the second half. And
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  Speaker 1: there's certainly not just a chance. The running back room's
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  Speaker 1: going to get better. Charbonnet's going to help just by
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  Speaker 1: his presence this week, even if he only gets five carries.
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  Speaker 1: And then we are three weeks away from potentially Price
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  Speaker 1: and Charbonnet, the original design, being out there. Will it
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  Speaker 1: be as good as what we're seeing out of Ken
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  Speaker 1: Walker in Kansas City? No, no chance. No chance in
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  Speaker 1: hell is it going to be that good. But could
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  Speaker 1: it be as good as what Walker and Charbonnet were
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  Speaker 1: a year ago for this football team? Quite possibly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's very doable. That's not that high of
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  Speaker 1: a bar, to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Could Jadarian Price do what Ken Walker did in the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs last year? I doubt it. I mean, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen enough of him to say, no, he can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: But right now, I have serious doubts about that. I
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  Speaker 1: have serious doubts about Jadarian Price and whether or not
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  Speaker 1: he was worth the first round pick that they spent
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  Speaker 1: on him. But we certainly haven't seen enough of him
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  Speaker 1: to make that judgment. All I know is three, four
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  Speaker 1: weeks from now, even if you do nothing, you're going
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  Speaker 1: to feel better about your running back room. It's just
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  Speaker 1: we weren't expecting to be down both guys for most
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  Speaker 1: of the season to this point.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: What about trading for Amari and Hampton? The Chargers are
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  Speaker 4: done and don't use him anyway. Another younger guy. So
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  Speaker 4: you wouldn't necessarily have to worry about the durability concerns.
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  Speaker 1: He is very talented. I don't know if he's available.
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  Speaker 1: They would have to also be at that point where
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  Speaker 1: they're like, he's not what we thought he was. So
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  Speaker 1: if they did it, I would think, boy, that's an
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  Speaker 1: improvement as a talented guy. But I think he suffers
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  Speaker 1: from some of the things Walker suffered from. I watch
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  Speaker 1: him play sometimes like, is that the hole you chose? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think the play was designed for that.
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  Speaker 1: You look impressive, but I'm not sure that you really
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  Speaker 1: know how to play the running back position. So there
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  Speaker 1: was a little bit of that when I watch Omari
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  Speaker 1: and Hampton. Certainly very talented. We always throw out the
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  Speaker 1: big name, but the truth of the matter is, I
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  Speaker 1: think with the Chargers, if you were trying to cherry-pick
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers... You probably need to look more in the
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  Speaker 1: Kamani Vidal range than the Omari and Hampton. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure the Chargers, if they do decide to sell, and
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  Speaker 1: I think they will decide to sell, are selling away
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  Speaker 1: guys they took in the first round a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably going to be other pieces, pieces they don't
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  Speaker 1: see being part of their future. I would imagine they
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  Speaker 1: still think Hampton is the future, but I did see
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  Speaker 1: a suggestion made the other day that Go after the Raiders'
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  Speaker 1: Ashton Gentry? Now, that would be shocking if he was available.
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  Speaker 1: Just purely shocking if he was available. But, hey, why not?
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  Speaker 1: Let's kick the tires on a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the fun scenario, says the 206, is trading for Saquon.
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  Speaker 4: I think what actually happens is we sign Najee Harris
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  Speaker 4: for depth and then make a deadline trade for a
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  Speaker 4: corner or speed rush edge.
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  Speaker 1: This feels more like John's M.O., I do believe, Mirror
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  Speaker 1: Mirror does believe, that John has a hard time copying
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  Speaker 1: to a mistake. He still, to this day, thinks that
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  Speaker 1: Jamal Adams' trade was a good trade. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: even think that was his trade. I think he's still
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: covering for Pete on that. I agree. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's one for saying six games into a season
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  Speaker 1: where you're still 3-3. It's not like you're the Chargers here,
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  Speaker 1: sitting here at 0-6 and wondering, what happened? You're still
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  Speaker 1: three and three at this point, and all of your
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  Speaker 1: goals are still ahead of you. I just don't think
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  Speaker 1: John abandons what the plan was this year. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Mike abandons what the plan was. Let's stick with
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  Speaker 1: the plan. Do I think that they will add to
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  Speaker 1: the room? I think there's a very good chance they
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  Speaker 1: will add to the room, which gets us all the
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  Speaker 1: way back to the Tony Pollard suggestion. uh from earlier
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  Speaker 1: but no uh i don't i don't think that they
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  Speaker 1: uh what was the other part of that text or
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  Speaker 1: something else i was gonna hit on.
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  Speaker 4: It's about what he'll do the corner get a corner
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  Speaker 4: or speed rush edge uh no not what.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking harris naji harris that was it yep
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  Speaker 1: no effing chance yeah like if we have a running
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  Speaker 1: back room that can't hit the edge the solution is
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  Speaker 1: not let's add the slowest running back in the galaxy
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  Speaker 1: You already have that, Emmanuel Wilson. He's slower than Emmanuel Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: He is a glacier for a running back. He's got
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  Speaker 1: some running back skills. Of course. But if our issue
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  Speaker 1: is we don't have a running back that can get
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  Speaker 1: to the edge, we can't get a running back that
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  Speaker 1: can get to the stretch play or to the hole,
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  Speaker 1: Najee Harris ain't going to answer that. If we were
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  Speaker 1: lacking a running back that can get you a yard
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  Speaker 1: and a half, that's when you sign Najee Harris.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A goal line guy. Yeah. Or, you know, what we
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  Speaker 1: need is a guy that can catch a four-yard pass
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  Speaker 1: in the flat. Yeah. Then you sign Najee Harris. If
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  Speaker 1: that was really our biggest pressing concerning need, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's what Harris can do for you.
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  Speaker 2: Totally.
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  Speaker 4: All right, 360, stay the course. No rash decisions until
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  Speaker 4: we see what the potential of a healthy Sharps price
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  Speaker 4: combo can be.
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  Speaker 1: Stay the course. This is the thing, though. They have
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  Speaker 1: moved the NFL trading deadline. I think they're going to
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: keep moving the NFL trading deadline later into the season.
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  Speaker 1: And it has inspired teams to trade more. We have
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  Speaker 1: had 17 trades on average over the course of the
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: last three trading deadlines. Once upon a time, you were
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  Speaker 1: lucky to get two. Right. We've had 17. So teams
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  Speaker 1: are trading more than ever. Including the Seahawks, almost every year.
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  Speaker 1: So here is the thing. If you are going to
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  Speaker 1: take that mentality, just stay the course. That's fine. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's what they're going to do. But we're three
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  Speaker 1: weeks away from that deadline, and once it passes, now
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  Speaker 1: you're just trying to pick off corpses from the waiver wire.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: This is where the Tony Pollard suggestion might make the
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  Speaker 1: most sense. Depth, yeah. When you consider how John and
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  Speaker 1: Mike approach these things, who might be available, and it
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: gives you something. It gives you something to protect you
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: in case either Charbonnet or Price doesn't work out. Because
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Pollard can run between the tackles, and he's got a
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: little bit of juice.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he does.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: So that might make the most sense of all the suggestions,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: even though I would take the chance on Saquon Barkley
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: at the price that NFL trade rumors is suggesting you
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: could get him for, both financially and draft capital. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: All right, two more here.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: 206.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: This number looks really familiar. Oh, it was me texting him.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Might be a hot take. I don't think running back
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: is the most important position that we need to address
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: at the deadline.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: We need another pass catcher. Hugh Millen has said that
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Seattle does not have a second wide receiver multiple times.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: And this is before losing Elijah Arroyo long term. So
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: now you're down a tight end as well. I think
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: with the thought process with staying the course with Sharves
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: and Price combined with we don't have another guy that
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: can be productive in the wide receiver position. I think
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: that would almost be, I'd almost put that above the
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: running back need at this point.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, kid does not agree.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I can't agree. You don't have a run game. You
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: ain't throwing to JSN either, but he's just elite.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: But the reason you don't have a run game is
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: because you have two guys that are on their way
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: back from coming back from injury, right?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Well, Arroyo.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Was never like, unfortunately, he just. But that's another pass
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: catcher that you don't have.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: They got A.J. Bonner for that if need be.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: One tight end.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Well, that's all they needed last year, right? Because A.J.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Barnum was the man.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Mirror Mirror says running back would be the biggest need.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: That said, I don't disagree with you, Texter, with the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: familiar name number. I don't disagree. Mirror Mirror doesn't disagree
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: from this standpoint. I wouldn't be surprised at all if
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: John feels that way. That John's like, no, we're all
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: right with running back. I know what I'm doing. Price
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: is right.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Charbonnet will be the Charbonnet that we had a year ago.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Not great, but reliable. And I have other needs. I
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: didn't save that money for our salary cap for the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: trading deadline for a running back. I was saving that
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: for this position or that position. And I don't know
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: if it's tight end and I don't know if it's,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you know, wide receiver. Might be tight end now. Yeah.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's their thinking.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: They'll do something at the trading deadline. And maybe they
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: don't prioritize running back as the number one need at
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the deadline. That wouldn't surprise me at all.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, just considering what you have coming back soon.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: And again, we don't know what those two will look like.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: So I mean, we might disagree with it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: As a collective, that might be what they think. See
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: our fans. We might disagree with it, but I don't
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: discount that. That's the way John and Mike will approach
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: this thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: And then the person texting in that's familiar might not
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: necessarily think you're fine at running back. That doesn't mean
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: you don't want to go add one, but there might
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: be something else that is slightly above that.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: All right, last text. Last text. Keith in the 253.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Good morning, buddy. Let me know when football practice is
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: over roughly. Have a killer day at school. I love you.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Keith, I don't know.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Are you suggesting that your son would be someone to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: trade for? No, that's a message to me.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Keith and I love each other. And I've secretly been
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: going to football practice.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: So, red-handed. You got me. That honestly just warmed my heart.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I wanted to read it because it was like, I
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: understand it was meant to go to someone else, obviously,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: but getting that on the text line was like, oh,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: that's awesome.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Kit says we got one more that we have to
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: get in. What do we got?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Stay the course.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Stay with John.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Stay with Mike.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Keep what we have.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Trade for the offensive lineman from Indy. Hmm.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: We talked about that off the air earlier. Quentin Nelson. See,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: that sounds like something John would do. Yeah.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: I feel like we're great at running back. It's the
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: offensive line that's the issue.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: It sounds like something he would do.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Anthony Bradford's coming back. Are you kidding me?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I know, I know, but it's not Quentin Nelson.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: He's the best guard in the league. All right, well, look,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I think that... Here's the bottom line. I think it
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: is the number one need. I don't think John and
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Mike are ones for six games into the season saying, boy,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: we whiffed on that. I think they believe in what
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: they do, they believe in their process, and we should
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: trust in their process, for goodness sake. They're magical. What
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: a marriage. Two years in, it's the best marriage I've
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: ever come across. Better than any marriage I've ever been around,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: including yours. Wow! Yeah, I thought Augustine had some problems
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: with you at breakfast the other day. Shots fired. Wow.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I think if those numbers are pure, that
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: NFL trade Rumors are suggesting, oh, I'd be excited if
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I read today Saquon Barkley was traded to the Seahawks.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: And I think the very first suggestion of Tony Pollard
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: as just somebody that completes the room, just gives you
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: an extra option before you're out of them. Because if
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you go through the trading deadline and don't make a move,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: and Charbonnet's not 100% and Jadarian Price can't stay healthy...
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Now you're SOL at that stage. So I think I
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: would like to not have Emmanuel Wilson as the third option.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Fourth option, fine, but not the third option. All right,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: great stuff. Good stuff today. Way to go out there.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, college football playoff expansion. Man, we got
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: two college football insiders, and both of them are wrong
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: about this. Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. All right, it's Chuck
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Anders and Christopher Kidd with you here, Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Cam Cleland will be joining us at 9 o'clock. So
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I've got to deal with two of these guys, two
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: of these suckers this week. I didn't know there was
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: two of them at all in the world. I was
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: just enjoying my conversation yesterday so much with Rick Neuheisel.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: You know, we were really officiating.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Controversy. Controversies. And who's the best team? We don't know.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: We don't know the best team. And Demond Williams. What
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: a week in college football. Oh, incredible, incredible. And then
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I just threw out as the last question, like I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: was sure that he was going to tell me that
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: he hates the college football playoff expansion idea just as
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: much as I do. Because, you know what I know?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Because I thought Rick Neuheisel was smart. And instead he
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: had this flimsy excuse for why we have to have
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a 24-team college football playoff. Here's Coach.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: You have to understand why you need a 24-team college
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: football playoff. These presidents, these athletic directors, they all realize
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: they have to, if they're going to get the money
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: to pay these kids under the current system, They have
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: to have more access. They can't get as many yes
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: answers if the team can't make it to the dance.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: And if we have more slot, now I can be
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: more convincing that this is possible with your help. And
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: that is why they all push so hard for it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Will it be great for college football? Anybody's guess. But
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the bottom line is the answer is money. At the
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: end of the day is why we're doing it. Television
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: is willing to pay for it. And if you look
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and pull up who the matchups would be based on
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the top 24 in this week's AP rankings, you'll sit
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: there and go, you know what? That's going to be fun.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I don't like it because I don't want any destabilization
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: of the regular season. But I do understand... access based
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: on how we're creating our revenue for these particular teams
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and building rosters that can be competitive. You have to
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: have access.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Let me explain to you how wrong that is. Well,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and I love coach. I love coach, but he's just,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: he's off on this. Um, because that explanation is a
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: suggestion and just give you a 10.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Years.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: And I've, one of the main topics was warning everybody
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that this day was coming. The players are going to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: get paid and it was, and it's going to be uncomfortable.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: And at first we're not going to understand it and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: it's going to turn a lot of people off, but
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: it probably in the longterm is going to be better
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: for the game. It might be the only way to
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: save the college game. Otherwise the professional ranks may just
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: take it over. Right. And so they're going to have
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to embrace it to some degree. And then we went
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: through this period, sort of like an adolescence period, where
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: we had calyx and we had acne. And we didn't understand.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: We were a cute kid not long ago. And we
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: think we're going to be a handsome person eventually. But
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: we were in this stage with the college football NIL
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: world where we looked ugly. We looked ugly and oily
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and everything else. And yet the product was Singin'. No
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: matter how many people complained about it and said college
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: football was ruined, you were still watching. And it picked
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: up other watchers. I mean, the television ratings have been
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: incredible the last couple of years. The product on the
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: field has been incredible the last couple of years. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the college football playoff has not been incredible in its
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: two years, but certainly a dramatic improvement over the nonsense
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: we've dealt with all of our entire lives. Thank God
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: it quenched so many thirsts out there to have a
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: 12 team format, but there were problems with it. And,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: and one problem by one, we were ironing those out
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and we were getting to a, a finished 12 team
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: format and getting rid of all of those pitfalls. that
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you didn't see coming. And that's sports. There's always going
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: to be something that you didn't see coming because somebody's
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: always trying to skirt the rules. So you've got to
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: figure out a way to mend those warts and mend
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: those fences. So that's sort of the background where I'm
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: coming from. But Coach Neuheisel's explanation for why we need
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the 2014 college football playoff is accepting that what we
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: were watching is in college football right now, the rules
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: by which it is governed or the rules by which
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: it is not governed are here forever. I was under
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the distinct impression that we were going to have a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: period of martial law that was going to be very
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: difficult for all fans to get on board with But
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: that eventually a commissioner was coming and a collective bargaining
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: agreement and then a recognition that this is professional football
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and that we were going to put rules in place
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and all of this sort of thing to kind of
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: rein in some of this nonsense NIL spending. Reign in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: how many players were leaving via the transfer portal with
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: such ease. I was under the impression we were working
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: toward that. I was under the impression that our government
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: was working on ways in which to restrict players some
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: of the nonsense. So let's work on that and not
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: try to come up with a college playoff system that
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: serves a system we know is broken and it is
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: in the process of getting fixed. That's like having a
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: broken washing machine at home and saying, well, the only
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: thing we can do about it is break the dryer. Right?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, the washing machine won't work? Well, the only
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: solution is let's break the dryer, too.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Or make our entire flooring waterproof instead of just fixing
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: the dryer or the washing machine.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. Let's fix the washer. You're
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: breaking two things because the first thing's broken. It's just
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: awful logic to me. And so Rick's very smart. Love him.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Cam Cleland's very smart. Love him. Cam's on board with
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: his 2014 college football playoff as well. But you're going
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: to change something that we're fixing. That is a huge improvement.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Weakening it beyond what players want, beyond what fans want.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Because you're serving a system that we're in the process
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: of trying to fix. So are we going to, once
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: we do get our arms around the new world of
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: college football, going to go back to 12 teams? I
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: think it's nonsense. And I think it's terrible logic and reasoning.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: We want other teams to have more access. We can't
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: find 12 teams that are championship worthy now, much less 24.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: There was a computer that ran the entire college football
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: season this past year, and by the time you got
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs, because of NIL's kind of dominated, there
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: were so many dominant teams in college football that the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: computer was saying there were going to be like 50-point
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: blowouts all the way into the semifinals. Now we're going
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to add 24 teams? So we're just going to add
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: 12 teams to the list of teams that have no
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: shot or no business being in a tournament format to
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: decide a champion. This isn't college basketball. That's March Madness
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: for a reason. It's a one-and-done tournament. They are not
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: trying to determine the best team in college basketball with
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: that format. They are not. Now, it is part of
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: our lives. It's ingrained in our blood and our bones.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: And we like March Madness. And we don't even acknowledge
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that typically they don't crown the best team in college basketball.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: We're okay. We accepted that long ago. The idea behind
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the college football playoff was so that we felt better
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: about who won the national championship. Not to go back
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: to weakening it on the other side. And now we
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: have the potential, I guess... of crowning someone not deserving.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: So why couldn't we just go with finally some progress?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: It was the only thing in college football that was working,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that was singing, that wasn't angering the fan bases out there.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: And we've decided, no, let's change that too. Let's make
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: it worse. Let's bastardize it. And because we're just accepting
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: of the fact we can never fix this current state
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: of the game, So, well, we got to serve that
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: master first. No, fix what's wrong with the sport. Get
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: your arms around it. Fans are there for you. They're
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: supporting it. They're there for you to try to watch
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the product. All right. And so there's no rush to
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: try to get a new college football playoff system. Let
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: it play out and let's get it to the point.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: where it is exceptional while we're working on how to
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: fix all the things that are bothering college football right now.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: All right, coming up next on the program, we are
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: 10 days away from magic time. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: You haven't found like a funky, kind of sounds Halloween-y
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: kind of song. Yeah, it does.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: The woo!
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Chris, kids prepared for everything.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: This is almost weird.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Dr.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: CK.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Hey, man, when you gave me the show sheet, I
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: got to looking. As soon as I saw Halloween, I said, oh,
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: I got to find something nice and just right.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Wow. Most producers have just gone monster mash at this point.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Kids like, no, no, no. That's the easy way to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: do it. Yeah.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: I want this available for the podcasters.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make something original down in my basement.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: It's Chuck, it's Anders, and it's Christopher Kidd. Head on
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: out to Tulalip Resort Casino. Maybe take your Halloween spirit
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: with you to the Tulalip Resort Casino. I wonder if
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: you could go trick-or-treating there. I wonder if I went
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: by with just a big pillowcase and a Woody Woodpecker
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: mask on, and I just knocked on the front door
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and I said, trick-or-treat, if they'd throw some chips in
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: there and some vodka.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Do it as a show.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what you could get away with in
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that state. Yeah, they probably wouldn't have a ton of
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: kids there.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: No.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: So the candy aspect, but you could do adult trick-or-treating.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I'm sure there's some sort of— I'm just saying, like,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: what if I went trick-or-treating? I bet no one's ever
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: tried it before.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: You're right. I wonder how they would step up. As
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: a show, we should go out there and do it. Yeah,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: maybe they'd give me bourbon and a pizza.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: We'd have to dress up, though.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I'll be Jackson. You can be Bane and Chuck can
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: be Softie.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll give me some money to gamble with. I
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know. That'd be cool.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll give me a room to stay in.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: But hey, go try it out and report back to us,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Tulalip Resort Casino, when all you want is more of everything.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Ten days from Halloween. Are you and the family ready
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  Speaker 1: to go? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we don't have a ton of decorations, which
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  Speaker 4: is unlike my wife. Because she's very.
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  Speaker 1: Much- Are they into Halloween down in Argentina? No, no.
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  Speaker 1: If you celebrate Halloween, you're celebrating the devil.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's a very Catholic country.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: So it's very much no. But I mean, she's somewhat
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  Speaker 1: embraced it here. But we have so much fun celebrating
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  Speaker 1: the devil in America. It's true. It's very true. It's
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  Speaker 1: just so much fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There's candy and everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And- it's funny how even Catholic schools here embrace it. Like, Oh, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: dress up, you know, bring your jack-o'-lanterns and stuff. And
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  Speaker 4: we tried to spin it, you know, how Americans get,
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  Speaker 4: you know, spin it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's like a devil. Well, you know, Hey, let's commercialize.
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  Speaker 3: Everything for Halloween. I ain't the devil.
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  Speaker 1: We will do anything. I'm, I'm frankly surprised. Like groundhog
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  Speaker 1: day is just not a big drunk fest. I, what
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  Speaker 1: are we waiting for?
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  Speaker 3: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, what are you doing for Arbor Day this year?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: What are you guys doing? Big party at our house.
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  Speaker 1: It's Flag Day. Come on.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, Candy.
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  Speaker 1: We're having a big pot roast. Whole family's coming over. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we look for reasons to celebrate. That's for sure. It's true.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe a little too much. So she's having a little
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  Speaker 1: hard time getting into it then? Well, no, it's not.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say it's not from a lack of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, oh, I hate Halloween or anything like that.
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  Speaker 4: She's actually, if anything, getting into it more because we
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  Speaker 4: have a kid now. And that kind of the whole
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  Speaker 4: child aspect of everything is adding to the elements. But
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  Speaker 4: in terms of the decorating, which she loves to do.
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  Speaker 4: It's tough because we're redoing our kitchen, so we've got
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  Speaker 4: a lot of boxes everywhere and trying to pack everything
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  Speaker 4: up at the same time, and it's hard to really
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  Speaker 4: get into the full-on decorative spirit when your entire main
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  Speaker 4: floor is everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. What about you, kid? Do you do anything
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  Speaker 1: for Halloween these days? Me and the wife just— I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're 10 days away. Like, it is here. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I think happened? Yeah, I can tell. No,
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  Speaker 1: I usually am, but usually there's a bigger countdown. But
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  Speaker 1: you know what I think happened is that the grocery
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  Speaker 1: stores put Halloween candy out now in late July.
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  Speaker 3: It's true.
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  Speaker 1: And then it just numbs you to when it's actually
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  Speaker 1: time to start looking forward to it. I mean, this
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  Speaker 1: kind of snuck up on me. I mean, we've had
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  Speaker 1: Halloween decorations up in our stores for a month and
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  Speaker 1: a half.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden when we should start
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  Speaker 1: really ramping it up, We're 10 days away, and I
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  Speaker 1: haven't really given it any thought. So you got any plans?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going to binge watch a bunch of slasher
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  Speaker 5: and horror films with the wife. Because she's not a
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  Speaker 5: big scary movie gal. So for her, it's kind of
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  Speaker 5: like diving into another realm. Because that's my thing, as
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  Speaker 5: Anderson knows pretty well. So for me, I'm excited just
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  Speaker 5: to do that with her, even though she's like, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Give me an idea. Because there are different types of
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  Speaker 1: Halloween scary movies. Give me the idea. What is your
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  Speaker 1: ideal movie? Halloween movie.
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  Speaker 3: I'm big on, like, Possession, Demons, that type of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Give me the movie.
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  Speaker 3: The Conjuring.
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  Speaker 1: The Conjuring.
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  Speaker 3: Have you seen any of those, Chuck?
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  Speaker 1: I have seen one of them. But there are several
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  Speaker 1: of them now, right?
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  Speaker 3: I would recommend watching the second one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: If you haven't seen it. I think you've seen the
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  Speaker 3: first one.
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  Speaker 1: That's, like, based on a true story, though.
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  Speaker 5: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: So, you know, going to bed at night, Chuck, you
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  Speaker 3: might be like, good God, why would I do that?
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  Speaker 5: But it's the aspect of the acting and how thought
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  Speaker 5: out the story is done, I think it's really.
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  Speaker 3: well-written and i think you'd enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: It so yeah i was sure that the movies that
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  Speaker 1: i grew up with were the scariest but you don't
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  Speaker 1: realize when you're like 2021 that the reason they were
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  Speaker 1: the scariest is because you were nine when you were
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  Speaker 1: watching them yeah right yeah so i remember as an
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  Speaker 1: adult and i started dating this girl and she wanted
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  Speaker 1: to stay in for halloween which i don't think was
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  Speaker 1: her mo I think she was a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a partier, a little bit of a rager.
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  Speaker 3: What are we doing here?
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  Speaker 1: So I kind of looked at it as like, oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Let's stay here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're saying. I know what you're
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  Speaker 1: getting at. You want me to mask up. That's what
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  Speaker 1: you're telling me. You want a full-size Snickers bar. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I– Not as fun-sized stuff. Yeah, that's how I
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  Speaker 1: took that.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So she's like, yeah, you can get a couple of movies.
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  Speaker 1: And so I go, and she was a little younger
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  Speaker 1: than me. Not quite a full generation, but young. But
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  Speaker 1: she was too young to have seen the movies that
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  Speaker 1: I grew up with as a kid, like Halloween and
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  Speaker 1: Children of the Corn. And, of course, I give the
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  Speaker 1: whole speech there, because I think there were still blockbusters
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  Speaker 1: around or something like that. I give the whole speech of, like,
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  Speaker 1: they don't make scary movies the way they used to.
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  Speaker 1: I sounded like I was 72 when i was like
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  Speaker 1: 30 yeah yeah they don't make them like i'll get
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  Speaker 1: you two movies if you haven't seen these before you're
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  Speaker 1: a fool you'll love these and we put them in
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  Speaker 1: and i'm like i and i'm all excited about it
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  Speaker 1: and also the sex that was going to come later
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  Speaker 1: and and we start watching it and i start like
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  Speaker 1: feeling guilty i'm like this is terrible and i did
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  Speaker 1: not want to admit it i'm like this is horrible
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  Speaker 1: why do i remember halloween being so great i was
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  Speaker 1: i swear it was better when i watched it the
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  Speaker 1: first time the acting is terrible the storyline is weak
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  Speaker 1: you ain't getting no sex after this yeah and so
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  Speaker 1: i'm trying to decide when i admit to her that
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  Speaker 1: it's terrible so I don't throw off the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the night. And so about a third of the way in,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, let's try the other one. She's like, why?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, because this is terrible. She goes, well, I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad you said it. Then I put in Children of
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  Speaker 1: the Corn, and I didn't even make it five minutes.
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  Speaker 1: That was even worse. That was just ugly kids hanging
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  Speaker 1: out in a corn maze.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm always so scary about Children of the Corn.
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  Speaker 1: I guess if ugly children are scary, I guess that that–
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  Speaker 1: So we just abandoned the whole thing. And I think, frankly,
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  Speaker 1: it affected her feelings for me. I really do.
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  Speaker 3: You thought these movies were good?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So what year was this, Chuck? Oh, I don't even know.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway. And then she found out that she wasn't
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  Speaker 1: getting a full-size snicker bar either.
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  Speaker 2: So....
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  Speaker 1: So it affected you in many ways. It was an
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  Speaker 1: offer for her that night. Did you see her for Thanksgiving?
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  Speaker 1: She had a whimby night. She was over her first
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  Speaker 1: 12 from the field on Halloween night. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: we did make it to Thanksgiving now that I think
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 3: No dressing either.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even sure if we made it to November.
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