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In The Back Garden | Tales of The Shadow People · DEADBUG SAYS

• 0:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: You were about to partake in a dead bug, partcast, and this partcast isn't for the faint heart, and it certainly isn't for children.
• 0:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if you're ready to proceed, I would ask if you, one thing that is to dim the lights, shut the fuck up, smoke a miffy gautam, and enjoy.
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the Midlands, which is in the UK, are England.
• 0:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not the kind of place that announces itself it.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: It don't glow at night, but doesn't seduce ya.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I make you want to be there.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty safe to say that Derby is just concrete.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Repetition, rose and rose of ugly terrorist houses that look like they needed to be built quickly.
• 1:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And there will never meant to be loved.
• 1:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: The type of place you drive through and don't realize it until someone tells you later, cigarette stains on all the white houses that cease to be white a long time ago.
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe his pollution, or maybe his boat, with short streets, narrow pavements, more backgones, and look more like sandboxes, where the grass is dead no matter what season.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Archipide by stained mattresses, abandoned kids toys, and rusted up swing sets.
• 1:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: The fences that are falling apart and missing boards that seem too low for privacy.
• 1:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just more, there is a boundary.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: The air thickened heavy with the smell of curry and body odor.
• 2:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a kind of towel when nothing ever fails to know.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing ever really leaves.
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Things just settle.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's population.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: People couple up by the time they're 15.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Have a kid, 17, 18.
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And our life is set in stone.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And tourists' attraction is that it's got the UK's only computer museum.
• 2:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: There should be a welcome sign on its borders.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Saying welcome to Derby.
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you born here, you're going to die here.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's Derby for you.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was 2010, and this God forsaken landscape.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: No one knows the exact day, the month, or the season, except for one person, used to be too, beneath a musquake, but what we do know as a woman, ceased to exist, not officially, not legally, just in reality, and that's the story that we'll be exploring on this episode,
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: those of the young, and those of the old.
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those of the old, and those of the old.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those of the old, and those of the old.
• 3:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those of the lurk, and those of the show.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: For many which of whose participants may never know.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But perhaps there are those whose tales should never be told.
• 3:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And those are the tales of the shadow people.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Isabella's a blanca, who's 30 years old.
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: She had dark hair, cracked the cook close, not the flashy.
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's safe to say she looked like a buch, like a dude.
• 4:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think I'd be offended by saying that.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm guessing that that was the look she was going for.
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now she liked to be seen.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: She looked like someone who worked for a living.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because she did.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Isabella was a cleaner.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Early mornings, late finishes, she worked hard.
• 4:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Clean up other people's masses.
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: The kind of job that doesn't come home with stories.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: You just come home exhausted.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: She'd come to the UK from Poland in 2009.
• 5:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she lived with her partner, Anna, Potter Warner, Anna, because a few years older.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Stalkia, I guess if I were using kind words, broad shoulders, short hair.
• 5:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: She looked like a bunch too.
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess the technical term that they would be known as amongst their peers is Tykes or Bulltikes.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I myself wouldn't use such vernacular,
• 5:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they would be known as if they were on Grindel what not, and she worked as a butcher, which is kind of apt because if I were more cruelly inclined, I would say that she had a face, like a butcher's dog, chewing on a mouth full of wasps.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I certainly don't have an affinity for cruelty, so I'll leave the description at that.
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: With a body that was wide and close to the ground, and fingers like sausages, or a palm full of bananas, working in cold rooms, blood on the floor, the smell at the cayenne flesh.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: We sharp knives, they belong to her, such she smelled like rotted meat.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: But she liked the job.
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess she liked to work on what that thing's.
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: The two had met in Poland for five years earlier, and I guess it's safe to say that they were in love.
• 6:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Isabella had a daughter, a young daughter, that she left in Poland with family, no one knows the reasons why, and I guess no one asked, and no one might have judged, it's judging me my business.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why they settled in Derby, no one knows.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it was easy.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: They got off the planning Birmingham, and it was there.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: They moved into one of the small terrorist shitty little houses on Princess Street, with a front door open straight onto the pavement, narrow hallways, a kitchen at the back, leading into a fence garden.
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing about the house suggested ambition.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: It suggested practicality.
• 7:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was cheap and cheap with they needed.
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't earn a lot, don't what they did.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: The two blended in quickly, even though people knew and joked that they were bush munches, physicists as one not.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they didn't stand out despite that.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't cause any problems, they weren't loud.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Neighbors would say about them what they say about anybody else, they kept to themselves.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: They seemed all right, they were polite enough.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: never seemed to copy any attitude, and there were a lot of immigrants in the area, especially Pollocks.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: They shopped locally at the Polish stores, hung that laundry in the backyard like anyone else.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Walked the same routes, lived on routine.
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I left early for walk.
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is it bell cleaned whenever there was work to be had?
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes they were seen together, sometimes not.
• 8:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were all pretty normal.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Though in those signs, no public drama, no screaming, no fights in the street, no police visits.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: From the outside, they looked stable.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mrs. Bell often talked about Poland, and about family with the neighbours, and about her daughter.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: The child, as mentioned, wasn't with her in England.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: She left the behind with relatives, which I guess you could judge if you were, judgmental.
• 8:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: But though, she said it was not usual.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a plan, but it wasn't the ending.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: She hoped the one they get aback.
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Work first.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: But perhaps maybe that was what she was telling herself, to ease the guilt.
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: So she could sleep at night.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Has a Bella believed that she was building something a life that would make sense later.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it didn't talk much more about the future.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: She just talked about work, cutting up things, about being tired, about small, immediate things.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: She won't much of a talk as she will more of a grunt her, so it would definitely the male and the relationship and what she lacked in personality she made up for and looked.
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe she hadn't either, but there must have been something good about her.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's no record if their relationship was accepted in Poland, or amongst their family.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: But what we do know is that they shared the meals, they shared the bills, and they shared a bed.
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: They shed a small life, small enough to fit inside one of those shitty, da-be terrorist houses, and if there were problems, they kept them inside the house.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if there were tensions, they never spelled out onto the street.
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess, like the Big Fad, then the guts to spelled out on the table went Anna with her butcher's cleaver, went to walk.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was at some point in 2010 that the call stopped from the UK and the return calls from Poland.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing dramatic, no final argument or goodbye, they just stopped.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Isabella had no family in the UK, only back in Poland, that was where her daughter was.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And relatives who expect to hear from her, at first a silence that didn't seem like something was wrong.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like life, people miss a week, then they miss two phones get lost, numbers change.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Money runs out, pedi arguments with time, turning the bigger arguments I guess.
• 11:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: His ability to younger sisters, and an older brother, but they were never close.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Her older brother suffered from depression.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: wasn't good on the phone anyway, and the sisters, they didn't approve of a lifestyle.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And although her mother was closed to her, she was Catholic, and she didn't approve of the lifestyle either.
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And her father had left home, which was a teenager.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for anyone who ever had a family living overseas, you know how fragile communications can be with time zones, shift work, exhaustion,
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Especially when you're working jobs that don't leave much energy at the end of the day for petty conversations, so trivial at best.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's easy to tell yourself that she's busy, she'll call, I'll call her later, she's just saw things out, she's busy.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: When someone moves abroad, distance, kind of becomes part of the relationship.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't see the deadly changes, you don't see who they're becoming.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're only here, but they choose to tell you.
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes, you don't hear anything at all.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sam, who worked a lot so as Polish, Delhi, Bakery, and Grocery, the best in Derby.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently, known for its wide assortment of canned meats.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's hard to find a good canned meat nowadays, and I guess if you find a place it doesn't well.
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, you stick to it.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I digress.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: According to Sam, who seemed well connected within the Polish community, Anna and Isabella were coming there often, especially on Sundays.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But Isabella, the friendlier of the two, had stopped coming in, and when you'd ask Anna where Isabella was, she won't forthcoming, she usually just grunt.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: He'd stop sure to say that she were a manheader, but let's just say she want the sociable type.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: On one Sunday, when he decided to push on the subject, Anna snapped back that Isabella had gone back home to a daughter and Poland, and she wouldn't be returnin.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the way she said it, he knew not to push and not to ask again, and he figured maybe they'd just broken up and gotten that separate ways.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was the same thing with the neighbors, and had never been the one who spoke too much.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: They knew her for more her grunts and keeping her head down.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Trying to avoid contact is a ballad always been the social one.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: But a few of the neighbours became concerned because the flowers that she usually tended in the front garden had all died.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anna said the same thing, her answer were quick and cur'd.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: She'd gone back home to Poland, where she had a daughter.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And although it wasn't said by Anna, they figured they'd gone that separate ways because Anna started to bring a series of women back to the home.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when the summer air became thick and muggy, the windows had to be open.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: They could hear the male-like grunts coming from the window that Anna once shared with Isabella.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anna, they can care of business.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I guess if our business were being a diek,
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: business were good, because just down the road a short walk away was an establishment called Dabis Burri Arms, a pub, that held a diesel-dike club night on Friday's, and were known for creating a buch, femme-friendly lesbian-focused space.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess for women who wanted to get off.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: In case you couldn't tell, I was just reading that off of their website.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I added the
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: For a long time silence works, it becomes normal.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: But silence isn't solid.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: It shifts when other people move through it.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then diving, routine, kept turning, and Anna kept walking, cutting up our animal carcasses.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: The smell of flesh.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: The sound of her cleave a hit in bone.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Something she admitted to her, many lovers that she enjoyed.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: She got off on it.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: My uncle George worked at a pickle factory
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Outside of work, her life didn't stop.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I had expanded.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some would say it even picked up.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: People who knew Anna and ran with that crowd during these years were later described her as a socially competent individual, which I personally find hard to believe looking at a picture.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: But like I said, I don't move with those crowds.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: She was known to be charismatic in a blunt sort of way, and if he didn't run with that crowd, it may be construed as rude.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: One single again, Anna was the think about Talon and was in many relationships.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some brief, some more involved.
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I guess that one unusual one, there's a breakup.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: People move on.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: In a testament to her temper, and possibly her controlling ways, one neighbor reported, hearing some crying outside of the house.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just after midnight, and what she looked at her window, she saw in the front garden, a woman who looked like to be a teenager going down on in her.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then Anna, pulling her up and smacking her and screaming that she just wasn't good enough.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: She said that she'd called the police, but the police told her it was Friday night and they had more important things than doppied to worry about than a loveous death.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: The neighbor thought of imagining at the Anna, but admitted, being frightened, because she knew Anna had a temper, and being the fact that she was elderly, and Anna had often run errands for her, she didn't want to start a bad relationship with the neighbor.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: But she did gossip with the other neighbors during the day when the sun was shining.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they did have questions.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not accusations but just curiosity.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: What had happened there's a bellar?
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: What she loved was a messy.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Was it sudden?
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did she really get up and just leave everything behind?
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: One of the neighbors said that she'd taken a parcel in Farana, and what she'd knocked
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: She noticed that a satchel that is about a carried every day, along with a coat, was still hanging at the front door.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: If she moved back to Poland, that she leaves so quickly she wouldn't even take a jacket or a carry-in-back.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mrs. Clevverly, who lived four houses down and considered herself a bit of an amateur slewth.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: She asked further questions, she knew Isabella had worked at the school, as a cleaner.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Mrs. Clevver Lee's daughter had been a teacher's assistant there, and she asked them what happened to Isabella.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they said, they don't know.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't even quit.
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: She just stopped showing up, and she even left some of her belongings there, her cleaning stuff.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when they tried the collar to return it,
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was nothing her mobile had been discontinued, and yeah sure, they accepted that she might have gone home back the Poland, but it certainly wasn't in a character to leave without saying goodbye.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, one of the young teachers had said that Isabella had given her a plan on her birthday.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: A little cactus, as she still had on a window sill, she found it so sweet that a woman who obviously didn't make a lot of money, will go out and buy something for her birthday.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she was a bit hurt that Isabella had left and gone back to Poland without saying goodbye.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And fact upon further investigation, when they spoke to the headmistress, Isabella hadn't even collected a final paycheck.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now, 15 years had passed.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Since anyone saw Hannah, and the people, they stopped talking, and they stopped wondering.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: She was gone.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a funny thing about time and time's passing.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: The more people you let into your life, the greater the chance the one of them is, something that maybe they want me there.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: A comment said casually, or maybe while you're fucking
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or in Drunken Anga, maybe someone asked you a question, and your answer is just a little too rust.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: How we certainly know by the neighbours accounts that Anna had a lot of love us, and at least by one neighbours account.
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those relationships could be tumultuous, like boxes stacked in an unused room that all of the name is a bellaritten on them.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: and a moldy passport and the bathroom cabinet that has Isabella's name on it.
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: How does it well again home to see a daughter without a passport?
• 20:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess teenage lovers can be nosy when you have to go to work and you leave them alone at home.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was in 2025 when Derby police received the call and they spoke to someone.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know the exact circumstances, but the police received information, not a vague suspicion or gossip, but information specific enough to justify paying a visit to 24 Princess Street and speaking to the Bull Dyke named Anna.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they told the Bull Dyke that they had information, leading them to believe that her lover is a bell's a blogger.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't impolent and fat.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: She would bury it in the back garden when they confronted Anna with this.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Her face was emotionalists.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some may even say there was arrogance in her eyes.
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: As the fish and chip-eaten peggies pushed their way through, been headed down the thin, narrow corridor into the back garden.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: When they stepped outside, the garden was now covered with concrete.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Man had told them that she got sick of the grass, dying, and collected water, so she had a covered with concrete 10 years earlier.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was only in our later, the Diggas arrived at the property on Princess Street and removed the fence and started smashing up that concrete and then forensics went to work and started carefully digging up the dirt and sifting through it.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, the bull-dark butcher stood in the kitchen watching and it was less than 30 minutes as a soil was being removed
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: that Anna's past resurfaced, human remains.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: At the forensic testing confirmed what silence had hidden since 2010.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: That Anna's lover, Isabella, she hadn't gone back to Poland.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: She had never started over.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: She'd never left at all.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And police arrested Anna Potter Warner on suspicion, a killing her lover, and barring her in the backyard.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anna would later tell the police that, yeah, I show.
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: She killed Isabella, but it wasn't self-defense.
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently, Isabella was extremely jealous.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: and many women had wanted a piece of the butcher butcher's meat and this infuriated Isabella and she'd often attack Anna.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And according to the butcher butcher, after one night of drinking and passionate love making, Anna accidentally called Isabella by another name and this threw Isabella off the rails.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she picked up the butcher's cleaver that had been left on the kitchen table and came out her.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the butcher went into reflex mode and when his bell-ed come out her with the cleaver, she took her down and started banging her head on the floor and they got just things got carried away and she banged up maybe one or two times too many.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she realized she'd killed her.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: believing that because she was a homosexual and the whole Mafobia, that surrounds it she wouldn't be treated fairly if she came forward.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So she used her butcher skills, and she cut up a lover, and wept while she did it.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then she had the garden that once grew her love as flowers, concrete it over, to hide her secret.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Prosecutors told the jury that the body had been dismembered and had required a considerable amount of force because of how difficult it would have been to cut through the bone and the spine.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: As a bellous legs were bound with electrical tape before burial.
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: leaving the forensics to state that there was a potential that Anna had still been alive when a lover cut her up.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: This membered remains were placed in black plastic bin bags, Macarbage bags.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: The bags were then buried in the garden of the house.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: that the two lovers had shared, and after that, the concrete was laid over it.
• 25:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Only a week after she'd been put there, effectively, sealing the parts in place for years.
• 25:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Witnesses described it as a filthy makeshift grave that more for roadkill than a human being
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: and speaking of the data, it was during the trial that information came out, which eventually led police to the backyard grave.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a grown-up data who had contacted a Paulus journalist in her country and told her that a mother had disappeared and cut off contact with all of her family, not even a goodbye.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was unlike her mother and the family had suspicions that it were at Bull Dyke Lesbian Lover.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: When the Pollock Journalists contacted Derbitsha Police and told them what had happened, and there's suspicions, the police remembered, me as earlier, getting a phone call from a distressed underage girl.
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Saying that she'd been in a relationship with a bull-dike butcher, as she told her, that she killed someone, and threatened the underage girl, telling her she wanted the type of person who liked to be pushed.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: But when they sobered the team up, she refused to press charges or reveal any more information so they couldn't go any further with it.
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: But now, it all added up, and even the address is matched.
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was in May at 2025 that they'd been contacted by the Polish journalist.
• 26:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was June 1st 2025 that they found Isabella's remains.
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And all of her possessions stuffed in a suitcase and a couple of boxes in the linen closet and amongst those possessions.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: They found a photograph of Isabella's daughter, and now an adult.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: They gave her that picture, kept by the bedside by a mother that she'd never known.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then she thought her forgotten about her, but the father's thing was from the truth.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Bulldog Butcher was convicted at Derby Crown Court in February 10th, 2026 at the murder of a lover and prevent a lawful burial that's performed the course of justice and was sentenced to a life imprisonment, a minimum of 21 years, as she stood head down in a motionless in the dark listening to her fate.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: and has an casual observer and taxpayer in citizen.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I ain't ashamed to ask of how is this punishment sending a bunch of bunch of bunch of bull-dike to a place where there are plenty just like her.
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like sending a fat man to an all you can eat buffet, but I guess at the end of it all, at Domaro, and this is just another tale.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: From the shadow people.
• 29:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would have beautiful morning to be more than you I would have wonderful surprise I would have gorgeous excuse to wear my new meshes
• 29:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Six feet deep at the same spot Where do we go when we go?
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I want to know Sometimes I don't And where do we lay when we lie?
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why do we think that we have so much time?
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I saw your face and son
• 30:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Life in the trunk and maybe you're happy or not
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Make that we have so much time I'm happy I'm sure
• 32:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why did we hug a knee-pun?
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I hope you've enjoyed this podcast, and remember, the best way to support me is to spread the word, or spread the disease, as I like to say, and until next time, that box says no more.