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Beauty and the Beast and Taking On New Chapters | with Sybrina Ely from Kenbry Capital · Yes And Land

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  So I was a stay at home mom for 25 years and
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  I wanted to challenge this other part of me that
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  I knew that I had. And it was like, I know that
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  I have something out there to give. I didn't
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  know exactly what it was and posture syndrome
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  to a T. I deal with it every single day. I think
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  every time I walk into a room of really intellectual
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  people who have been in the industry for 30 years,
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  it just led me to this idea of I think it's okay
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  to just Go. And just do. She warned him not to
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  be deceived by appearances, for beauty is found
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  within. It actually makes me a little bit choked
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  up. Don't ever underestimate somebody and also
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  accept the journey that you've been given. There
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  are those really gory, ugly parts that you think,
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  I'm not gonna make it through this. And then
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  when you do, you go. I'm so much better that
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  I got that opportunity to have that really horrible
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  thing happen. You can choose courage or you can
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  choose comfort, but you cannot have both. 100%.
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  Welcome to Yes And Land, where we say yes to
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  the reality of yesterday and today, and we say
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  and to the possibility, growth, and imagination
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  of tomorrow. So excited to have you here today,
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  Sabrina. We're gonna be talking today about some
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  fun things, but as a quick introduction, I mean,
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  so you've got this awesome company, Kenbury Capital,
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  and we're gonna talk a little bit about your
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  journey to get there, to having this cool company
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  that you're the owner of, which is awesome, and
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  what gave you the strength to do that. We're
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  gonna talk about new chapters and taking on new
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  challenges. And we're going to do that through
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  the lens of Beauty and the Beast today, which
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  is pretty fun. Like one of the, you know, one
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  of the best Disney movies ever, right? Early,
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  early 90s. We call that the Disney decade or
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  the Disney Renaissance, where Disney had struggled
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  for a few years in the early 80s. And then they
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  had this kind of Renaissance when they brought
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  on Michael Eisner. Started with Little Mermaid,
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  but then... quickly thereafter was Beauty and
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  the Beast, which was just like this huge hit,
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  this phenomenon, right? Amazing movie. Probably
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  shaped your growing up much like it did mine.
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  Completely. Yeah. So we're excited to kind of
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  go through what some of that is today with you.
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  So first off, let's start with what your background
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  is. What's your journey, where it started, all
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  the way up into kind of where you are today with
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  your company? So. As far as like my journey goes
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  so I was a stay -at -home mom for 25 years 25
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  years and how many kids did you have? I had two
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  kids two kids and a daughter and so fun Yep,
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  now they're grown up and out of the house and
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  moving on with lives of their own. Do you have
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  any grandkids yet? Oh, no No, not yet Let's not
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  push that yet. Let's not push it yet. But I hear
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  it's the greatest I'm excited for I'm very much
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  looking forward to it and sharing this Disney
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  experience with my kids is the one thing that
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  I can't wait for so yeah, so when those those
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  little grandies come around. It's gonna be a
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  whole nother chapter of what life looks like
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  for me. Did y 'all go to Disneyland at all? We
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  did. So I wouldn't say that we were a Disney
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  family. We were Disney movie watchers. So we
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  did end up in Disney World a handful of times,
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  and then also Disneyland a handful of times.
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  And funny story, the last time I was in Disneyland
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  was in 2024. Okay, it's a couple years ago. Just
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  a couple years ago. And to go with your kids,
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  when they are adults is a unique experience because
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  they have all of the parts of Disney that they
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  remember and they want to get those things in.
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  And you're going, oh, but there's, you know,
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  there's the Peter Pan ride and there's Mr. Toad's
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  wild ride. And, and you want to have those younger
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  experiences with them. And they're going, oh
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  no, we have a completely different experience
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  of what Disneyland looks like. So it's fun to,
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  it's fun to kind of see that you don't ever out
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  of it you don't ever grow out of it when I watched
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  Beauty and the Beast when I was I'm not gonna
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  say how old I was but when I was younger you
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  know it was a different experience as from when
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  I watched it you know five years ago and it's
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  like you see the themes and the thing that's
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  really great about Disney is that the themes
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  fall in line for every age group and everybody
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  can get something out of it and so it was interesting
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  when I a couple years ago I read kind of the
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  preeminent biography on Walt Disney. And in there,
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  it talked about that when he was first making
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  Snow White specifically, right, the first full
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  -length animated feature, he made it designed
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  to be for everybody, including adults. It was
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  not designed to be a kid -only movie at all.
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  In fact, he took pride in the fact that as he
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  made movies, that they were supposed to be for
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  adults as well. And I think... Certainly there's
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  some now because there's are so many that were
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  clearly designed for kids You know some of those
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  straight to Disney Channel or Disney Plus were
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  designed for kids But yeah, there's a lot of
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  themes throughout the Disney movies, especially
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  the full -length animated features that There
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  really are, you know, lessons that you can pull,
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  but also things that are fun for adults to see
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  as well. Things that maybe only adults even get
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  as far as the humor goes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because
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  you don't have littles, so I'm sure you don't
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  know Bluey. I don't know Bluey. But my goodness,
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  with Bluey, like, my kids absolutely love it,
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  especially my five -year -old. But the writers
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  are so clever, because there's definitely things
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  as an adult, I'm like, oh yeah. I feel those
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  parents' pain with those little ones. The dad
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  and the mom and that show are hilarious and it's
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  it's just great because and I can enjoy it with
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  them Yeah, and it's that they don't even understand
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  like they have no idea what the pain of the parents
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  is, right? But I relate but then it's like you're
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  not in pain watching the show because you're
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  going oh my gosh I can completely relate to this.
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  Yeah. Yeah, so there's there's a lot of things
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  like that in some of these Disney movies And
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  I also think with most things right like is anything
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  perfect. No Could you always make the argument
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  that? certain things are outdated, yes. But I
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  also think when you want to kind of have a growth
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  mentality and learn from things and look a little
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  deeper, there's lots of things that you can learn
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  from. In anything that I see or I read, it's
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  never like I'm gonna follow 100 % of what it
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  says. You know, it's like, okay, let me pull
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  out the good things. I can kind of disregard
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  the other things, but even when I read a really
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  good book, it's that same thing, right? Like,
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  oh, I read this amazing self -help book, but
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  it's still, I'm gonna use like 10 % of it. And
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  I think that's the case with Disney movies, especially
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  when I hear like criticisms of some of them,
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  like, okay, yeah, look, that's fine, yeah. There's
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  some things that aren't great, but. Other things
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  are yeah, I mean I I think about watching Disney
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  movies when I was I was really young and it was
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  like Why do they always have that scary part?
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  You know and then like even my kids as they were
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  growing up. It would be like they would inch
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  a little bit closer on the couch during, you
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  know, like kind of those more intense scenes
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  and the score of the movie, just anticipation
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  and and then like the loveliness of like a slower
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  scene. And and I think that they they're really,
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  really true, great storytellers and just. watching
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  that and putting that in line with like, it really
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  our whole lives are a story. And if we take it
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  too serious, and we don't just look at that as,
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  you know what, this is the really, really scary
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  part of my story. And this is the really lovely
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  part of my story where I get to slow down and
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  enjoy this really beautiful scene. I think that
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  it gives us an opportunity to, you know, just
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  live life in a cinematic way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
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  I mean, it's it's part of why storytelling is
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  so important. And it's why throughout human history,
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  we've engaged in storytelling because it's what
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  life is, right? We are all engaged in a story.
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  Are you familiar with the movie Brave? Yes. Oh,
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  you are. OK, I was thinking maybe you weren't
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  because your kids are too old. But yeah. So that
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  movie, speaking of scary parts like my daughters,
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  who are 10 and five, they still don't love watching
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  it because of the scary part with the with the
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  the bear. Sure. The bad bear. Right. I think
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  it's more do. Yeah, because it is so scary for
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  them. It's like that. I don't want to watch that
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  dad. I'm like, no, no, it's really great Yeah,
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  it's such a good movie and then the same time
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  fast -forward fast -forward fast -forward Yeah,
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  like hey, that's what I need to tell them. Hey,
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  we can fast -forward past a couple parts there
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  and then one day you'll appreciate it Yeah, yeah,
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  that's exactly right. Yeah, so you're you were
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  a stay -at -home mom for 25 years I was so what
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  was it that made you decide to? Do something
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  with business like what did that look like for
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  you? So I think i've always had an entrepreneurial
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  spirit i've always enjoyed creation So I like
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  being creative um, and when you're a stay at
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  home mom, you can have that fall into the sense
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  of Decorating your home or making a delicious
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  dinner or you know helping your kids get dressed
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  for school and so Creation looks a little bit
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  different on that side and I wanted to challenge
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  um this other part of me that I knew that I had
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  and it was like like I know that I have something
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  out there to give. I didn't know exactly what
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  it was. And when I was picking my business selfishly,
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  I picked it around my kids. And I threw a dart.
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  And so it was kind of like what would fit into
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  both of my kids are college athletes. And so
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  I wanted to have the freedom of traveling to
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  their sporting events. I wanted to have the freedom
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  of when I do have grandkids. I want to be the
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  fun grandma. I want to be the first one to call
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  up and say, send them over. I've got them for
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  a week. Take a cruise with your hubby, whatever
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  that looks like. And so I really wanted the flexibility
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  and autonomy of owning my own business. And so
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  being, I would say, a little bit courageous and
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  fearless in the sense that if I don't try it,
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  I'll never know. And so I just... took a leap
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  and went for it and Here I am three years later,
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  and I think that I have another good 15 20 years
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  left in me So I have a full another Book if you
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  want to call it that it's a chapter Maybe I don't
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  know if it might be a series a series of books
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  that sure yeah You might this might be your trilogy,
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  right? This is like book two of your trilogy.
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  Yeah, I'm with you Yeah, so this could be book
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  two. Okay. Yeah, I love it. So One thing I want
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  to ask you about, that I just heard, is that
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  your kids are college athletes. Yes. Which is
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  so interesting. I think there's so many lessons
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  from kids playing sports. Yes. What are they
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  athletes in? What are their sports? So my daughter
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  was a college rodeo barrel racer. Whoa, that's
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  intense. Yes. And so she went to the University
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  of Wyoming and was a barrel racer there. Seems
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  like the right place to go if you're in barrel
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  racing. It was an experience for all of us. And
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  I will tell you, I got to relive my college years
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  through her college years. We had an absolute
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  blast. since graduated and gotten married and
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  moved to Oklahoma with her with her spouse. My
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  son is currently in his senior year of baseball.
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  My husband hates when I say this, but people
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  will say what is your son majoring in and I'll
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  say baseball. It's what he loves. It's what he's
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  doing. It's his passion and giving them the opportunity
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  to get lost in both of those things was a real
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  gift for us. For sure. Yeah. Does he have an
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  idea of what he wants to do once he finishes
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  his senior year? Because I think yeah, I think
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  he has a little entrepreneurial spirit. You know,
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  I think that when we sit around the dinner table,
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  we talk about business and we talk about ideas
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  and we talk about. psychology and relationships
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  and how all of this forms the way that you kind
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  of move through life. So I anticipate he'll end
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  up in some type of business. He's right now it's
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  business entrepreneurship is his major. Okay.
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  And so yeah, he'll go down the same road. Well,
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  I think I think it's interesting. I think a lot
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  of times you'll see collegiate athletes end up
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  being either salespeople or entrepreneurs. Because
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  there's something I think that they've learned
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  in that about building relationships beyond their
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  immediate family. And really close bonds of relationships.
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  And those both can be beneficial for what those
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  long -term relationships are with those individuals
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  or people they meet along that, but also the
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  ability and skills to build close relationships.
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  because as you know being an entrepreneur like
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  you have to build relationships it doesn't work
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  if you aren't able to effectively build relationships.
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  I completely agree and I think that it's it's
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  about um there's there's a game plan behind it
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  too. I heard somebody say you know there's a
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  lot of sports um and baseball is a game. they
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  were saying how they thought that baseball wasn't
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  a sport and it was a game and I thought oh that's
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  really intriguing because I think business is
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  a game sure and so I think every morning when
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  I wake up I'm going what's my game plan what
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  am I going to do today who do I need to meet
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  who have I met in the past that I haven't connected
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  with most recently so keeping those relationships
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  alive building on those ideas it's like constantly
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  meeting with people and going, what are you doing
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  in your business that I'm not implying in my
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  business? Right. And so I do I think that I think
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  relationships are incredibly important and making
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  that maybe top priority, you know, and for me,
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  I'm a people person, I love to just chat with
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  people and dig into what there's what what is
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  going on in their psychology? What are you guys
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  doing? What's creative that you're creating that?
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  I didn't think of and how am I going to take
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  that and morph it into what it looks like in
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  my business. I meet with a lot of people that
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  are in very diverse businesses. So I don't know
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  anybody locally that does the same thing that
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  I do. However, I have a lot of really great business
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  best friends that we play off of each other.
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  And so after this, I'm heading to a meeting about
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  what are we gonna do for the next four months
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  and how are we gonna hold ourselves accountable
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  and having those relationships is important in
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  entrepreneurship. For sure. And one of the things
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  that I think you said that I wanna dig in just
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  a little bit more is the way in which you described
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  building those relationships because I think
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  it's best done when it springs from a genuine
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  interest. And what those things are that you're
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  asking about. Because if you're just asking just
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  to check a box so that you can find out what
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  they can do for you, that's like disaster. It
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  doesn't work. And I think being an entrepreneur,
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  if you're not authentic, my most valuable asset
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  that I have is my time. So even though I spend
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  most of my time on my business, Having those
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  relationships that are authentic and real and
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  a give and a take are Far more important than
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  just a really quick. Hey, what are you doing?
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  You know, it's it's really diving in and going
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  What changed you what what did you do last year
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  that you are eliminating this year? So just getting
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  really deep when you are getting into those relationships.
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  For sure. Yeah. So you stay at home, mom, for
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  quite a while. You decide to take on this new
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  challenge. You shape it around a decision to
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  make sure that you can have freedom and flexibility
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  of your time. What does it look like when you're
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  actually starting it then? What did it feel like
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  emotionally when you're starting it? And what
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  were the practical steps you took? So when I
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  did this, I really went into it with the mindset
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  of, hey, I have these two really great kids.
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  I did pretty good. What if I just ran a business
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  the same way that I ran my family? And so the
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  idea was just keep doing what I am already doing,
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  just apply it in a different way. So I do think
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  that... Being a stay -at -home mom, being a parent,
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  being a stay -at -home father, being all of those
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  things, you're running a business. I don't think
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  that there's much difference between, well, other
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  than the emotion of your kids, but you've got
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  the emotion of your employees, right? I don't
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  see much difference in what I've applied to my
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  business as to what I applied during that time
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  frame of raising a family. Which I think is really
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  interesting. One of the things that I think Really
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  helps for anybody who's a stay -at -home parent
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  is my experience with stay -at -home parents
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  is most the time they're doing it for the right
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  reason Yes, so their their why or their purpose
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  is really locked in they understand the import
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  of the Responsibility it is to be a parent. You
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  know what it is that you're doing as a parent
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  Why you would want to spend this time with these
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  kids what it is you're trying to do? Beyond yourself
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  and when you can take that same beyond yourself
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  mentality, that greater purpose mentality to
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  a business endeavor, then you're able to be more
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  purpose driven and successful because you can
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  carry that forward. And I had never thought about
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  it in that way until you just said that. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And I think there's so many skills that
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  go hand in hand with it. It's like the patience
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  of, you know, your kid does something and you
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  go. That's not the hill that I'm going to die
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  on. So I'm going to let that go. I'm going to
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  let them be the CEO of their own life. And I
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  think that that's the same way as dealing with
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  a client. I think it's the same way as dealing
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  with an employee or a business partner or a referral
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  partner or even, you know, somebody who's helping
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  you build your business. I think it's all just
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  making sure that you're in alignment with the
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  greater picture. We're going to roll this into
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  kind of Beauty and the Beast a little bit. I'm
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  going to work through your story a little bit
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  more. Yeah. I've written down a few quotes that
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  I want to get your take on as we go. OK, let's
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  do it. Beauty and the Beast kind of starts with
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  this underlying kind of narrator who's talking
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  about this prince in a castle, right? Yep. And
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  this old, you know, lady, this haggard lady shows
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  up with a rose and is wanting to have, you know,
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  safety and protection from this horrible storm
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  that's happening outside. Yes. And she just basically
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  says she'll give him this rose if he'll let her
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  in, right? And he turns her away. And then the
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  narrator says this line that I want to get your
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  take on. She warned him not to be deceived by
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  appearances for beauty is found within. So that
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  kind of frames up this whole story, right? Totally
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  frames up. She warned him not to be deceived
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  by appearances for beauty is found within. So
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  tell me about what that overall means to you.
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  First off of the story, but more importantly
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  for a decision to leave comfort and start something
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  new. It actually makes me a little bit choked
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  up. So give me a second to just... Catch my breath
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  Don't ever underestimate anybody sure like Everybody
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  you know Everybody is there for the purpose of
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  the good and had had he Accepted her and all
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  of her beauty even though she didn't look like
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  what she was delivering If I remember correctly
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  it was like with this rose, he got all of this
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  greatness. And I mean, he already was a prince
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  and had all of these wonderful things. But it
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  could have really escalated into something more.
• 19:53
  It's, it's almost a double edged sword, because
• 19:55
  then I also think, did he have to go through
• 19:58
  what he had to go through to become the person
• 20:00
  that he was? And so I think there's really two
• 20:04
  ways to look at it. And it's like, don't ever
• 20:06
  underestimate somebody. And also accept the journey
• 20:10
  that you've been given. That is so insightful
• 20:13
  because I think it's exactly right. If he didn't
• 20:16
  know it when she was there initially, which he
• 20:19
  didn't, then she was giving him the journey to
• 20:22
  go on so he could learn it. Because that's exactly
• 20:25
  what he had to learn. Yes. Because he didn't
• 20:27
  appreciate it. He didn't appreciate that beauty
• 20:29
  comes from within. And so he had to experience
• 20:32
  that firsthand. She was actually teaching him.
• 20:34
  I didn't think about it that way. Yeah. that
• 20:37
  really that was that was the gift to him. That
• 20:39
  was his true gift. Even though I'm sure it didn't
• 20:42
  feel like it initially, right? His greatest accomplishment.
• 20:46
  And I think that we can both agree in starting
• 20:49
  a business and owning a business. There are those
• 20:52
  really gory, ugly parts that you think, I'm not
• 20:57
  going to make it through this. And then when
• 20:59
  you do you go, I'm so much better that I got
• 21:03
  that opportunity. to have that really horrible
• 21:05
  thing happen. And I'm so grateful that I had
• 21:09
  that presented to me in a really surprising manner.
• 21:15
  And so I think that all of that, you get these
• 21:18
  little surprises throughout life and the way
• 21:20
  that you handle them and the way that you move
• 21:23
  through them. I hope I'm not like the beast.
• 21:24
  I hope it doesn't take me years and flowers dropping,
• 21:28
  but. but sometimes it does and maybe a beautiful
• 21:31
  girl needs to walk into my life and let me know
• 21:34
  like hey you're beautiful too and and it's about
• 21:37
  what's on the inside and and choose love you
• 21:40
  know i think that those are really great messages
• 21:43
  for sure what what fears showed up for you when
• 21:47
  you were first thinking about this change and
• 21:49
  then starting this change to this new business
• 21:52
  you were doing oh all of them imposter syndrome
• 21:54
  to a T, I deal with it every single day. I think
• 21:58
  every time I walk into a room of really intellectual
• 22:02
  people and business minded individuals who have
• 22:06
  been in the industry for 30 years. And here I
• 22:09
  come in, you know, and I'm just excited and,
• 22:15
  and, you know, naive. And so I just do things
• 22:22
  without thinking. And I think, I'm not sure what
• 22:25
  the question was, but it just led me to this
• 22:28
  idea of I think it's okay to just go and just
• 22:33
  do. Yeah. Yeah. Fears hold us back from a lot
• 22:36
  of things. Yes. And the fear of that step and
• 22:40
  the fear of failure many times holds people back.
• 22:43
  Did it take you a while to overcome that fear?
• 22:47
  Or once you decided, did it just kind of, you
• 22:49
  just went? I think I overcome it every day. So
• 22:53
  I think it depends on the situation. I think
• 22:56
  that there's an event that you'll attend and
• 22:59
  you'll feel inadequate. I think that there's
• 23:02
  an event that you'll attend and you'll feel like
• 23:05
  the expert. And I think there is a scene in Beauty
• 23:10
  and the Beast where she says, step out of the
• 23:12
  shadow. And she wants to see. Who is her capture?
• 23:17
  Yeah, and it's like she sees him and at first
• 23:20
  she's really taken it back and then it's like
• 23:22
  she has kind of this softness that overcomes
• 23:25
  her and goes Well now that I faced you it's not
• 23:28
  too bad Yeah when it comes to fear and especially
• 23:34
  as you were taking it the the step to start a
• 23:37
  business mm -hmm was your fear a fear of failure
• 23:41
  or was it more of a fear of Judgment from others.
• 23:47
  I'm so embarrassed for this answer. Judgment
• 23:50
  of others. Don't be embarrassed by that at all.
• 23:52
  We are all thinking about judgment of others
• 23:55
  all the time. We all do. It's totally human.
• 23:57
  Judgment of others. I want to appear that I have
• 24:03
  it all together, and sometimes I'm just riding
• 24:08
  the wind. It's like, this is where this is taking
• 24:11
  me and I'm just gonna do it. As far as fear goes,
• 24:15
  I think that fear can be a little bit fun. It
• 24:20
  can be really great, right? And I think it's
• 24:22
  a good learning opportunity for all of us to
• 24:26
  find that part of us that goes, gosh, I did this
• 24:29
  really scary thing and it was not scary at all.
• 24:33
  And I overcame it and gosh, what a funny story
• 24:37
  to tell. What a fun story for me to go. I had
• 24:41
  this horrible thing happen. I was afraid I kicked
• 24:44
  the can down the road for three months. I Didn't
• 24:48
  follow through on my commitments. I self -sabotaged
• 24:50
  I did all of these things to make sure that I
• 24:53
  didn't have to face the beast coming out of the
• 24:55
  shadow But then it's like you see it and you
• 24:59
  go, huh? Well, that was really Not not at all
• 25:03
  was I was expecting so I think many times the
• 25:07
  fear that we have we tell ourselves The worst
• 25:10
  possible case scenario and one that might not
• 25:13
  even actually possible right that we just convince
• 25:16
  ourselves Is what might happen that then holds
• 25:19
  us back? Yeah, but I think to your point if if
• 25:23
  we can accept that we will have fear Mm -hmm,
• 25:26
  and that that's not a bad thing and then take
• 25:29
  those opportunities to face that fear, it can
• 25:32
  lead to something really great. It can lead to
• 25:34
  growth, obviously, and it can lead to new adventures
• 25:38
  that we otherwise wouldn't do. It's so interesting
• 25:40
  when I think about that in the context of rides
• 25:43
  at Disneyland, okay? My kids are just the best,
• 25:47
  and we love going to Disneyland and Disney World,
• 25:50
  and each kid kind of goes through these phases
• 25:53
  of being scared of certain rides, right? My 13
• 25:56
  -year -old son, very conservative in his willingness
• 26:02
  to try new things. He is the pickiest eater that
• 26:06
  I know. For a long time, like a lot of the rides
• 26:09
  he didn't like, like Pirates of the Caribbean.
• 26:13
  Because there's a drop. And it's not even that
• 26:16
  big. But it's dark. But it's dark, and there's
• 26:18
  a drop, and it kind of gives you a little...
• 26:20
  And it's ominous. Yeah, and it gives you a little
• 26:21
  feeling in your tummy. And there's some music.
• 26:23
  So he didn't like it. Even when he was like 10
• 26:25
  and 11 and 12, didn't like it. I'm like, this
• 26:27
  is not that scary of a ride. So then his sister,
• 26:31
  who's 10, and at the time it was first trend
• 26:34
  that she was eight, barely tall enough to go
• 26:36
  on the Incredicoaster. You know what the Incredicoaster
• 26:38
  is, right? It's the roller coaster, right? With
• 26:39
  the loop. She's like, yeah, I want to go on it.
• 26:41
  And he's like, wait. My little sister's going,
• 26:43
  she's three years younger than me. My little
• 26:45
  sister's going on it? Like, hold on. And so he's
• 26:47
  had this fear for a long time, and because she
• 26:51
  was willing to, she empowered him to, a little
• 26:54
  bit of that fear of judgment, to be honest. Like,
• 26:56
  I can't have her do it, not me, what's everyone
• 26:58
  gonna think? But then does it. Yeah. And now
• 27:01
  it's his favorite ride. It's his favorite ride.
• 27:03
  For a kid that didn't even like pirates because
• 27:04
  it had a little bit of a drop, now he can do
• 27:06
  the Incredicoaster. And it's like he grew two
• 27:08
  feet that day on shore. Yes, absolutely. And
• 27:11
  realized like, okay, I overcame that fear and
• 27:14
  I actually got to experience what now is my favorite
• 27:17
  ride. That I was holding myself back from experiencing
• 27:20
  because I wasn't going to. And sometimes, I'm
• 27:22
  kind of thinking out loud with you, sometimes
• 27:23
  it does take that encouragement from somebody
• 27:25
  else. I was just going to circle back to that
• 27:27
  and say... that's where those important relationships
• 27:30
  come into play. Because you can call that friend
• 27:33
  and say, okay, I'm doing this. And can I call
• 27:40
  you when I'm done? Because I'm not sure I'm gonna,
• 27:42
  I'm not sure I'm gonna nail it. I don't know
• 27:44
  what's gonna happen. And to hear them be your
• 27:47
  hype person and go. you've got this you have
• 27:50
  done this this way you've done this this way
• 27:52
  and you've exercised this this way and you implemented
• 27:55
  this in your business and look at where you were
• 27:57
  last year at this time and then you hang up the
• 27:59
  phone and you go okay i have all the courage
• 28:02
  in the world but i had to borrow it from my friend
• 28:04
  yeah and that's the beauty of of having people
• 28:10
  that we have a sense of belonging with yes it's
• 28:13
  something we all need yeah i talk about this
• 28:15
  a lot where there's there's kind of these four
• 28:17
  core human needs, and one of them is a sense
• 28:19
  of belonging. We all need it. Even if we're introverts,
• 28:22
  we still need a sense of belonging. We just do,
• 28:25
  and when you have that, you can draw on that
• 28:28
  strength. Okay, so another quote. It's gonna
• 28:30
  be very similar, but I like it because it's like
• 28:33
  one of the funny, corny, like, dad jokes that's
• 28:36
  in the show, but it fits, okay? So you remember
• 28:38
  Cogsworth, right? He has a little clock, and
• 28:41
  he's making a... He's making a joke, right? And
• 28:44
  his joke is, if it's not Baroque, don't fix it.
• 28:48
  In other words, if it's not Baroque, don't fix
• 28:50
  it, but Baroque being the joke that he was playing
• 28:52
  off of. And so with that, how does that fit into
• 28:56
  this idea of the comfort trap that sometimes
• 28:58
  people fall into? If it's not Baroque, don't
• 29:00
  fix it. I almost wonder, are we ever really done?
• 29:07
  Are we ever really done? with everything. There's
• 29:14
  always an opportunity to fix it. There's always
• 29:17
  an opportunity to revisit it because the person
• 29:22
  that you are when you start your business is
• 29:24
  not the person that you are when you're five
• 29:26
  years in. And so it may not be broke, but there
• 29:32
  might be a newer, fresher style coming around
• 29:35
  the corner. You know, there's that Renaissance
• 29:38
  of we're not. We're no longer in the broke period.
• 29:41
  So I think that there's always an opportunity
• 29:45
  to readdress everything in your business. And
• 29:49
  you're not going to do it all the time. It's
• 29:51
  you're not going to readdress every single thing.
• 29:53
  You would drive yourself mad. But there's always
• 29:58
  an opportunity to revisit and grow and adjust.
• 30:02
  Yeah. Yeah. I think this fits perfectly in line
• 30:05
  with a quote I've used in the past on this podcast,
• 30:08
  but when I was kind of going through this, it
• 30:10
  just came up naturally, which is by Brené Brown,
• 30:13
  who we both adore. You can choose courage or
• 30:16
  you can choose comfort, but you cannot have both.
• 30:20
  100%. Because if we're going to try to fix something
• 30:23
  or change something or do something, there is
• 30:25
  courage that it takes. It took courage for you
• 30:28
  to say, I'm not going to be a stay at home mom
• 30:30
  anymore. I'm going to do something. Not only
• 30:32
  am I going to do something, I'm going to do something
• 30:34
  a lot of people wouldn't do because it's really
• 30:35
  scary, which is I'm going to start a business.
• 30:37
  I'm going to go out there and start a business.
• 30:39
  It's all on me. I got to go figure the whole
• 30:41
  thing out. I have no steady paycheck to rely
• 30:44
  on. I have no employer to rely on. It's all on
• 30:47
  me. And that takes a great amount of courage.
• 30:51
  So you take this chance, this opportunity, and
• 30:55
  obviously it takes a ton of courage to do. How
• 30:59
  did it end up playing out and say the first year
• 31:01
  that you did it? What challenges did you face?
• 31:04
  Do you know, I think because of how naive I was
• 31:07
  in starting the business, I didn't have many
• 31:10
  challenges the first year. I think it was the
• 31:12
  second year when I really started to look at
• 31:15
  myself and go, okay, this isn't just about fun
• 31:18
  and learning anymore. I'm a real advocate of
• 31:20
  self growth and development. And so that first
• 31:23
  year I was just literally let's just throw whatever
• 31:26
  to the wall and let's see what sticks. Let's
• 31:29
  try this. Let's try that. Let's learn this thing.
• 31:32
  Let's go to this class. Let's get this education.
• 31:36
  And it was all about fun. And it was all about
• 31:39
  the journey. And it was all about building. And
• 31:41
  it was all about just me developing a different
• 31:45
  side of myself that I didn't. develop for a little
• 31:48
  bit. And like I said, I do believe that parenting
• 31:50
  is running a business. Building a family is running
• 31:53
  a business. And at the same time, that first
• 31:56
  year was just it was just a party. And then it
• 31:59
  was the second year that I went, Oh, this could
• 32:03
  be real. I I could actually be really successful
• 32:06
  at this and I could make something out of this
• 32:09
  and I could maybe have a little bit of legacy
• 32:12
  that I leave behind and and so I kind of went
• 32:16
  into that phase or chapter if you will and then
• 32:20
  it kind of turned into oh my gosh people are
• 32:23
  noticing me I don't like that I'm going to retreat
• 32:28
  and kind of hide a little bit fear of judgment
• 32:32
  of others right nobody was saying that I was
• 32:34
  doing it wrong nobody was saying that it wasn't
• 32:36
  the fastest way there. Nobody had any judgment
• 32:39
  upon me, but all of a sudden I went, did I waste
• 32:43
  a full year of my time? And now I look back and
• 32:46
  I go, it's my personality. If it's not fun, I'm
• 32:50
  not going to do it. And so it has to be fun.
• 32:53
  It has to be something that I enjoy. It has to
• 32:56
  bring me growth. It has to bring curiosity out
• 32:58
  of me. And so I think it wasn't until that second
• 33:02
  year that I started to go, oh, this is a serious
• 33:05
  thing. And now that I'm in my third year, I'm
• 33:08
  going, not only is this a serious thing, this
• 33:11
  is a fun thing. And so it's been the combination
• 33:14
  of that first year and that second year that's
• 33:17
  now gotten me to this this third year and now
• 33:19
  almost my fourth year. So this is like this is
• 33:23
  so good. So there's a really famous author, public
• 33:28
  speaker. She's a professor. I think it's Stanford
• 33:31
  currently, Angela Duckworth. Okay, I've not heard
• 33:33
  of her. She wrote a book called Grit. Okay. And
• 33:35
  she also did a TED Talk by the same name, Grit.
• 33:38
  So she did TED Talk first, then she wrote the
• 33:40
  book afterwards. And in it, she wrote, enthusiasm
• 33:45
  is common, endurance is rare. Yes. I mean, that
• 33:50
  fits so perfectly with what you're talking about.
• 33:52
  I love that. Right? Because... when you're starting
• 33:55
  a new adventure, once you overcome that initial
• 33:56
  fear, you do have some enthusiasm about it. That's
• 33:59
  why you're doing it. Hey, this is pretty exciting,
• 34:01
  this is new, I'm gonna try this thing, I'm gonna
• 34:03
  try that thing. What then separates, and this
• 34:07
  is the argument Dr. Duckworth makes in her book,
• 34:09
  what separates then those who are high achievers
• 34:11
  versus not is the ability to endure past where
• 34:15
  that enthusiasm starts to wane a little bit because
• 34:17
  sometimes things get hard. And when things get
• 34:20
  hard, if you can persevere, through those then
• 34:24
  that can take you to success whereas a lot of
• 34:26
  people take that opportunity then hit a wall
• 34:29
  and they quit they stop doing it they go do something
• 34:31
  else because they can't push through that initial
• 34:34
  enthusiasm bump so what got you past that initial
• 34:38
  like okay you've got enthusiasm for it In your
• 34:41
  second and in your third year, you still want
• 34:43
  to be fun But that enthusiasm kind of wall sounds
• 34:46
  like you kind of hit what what changed? What
• 34:48
  did you do to say? Okay, that happened. That's
• 34:52
  kind of worn off. I'm gonna keep going. What
• 34:54
  kept you going? Community, okay. Yeah, tell me
• 34:57
  more surrounding myself with like -minded people
• 35:01
  putting myself in a position where when I can't
• 35:04
  pull myself through I have somebody I can rely
• 35:07
  on and it's somebody Um again, it makes me emotional.
• 35:11
  Oh my gosh. I'm pretty teary today I have an
• 35:14
  incredible group of people who believe in me
• 35:16
  more than I believe in myself It makes such a
• 35:19
  difference. It does and I think we don't fully
• 35:22
  appreciate what that can mean For us until we're
• 35:29
  in it. Yeah, but also what influence we can have
• 35:31
  on others if we're that for somebody else, too
• 35:34
  Yes And i'm not letting any of those people down,
• 35:37
  right? If they're my biggest fan, I'm going to
• 35:41
  show up for them. I'm going to give them the
• 35:43
  best show that I can give them. I'm going to
• 35:45
  play the best game that I can play. I'm going
• 35:47
  to give everything that I've got because I don't
• 35:50
  want to go back to them and say, thank you so
• 35:53
  much for cheering me on. I just decided this
• 35:56
  wasn't for me. I'm not going to do that. That
• 35:59
  doesn't work. So yeah, I think community is really,
• 36:03
  really important. Something we both have in common
• 36:07
  is we both participate in a Chamber of Commerce.
• 36:09
  We're both pretty involved in the South Valley
• 36:11
  Chamber of Commerce. What role has that played
• 36:15
  in you for helping you to build relationships
• 36:16
  and build community? Oh my gosh, the education
• 36:19
  piece that I have gotten from that community
• 36:21
  in and of itself, they push me. They put me on
• 36:27
  a panel. They do these things that take me out
• 36:29
  of my comfort zone. They introduce me to Ryan
• 36:32
  at RCG Law and says, come be on my podcast. And
• 36:35
  I go, I don't know. I can't breathe. What am
• 36:38
  I going to do? So I think it puts me in situations
• 36:43
  that I otherwise would not have been able to
• 36:45
  have the opportunity to show up in. and subscribe
• 36:56
  to our show, it helps us reach more people like
• 36:59
  you. We can design and create and build the most
• 37:03
  wonderful place in the world, but it takes people
• 37:05
  to make the dream a reality. You know, historically,
• 37:10
  when I started practicing law, the first firm
• 37:13
  that I started working for was a very entrepreneurial
• 37:15
  firm, for sure, and would encourage me to do
• 37:18
  things that were networking. But the really only
• 37:21
  thing that that was was BNI. And be nice fine.
• 37:25
  It's great. And for some people who can yeah,
• 37:28
  just really embrace it. It's great Yeah, I still
• 37:30
  have not found a love for it for me. I always
• 37:35
  just felt like Everyone's being forced to use
• 37:38
  the other people in the group and what if somebody
• 37:40
  stinks, right? What if somebody's not very good
• 37:42
  or you know, I so I just like had this stuff
• 37:44
  kind of holding me back I think we're both entrepreneurs,
• 37:49
  so we don't want to be told what to do. That's
• 37:50
  exactly right. We chose to be the boss. I want
• 37:53
  to give a referral to somebody because I believe
• 37:54
  in them, not because they happen to pay a fee
• 37:56
  and show up in this group every week. And I don't
• 37:59
  want an assignment. My business is my assignment
• 38:01
  and I can't take on any more tasks. And so it's
• 38:04
  so, but yet, I'm going to say not but, and, we
• 38:11
  both have assignments with South Valley Chamber.
• 38:14
  Right? It's a service. I think that's exactly
• 38:16
  right. See, I don't want to be a B &I bachelor
• 38:19
  because for some people it works so well and
• 38:21
  they can embrace it and it's great. Just for
• 38:24
  me, it hasn't. But I think you're right. In the
• 38:27
  South By Chamber, it's just an opportunity to
• 38:28
  serve that I've been provided. It is. And what's
• 38:30
  the difference for you with that? It's absolutely
• 38:32
  that. So in the other group, it's a situation
• 38:36
  where it feels like a task. And it's like, hey,
• 38:38
  I don't need any more assignments. But if I'm
• 38:40
  going to serve my fellow entrepreneur or my fellow
• 38:44
  business owner or somebody who's even an employee
• 38:48
  who's building a business for somebody else,
• 38:51
  if I can provide something, a relationship, a
• 38:55
  tool, a referral, an opportunity, To me, man,
• 39:00
  that just fills my heart. That inflates me all
• 39:04
  day long, and I just have nothing to learn but
• 39:07
  by giving. Yeah. Yeah. And initially, for me,
• 39:12
  when I joined the South By Chamber, I took the
• 39:14
  Business Accelerator class, which is where we
• 39:15
  met. Same, yeah. But then I was just like, OK.
• 39:18
  I mean, I went, that's fine. It's OK, I got it.
• 39:22
  And I wasn't involved. What I found is when I
• 39:27
  could like embrace it and say okay there's actually
• 39:31
  something more here because I mean now for the
• 39:34
  last six months I've got a business partner here
• 39:37
  so Joey Carlson has come on but prior that it
• 39:40
  was just me and so when it's just you it's just
• 39:42
  all on your shoulders and there's there's so
• 39:44
  much more weight to it and I joined some yes
• 39:47
  other mastermind groups with like family law
• 39:50
  attorneys across the country which was great
• 39:52
  learned a lot from them invaluable but I didn't
• 39:55
  have people here And I'm kind of a social person.
• 39:59
  And I realized I'm passing up all these opportunities
• 40:02
  to be involved in something where I can go and
• 40:05
  socialize without it having to feel like it's
• 40:08
  just people wanting something from me. And when
• 40:10
  I started to go more to some of the events and
• 40:13
  some of those things, I realized that there was
• 40:15
  a lot of people. like me in that regard. I'm
• 40:18
  not there just so I can go get some referrals
• 40:21
  for my firm. I'm there because I can learn from
• 40:23
  them. I can learn about their businesses. And
• 40:25
  if I happen to come across somebody that can
• 40:27
  use their businesses, great. But also if I can
• 40:29
  share some experience with them about, you know,
• 40:31
  that I've learned. So they don't have to learn
• 40:33
  that the hard way. Or they can do the same for
• 40:35
  me. started realizing the value of community
• 40:38
  like you said right the value of belonging to
• 40:41
  a group of people who really are just trying
• 40:43
  to do the right thing out there and they are
• 40:45
  and I think that there's a level in me where
• 40:47
  it's that stay at home mom. I'm a nurturer. I
• 40:51
  love to just go in and support somebody and be
• 40:56
  a part of something. We had an event just the
• 40:59
  other night with some young entrepreneurs who
• 41:02
  had an opportunity to present some business plans
• 41:05
  and to listen to them was so incredibly inspiring.
• 41:09
  I went home that night and I readdressed my own
• 41:12
  business plan and the feeling that I got to look
• 41:17
  them in the eye and go You have a brilliant idea
• 41:20
  and what you have inside of you is needed out
• 41:24
  there in the world and don't quit Keep going
• 41:26
  keep doing like live that part of you, you know,
• 41:31
  I just to me Man, that just fills my cup for
• 41:34
  sure. And when when our cup is filled We can
• 41:38
  be the the best version of ourselves. Yes, you
• 41:41
  know, it's interesting after I you were a judge
• 41:45
  in that event, which was amazing I was just there
• 41:48
  as an attendee. Afterwards, I talked with a few
• 41:50
  of the participants, and one of them in particular
• 41:53
  had received a compliment from you during her
• 41:56
  presentation, and she was just beaming about
• 41:59
  it. And it just reinforced for me the impact
• 42:03
  that we can have on others when we'll recognize
• 42:05
  them, when we'll give them that encouragement,
• 42:08
  when we'll give them a sincere and genuine compliment,
• 42:11
  that it gives them that strength to do more and
• 42:15
  to... Go higher than they would otherwise again.
• 42:18
  That's just kind of the value of that community,
• 42:20
  right? Yeah, so Okay, i'm gonna take us back
• 42:23
  to beating the beast real quick here. So a couple
• 42:26
  of a couple of different things and angles I
• 42:28
  think we can take here on this topic with beating
• 42:30
  the beast is first with marice bell's dad. Yeah,
• 42:33
  okay Yes, so tell me about bell's dad when it
• 42:36
  comes to this idea of like trying something new
• 42:39
  and not having the fear to do it How does that
• 42:42
  apply to marice? He he might I don't know, I
• 42:46
  have so many favorite characters in this movie.
• 42:48
  They have so many, I don't know who the writers
• 42:51
  were, but man, they nailed it. Maurice is so
• 42:55
  fun. I mean, he's curious, and he's interested,
• 43:00
  and he thinks outside the box, and he's got these
• 43:04
  great ideas, and he's going, oh, I don't know,
• 43:06
  it doesn't work, and then at the last minute,
• 43:09
  it's like, it worked, it worked, I'm going, I'm
• 43:11
  going to the show, I'm going right now, and then
• 43:14
  he runs off, and it's like the excitement that
• 43:16
  he has, and I think every entrepreneur has Maurice
• 43:21
  in him. Sure, you have to. Yeah, you have to.
• 43:24
  To try new things, and... What's so interesting
• 43:27
  too about I think the relationship between him
• 43:29
  and Belle is when we look at Belle's willingness
• 43:33
  to not worry about the judgment of others. Right.
• 43:37
  Think that comes from her dad very clearly. Yeah,
• 43:40
  cuz he was unafraid of that Oh my gosh, and that
• 43:42
  whole town just devoured his curiosity like they
• 43:46
  just looked at him like what a kook Yeah, I guess
• 43:49
  I was a crazy old Maurice, right? Like off he
• 43:54
  goes again like you know, and so and then his
• 43:57
  poor daughter that you know She doesn't have
• 43:59
  this father figure that is traditional and and
• 44:02
  teaching her the way of the world and it's like
• 44:04
  she got the best education that she could by
• 44:06
  his Curiosity for sure. Yeah, and and I think
• 44:09
  in part two why we could probably say that led
• 44:11
  to her curiosity of of story and books and reading
• 44:16
  because she had this hunger for you know thinking
• 44:20
  about things differently and reading these stories
• 44:22
  and I mean and it's like again the writers did
• 44:25
  this intentionally obviously, but when Gaston
• 44:28
  is first trying to approach her right and she's
• 44:30
  got the book and he's like what are you doing
• 44:32
  reading and thinking like what are you doing
• 44:36
  yes you're too beautiful yeah thinking yeah right
• 44:39
  whereas like for her it's like yeah that's what
• 44:41
  everybody should do and i know that because i've
• 44:44
  got a father who's instilled that love for learning
• 44:46
  and curiosity in me Which I think is really interesting.
• 44:49
  It kind of sets the stage for what her journey
• 44:51
  is. Total side note, but one of my favorite lines
• 44:54
  from Beating the Beast is he says, you know,
• 44:58
  and we'll have... strapping young men, six perhaps.
• 45:02
  And she goes, dogs? You know, and it's just like
• 45:06
  her ability to go, life is more fun than just,
• 45:10
  you know, strapping young men and doing things
• 45:13
  right. And let's just play with puppies and let's
• 45:15
  have fun. I mean, I really, it's one of my favorite
• 45:18
  lines. Yeah. Yeah. And it's so great too that
• 45:22
  she's just like, not interested in him. Not even
• 45:25
  in the least. You know, she sees well beyond,
• 45:28
  right? Not only is you sometimes have to ignore
• 45:33
  the appearance outside to understand the beauty
• 45:35
  within Beauty without can deceive from the lack
• 45:38
  of beauty with that from within which I think
• 45:41
  is what we see in Gaston, right? Maybe not a
• 45:44
  lot of substance there obviously a lot of substance.
• 45:46
  Yeah, and and clearly doesn't really appreciate
• 45:50
  what the value of a partner Really right, right.
• 45:54
  It's just hey, we'll make beautiful babies. Yeah,
• 45:57
  let's do that, you know, but The his charisma
• 46:01
  and character is also undeniable because he has
• 46:04
  all these other women that are wooing him as
• 46:06
  well Yeah, so it's like there's somebody out
• 46:08
  there for everybody. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, it is
• 46:11
  interesting There's obviously a lot of things
• 46:12
  that he does wrong But there are some things
• 46:15
  that he doesn't do that are terrible, right?
• 46:18
  Like he sees this beast right this Rally's the
• 46:22
  town. Yeah, like well, we got to protect the
• 46:24
  people from this horrible beast. Yeah Misguided
• 46:27
  and obviously we we know because we know the
• 46:29
  ending that he wasn't really a beast at all He's
• 46:31
  this prince and this need to have this curse
• 46:33
  lifted But uh, there are there are a few redeeming
• 46:36
  qualities for Gaston always there isn't every
• 46:39
  one of us, right? Yeah, it's yeah It is interesting
• 46:41
  when you think about Disney villains where sometimes
• 46:44
  you can see those now There's other ones where
• 46:46
  they're not it was interesting I was having this
• 46:48
  discussion with some of the other day about some
• 46:50
  other Disney villains and but a lot of them do
• 46:54
  like Hades You know, like it's his job. It's
• 46:58
  what he does. He's supposed to be, you know,
• 47:00
  he's the god Hades. He's supposed to do the things
• 47:02
  that he is. He wants to capture Hercules and
• 47:05
  it's kind of his job. But he's also like pretty
• 47:07
  funny, you know, hysterical, very entertaining
• 47:09
  villain. One that doesn't, though, is the bad
• 47:13
  guy in Mulan. Oh, like he he's the Hun. Yeah.
• 47:19
  I mean, he is just like there's nothing. They
• 47:21
  wrote that in a way that there's really nothing
• 47:23
  redeeming for him. He's there to conquer China.
• 47:26
  That's all he wants to do is take him over. He's
• 47:28
  just like purely the bad guy through and through,
• 47:31
  which is a little bit out of the norm for what
• 47:34
  Disney usually has. They usually have some redeeming
• 47:36
  qualities in these villains, but in that particular
• 47:38
  one, I couldn't really see any. Maybe tradition?
• 47:41
  Maybe. Maybe he's got tradition. I mean, I guess
• 47:44
  he turned to buck tradition, though, right? He
• 47:45
  wants to overthrow the emperor of China. He wants
• 47:47
  to conquer all of China. He certainly, I mean,
• 47:51
  I guess. He leads his people with passion and
• 47:55
  they follow him. Which could be terrifying. Wicked
• 47:58
  leaders can do. Wicked leaders certainly can
• 48:00
  do. We've seen that happen and it doesn't always
• 48:02
  turn out well. It does not. It can definitely
• 48:04
  be bad. So when we look at this continued journey,
• 48:09
  Maurice ends up trying to go to the fair, something
• 48:12
  like that, with his discovery and he ends up
• 48:14
  getting lost and coming upon this castle and
• 48:16
  obviously gets captured by the beast and then
• 48:19
  Belle's got to go save him. What do you think
• 48:23
  that she's facing in those moments of what might
• 48:28
  hold her back from doing it, why she decides
• 48:30
  to go do it, and then why she decides to make
• 48:32
  the deal that she makes to stay there and trade
• 48:34
  her life for her dad's? Gosh, it's such a great
• 48:38
  question. Three parts. So what what holds her
• 48:43
  back in the initial decision? Like is there anything
• 48:45
  that would what would the fear be that would
• 48:47
  hold somebody back? And what courage does she
• 48:49
  have to find to go and then to trade herself?
• 48:52
  I think I think the courage to know that he's
• 48:56
  safe and you know, he isn't alone and I think
• 49:02
  that with the compassion that she holds for people
• 49:06
  just shows in the entire show that she's just
• 49:10
  incredibly compassionate and accepts people for
• 49:12
  who they are. And the thought of her dad being
• 49:15
  alone out wherever and not having an answer as
• 49:19
  to what happened to him is maybe what drove the
• 49:22
  courage. Gosh, you know, I think she's just courageous.
• 49:26
  For sure she is. Yeah, I think she's just like,
• 49:30
  why wouldn't I do this? Yeah, why wouldn't I
• 49:33
  do this? And I think also why why would she not
• 49:36
  just go do it herself? I think she in those moments
• 49:40
  obviously knows that Gaston and many other villagers
• 49:44
  don't think a lot of her dad. They're not gonna
• 49:46
  believe that he's really in trouble, right? So
• 49:48
  she doesn't spend the time or waste the time
• 49:50
  to go try to convince them to help her. She's
• 49:51
  like, well, look. If this is where we're at,
• 49:53
  I'm just gonna take the step. I'm just gonna
• 49:54
  go find myself. I can do it. I'm not gonna be
• 49:57
  afraid to do it. And then obviously I think it's
• 49:59
  probably an easy choice for anybody to trade
• 50:02
  their freedom for their significant other. Or
• 50:05
  not significant other, I guess their family member,
• 50:07
  their needy family member. Probably an easy decision
• 50:09
  for her to trade her life for her dad's. But
• 50:11
  then, where does courage and fear show up for
• 50:16
  her once that happens? So she's there, obviously
• 50:19
  her dad's set free, she's now... Committed to
• 50:22
  being in this castle with this beast. What does
• 50:25
  that journey look like? Another one of my favorite
• 50:28
  lines from that movie is when Marie says I've
• 50:32
  lived a full life like you have your whole life
• 50:34
  ahead of you don't do this and I think in her
• 50:39
  mind she is so Comfortable in herself She's okay
• 50:46
  being alone. She knows that that doesn't feel
• 50:50
  scary to her is to be alone. I think that the
• 50:54
  one thing that has always been really difficult
• 50:56
  for me to understand is how she lets her dad
• 50:58
  go knowing that she's never gonna see him again.
• 51:02
  But maybe there was a small part of her that
• 51:04
  was like, I'll figure that part out when I get
• 51:06
  there. I'll cross that bridge when it comes.
• 51:08
  What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna be present. I'm
• 51:11
  gonna do what I need to do right now. I'm gonna
• 51:13
  gather information. This is an inventor's mind,
• 51:16
  right? I'm gonna gather the information that's
• 51:19
  surrounding me. And then I'll make the decision
• 51:21
  about my dad later. So I almost wonder, just
• 51:24
  trying to be in the head of Belle, like, I'll
• 51:27
  just deal with what I've got. I'm going to use
• 51:29
  what I have. And then that decision is later.
• 51:32
  Maybe. No, I think that's interesting. Here's
• 51:35
  something that, like, I was rewatching Being
• 51:36
  the Beast last night with my five -year -old,
• 51:38
  which was so fun. She loves it. She loves Belle.
• 51:41
  I noticed, and once you said it, it reminded
• 51:43
  me, when Maurice is first there in the castle
• 51:45
  before the Beast comes, he comes upon... Cogsworth
• 51:49
  and Lumiere right right and he's not freaked
• 51:52
  out no no not even in the least he's just like
• 51:54
  oh this is interesting he's looking at Cogsworth
• 51:57
  he's like i'm wondering how this works like what's
• 51:58
  going on here right figure out Lumiere and then
• 52:01
  the little uh like Dog Ottoman comes up and he's
• 52:05
  like, all right, I'll put my feet up right and
• 52:06
  mrs. Potts comes and he's like, well great I'll
• 52:09
  drink some drink and then little chip. Yes on
• 52:11
  his mustache Mustache right like and he's just
• 52:15
  like fully embracing this experience that anybody
• 52:17
  else maybe in that village would have been like,
• 52:18
  oh no This is terrible. This is bad. This is
• 52:20
  new. I can't do this. So I have to be scared
• 52:23
  Yeah, and he embraces it and I think to your
• 52:25
  point I think bell does that same thing, right?
• 52:28
  Obviously she's scared of the beast. I don't
• 52:30
  think there's any any doubt initially She is
• 52:32
  but not at the other furniture. She is curious.
• 52:34
  I don't know if there's a lot of fear. Okay,
• 52:36
  that's fair I think she's taken a bath. She's
• 52:38
  like what what is this this new? Let me think
• 52:40
  through this. Let me think through this and then
• 52:42
  with the furniture that's there She like embraces
• 52:44
  it just like her dad did. Oh, yeah, like oh,
• 52:45
  yeah i'll talk with these these alive furniture
• 52:48
  items like, okay great Yeah, i'll talk with you.
• 52:50
  Here's the dresser. Yes i'll get dressed from
• 52:52
  your innards and then she's like talking with
• 52:54
  them about you know, oh well I'm not gonna go
• 52:56
  do that with him if he's gonna act that way.
• 52:58
  So she's already confiding and building a relationship
• 53:00
  with this furniture that's alive, which is so
• 53:03
  interesting. And then she asks them for her trust.
• 53:06
  And then she says, do you trust me to go throughout
• 53:09
  the castle? Can I do that? And they're like,
• 53:13
  oh, we shouldn't do that, but you seem trustworthy.
• 53:16
  So it's like they have this instant sense of...
• 53:19
  of relationship and I think you know it's an
• 53:21
  interesting contrast to when you look at Cogsworth
• 53:23
  and Lumiere right because Cogsworth is more of
• 53:26
  that I mean just like his joke was like hey if
• 53:28
  it's not broke don't fix it like yeah we're gonna
• 53:29
  do things the way they're supposed to we're gonna
• 53:31
  follow all the rules if the master says that
• 53:33
  we're doing it Lumiere's kind of like well hey
• 53:35
  there's a girl here be our guest right like we
• 53:38
  want you to be here and hang out yeah let's have
• 53:41
  fun you know that like uh I think And set the
• 53:44
  table, because we're going. Yes. And so you have
• 53:47
  that interesting contrast, too, in the way that
• 53:49
  those two kind of approach rules and relationships
• 53:52
  and stepping into something that's maybe different
• 53:54
  and scary. Lumiere still has this almost childlike
• 53:58
  hope. Yes. Right? Like, no, we're going to do
• 54:00
  this, and everything's going to work out. It's
• 54:02
  going to be fine, right? Belle and the master
• 54:05
  will will build a relationship and it's fine
• 54:07
  because we're all gonna be saved like he's got
• 54:09
  this this hope could it get any worse I think
• 54:12
  is maybe one of the themes of the movie is it's
• 54:15
  like Well, what else could go wrong here? Yeah,
• 54:18
  let's just let's just live in the moment. Yep.
• 54:20
  Yeah, she's she's here Let's embrace this. Yes,
• 54:23
  interesting opportunity. And so as as the story
• 54:27
  goes and Belle and the beast start kind of connecting
• 54:32
  and building this relationship Walk us through
• 54:34
  kind of what lessons you have from the way that
• 54:36
  that kind of developed leading up to kind of
• 54:39
  the end of the story I I would see a lot of themes
• 54:45
  around I Don't want to I don't want to use the
• 54:50
  term forgiveness, but just acceptance sure Like
• 54:53
  you know what if if you don't want to do it my
• 54:56
  way then fine But you know and and maybe maybe
• 55:01
  not being stubborn I don't know. I think forgiveness
• 55:04
  could apply because look ultimately the beast
• 55:08
  captured and imprisoned her father and then imprisoned
• 55:12
  her even though you know she was in a room and
• 55:15
  not in the actual jail cell but like he still
• 55:18
  did something that was harmful and kept her from
• 55:21
  her dad and so I do think that there was some
• 55:23
  forgiveness that had to occur she had to be willing
• 55:25
  to forgive him for doing that and in so doing
• 55:30
  I mean, part of that's what enabled him to grow.
• 55:34
  Because if she just continued holding that against
• 55:36
  him, they wouldn't have the opportunity to build
• 55:38
  a relationship. And the small glimmers of compassion
• 55:41
  from him. Like, in the most backwards way, like,
• 55:45
  you will come to dinner. And it's like, okay,
• 55:48
  well, he's inviting me to dinner, but he's making
• 55:50
  me go to dinner. Like, there's some compassion
• 55:53
  there, you know? So I think she was able to see
• 55:56
  through, just like Gaston. It's like she kind
• 55:58
  of went, yay. You're just a little different,
• 56:00
  but I don't dislike you. I just I'm not interested.
• 56:03
  Yeah, so patients Yeah, when she had some patients
• 56:06
  behind her to for sure she did and she had to
• 56:08
  be yeah If she wasn't be if she wasn't willing
• 56:10
  to be patient with him again, I think it would
• 56:13
  just fail They wouldn't build a relationship
• 56:14
  at all. No one things I heard one time is like,
• 56:17
  oh, what did the beast really do? Like he let
• 56:19
  her go access a library that he already had But
• 56:22
  here's what's interesting. I took a different
• 56:24
  look at it when I was again watching the movie
• 56:27
  again last night Because it's a stark contrast.
• 56:30
  I mean what we have is this is the tale that
• 56:31
  was from I don't know when it was originally
• 56:34
  written, but a while ago I don't know 1500 something
• 56:37
  like that. I mean, I'm gonna get this wrong and
• 56:39
  then we have to correct it but it was a long
• 56:41
  time ago and the story was originally written
• 56:42
  in this idea of Gaston not wanting her to read
• 56:47
  a book was pretty common actually. That was actually
• 56:50
  more the norm at the time, right? Yeah, you can't
• 56:54
  think, you can't read, that's not allowed. Well,
• 56:55
  that was actually a pretty common thing. So if
• 56:58
  we look at it from that lens and say, not only
• 57:01
  is the beast willing to show her this, he's like,
• 57:05
  you can have all these, this whole thing is yours.
• 57:08
  That actually would be very different. And accepting.
• 57:12
  Yeah. Like oh you want to read you want to have
• 57:14
  a mind of your own and do those things Absolutely.
• 57:17
  Yeah, like here is this for you so that you can
• 57:20
  do that i'm going to embrace that even though
• 57:21
  the rest of society might say no No, you don't
• 57:24
  you don't do that. He was willing to say that
• 57:26
  it is so that actually might have been a bigger
• 57:28
  deal And I think in today's world we would think
• 57:30
  it was right because now we're like, well, yeah
• 57:32
  So you've got a library in your letter walking
• 57:34
  in like big deal good for you, buddy Yeah, right.
• 57:36
  You got a huge library. Yeah, but actually maybe
• 57:38
  that was yeah, that was something. Yeah, so so
• 57:41
  as they go I mean, it's a classic song, right?
• 57:46
  Angela Lansbury singing, Eating the Beast, Taylor's
• 57:48
  Oldest Time, where they start to build this relationship
• 57:53
  and realize that there's more to each other than
• 57:57
  they had first thought and realized, and start
• 58:00
  to build this relationship. What do you think
• 58:03
  it took for the Beast to be able to tell her
• 58:06
  that she could go? was just thinking about this
• 58:09
  and I was I was gonna present the question to
• 58:11
  you is it was like at what point did he soften
• 58:15
  enough to go your freedom is more important than
• 58:19
  mine and she had given that to her dad and so
• 58:23
  that's it's a really beautiful thing that kind
• 58:26
  of carries throughout the movie that it was at
• 58:29
  one point he just decides like I love you more
• 58:32
  than I love my freedom so just go yeah you know
• 58:36
  It actually makes me think of a song in Frozen.
• 58:40
  Okay. You know the song Fixer Upper? Okay, I'm
• 58:42
  not a big Frozen fan. My kids are too old. That's
• 58:45
  probably true. Oh, that makes sense. Well, there's
• 58:47
  a song in there where these little rock creatures
• 58:51
  are singing, and it's because one of the characters
• 58:53
  they've known for a long time, he's kind of a
• 58:55
  fixer upper, right? Okay. He's got some rough
• 58:57
  edges, right? He's the beast. Yeah, exactly,
• 58:59
  right? He's kind of, you know, he's kind of grumpy
• 59:01
  guy. And one of the things they say in there
• 59:04
  is that love is this strong force and it's powerful
• 59:09
  and strange. In that sense that love is the way
• 59:12
  that somebody can change because you can't force
• 59:15
  them to. And this powerful and strange characteristic
• 59:20
  is what allows them to do it. So when we think
• 59:22
  about love being this force that's powerful and
• 59:25
  strange and you can't force somebody to change,
• 59:28
  I think that's where ultimately this led to,
• 59:31
  right? Belle showed him kindness and that kindness
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  spurred by love, not in this situation, it wasn't
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  romantic love initially, right? Just showing
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  him kindness and love in that way that helped
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  him to make the change internally. And then when
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  he did, you're exactly right, he realized that
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  her freedom was more important than his, that
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  it was okay if he had this curse. It was okay
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  if ultimately they end up suffering from whatever
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  the results of this curse were because her freedom
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  was more important. I think it goes back to that
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  sense of community that we've already kind of
• 1:00:05
  talked about, is it's like, man, it just feels
• 1:00:07
  so good to encourage somebody. It feels so good
• 1:00:10
  to tell somebody that they're capable. It feels
• 1:00:12
  so good to point out to somebody else all of
• 1:00:15
  their great qualities. And as selfish as it is,
• 1:00:20
  it really does make me feel better. It makes
• 1:00:24
  me want to give more. And so... There's that
• 1:00:28
  and it's like my cup is full. I'm okay. Go. Yeah.
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  Yeah It's uh So there's there's this quote that
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  I found as well that I think it really fits this
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  and want to get your take on it And actually
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  it leads directly to what you talked about at
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  the beginning with what this Enchantress was
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  offering to him The quotes from Ryan holiday.
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  It's called the obstacle is the way and it says
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  the obstacle is The obstacle in the path becomes
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  the path. Never forget, within every obstacle
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  is an opportunity to improve our condition. So
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  I love it. I'm gonna read again. The obstacle
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  in the path becomes the path. Yes. Isn't that
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  interesting? Yes. What's your take on that when
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  it comes to this story? Okay, so the obstacle
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  is the path. Yeah, the obstacle in the path becomes
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  the path. Becomes the path. That's some really
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  deep stuff, Ryan. Yeah. Gosh, I just feel like,
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  are we constantly overcoming something? We're
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  always revisiting, we're always rebuilding, we're
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  always inventing, we're always creating, and
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  maybe we're a little bit of alchemists in a way.
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  That it's like we have this alchemy in our life
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  that we can do whatever we want with whatever's
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  in front of us. And we can either fight it or
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  play with it. Yeah. Yeah. And when we reframe
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  it this way, that it's no longer an obstacle,
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  that it actually is the path. I think that's
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  what leads to every obstacle is an opportunity
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  to improve our condition. Exactly like you said.
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  So for the beast. the obstacle of becoming a
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  beast was actually the pathway that he needed
• 1:02:14
  to walk to grow, to learn to love somebody else.
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  And in learning to love Belle and being willing
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  to free her and put somebody else's needs over
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  his own was the path. That was the path. That's
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  the growth he needed to have. That is the growth
• 1:02:30
  that he needed to have. So to flip the script
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  on to you, so do we have to have that or if he
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  would have accepted that? sooner would he have
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  been at such a battle for so long? Yeah, I think
• 1:02:45
  it depends. I think the answer lies in the overarching
• 1:02:50
  story of our lives. Are there certain things
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  where we can overcome them pretty quickly? Do
• 1:02:54
  we learn that lesson fast? Yes. Are there others
• 1:02:56
  where we're only gonna learn the lesson if the
• 1:02:59
  obstacle is bigger and it takes us longer? I
• 1:03:01
  think the answer is yes. I think we are all gonna
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  face really big obstacles. that in the process
• 1:03:08
  of overcoming that obstacle is how we grow in
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  ways we couldn't have otherwise. So I think it
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  just depends. So like this story is emblematic
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  of like this one particular thing and yes, if
• 1:03:17
  the prince had just accepted her and brought
• 1:03:19
  her in, then it would have, but that's because
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  that would be a lesson he didn't need to learn.
• 1:03:23
  He wouldn't have needed to learn the lesson of
• 1:03:25
  loving somebody else more than your own comfort.
• 1:03:26
  But he needed to learn it because he didn't know
• 1:03:28
  it. Emblematic of him turning her away. Now he's
• 1:03:31
  got to go through this process to really learn
• 1:03:33
  what that is and it becomes a big one. I think
• 1:03:35
  we can all relate that we all have very big obstacles
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  that we at some point in time in our life face
• 1:03:40
  that require a lot more of us than smaller obstacles
• 1:03:45
  or things that are easier for us to overcome.
• 1:03:47
  I almost feel like if Gaston was the only option,
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  could he have been her obstacle? Oh, it's it's
• 1:03:57
  so interesting that you say that because actually
• 1:03:58
  We had this discussion with joey myself on an
• 1:04:02
  episode of this podcast That if bell had shown
• 1:04:06
  him the kindness and love Could he have overcome
• 1:04:09
  would he have softened? Yeah, could he have overcome
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  being the kind of egotistical? You know macho
• 1:04:16
  macho guy right a little bit narcissistic, right?
• 1:04:18
  Because he actually had some good qualities because
• 1:04:20
  he had a lot of what the beast was going on He
• 1:04:22
  was just angry with himself or what? I don't
• 1:04:25
  know what it was that was going on with Gaston
• 1:04:27
  But it's like was that the practice run for her
• 1:04:31
  to deal with the beast. So interesting. Yeah.
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  Yeah, it's a really good point Yeah, and I think
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  it does show that you know when we are willing
• 1:04:37
  to take that time that people can change yeah
• 1:04:42
  people really are capable of change it has to
• 1:04:44
  come from them we can't force it uh but i think
• 1:04:47
  showing kindness and love to those people is
• 1:04:50
  the pathway to that happening i agree and maybe
• 1:04:53
  there was that familiarity of her relationship
• 1:04:55
  with gaston that gave her an opportunity to go
• 1:04:58
  i've done this before like this guy's not this
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  Small potatoes. Yeah. Yeah. It totally, totally
• 1:05:04
  was. So it's like sometimes throughout life we
• 1:05:07
  have these obstacles that we approach and we
• 1:05:10
  go, oh, this is just a little bump, but then
• 1:05:12
  sometimes they're mountains. Yeah. Yeah. And
• 1:05:14
  we draw on the past experiences we had. We draw
• 1:05:18
  on what it was like for her father to be creative
• 1:05:21
  and curious, but also be rejected by other people.
• 1:05:23
  Yeah. Right. What did she learn from seeing him
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  do that and being okay of being free from the
• 1:05:29
  worrying about the judgment of others. What does
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  she learn from Gaston, you know, pursuing her
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  in her, you know, approaching that situation
• 1:05:37
  and then she draws on all those experiences to
• 1:05:40
  lead where she needs to, which is true love,
• 1:05:42
  right? I guess that's ultimately what they have
• 1:05:43
  is true love. Okay, so I'm gonna take us to our
• 1:05:47
  this or that segment, okay? Two ideas, I'm gonna
• 1:05:50
  give you two things and you just gotta say which
• 1:05:52
  one you choose, okay? Might be controversial,
• 1:05:54
  all right? And you gotta defend it, all right?
• 1:05:56
  No, they won't be bad. Village life or castle
• 1:06:00
  life? Oh, I'm such a people person. Oh, but I
• 1:06:03
  love those characters. They are the people Beach
• 1:06:07
  life, okay, okay Maurice's workshop or The library
• 1:06:13
  in the castle library in the castle. I'm a ferocious
• 1:06:16
  reader. Okay big reader. That'd be a good one
• 1:06:18
  then Yeah, okay dinner with Lumiere or tea with
• 1:06:22
  mrs. Potts These are tough Well, well said ah
• 1:06:31
  I Love a good time Lumiere. Yeah, I'm there.
• 1:06:34
  Yeah look like it being in this song be our guest
• 1:06:37
  Like all that pomp and circumstance. I don't
• 1:06:40
  love it. How do you get up? ballroom dance or
• 1:06:44
  exploring the Forbidden West Wing I Am romanticize
• 1:06:50
  everything the ballroom dance. Yeah. Yeah, and
• 1:06:53
  the good one such a great scene to so well animated
• 1:06:57
  Yeah, and that movie like it's very beautiful.
• 1:07:00
  Yeah Early riser or night owl early riser. Okay
• 1:07:04
  same Solo road trip or group vacation. Yeah,
• 1:07:09
  these are solo Road trip really I would have
• 1:07:14
  guessed when you said your people person I was
• 1:07:16
  for sure like I was easy group vacation. No solo
• 1:07:18
  road trip. So sometimes sometimes you got to
• 1:07:20
  Yeah, you need that cathartic just clear your
• 1:07:23
  head. Yeah. Yep Okay, here's one that I think
• 1:07:27
  I know the answer now, but I'm gonna go with
• 1:07:28
  it anyways. Yellow ball gown or blue village
• 1:07:31
  dress? And the one that Belle wears initially
• 1:07:34
  when she's walking through the town or the ball
• 1:07:37
  gown when she's doing the ballroom dance. Can
• 1:07:40
  I have the dresser full of all of the garb? Done,
• 1:07:44
  done, you get it. I forget the dresser's name,
• 1:07:47
  but. Yeah, I want I want the drawers full of
• 1:07:50
  all of it. Okay, totally fair. Totally fair Okay,
• 1:07:52
  here's our rapid fire. So it's just the first
• 1:07:54
  thing to come to your mind. Okay favorite Disney
• 1:07:58
  movie Lion King Excellent. Yeah, okay another
• 1:08:02
  another from the Disney decade Disney Renaissance.
• 1:08:04
  It's a great one favorite Disney song. I'll come
• 1:08:07
  back. Okay favorite Disney princess Favorite
• 1:08:17
  Disney hero or heroine? Aladdin. Okay, I like
• 1:08:22
  I thought you're gonna go back to Mulan, but
• 1:08:24
  I like Aladdin. I like that one. He's great.
• 1:08:25
  Favorite Disney villain? Hades. He's so good.
• 1:08:29
  He's so good. I love Hades. Okay, which enchanted
• 1:08:34
  object would you want as your best friend? Do
• 1:08:38
  you think about all the different characters
• 1:08:40
  that were there in the castle in Beauty and the
• 1:08:42
  Beast? She's so sassy. The Duster. Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:48
  She's so sassy and just like a girl's girl. Okay,
• 1:08:52
  I love it. Yeah. Well, that's a great one. I
• 1:08:54
  was not expecting that one, but it's so good.
• 1:08:56
  Yes. Your ultimate dinner guest. My dad. Okay,
• 1:09:02
  that speaks a lot. Yeah, I love that. Okay, let's
• 1:09:05
  go back to favorite Disney song. Can I pick from
• 1:09:08
  Hannah Montana, The Climb? Is that a Disney song?
• 1:09:11
  Hannah Montana is definitely Disney. Yeah, I
• 1:09:13
  think she sings it in her Hannah Montana movie,
• 1:09:15
  right? Boy, I'm not a Hannah Montana like aficionado,
• 1:09:18
  but I'm here for it. I'm gonna I'm gonna say
• 1:09:21
  that one Okay, good. I have not I have not gotten
• 1:09:24
  that one as an answer yet. So I like it I like
• 1:09:26
  it because it's something different. It might
• 1:09:28
  not be right It might not be Disney, but I under
• 1:09:31
  the umbrella of her being Hannah Montana in the
• 1:09:34
  movie. Yeah, that's great Then yeah, perfect.
• 1:09:36
  Okay. I love it Okay, so as we kind of think
• 1:09:39
  about kind of your closing reflection thoughts
• 1:09:41
  about Beauty and the Beast about this kind of
• 1:09:45
  journey that she went on, starting new chapters,
• 1:09:47
  fear, stepping into it. What are some closing
• 1:09:49
  reflections that you have? And then after that,
• 1:09:51
  we'll take us into our three actionable takeaways.
• 1:09:55
  Closing reflection, okay, closing reflections
• 1:09:57
  on? On the overall movie and kind of what you
• 1:10:03
  kind of learned from it, what it kind of teaches
• 1:10:04
  us overall that will kind of lead us into our
• 1:10:06
  three takeaways. Gosh, there are so many things
• 1:10:09
  that I take away from this movie. It's just rich
• 1:10:13
  with lessons and knowledge and wisdom. See things
• 1:10:18
  for deeper, look deeper. Don't settle on your
• 1:10:23
  first impression. I think that's really great.
• 1:10:27
  Sometimes that first impression will keep us
• 1:10:29
  from doing something. When we too quickly make
• 1:10:34
  a judgment, that judgment's based in fear, and
• 1:10:38
  that fear keeps us from being courageous. Yeah,
• 1:10:42
  um, and and I think what we see from bel and
• 1:10:45
  from maris is their willingness to be curious
• 1:10:47
  their willingness to try something new even When
• 1:10:50
  they don't know the pathway forward and they
• 1:10:53
  don't know what the answer is going to be um
• 1:10:55
  in taking on a challenge Again with with courage
• 1:10:59
  to do it and with curiosity. Yes Okay, so what
• 1:11:04
  we like to give everybody at the end of every
• 1:11:05
  episode is three specific things that somebody
• 1:11:08
  can put into Action today or this week. Okay,
• 1:11:14
  so what are three actionable takeaways that you
• 1:11:16
  could give to somebody three actionable takeaways
• 1:11:19
  I'm gonna say Be present in your space and use
• 1:11:23
  what you have Okay, you have a lot of access
• 1:11:27
  to a number of things So you don't have to go
• 1:11:31
  out looking for anything Use use what you have.
• 1:11:34
  I think Bell took her opportunity in the castle
• 1:11:38
  be friended these characters used what she had
• 1:11:42
  and was able to to really get what she wanted
• 1:11:45
  which was to have her family in that beautiful
• 1:11:47
  castle yeah yeah absolutely okay number two number
• 1:11:50
  two okay i thought about this and it had something
• 1:11:53
  to do with Gaston and the beast um and we kind
• 1:11:58
  of already covered it a little bit and now i'm
• 1:12:00
  drawing a blank on what what it was i think one
• 1:12:02
  of the things that i heard as we talked and also
• 1:12:04
  i think we talked about a little bit before which
• 1:12:05
  was um Kind of analyzing if it's the right step
• 1:12:09
  and then drawing on your past experiences both
• 1:12:11
  good and bad to learn. Yes, yes. Yes, using both
• 1:12:19
  to learn. Looking at your past and knowing, okay,
• 1:12:25
  this tool actually has carried me to this point.
• 1:12:29
  And so drawing on your past and being able to
• 1:12:31
  use those opportunities and those lessons and
• 1:12:33
  wisdoms that you've. Come along the way use use
• 1:12:36
  your Gaston's to overcome your beasts. Yeah,
• 1:12:39
  right. Yeah, I like it. Yep um, and and then
• 1:12:42
  you know, one of the things we talked about before
• 1:12:43
  too was kind of the next thing would be Analyzing
• 1:12:47
  if you're doing it because the world wants you
• 1:12:49
  to or because it's authentically you yes So this
• 1:12:52
  is a big Maurice play, but also a very big beast
• 1:12:55
  play Yeah, so it's like he he was presenting
• 1:12:59
  himself in a way where that um matriarch or whoever
• 1:13:03
  she was that showed up at the door I can't remember
• 1:13:05
  but where she was saying hey you're not throwing
• 1:13:09
  you're not showing up authentically and I'm gonna
• 1:13:11
  push you there and so and then there was Maurice
• 1:13:14
  who was like this nutty professor who was like,
• 1:13:19
  I don't care what any of you guys think, I'm
• 1:13:20
  having a great time and I'm doing fun things.
• 1:13:23
  And even with Bell going, I love to read and
• 1:13:26
  I don't care if you guys think that that's weird
• 1:13:28
  and I've got my nose buried in a book. So I think
• 1:13:31
  being truly authentic and authenticity always
• 1:13:36
  wins. Yeah. And then lastly, I think one of the
• 1:13:40
  things that once someone's taken the opportunity
• 1:13:41
  to be present, look at what they have access
• 1:13:44
  to, draw on their past experiences and decide
• 1:13:47
  if they're going to do something that's for the
• 1:13:49
  world or authentically themselves. I think the
• 1:13:50
  last thing is really just take the first step.
• 1:13:53
  Gotta take that first step. No matter how small,
• 1:13:55
  no matter how minute, that very first step starts
• 1:13:59
  the momentum. You've got to start it somewhere.
• 1:14:01
  So starting from that, analyzing and then starting.
• 1:14:04
  And I think sometimes that step is just speaking
• 1:14:07
  out loud. This is my idea. This is what I believe.
• 1:14:11
  Speaking it into existence. Speaking it into
• 1:14:14
  existence. Well, thank you so much for being
• 1:14:17
  on the episode today. Thank you for having me.
• 1:14:19
  I really enjoyed talking with you about one of
• 1:14:22
  my favorites, Being the Beast. It's certainly
• 1:14:23
  a classic that tailors all the time. Yep. And
• 1:14:27
  we look forward to seeing your continued future
• 1:14:30
  success with Kenbury Capital, with all the great
• 1:14:34
  things you're doing for others in the South Valley
• 1:14:35
  Chamber and the community. Thank you, Ryan. As
• 1:14:39
  you leave this conversation, remember that yes,
• 1:14:42
  the past can hurt and you can either run from
• 1:14:45
  it or you can learn from it. So here's to learning
• 1:14:48
  and finding joy in the journey. See you real
• 1:14:52
  soon.