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William E. Simpson II: Wild Horses Could Save Lake Tahoe, Stop Glyphosate Poisoning & Generate Revenue · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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  Hello, everybody.
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  It's Michael Jaco with Unleashing Intuition Secrets.
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  We have William E. Simpson II back, Wild Horse Fire Brigade.
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  And we're gonna be talking about gly- glyphosate and how they wanna use it
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  to, take down the herbivores around Lake Tahoe and poison everything.
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  And they're using emergency act, kinda like they did with COVID,
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  so they can get this stuff through and no one can say anything.
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  But we're draw- we're basically bringing awareness to everybody.
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  And William, thank you so much for doing that.
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  Yeah, I'm happy to do it.
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  It's very concerning when they wanna use something like… Glyphosate
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  is a very serious chemical and it's it's very biologically active.
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  If, and when they…
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  they've been using it on the Caldor fire scar already.
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  And apparently they've used a little bit of sleight of hand administrative
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  trickery to actually apply a lot more than what they said they were gonna
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  do, and they may even be dialing it up to use it even more prolifically.
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  And it's g- glyphosate is an interesting thing because it's a glycine analog, so
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  it, your body, when your body gets it, or any other animal sees it or gets it
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  in inside, it mistakes it for glycine and it can inte- integrate it into collagen.
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  And- Wow … and it causes all kinds of problems.
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  It, it's a carcinogen.
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  It's got pro- there's big problems with it.
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  When you put it on the soil, it kills all the microbiome.
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  And and then, there's a long list of things.
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  I don't know where you want to begin, Mike, but there's a long list of
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  adverse, and I don't even know if they're unintended side effects.
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  I think these people understand what this is gonna do.
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  Really?
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  Wow.
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  That's crazy.
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  It's kinda they created the COVID flu to, bring in the vaccine that was really
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  destructive to the Amer- the human race.
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  Why do these psychopaths do this kind of stuff?
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  We- we've talked about how the wild horses could go in and control, the herbivo-
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  the herbivore and keep it under control.
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  And you've talked about how there was, like, this huge fire that was coming
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  through, and where you got, where you had the wild horses, that's where the
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  fire stopped, right at that point.
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  Right.
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  So obvious- Well- … you have evidence that they can, do incredible things
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  Yeah, we know from a fa- from empirical experience, hundreds of years of
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  empirical experience, when you have available fuel and an ignition
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  source, you're gonna have a fire.
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  And and the thing about fire, and anybody who has a fireplace or a stove
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  knows these things, when you need more heat, you add more fuel, right?
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  In my cabin here, when it gets a little too cold, we throw extra
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  logs in and boom, suddenly we can get the cabin up to 85 degrees.
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  Heat is a function of fuel, and because we are herbivory, which are all the
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  critters that eat grass and brush, deer, elk, even rabbits and even insects.
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  Ev- insects can be a very powerful herbivore.
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  Like in, in Nevada, they've got the Mormon crickets, and when you get a swarm of
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  crickets or locusts, they can level… They can just take down a whole pasture.
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  And they're, so they're her- they're herbaceous insects that,
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  they eat grass too and other things, crops and you name it.
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  But in California, our big problem is we've mismanaged our wildlife,
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  especially the deer and the elk.
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  The herds are way down.
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  In California, we're way down, and the whole West Coast, we're way down.
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  In California, we're down about one and a half million deer and that is
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  relevant because that many deer, we're talking over a couple million tons
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  of annual grass and brush, and that's the key word, annual grass and brush.
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  It comes back under normal circumstances every year.
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  So if you prescribe burn it- It comes back the next year.
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  And in the process of prescribed burning, when you have too much grass
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  and brush, 'cause you have no deer and elk anymore, or very few, 'cause of
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  mismanagement, it burns abnormally hot.
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  And the government is even starting to admit it now, because
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  it's kinda like CYA, right?
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  At some point they're gonna lose their qualified immunity.
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  When you… There's this balance in the law f- people, elected officials, county
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  commissioners, supervisors, Congress people, call the Congress critters, they
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  have what they call qualified immunity.
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  But there's a place in the law where when you engage in gross negligence,
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  you lose your qualified immunity.
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  Once there's gross negligence proved, you lose your shield.
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  That goes away, and you become personally liable.
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  So the stakes all of a sudden, it's like double jeopardy suddenly.
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  And so they know what's happening and the, either, either willfully ignorant
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  or there's monetization involved that, that will drive a certain
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  model that's not good for the people or the landscape or the wildlife.
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  The deer and elk are way down, and we know for a fact that the fuel in California,
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  the grass and brush, is out of control.
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  And that's why we have these big fires.
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  Yeah.
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  Because when you have grass and brush that's-
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  Every year.
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  This year's probably gonna be really bad because we had a lot of rain this winter.
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  And I remember li- I've lived in California, almost half my life, and on
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  and off, being in the military, going all over the place, but still, half my life.
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  And we get big rains in the winter, and we get big fires in the summer.
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  It's crazy.
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  But they never manage the land.
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  It's cra- and you talked about this the last o- a coup- we've done a couple
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  shows, but you talked about this, how it's, why don't they do that?
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  It's because it's a money-making scheme that they have where they have these
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  huge- Yeah … fires and they come in and have all these fire crews come in
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  and they're going to the hotels and eating food and they're getting paid.
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  And so it's a big money-making scam to keep these fires going.
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  Yeah it's, I saw a cartoon, oh, it was probably six years ago, and it
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  shows some executives in a building looking out the window at a massive
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  wildfire, and this one executive says to the other, "We have to figure out
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  how to monetize this immediately."
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  And it- that cartoon is so dead on,
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  yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And but that's exactly what's happening now.
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  It's… I grew up in the country here, in the mountains up here.
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  I was a logger, rancher.
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  We made money logging.
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  And then w- and then, the nice thing about being a logger is we had all these giant
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  slash piles, and back in the day, when you're cutting down trees that are three,
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  four foot at the butt, when you limb it, you're getting nice fireplace logs.
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  The limbs are nice logs for f- so w- we would go back after, in the weekends
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  when we weren't logging for Weyerhaeuser or whoever, and we would do wood
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  cutting for, to then sell firewood.
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  So we would go out there, and the s- limbs that we took off these big trees,
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  we'd chop them up into logs and stack them in our trucks and take them down
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  and sell them for $200, $300 a cord.
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  And, so we spent a lot of time in the woods, and I learned quite a
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  bit about forestry just working for different people in the woods and my
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  brother-in-law was a Klamath tribal member, and he learned- Wow … how to
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  log from his dad, which was the old way.
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  You… the sustainable logging was important.
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  Yeah.
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  We never cut the grand… We called them the grandfather trees on the
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  ridge, which are the big seed trees.
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  So if you cut the slope- … then the big seed trees up the
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  ridge will reseed it naturally.
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  And so- Okay … so but the, when the spotted owl came, all of
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  that went to an, came to an end.
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  The US Forest Service, when I was logging, was about their energy, and all their
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  budget was for sustainable timber harvest.
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  But then because we let some crazy environmentalists convince people that
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  the spotted owl was victimized by loggers, which turned out to be completely wrong-
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  Yeah
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  … it's actually the barred owl was eating the spotted owl.
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  The barred owl's a big badass owl, and it was wiping out the s- smaller spotted
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  owls, taking over all of its terrain.
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  But, That's true.
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  Now we know
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  Yeah, once we got kicked out, out of the woods, 'cause we were the bad
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  guys killing the spotted owls, right?
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  That was the allegations, which were completely false.
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  The Forest Service, US Forest Service said, now what are we gonna do?
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  We're not in the sustainable timber harvest anymore.
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  We closed down all the mills.
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  All the loggers sold their saws 'cause we were all going bro- broke."
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  And of course I h- you know, it was a summer job for me 'cause I was
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  going to school at Oregon State.
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  But- Nice … they dec- figured out how to make money with the forest
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  anyway, which is basically managing fire, managing large s- forest fires
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  like they're a prescribed burn.
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  And so now what they're doing is just like what you say.
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  Our county, Siskiyou County now and they won't say it and this is my
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  conspiracy, which is when I see the fire season start, I see the hotels
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  and restaurants fill up here- Yep
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  With all y- fire service people.
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  There's vendors for the fires.
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  There's these guys, those guys, the other guys.
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  Everybody is getting paid and so they're, we've become dependent on disaster
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  now for income And this is really a bad paradigm because now we know that
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  the smoke is killing tens of thousands of Californians and western United…
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  people in the western US and in Canada.
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  The smoke now, because it's so hot, has new toxins.
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  Yeah.
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  It's a different chemistry.
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  Okay?
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  So they call that pyrochemistry, a- and for the audience to understand
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  and this is rock solid science.
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  This isn't conspiracy.
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  When you put, let's say we put three things in a test tube and we heat it
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  up at 800 degrees or 1,000 degrees, you're gonna get certain resulting
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  compounds every time you do it.
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  The experiment is consistent.
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  Then if you take the same three things, put it in the test tube,
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  and you heat it up at 1,500 or 2,000, you get brand new compounds.
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  Okay?
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  So it's a function of the heat in the chemical oxidation combustion process.
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  And so the fires are so hot because of all the fuel, because of, no
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  more deer, no more lawnmowers.
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  We, Elmer Fudd ran around and shot all the lawnmowers.
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  Of course, it's not just Elmer Fudd, it's vehicular accidents and some disease.
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  Chronic wasting is coming into California now.
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  We don't know how bad it is 'cause they never tell you
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  the truth until it's too late.
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  They wait till the cat's out of the bag, and then they tell you after.
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  It's "Oh, by the way, it's…" The d- CDC blew the whistle
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  on chronic wasting disease.
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  It's in 29 states now, epidemic.
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  But you don't see people talking about that because prion disease, chronic
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  wasting disease, is based on a prion.
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  It's a misshapen protein.
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  It's not a bacteria, it's not a virus.
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  It's a protein.
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  And so when deer get that and Dr. Mark Zabel told me this, he's an assistant
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  professor of prion research at the Prion Research Center in Fort Collins, Colorado.
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  He said, "Bill because it's a protein and the vector is vegetative
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  material-" Cows can get it.
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  They can get it from the deer and the elk that are spreading it, 'cause
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  it comes from urine and feces on the v- on the vegetative material.
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  So if a- … cow or a sheep eat it, they get it.
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  It's called mad cow or BSE in cows or- … scrapies in sheep.
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  And if we eat contaminated meat, we get it, and it's called
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  Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.
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  And it- Yeah … every case is fatal.
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  There is no treatment.
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  You get it, you die.
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  You're done.
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  It's a death sentence.
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  So they're monetizing the fire now because they haven't figured out that
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  sustainable timber harvest is really where we need to be, because you
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  don't have the smoke that's killing… And by the way, the smoke, because
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  of UCLA study, that should've been front page news on the LA Times.
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  UCLA study, and anybody in your audience Google this,
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  UCLA death toll wildfire smoke.
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  This is not conspiracy.
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  This is an 11-year study by a major university, okay?
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  This is UCLA that we're talking about.
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  And UCLA found that 5,000 Californians die prematurely
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  from wildfire smoke every year.
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  These are people that would have not died except for breathing this smoke.
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  And it, and what it's all about, just so we know is that…
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  And that's just California.
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  During the course of the 11-year study, 55,000 Californians died
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  prematurely, and the impact of that was $435 billion just in California.
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  $435 billion.
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  Now that's a big number.
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  B- I, most people probably can't even get their head around that number, but, we're
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  talking about the kind of money that runs the whole US government kind of money.
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  $435 billion, that's serious.
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  And, Yeah … yeah, there's the study right there.
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  And right there at the top you can see where it says that.
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  But what we need to do is we-
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  And that's just in California
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  Correct
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  … 50, 52 to 55,000 in the 11 years.
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  So that's at least 5,000 a year.
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  And, Yep
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  if you translate that into all the other states what are your thoughts?
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  How many per year are dying?
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  That's a good, that's a really good question, Mike.
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  I had the same question my- myself.
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  And so what I did is I took that study, and there's a brand-new study
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  out about the smoke from the American Chemical Society, by the way, ACS.
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  American Chemical Society came out with a study in December of 2025, brand new.
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  It's only five months old, and they said, "Oh, we've been looking
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  at the smoke." And I know they've been reading some of my research.
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  I've been… Since my wife died from the smoke in 2019-
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  Yeah, I'm sorry
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  about your- I
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  started writing-
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  originally your wife died from this problem, the smoke.
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  Yeah And it's not it wasn't a death, so that's I'm sorry about that.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It's, so I talked to… When she was, it's the smoke, it
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  took a long time to kill her.
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  She was a tough, healthy girl, a country girl.
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  Yeah.
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  Perfect.
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  No, no comorbidities, never took any drugs.
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  A good Christian.
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  Bottom line is what it, the chemicals in the smoke now are new.
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  They're novel, but I couldn't put my hand… I didn't have a lab.
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  I couldn't study the smoke.
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  So I kept talking about novel compounds in the smoke and then I started
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  talking to people around the world, and because the doctors up at the…
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  She was at the major clinic up there in Portland, Or- Oregon
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  Health Science University.
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  That's our version of UCLA in, in Portland.
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  Yeah.
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  In Portland, Oregon.
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  And so the, she had a whole team of neurologists.
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  These are the top guys, Johns Hopkins, Mayo Clinic.
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  They were scratching their heads that, "We don't know what's killing her."
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  And I kept telling, they did every test in the book, and I said,
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  "Look, I think it's the smoke here.
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  It's Occam's razor.
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  When you eliminate everything else, what's left is probably what
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  it is." And I said, "She didn't get sick-" Until after the smoke.
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  And I got lung damage from it, from being on the fire line nine days.
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  So I we, I kept writing about it, and then lo and behold, in 2024, the UCLA
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  study came out, and I go there you go." She was one of the 5,000 that got dead.
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  Wow.
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  And then the ACS study came out, out just four mon- five months ago, American
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  Chemical Society study saying they've been looking at the smoke, and they've
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  determined that there's 21% more stuff in the smoke than we knew about.
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  And the stuff that we didn't know about until just recent, five
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  months ago, are these new forms of volatile organic compounds that
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  are in the class of carcinogens.
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  So when you breathe these things, if you're genetically susceptible, and I'll
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  explain what I mean by that in a second, but if you're genetically susceptible,
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  which my wife was, it can kill you.
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  It can affect your liver.
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  You get an autoimmune degenerative disease.
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  It can attack your brain, in her case it was her brain, or your heart or your
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  lungs or your liver or your spleen.
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  So what I mean by that is that when if we look at, for instance, the 1918
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  great flu pandemic, okay, the Spanish flu that killed 50 million people
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  at least worldwide there were…
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  We didn't know much about virus or bacteria in 1918.
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  We were still like, in the Stone Age on that stuff.
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  There were people with just taking care of people bleeding out their eyes and ears.
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  It's like hammer, it's like a plague, dying.
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  And those people that took care of all the dying people never got sick.
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  Why?
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  It's because they were genetically resistant.
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  They had genetics in their body so they could develop an immune factor so they,
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  that would protect them from the virus.
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  They never got it.
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  Wow.
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  So and that's why, that's the imp- that's why genetic diversity
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  is important in a species.
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  Because you're gonna have so many different genetic profiles that there'll
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  be certain people or animals that when a disease comes, they won't die
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  because they have these special assets that God gave them, and it's through
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  evolutionary, co-evolutionary processes with disease and with the environment.
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  And it's, Mother Nature, humans forget, w- we think we're not
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  subject to natural selection.
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  That's just ignorance speak right there.
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  Damn we're subject to it.
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  When these diseases come through, that's- … Mother Nature saying, "Okay, it's time
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  to test the human population." And people get dead from these different diseases
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  because they didn't have the immunity that was based on a genetic profile.
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  So with regard to going back to the smoke and the fire, … what I did is I
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  took these two studies, the UCLA study and the American Chemical Society study.
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  I dropped it into a supercomputer and I said, "Please extrapolate what this
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  would represent in premature deaths on the we- and cost for that on the
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  West Coast of the United States," all the western states combined.
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  ' Cause we're, the western states are being hammered right now.
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  And the computer said that it's gonna be about 36,000 people dead prematurely
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  every year, so 36,000 premature deaths every year, men, women and children.
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  And the cost of that is $218 billion a year.
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  And these are health related costs.
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  They're, and loss of productivity.
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  It's not property and casualty.
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  That's another 50 billion to the- … insurance industry.
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  That's another 50 billion.
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  So when I talk to people about Wild Horse Fire Brigade- And talk
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  about the collapsed herbivory.
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  First of all, a lot of people don't even know what an herbivory is, shockingly.
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  The government's got everybody so dumbed down these days, people don't
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  understand the… And they don't even wanna take the time to learn,
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  even when their life is on the line.
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  This is need to know information, Michael.
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  And the thing is this, these new compounds, okay, these new volumetric
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  compounds are different than PM2.5.
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  They can become that, they can coalesce into a larger particle, but when they
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  don't coalesce, they go right through your mask and into your b- into your cells.
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  They go right through the cell wall.
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  They go right into the mitochondria.
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  Wow.
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  That's how small they are.
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  So- Jesus … and then they trick your genetics into doing things.
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  Like in my wife's case, it tricked her own antibodies into believing
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  her brain was a pathogen, so her own antibodies attacked her brain.
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  Damn.
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  And of course it c- it can manifest in different ways.
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  It can convince your antibodies to attack your liver or your heart
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  or your spleen or your lungs.
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  So anyway, so we know the chemistry
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  and- A- a lot of the, you know that we have the chemtrailing, and the
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  chemtrailing there's, they know there's aluminum in 'em and part of
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  that could be, they're trying to get rid of the, when they create aluminum,
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  there's like the residue from that, and they just like, "Okay, you guys
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  can just drop it from aircraft."
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  But the the trees are getting this aluminum, and that causes them to
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  really burn at a higher intensity too.
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  So with that burning, someone had it in the chat, and I was like, "Wow,
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  that's interesting a possibility," that some of that is getting into
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  the air, and that's also part of the problem with us breathing some of that.
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  So what happens is Raytheon has the patents on integrating
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  nanoparticle aluminum into jet fuel.
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  And the way they sell it to everybody is that it increases combustion
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  efficiency in the jet engines.
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  Yes.
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  Which it does.
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  It gives you a few percent beneficial you get a little bit more
• 20:48
  mileage per gallon, if you will.
• 20:50
  Okay?
• 20:51
  But, okay, so when normally, in a normal jet engine, when you burn fuel, you do
• 20:57
  get water vapor, and so at altitude where it's below freezing, when the water vapor
• 21:02
  comes out the back of the jet engine with the hot exhaust, it turns to ice.
• 21:07
  Okay?
• 21:08
  So you'll see a contrail, and that's just ice crystals, okay, at altitude.
• 21:13
  And then what happens is the ice crystals sublimate, so they go from a
• 21:18
  solid water, which is ice, to a gas.
• 21:21
  At that altitude, they sublimate.
• 21:23
  They don't turn into the liquid phase.
• 21:25
  The water has three phases, solid, liquid, gaseous, okay?
• 21:30
  That's the three phases of water.
• 21:32
  So when it comes out the jet engine, a normal jet engine with
• 21:35
  normal fuel, you get a contrail.
• 21:37
  Those are ice crystals.
• 21:38
  And so after about three miles they dissipate, they
• 21:41
  sublimate, and you don't see it.
• 21:42
  So a normal contrail is only about three, five miles long.
• 21:45
  Now, full stop.
• 21:47
  When you burn fuel with aluminum in it, aluminum is interesting because
• 21:53
  it has a lot of available electrons.
• 21:55
  It likes to bond with, as mo- water loves to stick to aluminum ions.
• 22:01
  So it, it is what you would call a condensation nuclei.
• 22:05
  Okay?
• 22:05
  So when it comes out, the water attaches to the aluminum and freezes,
• 22:10
  and then because the aluminum is so likes to grab stuff and hang on to it,
• 22:15
  those ice crystals don't sublimate.
• 22:18
  They stay locked on the aluminum, and so you get these huge, long
• 22:22
  clouds of- condensation nuclei.
• 22:25
  It's ice mixed with aluminum.
• 22:28
  And so what that does, the idea is to bounce sunlight back out to outer space
• 22:32
  off the top of the clouds that they form.
• 22:35
  The problem with this is that aluminum, when it gets on the ground-
• 22:40
  Prevents trees and plants from their uptake of nutrients, and it star-
• 22:45
  it, it's a way of starving the…
• 22:48
  and they know this.
• 22:48
  They know alu- you put aluminum on the ground, it'll kill trees.
• 22:52
  There is no organic life form on the planet, plants, fungus,
• 22:59
  algaes or other animal that use aluminum i- in their metabolism.
• 23:05
  No- nobody uses that.
• 23:07
  No plant uses it.
• 23:08
  No human, no animal uses aluminum.
• 23:11
  It is toxic to all forms of life.
• 23:14
  I had a- It is toxic … an expert on that said that, just like you're saying,
• 23:18
  there's not necessarily, they're chem trailing specific planes are doing that.
• 23:22
  Like you just said, it's in all the jet fuel.
• 23:26
  Yeah.
• 23:26
  And pretty much.
• 23:27
  So it's not- Yeah, not-
• 23:28
  not individual, conspiracy to do this, but in a broader s- scheme
• 23:34
  to, like you're talking about, bounce the sunlight back out.
• 23:38
  And I've heard some people say it's also to create a shield
• 23:41
  basically so we don't get hit by missiles and all kind of good stuff.
• 23:45
  So there's lots of different, s- people talking about that.
• 23:48
  So yeah, just like we were talking about before the show, you're like… You got
• 23:51
  some pretty big brains for a cowboy.
• 23:53
  I'm pretty impressed.
• 23:56
  Yeah.
• 23:57
  I, they, I tried to get rid of those pesky brain cells in college
• 24:00
  by drinking a lot of beer at the keggers, and it didn't work.
• 24:04
  It worked.
• 24:04
  It worked.
• 24:04
  You didn't get numb down.
• 24:05
  Good job.
• 24:06
  You got, you- Yeah … get the good stuff.
• 24:07
  Anyway yeah yeah the chem the solar radiation management program has a lot of
• 24:12
  problems, and I think that they're not… See, they don't wanna tell the public the
• 24:17
  truth about what's happening in the world.
• 24:19
  The reason being is a lot of people may not just go to work tomorrow.
• 24:23
  If they know how bad stuff really is-
• 24:26
  I
• 24:26
  see … they may not just go to work.
• 24:27
  They may, "You know what? I need to retire early. I need to get what
• 24:30
  I can out of this life before this whole show caves in on us." Yeah.
• 24:34
  Because the big corporations that run this country, it isn't
• 24:38
  the government, by the way.
• 24:39
  That, the government and all the c- congress critters- That's
• 24:43
  a Kabuki show for the people.
• 24:45
  This government is run by big corporations.
• 24:48
  Big American corporations and world corporations run the planet, and they
• 24:53
  want you to go to work every day because that's what may keeps them rich and keeps
• 24:58
  them in doing what they wanna do, which includes building underground cities
• 25:02
  right now so they can escape anything that may happen while we're busy on the
• 25:07
  top doing the work until we end up dead.
• 25:10
  We get dead, but they don't care because we're just a d- a cons- we're expendables.
• 25:15
  So we're expendable.
• 25:17
  But, the thing is if everybody knew how dicey things are right
• 25:22
  now and what's going on, why are they spraying toxic aluminum?
• 25:26
  They know it's toxic.
• 25:27
  Why are they spraying in the atmosphere?
• 25:29
  There's something really bad that's about to happen and I don't know if it's a solar
• 25:34
  maximum- Yeah … that they're trying to bounce back more extreme ultraviolet.
• 25:38
  There's things going on that they're not telling us, because if we know
• 25:43
  the truth, it's kinda A Few Good Men, "You can't handle the truth."
• 25:46
  See the government actually believes that people can't handle the truth,
• 25:50
  but that doesn't even matter.
• 25:51
  We have a right to the truth.
• 25:54
  We are Americans.
• 25:55
  We have a right to the truth.
• 25:58
  Yep, we
• 25:58
  do and I, and denying us the truth is a crime.
• 26:02
  That is a crime.
• 26:03
  And people need to wise up.
• 26:05
  They need to start paying attention, and just like right now, when
• 26:08
  these fires are happening, if you don't wear carbon filters, a, the
• 26:12
  little mask isn't gonna do crap.
• 26:14
  It gets the PM2.5 off, but if you're not wearing a carbon filter, you're
• 26:19
  inhaling a lot of those volatile organic compounds that, that American
• 26:23
  Chemical Society says is there.
• 26:25
  Not Bill Simpson.
• 26:26
  A- ACS says so, and they're the big dog.
• 26:30
  When they bark, you better listen because it's on the money.
• 26:34
  If you… You gotta wear a carbon filter.
• 26:36
  Yeah.
• 26:37
  If you don't have activated charcoal you're breathing that stuff in.
• 26:41
  And the other thing the super computer told me beside the, that 36,000 people
• 26:44
  will die prematurely every year in the Western US alone, it's a much bigger
• 26:48
  number across the whole US by the way, 218 billion a year in damages,
• 26:53
  healthcare, loss of economic productivity.
• 26:56
  But it said that for every person that dies, there'll be five to
• 27:00
  10 more comorbidities created.
• 27:03
  Ah.
• 27:03
  W- those people will die outside the framework of the study.
• 27:09
  So every study has to have a framework, how long are we gonna study?
• 27:12
  And UCLA was 11 years.
• 27:15
  You could develop a comorbidity.
• 27:16
  I'm a little kid, I'm outside playing, soccer, and I breathe
• 27:19
  some of this stuff in and it kinda triggers a comorbidity in me.
• 27:23
  So now I'm 25 years old and I'm getting married, and then the
• 27:26
  comorbidity manifests and I die of a, an autoimmune disease.
• 27:30
  Yeah.
• 27:30
  I develop lupus or I'll develop some other thing and I die.
• 27:35
  And so the super computer said there's five to 10 more cases that are gonna
• 27:39
  be outside the framework of the study, and those people will die later.
• 27:45
  Or ear- they'll die young.
• 27:47
  And the impact of that, according to the computer, was $1.5 trillion a year.
• 27:54
  Gee.
• 27:54
  The government- And, and-
• 27:55
  is not paying attention here
• 27:56
  … how many deaths are we gonna have?
• 27:57
  How many deaths-
• 27:59
  You could do the math.
• 28:00
  It- we're already talking 36,000.
• 28:02
  If we go with the low end of comorbidities, five people.
• 28:05
  For everyone that dies in the, within the framework of the study, there's
• 28:09
  five more comorbidities on the low end, five to 10 the computer said.
• 28:13
  It w- it's just five to one, so it'd be 150,000 roughly a year.
• 28:20
  So- And that's being- … but they'll,
• 28:21
  It's been hidden from us, yeah.
• 28:23
  Yeah
• 28:23
  … that's the math, guys.
• 28:24
  150,000 in the hundred, hundred plus million-
• 28:29
  But, well-
• 28:30
  Wow.
• 28:31
  Big damage.
• 28:32
  And I just don't wanna sit here and make people feel bad or there's
• 28:35
  no hope, because that's not the truth, there is a lot of hope here.
• 28:38
  We have a lot of hope.
• 28:40
  But s- the key- We
• 28:41
  just need the workers out there to start doing their job like they've
• 28:43
  been doing for millions of years.
• 28:45
  Well- You told me that on another show that, they've been lying to us.
• 28:49
  They said, "Oh, yeah, the Spanish came over and some horses got away, and
• 28:52
  that's why we have all these horses."
• 28:54
  They lie.
• 28:55
  They knew that.
• 28:56
  We've had horses here for millions of years.
• 28:58
  Why do they lie like that?
• 29:01
  Money.
• 29:02
  It's all about the money.
• 29:04
  And, b- here's the thing, the livestock industry has gotten too greedy.
• 29:09
  Oh, yeah.
• 29:09
  And and unfortunately most of them are not highly educated.
• 29:12
  They're- Yeah … I'm not say- I'm not…
• 29:14
  I'm a cowboy, I grew up in the livestock industry, FFA.
• 29:17
  I went to college, but I was pro- I'm probably in the minority of
• 29:22
  ranchers, 'cause most ranchers don't have a college degree.
• 29:26
  They're, they, they just know how to grow cows and sell 'em fatted cows and
• 29:29
  get, make a profit, and that's the, kind of the limit of their expertise.
• 29:33
  If you sit down and you wanna talk about, pyrochemistry or climatology
• 29:37
  or organic chemistry or any, physics or any of those things, they have
• 29:41
  no, no knowledge of those subjects.
• 29:44
  But those are all subjects critical to life on Earth.
• 29:48
  And in fact, for your own health, okay?
• 29:51
  Sun Tzu and some of the other great warriors, and I know you've read The
• 29:54
  Art of War- Oh, yeah … the key to survival is knowing the trap exists.
• 29:59
  That's the key to avoiding the trap.
• 30:01
  You have to first know it exists to avoid it.
• 30:05
  And right now I'm pointing out this stuff, not to make people feel bad
• 30:10
  or hopeless, I'm pointing 'em out to say, "Look, here's the trap.
• 30:14
  Now, we know how to get around it, and the way we get around it
• 30:19
  is we reestablish this herbivory.
• 30:21
  That's how we get around the trap.
• 30:23
  That's how we d- that's how we devolve catastrophic fire.
• 30:26
  We can push it back, but see, now we're fighting demonetization.
• 30:31
  All these people that look forward to the fire season, I got people right
• 30:34
  in my own community that are sitting here twisting their mustaches and
• 30:38
  looking at their checkbooks going, "Yeah, I'm gonna make a lot of money.
• 30:41
  I got a bunch of heavy equipment and a water truck.
• 30:43
  I'm gonna get rich this summer." That kind of thinking is gonna kill a lot of people.
• 30:50
  That is gonna kill a lot of people.
• 30:52
  And people like you, our veterans who laid down their lives, we just
• 30:56
  celebrated Memorial Day, people are out there trying to save life by
• 31:01
  keeping evil away from our country.
• 31:03
  We wanna, you don't wanna have to fight a war on your own sh- country,
• 31:07
  on your own soil, because we know how bad that is from the Civil War.
• 31:12
  We don't wanna repeat any war on our soil.
• 31:16
  If you gotta have a war, and I hate war, but if you're gonna have a war, you
• 31:19
  don't wanna have it on your own backyard.
• 31:22
  Absolutely.
• 31:22
  That's for sure.
• 31:24
  And so the k- the bottom line here is we're pointing out these very real risks
• 31:30
  to everybody's health, and to the health of our children and grandchildren,
• 31:34
  and our own sustainability as far as staying alive on this planet and having
• 31:38
  a lifestyle, part of the American dream.
• 31:41
  Why are we even working if we can't get the gold ring at the end of our
• 31:46
  retirement, if we're gonna be dead?
• 31:48
  We don't wa- I don't wanna be subservient to some big corporation,
• 31:53
  some fat cat somewhere that's got a 737 for his personal jet.
• 31:57
  I'm sorry, but that's not who I'm gonna be.
• 32:00
  I swore an oath to defend the Constitution so that we can all have our freedoms and
• 32:04
  the right and ability to live the life that our Constitution guaranteed for
• 32:10
  the Americans, not just for the elite.
• 32:13
  It doesn't apply just to the elite.
• 32:15
  It's all of us.
• 32:17
  Yeah.
• 32:17
  We're all in the same boat together, and if we don't pull together very
• 32:19
  soon, we're all gonna be dead.
• 32:22
  If we don't start c- getting together, and putting aside the petty bull-
• 32:27
  baloney disagreements, and realize what, who the real enemy is, okay?
• 32:34
  It's the people who put money ahead of our own lives.
• 32:37
  That's the enemy.
• 32:39
  Yeah.
• 32:39
  It's not us.
• 32:40
  It's not… and the c- ranchers hate horse people, and horse people hate ranchers.
• 32:44
  That's gotta go away.
• 32:45
  We don't need to have that fight.
• 32:47
  The government loves that fight, 'cause it keeps us divided against each other.
• 32:51
  The, we don't need to have that fight, okay?
• 32:53
  And my plan, the Wild Horse Fire Brigade, it says a big long name,
• 32:56
  the Natural Wildfire Abatement and Forest Protection Plan.
• 32:59
  That's what the insurance industry calls it.
• 33:02
  If the horses are in the way somewhere, okay, good.
• 33:04
  Let's move them.
• 33:05
  Load them up and we'll dr- drop them off in the wilderness.
• 33:08
  You never see them again.
• 33:09
  Problem solved.
• 33:11
  But the problem we have is that everybody knows that our plan reduces fire.
• 33:20
  They know it.
• 33:21
  It's a fact.
• 33:23
  And when I talk to people about reducing fire, it's like I'm talking about
• 33:28
  taking money out of their wallet now.
• 33:33
  And that, we got, that mentality's gotta be ended.
• 33:36
  We have to condemn that mentality.
• 33:40
  Reducing fire has to be the emphasis.
• 33:42
  That means prevention.
• 33:43
  Firefighting comes after the disaster's happening.
• 33:46
  We're talking about prevention.
• 33:48
  So what, on the Caldor fire scar in Tahoe there You had a big fire because you
• 33:54
  don't have the herbivore you had before.
• 33:56
  20 years ago, you didn't see those kind of fires up by Tahoe.
• 34:00
  No.
• 34:00
  You saw different kinds of fires that burned low and slow.
• 34:04
  And, 'cause you guys have fire-evolved conifers up there.
• 34:08
  So your conifers evolved in North America-
• 34:12
  Yeah
• 34:12
  … for millions of years with fire.
• 34:15
  Fire is not new.
• 34:17
  But it's different now.
• 34:18
  It's 'cause it's hotter because we wiped out the mo- lawnmowers.
• 34:22
  Nature had lawnmowers, the deer and the elk, and they'd mow the
• 34:26
  grass and brush down so when fire burned, it burned low and slow.
• 34:31
  So we have an opportunity now to restore our herbivory,
• 34:36
  and we start with the horses.
• 34:38
  The horses aren't the silver bullet, but it's the first
• 34:41
  thing we can do immediately.
• 34:43
  Tactically, you gotta do what's quick and the the first step.
• 34:48
  What can I do quick to slow this down while I figure out the next step?
• 34:52
  The next step is, of course, bringing back the deer and the elk, but
• 34:55
  that's gonna take 10, 20 years.
• 34:57
  We're gonna be gone by then.
• 34:59
  The smoke is gonna kill a whole bunch of us and our friends.
• 35:02
  The forests are gonna be burned to the ground, and they're never gonna
• 35:05
  come back 'cause when you burn the forest this hot, it damages the soil.
• 35:09
  And now they're talking about putting glyphosate on the soil,
• 35:13
  which really kills the soil.
• 35:16
  The thing about glyphosate is it kills the co- cover crop that you need to stabilize
• 35:24
  the soil, which protects from erosion.
• 35:26
  Those roots and all the things in, that live in the soil, all the little critters,
• 35:30
  there's all kinds of microbi- bacteria and mycelium and little tiny microbes.
• 35:35
  And all those little guys are down there and what they do is they
• 35:38
  take inorganic minerals and they chelate 'em into plant food, okay?
• 35:44
  So and when you go to the vitamin store, if you want a
• 35:47
  high-quality mineral, it's chelated.
• 35:49
  So when you buy calcium carbonate 'cause you wanna make your bones strong,
• 35:53
  you've just made a mistake because you're just gonna poop it right out.
• 35:56
  Your body can't absorb calcium carbonate.
• 35:59
  But if you get calcium citrate it's chelated to an organic acid.
• 36:05
  That's like a trailer hitch for your body, for your enzymes and
• 36:08
  things to grab onto that calcium molecule and drag it into the cell.
• 36:13
  The citric acid that they attach to the calcium is a trailer hitch,
• 36:17
  so your body can grab it and drag it where it wants to use it.
• 36:20
  But if you just do calcium carbonate, nah, can't use it.
• 36:24
  You just poop it right out.
• 36:25
  You just spent a lot of money for a bottle of nothing.
• 36:28
  You might as well go get some coral reef and eat that because it's the same thing.
• 36:32
  So the plants need chelated- Minerals, okay?
• 36:38
  Plants, trees, grasses, all those things, 'cause that feeds everything
• 36:42
  else in the circle of life.
• 36:43
  The birds, the elk, the deer.
• 36:46
  You can't bring back the deer in Tahoe if you're killing the forage with glyphosate-
• 36:53
  … That the deer need.
• 36:54
  The hunters ought to be outraged by this.
• 36:57
  I have hunters who don't, who've been brainwashed by the BLM by the way.
• 37:01
  I have hunters going, Bill, if you put horses they're gonna
• 37:04
  eat all the food the deer need."
• 37:06
  That's not true.
• 37:07
  That's false.
• 37:08
  That's absolutely false.
• 37:09
  Hansen and Lawhorn did a study, it was like 10 years ago.
• 37:14
  It's called the The Foods of the Deer and the Elk.
• 37:18
  The Foods of Deer, Elk, and Wild Horses.
• 37:20
  They did a s- seven-year study.
• 37:22
  It was a multi-agency study.
• 37:23
  Forest Service, Davis, the Cal Fish and Wildlife.
• 37:26
  They found that deer and horses have a 1% grazing overlap.
• 37:31
  Cattle and deer have a 4% grazing overlap
• 37:37
  Okay, I'm gonna repeat that so the audience can focus.
• 37:39
  This is Hansen and Lawhorn, they can go look it up.
• 37:42
  Okay, they did a seven-year study.
• 37:45
  Horses only have a 1% grazing overlap with deer Cattle have
• 37:51
  a 4% grazing overlap with deer.
• 37:54
  They eat four times as much as what the deer needs and the horses do.
• 37:58
  So see, the thing is they continually lie to the public to
• 38:02
  drive an agenda that's about money.
• 38:06
  It has nothing to do about protecting our lives or sustainable logging or
• 38:09
  sustainable fishing or sustainable forestry or any of those things,
• 38:14
  or even sustainable hunting.
• 38:15
  Now they wanna put glyphosate on the ground all over the place in
• 38:20
  Tahoe, and that's gonna damage… You won't have a cover crop because
• 38:24
  glyphosate kills everything.
• 38:26
  It's not, it's an indiscriminate killer.
• 38:29
  Okay?
• 38:29
  It's gonna kill the microbes in the soil that make plant food,
• 38:32
  it's gonna kill the cover crop.
• 38:33
  So when you rain, when you get rain, you're gonna get erosion, you're gonna
• 38:37
  get sedimentation into Lake Tahoe.
• 38:39
  You're gonna get chemicals into Tahoe, into the lake.
• 38:42
  It's gonna end up in your water supply.
• 38:45
  And this is just adding insult to injury.
• 38:48
  The fire was bad enough because it's their fault to begin with.
• 38:51
  They will let the deer get wiped out.
• 38:53
  That fire wouldn't have been like that if there was an adequate deer population.
• 38:57
  It would've burned low and slow, all the trees-
• 38:59
  Even worse by putting the gly- glyphosate down instead of bringing
• 39:03
  in- Yeah … how many wild horses do you think could manage this?
• 39:06
  How many would it take?
• 39:07
  It, y- we'd have to come in there because right now there's nothing growing there.
• 39:12
  So see, horses will reseed that area by the way.
• 39:15
  Glyphosate can't reseed it with glyphosate.
• 39:17
  You can't.
• 39:18
  Okay?
• 39:18
  So the horses will reseed it.
• 39:20
  And the interesting thing, if you're gonna plant little conifers, horses
• 39:24
  don't eat conifers because the terpene profile is very distasteful.
• 39:29
  Terpene is a very distasteful thing.
• 39:32
  Horses won't eat conifers 'cause of the terpenes.
• 39:35
  And so you put horses in there, they'll graze down the cover
• 39:40
  crop and keep it managed, but they won't graze it down to zero.
• 39:44
  Glyphosate takes it to the dirt.
• 39:46
  They'll… Horses will eat some and they'll leave a lot for the deer
• 39:50
  and the elk so they can recover.
• 39:52
  You need your deer and elk to recover.
• 39:54
  That's gonna take 10 years or so.
• 39:56
  Wow.
• 39:56
  But the horses will be there in the meantime ma- lawn mowing.
• 39:59
  They'll do the, they'll do the landscaping for you.
• 40:02
  Yeah.
• 40:02
  They'll reseed it, they'll reduce your erosion, and they'll minimize
• 40:06
  wildfires in Tahoe's area.
• 40:09
  And we could actually put geldings up there so you don't
• 40:11
  even have a breeding herd.
• 40:12
  The BLM's got like 40,000 geldings which are just big lazy lawnmowers.
• 40:17
  Geldings, all they wanna do is take naps and eat.
• 40:20
  I know 'cause- … I have 100 of them.
• 40:23
  Okay?
• 40:23
  I know what they do.
• 40:24
  I have, we we don't have 100.
• 40:26
  We have 100 wild horses we saved, and about 50 of them are
• 40:29
  geldings, 50 of them are mares.
• 40:30
  Some of those are sterilized.
• 40:32
  But we've studied the geldings extensively and they just walk around and graze and
• 40:36
  then they go take a nap under a tree.
• 40:38
  They don't make any trouble.
• 40:39
  They don't want trouble But they're beautiful too because
• 40:43
  they draw tourism into the area.
• 40:45
  Exactly.
• 40:45
  What better- So they
• 40:46
  can have beautiful lawnmowers instead of, like-
• 40:48
  What better
• 40:48
  than-
• 40:48
  crazy cattle that come in and just destroy everything.
• 40:52
  Now you said in your your your scientific evidence in your article, glyphosate
• 40:58
  application after fires removes the very plants whose roots hold soil in place.
• 41:03
  Now you said this earlier, but I wanna have everybody understand that.
• 41:07
  So if you're gonna put that in, into, like you said, the, to take
• 41:12
  out the herbivores, which is stupid.
• 41:15
  You want the herbivores to come back so that the deer come back and, in
• 41:19
  the meantime you can have the the deer co- or the horses, wild horses
• 41:22
  come in and start to manage that.
• 41:24
  Now would you have to actually feed the horses a little bit at first?
• 41:29
  What they would do is, is- There
• 41:31
  they move around.
• 41:32
  Yeah.
• 41:32
  They move around, so they would graze… you have a lot of fuel in the other
• 41:36
  parts of the forest by the scar, right?
• 41:38
  So the out- Yeah … just outside the Caldor fire scar-
• 41:41
  Yeah
• 41:41
  … you got grass and brush growing right now, and they want to
• 41:44
  put more glyphosate on that.
• 41:46
  So instead of that, the horses will graze on the outer edges of the
• 41:49
  scar, but then they'll walk across the scar and poop out seeds- Yeah
• 41:52
  and fertilize the ground again.
• 41:54
  Perfect.
• 41:54
  And their poop contains microbiome, so that's what the soil needs.
• 41:58
  It needs microbiome.
• 42:00
  That's what people put in their gardens.
• 42:01
  They buy microbiome to make their gardens and their vegetables more lush.
• 42:05
  So they'll walk around.
• 42:06
  They'll poop on that, and you can actually…
• 42:09
  we've done a lot of research up here and I can feed my horses the seeds that I
• 42:13
  want them to poop out on my landscape.
• 42:15
  So I wanted to start having seed that would be good for my ground birds, my,
• 42:20
  my pheasants and my turkeys and my quail.
• 42:23
  So I've been feeding my horses oats, whole oats, natural whole oats.
• 42:28
  Now, some of them they digest, but a lot of them come out in their poop and
• 42:31
  grow, 'cause horses are lousy digesters.
• 42:34
  90, about 90% of the seeds they eat come out in the poop and grow.
• 42:38
  Nice.
• 42:38
  That doesn't happen with ruminants.
• 42:40
  Yeah.
• 42:41
  Ruminants, cow, sheep, goats, deer and elk, they chew a cud, so when they eat
• 42:45
  seeded plants, they bu- burp up the cud.
• 42:47
  They chew it over and over again like bubblegum.
• 42:50
  That crushes the seeds.
• 42:51
  So the seeds, their digestion is very good, so very few
• 42:55
  seeds survive all of that.
• 42:56
  But with a horse, no.
• 42:58
  A lot of seeds come out and grow like crazy.
• 43:00
  So you can actually, we can actually take and manage some geldings in there.
• 43:05
  So you get tourism, because you got beautiful wild horses.
• 43:08
  You got lawnmowers that keep it down.
• 43:10
  You got automatic gardeners that reseed and fertilize for you, and
• 43:14
  you don't need any chemicals at all.
• 43:16
  And oh, by the way, it's free because th- they do it for free.
• 43:20
  We get the horses for free to do it from the government.
• 43:22
  They gotta give them to you if you ask for them under the Humane
• 43:25
  Transfer of Excess Animal act.
• 43:27
  Any government agency can request them from the BLM, and they
• 43:31
  gotta give them to you for free.
• 43:32
  And so you get them, and you put them there.
• 43:34
  And then if they get injured or a lion eats them, that, that's just
• 43:39
  life, because they've been eaten by lions for a million years.
• 43:42
  That's natural selection.
• 43:44
  But they don't sue you.
• 43:45
  They don't need unemployment.
• 43:46
  They don't need retirement.
• 43:48
  The, And then if you lose a few, you just get more from the government,
• 43:52
  'cause they got 70,000 in a government prison that we all pay
• 43:57
  $100 million a year plus to feed hay.
• 44:02
  So this is a cash, this is a cost negative program, Michael.
• 44:07
  It's cost negative
• 44:08
  Maybe.
• 44:08
  Now there's another proven natural alternative wild horse fire brigade model.
• 44:13
  And you talk about the Klamathon Fire 2018.
• 44:16
  Tell us a little bit about that, how the herd basically, 200 heritage
• 44:20
  wild horses that naturally graze and maintain a 5,000 acre fire resilient
• 44:24
  landscape, and the fire basically came up to that and stopped, and
• 44:28
  it saved Ashland, Oral- Oregon
• 44:32
  Yeah, that's correct.
• 44:33
  So we had this 38,000 acre windblown inferno.
• 44:38
  And by the way, it was intensely burning right over the land that cattle were on.
• 44:43
  Okay?
• 44:44
  It's just like the big fire we saw in Oklahoma and Kansas of
• 44:47
  almost a million acres of fires that killed thousands of cattle.
• 44:51
  It burned their, burned the forage and killed all the cows.
• 44:55
  Wow.
• 44:55
  Thousands of cows have been burned in wildfires up in, in Montana and in Kansas.
• 45:01
  In Oregon they lost 300,000 cows in a big fire.
• 45:04
  Or th- I'm sorry, 3,000 cows in a fire in Southern Oregon,
• 45:07
  South- Southeastern Oregon.
• 45:09
  These fires this mentality that cows are the answer is absolutely not true.
• 45:16
  It's not true.
• 45:17
  Now, I'm n- I'm not against livestock grazing.
• 45:19
  I think we need it.
• 45:20
  We gotta produce beef, but we gotta do it intelligently.
• 45:23
  We can't sell livestock grazing as the silver bullet for all of our
• 45:26
  wildfire problems, because you can't put cattle into the wilderness.
• 45:30
  Cattle would be a disaster up around Tahoe.
• 45:32
  Nobody pays money, tourists don't pay money to come see cows.
• 45:36
  They don't.
• 45:37
  Yeah.
• 45:37
  But they do pay money, there's a lot of studies that show they pay millions of
• 45:41
  dollars a year to come see wild horses.
• 45:43
  Heck yeah.
• 45:43
  And they come from outside the United States even to see them.
• 45:46
  Yeah, I
• 45:47
  bet.
• 45:47
  So
• 45:48
  yeah.
• 45:48
  Yeah, so the horses th- the thing is this is a no-brainer.
• 45:52
  And we just- … gotta get people to stand up and say, "Okay, let's
• 45:57
  do this." But the Calamath on fire was 38,000 acres, windblown and an
• 46:02
  inferno, and I was on the fire line nine days watching what happened.
• 46:06
  The, by the way, wild horses are not afraid of fire.
• 46:08
  Why?
• 46:09
  They were here before the Spanish even came with their domestic horses,
• 46:13
  and they saw volcanoes ru- erupting.
• 46:15
  They saw lava.
• 46:16
  They saw fire.
• 46:17
  They saw it.
• 46:17
  So like Bruce Lipton says in The Biology of Belief, there's epigenetic expression.
• 46:23
  When you have generations that experience a certain condition- … the progeny
• 46:27
  know about it without training.
• 46:29
  That's why my cattle dog, I didn't train my cattle dog to, to herd.
• 46:33
  Out of the box he knew how to do it instinctively.
• 46:36
  That's epigenetic expression.
• 46:38
  Wow.
• 46:38
  Because his ancestors were trained, and it became a genetic trait.
• 46:43
  Horses, wild horses are not afraid of fire.
• 46:45
  I watched them during the fire.
• 46:46
  They would look up, they'd be about 100 yards away grazing.
• 46:49
  They'd look up, and- Wow
• 46:50
  if the fire kept moving toward them, they'd move away a little
• 46:52
  bit and just kept eating.
• 46:53
  They weren't panicked at all.
• 46:55
  Domestic horses that are-
• 46:57
  They're confused.
• 46:57
  They're, oh, man, it's gonna stop.
• 46:58
  It's gonna stop at their land.
• 46:59
  They're in safe safe land.
• 47:01
  They know that from, like you're talking about, genetics.
• 47:04
  They've been there, done this for millions of years.
• 47:07
  Wow.
• 47:07
  Cal Fire w-
• 47:08
  So could wild horses actually graze with cattle and have an effect where there
• 47:13
  wouldn't be fires that would sweep across and just burn a heck out of cattle?
• 47:17
  I think the cattle guys wanna have their cattle grazing to
• 47:20
  themselves, and that's fine.
• 47:22
  I hear what you're saying and there are people into regenerative farming
• 47:27
  that actually graze horses with lives- with cattle together because they know
• 47:31
  the horses re-seed so that there'll be plants next year for the cattle, right?
• 47:35
  But those people are progressive thinkers-
• 47:37
  Kind of like crop rotation.
• 47:38
  You'd have cattle in a la- in an area for a while, and then you bring in the
• 47:41
  horses and, just rotate them, right?
• 47:44
  Yeah, they're doing… Or they just co-mingle them together.
• 47:47
  But the- That's what I was- … the thing is the livestock… Yeah, the, yeah.
• 47:51
  A lot of people do that now.
• 47:52
  It's, but that's real forward-thinking.
• 47:54
  You're a smart guy, so you're out there on the cutting edge.
• 47:57
  I- A
• 47:57
  lot of the ranchers-
• 47:58
  I learned from you.
• 47:59
  And I, it, I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm a knuckle dragger, but I can, I'm
• 48:02
  observant and I can learn quickly.
• 48:04
  So I hope everybody in the audience is doing the same.
• 48:08
  I'm having a, I'm having difficulty.
• 48:10
  There's people that are just stuck in their barnyard myths- Yeah … and
• 48:14
  they don't want to evolve mentally.
• 48:15
  They don't wanna be plugged in to the data.
• 48:19
  And and but if we don't, like right here last year we had a fire come out
• 48:24
  of Scott Valley that almost destroyed Etna and it burned a lot of graze.
• 48:28
  It burn, a lot of brows got burned that are not gonna be
• 48:32
  available at the end of that year.
• 48:34
  So going into the winter, a lot of that l, it's lower quality grazing, but it's gone.
• 48:39
  It was not available 'cause it all burned.
• 48:40
  The thing is greed, when you get too greedy, it ends up- Yeah
• 48:44
  biting you in the butt.
• 48:46
  It bites you in the butt.
• 48:48
  Well- And when we
• 48:48
  ought
• 48:48
  to-
• 48:49
  … we also see our, in our in my audience, I have someone named Janet, and she's
• 48:52
  Northern California cattle woman.
• 48:55
  And she said that all the deer and wild horses, they should be protected.
• 49:00
  She says the horse, the cattlemen and the horse guys, they all get along.
• 49:05
  There is possibility that people get it just having to have
• 49:08
  the little bit of education.
• 49:10
  It's like in their best interest.
• 49:12
  Do you want to keep- Yeah … your cattle if there's a fire,
• 49:14
  or do you want them to die?
• 49:16
  It's I wanna keep them." Okay, this is what you do.
• 49:18
  It's just very simple.
• 49:19
  You do
• 49:20
  yeah, and we don't have all that many horses left yet, Michael.
• 49:23
  Yeah.
• 49:23
  All in with the ones that are out there on the range that are still like in conflict
• 49:27
  with some of the ranchers in Nevada and Colorado and Utah and Montana, there's
• 49:32
  about 40, 50,000 left on the open range.
• 49:35
  Half of those are sterilized already.
• 49:37
  Oh
• 49:37
  my God.
• 49:37
  And then we got about s- we got about 60,000 in government holding, 60, 70,000.
• 49:44
  All in we only have 100,000 horses.
• 49:46
  We have
• 49:46
  eight- why does the government round them up and keep them
• 49:49
  in these pens and feed them?
• 49:53
  Two, two reasons.
• 49:55
  One, it creates more grazing for the livestock industry.
• 49:57
  That means money.
• 49:59
  And two, the government knows they're a native species.
• 50:03
  They know that, and they don't, they never say it, but they know it's true.
• 50:07
  They evolved here 55 million years ago, and they've always been here.
• 50:11
  They never went extinct, not totally.
• 50:14
  And the Spanish brought additional horses.
• 50:16
  That's the true story.
• 50:17
  And they're different horses.
• 50:18
  They're big.
• 50:20
  Spanish horses are cavalry horses.
• 50:21
  They're 12, 1400 pounds.
• 50:23
  Wild horses are 7, 800 pounds.
• 50:25
  Most of our horses up here, you can't put more than 160 pounds on their back.
• 50:29
  That's it.
• 50:30
  Okay?
• 50:31
  The cavalry horse has gotta carry 300 pounds, 400 pounds.
• 50:35
  So they're, they brought different horses.
• 50:37
  So it was both.
• 50:38
  It wasn't one or the other, it was both.
• 50:40
  This here was… But we were down to about 100,000, and because of
• 50:44
  that, okay, they are technically an endangered species today, right now.
• 50:50
  They should be red listed, legitimately red listed on the Endangered Species Act.
• 50:56
  They're not.
• 50:57
  And the reason they, they keep saying they're invasive and all these lies
• 51:00
  that the BLM keeps putting out there is because when you have an endangered
• 51:03
  species on public land where you wanna do gas, mineral oil extraction, and
• 51:08
  livestock grazing, that's a problem.
• 51:11
  That's a problem for the corporate heads that run the country here.
• 51:15
  If you got endangered species out there, holy moly, it's gonna cost you a lot more
• 51:20
  money to do whatever it is you wanna do.
• 51:22
  If you wanna do any kind of mining or extraction industry with an
• 51:25
  endangered species on the landscape, you can almost forget about it, right?
• 51:30
  So that's why they condemn them and lie about them, because they wanna
• 51:34
  monetize all these public lands.
• 51:36
  I say, fine, just move the horses where they do good.
• 51:40
  There isn't that many.
• 51:42
  Where we can put them where you never see them again-
• 51:45
  Before we get glyphosate in our water, and we're swimming in it, and it's
• 51:48
  gonna take down our cellular structure.
• 51:50
  So we already have a problem.
• 51:51
  Exactly.
• 51:52
  They found that back in the day, they used to take cars and just dump them
• 51:55
  into Lake Tahoe instead of taking them down to Reno and, having them collected.
• 51:59
  So they would save a lot of money.
• 52:01
  They'd just dump old cars into Lake Tahoe.
• 52:03
  Of course, the the, mafia used to dump bodies into Lake Tahoe.
• 52:07
  So there's they're talking about how 'cause it's so cold, it, they preser- they
• 52:12
  pr- they're preserved for a long time.
• 52:14
  But- now we're starting to see some of that, start to come up and, pollute
• 52:18
  the water a little bit here and there.
• 52:20
  And so we don't need more.
• 52:22
  I think you, there's one, you talk about in the study where Lake
• 52:25
  Tahoe used to have 110 feet back in the '60s as far as visibility.
• 52:30
  Now it's down to 65 because, they're the top soil is running into the
• 52:34
  lake and so forth because the herbivores are not doing their job.
• 52:39
  And then the fires come in and just wipe everything out,
• 52:41
  and that gets into the water.
• 52:43
  It's a mess.
• 52:45
  It is.
• 52:46
  It, we can do better easily.
• 52:48
  And it's the wild horses, hello
• 52:52
  . Yeah.
• 52:52
  And we built America off our, off the backs of these horses.
• 52:55
  We fought wars with them.
• 52:56
  I read a s- story about Sergeant Reckless, a US Marine horse in Korea.
• 53:02
  He took 9,000 pounds of ammunitions up a hill to s- to support an effort on
• 53:07
  this war, and he saved soldiers' lives by acting as a shield for their bodies.
• 53:13
  He was wounded in battle.
• 53:14
  He got two Purple Hearts.
• 53:16
  Oh.
• 53:16
  This is a horse.
• 53:18
  One of many horse heroes.
• 53:19
  In fact, he's in, he's g- he's actually written up in in America's top 100
• 53:23
  heroes- Wow … is Sergeant Reckless.
• 53:26
  And a US Marine Corps horse.
• 53:28
  And they have a monument down for him I think at 29 Palms.
• 53:32
  Yeah.
• 53:32
  But anyway.
• 53:33
  Yeah, we've had a lot of that history with our horses.
• 53:37
  And, we, that's why President Nixon protected them in '71.
• 53:40
  We owe them everything.
• 53:42
  Sure.
• 53:42
  It's that simple.
• 53:43
  So if we lose our morals, if we lose our loyalty, if we have no camaraderie,
• 53:48
  if we keep fighting ridiculous fights, and if everything's about money first
• 53:52
  and everything second, we're toast.
• 53:55
  We're toast.
• 53:55
  As a human race, we're done.
• 53:56
  We're wiped out.
• 53:57
  We're already wiped out.
• 53:58
  We're just walking dead right now.
• 54:00
  Or we can start being smart and start doing some things that
• 54:04
  are gonna change the outcome for ourselves and our families.
• 54:09
  Yeah.
• 54:09
  I play this, I think, a little piece of this in a, another show, but
• 54:13
  it's worth showing a little bit.
• 54:14
  It's an eight-minute documentary.
• 54:15
  I'm a- I'm gonna sh- show a couple minutes of it.
• 54:18
  AM Best really good documentary.
• 54:21
  So I think this basically highlights, how it's in everybody's best interest
• 54:24
  that we have the wild horses.
• 54:27
  So let me pull this up and roll this a little bit here.
• 54:39
  We take these horses and we put them back into the wilderness.
• 54:43
  We can see wildfire management and fuel reduction by these horses on one and a
• 54:49
  half million acres of selected lands.
• 54:56
  Wildfires continue to wreak havoc on insurers' bottom lines.
• 55:00
  Last year, a number of these catastrophic events, along with drought and heatwaves,
• 55:05
  accounted for approximately $18 billion in economic losses and nearly $9
• 55:10
  billion in insured losses, according to the Insurance Information Institute.
• 55:16
  In 2022, there were more than 66,000 wildfires in the United States, 26 of
• 55:22
  which reached natural disaster status.
• 55:25
  I'm Laurie Cortes for AM Best TV.
• 55:28
  The California nonprofit, Wild Horse Fire Brigade, hopes to drive down those
• 55:33
  losses and mitigate catastrophic wildfires with its natural wildfire abatement
• 55:38
  and forest protection plan that relies on the help of an unlikely resource.
• 55:43
  Wildfires require three key ingredients: oxygen, fuel, and an ignition source.
• 55:50
  Wind does not fuel a fire.
• 55:53
  Fuel fuels the fire.
• 55:55
  In this case, we're talking about grass and brush.
• 55:58
  We cannot change the oxygen content of the air, nor can we control ignition sources
• 56:04
  such as lightning or human behavior.
• 56:06
  The one thing we can control are annually occurring grass and brush fuels using
• 56:11
  animals such as wild horses that eat grass and brush, also known as herbivores.
• 56:17
  In the Western United States, we have a very well-known collapse of the herbivore.
• 56:24
  We may be down as many as 3 million deer in California, and Oregon is
• 56:28
  down approximately 500,000 deer.
• 56:31
  When you have a collapse of the herbivory, catastrophic wildfire evolves.
• 56:35
  By reestablishing the herbivory, what we do is we start reducing these fuels,
• 56:39
  and we devolve catastrophic fires.
• 56:42
  Being able to do vegetation control targeted on ground fuels, both at
• 56:47
  the individual property level and at the community level, is the number
• 56:51
  one driver for decreasing risk.
• 56:54
  These big, robust animals, weighing 1,000 to 1,200 pounds,
• 56:58
  rub up against low-hanging limbs.
• 57:00
  They call those fire ladders.
• 57:01
  They break them off, and so basically, the tree is removed of all the low
• 57:06
  limbs, and they remove the grass under the tree because they're there under the
• 57:10
  tree resting, so they graze the grass.
• 57:12
  And they fertilize the tree with their droppings.
• 57:15
  So these trees are made fire-resilient
• 57:22
  Today in the United States, we have 60,000 American wild horses that have
• 57:26
  been captured off the wilderness and put into taxpayer-funded government
• 57:31
  holding, and we're feeding them the grass instead of leaving them where
• 57:34
  they're gonna do some good for societies.
• 57:37
  Each wild horse will eat about 30 pounds of grass and brush a day,
• 57:40
  about five and a half tons a year.
• 57:43
  In the last five years, from the insurance industry perspective, the losses have not
• 57:48
  only doubled and tripled, but they're 10, 20, 50-fold as high as they used to be.
• 57:53
  It used to average $700 million a year in losses in the '90s.
• 57:56
  Now the insurance industry pays on average seven billion.
• 58:00
  These wildfires are doubling year over year, even as we're almost
• 58:04
  quadrupling money spent to stop them.
• 58:06
  And fuel reduction-
• 58:08
  Wow.
• 58:09
  So it's incredible, the the, 10, 20, 50-fold increase.
• 58:14
  Wow.
• 58:16
  And there's a easy solution here that I don't see how there's a disconnect
• 58:21
  with people's brains, but obviously like we've talked about, somebody's
• 58:25
  making money and they're throwing out confusion and lies to the public
• 58:30
  to get them to believe that this is the way we mitigate these problems.
• 58:34
  So we… bill, you coming out and, speaking it's been fantastic.
• 58:39
  Tell people how they can get hold of you and plus you have good music.
• 58:43
  I w- I wish I could figure out how to, get you on so I could play your music.
• 58:46
  But maybe at some point we will, but I highly encourage everybody
• 58:49
  to go to the website and listen to that one video that you have there.
• 58:53
  It's beautiful
• 58:55
  Thank you.
• 58:56
  Yeah, so our organization, we're an all-volunteer non-profit.
• 59:00
  We're a 501[c][3], so all donations are tax deductible.
• 59:05
  It's Wild Horse Fire Brigade, so it's four words, Wild Horse Fire Brigade.
• 59:11
  And if they Google us, they can find us.
• 59:12
  It comes right up.
• 59:14
  If they wanna see that video you just showed, we have a dedicated site for
• 59:19
  the documentary videos about the fires.
• 59:22
  It's called Horse of Nature, so horseofnature.com.
• 59:27
  And people can go there and look at the documentaries including the one you
• 59:30
  just showed by the insurance industry.
• 59:32
  We're supported by generous people who give us donations and allow
• 59:36
  us to keep working the way we are.
• 59:37
  We're supporting a herd of 200 horses up here because they're
• 59:41
  our community's fire department.
• 59:43
  But they're not a fire department that acts after we're already
• 59:45
  suffering fire and smoke.
• 59:47
  They're out there working right now while we're talking, and
• 59:49
  they're mowing the lawn for free.
• 59:52
  Our herd of horses is mowing the lawn right now, and so if we have
• 59:56
  a fire up here this year, it's gonna burn low and slow, which
• 1:00:02
  is the fire you want, by the way.
• 1:00:04
  I'm not telling anybody we don't need fire.
• 1:00:06
  Act- actually, fire is cleansing in the forest if it's a proper temperature.
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  So when I was a, when I was young and we were logging back in the s-
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  late '60s, early '70s, '70s, the fires then burned low and slow.
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  You could walk right through the fire front.
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  You could jump right through it.
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  Today, the flames are 16 feet high off the grass and brush.
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  You can't… it's a, an inferno.
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  By restoring, the first step is we gotta get the remaining horses before they
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  go extinct, and they will go extinct if we keep going the way we are right
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  now with roundups and sterilization.
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  Our herd, by the way, is the largest naturally living herd of wild horses
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  in California, and probably- Wow … in the Western United States right now,
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  'cause it hasn't been treated with Gonacon and these horrible drugs.
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  It's- … by the way, they're treating our wild horses with
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  EPA-registered pesticides.
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  That's what the BLM is condoning.
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  The, and there's non-profits who don't like what we do because they're getting
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  funded from the BLM to run around and sterilize horses with these EPA-registered
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  pesticides And it's horrific.
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  It's like that movie Idiocracy.
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  Yeah.
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  I've got a John Wayne cup here that I drink my coffee out of,
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  and it says, "Life is hard.
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  It's even harder when you're stupid."
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  I love that.
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  You
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  know, that's- I love that
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  part.
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  That's- we had that rule at … that's a quote from John
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  Wayne … Steel.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  We got smart people out there.
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  We just need to all get together and go, "Look, enough is enough,
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  and let's end the baloney, and let's start doing the right stuff here."
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  Get these horses out there.
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  The fire guys are gonna have plenty of fire to go play with and make money.
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  But if we take it down even 5%, when you're talking 218 billion a year in
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  costs, and hundreds of lives this year based upon the Calif- the UCLA study
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  right here in my own county, Siskiyou County, based on the UCLA study on
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  premature deaths, we're gonna lose 100 of our friends and neighbors.
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  That's the minimum.
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  100 of our friends and neighbors will die prematurely this year.
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  Yeah.
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  And I pray to God it's nobody that is one of my friends or neighbors.
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  I- it's hard when you lose friends and family.
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  I know all about that.
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  Yeah.
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  But
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  our- we're gonna lose people.
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  We are gonna lose people, and I've told our board of supervisors
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  that, and they won't respond to me.
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  I get crickets.
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  I get crickets from them.
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  Yes.
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  And all they have to do is cooperate and collaborate.
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  I'm not asking them to give me $100 million.
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  I'm saying, "Look, we're gonna do this for free. We'll help the
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  county do it for free." Yeah.
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  And the horses are free.
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  You know- There's no money involved
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  … bill, I got the Frogman solution.
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  We- we'll tell them how this should work, and if they don't
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  accommodate Then we, we take 'em out.
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  No, we wouldn't do that Of
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  course.
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  We, you might have to bring in the team
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  … If they had that, then we, if that, they had that option.
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  I talked to someone on another show and this nurse, and she said
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  they were getting, $500,000 for every COVID death in a hospital.
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  And I was like, what if that was flipped?
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  Everyone that came in and had COVID and they s- they survived,
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  they get 500 million that way.
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  So we gotta flip this stupid into smart, and the smart way is get
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  those horses out there doing the work for us so we don't have to
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  die and have to pay all this money.
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  Hello.
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  God.
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  Come on.
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  Yeah, we shouldn't have to get froggy with them, right?
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  I like the way you think.
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  Yeah, very good.
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  All right great show as always.
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  I hope this makes an impact.
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  I'm definitely gonna donate, like always, and I hope everybody else is watching.
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  You give a little something.
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  I, it makes a difference.
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  God- It does
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  … come on.
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  It, it does.
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  It really.
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  I was able to buy a whole tr- three tons of hay for my old
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  horses, 'cause we have rare breeds.
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  We have rare ancient breeds up here.
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  Yeah.
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  So after your, after the show, we got $1,200 from your generous
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  donors, and I was able to buy thir- three tons of hay and feed my old
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  ladies and the old gals up here.
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  They're rare genes, and they always, they're always pregnant.
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  They got a little baby on the side nursing, 'cause that's the
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  regular progression of nature and it gives them more life.
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  It gives them a chance to live better.
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  We take good care of our herd.
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  We love 'em, and we take good care of 'em, and your, the generosity of your
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  supporters there made a difference.
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  That, it really made a difference, 'cause there was horses that got
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  some extra nutrition- … and that really helps our herd, and then
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  it helps me to then show people.
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  We, we educate people up here, too.
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  We had community, we had kids up here from That's right … one of
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  the elementary schools the other day.
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  We do, we tr- we're trying to help community.
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  I do this for free.
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  I'm 73.
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  I've already done my part for king and country and all of that.
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  I'm just trying- … to save people around me and my, and make
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  a place for the kids coming up.
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  That's it
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  Wow.
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  Thanks for sharing that, Bill.
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  Yeah, I have a… we have some very generous people that watch the show.
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  I… Thanks to everybody out there that did that.
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  That's amazing.
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  Yeah, thank you.
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  Now let- let's give some more so you can have double that mo- that amount.
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  That'd be great.
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  Yeah, Bill any- anything else that comes up like this glyphosate craziness that
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  they're trying to spring on us, like another emergency that has to happen?
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  There's no emergency here.
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  Put the wild horses there.
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  We have plenty of them.
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  BLM has tons of them.
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  They'll ship them up there if…
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  All you guys gotta do is say, "Hey bring them," 'cause we want to
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  save our soil, we want to save our land, we don't wanna pollute the
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  water here, and they'll bring them.
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  Hello.
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  Come on.
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  Geez.
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  The Chamber of Commerce ought to be behind this too, because the counties that have
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  wild horse tourism, they're bringing in millions of dollars a year in extra
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  income that they didn't have before.
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  Wow.
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  I have an RV park, I have an RV park down the road here.
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  It's Lazy Horse RV Park.
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  By the way, if people wanna come up and see our herd, they can make… They can
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  go on TripAdvisor, find Lazy Horse RV Park on Copco Road in Siskiyou County,
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  and they can stay there and see the herd.
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  They do.
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  It's a little, tiny RV park.
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  They do about a quarter million a year on horse tourism, just on the horses.
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  Wow.
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  The other… They do a half a million gross roughly.
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  The other half is for fishing and hiking, some of the other
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  things that happen up here.
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  But the horses draw a huge crowd.
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  Tahoe could be part of that revenue stream.
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  Hor- Wow … wild horse tourism is a revenue stream.
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  And they really d- people love these horses.
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  There's a love of these wild horses that you can c- monetize that.
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  Don't monetize fire that's killing people.
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  Yeah.
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  Monetize these beautiful animals
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  I know.
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  You, I don't have… How much the Caldor Fire cost, billy- billions or
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  hundreds of millions or whatever it cost.
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  Imagine putting that money into the wild horses and, these programs and
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  helping people and having, people come and see the horses and make more money.
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  Wow.
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  I would just wish- Yeah … we had a little time machine where we could s-
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  show people, "Okay, this is what would happen if the horses were here," and
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  then people would see their land and their farms and their cities saved.
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  "And this is what happens if you don't." And then we run it ahead in
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  time, and everything's wiped out.
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  Mike, we have that time machine because Colorado College came down here two
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  months before our big fire right here and- Oh, yeah … filmed the whole area.
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  Yeah.
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  The, and it's that Horse of Nature.
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  That, that documentary that they did two months before the fire is called
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  Fuel, Fire, and Wild Horses, where at that point I says, "Here's what's gonna
• 1:07:32
  happen if we have a fire, because the horses have the fuel down." Guess what?
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  Then comes the fire.
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  Everything I said in that documentary two months before the
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  fire, everything I said came true.
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  We saved the forest.
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  It didn't burn.
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  Our old growth conifer forest was saved, and the college town of
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  Ashland was on ready standby to go.
• 1:07:51
  They told them, "Put your stuff in your car and get ready to leave."
• 1:07:54
  That's how close they were to getting burned in Ashland, Oregon.
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  We stopped it because of the low fuels.
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  It allowed them to contain the fire.
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  The Cal Fire actually used the fire break from the horses to park
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  men and equipment in a safe zone.
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  The fire break from the horses became the safe zone, and we operated out of that.
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  I know, 'cause I was on the line nine days.
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  So-
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  Wow
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  … this is just a home run.
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  It is a home run, and we gotta do it.
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  We gotta… These people, they can make money.
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  They just have to coordinate with us, and we show them how
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  we all make even more money.
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  We can make more money.
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  There you go.
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  Beautiful, Bill.
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  So yeah, I'll put all these links in the description box so everybody's watching.
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  I already put them in the the chat, but you guys are watching it later
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  on it'll be in the description box, so you guys can go watch some
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  of these films and get motivated.
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  And then contact your civil servants and have them get busy.
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  And it… Get busy to make you guys money instead of having everything destroyed.
• 1:08:54
  Yeah … and your safety and your health destroyed.
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  Yeah it's a win-win, easy situation.
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  So let's get busy, guys.
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  All right, Bill, thanks so much for coming on.
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  Look forward to the next one.
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  And everybody that came in, thanks very much, and everybody that
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  donates, thank you even more, and we'll see you guys next time.
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  Thank you, Michael.