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He-man and the Masters of the Universe and Motuniverse · Ultimate Rewinds Podcast

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  [music]
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  We have the power.
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  So, welcome to the podcast. Today I have
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  an extremely
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  extremely pleasant surprise for
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  everybody out there. One of my favorite
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  YouTubers and somebody who is doing
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  something extraordinary in the Masters
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  of the Universe realm out there because
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  we're all big fans. Welcome to the
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  channel and the podcast. Jay over at
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  Mega J Retro. How you doing, brother?
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  >> How's it going, Lawrence? Good to see
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  you, brother.
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  >> So, I got to start off by saying this.
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  We talked a little backstage, but I have
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  been watching your YouTube channel since
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  the pandemic, probably before that with
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  um all the toy hunts you've done looking
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  for stuff. And the first thing before we
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  go any any further, I gotta say you have
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  to bring back the toy hunts, brother,
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  because I miss the little sounds you
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  used to do when you find things and all
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  the great stuff that you guys have in
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  Canada. I know it's it's tough right now
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  with the way the terrorists are and
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  stuff, but I got to tell you, man, some
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  of that content you put out like really
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  got me through that early part of CO and
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  beyond. So, we miss you out there. We
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  miss those hunts.
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  >> Yeah. You know what, Lawrence is crazy.
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  Uh, how many people tell me that they
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  miss the hunt? So, I I funnily enough
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  funnily enough uh I I today and uh the
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  the other day I went back to Toys R Us
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  and I was shocked. So, a lot of great
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  content coming coming back up. I
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  probably am going to do a uh a full uh
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  tour of a just, you know, we we'll we'll
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  talk about it right now. I'm probably
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  going to do a full tour of Toys R Us uh
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  for everybody that and the renovations
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  they've done, the changes that they made
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  uh as well as the fact that things are
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  happening here in Canada. And now it's
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  my understanding uh thanks to our good
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  friends at um at Toy Habits and other
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  resources that uh Toys R Us is going
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  forward with their plans in the United
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  States to open up 30 new flagship stores
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  hopefully and this is you know hopefully
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  uh before the holidays. So let's see if
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  that actually happens Lawrence because
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  that would be that would be crazy
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  wouldn't it?
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  >> I heard about that. So I wasn't sure how
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  that was going to work if it going to be
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  like the smaller stores that they have
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  now like they have them in like Macy's
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  stuff like that. a couple of like
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  smaller locations, one in New Jersey by
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  me, but um nothing crazy like like we
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  grew up with. But I I love watching your
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  videos, especially going to the Toys R
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  Us. Not only was I I was like really
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  like feeling for you because the prices
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  out there are crazy, which I remember
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  you showing, but uh just because you
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  also were getting things that I wasn't
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  seeing in stores out here at the time
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  either, like when the original MOTU
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  origins came out, like you guys got them
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  first before I even saw them on shelves.
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  So that was a real treat for me.
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  >> It is. It is. Uh it's funny how things
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  go circ everything's cyclical, right?
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  Everything goes what goes around comes
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  around. So yeah, we were getting them
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  first sometimes. Sometimes we're getting
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  them a little bit later. Uh but as it is
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  right now because the MOTUS just hasn't
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  been really moving the way it has uh in
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  the US um finding something so finding
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  something on the shelves now is is very
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  very far and few between. But yeah, I
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  mean like um we were getting some cool
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  stuff and even even now we started to
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  get some cool stuff like sometimes um I
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  would find especially at Toys R Us I
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  would find some like GI Joe classifies
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  like the barness was sold out everywhere
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  at Targets and such right and all of a
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  sudden she was showing up at Toys R Us
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  in like droves and people were going
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  nuts every time I found one people would
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  be like oh how dare you and people get
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  pissed and you know it was it was these
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  crazy times bet and again the pandemic
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  didn't help. Everyone was like what are
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  you doing out you should be indoors. I'm
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  like, "Whatever, man. Like, if they let
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  me out to go to go grocery shopping, I'm
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  going to see if they let me into Toys R
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  Us." So, I was like, you know, I got
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  into Toys R Us and and I did my thing.
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  And, you know, people some people are
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  happy, some people are a little bit, you
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  know, just like, how'd you get that?
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  Like, like, you know, what are you going
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  to do with that? It's like, you know
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  what? This is this is just the the joy
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  of the hunt, right? So, it was it was a
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  really cool uh time. And and uh the
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  problem is that when gas started really
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  going up, I had to sort of slow it down.
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  And then with these with these tariffs,
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  it got really hard. But you and a lot of
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  people have basically said, you know,
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  Jay, you should you should go back and
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  you should do some stuff. I'm like,
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  okay, let's see what happens. If I I'm
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  gonna I'm going to put it up and see if
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  if everybody starts watching again. And
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  if they do, heck yeah, I'm going to do
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  it all over again. Absolutely, 100%.
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  >> You're one of the dudes that that made
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  me want to go and do YouTube. So kudos
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  to you. I remember driving around with
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  my kid like during that time and I'd put
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  on your video as you're driving like in
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  the car like you ask me who's this guy.
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  I'm like oh he was a big toys. He loved
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  all the toys and stuff like that. He's a
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  big Spider-Man fan, big Marvel fan. So
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  I'm like this is Mega J Retro Man. Like
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  he goes around to Toys R Us and stuff
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  like that. And my kid remembers Toys for
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  us too. So he's like oh wow we don't
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  have Toys R Us.
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  >> He he knows you as well. So I I'm sure
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  like when this is done and edited and I
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  show him who I'm on with he's going to
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  be like holy crap. So that that's a good
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  thing.
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  >> That's awesome, dude. I appreciate it.
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  Thanks.
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  >> All right, so let's segue into the
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  reason why we're here, and that is
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  Masters of the Universe, right? You
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  guys, you know, I'm a big Master
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  Universe fan, and obviously from
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  watching you for years, I know you are
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  as well. So, how did you what was your
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  first like thing with Motu? How did you
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  like you remember your first thing like
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  when you first saw He-Man, when you
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  first saw Skeletor? What was it?
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  >> Yeah, so I've told this story a couple
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  times on my channel. Um so uh I I I
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  immigrated here from um uh from the
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  Philippines. Uh my mom and my dad uh
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  brought me here when I was really young.
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  Um and you know uh for for all the uh
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  immigrants out there usually when you
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  when you come to a new country uh you
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  end up staying with with your cousins
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  and your your relatives um you know and
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  basically living with them for a number
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  of months maybe even a year. And I ended
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  up living with my cousins for for some
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  time. And um living with them was a lot
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  of fun. And one day my cousin John, he
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  basically um you know, we play in his
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  room. And there was this thing on top of
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  the shelf. And I I remember looking at
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  it and just being like like kind of
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  scared but a little bit but at the same
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  time memerized by it. And I would I
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  would point it out. I was like, "John,
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  what's that?" And he'd be like, "Oh,
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  that's not for kids." And I'm like,
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  "Come on, what is it? What is it? It
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  looks really cool." And he said, "Okay."
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  So he brought it down and that was the
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  first time I ever saw Castle Grey Skull
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  and I was like what is this and he's
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  like this is Castle Grey Skull and just
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  like the freaking if you remember those
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  80s commercials he was like boo and like
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  he would like knock down the jaw bridge
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  and of course Skeletor would come out
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  and he start [laughter]
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  I am Skeletor, right? And and it was it
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  was just this crazy thing because I
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  didn't know who these characters were. I
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  didn't know what they did. Even John was
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  kind of like, "Yeah, this He-Man, this
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  Skeletor, this Beast Man." I couldn't
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  keep those names in my head, right?
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  Because there was no cartoons uh when it
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  first came out in 1982, right? Um and
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  we're playing, we're having a great
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  time, and then of course a week later, I
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  come back and he'd bring it down and I'm
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  like, "What's that guy's name again?" We
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  both forgot. So then he goes, "Okay, let
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  me bring down the comic book." So we
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  still we start flipping through the
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  comic book and we see all the Alcala
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  illustrations. I can't read or not. I
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  couldn't read well. So, I'm just
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  enjoying the the pictures, right? But it
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  had this um fantasy aspect to it, you
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  know what I mean? This this real Con of
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  the Barbarian kind of idea, which I
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  didn't at the time, I didn't know know
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  what Cone of the Barbarian was, but I
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  really was enamored by by the by the
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  illustrations, by the what I could
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  understand as as as the story. And I
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  think that really resonated with me. And
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  then, of course, uh I begged my mom and
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  my dad, you know, to pick up a couple
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  for me and my brother. And yeah, we got
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  a few here and there. We got like
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  Skeletor, He-Man, Merman, uh, and Tila,
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  right? And then come Christmas, they got
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  us the um the Snake Mountain and the the
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  Castle Grey Skull. And then in 1983, uh,
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  Filmation uh, puts out He-Man and the
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  Masters of Universe, uh, the cartoon.
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  And I was I was absolutely hooked. Like
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  I totally forgot about the comics, uh,
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  the mini comics, and I just started
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  watching this on a daily basis. And it
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  became my world, man. It became my world
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  for a long time. and and you know
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  started collecting all the the road
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  rippers, the um uh the the the attack
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  sorry the um the battle ram, you know
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  what I mean? The dragon walker, all
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  these great, you know, vehicles that uh
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  that would come out with the toys and my
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  cousins, they had all their toys and we
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  were just like, you know, have a huge
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  grand old time. And that was the great
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  thing about toys, man. Toys really
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  brought your family together. It was it
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  was and you know your friends and you
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  would swap and they would they would
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  take some they would never bring them
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  back you know you would take some of
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  theirs and they would never bring and
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  you never give them back. It was such a
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  great time to be a kid uh with with with
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  action figures and toys back then. And
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  that really was that really stuck with
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  me. And of course, you lose touch with
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  it. But, you know, years later uh
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  probably when I was in my teens teen
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  years, I started thinking about Master
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  Universe all over again because I still
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  had buried in my basement somewhere. My
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  mom kept it uh the Castle Grey Skull and
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  a few of my figures. So, you know, you
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  get that itch right afterwards and and
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  you start thinking, okay, you know what?
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  one of these days when I have a little
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  bit more money, I'm going to go back and
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  I'm going to start collecting. And it
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  never really happened for me to to be
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  able to collect those um you know, all
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  the actual original Master Universe
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  figures. But then all of a sudden, you
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  start looking and you say, "Hey, there's
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  a new Master Universe TV show. It's New
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  Adventures." And then there's another
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  one a few years later, He-Man in the
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  Master Universe 200X. And then after
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  that um you know years later when I was
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  already in college and university and
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  actually started my new job uh my first
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  job then I found out years later after
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  that that the four horsemen you know
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  create master universe classics and you
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  know the whole the whole thing just
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  comes full circle like I said
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  everything's cyclical. So yeah man it's
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  it's it's been a very He-Man has been
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  with me for quite of quite a long time.
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  >> Yeah I'm with you there. I mean, I'm I'm
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  in my late 40s, so like to me, it is
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  such an iconic part of my life. And I
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  think a lot of people who probably grew
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  up around my same age range and the in
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  the early 1980s, mid1 1980s, like that
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  was part of your childhood. Even if you
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  were not a guy, I had, you know, girl
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  cousins that that were growing up. They
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  had, you know, characters like Tila,
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  Eivelyn that would bring them in as
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  well. But personally, Skeletor was
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  always my guy. I've had this incredible
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  fondness for the character my entire
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  life. So, I got to ask you, I ask
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  everyone when we talk about Motu, are
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  you are you leaning more to the evil
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  warriors? Are you the heroic warrior
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  guy?
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  >> Um, I mean, the evil warriors are always
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  going to be the most fun, right? At the
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  end of the day, I mean, like that's
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  that's really where where things got um,
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  you know, real imagination started with
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  those guys, right? Uh, I really have a
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  fondness for The Evil Guys. I really
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  have a fondness for Too Bad. I I loved
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  uh the toy itself, you know, this huge
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  gigantic chest, you know, the two heads,
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  the fact that he keep he can hit
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  himself. I always played that game with
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  with too bad. Don't stop hitting
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  yourself, right? And I would just kept
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  keep doing that because that's how they
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  made them. They they made them almost to
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  make to hit themselves. It was crazy. Um
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  Skeletor is definitely uh one of my
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  absolute all-time favorite uh villains
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  of all time. Um, and of course when when
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  the Master Universe movie came out in '
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  87, Frank Langella just took that
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  character and dialed him up to 11. And I
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  just remember him being so deliciously
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  evil. I was like, man, this is this is
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  Skeletor. This is like on screen. And,
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  you know, Franklinella took that movie,
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  put it on its shoulders, and just like
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  walked it uh to the to the finish line,
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  man. Because, you know, Dolph Ling just
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  could not act. You know, he was a a big
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  lumbering He-Man, and you love him. You
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  know what I mean? But but it was
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  definitely Skeletor that made that film.
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  So yeah, I can see exactly where you're
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  coming from. The villains are always a
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  lot of fun. But I will be a uh I'll
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  always be a good guy kind of character.
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  Uh you know, I love them. My favorite
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  character of all time has always been
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  Manny Faces. And um you know, now you
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  know, today we we found out that a brand
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  new sketch edition Manny Faces uh was is
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  being released, right? So
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  >> I saw that
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  >> a lot of things are a lot of things are
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  coming full circle. You know, all the
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  Mark Tiller designs. It's looking pretty
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  cool right now for Master Universe back
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  in in 2026.
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  >> There's a lot. I mean, I thought that
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  and I don't want to jump right into the
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  toys, but like the new toys, but like I
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  I you know, I kind of thought with the
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  with the Origins line kind of being
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  almost finished and now like I don't
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  want to say the Masterverse, they had to
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  like redo it because the original the
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  wave that they they were putting out
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  wasn't doing too great. So now they've
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  kind of revamped it a little bit for
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  like another release. I kind of thought
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  that was ending. So, I was a little
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  surprised to hear that there I've heard
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  sales have gotten an uptick now for
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  Mattel because of Masters of the
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  Universe. So, I was happy to hear that.
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  >> There was a there was a report uh I
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  think it was yesterday or today uh that
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  Mattel has actually uh said that that
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  action figure sales are up and partially
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  due to to universe which is great. Um,
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  and it's surprising because, you know,
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  the way they've been going along with
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  Mass Universe Origins and such, uh, and
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  how they keep delaying it and, um, you
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  know, um, certain series that they they
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  connect with it, like the crossovers,
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  which we can we can talk about that for
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  for all day, but, um, you know, Origins
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  has been left to its own devices really
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  for for, um, for Mass Universe um, um,
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  Mass Universe Creations, right? Sorry,
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  um, MattelCreations.com.
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  And uh a lot of people are like, "When
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  are you going to finish the line?" Like,
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  "Just finish the line already." Right.
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  Um but that I I think that that falls in
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  line with what they're trying to do.
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  Their strategy is to, you know, get a
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  few more extra characters out there so
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  that they can continue making these
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  molds, right? And you know, um Did you
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  pick up Stinger? Because he's he's he's
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  pretty wild, man. That's a that's a
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  pretty cool figure, Sting. I think
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  >> so. For me, for me, I have stuck to the
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  characters that I remember growing up
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  with as a kid because I didn't want to,
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  it becomes almost too much for me where
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  to start picking up new characters. So,
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  like I wanted to to finish the the run
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  of like characters that were created in
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  the 80s and I'm still waiting like for
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  an Origins too bad. We got the the
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  filmation,
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  >> but again, I want I would love to see a
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  Prince Adam on card. We got one with the
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  with the set and then I would love to
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  have a Mecha neck. Also, we got the
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  Mecha Neck with the Road Ripper. I would
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  love to have a mechanic on card. I want
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  to finish out that line before I start
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  picking and choosing other characters
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  that I that I was planning to pick up
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  later. So, that was a little bit
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  disappointing and and I feel like a lot
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  of other collectors feel the same way
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  like you said. But, one question I
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  wanted to ask you. Obviously, I know you
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  you were an Origins collector cuz I
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  watched your videos. You go into the
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  stores trying to look for. But, like
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  before that, like did you pick up the
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  2000X line? Did you get the classics?
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  Were you into that? Were you buying them
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  or to just kind of wait for that origins
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  and and the filmation stuff to come
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  after that?
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  >> So I I I
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  have to admit um by the time 200x had
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  come around
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  I was really disillusioned with New
• 14:59
  Adventures. [laughter]
• 15:00
  I uh I saw the animation uh way back
• 15:04
  when and and you know very much like a
• 15:06
  lot of the old school Filmation fans, I
• 15:08
  saw New Adventures and I thought this is
• 15:09
  not this is not cool. This is not good.
• 15:12
  and I didn't go that route for for New
• 15:14
  Adventures. And when 200X came out, I
• 15:16
  thought it was awesome. I thought the
• 15:17
  cartoon was amazing. I thought that um
• 15:20
  uh it was it was a really cool uh
• 15:22
  leaning into very anime type of of of
• 15:25
  action and I thought this is this is
• 15:27
  really neat. The problem was up here in
• 15:29
  Canada, it was hard to figure out what
• 15:31
  time it was going to be on. It would it
• 15:33
  would hop from from different station to
• 15:35
  different station. It was it was it was
• 15:36
  really weird. And I think it really did
• 15:38
  hurt the series that they couldn't
• 15:39
  figure out a proper time slot. Um, but
• 15:42
  the other problem was that uh
• 15:44
  distribution was was okay here in
• 15:46
  Canada, but I I couldn't find it in my
• 15:50
  uh Walmarts at the time. Um, so it was
• 15:53
  hard to collect. And because of that, I
• 15:56
  really did not get into 200X,
• 15:58
  unfortunately, the Mike Young series for
• 16:00
  for the Four Horsemen original um 200X
• 16:03
  characters, the the He-Man universe. Um,
• 16:05
  which I kind of regret because they did
• 16:07
  look freaking awesome. However, I will
• 16:09
  say on hindsight, they are kind of more
• 16:11
  like movable statues, you know what I
• 16:13
  mean? They don't really have the best of
• 16:14
  articulation. They they had this one
• 16:16
  cool pose and you can sort of move them
• 16:18
  around, right? Um, but I saw what the
• 16:20
  Four Horsemen were trying to do. They
• 16:22
  were trying to really get uh, you know,
• 16:24
  a type of McFarland look at the time
• 16:26
  because McFarland was already doing uh
• 16:28
  his action figures and trying to really
• 16:30
  get, you know, again, more movable
• 16:32
  statues. Same thing, right? Like a lot
• 16:34
  of the stuff that Mcfarland was doing at
• 16:35
  the time. Um but uh I really didn't I
• 16:39
  really sort of that that that era of toy
• 16:41
  passed me by and when I got out of
• 16:44
  college um and started working uh I
• 16:48
  completely missed classics. I was so I
• 16:52
  was so deep into my my career uh and
• 16:55
  trying to and trying to get ahead that I
• 16:57
  I basically mo most of the geek stuff
• 17:00
  that I was doing was was was centered
• 17:01
  around anime around that time. I was
• 17:03
  really really into anime and a lot of
• 17:05
  the toys I was collecting at the time
• 17:06
  was was anime based. Um, and it was only
• 17:09
  like decades later, like about a decade
• 17:12
  later or so, where someone like I think
• 17:15
  I was on Big Bad Toy Store somehow, and
• 17:17
  I saw the last remnants, the last few uh
• 17:20
  Mass Universe um, uh, what's it called?
• 17:23
  Uh, Club Grey Skull figures. And I lost
• 17:26
  my mind. I was like, what what what
• 17:28
  where I literally was like, where were
• 17:30
  these things? When did these things come
• 17:31
  out? I was I was absolutely losing my
• 17:33
  mind. And if you know anything about uh
• 17:35
  and for for everybody who's collecting
• 17:37
  class, you know how much they freaking
• 17:39
  skyrocketed in price at that point. It
• 17:40
  was it was like unobtainable to to pick
• 17:43
  up any of these figures at a reasonable
• 17:44
  price. I think He-Man um the original
• 17:47
  He-Man not Grey Skull uh for classics.
• 17:50
  Uh at the time he was he was almost like
• 17:52
  150. I was like this is insane. Canadian
• 17:55
  150 Canadian. And I was like this this
• 17:56
  is Canadian. This is this is insane.
• 17:58
  This is absolutely insane. And I really
• 18:00
  wanted them. I I wanted I wanted the
• 18:02
  whole line. Like they looked amazing,
• 18:04
  right? They they looked exactly the way
• 18:05
  I wanted to look. The new articulation,
• 18:07
  everything about them. Um and Battlecat
• 18:09
  looked amazing. The Battleground looked
• 18:11
  amazing. The freaking they then you know
• 18:12
  what? Um at the time, Matty Collector
• 18:15
  and Scott Night and the Four Horsemen,
• 18:17
  man, they were just killing it. To this
• 18:19
  day, it's my understanding that to this
• 18:21
  day, it still is the most complete
• 18:24
  Master of the Universe line uh out
• 18:26
  there. It has more figures than any
• 18:28
  other Master Universe collection. I I
• 18:29
  was probably like you in the same thing.
• 18:31
  I kind of went back on a nostalgia trip
• 18:33
  when I was a lot younger and all of a
• 18:35
  sudden I caught these figures like at
• 18:36
  some point like mid-release or towards
• 18:39
  the end of that line and I went back
• 18:40
  trying to look and see how much they
• 18:41
  were and they were even in the US they
• 18:43
  were crazy priced. I'm like you know
• 18:44
  what this would cost me an arm and a leg
• 18:46
  to try to pick these up right now. So I
• 18:49
  refrained. But the 200x line, I don't
• 18:52
  remember where I saw it for the first
• 18:54
  time, but when I heard that these things
• 18:56
  were coming out, and I remember exactly
• 18:57
  where I was, it was at KB. I don't know
• 19:00
  if you guys had a KB in quite yet, in
• 19:02
  Canada.
• 19:02
  >> We we didn't have a KB in Canada, but
• 19:04
  you know, trips down to trips down to
• 19:06
  Buffalo. Um, you know, crossing the
• 19:08
  border. I have been a KB I have been in
• 19:10
  a KB toy store, so I know I I I did
• 19:12
  experience a KB. Yeah.
• 19:14
  >> So, I remember going down the aisle and
• 19:16
  seeing them for the first time. I'm
• 19:17
  like, holy crap. the original waves from
• 19:20
  that line were like because you said
• 19:22
  like the updated structure of the
• 19:24
  figures. They weren't like the
• 19:25
  originals, you know, uh more statues,
• 19:27
  very like I don't want to say
• 19:29
  articulated, but they were very detail
• 19:30
  oriented figures which I absolutely
• 19:32
  loved. Like you said before, anime
• 19:34
  style, but like just a new look for
• 19:36
  He-Man. So, I was just happy to see the
• 19:38
  IP back on storeshelves. I was really
• 19:40
  excited. Started picking up all those
• 19:41
  because they were still relatively cheap
• 19:43
  at the time. But that line died very
• 19:46
  quickly when we got figures like Disco
• 19:49
  Skeletor and all the repaints we got
• 19:51
  really quick. So that soured me
• 19:55
  immediately once I once I started
• 19:56
  getting like waves or like there was no
• 19:58
  real like new figures coming out. I'm
• 19:59
  like, "All right, this is getting
• 20:01
  ridiculous now." And that's where I kind
• 20:02
  of stopped, you know, going for the line
• 20:04
  until the Origins line came out. And
• 20:06
  that to me has been like a really a
• 20:08
  blessing because I love the look of the
• 20:10
  original figures, right? That's what
• 20:12
  made them iconic. those those 5-in
• 20:14
  figures that are like unlike anything
• 20:16
  else, so nostalgic, and they kind of
• 20:18
  recreated that, maybe updated it just a
• 20:20
  tad. And the cardbacks too was another
• 20:22
  thing because if you're a Masters of
• 20:24
  Universe fan, like the cardback was part
• 20:26
  of the greatest
• 20:28
  uh I guess I can say things about Master
• 20:31
  Universe was the art, right? The
• 20:33
  cardback itself, the art and the boxes.
• 20:35
  That's what make that's what made MOTU
• 20:37
  great. Part of the reason it made great,
• 20:38
  but like so that they continued that
• 20:40
  with with the Origins line. And so that
• 20:42
  made it really special. The problem in
• 20:45
  my opinion, I want to hear this from you
• 20:46
  with the origins that everything got
• 20:47
  really expensive really quick and then
• 20:49
  they kind of ran out of characters to
• 20:51
  use.
• 20:52
  >> Yeah. So, first of all, I agree with you
• 20:54
  100%. Um, you know, one of the one of
• 20:56
  the best things about the Origins line
• 20:58
  is that they they kept the the tradition
• 21:00
  of amazing artwork, right? First of all,
• 21:02
  they kept them on the classic cards, the
• 21:03
  exploding rocks, the blue sky, um you
• 21:06
  know, all that wonderful um aesthetic
• 21:08
  for Master Universe, really connecting
• 21:10
  the the old school fans uh back to it,
• 21:12
  but still allowing for younger fans to
• 21:14
  to get into it. Um and of course, the
• 21:18
  great artwork. And bravo to all the um
• 21:20
  all the designers and the illustrators,
• 21:21
  you know, Roy Wararez and and his team,
• 21:23
  you know, those those guys are really
• 21:24
  killing it. Um,
• 21:26
  for for for the line though, I sort of
• 21:31
  like, you know, you could see where it
• 21:32
  was heading. Um, at at first it was one
• 21:35
  of the most the one of the most
• 21:36
  affordable collector lines ever. I think
• 21:38
  it like it started like $14, right? It
• 21:41
  started really cheap, really, really
• 21:43
  great to collect, easy to collect,
• 21:44
  right? And actually, that's why I was
• 21:46
  buying multiples at the time, uh,
• 21:48
  because I was like, it's never going to
• 21:49
  be this cheap ever again. Um, and uh, it
• 21:52
  was great, but obviously a year or two
• 21:54
  into it, they uh, they obviously upped
• 21:56
  it up to about $16 and then it went to
• 21:59
  $18. Um, so yeah, but it's still
• 22:03
  reasonable compared to like a 6-in
• 22:06
  figure. You know, the five and a quart
• 22:08
  5.5 in figures were still good. They
• 22:09
  still had great pretty decent
• 22:10
  articulation. So, I wasn't so upset
• 22:14
  about collecting the line uh, at that
• 22:16
  point either. Uh, but you know, when it
• 22:19
  finally cames down comes down to it,
• 22:22
  they pretty much pulled it from shelves.
• 22:24
  I think after the I'd like to say the
• 22:27
  third year, fourth year. And that was
• 22:29
  upsetting, right? Cuz one of the biggest
• 22:31
  things I enjoyed, and you probably saw
• 22:33
  it, uh, Lawrence, when when I when I
• 22:35
  walked into Walmart and I finally found
• 22:38
  them for the very first time, that was
• 22:39
  like euphoria, you know what I mean? I
• 22:41
  saw them and I I think I was shaking. I
• 22:43
  think I was actually shaking when I saw
• 22:45
  them.
• 22:45
  And it was just it just this wave of
• 22:47
  emotion came back to me. Uh here here we
• 22:49
  didn't have like Walmart didn't come to
• 22:51
  come to Canada very early. It came like
• 22:52
  later in the 90 in the in the late 80s
• 22:55
  90s and but we had Wulco right? You you
• 22:58
  you guys probably remember Wworth uh way
• 23:01
  back. Yeah. So WCO was kind of like
• 23:03
  Wworth. So, we had Wulco and I remember
• 23:07
  that was that was my that was my place,
• 23:09
  man, because uh they would always be
• 23:10
  fully stocked with Master Universe and
• 23:13
  it was a lesser degree when I finally
• 23:15
  found them uh on at at Walmart cuz
• 23:17
  literally they would only have one like
• 23:19
  one or two sets, you know what I mean?
• 23:21
  And if you didn't get there early, they
• 23:23
  were gone. You know what I mean? Like
• 23:24
  that's why that's why the hunt was so
• 23:26
  important back then, right? And I say
• 23:28
  back then, it was only like five or six
• 23:29
  years ago, right? But still, it was it
• 23:31
  was it was really important to get there
• 23:32
  early and to find it as soon as you
• 23:34
  could.
• 23:35
  >> Let me ask you about Deluxe figures
• 23:37
  because I have this pet peeve with
• 23:39
  deluxe figures. I am not a huge fan. Not
• 23:40
  there because I don't like the figures
• 23:41
  cuz I do love them. But like from a
• 23:44
  display purpose, cuz I am a Minton card
• 23:46
  collector. So, if I'm going to buy and
• 23:48
  open, I'll open one and then keep one.
• 23:50
  But for the most part, I collect Mint on
• 23:51
  card because I just think it displays
• 23:53
  better, especially with MOTU because of
• 23:55
  the iconicness of the artwork. So, are
• 23:57
  you a deluxe guy? Because to me, I am
• 24:00
  not a fan of all the extra stuff they
• 24:02
  include with this stuff. And the box
• 24:03
  figures too, like Moss Man. I would love
• 24:06
  to see a Moss Man on car just for
• 24:07
  nostalgia purposes.
• 24:10
  So, my stance on on Deluxe is just
• 24:15
  because of the way it is. I I I have to
• 24:18
  collect them, right? They're This is
• 24:19
  This is part This is part and parcel of
• 24:21
  of what Moto is. Um, but those cards are
• 24:25
  just because of the the the absolute
• 24:28
  weak cards that they put on them.
• 24:29
  They're they're terrible. Like it's it's
• 24:31
  hard to find a pristine, especially if
• 24:33
  you're an on on card collector. Um, it's
• 24:36
  hard to find a pristine version without
• 24:37
  some ding corners or, you know, of a a
• 24:40
  gouge. It's really difficult because
• 24:41
  they're massive cards compared to
• 24:43
  compared to the regular sized cards,
• 24:45
  right? They're they're double side,
• 24:47
  right? like like Hurricane Hord, sorry,
• 24:49
  Buzzar Hordack um was, you know, his his
• 24:51
  his card was almost always mangled.
• 24:53
  Ramman's card was almost mangled. Clamp
• 24:55
  Champamp's card was almost mangled,
• 24:57
  right? So, finding a good a good one in
• 24:59
  great condition is very rare. The the
• 25:02
  boxed versions, yeah, I'm not a fan. I
• 25:04
  I'll be I'll be straight up and say I'm
• 25:05
  not really a fan. But, I mean, do I
• 25:07
  appreciate the extra uh accessories?
• 25:10
  Yeah, I do. I do. Um, especially when it
• 25:12
  comes to Cyclone because Cyclone was my
• 25:14
  absolute favorite. Um, you know, uh,
• 25:17
  gimmick-wise. I loved his gimmick. You
• 25:19
  know, basically using him and just like
• 25:20
  spinning him as fast as I could with my
• 25:21
  thumb. That was so much fun. And the
• 25:23
  fact that they actually brought that
• 25:24
  back, I thought that was awesome. I
• 25:25
  thought that was really cool.
• 25:27
  >> Um, but you're right, in terms of
• 25:29
  uniformity, in terms of like um, you
• 25:31
  know, how I collect. Yeah. I I would
• 25:34
  have preferred if it was just on the
• 25:35
  card, very much like classics where
• 25:37
  Classics has all the classic cards. You
• 25:39
  know what I mean? like well not classic
• 25:41
  cars did they the original classics had
• 25:42
  this you know weird box thing right but
• 25:44
  but they were all uniform like you knew
• 25:46
  when you got a classics that that's how
• 25:48
  it would look
• 25:48
  >> right um and then later on when super 7
• 25:52
  got a hold of it then they were doing
• 25:53
  the classic cards and I was like holy
• 25:54
  crap this is awesome
• 25:57
  so that seems to be a good segue into
• 25:59
  the the reason probably everyone is
• 26:01
  listening to this podcast right now and
• 26:02
  that is the new Masters of the Universe
• 26:04
  movie I can't tell you Jay how many
• 26:07
  freaking comments and questions I get on
• 26:10
  the videos that I put out about why this
• 26:13
  movie is on Earth. People are still
• 26:14
  excited about it. Don't get me wrong,
• 26:15
  getting a lot of positive stuff, but I
• 26:17
  think the fact that this movie is at
• 26:19
  least partially taking place on Earth
• 26:21
  has a lot of people upset. What is your
• 26:23
  take so far of what we know about the
• 26:26
  film, especially that part of it,
• 26:28
  because I want to try to ease some minds
• 26:29
  out there if we can.
• 26:32
  >> Um, okay. So [laughter]
• 26:36
  I' I've made no bones about uh how I
• 26:38
  feel about the Earth connection. Um I am
• 26:40
  when when when the first reports started
• 26:42
  coming out from like Deadline and things
• 26:44
  like that. I remember reading the by
• 26:46
  line the very first time. Uh and I was
• 26:48
  like what the f man [laughter] that was
• 26:51
  the that was my actual reaction. I was
• 26:53
  like why why and I and I'm reading I'm
• 26:56
  reading the actual synopsis. I'm like I
• 26:59
  was like Prince Adam is snatched away
• 27:01
  from his home. uh and crash lands on
• 27:04
  Earth in a spaceship. I'm like, what is
• 27:06
  this? Superman? Like I I was I was like
• 27:08
  this like who who put who cobbled this
• 27:12
  together? Like I was I was literally
• 27:13
  like this is nuts. Why would you do this
• 27:16
  again with the Earth? Right. And I said
• 27:18
  this on a couple on my on my own
• 27:20
  streams. I was like what is what is
• 27:22
  Hollywood's reliance on tween or kids
• 27:26
  movies having to have some sort of of of
• 27:28
  human connection with Earth? Like it it
• 27:31
  just boggles my mind why they insist on
• 27:33
  like including human kids. Uh you know
• 27:36
  like um uh what's it called? Um uh
• 27:39
  freaking Cox there, right? She she the
• 27:42
  original movie, right? Um
• 27:44
  >> Courtney Cox, right? Uh I was not trying
• 27:47
  to imply anything on that one, but
• 27:48
  Courtney Cox, [laughter]
• 27:49
  right? And uh and Robert Dougl McNeel,
• 27:52
  who ended up being on on Star Trek
• 27:53
  Voyager, you know what I mean? What what
• 27:55
  was their what was their freaking
• 27:57
  fascination with having these two kids
• 27:59
  and this crazy back story about how her
• 28:02
  parents are, you know, gone and he's the
• 28:06
  only connection he's got left and she's
• 28:08
  leaving town and it was just this weird
• 28:10
  like just like why? Like it's just it
• 28:13
  was so confusing. None of the kids
• 28:14
  watching that movie, including myself,
• 28:15
  were like who are these kids? Why do I
• 28:17
  care? Right? It it it it brought me
• 28:20
  these crazy flashbacks of the of the
• 28:21
  filmation Christmas movie and I was like
• 28:23
  why
• 28:24
  why are we watching Earth kids uh you
• 28:27
  know interacting with with Eternians it
• 28:29
  was just so weird. I mean seeing He-Man
• 28:31
  running around in the buff you know in
• 28:32
  in the streets of New Jersey or wherever
• 28:34
  the heck he was it's you know it's
• 28:36
  amazing he wasn't being arrested as a
• 28:37
  flasher. You know what I mean? Um but
• 28:40
  there was some awesome moments in the
• 28:42
  film uh for the original 1987 film like
• 28:44
  I want an action figure of Lubik. I need
• 28:47
  Mr. Strickland in my life like you know
• 28:49
  what I mean like like James Tolken
• 28:52
  amazing actor whether he's playing a
• 28:54
  freaking admiral on a ship or uh you
• 28:57
  know what whatever whatever role he's
• 28:59
  he's in he freaking he slays that role
• 29:01
  because he's always the same guy every
• 29:03
  single freaking he's like um he's like
• 29:05
  Samuel L. Jackson but you know like like
• 29:08
  a bald a middle like a bald older guy
• 29:10
  [laughter]
• 29:11
  you know what I mean? like like middle.
• 29:12
  He's he's like he's like the the the
• 29:14
  paler version. Like literally they're
• 29:16
  they're they're two different shades.
• 29:17
  You know what I mean? It's freaking
• 29:18
  awesome. Um but uh but my thoughts about
• 29:23
  um the film in general in terms of the
• 29:25
  Earth connection just Travis Knight, I
• 29:27
  don't know who I don't know who you had
• 29:29
  to please to actually get that green
• 29:31
  lit, but you know what? Get it out of
• 29:33
  the film as quick as possible. Like make
• 29:35
  it make it a five minute segment,
• 29:37
  whatever it is, but get them off get
• 29:38
  them off Earth as fast as possible. But
• 29:41
  that's probably not going to happen.
• 29:42
  It's probably going to be more like 15
• 29:43
  minutes of the film, which is, you know,
• 29:45
  the quicker they get off of there, the
• 29:46
  better. But I'm looking at the cast and
• 29:50
  two ca two names come up very
• 29:51
  specifically. They're very Tan names and
• 29:54
  I'm pretty sure those are his like those
• 29:55
  are his best friends on earth. Uh but uh
• 29:59
  fun fun little thing that I noticed in
• 30:01
  the credits. Um the actor playing Fisto,
• 30:05
  right? He has an he has an attorney name
• 30:08
  and he has a Terran name. So, I'm
• 30:11
  wondering if he didn't get dragged to
• 30:13
  Earth alone. I'm wondering if Fisto was
• 30:16
  sent as a guardian to protect him and
• 30:19
  actually he has some sort of connection
• 30:20
  with his uncle Fisto, right? Um, and
• 30:23
  maybe he's the one telling him about his
• 30:24
  his his his lineage and who he really
• 30:27
  is, right? And then finally at some
• 30:30
  point they find the sword of power and
• 30:32
  they're both whisked back to Eternia
• 30:33
  somehow. I'm not really sure, but I
• 30:36
  think it's really cool that, you know,
• 30:38
  they're trying to weave this little
• 30:39
  story here. But my my my absolute number
• 30:42
  one wish is to get off of Earth as
• 30:44
  quickly as humanly possible.
• 30:47
  >> Mike is here. Mike, how you doing?
• 30:49
  >> I'm good. How are you guys?
• 30:52
  >> Fantastic. So,
• 30:54
  >> yeah, thanks for joining us. Um, so
• 30:56
  we've talked about MOTU a little bit,
• 30:57
  like the toy line, how we grew up with
• 30:59
  it, you know, what we first loved about
• 31:00
  the toy line, but we're talking about
• 31:01
  the movie now. And I'm bringing you in
• 31:03
  here because I have to hear from you as
• 31:06
  well. I just asked Jay this question. A
• 31:10
  lot of people freaking out about the
• 31:12
  movie taking place on Earth. So, I want
• 31:14
  to hear from you. What do you think? You
• 31:17
  know, is it that as bad as everybody
• 31:19
  seems?
• 31:19
  >> I mean, I just heard Uncle Fisto. So, I
• 31:21
  hop in and I'm hearing [laughter]
• 31:23
  and I'm like, "Uncle Fisto." Okay. Uh,
• 31:27
  yeah. Um, obviously I don't want it on
• 31:29
  Earth. That's that any Masters Universe
• 31:32
  fan will tell you they don't want it on
• 31:34
  Earth. Uh, but you know, it is what it
• 31:37
  is. The 87 film took place on Earth.
• 31:40
  Maybe it's some kind of throwback to
• 31:43
  that, but uh, you know, I'm hoping it's
• 31:46
  a short and sweet process of them being
• 31:48
  on Earth. you know, it's probably going
• 31:50
  to be the the first of three acts kind
• 31:52
  of thing where um according to the
• 31:55
  synopsis, you know, I don't want to
• 31:56
  spoil it for anybody, but an accident
• 31:59
  happens or a tragedy happens that leads
• 32:02
  to him going to Earth. It's not like uh
• 32:04
  apparently what we first thought where
• 32:07
  it was the Superman story of him being
• 32:09
  sent to Earth. No, something something
• 32:11
  happened that caused him to to go to
• 32:14
  Earth, not um wasn't sent there on
• 32:17
  purpose kind of thing. So, uh yeah,
• 32:21
  maybe that Fisto was was in this ship as
• 32:24
  well because yeah, uh I think I heard
• 32:26
  Jay talking about in the credits, right?
• 32:27
  He's got a an Earth name as well as um
• 32:31
  his Attorneyian name. So,
• 32:34
  that would be kind of cool, I guess. But
• 32:37
  again, with Earth, it no one really
• 32:40
  wants to see it. [laughter] So, the
• 32:43
  shorter they make it, the the better the
• 32:45
  movie I think will be.
• 32:46
  >> So, I'll ask both of you this and one of
• 32:48
  you guys can go first, but like it's not
• 32:50
  going to ruin the movie for you guys,
• 32:51
  right? You've been waiting for this for
• 32:52
  a long time. It's not going to ruin the
• 32:53
  movie for you, right?
• 32:55
  >> Definitely not.
• 32:56
  >> No.
• 32:56
  >> Jay,
• 32:57
  >> uh, the reality is I've been waiting for
• 32:59
  like I want Mass Universe on the big
• 33:01
  screen like everybody else. And and no
• 33:03
  matter what, no matter how it starts as
• 33:06
  and and you know what, uh we we've seen
• 33:08
  a lot of different promotional material
• 33:09
  now. And when I see Battlecat on the
• 33:11
  screen, I think I'm going to faint. Like
• 33:13
  that that that that I think is is is
• 33:15
  probably the biggest thing. I've been
• 33:16
  waiting for a Battlecat.
• 33:17
  >> I would agree.
• 33:18
  >> And uh and and if I see Oracle, I think
• 33:20
  I'm going to faint, too. Like seriously,
• 33:22
  I think I will. There's things we've
• 33:23
  never got to see on the big screen
• 33:25
  because of budget, because of technology
• 33:29
  that they can now bring to the big
• 33:31
  screen. And seeing that kind of stuff
• 33:33
  for the first time will blow my mind to
• 33:36
  the point where I'll be like, "What
• 33:38
  about what?" Like, once they hit, I will
• 33:41
  have like short-term memory loss of what
• 33:44
  had just previously happened and be all
• 33:46
  in.
• 33:49
  So, a lot of people also in my comments
• 33:52
  have been like shocked that there's been
• 33:53
  no mention of Orcco. You know, we had
• 33:56
  that like totally CGI character we think
• 33:58
  is going to be Beastman. I said that
• 33:59
  before. How disappointed would you be if
• 34:02
  either of those two characters weren't
• 34:04
  in the film? And I'll add Merman to that
• 34:06
  as well because I feel like he's an
• 34:07
  iconic character that, you know, from
• 34:10
  the cartoon, from the toy line, like he
• 34:11
  has to be a part of it. So iconic about
• 34:13
  being Skeletor's one of his main
• 34:15
  henchmen.
• 34:17
  Yeah, definitely. Um, Beastman is one of
• 34:21
  the original eightbacks, so I feel like
• 34:23
  all those characters need to be in the
• 34:25
  film. Uh, you know, Merman, Beastman,
• 34:29
  Stratos, I think Zodak would be the only
• 34:31
  one I'd be okay with that not that
• 34:33
  didn't get into the film.
• 34:36
  >> And we we got that little bit of an
• 34:37
  inkling, too. I don't know if you guys
• 34:38
  remember like on that whatever that
• 34:40
  platform is that we saw that from the
• 34:42
  leaked photos that there's a picture of
• 34:43
  Zodak there among who we think is B and
• 34:46
  some other characters but what about you
• 34:48
  Jay how disappointed would you be?
• 34:51
  [sighs]
• 34:52
  >> I mean cuts have to be made. I totally
• 34:53
  get that. Um the pro the pro the problem
• 34:55
  is we we we have been hearing all these
• 34:58
  all these rumors and and leaks from from
• 35:00
  different places like you know what
• 35:02
  happened at Cineacon uh in Las Vegas and
• 35:05
  things and people were saying that uh a
• 35:07
  a production trailer was made and and
• 35:09
  people were like so blown away at the
• 35:10
  fact they were seeing uh you know so
• 35:12
  many characters that they were naming
• 35:13
  off Tricops you know web store this guy
• 35:16
  that guy everybody and Goatman and you
• 35:18
  know it's it's like okay they're talk
• 35:21
  they're calling everybody out but
• 35:22
  they're not calling out Beastman and and
• 35:24
  and Oracle. But the reality is I wonder
• 35:26
  a lot of those people who saw it might
• 35:28
  not actually be, you know, real He-Man
• 35:31
  fans. I mean, they might have remember
• 35:32
  something from He-Man. They might
• 35:34
  remember something from Mass Universe,
• 35:35
  but obviously they're not as they're not
• 35:37
  as connected as us. Maybe Beastman was
• 35:39
  there. They didn't realize he was there,
• 35:41
  right? Maybe Orcco was was actually
• 35:43
  there and they'd be like, "Oh, what's
• 35:44
  who's that little guy?" Right? Because
• 35:46
  people's memories tend to tend to fog
• 35:48
  over and stuff like that, right? I'm
• 35:49
  hoping that that's actually the case and
• 35:50
  they were actually there and that it
• 35:52
  would be and I'm hoping that the first
• 35:54
  trailer that's dropped, the first thing
• 35:55
  we see is freaking Oracle casting a
• 35:57
  spell. I think I think that would be
• 35:58
  really really cool. Um, and it would
• 36:00
  really funny if they just did an entire
• 36:02
  my name like I'm Adam, Prince of
• 36:04
  Eternia. That would be hilarious.
• 36:05
  >> I am Adam, prince [music] of Eternia,
• 36:08
  defender of the secrets of Castle Grey
• 36:10
  Scum. This is Cringer, my fearless
• 36:13
  friend.
• 36:14
  >> I think it would be it would go really
• 36:15
  well
• 36:16
  >> with the I think that would go really
• 36:17
  well with the fans. I think that that,
• 36:20
  you know, how they do mock mock
• 36:21
  commercials. I think that would be
• 36:23
  hilarious and I think it would be and it
• 36:25
  wouldn't be out of the realm for Travis
• 36:26
  Knight to do something like that. I
• 36:27
  think he probably would would definitely
• 36:29
  be something some tongue-in-cheek kind
• 36:30
  of idea with that. So, but how
• 36:33
  disappointed would I be? I think I would
• 36:35
  get over it. Um, but yeah, I mean, Beast
• 36:38
  Night is a very much a um a pivotal
• 36:40
  character. He was in the 87 movie,
• 36:43
  right? Or being replaced by Guildor.
• 36:45
  Guildor is one of my favorite
• 36:47
  characters. So, you know, I'm hoping
• 36:48
  that if Orcco doesn't show up, like will
• 36:50
  the world make a cameo um or something
• 36:53
  along those lines, but definitely I
• 36:55
  would love absolutely love to see Orcco.
• 36:57
  I think Orcco is is is very much um a
• 36:59
  part of the Master Universe lore and he
• 37:02
  should be there, but if they're not, it
• 37:05
  would take me a while, but as long as
• 37:06
  the story is good, I think that uh I
• 37:08
  think we can keep moving. So, I
• 37:10
  >> I'm I'm the opposite of you guys. He has
• 37:12
  to be in the movie. Orco has to be in
• 37:13
  the movie because he is such like just
• 37:15
  from the cartoon like how he he him and
• 37:18
  Cringer were were Adam's best friends
• 37:20
  like they never did anything outside of
• 37:22
  each other. So like having the three of
• 37:23
  them together and you can add man at
• 37:24
  arms in that as well because of how
• 37:27
  protective he was of Adam and then Tila
• 37:29
  was that kind of opposite almost like
• 37:30
  that big sister was kind of like almost
• 37:33
  doineering towards Adam but like his
• 37:35
  group were those four characters you
• 37:37
  know him man-at-arms Orcco and Cringer.
• 37:39
  So, I feel like those characters, they
• 37:41
  need to keep that kind of groove that
• 37:43
  those guys had together because that's
• 37:44
  that's really a big part of of Masters
• 37:46
  of the Universe in my opinion. But I'm
• 37:48
  just praying that that that we get
• 37:50
  Orcco. I'm glad we're getting a battle
• 37:52
  cap because that's going to be awesome.
• 37:53
  The transformation I think is what
• 37:55
  everybody is looking forward to that
• 37:57
  first time he raises the sword and says
• 37:59
  it. But, uh, one other question I I
• 38:02
  wanted to ask you guys, and I'll have a
• 38:03
  lot of questions about the film, but
• 38:05
  let's talk about the look. We got that
• 38:07
  that snippet of of him as E-Man from
• 38:10
  behind. What did you think of that? And
• 38:13
  would you have done anything differently
• 38:15
  or are you pretty happy with the way it
• 38:17
  looks?
• 38:17
  >> I'm I'm still waiting. Uh because
• 38:19
  because the cutup actually showed more
• 38:22
  than than we'd ever seen uh the standup
• 38:24
  that was the Sandy that was at the um
• 38:26
  the um the licensing trade show um uh
• 38:30
  that that was that was reported by
• 38:32
  hemania.com.
• 38:33
  Um, so the overall design of Battlecat,
• 38:37
  the over design of of He-Man, those are
• 38:39
  still, by the way, um, as we found out,
• 38:41
  those those were just production
• 38:43
  >> concept, right?
• 38:44
  >> Yeah, they're concept art. They they
• 38:46
  weren't 100% solid. So, it's still in
• 38:48
  the realm of what is actually going to
• 38:50
  be. Um, but examining it, lightening it
• 38:54
  up, looking at it, it's amazing how
• 38:56
  close to the Mondo um original He-Man
• 39:01
  action figure it actually looks. Um, in
• 39:04
  terms of like the leather, it's not
• 39:06
  really it doesn't look like a a fuzzy
• 39:08
  loin cloth. It looks more like a a
• 39:09
  leather strap, you know, kind of like um
• 39:12
  kilt. Uh, and the gauntlets he's wearing
• 39:16
  look almost identical. like you know
• 39:18
  when we when we took a closer look there
• 39:19
  they all almost identical to the to the
• 39:21
  Mondo design. So I don't even know maybe
• 39:24
  Mondo actually had some consulting we
• 39:26
  don't know right but
• 39:31
  um
• 39:32
  should he have been like the Dolph Dolph
• 39:36
  Lendin? Should he have been Arnold
• 39:37
  switcher? Should he have been you know
• 39:39
  like a gigantic mass of a man?
• 39:44
  I mean part of me wants that. You know
• 39:46
  what I mean? Like I've always thought
• 39:48
  that Arnold Schwarzenegger was He-Man. I
• 39:50
  always thought that. And I think even
• 39:51
  Arnold Schwarzenegger believed that he
• 39:52
  was human. Um, but
• 39:56
  do we need that?
• 39:58
  I think that I have to see it. Number
• 40:01
  one. Number two, if it's done well, and
• 40:05
  I've seen some of the rehearsals for the
• 40:06
  fights. I wonder how many fights we're
• 40:08
  going to get. You know what I mean?
• 40:10
  Rehearsing fights is one thing. Actually
• 40:11
  seeing them on screen is a completely
• 40:13
  different thing.
• 40:13
  >> Yeah. So,
• 40:16
  I can honestly say I don't know yet. I
• 40:18
  really don't know yet. But that shot
• 40:20
  from behind was not helping at all
• 40:22
  because it's backlit. Uh, half of the
• 40:24
  bleed makes him look skinnier than he
• 40:25
  really is. I hope.
• 40:27
  >> Right. But from what I'm seeing right
• 40:30
  now, the work he's put in because again,
• 40:32
  when I the last time I the first time I
• 40:33
  ever saw Nicholas Gallazine and even not
• 40:36
  even knowing who he was, he was a skinny
• 40:38
  surfer dude that I as far as I could
• 40:40
  tell. like he he has it's it's getting
• 40:42
  to that Chris Hemsworth kind of idea
• 40:44
  where when you first saw Chris
• 40:45
  Hemsworth, he was literally like a
• 40:46
  surfer dude. He was like a really skinny
• 40:48
  guy, but he put the work in and he
• 40:50
  became this like absolute beast. Is that
• 40:52
  going to be Nicholas Gallatine? I don't
• 40:54
  think so. Like I think he's going to be
• 40:56
  a lot thinner frame, but is he going to
• 40:58
  be is he going to be more muscular? Hell
• 41:00
  yeah. 100% he's going to be more
• 41:02
  muscular. But is he going to embody what
• 41:04
  we believe to be as the most powerful
• 41:07
  man in the universe? I think Dolph tried
• 41:09
  his best and he did look pretty ample.
• 41:12
  Um, but I don't think that I don't think
• 41:14
  Galaxian is going to get that big. So,
• 41:18
  I still have to see it. I still have to
• 41:20
  see it. But I'm hoping I'm hoping for
• 41:21
  the best. I really am.
• 41:22
  >> Before I let you answer, Mike, I got to
• 41:24
  say that even Longren, he was very lean
• 41:26
  in that movie. He was big, but he's a
• 41:28
  big dude, but he's he was still too too
• 41:30
  lean in that movie for me. So, Mike, go
• 41:32
  ahead. What What was your first
• 41:33
  impression on that photo?
• 41:35
  >> I mean, not good. I I did I agree with
• 41:38
  Jay where he was, you know, the back lit
• 41:40
  it looked like someone took that with a
• 41:41
  cell phone and was just a poor quality
• 41:44
  just all around. He looked small. Um but
• 41:48
  seeing some of the, you know, him and in
• 41:51
  the gym doing his little flex and things
• 41:54
  like that, you know, there's hope. And
• 41:57
  if you go back and you watch the
• 41:58
  Filmation series, the Filmation He-Man,
• 42:01
  which is kind of the aspect of this
• 42:02
  movie looks like it's going for, he's
• 42:05
  not crazy, you know, Brian Cage built
• 42:09
  like, you know, he's not ripped out of
• 42:12
  his his gourds here. He's uh he's very,
• 42:15
  you know, um fit, I guess, is the best
• 42:18
  word, right? Like he's he's cut, but
• 42:21
  he's not huge. And uh you know, you
• 42:24
  don't have to have like yeah, you're
• 42:26
  going to still be the strongest man.
• 42:28
  Like I mean, in the Filmation series,
• 42:29
  he's picking up boulders and stuff. And
• 42:31
  I'm sure I'm my fingers are crossed they
• 42:33
  have to have that signature boulder
• 42:35
  throw in the movie. [laughter]
• 42:38
  Um but again, you know, that can be
• 42:42
  done. It's like he's got super strength
• 42:43
  like a Captain America kind of thing
• 42:45
  going on, right? He's got the power. So,
• 42:48
  you know, I'm okay with him not being
• 42:51
  crazy huge. Although, you know, yeah,
• 42:54
  the toy line, that's how he is. But I
• 42:57
  think this is kind of playing more to
• 42:59
  the Filmation cartoon. And as long as
• 43:01
  they keep that again, kind of like what
• 43:02
  Jay's saying, I have to see it. But I
• 43:06
  think I'll be okay with it.
• 43:08
  >> We didn't get much of the costume in
• 43:09
  that photo. Like like Jay mentioned, the
• 43:11
  almost kiltlike
• 43:13
  garb that he's wearing,
• 43:15
  >> that Roman kind of look to it, right?
• 43:17
  Yeah.
• 43:18
  >> And [snorts] the chest armor, we didn't
• 43:19
  get a good look at either outside of
• 43:20
  that, you know, that that merchandise
• 43:23
  stand that we got or wherever that was.
• 43:25
  Uh we didn't see anything from the
• 43:26
  front. All I we did see there are
• 43:28
  leather straps, you know, holding that
• 43:30
  chest armor together. I'm still hopeful
• 43:32
  that we'll get some kind of, you know,
• 43:34
  metal on the front of that thing. And
• 43:36
  obviously the the cross is is a huge
• 43:38
  thing. I've said that before about lore
• 43:40
  of He-Man. I was not a fan of that 200X
• 43:43
  He-Man symbol. Even now, like they've
• 43:45
  kind of altered it into the big H. I'm
• 43:47
  not a huge fan of it either. So, uh,
• 43:49
  talk about that a little bit. Like, what
• 43:51
  are your guys, you know, thoughts on the
• 43:53
  symbol?
• 43:55
  >> I mean, I'm a big Iron Cross fan as
• 43:57
  well, but I don't mind the H. Honestly,
• 43:59
  I'm a big battle armor fan and the
• 44:01
  battle armor had the H on it, so it kind
• 44:04
  of, you know, that kind of symbolizes
• 44:06
  that. I know that it's not the battle
• 44:08
  armor. They just made it smaller on
• 44:09
  there. Um the 2000X one, yeah, is kind
• 44:13
  of wonky. And then I'm not a fan of like
• 44:15
  the new CGI with the two swords or
• 44:17
  whatever that made. That one I wasn't a
• 44:19
  fan.
• 44:21
  >> Yeah, I'm um I mean I I love I love the
• 44:24
  Cordite. I love the the Cordite cross.
• 44:28
  >> They're so iconic to human. They really
• 44:30
  are. And people try to make this
• 44:32
  connection with the Iron Cross, right,
• 44:35
  from uh from World War II. That's
• 44:38
  ridiculous. That that's just a a dumb
• 44:40
  connection all all around. Um the the
• 44:43
  the cross itself, you know, if if you
• 44:46
  want to put in some sort of religious
• 44:47
  overtones, it is what you make of it.
• 44:49
  That's really that's really what it
• 44:50
  comes down to. But at the end of the
• 44:52
  day, it is iconically He-Man. Would I be
• 44:55
  disappointed if it didn't make it on
• 44:56
  screen? Kind of. Uh well, no. I would
• 45:00
  really be disappointed. But just like
• 45:02
  the original 87 movie, they replaced
• 45:04
  everything with like, you know, dragon
• 45:06
  heraldry, which kind of which was kind
• 45:09
  of neat. Um, but would I have would I
• 45:11
  have would I have loved to see the
• 45:12
  iconic um iron cross? Yes. Would it kill
• 45:16
  me if I saw an H instead of a a cross?
• 45:20
  It would be definitely be one of those
• 45:22
  moments. I'm like, wow, it's He-Man,
• 45:23
  right? They had the big H thing, right?
• 45:26
  Um, but I I I if it if if the if the
• 45:30
  action is good, if the story is good, I
• 45:32
  would get over it pretty quickly. But
• 45:33
  yeah, I would love to see the Iron Cross
• 45:35
  one.
• 45:38
  >> All right, so switching gears a little
• 45:40
  bit, but still talking about the movie
• 45:41
  story-wise. Okay, this has been a big
• 45:43
  topic of discussion, especially on my
• 45:45
  channel, because I've I've kind of
• 45:47
  theorized how I think things may go for
• 45:49
  this movie, and I could be totally off,
• 45:50
  but I feel like a lot of people like
• 45:52
  really are trying to piece everything,
• 45:54
  the little bits that we have gotten into
• 45:56
  like a story that may formulate out on
• 45:58
  formulate on screen. So, I don't know if
• 46:01
  you guys have watched any of the stuff
• 46:02
  that I put out, but I kind of theorized
• 46:04
  that obviously Adam gets to Earth
• 46:06
  somehow. We don't really know how that
• 46:08
  happens, right? You know, Mike brought
• 46:09
  up a good point with or actually Jay put
• 46:11
  up a good point with Uncle Fisto
• 46:12
  possibly going over to Earth with him.
• 46:15
  Makes sense. Uh, we did get those
• 46:17
  pictures of Tila on Earth running with
• 46:19
  Adam. So, I always I kind of piecing it
• 46:23
  together is that we also got that CGI
• 46:25
  character also on Earth, which I'm
• 46:27
  claiming is Beastman that we don't know
• 46:29
  yet. But
• 46:29
  >> yeah,
• 46:30
  >> I've been kind of trying to piece
• 46:32
  everything together and I've come up
• 46:33
  with like what I think may happen is
• 46:35
  Adam is sent to Eternia for somehow.
• 46:37
  They're saying it's an accident now that
• 46:39
  that's come out a little bit. Okay.
• 46:41
  However they find him, I think Skeletor
• 46:43
  probably knows where he is or maybe he's
• 46:45
  looking for that power sword that is
• 46:46
  also on Earth. Adam happens to be there.
• 46:49
  Attorneyia knows that he's there
• 46:51
  obviously. So there Tie is there. They
• 46:53
  send Tila. I'm hoping Orcco kind of goes
• 46:55
  with her cuz that also follows the, you
• 46:57
  know, the the the story lines from the
• 46:59
  cartoon. So I'm kind of piecing that
• 47:01
  together. And then finally they have to
• 47:02
  realize that they have to bring Adam
• 47:04
  home to protect him and the sword. and
• 47:07
  that's where it kind of takes off and
• 47:08
  and he finds out he's He-Man, stuff like
• 47:11
  that. So, that's what I've kind of
• 47:12
  pieced together. I don't know if any of
• 47:14
  it makes sense, but how about you guys?
• 47:18
  That's a great theory. I think uh you
• 47:21
  know, him being sent to Earth. Um
• 47:24
  possibly Fisto is there as well kind of
• 47:26
  as a protector. Uh I definitely agree
• 47:29
  with you. I think that giant CGI, I
• 47:30
  mean, the ball was like 4 feet above the
• 47:33
  guy's head. You know, that's a pretty
• 47:35
  big character. So, I would love to see a
• 47:37
  giant beast man just towering, you know,
• 47:39
  200x kind of style where he's so huge.
• 47:43
  Um, and then yeah, and then sending Tila
• 47:46
  down with Orcco, that would be
• 47:47
  fantastic. Uh, obviously I'm a big Orcco
• 47:50
  fan, right? [laughter]
• 47:51
  Um, I would love to see him, you know,
• 47:54
  and as much of the movie as possible.
• 47:56
  And then bringing him back. Yeah, I
• 47:58
  think there was um
• 48:01
  kind of when that drone was flying over,
• 48:03
  there was that shot of him being
• 48:05
  captured by it looked like Skeletor and
• 48:08
  possibly and Skeletor was in street
• 48:11
  clothes, right? So
• 48:13
  >> maybe he's he may or Adam is brought
• 48:15
  back to Eternia by Skeletor, let alone,
• 48:19
  you know, Tila.
• 48:21
  I have I have a hunch about why he's in
• 48:23
  street clothes there and and it's
• 48:24
  because for CGI reason and and if you
• 48:26
  notice in that picture and it's a really
• 48:28
  bad picture. It's far away, but his face
• 48:30
  is like totally whited out,
• 48:32
  >> right?
• 48:33
  >> So, I I have a feeling that's all for
• 48:34
  CGI purposes, but at least that's what
• 48:36
  I'm hoping that's going through my head.
• 48:38
  But what about you, Jay, about uh
• 48:39
  story-wise?
• 48:41
  >> Yeah, I mean, anything can happen. Um,
• 48:43
  so um, you know, Evelyn and and Skeletor
• 48:45
  being being sorcerers, sorcerers and
• 48:47
  sorceresses. Um, you know, it could just
• 48:50
  be an astral projection, you know what I
• 48:52
  mean, where they're where they're trying
• 48:53
  to trick him into into revealing uh
• 48:55
  certain things, but they they have
• 48:57
  figured out who he is, right? Um, so
• 48:59
  basically, you know, they they bring him
• 49:01
  into some sort of like astral plane,
• 49:03
  right? Where they show him, you know,
• 49:05
  may maybe they're walking around Earth,
• 49:07
  uh, kind of like Allah uh Loki, right,
• 49:10
  in in Thor, you know, when, uh, when
• 49:12
  when Thor's captured and he goes and
• 49:14
  he's got this trench coat on, right? Uh,
• 49:16
  he looks very human, but in reality,
• 49:18
  he's just playing around trying trying
• 49:20
  to trick Thor, right? I think they're
• 49:22
  borrowing from a lot of different um
• 49:24
  movies and and tropes, right, for for
• 49:27
  movies that have come before. But that's
• 49:28
  easy because that's actually how you do
• 49:29
  it in films. Um, but in terms in terms
• 49:33
  of what I I can I can follow the the the
• 49:35
  the story you're figuring out. Um, 100%
• 49:38
  I I would think that, you know, the fact
• 49:39
  that Tila is on Earth, she definitely
• 49:41
  was sent there to try and to try and
• 49:43
  wrangle him back. Um, either that or
• 49:45
  it's just a freaking stupid nod to the
• 49:47
  original 87 film, which is just
• 49:48
  hilarious. Um, but but yeah, I I I would
• 49:52
  like to think that that's that's more
• 49:53
  along the lines of what's actually going
• 49:55
  to happen. And I would love it if Orgo
• 49:57
  was actually with Tila. I think that
• 49:58
  would be freaking awesome. And maybe,
• 50:00
  you know, maybe he's his his magic works
• 50:02
  better on Earth. Or maybe it doesn't.
• 50:03
  Who knows? Um, and of course, yeah, it
• 50:05
  would be great if we just see Beastman
• 50:07
  just lumbering around, jumping and
• 50:09
  trying to catch them. It would be it
• 50:10
  would be really cool to see that. So,
• 50:12
  um, you know, I think that would be
• 50:14
  great. I think it'll be awesome.
• 50:17
  >> Let's segue into hemania.com. So, I need
• 50:20
  to tell everybody out there,
• 50:23
  hemania.com. Uh before this it was for
• 50:26
  eternia.com so that made the switcheroo
• 50:28
  but how did you guys get involved with
• 50:31
  uh heia.com and I got to ask do you know
• 50:33
  where they're getting their their info
• 50:35
  from because they're breaking every
• 50:36
  piece of news for He-Man out there right
• 50:39
  now and it's great. It's great. Shout
• 50:40
  out to them.
• 50:42
  Um, I'll let I'll let Mike take a quick
• 50:45
  stab at this, then we'll [laughter]
• 50:46
  we'll get to the we'll get this part.
• 50:48
  But
• 50:48
  >> I mean, the the way I got involved with
• 50:51
  hemania.com was um the site runner AJ uh
• 50:55
  reached out to me and was saying that he
• 50:58
  had a new project which was a podcast
• 51:00
  that he wanted to do called the attorney
• 51:03
  of four. And at first he wouldn't even
• 51:05
  tell me who was involved. He just said
• 51:06
  like, "Oh, I'll tell you once everyone
• 51:08
  else agrees." And I'm like, "Well, you
• 51:10
  know, four guys talking about Masters
• 51:11
  Universe. Yeah, I'm in like doesn't even
• 51:13
  I don't care who it is. Um, so this was
• 51:18
  I think May I want to say, right?
• 51:20
  Somewhere around there. And uh he got us
• 51:24
  on when he told me it was Mega J. And
• 51:27
  then it's Shane from Powerhouse
• 51:29
  Animation who, you know, helped make
• 51:31
  Revolution Revelation. Uh I was over the
• 51:34
  moon. Was like, "Wow, like these guys
• 51:38
  are all really talented and then I'm
• 51:39
  just a fanboy over here." But, you know,
• 51:41
  it was it was really cool to be a part
• 51:44
  of it. Um, and it's still ongoing. So,
• 51:47
  you know, we've become close over the
• 51:49
  past few months and, uh, yeah, I've just
• 51:52
  really enjoyed it. Kind of made new
• 51:54
  friendships through that. You know, the
• 51:55
  reason Jay and I became a little bit
• 51:57
  closer as well. Um, as far as how he
• 51:59
  gets his stories,
• 52:01
  he's got connections. I don't know what
• 52:02
  to tell you. I mean, I can't I don't
• 52:04
  know what those are. I can't really go
• 52:05
  into that, but he's uh he's, you know,
• 52:08
  got some people that bring him stories
• 52:12
  because they know uh he's the the spot
• 52:15
  to to get it out.
• 52:16
  >> Uh yeah, I'm I'm very much a similar u
• 52:20
  vein on that segment. Um, but I think
• 52:23
  Mike left out the the fact that we knew
• 52:26
  AJ from before like like you know we've
• 52:28
  been we've been following all I've been
• 52:29
  following um for attorney.com for quite
• 52:32
  some time and um at some point um
• 52:37
  >> inevitably you reach out and say hi and
• 52:39
  AJ is very nice. He actually reaches out
• 52:41
  back and says hey uh cool to meet you
• 52:43
  and you know um you know is is a very
• 52:46
  cool dude right? So and then eventually
• 52:48
  he just came around and said hey would
• 52:49
  you like to be on a podcast? I'm like,
• 52:50
  "What's a podcast?" Right? And um and uh
• 52:55
  so uh you know, I was actually I wasn't
• 52:58
  really joking actually. Uh but but he's
• 53:00
  like, "You know, do you want to be a
• 53:01
  part?" I said, "Is that is that a
• 53:02
  YouTube thing?" He's like, "No, it's a
• 53:03
  radio thing." I'm like, "What? Is it
• 53:05
  radio?" I was like, "All right,
• 53:06
  whatever, man." Like, "Cool. Let's let's
• 53:08
  do it." Right. And um
• 53:10
  >> and yeah, he wouldn't tell that's the
• 53:11
  word. That's the craziest part. He
• 53:12
  wouldn't tell us who's in the in the
• 53:14
  podcast. I was like, "Okay, who's in the
• 53:15
  podcast?" He's like, "I'll tell you when
• 53:16
  everybody says it." I was like, "What?
• 53:17
  Really?" I was like, "Okay, fine.
• 53:18
  Whatever. I don't care." talk about
• 53:20
  He-Man. Sure, why not? And then I found
• 53:22
  out, yeah, it was uh it was it was Shane
• 53:24
  and and uh and Mike and I was like,
• 53:26
  "Cool." Uh you know, I know I kind of
• 53:28
  know those guys. Let's let's do this,
• 53:30
  right? And and it was fun. And it's
• 53:32
  still fun, right? Actually, we're going
• 53:33
  to be doing a segment right after right
• 53:34
  after this segment. Um and shortly
• 53:38
  thereafter, um we meaning Mike and
• 53:42
  myself. Um no, this was actually when it
• 53:45
  was still called for attorneyia.com. Uh
• 53:47
  but shortly thereafter um Mike and
• 53:50
  myself started talking because I was
• 53:52
  heading over to San Diego uh for San
• 53:54
  Diego Comic- Con and Mike and I just had
• 53:57
  this crazy No, actually no, I didn't
• 53:59
  have the crazy I was just enjoying
• 54:00
  myself, you know, doing the foronia
• 54:02
  stuff and then Mike decides to tell me a
• 54:06
  crazy story and I'm gonna let Mike tell
• 54:08
  you that that crazy story and then we're
• 54:09
  going to explain why He-Mania.com is is
• 54:12
  now a thing uh with our current project.
• 54:16
  I think that's probably the best way to
• 54:17
  go about it. So, Mike, tell this great
• 54:19
  story you're telling everybody now.
• 54:20
  >> Um, yeah. I mean, so there was one day
• 54:24
  after doing our podcast um where, you
• 54:30
  know, we were all just chatting about
• 54:32
  and uh everyone was getting ready to
• 54:33
  sign off and I was talking with Jay. Um,
• 54:36
  we were talking actually about YouTube
• 54:38
  stuff cuz I was trying to get my YouTube
• 54:39
  up and going and we started talking
• 54:42
  about him coming out for San Diego
• 54:43
  Comic- Con and me being able to see him
• 54:45
  meet in person and be able to hang out
• 54:47
  and um, we were talking about cons. And
• 54:50
  I told him, "Man, I miss Power Con. That
• 54:52
  was my favorite con even more so than
• 54:54
  San Diego Comic-Con." And I told him,
• 54:57
  you know, when it moved to Ohio, I
• 54:59
  actually went online one night. This was
• 55:01
  like December of 2021 and I I started
• 55:04
  this Kickstarter calling it Masters Con
• 55:07
  and started I'm like if I could throw a
• 55:10
  con, what would I want? And I started
• 55:11
  putting all this stuff in to
• 55:13
  Kickstarter. I submitted it and
• 55:16
  Kickstarter kicked it right back to me
• 55:18
  the next day and they're like, "Yeah, we
• 55:21
  that's a great idea, but it's a little
• 55:23
  too bare bones," they said. And uh I
• 55:27
  kind of had this realization of like
• 55:30
  what am I doing? like I don't know what
• 55:31
  I'm doing. How can I throw a con? Like I
• 55:33
  have no experience. And Jay responds and
• 55:36
  goes, you know, I have experience
• 55:39
  throwing cons. I've actually done this
• 55:41
  several times in Canada. And he's like,
• 55:45
  right now actually would be a perfect
• 55:47
  time for a Masters Universe con. There's
• 55:49
  a movie next year
• 55:52
  and there's toys and at the time we
• 55:54
  didn't even know there's now video game,
• 55:55
  but we at the time we didn't even think
• 55:57
  about that. And he's like, "What do you
• 55:59
  think?" He's like, "Do you you you think
• 56:01
  you'd be up for like doing this for
• 56:03
  real?" And I'm like, "Uh, check." Yes.
• 56:07
  This is my dream. Yes. Uh, so then we
• 56:10
  took it to uh AJ and Shane and started
• 56:13
  talking to them and they were like,
• 56:15
  "Man, that's really cool." And that's a
• 56:17
  great idea. You guys are crazy.
• 56:19
  [laughter]
• 56:20
  We took it to Toy Habits and we started
• 56:22
  talking with Michael and Toy Sorceress
• 56:24
  and and they were like, "That's really
• 56:26
  cool. You guys are crazy.
• 56:29
  It was always there was always the crazy
• 56:30
  part [laughter]
• 56:31
  that never end never stopped. It was
• 56:33
  like you guys are nuts,
• 56:34
  >> right?
• 56:34
  >> So,
• 56:35
  >> so then Jay kind of gave me this
• 56:36
  checklist and uh you know finding a
• 56:39
  hotel and and making sure you know uh
• 56:43
  starting a business basically and things
• 56:45
  like that. And um I I just went through
• 56:48
  and started checking everything off. We
• 56:50
  did a soft launch uh soft announcement
• 56:54
  um on the toy habits stream saying,
• 56:56
  "Hey, we're doing this thing, you know,
• 56:59
  and all of a sudden people were like,
• 57:03
  "Can I help? I know this person. I I I I
• 57:06
  actually used to work at PowerCon. I
• 57:08
  would love to help." I And it was funny
• 57:11
  because at first Jay and I were like,
• 57:13
  "We need to build a team. You know,
• 57:15
  we're going to have to start looking
• 57:16
  around." We didn't have to look at all
• 57:18
  like literally people were coming to us
• 57:22
  it and it was really cool to see that
• 57:24
  from the community like
• 57:27
  this vision I've had is really filling a
• 57:30
  hole that a lot of people had and um
• 57:35
  it's just really fun and you know
• 57:38
  humbling honestly to be spearheading
• 57:40
  this uh new project that we're doing
• 57:42
  that's
• 57:44
  um yeah it's even hard to like speak
• 57:46
  about because it's like my dream come
• 57:48
  true honestly. It's just so crazy that
• 57:50
  this is happening.
• 57:51
  >> All right. So So let me go from there.
• 57:54
  You you got you got the idea now.
• 57:56
  >> Yes.
• 57:56
  >> You want to do this He-Man powered
• 58:00
  convention.
• 58:01
  >> What happened after that? You got the
• 58:02
  idea. You went to Jay. Jay said, "Let's
• 58:04
  do this." You got some backing of some
• 58:05
  other people in the community. What
• 58:07
  happens now?
• 58:08
  >> So then it became, okay, I don't have
• 58:11
  the kind of funds to just throw a con.
• 58:13
  And Jay's like, "Well, me neither, but
• 58:16
  you know what?" He's like, "Let's come
• 58:18
  up with some fundraising ideas." And and
• 58:20
  we came, we had uh Google Meets with
• 58:23
  like, you know, 12, 15 people throwing
• 58:26
  out all kinds of ideas. Jay's talking
• 58:28
  about selling his collection at one
• 58:30
  point. He even made a video and he's
• 58:31
  like sends it to us. He's like, "What do
• 58:33
  you think about this?" And we're like,
• 58:34
  "Whoa, whoa, whoa. No need to sell your
• 58:36
  collection." Like, "No, no, no." Um, and
• 58:40
  >> hey, you know what's you got to make it
• 58:41
  happen, man. Yeah, that's true. Like we
• 58:43
  were I was right there with you. I was
• 58:45
  going to start selling stuff too and you
• 58:47
  know I didn't want to but I'm like hey
• 58:49
  if this is going to make it real then it
• 58:52
  is what it is. Uh but no, we got a lot
• 58:55
  of great feedback and it seemed like
• 58:56
  going back to Kickstarter was the the
• 58:58
  the way to do it. It brought a sense of,
• 59:01
  you know, legitimacy to it and people
• 59:03
  feel comfortable like, okay, I can put
• 59:06
  my money into this site and feel like
• 59:09
  it's secure, right? Not just like
• 59:11
  PayPaling Jay and I or something, you
• 59:13
  know? [laughter] So, uh, it it and we
• 59:16
  could really tell our story there. uh
• 59:18
  which I thought you know Jay's amazing
• 59:21
  with the the um
• 59:24
  digital platforms you know he's website
• 59:27
  design and graphic designer and you know
• 59:29
  really being able to just tell you guys
• 59:32
  what we have planned and um it's it's
• 59:37
  really come together uh the response to
• 59:39
  the Kickstarter has
• 59:42
  just again left me speechless where I've
• 59:45
  been shocked at the response
• 59:47
  Uh we're doing really great. We're about
• 59:49
  halfway through and we've already hit uh
• 59:52
  we're about to hit our second uh
• 59:54
  stretch.
• 59:54
  >> So, you know, Lawrence, it's actually uh
• 59:57
  crazy. We we actually have a a clip
• 1:00:00
  actually if you want to if you want to
• 1:00:01
  see it uh of of where uh we actually hit
• 1:00:05
  our first goal in under six hours. It it
• 1:00:09
  was it was humbling and shocking and and
• 1:00:11
  we're hugely grateful to the community
• 1:00:14
  for uh for helping us reach this
• 1:00:16
  milestone. And this this is this is a
• 1:00:18
  funny clip because um
• 1:00:21
  >> yeah, I'm not even on it because I was
• 1:00:22
  so unexpected. We
• 1:00:24
  >> you'll see. We bring like in afterwards,
• 1:00:26
  but you'll see this this is a fun clip.
• 1:00:28
  Literally like, well, you know what? I I
• 1:00:29
  I I went to Kickstarter. I did this and
• 1:00:31
  this and this. I'm like, huh?
• 1:00:34
  Oh my god. Oh my Oh my god. Oh my god.
• 1:00:38
  Oh my Oh my Oh my god. Oh my god.
• 1:00:44
  Get him on a
• 1:00:47
  >> This IS
• 1:00:49
  [screaming]
• 1:00:51
  [laughter]
• 1:00:55
  like sitting on my couch and we were
• 1:00:57
  talking about going live in like another
• 1:01:00
  hour and then we were we were so close.
• 1:01:04
  I
• 1:01:05
  know. Uh Jay's like, "Let's let's get
• 1:01:07
  on. Let's let's get on for the for the
• 1:01:10
  we knew it was going to happen."
• 1:01:11
  >> So yeah, we we were we were completely
• 1:01:13
  flabbergasted that would happen in in
• 1:01:15
  just under six hours. And and it was it
• 1:01:17
  was an incredible moment and and we
• 1:01:19
  really have uh the community to thank.
• 1:01:21
  As a matter of fact, if we if we if we
• 1:01:23
  head over to um uh the actual uh
• 1:01:26
  Kickstarter itself, um you can actually
• 1:01:29
  see that it's um it's hit a goal of
• 1:01:32
  12,000. Oh wow. Oh my god. We actually
• 1:01:35
  jumped.
• 1:01:36
  >> Holy.
• 1:01:37
  >> Are we over 13?
• 1:01:38
  >> And look. Oh my god. Look at that.
• 1:01:42
  >> 32.
• 1:01:43
  >> Oh my god. 13. We We We've We We've
• 1:01:46
  We've broken the $13,000 mark, guys.
• 1:01:48
  Holy crap.
• 1:01:49
  >> Oh my god. That was That's incredible.
• 1:01:52
  >> That is incredible. Thank you to
• 1:01:53
  everybody who has been
• 1:01:55
  >> backers now.
• 1:01:56
  >> Thank you so much for for everybody who
• 1:01:58
  supported this project. This has been an
• 1:02:00
  absolute incredible incredible
• 1:02:02
  experience. Like seriously, we we we're
• 1:02:03
  we're so humbled by this. Yeah, we we we
• 1:02:05
  quickly reached our our first stretch
• 1:02:07
  goal like a few days later and now we're
• 1:02:10
  well on our way to our third stretch
• 1:02:11
  goal. So, this has just been an absolute
• 1:02:14
  incredible um um experience and oh my
• 1:02:17
  god, we're we're Hold on, hitting
• 1:02:19
  refresh. We are down to our
• 1:02:23
  >> Yeah, I was going to say there's got to
• 1:02:24
  be only a like 20some left of the
• 1:02:27
  founders package then.
• 1:02:28
  >> There's only 27 founder founder packages
• 1:02:30
  left. So,
• 1:02:32
  These are going these are going crazy.
• 1:02:34
  Like this is this is nuts. So
• 1:02:36
  >> So for the the if the people are
• 1:02:38
  listening on the podcast on Spotify, on
• 1:02:40
  Apple Podcast, so they've ra so far and
• 1:02:42
  it just jumped while we're we're filming
• 1:02:44
  this to $13,218
• 1:02:47
  which is wild. So kudos to you guys. And
• 1:02:51
  I got to ask you, what is the ultimate
• 1:02:54
  goal as far as dollar-wise to get this
• 1:02:56
  thing done?
• 1:02:58
  So, we have several stretch goals um
• 1:02:59
  that we would like to get accomplished,
• 1:03:02
  and it's all thanks to the community. We
• 1:03:04
  have surpassed our $10,000 stretch goal
• 1:03:06
  already. Um and it's it's it's all
• 1:03:09
  thanks to to everybody who's helped uh
• 1:03:11
  to to helped us to get here. We have a
• 1:03:13
  number of guests that uh that have
• 1:03:14
  already signed on. But, um to your to
• 1:03:17
  your to your question, Lawrence, first
• 1:03:19
  of all, the $5,000 threshold helped us
• 1:03:21
  to secure the venue. So, a huge thanks
• 1:03:23
  to everybody who helped us to get there
• 1:03:25
  in under six hours. You guys are
• 1:03:27
  absolutely incredible. It was it was
• 1:03:29
  just amazing and and we were gobsmacked
• 1:03:31
  when it happened. Our $10,000 stretch
• 1:03:33
  goal allowed us to secure additional
• 1:03:35
  rooms in the venue. Uh we were able to
• 1:03:37
  get breakout rooms and um um places that
• 1:03:41
  our our our guests can have keynote
• 1:03:42
  speaking engagements and and just meet
• 1:03:45
  and greets. It's it's amazing. We were
• 1:03:47
  able to to reach the $10,000 stretch
• 1:03:49
  goal. And today, as you just saw,
• 1:03:51
  hitting 13,000 plus. Now we're actually
• 1:03:54
  over the $13,000 mark. Um, we're only a
• 1:03:57
  few thousand short of our $15,000
• 1:04:00
  stretch goal. And this will allow us to
• 1:04:02
  actually get to the next level where
• 1:04:04
  we'll be able to secure additional
• 1:04:05
  spaces for even larger activities. The
• 1:04:07
  doors will open to new exciting
• 1:04:08
  experiences like cosplay zones, uh, uh,
• 1:04:11
  hands-on costumeuming workshops, guest
• 1:04:13
  speakers, uh, who have worked on Mass
• 1:04:15
  Universe projects, and special toy
• 1:04:17
  guests who brought our favorite action
• 1:04:18
  figures to life. This is my favorite one
• 1:04:20
  because I'm huge into cosplay and I
• 1:04:22
  really want to be able to invite a lot
• 1:04:24
  of cosplay guests who can help people to
• 1:04:26
  really uh you know get get their uh
• 1:04:28
  their cosplay uh goals in mind. If you
• 1:04:30
  want to share this this uh this screen
• 1:04:32
  again um uh Lawrence I can show the the
• 1:04:36
  sorry I was I was uh I can show the
• 1:04:39
  actual there we go. So um yeah I was
• 1:04:42
  just I was a wrong one. So I was I was
• 1:04:44
  just moving through uh these goals here.
• 1:04:47
  So, like I said, uh the the we already
• 1:04:49
  passed our our first venue uh stretch
• 1:04:51
  goal at 5,000. So, huge thanks to
• 1:04:53
  everybody for that. The $10,000 stretch
• 1:04:55
  goal. I just spoke about that a little
• 1:04:57
  earlier. And of course, I I just spoke
• 1:04:59
  about the $15,000 stretch goal, which we
• 1:05:01
  uh are hoping to reach very soon. And
• 1:05:03
  we've already broken through the $13,000
• 1:05:05
  mark. So, we're very close to our
• 1:05:07
  $15,000 stretch goal. So, a huge shout
• 1:05:08
  out to everybody who's helped to make
• 1:05:10
  that happen. At $20,000, this one, I
• 1:05:14
  think, is Mike's favorite. So Mike, why
• 1:05:15
  don't you go ahead and and talk about
• 1:05:16
  the $20,000.
• 1:05:17
  >> Yeah. So with the $20,000 stretch goal,
• 1:05:20
  this is going to allow us to kind of
• 1:05:22
  reach out to the bigger names. Um you
• 1:05:25
  know, we want big name guests, right?
• 1:05:28
  And you know, people that worked on
• 1:05:30
  Masters Universe that are not just I
• 1:05:32
  mean the reason we're doing this a lot
• 1:05:33
  of this is in LA because there's a lot
• 1:05:36
  of the talent in LA. So travel costs
• 1:05:39
  will be minimal. But with that being
• 1:05:42
  said, there are people that worked on it
• 1:05:43
  that you know are in other parts of the
• 1:05:46
  country, possibly even international
• 1:05:48
  that we would love to bring and of
• 1:05:51
  course we need funds for that, right? So
• 1:05:54
  with the hitting the 20k, we'll be able
• 1:05:56
  to a lot some of the funds from that to
• 1:05:59
  go towards bringing in those kind of
• 1:06:01
  guests. As well as we really want to
• 1:06:03
  look into screening uh the 87 Masters
• 1:06:07
  Universe film, possibly maybe the Secret
• 1:06:09
  of the Sword 2000X cartoon.
• 1:06:13
  >> And of course, we are the ultimate goal
• 1:06:15
  is as as you asked uh Lawrence is is
• 1:06:17
  25,000. If we can reach our $25,000
• 1:06:20
  stretch goal, it allows us for
• 1:06:22
  everything to happen. Like the maximum
• 1:06:24
  amount of space that we can get for this
• 1:06:26
  event and there's even more space in the
• 1:06:28
  hotel that we've uh we've secured. Um
• 1:06:31
  and more guests, more space, more
• 1:06:33
  activities, you know, high-profile
• 1:06:35
  guests, the the at 25,000 everything
• 1:06:38
  becomes a reality. And um you know,
• 1:06:40
  we're hugely I felt to everybody who's
• 1:06:42
  already supported us and we're very very
• 1:06:44
  close to $15,000. So that that only
• 1:06:46
  means that another $10,000 after that we
• 1:06:48
  probably could uh you know fulfill all
• 1:06:51
  of our expectations and and really help
• 1:06:53
  to make this the best Master Universe
• 1:06:55
  convention, Master Universe convention.
• 1:06:57
  Uh because we do want Thundercats, we do
• 1:06:59
  want Silverhawks, we want all the other
• 1:07:02
  properties to join us, but this will
• 1:07:03
  definitely be a Masters Universe
• 1:07:05
  convention 100%.
• 1:07:07
  >> So you guys mentioned before about um
• 1:07:09
  founders set what or founders
• 1:07:11
  recognition sets. What exactly is that?
• 1:07:14
  So the founders recognition set is um
• 1:07:17
  the one of the rewards that we'd like uh
• 1:07:19
  to offer anyone who's who's willing to
• 1:07:21
  um fund the project for uh with us. And
• 1:07:24
  what that entails uh is uh we would like
• 1:07:27
  to recognize um people who are uh in the
• 1:07:30
  community who are wanting to bring this
• 1:07:32
  um project to life. Um the founder
• 1:07:35
  recognition set is in recognition and
• 1:07:36
  thanks uh for the people who are the
• 1:07:39
  first adopters who are making this
• 1:07:40
  happen. Um you we want these founders to
• 1:07:43
  rec be recognized and they receive a
• 1:07:46
  Motuniverse founders VIP badge and
• 1:07:48
  lanyard. So this gives you early access
• 1:07:50
  to the event uh front light access to
• 1:07:52
  all guests and featured attractions and
• 1:07:55
  all access to all after hours um
• 1:07:57
  attractions as well. Uh the want to give
• 1:08:01
  them a commemorative certificate. So
• 1:08:02
  actually I'll I'll bring these up.
• 1:08:04
  You'll get the VIP uh badge and lanyard.
• 1:08:07
  We do have a founding members medallion
• 1:08:10
  which is a substantial medallion. It's
• 1:08:14
  50 mm in size. It's very beautiful. It's
• 1:08:17
  actually uh goldplated and it's not
• 1:08:20
  really goldplated. It of course is just
• 1:08:21
  gold shiny um paint, but uh but it is
• 1:08:24
  beautiful and uh it's a a true it's a
• 1:08:28
  metal coin. It's not just um it's not
• 1:08:30
  just a 3D printed coin. It really is a
• 1:08:32
  metal coin. Uh it does say founding
• 1:08:34
  members medallion in recognition and
• 1:08:36
  thanks and on on the other side of the
• 1:08:38
  reverse we have a a different artwork
• 1:08:39
  which we're still working on uh
• 1:08:41
  presently. Uh and of course all the
• 1:08:43
  members names who are founding members
• 1:08:45
  and there's only 100 sets which is why
• 1:08:48
  we alluded to earlier we only have about
• 1:08:50
  27 left uh right as as of as of this
• 1:08:53
  moment. And uh the plaque recognizes uh
• 1:08:56
  the founding member who actually um you
• 1:08:58
  know uh put uh their efforts for this uh
• 1:09:01
  for this um crowdfund. And of course
• 1:09:04
  they will be immortalized on a plaque
• 1:09:05
  which will be hung uh at the convention
• 1:09:08
  and the Howard Halls of Castle Grey
• 1:09:10
  Skull. Uh and of course on our website
• 1:09:12
  as well as hemania.com. They've also um
• 1:09:16
  said that they will actually have this
• 1:09:18
  founders members uh list of names on on
• 1:09:20
  their website as well uh for as long as
• 1:09:22
  as all the sites are up and as long as
• 1:09:24
  the convention is going. Uh it also
• 1:09:26
  includes a t-shirt. Um all this artwork
• 1:09:29
  is is is to be determined. This is not
• 1:09:32
  finalized artwork. It's just in
• 1:09:33
  position. And a founders members
• 1:09:36
  commemorative pin. Only founding members
• 1:09:38
  get this pin and it is a recognition and
• 1:09:40
  thanks uh for their efforts of the
• 1:09:42
  founding members. Now this pin if you
• 1:09:43
  wear it during the convention uh we will
• 1:09:46
  salute you with a good journey every
• 1:09:48
  time we see you and recognize [laughter]
• 1:09:49
  the pin as of course you are founding
• 1:09:52
  members. It's it's just our way of
• 1:09:54
  saying thank you and recognizing just
• 1:09:55
  how special you are uh to the
• 1:09:57
  Motuniverse event. So that's one of the
• 1:10:00
  ways that uh people can support. We also
• 1:10:01
  have other options. I mean we do have a
• 1:10:04
  regular pin which is pretty much just
• 1:10:05
  the mountainse logo that's for $10. We
• 1:10:09
  also have the Motuniverse mug at $25.
• 1:10:11
  Uh, a number of people have already
• 1:10:13
  started to back that. We also have the
• 1:10:15
  Multuniverse regular t-shirt. This is
• 1:10:17
  not the founding member shirt. It's just
• 1:10:18
  a regular t-shirt, but it does look
• 1:10:20
  nice. And we have a wonderful set of
• 1:10:21
  designs on this. It's not final artwork.
• 1:10:23
  And then we also have the VIP package.
• 1:10:26
  Now, this is very important because the
• 1:10:28
  VIP package for the Kickstarter is an
• 1:10:30
  exclusive price for the VIP set, which
• 1:10:33
  will not be offered outside of a
• 1:10:35
  Kickstarter. As you can see here, it is
• 1:10:37
  a Kickstarter exclusive price at $60
• 1:10:40
  where the regular price is $100. Once,
• 1:10:43
  and this is for early adopters who wish
• 1:10:45
  to support the event uh through
• 1:10:47
  Kickstarter, we really appreciate all
• 1:10:49
  your support and your help. Uh once the
• 1:10:51
  Kickstarter is over, it will revert back
• 1:10:52
  to the $100 price tag. So, this is your
• 1:10:55
  only chance pretty much to get it at a
• 1:10:57
  $60 instead of a $100 uh VIP. Uh, with
• 1:11:00
  the VIP uh, badge, you get a VIP badge
• 1:11:03
  and lanyard, one hour early access to
• 1:11:05
  the exhibit floor on Saturday, early
• 1:11:07
  access to all events, priority access,
• 1:11:09
  meet and greet, signings and featured
• 1:11:11
  attractions, access to our after hours
• 1:11:13
  programming, and a a single Motuniverse
• 1:11:16
  pin, which is not included with the VIP
• 1:11:18
  badge. Uh, this one's only available for
• 1:11:21
  uh, the VIP package. Um, now this is not
• 1:11:23
  the founders badge, the founders pin. It
• 1:11:25
  is the regular uh, Multiverse pin. But
• 1:11:28
  again, uh an excellent value at $60
• 1:11:31
  instead of a $100 VIP ticket. So, uh
• 1:11:34
  again, this is all in early. These are
• 1:11:37
  all for early adopters and people who
• 1:11:38
  want to help uh to help fund this event
• 1:11:41
  uh before it even before we start
• 1:11:42
  selling tickets and have any anything.
• 1:11:44
  We're really grateful to the entire
• 1:11:46
  community for helping us along with
• 1:11:47
  this. And the response has been, as you
• 1:11:50
  as you know, the response has been
• 1:11:51
  mind-blowing. Uh so, we really hope that
• 1:11:54
  we can reach our $25,000 goal.
• 1:11:56
  So, first and foremost, I got to tell
• 1:11:58
  you, I love the name Motuniverse. I
• 1:12:00
  think that's fantastic. I I when I saw
• 1:12:02
  it, uh that's one of the reasons why I
• 1:12:03
  reached out to you guys to kind of have
• 1:12:05
  you on the podcast talk about this a
• 1:12:06
  little bit. But it's such a great idea
• 1:12:09
  to kind of have a Masters of Universe
• 1:12:11
  centric con of its own cuz I don't think
• 1:12:14
  people out there realize how popular
• 1:12:16
  this IP really is from the people out
• 1:12:19
  there over in Germany, which I know it's
• 1:12:21
  huge. United States is huge. Canada is
• 1:12:23
  huge. So, like bringing everybody
• 1:12:25
  together for this, I think is going to
• 1:12:26
  be amazing. I do have a couple
• 1:12:28
  questions. Uh, for the people out there
• 1:12:30
  listening who do listen to my channel
• 1:12:32
  for Masters Universe, the um the $150
• 1:12:35
  package, you said there's 27 left. That
• 1:12:37
  that's separate from the VIP package,
• 1:12:39
  correct? So, there's no need to buy both
• 1:12:40
  or is there a need to buy both?
• 1:12:42
  >> No. Uh, well, Mike, you want to take
• 1:12:44
  this one?
• 1:12:45
  >> Yeah. So, the the founders package comes
• 1:12:48
  with a founders VIP pass. So, you're
• 1:12:51
  technically a VIP, but even
• 1:12:53
  >> like more
• 1:12:55
  >> uh recognized because the founders VIP
• 1:12:57
  pass will be separate than the VIP pass.
• 1:12:59
  It's going to there's only going to be a
• 1:13:01
  hundred of them that'll say like you're
• 1:13:03
  a founder. Um, but
• 1:13:05
  >> on the pass itself, it actually has a
• 1:13:06
  design, a wonderful design.
• 1:13:07
  >> We're going to have a design on the pass
• 1:13:09
  itself as well as, you know, you got
• 1:13:10
  your little lapel pin, too, you can have
• 1:13:12
  on your lanyard. Uh, so we'll easily
• 1:13:14
  recognize you or you can wear your shirt
• 1:13:16
  and then you really recognize that
• 1:13:17
  you're a founder. Um, but you know,
• 1:13:20
  we're going to recognize everybody
• 1:13:21
  honestly and all the VIPs because I'll
• 1:13:23
  see the VIP passes and I'll I'm gonna
• 1:13:25
  still be thanking them just as much
• 1:13:27
  because everybody that's contributed to
• 1:13:29
  this
• 1:13:30
  >> um has been immensely helpful. Um, but
• 1:13:33
  yeah,
• 1:13:33
  >> but there is no but there is no need to
• 1:13:35
  buy the VIP and the founders package.
• 1:13:38
  You can just buy the one if you if you
• 1:13:39
  only need one, you can just buy the one.
• 1:13:41
  >> Yeah.
• 1:13:41
  >> Is there a limit on the I was say is
• 1:13:44
  there a limit on the VIP? No limit,
• 1:13:46
  right? There's
• 1:13:47
  >> no there's no there's no limit on the
• 1:13:48
  VIP. So,
• 1:13:48
  >> do you guys have a date yet or is that
• 1:13:51
  too far out of the woods?
• 1:13:52
  >> No, no, we do. Uh if you if you'd like
• 1:13:53
  to share the um if you'd like to share
• 1:13:55
  the uh the screen again. Uh heading over
• 1:13:57
  to our heading over to our website. Uh
• 1:14:00
  you can see here that it will be held at
• 1:14:02
  the Torrance Marriott in Roondo Beach,
• 1:14:04
  California, May 23rd and 24th, 2026.
• 1:14:06
  That is Memorial Day weekend and we are
• 1:14:09
  very excited to be partnering with um
• 1:14:11
  the Torrance Marriott. Uh a little bit
• 1:14:13
  of history on this. It actually was uh
• 1:14:15
  the venue for Power Con many times. So,
• 1:14:18
  a lot of people have fond memories of
• 1:14:20
  this uh of this um location.
• 1:14:22
  >> 2012 to 2018 Power Con was held in that
• 1:14:25
  place.
• 1:14:26
  >> And we, as you can see, we are counting
• 1:14:27
  it down 26 days, 14 hours, and 5 minutes
• 1:14:30
  left to go. And if anybody wants, they
• 1:14:32
  can sign up for the mail list. They can
• 1:14:33
  get the the the most up-to-date
• 1:14:34
  information. And anybody who wants to be
• 1:14:36
  a vendor because I know that's probably
• 1:14:38
  another question you have, Lawrence. Uh
• 1:14:40
  they can just type in the message here
• 1:14:41
  that I would like to be a vendor and we
• 1:14:45
  will add you to our vendor list and uh
• 1:14:47
  then give you information once it's
• 1:14:48
  available.
• 1:14:50
  >> Any idea on how many like vendor spots
• 1:14:52
  there'll be or is that's too far you
• 1:14:55
  know to know that? We have an we have an
• 1:14:56
  idea but that is a floating number as as
• 1:15:00
  the as as as we mentioned earlier as the
• 1:15:02
  pledges continue to roll in additional
• 1:15:04
  spaces get to open up.
• 1:15:05
  >> Yeah. So
• 1:15:06
  >> so you know as the kick exactly as we
• 1:15:08
  raise more funds with the Kickstarter
• 1:15:09
  that allows us to get more space and
• 1:15:11
  with more space we want to have more
• 1:15:13
  vendors.
• 1:15:14
  >> You guys heard it here first right? This
• 1:15:16
  is a con strictly for Masters of the
• 1:15:19
  Universe. Going to be held at the
• 1:15:20
  Torrance Marriott, Roondo Beach,
• 1:15:23
  California, May 23rd and 24th, 2026.
• 1:15:27
  Literally one month before the movie
• 1:15:30
  comes out. How hype is everybody going
• 1:15:32
  to be at this thing, man? That the fever
• 1:15:35
  is going to be pitched. I could already
• 1:15:37
  see this thing going to be a wildly
• 1:15:39
  successful venture for you guys because
• 1:15:42
  I don't think anybody understands like
• 1:15:44
  the momentum that He-Man and the Master
• 1:15:46
  Universe has right now. Mattel even said
• 1:15:48
  it, we touched on it earlier, me and UJ
• 1:15:50
  about, you know, toy prices starting to
• 1:15:52
  kind of kick off things for Mattel a
• 1:15:54
  little bit, you know, with Masters
• 1:15:55
  Universe. So, I think it's starting,
• 1:15:57
  man. I really do. I'm really excited for
• 1:16:00
  the things you guys are putting
• 1:16:01
  together. He media.com obviously and now
• 1:16:04
  Motuniverse, man. I'm super stoked. So,
• 1:16:06
  anything else you want to tell uh anyone
• 1:16:08
  listening to the podcast about Mo
• 1:16:10
  Universe before we kind of end the show?
• 1:16:13
  >> You know what? We just hope you guys
• 1:16:14
  will uh help support the event and uh
• 1:16:16
  the Kickstarter. Just uh search on Mo
• 1:16:19
  Universe on Kickstarter. It'll come up.
• 1:16:21
  It uh it's actually uh trending on on
• 1:16:24
  Kickstarter because we reached our goal
• 1:16:25
  so quickly. Um and we want to thank
• 1:16:27
  everybody out there who who has
• 1:16:28
  supported us so far. And uh keep those
• 1:16:31
  pledges rolling in, guys, because the
• 1:16:32
  more uh support we receive, the the the
• 1:16:35
  bigger the events we get. We are even
• 1:16:37
  possibly in talks. I'm not going to
• 1:16:39
  confirm or deny uh for maybe some
• 1:16:41
  exclusives, and I'm not going to tell
• 1:16:43
  you who the exclusives are from, but uh
• 1:16:45
  possibly we have some very exciting
• 1:16:47
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• 1:16:49
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