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State of the Program · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Whether you like it or don't like it, learn the love it
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because it is the best thing. Go on.
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And welcome back to the Boundary Corner podcasts and a yearly
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holiday tradition unlike any other with the state of the
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program. Along with my partner Brian
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Siegler, hopefully you'll be joining us soon.
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Jonathan Talley, our special guests, Robbie Compton, our
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favorite coach, Where would the hell Phil went because Phil was
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on here when we hit the button and they said devices are not
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connected. So we are having some technical
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difficulties with Sally and Phil tonight, but we're working
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through those. But as we work through those, I
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want to say a big welcome to everybody.
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This is State of the program Home for the Holidays edition.
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It is festive in this bitch. It is festive in this bitch.
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So hope everybody had a a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, all
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all the good holidays out there, every holiday you may.
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Celebrate. Yes, Sir.
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And I will say this is a special episode and we lost Robbie.
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Hey, technical issues be be damned.
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We're we're pushing forward, fellas.
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Special edition guys, 'cause this is home for the holidays.
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Pretend that we're at a bar. Pretend that we're at a bar.
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You're at home for the holidays. You're hanging out with guys
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that you've known for a while. And you know what, you got to
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hit that little QR code at the top and you'll be able to join
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us and talk a little bit with us.
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And we'll kick it. We'll, we'll sip a little bit
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and it's going to be a good time.
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So anybody that wants to jump on, talk a little bit about
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these Hokies, feel free to do that.
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And we're going, we're going to get this thing going.
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Man, we got a lot of circling. Hey, we, we got Robbie in
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Clover, VA, good old Halifax County.
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The the Internet is is doing Halifax County Internet things.
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100%. 100% but we got Phil Bomas on the Mari baby wonderful
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sponsor all pound hokey going to hokey game since he was in the.
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Womb 40. Plus, years ago, if anybody can
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beat Phil on the number of years they've been attending games,
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please join us tonight. But I like what Brian said, and
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this is kind of the way it's going to be this year.
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Usually it's like the way it's been the last four years we've
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done this right. Four years, we started in 21,
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five years we did it in 2020. I don't remember anything
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anymore. But treat it this year like
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you're at a local bar with all your things you.
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Don't remember some of them. It is true.
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Well. Yeah, Hey, hey, hey.
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Yeah, mainly I'm. Not I'm not doing a whole bottle
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of white label Evan tonight. I I've got I've got the stone
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DIPA. One reason it's going to.
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Be a whole lot. Better than than that 19 where I
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just blacked out about 2/3 of the way through.
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Hokie football blacked out for like the past three years.
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We need to get back through. They get off the couch.
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Mr. Talley. I made.
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Hey, stone cold sober on painkillers though with all
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those tooth problems. Man, there's been a struggle
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over here. They don't work unless you drink
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a beer. There you go.
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Or. 6 right, that's right, that's right but so so Ron was
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saying like treat this like a bar.
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We're here, we're at the bar we got a big table everybody's got
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drinks or something somebody might not be drinking because if
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he drinks, who knows what's going to happen with his pain
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medication. And the only agenda we have is
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what we're bringing to the table.
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This is a very loose, loose operation.
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We're just going to kind of talk through what we're thinking on
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everything, how things are going and we want y'all's opinions
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too. Yep, because it is the state of
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the program and and that's is where do you feel we're at,
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whether it be financially, coach wise, player wise, anything you
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can think of. And you feel like you need to
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get off, get off your chest. So you know, and obviously over
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the every year, you know me, Tally Bron, Phil's jumped on a
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few times with us. He's disappeared, probably
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grabbing a beer right now. Robbie's jumping on with us.
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We're going to give you our honest opinions.
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We're we're not sitting here. There you go, Phil.
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We're we're not sitting here just like playing Christmas
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pictures, man. We're not just we, we never sit
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here and play through the ear of whoever.
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We're going to give you our honest to God opinion of what
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we're thinking about, how we're thinking about it, whether we
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feel good, bad, and different. That was 2022 was the year
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everything went sideways because everything was sideways at that
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point in time. And then this year it felt
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sideways for a long time and then it feels like it's not and
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sideways anymore. Still a lot of shit to do, but
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that's what we want to hear. Whatever you want to talk about,
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we'll talk about. We lost Robbie again.
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I see, Cat, you didn't. You didn't lose me.
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You told me to act like I was at the bar, so I'm making a noise.
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So I'm on, I'm on. Toss it to Phil first, because
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Phil, me and you texted and you talked with me and Brian and.
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We. Have not heard from you much
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since the hire has been made and I know you've been busy with
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work. Bill's always working.
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It'd be hilarious if you got a call right now and had to do
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something while you're on it. That'd be great, Bill.
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Also, if if y'all didn't know, if you paid attention to the
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Tech game down in the Bahamas, you should have seen Phil in the
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crowd because he went down there for the basketball tournament.
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He was easily spotable. Well, you know Phil.
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So. Phil, let's feel what your takes
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are because I know you've got some different opinions than
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other folks. I mean, yeah, that Bahamas trip
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was awesome though. Like we will walk around and see
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like all the players, all the coaches hanging out.
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It was really cool. So yeah, I mean, I'm really
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happy that Franklin's there to get our act together because we
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were a mess. I'm just in the show me stage,
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honestly. Like you just got to show me
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like that's all. Like, I love winning the
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recruiting. That's awesome.
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I love getting these high school kids.
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That's awesome. I love that we seem to be more
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professional, but you still got to show me next year's
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schedule's brutal, guys. Next year's schedule like at
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least travel wise, is brutal. Like lot.
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Of fucking. Travel on the road to Cal on the
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road to Dallas, on the road in Boston, on the road in Clemson,
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on the road in Maryland, on the road and I'm forgetting what
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Miami on the road in Miami. Like damn.
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Like, like he's going to get a real dose of not the big 10
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right is what he's going to get. So it's, it's, I don't know.
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I, I just want to see it. I, I just want I'm in the show
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me state of, of what we're seeing.
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And I assume we're not going to get a lot of information out
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because I'd assume he locks stuff down pretty hard as well,
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too, where there's not going to be a lot of information out and
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he don't really care about what anybody thinks.
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I would guess based on his hires.
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He don't give a shit what people care.
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I can tell you that. He he doesn't give a shit.
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Let me ask this though, Bill to you on the the the thing that I
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think I don't know how many of us were shocked by it, but when
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when everything came down money wise, Are you shocked that
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because the one thing you were concerned about, Oh, he's
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grabbing another one. The one thing this is just like
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a bar. The one thing you were concerned
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about was like the money and it seems like the next three or
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four years. That shit's in.
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Did that shock? You, I mean you first of all, I,
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I, I, I joke, I, I don't joke about when I say Phil has been
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going to games since he was in his room.
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His dad was an alumni. It was his alma mater.
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It's Phil's alma mater. And literally he was going there
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since, you know, But were you shocked that when everything
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came down that the money just came rolling in?
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I don't know if shocked is the right word.
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Again, I just, I want to see if it's sustainable long term
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because it seems like every program's throwing money at it,
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right? Like shit, Cincinnati's
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committed. I mean, no, what?
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Not Cincinnati. Wisconsin's committed to
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football now and paying money. Like everybody's committed to
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putting money towards football because they realize how
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important it is. So I don't know if shocked is
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the right word. I just think that I don't think
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people have been asked like Jay Pearson's been on the interview
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circuit, man, he's been doing great.
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And it's like he literally was like, it's basically like you
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got to ask these people for money.
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Like if the answer what I the answer's no if you don't ask.
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And a lot of these, and it's ego driven too, like, hey, 20
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million. Well, Mr. Anonymous gave 20
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million. I bet we can give 22 million.
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Let's do that. It's like there's some of that.
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I'd assume that's a rich person thing.
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I don't know, like I guess, but I mean, it's a write off how
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they can do it. But no, I, I, I'm not shocked by
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the money because I mean, Franklin does move the needle on
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that. If we'd hired Chesney, we
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wouldn't be get, I don't know if we'd be getting a $20 million
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donation. Maybe we would, I don't know.
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So what do you think, Ally? Is that something?
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That's something you said two months ago about Franklin, Yeah.
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Yeah, no, you got to be able to sell something.
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They walk into a place and get money, like Phil said.
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But it also has to be some results as well.
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Like just exactly what he was saying.
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Like you can throw money at it and people's going to be you.
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You can sell somebody a car until that car don't work, you
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know what I'm saying? Like you can look good until
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that motherfucker don't crank, you know, and and and and don't
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get, you know, you can't get to from point A to point B and you
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can't put it in car shows. So why am I going to keep
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throwing money at something that that that doesn't work?
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So I thought Franklin or Shane Beamer would be the two that
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could get the most money out of the boosters because they would
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move the needle, needle in in the booster room.
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So now he's doing what he's supposed to do with what I
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thought he would do in recruiting.
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But it has to translate to the field.
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So that's what we got to like Phil said, it's, you know, we've
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been hurt so much. It's a wait and see thing, you
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know, yeah, it's great to get kids and bring kids back.
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But everybody was excited about Pop Watson being a a hokey and
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then he never played, so I can't say I don't get to cry to.
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He he's he's got as many wins against UVA as drones does.
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Yeah, that's true. It's like.
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Very true. But I, yeah, I agree.
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No, I don't. I don't know how we're going to.
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Yeah, we, I don't know. But you, you, you got to win.
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It doesn't like that's the whole thing.
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It doesn't matter who the coach is.
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Like next year's tough, it's hard to win.
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Next year's going to be hard to win, hard to win.
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It's going to be is that 20 million coming in five and
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seven? If the roster stood as it is
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right now, I would say, yeah, it's going to be tough as shit
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to win. But really over the next month
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is where you're going to find out is people get moved out and
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people get moved in. Because the one thing that
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caught my ear during the press conference with Franklin months
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ago, and he said it, he's probably going to use the portal
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more than he ever has this first year.
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And what that tells me is after tomorrow, 12 O clock game
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tomorrow, that game's going to end about 3 or 330.
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Be ready for them. It's supposed to.
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By the way, if y'all didn't hear, basically all the Penn
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State offensive line is decommitted from playing in the
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bowl game tomorrow. Yeah.
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And they put is that game tomorrow?
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I didn't know. Tomorrow, Tomorrow.
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When he. Said.
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I knew the 12. That's sort of the thing, huh?
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Oh. Yeah, we can get into that.
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Oh, I, oh, we can get into that because it, it sucks.
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Like growing up with it, like we all did.
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We're all roughly the same age growing up.
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Bowl games are awesome man. You see a team on national TV,
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you know as you get older you have some drinks at the bar
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watching them. Or in in the case of Phil in
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1999, travelling to the Sugar Bowl.
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Lucky bastard. We did do that on the train from
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Charleston. That was really long.
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Wait a minute. You took a train from Charleston
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all the way to New Orleans. We did.
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We did. Devonte, let's go there.
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We. Go.
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Let's go. Mr. Lester.
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Mr. Lester. Mr. Lester.
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How the heck are we drinking a little shine?
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No, this is a running joke that y'all don't know about that when
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me and Tally call each other, we have a different middle name
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every time we call each other. So someday it'd be Aloysius.
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Aloysius. Aloysius is my favorite now.
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I knew about Aloysius because Tally dropped that in the group
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chat from time to. Time.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Another time it could be.
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Cavazier he could be. Whatever you want.
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You know, but we are since we celebrating the it's the state
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of the program, right? All.
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Right, so we're going to go a shot of shine, a shot of two XO
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and a little bit of simple lemonade.
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There we go, gentlemen. How?
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How the holidays, man. Oh man, beautiful man.
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Got my whole family here except for my daughter who's over in
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over in Korea. Wife's doing great, kids doing
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great. Have my have my JMU kid here
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with me. He talking trash you know.
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So it's all love man. It just came from the gun range.
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Well, I'm telling you. That.
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Sounds like Christy. That sounds like my kind of
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Christmas moonshine and gun ranges, Curtis.
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Was just asking us kind of how we felt about everything, you
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know, money coming in, state of the program, things like that.
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From a parent perspective as well as a fan perspective, how
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you what are you thinking about? Because feel brought up a good
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point. He's like next year is going to
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be is going to be tough. We got a lot of games that we
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got to travel to. So James Franklin is going to
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get introduced to a rough schedule.
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The money coming in is helping. You know, the recruiting is
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helping. But as far as where the program
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is, how you feeling about it? Well.
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As a parent, I'm excited because I came here to win.
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You know, so this being this would be my third year in the
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program. My kids had a, you know, y'all
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know, red shirt year and then had a medical year this year.
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So I'm I'm just about winning and I think that's huge for for
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him and I think that's huge for the program.
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There's no other fan base in the country that deserves the winner
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more than Virginia Tech. You know, we're loyal, we're
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faithful. We going to pack it out.
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So I'm excited about that. As a parent, I realized that
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every year it's a one year, it's a one year contract.
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Every year they sign it and you know, they get another year to
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have the ability to play football and finish education.
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So I think this is the best year for any kid in our program
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because you're going to have the eyes of the entire nation on
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you. You know, last year when Bill
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Belichick went down ACC, everybody was crazy about UNC.
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Everybody wanted to see him. Everybody wanted to talk to him.
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Well, we get our version of that just on a bigger level because
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he's won on the college level. Bill had the, you know,
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nostalgia and the, and the prestige and everything that
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came along with him went in NFL, but he didn't do anything in
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college. James Franklin was no matter how
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much as we follow on next, you know, the Penn State crybabies
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over there talking about oh, he sucked.
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He was just that in the third. You know, we we tired of going
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six and six. We would love to have multiple
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10 year season, 10 year win seasons.
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We you know what I'm saying that we burn the whole damn city down
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if we had ten win seasons again, you know what I'm saying?
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So all this oh ho, you know, he's he doesn't win the big
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games. A lot of people lose the big
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games. Amen.
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Truth be told, you know y'all can flog me later, Frank.
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A lot of games we talk about Danny Cole caught it right and
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all the other stuff. We we lost some damn games.
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You know I I just had my taste over with Miami a couple years
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back. So you're going to have the
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entire country's eyes on you. Everybody's been humbled and,
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and everybody, you know what I'm saying, from Big Bang James to
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Brett Pryor, who I loved and I'm glad he's back to the guys, to
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the guys who got fired and found jobs elsewhere.
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Big shout out to a man, Elijah Brooks, finding a job down at
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USF. Shout out tomorrow.
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Yeah, shout out tomorrow. Going out to Colorado.
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Everybody's been humble, man. And so I think these kids are
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going to finally get some of the things they've always wanted.
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Being coached extremely hard, tough being able to have to go
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up against guys that are at their level because we've been
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sprinkling these kind of guys, very few sprinkles, but we've
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been sprinkling these kind of guys that you just got in this
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20 in this 26 class. We've been sprinkling them in.
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They're going to be able to bring in that, that real top
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tier 3 star, top Tier 4 star. Damn, there some five stars
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because in my opinion, we got a couple five stars on this roster
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that, you know, 247 kind of missed out on Jeffrey Overson.
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But you know, so I'm excited, man.
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I'm excited, looking forward to just like you guys are.
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Hey, man, you know that kid, you know you know that guy, But you
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know, you know, I'm just ready to get it started, man.
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I'm ready to start lying. I'm ready for the portal.
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You know, I'm I'm I'm ready to start lying, bro.
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You know, as as as you have me on tape saying that we would be
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11 and one. I'm I'm always lying.
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I'm never thinking we going to lose until we until it happens.
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But I think the talent level is about to be ratcheted up.
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Then it's just going to be to the point of the intensity and
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them understanding that they are they are trying to be the the
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new big deal. They're trying to be you don't
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make the most noise in the ACC. This year.
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We're trying to get back to where we are, the team in the
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ACC to talk about right up there with Miami, right up there with
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Clemson, right up there with any of those teams in the ACC.
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And when we talk about that like.
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I think the, the biggest thing is that James Franklin has
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raised the profile of the program right out the gate,
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whether we're talking about national media and all this and
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we, we've said it for multiple years, like the national media
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wants us to be fucking good. They like it when we are good.
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It's good for their business because they they like to be
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able to promote a not even an underdog, but a team that's like
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flirting with greatness amongst these other blue blood programs.
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They love to have that storyline and they know that this program
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is capable of doing it. We've shown that we can do it
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before. We just have to have the right
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person at the top of that team to get us right.
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And I feel like James Franklin is doing a good job so far.
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Obviously the proof is in the pudding until we see some games
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we just lying, we talking and all that stuff, but at the same
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time we're seeing some facts coming along with them.
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Lies. Yeah, not just not just the
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right person at the top, the right people at the top.
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What Phil was talking about earlier when he's talking about
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Jay Pearson, like why we just now hearing from him?
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People like that have been wanting to be involved in the
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program and get out here and make a difference.
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But it's hard to do that when you don't have a script to
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follow, you know what I'm saying, when you don't.
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And no disrespect to Brett Pryor, he just didn't know.
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He didn't have the he didn't have the balls to go do some of
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the stuff. He didn't have the, you know
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what I'm saying? He didn't have the body of work
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to do it. James Franklin does.
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James Franklin got fired and was on game day the next the next
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week, you know what I'm saying? So and people was making fun of
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us saying, oh, Virginia Tech thought he was going to come out
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and say he was, he was going to Virginia Tech the next week.
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He ain't going there. Like everybody in the media was
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making fun of it like it was a joke, like we couldn't get him.
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We wasn't good enough. We didn't have enough money and
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then he's there. So I'm going to throw another
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question. I got to throw this to Robbie
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because you know, we do got AD line coach on the on the program
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right now. With the with.
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The D line coach being hired playoff coach, we know his
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pedigree. What do you think about this
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high with Coach Chaos? I honestly, I think it's going
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to be a good thing. I I've always been AJC Price fan
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and just going to different directions, going to add a whole
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new dimension. So they've gotten so much out of
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coach Price in the last few years.
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And I mean, I don't know the whole situation of of how things
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are going to play out with that. But I mean, he's going to add an
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expertise of guys that he's already put in the league, top
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rush players and things like that he's produced over the last
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several years. I mean, it's just going to, it's
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going to draw people in there because those kids are going to
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play for a coach like that that has shown those has proven those
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things to put those kids in places like that.
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So I mean, that's just going to it's going to up the profile of
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that whole defensive line, which I wasn't sure it could happen
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tremendously from where Coach Price was building to anyway.
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But if you can manage to keep Coach Price in the program in
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some way, shape or form and then add Coach Chaos there to it, I
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mean, it's going to be one of the strongest points on the
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defense and. And with him, it's the proofs in
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the pudding. Somebody on Twitter the other
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week tried to say this guy was just terrible when we were here.
23:41
This is a Penn Statement, by the way.
23:44
They might be the saltiest ass fan base right now.
23:48
I mean, without it's not even close.
23:50
It's not even close out. Salty.
23:52
But but but but they're sitting here.
23:55
But they're sitting there, but they're sitting there trying to
23:58
say he wasn't that good of a coach when he was here.
24:01
He's really not good at A&M. It's like A&M is like second in
24:04
the country in sacks and I go, I get bored.
24:07
They're they're first, Phil, they're first in sacks.
24:10
You're on mute, Phil. You're on mute.
24:13
I thought that's what I saw. He said some bitch, he bowed
24:19
some bitch in case y'all didn't pick that up.
24:22
Either way, that's. A penalty.
24:25
They are elite. Elite.
24:27
They are way higher than Virginia Tech was this year.
24:29
Yes. In way higher last year.
24:31
We were good last year. Let's talk about this though.
24:33
So like the big, the big thing that I'm looking at with chaos
24:36
is that if you look at his the body of work from the output of
24:41
his units on top of what he is able to recruit.
24:45
I don't know if it's that, if there's a better combination
24:48
defensive line coach in the country of being able to recruit
24:51
at that high level plus get output on the field, he gets it
24:55
out. Absolutely.
24:56
He gets it out of them. That's the whole piece.
24:58
He he's got who up the talent level that he has in that room.
25:01
He will. Extract every.
25:03
Every single Oz And you see that because worse he's ever had is
25:08
like 30th. His first season at at Penn
25:12
State they were 30th. That wasn't 14 coming off all
25:15
the shit. They were 30th.
25:17
Right. And then they were, they hit it
25:19
while he was there for what, five years, Six years they were
25:22
like they leaded country twice. They were top 10.
25:24
Two other times they were been elite down at A&M.
25:28
So if you bring in talent, he's going to get it out of them.
25:31
He's going to get them drafted. I mean, it's the selling point,
25:33
right? I mean, Robbie, you had a
25:34
four-star defensive lineman. You played four years.
25:37
Ago. And it's like.
25:39
I mean, if you, if you look back, if you look back at his
25:45
record too, and it's he's not just recruiting guys that do his
25:51
thing. He takes guys that do things
25:55
well and he teaches them how to enhance that.
25:58
It's not just a specific guy that he brings off the edge and
26:02
does one thing like he develops them wholly, whether it's an
26:07
outside edge rush, whether it's an inside defensive player,
26:10
whether it's pass rush, whether it's a run game.
26:14
He develops all of that from top to bottom.
26:16
That's why these kids are going to play on Sundays afterwards.
26:20
It's not just something that he's putting on the field to
26:23
look good on a Saturday afternoon and and pay his bills.
26:27
I mean, he's, he's making these kids men on Sundays that are
26:33
better in their lives all the way through.
26:35
And I mean, that's, that's hard to beat.
26:39
He's a badass recruiter. I mean, he's definitely building
26:42
recruiters. I mean, that's what like all all
26:44
these guys are like recruiting and hitting certain targets and
26:48
areas. And it seems like it's like Aceo
26:51
making strategic decisions around here, making on what we
26:53
got to do. And hey, this has got to get
26:56
fixed. But man, this is a mess.
26:57
Well, This is why we're going to do it.
26:58
It's like, OK, let's do it. I think the biggest thing that
27:01
he did is what he's saying by expanding your base.
27:04
We as Virginia Tech, we've looked for the most part in just
27:07
protecting Virginia. We may get a few kids out of the
27:10
DMV, you know, maybe a few kids here, he said.
27:14
We're going to be a national brand.
27:15
So by getting by getting Spencer, he can still go
27:18
touchdown those kids in Texas, getting the running back coach.
27:23
He can get Georgia and Florida. You already got your DMV in
27:26
Virginia. You've got with Coach Moore,
27:29
who's great at going in Ohio, West Virginia in those areas.
27:32
And if you can go ahead and and just be able to pull from all
27:35
those different areas, you're going to build a collective of
27:37
kids that you're going to bring in here that are going to be top
27:40
notch and be able to be iron sharpens iron on a regular
27:43
basis. That defensive line room is
27:45
going to be crazy. I mean, as you saw this year, we
27:48
had guys with the will to do it. We just didn't have the guys at
27:54
total. You didn't have a bona fide pass
27:56
for sure, as you had years before with APR.
27:58
Ben Bell played his ass off. He played as hard as he possibly
28:01
could, but there's only. Sometimes.
28:03
Too hard. Yeah.
28:04
Sometimes. Too hard, yeah.
28:06
But but you want him to go as hard as he can, man.
28:08
And that's what he did. So you turn around now you're
28:12
going to be able to get different kids that they touched
28:14
in Texas or touched it, A&M kids at Penn State, they want to come
28:18
down and play. And so now you're going, you're
28:19
going to be dominant. And as much as we may want to
28:22
bang on Coach Pry, you know, the one thing he can do, he can
28:26
coordinate the defense, man, he when he coordinates the defense,
28:29
they are, they are elite. And so you get his get his
28:34
homeboy back with the D line. God willing, we may be getting,
28:37
you know, a secondary coach here in the next couple weeks or so.
28:41
But the talented kids that we have now are guys that we
28:44
haven't had before. We haven't had like that before.
28:47
You've got guys that you could turn around and cut loose.
28:50
You've got a JoJo Crim that's going to be able to come back.
28:53
You got you got Josh Clark. I always call him Jay Cinco
28:58
because that's family for me. So Jay Cinco will be back.
29:01
You have Q Reddish, you have Jordan, you'll have Jordan Bass,
29:04
who'll have another year in the program playing safety.
29:07
Remember, he was a Pittsburgh playing linebacker.
29:09
This was his first year playing, you know, over the boundary
29:12
safety. So it's going to be a new year
29:13
for him secondary. It's going to be much improved.
29:17
Go go and get a couple more running mates for for Coldplay,
29:21
because as as good as he was, we could move him around.
29:25
He needed somebody else to help him get it done on another one.
29:29
Yeah, it's got to be 1 of Gillum was in there doing his thing.
29:31
But you got to have some guy, other guys that come in and do
29:33
their thing. So I'm excited about that.
29:36
Let's let's talk about the prop thing.
29:38
Go ahead Robbie, finish it off if.
29:42
He I was going to say, if he, if you get an interior defensive
29:45
lineman like Copeland was putting that last year, when you
29:49
put him on the field, people go, OK, we're doubling that guy.
29:52
We'll figure out if somebody can.
29:54
One man. The other one.
29:56
Now when you can put two of them out there or rotate a group of
29:59
them out there, you it's hard to figure out who you're going to
30:02
double who you're going to take away because the other one's
30:04
going to hurt you one-on-one. Absolutely.
30:07
After, after that Cal game, the whole world knew.
30:09
We all knew he was good. There was, you know, echoes of
30:13
him being that. But after that Cal game, Whole
30:16
World said OK, we're going to double him.
30:18
Who else? The year.
30:19
Can win one-on-one and. That was the proof.
30:23
That was the proof the game he had, he had shown flashes
30:26
leading up to the middle of the season in the Cal game and a
30:29
give credit to JC of how he used them because it was three tech,
30:33
5 tech and one of those he was his big 290 LB butt was out at
30:37
the nine tech coming down, which I I always wonder what an
30:42
offensive lineman thinks of that because normally it's like
30:44
A265275 guy and it's a 290 LB guy with a quick step that's
30:49
going to go. Right in your chest.
30:51
Yeah, and right in your chest. Strongest.
30:52
Strongest. I don't.
30:53
Know what? And Yep, and that's the thing.
30:55
Because. Like we, we, we saw the flashes,
30:58
right? So like we saw that, you know,
31:00
he had this big play ability as an interior defensive lineman.
31:04
What we hadn't seen up until the start of this year was how how
31:09
he looked consistently over the course of an entire season.
31:12
We had seen the flashes and we saw as he settled into that
31:15
position, he started dominating the line of scrimmage and he was
31:19
dominating the line of scrimmage that like Robbie alluded to and
31:22
like some of y'all alluded to that didn't really have another
31:24
guy out there that was a target. So it's it's easy to take away a
31:30
guy to a point on the interior because the double teams are a
31:35
little bit easier to handle. When you can move him around in
31:37
different positions and get get guys on islands where you either
31:42
got to commit a running back to chip on him or something like
31:44
that. It gets a whole lot harder to
31:46
take that type of player away. You give him a running mate and
31:49
you can still move him around in different spots and you know,
31:52
shift before the snap and things like that.
31:55
You can get really dangerous with what with what you can do
31:58
at the at the defensive line. You probably could have been
32:00
even more dominant last year. If he doesn't tear his pack.
32:03
If he doesn't tear his pack with him, Aeneas.
32:07
Might be, yeah, yeah, you're right.
32:09
But it but it might be one of those, but it might be.
32:12
For like. Chaos coming in and Franklin
32:15
coming in. It might be the blessing in
32:17
disguise because I think as good as he is, I don't think he's
32:22
there. He's not going to get on draft
32:24
boards above like 5 or 6. He's just not.
32:26
They're going to probably say go back one more season, finish
32:30
your time off, which benefits us.
32:33
It probably benefits him because of like what Robbie mentioned a
32:36
little while ago with, with with Coach Chaos and how he can adapt
32:39
a guy like that. So that's the big piece.
32:42
But I want to kick back because we talked about Brett Pryde.
32:44
It's got to be discussed. And yes, we have discussed it,
32:48
but again, we're at a bar, we're having drinks.
32:52
Join us if you'd like. Hey, there's some seats at the
32:54
bar, so if y'all hit the QR code, there's a link in the
32:56
chat. Y'all want to join us at this
32:58
bar? Talk a little shit, feel free to
33:01
do that. Hey, I want to add 2.
33:03
You got plenty of room here I. Want to?
33:05
Do that like have we and, and tell me I've had a few beers.
33:09
Have we had a time where we've had a dominant or at least above
33:13
average defensive tackle and an above average defensive end at
33:18
the same time? Yeah, we had like in Powell,
33:23
like in our who else? Who am I?
33:25
Who am I got? A newest people.
33:28
We just didn't have nothing around.
33:30
We didn't. Have any linebackers right like?
33:34
Check this out, check this out, check this out.
33:36
When you go look at the numbers from last year, this year we
33:40
had, I think we had 19 sacks or 17 sacks.
33:44
You see the 1719, I have to go look, that was the whole year.
33:48
Last year, APR had 16 sacks by itself.
33:54
Like half of them are in like 3 games or two games.
33:56
Yeah, so, so The thing is, and, and I've been waiting to throw
34:01
this out too, because so many fans jump on this now.
34:03
I'm always about good coaching, but I'm also about I want a
34:09
coach that can recruit. Every coach has to be able to
34:11
recruit because I've got to look at Miami.
34:15
They're the best in the ACC, right?
34:17
Can we say that? Right.
34:18
How do you win? The fight.
34:23
Where's new king? Where's new king?
34:25
Get new king in the phone chat. Hear Tally say that.
34:29
Yeah, so Jay, so Jason Taylor is their defensive line coach.
34:35
You know he was coaching before Miami.
34:38
In high school, Indiana, he was in high.
34:40
School, you know what I'm saying?
34:41
But what it but what it But what did he do before that?
34:44
Of course we everybody knows he was a great NFL player.
34:48
It doesn't matter how great you can coach if you got good
34:51
players. I think last year everybody on
34:53
his defensive line was a all American or all ACC player
35:00
across the line. You can't double nobody this
35:02
year. You go look at them and you get
35:04
deep in the games. People don't understand how big
35:07
of a deal it was for Jeffrey Overton to score a touchdown
35:10
against Miami. Oh yeah.
35:14
Their defensive line is one of the best defensive lines that
35:17
you ever going to see. Like Ruben Bain is a monster.
35:19
What's the dude? Mr. Door is a monster.
35:21
The other. Everybody on the their lines
35:24
are. Always next, dude.
35:27
They had Tyler Tyler Baron last year.
35:29
So this is the thing that's that's a NFL line that they
35:33
have. It doesn't matter how good of a
35:37
coach you are, how bad of a coach you are.
35:39
If you line those dudes up, they're going to go eat.
35:42
Now, if you do have a coach that can go, if you do have a coach
35:45
that can go and get more out of them and they can coach them up,
35:49
You know what I'm saying? Because JC has been working
35:51
with, I say bubble gum and and bow and arrows.
35:54
You know what I'm? Saying come on man, come.
35:56
On Yeah, we got to get kids. From, you know, whatever and and
36:01
no shit, no disrespect to them, but like some of these kids
36:04
ain't NFL guys, but JDC got a lot out of them.
36:08
If you can get a coach and you got the money to go and pay a
36:11
kid and get them into the program and say, hey man, we
36:15
just want to be a stepping stone to get you to the NFL because
36:18
you know that's where he going. Like Tyler Baron was like Ruben
36:21
Bane was like Mesador. We got to get those players.
36:25
Once we get those players, like you can get the coaches, but you
36:30
got to get the players. This has got to be, it's got to
36:33
be a training ground is what you got to say.
36:37
This is where it's got to be. And it's like, so I've got a 2
36:39
sided question of that. And so like one, do you think it
36:43
was an advantage for Jason Taylor coming from a high school
36:46
setting, having to I'm not saying high school kids are
36:49
dumb, but they're dumb. Have them to dumb down sometimes
36:53
on defense to simplify stuff to be like, hey, like in ChatGPT,
36:57
explain it to me like I'm an eighth grader.
36:58
Like do you think that helps coaching Miami's ultra talented
37:03
dude, 1 and 2. Is it harder to get like a five
37:08
star that's always dominated people to like take that
37:11
coaching then versus A4, the large three star.
37:15
So tell me, tell me I'm like Robbie I.
37:17
Didn't want you to finish? Go Rob.
37:19
Yeah, go, Rob. Yeah, I was going to say, Robin,
37:21
let me say something. Let me say something.
37:24
Then you can finish it up. When I when I say I'm going to
37:26
say a dog wants to run with a dog, it don't matter where you
37:30
being. It don't matter how how you
37:33
being. Like when somebody looks at
37:35
Jason Taylor, first of all, that's a big motherfucker.
37:37
Like that's an NFL player. Him standing up with you and
37:42
talking to you, you're probably going to give him a little
37:44
reference. But from him knowing what he's
37:46
doing, like you got to have some kind of background to show me
37:50
that you know what you're doing. So when he's talking to those
37:53
guys, yeah, they want to go play for him.
37:55
But also it's money. It don't matter.
37:58
But it's not just him. Miami has been able to go out
38:01
and get the best players because they were willing to spend
38:04
money. Go look at Cam Ward.
38:06
It didn't matter where Cam Ward went.
38:08
He probably was going to elevate the team that he played on.
38:11
Who is The Who is the officer coordinator at Miami?
38:13
Do anybody know without Scan Dawson?
38:15
I do It don't fucking matter. It don't matter but.
38:19
It don't. Matter.
38:20
It don't matter Carson and people talk shit about Carson
38:24
Bent. Carson Bent is a national
38:26
championship quarterback. Like you had Campbell then and
38:29
Carson Bent, right? Come on, man.
38:32
Robbie, let's go back to what the question he asked about you
38:35
as a line coach. Go ahead.
38:37
Yeah, it's it's one thing there with defensive line coaches too.
38:42
But like I've been in coaching for 20 plus years now.
38:48
I've been to these coaches clinics, I'm going to 1 here in
38:51
a couple weeks and Charlotte, the big AFCA convention, you
38:56
will see guys that have gotten into coaching because of who
38:58
they know and they'll bounce from team to team and team to
39:01
team because of who they know. And they can't teach their way
39:05
out of a wet paper bag with a flashlight in the pocket knife,
39:08
right? But when you can take a guy like
39:11
Jason Taylor, who's from from a high school who can take if he
39:16
couldn't recruit is that he was handed, it might not be.
39:20
They can make players out of them when you get to that next
39:23
level when they have that ability, or you can teach them
39:26
the little things to use that ability.
39:29
I've been tricking people for years thinking I was a good
39:31
coach because I've had spectacular athletes.
39:36
Live. Now you're live, just being
39:38
recorded. Cut.
39:42
Back, but I'm a bounce on what he says.
39:46
I think if you turn around, it's hard for a lot of elite players
39:51
like you. We've always seen like let's
39:53
just say basketball. Magic Johnson could never turn
39:56
around and be a really good coach, right?
39:58
You always saw that like Michael Jordan said, I could never coach
40:01
right because they just said things extremely well.
40:04
Jason Taylor walks into the room, right?
40:07
Like Charlie said, he's a huge dude, but he walks in there with
40:10
the pedigree of what he did in in the college, what he did in
40:13
the pros. To turn around and be a Hall of
40:15
Famer and then he just gets excellent talent, you know,
40:19
extremely talented players. And he's just teaching him what
40:21
what he knows. And then everything else he's
40:24
learned from all the different places he's gone.
40:26
Those kids are going to be like, hey, that's Jason Taylor.
40:29
You know, we can release YouTube and seeing what he's done.
40:32
But the thing that Crystal Ball has done, he made it his number
40:35
one point to make sure the trenches were stacked and
40:38
loaded. He knew he could he could go get
40:41
skill. This is one thing I realized.
40:43
There are a ton of skill players because it's pretty.
40:46
Everybody want to be outside, everybody want to had a ball,
40:49
everybody want to Juke somebody in space.
40:51
But the guys on the inside, that's where the money's made.
40:54
That's where the magic happens. And that's what we've been
40:57
missing here for the last three years up until Matt Moore walks
41:03
into the building and then you turn around and get this hall
41:06
that you get with James Franklin understanding building the
41:09
trenches is the deal. This isn't going to be a a much
41:13
better football team. I know we we we still haven't
41:16
talked touched on Brent pride. Let's talk about.
41:19
Don't worry about it, but. We got that on the, on the, on
41:21
the. Menu I don't we can talk about
41:24
Brent. Like Brent pride conversation
41:26
will last from now until the end of his career.
41:29
Like it won't last forever. And I saw the note out there.
41:32
Shout out to Kellen Gillum. Kellen Gillum Junior without
41:35
question because he was like the backbone of this thing.
41:38
That dude walked in as a man, as a general, saw how things were
41:42
going, would not let the ship go totally off off.
41:46
You know, he would not let it be mutiny in that thing and let
41:49
that thing go off the rails. So mad shout out to him.
41:52
He will forever be a great hokey no matter what the record says.
41:56
He will forever be able to walk in.
41:58
We don't walk in the Lane Stadium and get much love for
42:01
everything that he did. I love that kid.
42:03
Great, great dude, great let that guy but.
42:07
I feel like he started the comeback to Virginia thing.
42:10
Like it's OK to portal back and get used and people will
42:13
appreciate you. Oh yeah, come back.
42:15
Come back. I want you back.
42:17
It's like, oh, you're going this place, but we'll see you in two
42:20
years. Like, see.
42:21
Yeah. I think, I think he went out,
42:24
saw what it was, but he knew he could be great at home.
42:27
That was that was a big thing for us about being great at
42:30
home. And I think he saw that as well.
42:31
And he's been a great ambassador for the program and and for
42:35
everything good Virginia kid love that kid.
42:38
But going back to what say having continuity in the in the
42:40
office of line room haven't Matt Moore come back?
42:44
It would have been great. I think it's what this Dale, the
42:48
guy who went down, it was Penn State online coach that went
42:51
down to Florida. Yeah, it'd been great to get him
42:56
because the guy has repeatedly put guys in the pros.
42:59
And I'm talking about not just in the pros, I'm talking about
43:02
top 15, top 30 guys in the pros. But to have continuity in their
43:07
room with Matt Moore and his teaching and his philosophy, I
43:12
think that's going to be an extreme boost to those guys you
43:15
right now have going into the season.
43:18
I think you had maybe 7 guys who could play 7.
43:22
Like 9 played though. Say what am I right?
43:26
I said like 9 played though. That was the issue. 7 guys could
43:30
play, but nine played. You had to have 9, but we only
43:33
have seven. Hey, Chris, let me say.
43:35
Something real quick. About.
43:36
We'll say something real quick about Matt Moore and I'm.
43:38
Of the guys retained, there were two.
43:41
Some other guys would be entertained elsewhere.
43:43
But for the way he coaches, you knew what we were going to be
43:49
every single week, right? They're going to run the ball.
43:52
They're going to run the shit out of the ball.
43:54
That's what they're going to do. Because that's all they really
43:55
can do, right? To be to know that's coming and
44:00
to still have a guy that put a team top rushing.
44:03
I think I want to say 30, I'll, I'll pull it up here.
44:06
I've got it saved. But to basically have a top
44:10
thirty Russian offense when you know it's coming and it's not
44:14
triple option and it's not trickery.
44:16
It's like we're going to run the ball at you.
44:19
And especially when you got some younger guys playing and then
44:23
you have to bring 2 guys in that probably should not have been
44:26
playing. But things happen and things
44:28
people got to play. It's why you need depth.
44:31
But to say you could run the ball like that and basically
44:34
people knew, well, Angle really didn't pass the ball that much,
44:38
we stopped the run will be OK, Still be able to establish the
44:40
run and have that sort of output, It shows you how good of
44:45
a coach he is. And everybody's like, well, the
44:48
pass blocking stuff. Listen, Brian and Robbie both
44:52
played online. It ain't like turning the cap on
44:56
all you can just go out there and pass block any day of the
44:58
week the hell you can. I mean you, I mean you.
45:03
I mean, here's the problem. I think they had 10.
45:06
I think of the what, 13 of the 12 games they played.
45:09
I think they had 10 different, 10 different line UPS.
45:11
I think that's the number of something, right?
45:13
Right around that, that's. Pretty cool.
45:16
What's the problem with that? Whatever.
45:18
I mean. That's just how you drew it up,
45:21
Chris. Science.
45:24
Believer that to me, this is me. OK?
45:29
I felt like those guys gave extreme.
45:31
They gave everything they had this year.
45:34
They gave every bit of every everything they had.
45:37
Miami game alone, the Miami game alone and how much we ran on the
45:41
on them. Like, like Callie said, like we
45:43
crushed Miami on that game, running the ball if we could
45:46
throw the damn ball. Listen, Aiden Lynch will be able
45:49
to go down one day and tell his grandkids, Hey, I, I blocked
45:52
against Ruben Bane. You know what I'm saying, man?
45:54
And, and you know, he whipped my ass, but I held my own as much
45:57
as I could. You know, I, I just think that
46:00
you turn around, you take those kids from being thrown into the
46:03
fire the way they were. Some of the kids that we're
46:05
definitely probably going to bring in the portal and those
46:08
eight guys that we got cooking in the background, that's going
46:11
to be there. You're going to have what you
46:12
didn't have last year. There were times that they
46:15
couldn't practice, they couldn't have full live practices because
46:19
they didn't have no bodies, man. That that's we are now
46:23
officially, I've always felt we've been a, you know, a
46:25
powerful program, but we're really official powerful
46:28
program, man. Trying to do some big things,
46:30
man. So I'm, I'm excited about what
46:32
Matt Moore and them are going to bring this year in the offensive
46:36
line room. I think those guys are going to
46:37
be better forward. They're going to be better
46:39
tested. 194 against Miami over 5A carry against that D line.
46:45
But like, if you look at Miami's, the, the, the rushing
46:48
yards, they've given up all year, nobody's done anything
46:49
like that. Nobody knew anything close to
46:51
it. Nobody.
46:52
Not even close. I mean, hey, I just wasn't
46:54
Hannibal the damn Hannibal in the house.
46:58
What's up, baby? There you go.
46:59
There you go. The crib is the crib.
47:02
The crib is the crib. The crib is the.
47:05
Crib. How we living, we good man, we
47:09
over here, we drinking. If I had the deck set outside,
47:12
we'd be smoking. But.
47:12
You know you got that that that Sure.
47:15
MV7 Plus plugged in Dan. Nah, man, it's going to take
47:20
some set up. Dan Santa Claus is good to Dan
47:26
on the podcasting front. It'd have been 1045 before I got
47:30
on here if I got home and tried to set that thing up.
47:35
What's up brother, What you been doing tonight?
47:38
Man, there's many streets, man, Just out here outside doing my
47:42
thing, chilling. Hey now you, you having some
47:47
drinks with us? What you?
47:48
What you drinking on? I'm drinking some water.
47:51
I'm. Drinking water, staying
47:52
hydrated. What the hell?
47:55
That's smart. Hey, what the fuck is this?
47:57
What did you address? Something right quick.
48:01
Yeah, dress something right quick.
48:02
What are we addressing? Oh God.
48:04
Steve, Steve, Stephen Colbert or whoever, 296 What?
48:09
His comment up. Yeah, I like that one.
48:12
The one before that. The one before that.
48:14
Yeah, yeah, fuck that guy. What happened?
48:21
I hope that he goes and coaches at the worst.
48:24
Middle school and his team never wins the game.
48:35
Coach Montgomery coach like a different now again.
48:38
I bet it was tough, you know what I'm saying?
48:41
You have people leaving, you have people leaving the team,
48:45
you know, getting in transfer portal, coach gets fired, but
48:48
you accept the role of being the interim coach.
48:51
Your job is to go and coach and you're supposed to be coaching
48:54
to get somewhere else for the energy that he put on the field
48:58
in the games that he won to the energy he put on the field in
49:01
that UVA game. He can go somewhere.
49:04
And I never got to see him coach again.
49:06
I mean, we didn't have no half back pass.
49:08
We didn't do nothing. You didn't you never pulled the
49:11
quarterback. Like what do you have to lose?
49:15
The team is better than you and you got beat 20 to 27 to 727.
49:20
Come on, man. We we didn't do nothing.
49:22
We didn't even try to win the game.
49:24
And it was more games than that. But definitely I just feel like
49:27
it this just could be me and my feelings.
49:29
When James Franklin got announced as the coach, I think
49:32
he got to his feelings. He wasn't considered for nothing
49:35
and he coached different. We didn't even, we didn't make
49:38
no changes. We didn't do nothing.
49:40
But the UVA game pissed me off more than anything.
49:43
I'm cool with you losing games. It's a losing season, whatever.
49:46
You know it is what it is. But that UVA game for you not to
49:49
change anything up, not to go to a different quarterback, not to
49:53
give me any different plays. Well, we couldn't do any place.
49:57
Yeah, you can. You could have fucking hiked the
50:00
ball over your head and did a annexation of Puerto Rico.
50:05
You was going to lose anyway. Do something fucking different.
50:08
I'm just saying. So no, we are not giving.
50:12
We are not giving. Shout outs to Cole Montgomery on
50:14
here pitch. To Johnny.
50:16
You can't pitch to Johnny, bro. If you, if you and.
50:23
You know what? I'm a stern believer, if you
50:26
accept the check, do the job. If you ain't going.
50:29
Because there was a check. Don't do the job.
50:31
Yeah, maybe he knew he wasn't auditioning anymore.
50:35
He knew he'd failed that audition and his won't be the
50:38
key grip. Exactly what it.
50:40
Was. Yeah, but the.
50:43
Thing is like with that game though, you're right, it's like,
50:46
what can you do? Well, go, OK, all you're going
50:48
to do is get to four wins, go screw their season up, do some
50:51
wild things, change quarterback so.
50:53
OK, quarterback. So that's what y'all was.
50:56
Doing above all else, y'all just wanted to try to screw your VA
50:59
season up. That's all you and just try to.
51:01
Make a difference, right? So just just be a headache, be a
51:04
pain in the ass. Don't don't just don't just go
51:07
out there and do the same thing you did the last three weeks and
51:09
call it a day. Go out there and try to ruin
51:12
their season. If you got it in your bag of
51:15
tricks, I need to see it on the field.
51:17
That's what that game should have been about.
51:19
There was no reason to leave anything in the bag.
51:22
There was absolutely no reason to leave anything in the bag in
51:25
that game because you didn't have nothing to play for except
51:28
to screw up what they had going. And we just went out there.
51:32
We did what we. Did I was 4 for 16?
51:37
I don't think we, I don't think we brought another quarterback
51:39
with us, right. We just had.
51:41
Him no, no, no. We, we had, we had, we had, we
51:44
had a couple of quarterbacks. There weren't.
51:46
Oh yeah, there there were. That that was.
51:50
Go ahead, Chris. I feel like you're about to say
51:52
something. I think I think this is so
51:53
awesome. Go ahead, Chris.
51:56
This is Tate, I have a vested interest in this.
51:59
Program. And and, and, and I got one on
52:05
tape that that I'm probably like, I had to eat crow about.
52:11
All I'm saying is this. We can all speculate from what
52:18
we saw that he may have gotten in his feelings, but you got to
52:22
think about it. There was some things that he
52:24
got dealt to him that he that he had no idea that he was going to
52:29
get dealt. So I'm always going to have love
52:33
for Monty because for me personally, this is just me
52:36
personally. He didn't have all the weapons
52:41
that he needed to make this thing go.
52:44
And there were things above him that he could not move to even
52:50
get people in place to be able to run to run his system, run
52:55
his system. So you got to look at it.
52:58
He turned right. He wasn't going to get get the
53:01
we love Karen. And we were just to the point of
53:04
he wasn't able. We were saying the online did
53:06
have his efficiency and pass protection.
53:08
And that's that's a different thing that you got to end up
53:10
having. If you can't pass protect, it's
53:12
hard for a guy to get the passing game off.
53:14
So. He adjusted his offense to the
53:17
best that he could do and I know Tally just wanted him to go out
53:20
there and do some damn little giant shit so we could try to
53:24
just be be a thorn in UVA sides, but it all worked out in the
53:27
end. It all worked out in the end.
53:31
UVAUVA got a big egg on it and get big stupid face plant for
53:38
for losing the Duke. Everybody get a chance to go
53:41
get. Everybody watched it.
53:42
Everybody. Watched it to the end.
53:46
We thought Duke was trying to give it away.
53:48
They didn't. And guess what?
53:50
Man, it all worked out. This cross we got James
53:54
Franklin, they all know we're about to have all the recruits
53:57
in Virginia back. So salute.
53:58
We're not going. We're not going to hate Monty
54:00
forever. AC just always delivered.
54:04
The only thing I will say is that, you know, like, don't.
54:06
Coach A Kick a tan High school. This is a guy he already killed
54:10
Monty. At this point, Monty had already
54:12
taken the six shots, right? He had already taken the six
54:14
shots. If I'm going out, I'm not going
54:18
out with any bullets left in my clip.
54:20
That's all I'm saying. I just don't think he cared not
54:22
I don't think he cared about the the rivalry.
54:25
Like I don't think he gave a shot.
54:26
I don't think he. Did not get it some of the
54:28
playoffs. The rivalry and that Miami game
54:31
the week before was like that was we were all in on that, like
54:34
everybody. We were all in, all in.
54:37
And then UVA, there's a let down and they and UPA is good this
54:41
year. Better than us, not going better
54:43
than us. That sucks to say, but they're
54:44
better than us. Fuck, but Mike London won their
54:48
coach. They didn't fuck it up.
54:52
If Mike. Had been the coach this year,
54:54
they would have. Screwed it up.
54:55
Tony Ellen looked real funny coming into that locker room.
54:57
He didn't even look like a national.
54:59
For him to hold the Commonwealth Cup.
55:01
We'll get that back that. You don't worry about he's like,
55:04
all right here. What am I supposed to do with my
55:07
hands? What do I do with my hands?
55:08
How do I hold? I don't know.
55:10
Don't worry, you ain't holding another trophy after that
55:13
player. No doubt, I guess.
55:14
I guess my thing, The thing is with Monty, like, yeah, he got a
55:18
hand dealt to him that he wasn't expecting.
55:20
But at the same time, like, you took the offensive coordinator
55:24
job as a former head coach at a school with a hot seat coach.
55:27
So you knew there was a chance you might be running this thing
55:32
at some point. Now, it happened sooner than he
55:34
probably thought. But by the time we got to the
55:36
UVA game, and I work in food and beverage, I have several staff
55:41
members under me. I am the boss, but I tell them
55:45
the number one rule in food services.
55:47
If you don't give a fuck, act like you give a fuck.
55:50
You can't let them know you don't care.
55:52
And that last game against UVA. It looked like.
55:54
Shit, I'm about to be out of here.
55:56
Like it. Just, you know what I'm saying?
55:58
Like you. Did can't cool it all three, 123
56:01
can't. Cool.
56:01
I mean they filled up 3/4 of that stadium.
56:04
Good for them. Ten win Team 3, Forceful 3.
56:09
Forceful. Look at the way the damn ACC
56:13
championship game. That's pitiful shit.
56:16
The ACC needs to learn from all these other conferences.
56:19
You feed your big horses. And now when I stay by that,
56:22
hey, they're about to win this game.
56:24
No, they're not holding on the offense.
56:26
They ain't winning this fucking game.
56:29
They not win this game. I feel like the ATC should go to
56:33
campus tights. We're associated.
56:34
Happened to us. Last year, I guess.
56:36
Yeah, we apparently we do not have plot armor, Curtis.
56:38
We do not have plot armor. Yeah, they at.
56:41
Least not yet. Well when you fuck up and lose
56:43
the Vanderbilt and Rutgers then you don't get the benefit of the
56:46
doubt. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.
56:48
We lost twice. Twice.
56:51
Don't. Forget Purdue, Vanderbilt was
56:53
solid. Man.
56:54
I wanted Pavia in there. Pavia.
56:56
No. No, that was 23.
56:57
Purdue was 23. I know we lost to them too.
57:00
Like that's hard. Purdue, Rutgers, Vanderbilt.
57:03
Like shit, throw in I. Don't know.
57:05
Yeah, you don't get plot armor when you're losing to Purdue and
57:08
Rutgers. I get that.
57:09
Let's talk about how the Purdue game was the fucking worst game
57:12
that I've ever been a part of. Well, who else was there?
57:16
Me, Curtis and Tally was there. Who else was there it?
57:18
Was. Because.
57:20
I. Remember I posted a picture of a
57:22
dude in rain boots and said what he thinks gonna be a monsoon or
57:24
something because it was sunny and said and then I had to
57:28
retract my. Statement they said you know
57:31
what? Delete that tweet and apologize.
57:36
Definitely was a hard time it was.
57:38
That that bro looked at The Weather Channel way before
57:41
anybody else in Blacksburg looked at The Weather Channel.
57:43
Because I I thought there was going to be some rain.
57:46
I didn't think it was going to be a damn monsoon come.
57:48
In. Hail standing in standing in
57:51
South ends on getting hail pelleted on us while we're
57:55
trying to wait this thing out. By the way though, I was
57:58
thinking. Of hey, hey, hey, but I can say
58:00
this, me, Brian and Tally, he has the best seats I've ever had
58:03
in a game. Oh yeah, we had some great seats
58:05
at the end of. That, yeah, y'all were down on.
58:07
The 40 like. Two yeah, we're down there with
58:11
Darlax, man. Yeah.
58:14
Well, if that thing that it got much worse though, I would have
58:16
put one of y'all in the game. I got I got 10 snaps left in me.
58:21
I. Was thinking I got three.
58:24
I was. Thinking about my two of my knee
58:26
feeling I ain't got nothing. I don't even know if.
58:32
Kylie's got the size, they're pulling out the stands.
58:35
Man, shit, I don't know if I got nothing left.
58:38
Yeah. When was the Mayo Bowl last
58:39
year? Was it a week from Like, it was
58:43
like it was. We're a week away from it,
58:44
right? It was.
58:45
Like the 30th. Yeah, the 30th.
58:48
So we're sitting. We're sitting in Charlotte,
58:51
Kyron drones is coming back last year.
58:54
We're we're we're looking forward to it at that point,
58:57
right? And little did we know, there's
59:00
a rumor that Bo Buila was trying to come to tech and we ended up
59:04
going with Karen, allegedly. This is the rumor that it's been
59:07
around. And now you think about it, if
59:09
that would have happened, if Karen would have left, we would
59:11
have went with Beau. We never would have got the
59:14
money and we wouldn't have James Franklin.
59:17
So I think it's crazy how. Shit, we we don't.
59:19
We don't know though. That's the whole.
59:21
Thing we don't know. What don't we know?
59:24
What? What we don't know if how we
59:26
would have went this season because I think in some of the
59:29
cases it was Brent Bride's mismanagement.
59:32
Well, let's talk about this now. I don't think as as bad as Kyron
59:37
was in this offense, it wasn't a good fit for him, right?
59:40
I don't think very many quarterbacks in the country
59:44
would have done OK with this offensive line, especially once
59:48
the injuries happen pretty early in the season.
59:51
I agree that's the problem. So you probably are still, you
59:55
might be one or two wins better, but you're probably, you're
59:58
probably not a bowl team with that offensive line, right?
1:00:05
Do we fire our coach in September and get the chance to
1:00:08
end up with James Franklin? And then probably not that that
1:00:11
that's that I I'm with you on that day and that probably you
1:00:14
probably are not firing your coach in September if and I hate
1:00:18
things. About Kyron Jones, because he's
1:00:19
a really good kid and it pisses me off that I got to critique
1:00:22
that man negatively because I love him and his family, but it
1:00:26
was not good. Dan, I stayed all the time on
1:00:28
this program. I wish Karen was an asshole
1:00:31
because it would have been really easy to to pull against
1:00:34
him and go after him. But we've talked to him a couple
1:00:36
times and Kevin, they are. They are.
1:00:39
He is a genuinely good kid. He's not an asshole, he's not a
1:00:42
jerk. He's a genuinely good kid.
1:00:45
His family are genuinely good people.
1:00:48
That's what sucks is because you got to go critique and you got
1:00:52
to be again. Same thing with pride.
1:00:55
Same thing with pride. Oh no, no, it's true.
1:01:01
It's the same thing with pride. Hold.
1:01:04
On it's the same thing with pride.
1:01:06
We've said it like Tally time again.
1:01:08
It's like, that man's nice as hell.
1:01:10
That man's great. If you lead with a, he's such a
1:01:13
nice guy, is the first thing you say.
1:01:15
That's not necessarily the best thing that I want to.
1:01:18
Ask one of y'all look like Gregory Hines on the air, tap
1:01:21
dancing around it because and that's and that's what we've all
1:01:25
done, because there is no greater Brent Prop fan than me.
1:01:30
And, and and and I love him with my whole heart.
1:01:33
But at the end of the day, I've said it to y'all, I'll say it
1:01:37
out loud. Loyalty got him fired.
1:01:44
Loyalty got him fired. You got us to where we are in
1:01:48
general in the athletic department.
1:01:50
The whole thing. Come on.
1:01:51
The whole thing. Breach preacher.
1:01:54
The whole preacher? No.
1:01:56
I mean, how awkward do y'all think it was?
1:02:00
Go ahead. No, we got so.
1:02:02
Lucky, I think it was Brett probably get fired.
1:02:06
Brett probably got fired and say, you know, guys, I'm out of
1:02:09
here. It was a it was a pleasure
1:02:10
coaching you, you know, coaches, you know, it's great working
1:02:14
with you, blah blah, blah. And then players, coaches,
1:02:19
whoever do man, he wasn't worth the fuck.
1:02:22
He didn't do this, he didn't do that.
1:02:24
And then about three months later that motherfucker come
1:02:27
back through the dough. How y'all, how awkward do y'all
1:02:32
think that was? Well.
1:02:35
Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on.
1:02:40
I was. Tearing him up, I was.
1:02:42
Tearing him up, pull it in and ready.
1:02:46
One of our loyal listeners. He has pulled up to the bar here
1:02:50
first decked out in Philly, baby decked out in Philly.
1:02:53
We, we, we had the long conversation.
1:02:55
How does a Philly fan turn into a hokey fan?
1:02:58
He's like I, I was so and so years old and I watched Michael
1:03:01
Vick and that was it. And that was it right there and
1:03:05
ready. Appreciate you popping on with
1:03:06
the story. Bruce Smith.
1:03:09
Actually. Bruce Smith.
1:03:11
OK, OK. Were you in the womb?
1:03:13
You. Mean Bruce.
1:03:14
Real. Oh, that old.
1:03:15
Yeah, no. No I just looking all.
1:03:18
Right, that's AI from. And Andretti is on the on the
1:03:21
black don't crack path right there for sure.
1:03:25
Now I'm 45 man. Are you still young, Andretti?
1:03:30
Yeah, that's young. That do the baby.
1:03:35
All right, if. Somebody was about to get into
1:03:37
something here. I'm sorry dude.
1:03:38
I got no grain in this beard. Yet I just got one thing to say
1:03:42
to Tally, man. Y'all let Tally get away this
1:03:45
year. Tally was all for these guys,
1:03:48
man. Quarterback 1 He was, yeah, for
1:03:52
these guys, man. I've.
1:03:55
Seen it earlier on. These guys ain't.
1:04:01
I got it. I mean, I got to, I got to go
1:04:03
with it, Andre said. This ain't it.
1:04:05
Some of these coaches ain't it, and some of these players ain't
1:04:08
it. And I was like, man, get off
1:04:09
that ledge. You're going to be all right.
1:04:10
I was wrong. I am.
1:04:13
Now easy. Easy to say I was.
1:04:16
Wrong. Marv is about to get there on
1:04:18
fire from Colorado. I don't, I don't think.
1:04:22
I don't. Think Andre.
1:04:25
Andre. Trust me.
1:04:26
Nah, Marv's a little bit better what y'all think he is?
1:04:31
Dion does. Not need Marv he get fired I
1:04:33
don't. Need to hear more about that.
1:04:36
No, Marv, he's ready. Go ahead.
1:04:40
You give Marv the ability to focus on just his linebackers
1:04:43
and Marv's going to be a whole lot better off.
1:04:46
We would just talk about with Pry and all of those things and
1:04:49
I got to get up off here. So I'm going to leave this with
1:04:51
this. When it comes to coaching and
1:04:54
where I'm at, there's an understanding that you can be a
1:04:58
good coach and not be a good head coach.
1:05:01
You can be a good coach and not be a good coordinator.
1:05:05
And I think Pry understands that very well.
1:05:08
He's a good coach. He's a good coordinator.
1:05:10
He was not a good head coach. And that's what's going to make
1:05:13
it easier for him to step back in there because he understands
1:05:16
when those people are talking about he wasn't a good head
1:05:19
coach. He knows it.
1:05:22
He's been. He's his dad was a head coach,
1:05:24
his dad's a football coach. They know those things.
1:05:28
You can take their criticism and put it in however you need to
1:05:31
and he understands those things. Marv is going to be the same
1:05:36
way. He understood that he was in
1:05:37
over his head jumping in as ADC right then.
1:05:41
He's going to go back, he's going to build on the things
1:05:43
that he didn't figure out before and you're going to see him
1:05:46
again somewhere. It probably won't.
1:05:48
Be in Roxburgh. No, no, yeah.
1:05:51
What I'm saying as ADC, as ADC and things like that, he's going
1:05:56
to build his way back up. People are going to get it in
1:05:58
there, I hope. So that's a good dude right
1:06:00
there. Yeah.
1:06:01
He's a really good guy. We're just going to go with that
1:06:04
leaving. With a good guy like I don't.
1:06:07
But. I need an.
1:06:09
Asshole. Give me an asshole.
1:06:11
I need to. I need to hear the first thing
1:06:13
about me. He's a winner.
1:06:14
I don't care if he's a good. Person so many problems with our
1:06:17
program all over the place that like it's like I don't I.
1:06:22
Don't. Hey, the other side of that,
1:06:24
though, is what's going on in Michigan.
1:06:26
So I mean, you know. You mean the national
1:06:29
championship two years ago? No, I mean coach getting fired.
1:06:34
I'll take a national championship two years ago for
1:06:36
all that bullshit. Right now.
1:06:39
Right now, yes. I.
1:06:50
Would. You're not taking.
1:06:54
Going in the womb, he don't care.
1:06:56
He's been going to games since he was in the womb.
1:07:05
I don't. I look my my morals are
1:07:07
compromised. When they oh OK, this you honest
1:07:12
about it but once? We win that person Ezra
1:07:15
championship, we're going to go straight edge.
1:07:17
We're going to be fine. This how I look at it.
1:07:23
Come September, if we four and O, I'm going to see some dudes
1:07:27
streaking through the quad and I'm going to be like, I got bail
1:07:31
money already set aside for y'all.
1:07:33
I go to work and put the bail money aside.
1:07:36
I'll send you my number because y'all set the city on fire.
1:07:41
Chris said nothing but Dicks and titties on the drill field.
1:07:44
Running out, baby, running out. I'm just going to be sitting
1:07:47
there screaming. Hey, man.
1:07:49
Hey, we by the way Phil, we have went through that scandal once
1:07:52
we had Galen Scott years ago. Hey, I saw a I saw a
1:07:58
prerequisites for the Michigan higher and it was like the
1:08:01
requirements don't be horny, love football.
1:08:04
Hey man, you can't. You can't love football.
1:08:08
You can't, you can't love football.
1:08:09
Not be Hornets. Nobody, nobody.
1:08:12
You better hold it in from. The new.
1:08:14
If we. If we.
1:08:16
I'm bricked up about football. Let's go.
1:08:19
If we go through 2 back-to-back scandals and we win a national
1:08:22
championship and then we land on our feet with Kyle Whittingham,
1:08:25
I'll take it. That's true.
1:08:29
Everybody's coming to my side. The dark side.
1:08:31
Let's go. No, I mean, I'm desperate.
1:08:32
That's how that's where I am as a fan.
1:08:34
I'm so desperate right now to win.
1:08:37
I want to win. I want to win.
1:08:39
I want to win. I want to win too.
1:08:42
Long scandals come with winning. So you so you want to win bad
1:08:46
enough. You want to win bad enough that
1:08:48
the coach of the coach will cut itself with a butter knife.
1:08:52
Oh damn, here we go. Not win the National.
1:08:55
Championship Eagles did not win in that he was.
1:08:58
Up in there. He was, he was up in.
1:09:01
Something he was on. He was on.
1:09:03
Yeah, he was up. He was up in something.
1:09:05
He was up. A lot of something he.
1:09:08
Was up so, but nevertheless the unless they do get a top ten
1:09:11
class so. His whole family is calling it
1:09:14
for tickets and I don't have any tickets I got.
1:09:16
I got 4 Slims lines up. I don't know.
1:09:20
I got the gold package at the strip club, that's what I can.
1:09:23
I'm gonna let y'all guys rock that. 1.
1:09:29
Maybe we can get tried more as an analyst later.
1:09:38
How mad? Like I would have done the same
1:09:40
thing if I did something as dumb as he did.
1:09:42
I've been like, not keep me in jail.
1:09:44
Don't help me out, I need 2. Days that man said I'm about.
1:09:48
To I need a cool off period. I want the I'll take the
1:09:52
baloney. I'll take the pineapple.
1:09:54
I don't want to get out. I don't.
1:09:56
Want to get out? Can you imagine going to facial
1:09:58
wife? That's why he didn't want to get
1:10:00
out. That's why he didn't want to.
1:10:02
I don't want to get out and you extradite me somewhere.
1:10:07
Somewhere I I will not accept bond.
1:10:09
I'm not. No.
1:10:10
Nobody's posting bond. You've been posted bond.
1:10:12
Nope. Nope.
1:10:12
No, I've been posted bond. No, I have not.
1:10:15
Staying out here, a bunch of guard like I'm staying.
1:10:17
There that that is the deeper, darker conversation that we will
1:10:21
probably have on the chat line later.
1:10:23
Man, what about that? Because I that is it's not good.
1:10:28
I would never want I would never want that to happen.
1:10:30
That happened. In Blacksburg, No, no, no, no.
1:10:32
Sometime in that the. Crazy.
1:10:36
The crazy thing about the Sharon Moore thing is if he would just
1:10:40
have come out the next day, didn't, didn't go sideways, and
1:10:43
he just simply said, Yep, I fucked up, I banged her, I did
1:10:48
all this shit. Yep, I'm a terrible person and
1:10:51
just walked away. Hey, first of all, the man made
1:10:53
some money the last few years, got a little money in the bank
1:10:56
account. Two years, somebody hired him,
1:11:00
somebody would hire him. Because he was a good football.
1:11:02
Coach. You looking deep in his face
1:11:07
what you think And he just came out the next day and said I made
1:11:11
a mistake. I'm talking to Jesus.
1:11:13
I'm talking to Jesus. I'm never going to admit to
1:11:17
anything I want. You to admit.
1:11:21
You got to admit. To it wasn't me.
1:11:24
It wasn't me. If Bobby Petrino could come with
1:11:27
the neck brace at the press conference.
1:11:30
Bro, if Sharon just showed up in a neck brace, it'll all been
1:11:34
good. I'm telling.
1:11:35
You fine. Listen, at the end of the day,
1:11:38
it is one of the biggest fumbles.
1:11:41
And I don't. Remember in, in, in history.
1:11:44
Oh yeah, in history. That's that's the first thing
1:11:47
one of it's the biggest. I I said no, no, it's.
1:11:51
It's been some. It's been some others, but we're
1:11:54
not. The Baylor want to kill somebody
1:11:56
or like how to cover a murder up or.
1:11:57
Something back back. Brian Kelly did.
1:12:00
You go back to it. At the end of the day, had he
1:12:05
got there, said I'm going to go talk to Jesus and walked away
1:12:10
for a little bit, he'd probably be coaching somewhere down the
1:12:14
road. But that's not the problem we're
1:12:16
dealing with. Let's deal with the fact of the
1:12:18
matter. Yeah, that's.
1:12:20
It was the fact that matter that's it was the fact that
1:12:23
matter that we've had the most humblest coach we've we've had
1:12:27
something that's unprecedented. A guy get fired, get fired at
1:12:33
the place he was at all right. And then three months later,
1:12:37
he's exonerated by being the most outstanding guy to help us
1:12:41
get probably the best coach we've had since Frank Beamer.
1:12:47
Let's just deal with what what what Prague has to deal with in
1:12:50
his situation. Let's deal with that.
1:12:52
Let's deal with that. I like the fact that my head
1:12:54
coach and my defensive coordinator both have a giant
1:12:58
chip on their shoulder to prove they get the like.
1:13:00
Prague is to come back and and write his Virginia Tech ending
1:13:05
the way he wants it to be. Gets to continue to write that
1:13:07
story. And there's some people.
1:13:09
Talking real sick about him so I'm sure he got some points to.
1:13:11
Prove. Yeah, me, Franklin.
1:13:13
I wouldn't. Prove if and me.
1:13:15
Can y'all can y'all imagine the first time that defense gets
1:13:20
scored on? Well, I was said by Brett.
1:13:23
Oh my goodness, Twitter going to go crazy.
1:13:26
Especially if it's the first possession against VMI if we
1:13:31
play. VMI.
1:13:33
Yeah, yeah, we about to. It's about to.
1:13:37
I. Agree 100%.
1:13:38
Chip on your shoulder. 100% I agree, chip on your shoulder.
1:13:42
The best work I've ever done is when somebody thinks I they I
1:13:45
can't do it. Yeah.
1:13:46
It's 100%. Like I, I will be like, you tell
1:13:49
me I can't do it. I will.
1:13:51
OK, let's go. Franklin set this up in the
1:13:54
press conference, though. You've seen this coming when he
1:14:01
when he, he said good things about the program.
1:14:09
Yeah, we don't get that, Man without Pride said.
1:14:13
Come here. Yeah.
1:14:15
Jay Pearson's done interviews and he said, like, he called him
1:14:19
and said, hey, Brent. And he didn't call him back.
1:14:22
He said for like a week or two weeks.
1:14:23
And he didn't call him back. And he said, hey, if Franklin
1:14:26
comes here, you're going to work with him.
1:14:28
And he's like, yeah, sure. Well, let's go.
1:14:30
I would not. Yeah, like, of course like just
1:14:33
you deal with the awkwardness at first, so for.
1:14:38
James Franklin, I don't know another defensive coordinator.
1:14:41
We could have got this better for him.
1:14:44
No, like being real. Let's.
1:14:47
Let's talk about another thing. Too throw a lot of money.
1:14:49
If you're going to throw a lot of money at a defensive
1:14:51
coordinator like Penn State did, and he doesn't do it the way
1:14:56
James Franklin wants it done, guess what's going to happen.
1:14:58
You're going to lose. James Franklin seems like a guy
1:15:01
that's got to have people that he knows, that knows how he
1:15:03
works and knows the type of guy that he.
1:15:06
Is it'll look different? Yeah, it'll look different.
1:15:08
He looks like a he's all he, he, he has to have the trust.
1:15:11
I think. I mean, when we look at it too,
1:15:13
man, when we look at the experience, that pride reigns
1:15:17
from a court and. Brian, Brian, Brian.
1:15:19
Thank you. Oh, you're welcome, man.
1:15:21
You're welcome. You know what?
1:15:22
That's why I left. That's why I left him man.
1:15:26
But but on on prime, man, like when we think about the
1:15:30
defensive coordinators outside of Bud Foster that Virginia Tech
1:15:34
has had, has anybody else had the caliber and cachet that
1:15:39
Brent Pride is bringing to the table from a defensive
1:15:41
coordinator standpoint? Nope.
1:15:42
Not. At all.
1:15:44
So at at this point we're saying that Brent Pride from a resume
1:15:49
standpoint is the second best defensive coordinator Virginia
1:15:52
Tech has had ever made. Well, it wasn't just, but
1:15:56
certainly since Bud Foster. Yeah, it wasn't Jay Ham.
1:16:01
No, no, it wasn't Jay. Ham Foster.
1:16:04
Well done now. But but the but the whole piece
1:16:10
is with the pry hire. It's like if James Franklin had
1:16:12
taken any other job in, brought Brit pry, people would have all
1:16:15
over themselves like Oh my God, he's bringing it back.
1:16:17
Greatest, greatest great. That is a great.
1:16:19
Point I think. The other thing it says about
1:16:21
Pry and we talk about good guy, I truly think he actually
1:16:24
fucking gives a shit about Virginia Tech like he actually
1:16:27
wants that's. Undeniable, he's still.
1:16:30
Denying it because he was there when it took off 30 years ago,
1:16:33
he was there. He was there.
1:16:36
He loves Virginia Tech. He loves it.
1:16:38
He loves the place. Look how when they left and he
1:16:40
left, there was a picture of a box of shirts.
1:16:43
When? I love this.
1:16:44
Yeah. Well, remember, I just remember
1:16:49
when when they said that pride turned down Arkansas defensive
1:16:53
coordinator in Mississippi State defensive coordinator, I said
1:16:56
that he's going to come be our defensive coordinator because
1:16:59
you thought I thought originally he would be an analyst or
1:17:01
something. But when he turned the DC jobs
1:17:03
down, I said yeah, he's. Going to be a prat time Part 2.
1:17:07
Let's go. But the other thing is you want
1:17:10
to talk about a reckoning story or like rewriting your rewrite
1:17:12
your own, you know, biography or whatnot is what we're talking
1:17:16
about about 365 days from now. Because Phil, like your point,
1:17:20
like we're going, oh, he's going to get roasted on the socials
1:17:23
when they have bad games. Absolutely roasted.
1:17:28
But if you're sitting here at the end of 2026 and it's like,
1:17:32
God damn, we won nine games. The defense was top 20 in the
1:17:35
country. Higher.
1:17:37
Higher. I would I would love to know
1:17:41
what people and it's so early to know like what other teams are
1:17:44
going to do. But with our again, our schedule
1:17:46
is brutal. Next year, brutal.
1:17:48
Otherwise. Brutal.
1:17:51
So travel wise, travel wise, it's it's a, it's a upper half
1:17:55
schedule talent wise, but it is a awful schedule travel wise.
1:17:59
Are we taking hold on? Who do you all want off to know?
1:18:02
Who do you all want off next year, VMIODU or JMU?
1:18:08
Because one of them's. Gone JMU.
1:18:10
I want a showcase VMI game. I want VMI out in the showcase
1:18:14
game first game. I don't.
1:18:16
I don't want JMU off the schedule because right now JMU
1:18:19
is the best home game on the schedule next year.
1:18:21
They would draw depending, well, depending on what it's on, I
1:18:24
don't know. But I'm saying like from a match
1:18:26
up standpoint, everything else that is right now the best home
1:18:30
game that we have on our schedule next year, that's a
1:18:34
fucking problem. You know, he's talking about
1:18:36
from a John Ball standpoint. No, no, no, I know what Brian
1:18:39
said. He's saying from an eyeball
1:18:43
standpoint, JMUVT is like a pinpoint game for people because
1:18:48
they made the playoff. Virginia Tech is basically been
1:18:52
the best team in Virginia in the last 30 years or so.
1:18:55
I know what you're saying, it's the eyeball thing.
1:18:57
If we played JMU, Spencer, Coach Chaos was the defensive color
1:19:01
writer from Florida. He was a huge scapegoat
1:19:03
apparently. And that Gators team, they
1:19:05
blamed his ass for how bad their defensive line was.
1:19:08
So now he'd be playing against his old coach and fired his ass
1:19:11
like I. Maybe.
1:19:13
JMU cut VMI like that's that's that's the world we live in now.
1:19:17
The JMU is a better draw than whoever else we got we.
1:19:21
Give the flagship. Go ahead, Dan.
1:19:24
Go ahead and say it depends on what the ACC schedules us for
1:19:29
SMU, right? I think we're going to have a
1:19:31
prime time Rd. game, first game of the season.
1:19:33
That's what I think. Yeah.
1:19:35
But but my point being like look at have you looked at the home
1:19:37
schedule next year now that Brian hit a button?
1:19:42
He gone. It's bad.
1:19:43
The home schedule is bad. The home schedule right now.
1:19:47
BMIODUJMU, Virginia. Georgia Tech.
1:19:49
Pitts, Stanford, BMI, Old Dominion or JMU will get cut.
1:19:54
Somebody check on Brian for me? I don't think it'll be old to
1:19:58
you because we already cancelled the series, so I don't think
1:20:00
they're going to. It's going, it's going.
1:20:02
JMU is going to be the one that's going to get cut, but I'd
1:20:05
rather play JMU. I'm going to tell you why I want
1:20:09
to be the flagship program in the state.
1:20:12
I want to stay claim on the state so I want to go play JMUI,
1:20:15
want to play JMU now, OK. I want to smoke JMU now before
1:20:20
they get the opportunity to get strong OK again or get or be to
1:20:25
the point. I want to smoke Jmui, want to
1:20:28
beat ODU and I want to be UVA because that's the only way I
1:20:32
say I'm the best program in the state.
1:20:35
But we're going to probably cut the JMU game that's kind of
1:20:39
that's been out in the in the ether.
1:20:42
Their AD has said that about it. But I want to play JMU.
1:20:45
I want to pay JMU more than anybody else.
1:20:48
BMI is going to be, you know, a 65 to nothing game, You know,
1:20:53
just getting guys tuned up. I want to be ready because I got
1:20:56
to turn around. I got to go to Maryland.
1:20:58
I've got to go ahead and play ODUI want to be at my best man
1:21:01
because the goal is the floor is 9 games.
1:21:05
The floor is 9 regular season games.
1:21:08
That's the floor. That's the floor.
1:21:10
Hold on, hold on. I'm I'm saying this from the
1:21:15
point that I don't think this is a barren program with no talent.
1:21:23
If you're if you're. Looking if you're I'm, I'm
1:21:26
looking at 9 games, I can win 9 games, regular season games, I
1:21:32
can go get a bowl. I've already booked.
1:21:35
Man, I booked rooms for Charlotte every God damn year.
1:21:39
Let's. Go every year I book Charlotte.
1:21:41
Let's go. I book Charlotte every year.
1:21:44
That's home for me. You know I would love to go
1:21:46
home, but I'm just saying I book Charlotte every year so I'm
1:21:49
expecting midnight diner baby. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
1:21:53
What happens at midnight? Don't everybody don't get to
1:21:56
know Dan. Come on, you got to be in a.
1:21:57
Circle to know that. Yeah.
1:21:59
But what I'm saying is when it comes to the flagship thing and
1:22:02
people talk about JMU, it's like I always look at like if we want
1:22:06
to recruit or JNU wants to recruit, who's getting that
1:22:09
recruit? Yeah, yeah.
1:22:10
So there you go. I don't care if we play.
1:22:12
I know. I know what Chris wants to do.
1:22:15
I think he wants to squirrel stomp them and just put them.
1:22:17
Into a GM like. Back in your place.
1:22:20
I'm where you are you. Are not here, you are here.
1:22:24
Listen, I have, I have one of my sons, you know, one of my
1:22:28
adopted sons plays the JMU, OK? Our motto was always this, I
1:22:33
want you to have a great game except for when you checking the
1:22:35
kid and as long as you don't get the band played on you, I don't
1:22:39
care. That's our motto, OK?
1:22:41
I give him hell all the time. My whole point is I want to be
1:22:45
JMU, I want to be Virginia, and I want to be the ODU because we
1:22:49
are the flagship program of the state.
1:22:52
That's it. That's how it's got to be so.
1:22:54
You know. I think that's the one cut
1:22:56
though. Well, they're going to cut it,
1:22:58
but why that one? If they're cutting it, is it a
1:23:00
financial cut? Is it no.
1:23:01
No, no, we got 13 games because. No, no, no, no, I get that.
1:23:05
But of all the games, why cut cut?
1:23:07
VMVMI said. Come on, VMI's a joke.
1:23:09
It's shut up the moments on the. Board and So what what we're
1:23:12
saying you. Know where VMI is but playing
1:23:15
VMI is a joke. Fuck.
1:23:16
Fuck their coach analyst on our team mate.
1:23:22
Let's let's talk about something else though.
1:23:24
No, no, no, no, no. Look at this guy.
1:23:25
Hold on, hold on. Wait a SEC bro.
1:23:26
Look at the schedule if that happens, if that happens, then
1:23:30
you are going to likely get it's going to be a road game.
1:23:34
No, I don't think they'll give us road.
1:23:36
They're going to give us a whole game.
1:23:38
That is you. You don't like if I would love
1:23:41
to get JMU at home and take SMU on the road first game of the
1:23:45
season or whatever, you're going to showcase James Franklin
1:23:48
against somebody other than VMI, right?
1:23:50
Like you're not going to put James Franklin's first ever game
1:23:54
on ESPNACC network like X like against Vemmy like that ain't go
1:24:00
key. That's go moments on the Mori.
1:24:02
But fucking get get the key. That's a home game in Lexington,
1:24:05
so I can rent my place out. I'll give you a discount.
1:24:13
I'll give you a discount if you come stay in my place.
1:24:17
I'm just saying what's probably going to end up happening.
1:24:20
You're going to play VMI, but yeah, get get that dub out the
1:24:26
way and start off from there. But I mean, let's, let's be
1:24:30
honest, you turn around the end of September, if you're 3 and
1:24:32
one or you're 4 and O Blacksburg's on fire,
1:24:36
Everybody's running around, tits out, running, running the quad
1:24:40
because we've been one way. Yeah.
1:24:42
I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be crazy.
1:24:45
Not me, I understand. But I mean, you know, hey,
1:24:52
shameless as it might be, hey, go and get it out there.
1:24:56
Get. It.
1:24:57
Out. There, but that's what you're
1:25:01
looking for. You're you're, you're trying.
1:25:03
You're trying. To get can they?
1:25:05
Put that on a. Couldn't they put that anywhere?
1:25:07
I think that's what. But what?
1:25:09
Well, the whole thing also is that, I mean, look at the home
1:25:12
schedule right now. So if if you if you kick JMU off
1:25:15
the schedule, your best home game the whole year is going to
1:25:19
be Brent Keys picked apart staff and roster.
1:25:23
No no no pit Georgia. It's going to be the best game.
1:25:25
It's. Going to be that's going.
1:25:30
To be. A Oh my God.
1:25:31
It's always a game. I mean, I think what you want.
1:25:34
I want to fuck this burger. Fucking man, I'm I'm never going
1:25:38
to get. Picked so 100 points.
1:25:42
Also, James Franklin hates Narduzzi.
1:25:45
So yeah, it's true. It'd be fun to Dick shit
1:25:48
Narduzzi for sure. And the thing with James?
1:25:50
You is Bob. Hollywood Bob is going to take
1:25:53
that roster or whoever he wants to LA.
1:25:56
He going back to Cali with big. And you know what?
1:26:00
I'm. Saying so like.
1:26:02
A Napier is probably going to bring in something, but either
1:26:05
way I don't know. And ready what you got.
1:26:07
Port on the day. Anybody enrolled in early?
1:26:13
For us. Those guys get up here.
1:26:15
A Lot of those guys are we have, yeah, we had a lot of that said
1:26:18
they were enrolling early. I'll give you, I'll give you,
1:26:21
I'll give you. I know, I know two aren't aren't
1:26:25
enrolling early. I know one is enrolling early.
1:26:30
I mean, but, but, but I mean, I but even even what you talk
1:26:36
about for us when you talk about the other 26 kids.
1:26:38
Yeah. Listen, I'm, I'm going to be
1:26:41
totally honest with you. You ain't going.
1:26:45
To see none of them. You're not seeing those 26 kids.
1:26:49
The 26 kids aren't going to be the factor.
1:26:51
I'm going to be honest with you, The factor It's going to be your
1:26:55
portal kids. You mean the running back?
1:26:58
No, no, no, no. Not with Overton and Hawkins.
1:27:04
Hawkins might be a Ford, but like he's.
1:27:06
Not going to be somebody else, but you want so many of them.
1:27:10
Autumn Lineman. He's still selling and he's
1:27:11
getting these kids to come. You're going to sit on your
1:27:13
you're going to sit for a year and he's still coming.
1:27:15
There's going to be I'm just pretty damn impressive.
1:27:18
I would have a lot of respect for that.
1:27:20
I would have a ton of respect for that.
1:27:22
If you can sign this class and y'all like y'all are going to
1:27:24
sit. No, but it's not.
1:27:26
So it's not so much that a kid comes here and sit, says hey,
1:27:29
I'm going to sit. A kid comes here.
1:27:32
I, I, I just got one, a kid comes here and he realized it's
1:27:36
the difference between playing high school ball and playing,
1:27:40
playing college ball. The speed is the speed is
1:27:43
different. And if you don't get there in
1:27:45
January, it's going to be hard for a kid to be able to get out
1:27:48
there and start like if everything.
1:27:51
Is a bad thing. When I say sit I don't think
1:27:53
that's a bad thing. Like red shirts I love that.
1:27:55
But the kids mindset I assume is now I'm the best.
1:27:58
Like I'm not sitting. Shit no and and they can want to
1:28:01
be the best, but when they get there on college and they
1:28:05
realize classes getting up extra early, I ain't there to wake
1:28:09
your ass up to get you to go to fucking what are you supposed
1:28:12
to? Get you?
1:28:13
You got to be on time, the speed of it and there's 3-4 other
1:28:16
guys. It's like fuck you.
1:28:17
I don't excuse my French, but we we together, we drink it.
1:28:20
Fuck you. I don't care about your stars.
1:28:22
It's a different speed and they got to accommodate to that, and
1:28:26
they don't accommodate to that till spring ball.
1:28:30
They don't get it till spring ball.
1:28:32
OK. And so once they get it in
1:28:33
spring ball, then they start realizing, oh, I can play The
1:28:37
only place where you can see a guy maybe playing early this
1:28:42
year, Mickens can probably do it.
1:28:46
He's going to drop a little weight.
1:28:47
He's going to get leaner. But man, what we fail to
1:28:50
realize, man, is Jeffrey Overton junior didn't have a whole
1:28:52
offseason. And we're at we're at an hour
1:28:56
and 28 minutes into this broadcast.
1:28:59
Jeffrey Overton, junior did not have an offseason and he still
1:29:03
look like that. Of all the.
1:29:06
Kids that signed in that class, I was more I wanted, I wanted
1:29:11
Jeremiah Deloach, I wanted Jeffrey Overton Junior.
1:29:15
Those are my two guys. I had to outside of my green run
1:29:18
kids. Those are the two kids that I
1:29:20
wanted to have come and Jeffrey Overton Junior.
1:29:25
Stone Bridge, right? Who Overton?
1:29:28
Overton was at freedom then he went to.
1:29:31
He went to hate. He went to hate hay field and
1:29:34
they had they. Had that had all that bullshit
1:29:37
happened? There you go.
1:29:39
You said that I didn't as long as you said.
1:29:41
It there was a whole lot of bullshit.
1:29:43
Yeah, yeah. But.
1:29:44
He was. The most he was he was the
1:29:47
Gatorade player of the year and he was the only guy that I
1:29:50
believe deserved to be the Gatorade player of the year.
1:29:53
Outside the kid that I fed for the last 10 years of my life.
1:29:57
He is everything in a bag of chips I love Jeffrey Overton
1:30:02
Junior. He kept his red shirt too.
1:30:05
FYI. Everybody he kept.
1:30:07
His red shirt. Hey Let.
1:30:09
Me tell you this, let me one one name to keep an eye on that
1:30:13
might have some impact in 2026 from the 2026 class out pretty
1:30:20
soon. Wiggins.
1:30:22
I'm not even going to say Wiggins.
1:30:23
I think Wiggins could play, but Tyson Harley to me, just because
1:30:29
of being a situational pass rusher, indeed, that and he's
1:30:33
already got the body to, to, to play at this level.
1:30:36
Indeed, that's the guy to to, to circle because guys that are
1:30:40
just pass rushers can get them to feel early, just like a
1:30:42
cornerback and get them to feel early, right.
1:30:44
Same type of deal. Tyson Harley.
1:30:46
Circle the name, Yeah. Beat this drum.
1:30:50
Beat this drum. The whole portal.
1:30:51
Beat it. Damn.
1:30:52
I know. Like we got a class coming
1:30:55
that's going to be great and we got kids staying.
1:30:57
That's cool. But if people, if talent wants
1:31:00
to come, like Peyton Lewis, take them, I don't care.
1:31:03
Like if you good enough to beat them out, beat them out.
1:31:06
If you're not good enough to play, then you can figure it
1:31:08
out. It's a slippery slope though.
1:31:10
That's. A That's a crowded room.
1:31:11
That's the problem. It's a crowded room.
1:31:13
What a crowded room. I wouldn't have a problem with
1:31:15
it. Well, we got 3.
1:31:15
Runs right now, but yeah, you just can't get people to come
1:31:19
because you got to pay them. Like, bro, you got to be
1:31:22
strategic with where you put that money.
1:31:23
When you get a kid that's been in the SEC, even if they're not
1:31:27
playing, they're getting paid a certain amount of money.
1:31:30
Most Phillips got paid. I ain't in his house, but he got
1:31:33
paid a certain amount of money. Missouri.
1:31:36
He got paid a certain amount of money to go to Missouri and sit
1:31:38
on the bench. All.
1:31:40
And we couldn't use that amount of money, you know what I'm
1:31:43
saying? We couldn't just prioritize the
1:31:45
line. Hey, hey, so I'm I'm going to
1:31:46
say I'm going to say this name to you, Dan me and you haven't
1:31:50
talked offline on this. See if you're going to bring in
1:31:53
Peyton, Peyton Lewis, you're forgetting the fact of the
1:31:56
matter. You got Cam Seldon on your
1:31:58
football team and Cam Seldon is totally playing himself out of
1:32:03
his position. I'll say that out loud.
1:32:07
Cam Selden is trying to become a wide receiver.
1:32:10
He's a four, three guy who can fly.
1:32:12
I I'm sorry man, if we. Was running back in Tennessee,
1:32:16
right? Come on, come on, come on.
1:32:20
So certain people get help. Yeah.
1:32:25
You know, if if you go back and look at the numbers, Cam Selden
1:32:28
was like second in receptions. Curtis is Curtis is a stat guy
1:32:32
because Sheldon ain't here. Cam Selden is like second in
1:32:36
receptions because they wanted to get the ball in his hand and
1:32:39
be able to get him to use that 43 speed.
1:32:42
I'm telling you, there are some things that are going to happen
1:32:45
in this. You got Mickens, you got you got
1:32:48
Overton, we got Hawkins. We going to have a couple other
1:32:52
guys going to running backroom that y'all ain't expecting.
1:32:55
Well, how's this offense? How's the offense going to be
1:32:57
different? That's I guess that's my thing
1:33:00
'cause it are all fine to spend like I.
1:33:03
Don't know how the office is going to be different.
1:33:05
The fucking line. Well, the.
1:33:08
Line's going to improve. The line has to improve for the
1:33:10
auction to. Be improved and a border board
1:33:12
starting. But he's bringing in a pocket
1:33:14
passer like he's going to. You bet the line that'll be.
1:33:18
I don't know if it's a true pocket passer.
1:33:20
It's going to be somebody that can throw from the pocket with
1:33:23
wiggle. It's not going to be a true dual
1:33:25
threat if you if that's what we're talking about.
1:33:27
Spit on it, Brian. Spit on the mic, Brian.
1:33:30
Spit on the mic, Brian. That's it.
1:33:31
Yeah. You're you're you're going to
1:33:35
nobody you're getting. Broke up.
1:33:36
Both are dual. Hey, here's here's here's here's
1:33:39
the biggest thing you're going to have what time you're going
1:33:41
to have a, you're going to have a full time.
1:33:43
Coach something that. Kyron didn't have and that's
1:33:46
going to be a big boost to that guy.
1:33:48
Sure you got full time, but if our offensive line.
1:33:53
If. Our offensive line struggled to
1:33:55
pass block last. Year and we're.
1:33:56
We're going to get that much. Better that we can pass block
1:33:59
this year that quick. That's my concern.
1:34:02
Did you see this running the transfer portal?
1:34:04
Anybody. Just today XX is in. 2525
1:34:10
billion. Dollars.
1:34:12
You. Bringing Chaplin back.
1:34:14
No, but great. I mean it.
1:34:16
Was. Around a program with rent rod.
1:34:18
Pays him? I hope so.
1:34:19
But was quarterback. I mean, quarterback went like
1:34:22
that, man. Come again?
1:34:24
I didn't hear you. I'm sorry bro, quarterback ones
1:34:26
going to be somewhere between like. 1 1/2 and 3 1/2.
1:34:31
Not, not a lot, OK. That's the market, that's.
1:34:35
The market. I shared.
1:34:38
This with some guys that I love. And I know.
1:34:41
I'm Chris remember we streaming live FY right right pulling back
1:34:45
this new town and the XO's is. Hidden right now if if if you,
1:34:48
if you. Get you pay 10 million.
1:34:51
You change this. Football team forever.
1:34:54
You change this because you go. Get 4 offensive.
1:34:56
Lineman and a quarterback, you've got enough skill pieces
1:35:00
around you that you'll be able to be super Uber competitive in
1:35:06
in this year. You're going to, you're going to
1:35:07
pour you no, no, no. If you spend 10 total if you
1:35:12
spend. 10. On offense for underlying and a
1:35:18
quarterback, you already got a four-star.
1:35:20
Tight in on your roster? Already OK, he might not be able
1:35:24
to block work for damn, but he's still a four-star guy.
1:35:27
Hey, hey, I'm just saying, you know, can I say something?
1:35:32
Too. Go ahead, Chris.
1:35:32
I don't. Mean to jump in over you, but
1:35:34
like. One of the things that we're
1:35:36
going to see with a Tahal offense is we're going to see
1:35:40
that tight end get some work right.
1:35:44
So if you so we have we haven't had anybody that's been.
1:35:47
Able to really dominate the middle of the field since Daquan
1:35:51
Law, Daquan right, left to go to Ole Miss.
1:35:53
You go and get that guy that can dominate the middle of the
1:35:56
field. That means you draw more one on
1:35:58
ones on the outsides and you give me a Aiden Green and you
1:36:02
give me somebody else on the outside that can run one-on-one
1:36:06
routes. I know that kid.
1:36:09
Yeah. Yeah.
1:36:10
So you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
1:36:12
I'm. I'm, I'm yeah, so.
1:36:13
You'll be OK, but if you turn around and go get 4 offensive
1:36:18
lineman and a quarterback because that quarterback you get
1:36:22
is got to be a one year guy and then you got to have a backup
1:36:26
guy who can go in. God forbid something happens to
1:36:29
the number one because your future is hewn.
1:36:33
That's your future. Yeah, Hume, Hume is your future.
1:36:39
And and you give him a year inside the system with a with
1:36:41
with. With DOB.
1:36:43
I think we'll be fine. That's just an act of if there's
1:36:46
an act of God where you can finesse probula and grump to
1:36:50
both, you can. The thing is, you can do it.
1:36:55
The thing is you. Actually can do that.
1:36:57
You're going to. You're going to.
1:36:59
You're going to you're. Going to over.
1:37:01
You can, so that's probably 5. Million for.
1:37:04
For two quarterbacks. Right, you're going to overpay.
1:37:06
You're going to overpay for your backup, right?
1:37:09
Right. But you know what?
1:37:10
I'm a fan. Hold on, I'm a.
1:37:11
Fan of the San Francisco 40? Niners, we have the highest.
1:37:14
Paid backup in the league. You know what?
1:37:17
It's benefited us this year. You pay your backup.
1:37:20
It's the reason they paid pop. Last year it was stupidity.
1:37:23
We didn't play him some this year because the kid deserved a
1:37:25
chance when it proved the offense couldn't work correctly.
1:37:29
And the whole thing is you pay your back up because if that
1:37:32
guy. Goes down.
1:37:34
If it's prevailing Grunk and mine, let's say that's it.
1:37:36
You pay Privula 3, you give Grunk 2 and there's 5 right
1:37:40
there. Do you have any fear if
1:37:43
something happens to prevail like this year?
1:37:45
He screws his leg. Up we're going to be.
1:37:46
OK, Yeah, we're going to be OK. That kid can play too.
1:37:49
The question is going to be, though.
1:37:51
Hold on, wait a SEC. Hold on, wait a SEC.
1:37:52
Hold on. Just for you, Dan, Hey.
1:37:58
Sam. Levitt, Sam Levitt, Quarterback
1:38:01
I. Had to do it.
1:38:02
Sorry, Andre, it's an inside visionary season is a Sean
1:38:08
Levitt, Sam Levitt fan account at this point.
1:38:13
Oh, Andretti jumped off Anyway, what I what I was going to say
1:38:16
though, is that you got 5 million tied up in in two
1:38:19
quarterbacks. The question is going to be, is
1:38:22
Grunt Meyer going to want to come to Blacksburg to be a
1:38:26
backup? That's the question that that I
1:38:30
think needs to be solved. Because if if he doesn't.
1:38:33
He's already tasted what being a starting quarterback in the Big
1:38:36
10 is light. Is Grunt Meyer going to want to
1:38:39
come to Blacksburg to be a backup?
1:38:41
I think you tell regardless of the money, I think he's telling
1:38:44
me the chance to compete. For it.
1:38:46
And if he if he fought? If he doesn't.
1:38:48
Get it? He still.
1:38:48
Has two years of eligibility to. What?
1:38:51
Can't happen in the spring. What can't they do anymore?
1:38:56
Transfer. They can't transfer you you.
1:39:00
The way I feel about James. Franklin.
1:39:03
And talent staring at. His phone, I don't know what
1:39:05
he's reading. He's been reading for like 6
1:39:06
minutes, so he's reading something important.
1:39:08
I feel like Franklin's that type of guy who lays things out and
1:39:12
will sell to whoever he has, whether it's one or two guys,
1:39:17
and he's like, this is how we're going to do.
1:39:18
You're going to compete. The best guy who's going to win.
1:39:20
The best guy is going to win. But you've got multiple years of
1:39:23
eligibility. You come in here and compete.
1:39:25
I'm going to see you every single day.
1:39:27
You know what's likely going to happen next year?
1:39:28
You don't get that $1,000,000 pay moment.
1:39:31
You don't go to three. Not at 2 anymore.
1:39:33
But you got to sit with me this year too.
1:39:37
And there you go, my biggest. Question on Franklin.
1:39:41
Is how he manages all this. Nil money he.
1:39:44
Had a ton of NIL money at Penn State and if you listen to that
1:39:48
apparently audio that leaked audio, like they got top five in
1:39:53
L money at Penn State. How do you manage that and how
1:39:55
not so much how do you manage like who you sign, but how do
1:40:00
you manage the locker room? And like somebody gets this or
1:40:03
somebody gets that because those West Virginia guys like that
1:40:06
Steve guy, the rumor is like he's like they just offered him
1:40:08
more money and Frank's like that's above our pay skit for
1:40:11
that freshman. So I'd be interested to know how
1:40:14
he handles that because he's never jumped with that.
1:40:16
So, but you got, you got to understand what he had in that.
1:40:19
Room. He had three NFL guys.
1:40:21
Out the gate, Nick Singleton, NFL guy, right?
1:40:26
Katron Allen, NFL guy, one of his touches, right.
1:40:30
Drew Aller, NFL guy, right. And so you turn around, the
1:40:35
piece that they lost was Todd Warren.
1:40:39
And the outside guys weren't ready.
1:40:42
They didn't they wouldn't get Pena from Syracuse, you know
1:40:46
what I'm saying? They didn't have any outside
1:40:47
guys from the throat of football.
1:40:48
So that that kind of really, even though this was supposed to
1:40:52
be a senior laden team that they had, they didn't have any
1:40:56
outside guys that could really, you know, be able to enhance
1:40:58
Drew Aller. And Drew Aller went from you go
1:41:01
back and look at his numbers from his sophomore year to his
1:41:04
junior year, his junior, he was excellent.
1:41:07
He was just trying to take the next step up.
1:41:09
So man, this is just, this is just a chip in a lot of
1:41:14
different households, including mine.
1:41:16
It's chip on shoulder season, man.
1:41:19
It's chip on shoulder. You know, I got fired wrong.
1:41:24
I got stuff to prove. You know, we're sitting here on
1:41:27
the 26th, you know, we drinking and January 2nd is going to be
1:41:32
going to be Christmas again, because you're going to be able
1:41:35
to see, oh man, that that's going to be that's going to be
1:41:40
crazy. Man, that second is.
1:41:41
Going to be. Crazy.
1:41:42
You know, some of us going to have most of y'all, everybody in
1:41:46
this room going to have their mortgage paid and everything
1:41:48
going to be straight. It's going to be a lot of folks
1:41:50
trying to get the mortgage paid on the second because it's going
1:41:52
to be a lot of folks who's going to enter into that portal and
1:41:55
it's going to be a lot of different things.
1:41:56
It's going to pop off. That's going to change the
1:41:59
fortunes of this football team in a different way.
1:42:01
And so many reports, man, early reports the North Pole is that
1:42:04
portal Santa is in the best shape of his life.
1:42:07
Yeah, he he, he is shape. He is shape.
1:42:10
We want to we're hearing some. We're hearing some as many as
1:42:12
like 18 plus Penn State. Guys ready?
1:42:15
To ride over to Blacksburg, but I would be absolutely floored if
1:42:21
we get a huge exodus of Penn. State.
1:42:23
I hope I'm wrong and I want to be wrong.
1:42:26
I would be floored if we get a huge accident of Penn State to
1:42:30
Vt. What's huge?
1:42:31
What's the number? I had AI, had a dude tell me.
1:42:35
You know, you know he a food service.
1:42:38
Guy he, his number was 44 guys, 44 guys, he said.
1:42:49
Food. Service guy.
1:42:52
Hey. He said total 40. 4 Four guys in
1:42:55
the portal from us for us, we were going to have a flip over
1:43:00
of 40. Four guys.
1:43:02
When we. When he hit, when he when he
1:43:06
went through the numbers, not me, I was just doing the math,
1:43:10
but when he went through the numbers, it's like 44 guys 4 out
1:43:16
out out of how many? Hold on, what's the roster?
1:43:19
Right there we got 100. We got 105 guys.
1:43:21
We. Got 100 five guys.
1:43:23
We got 105. Scholarships.
1:43:25
I was graduating. Yeah.
1:43:29
Hold on. Wait the.
1:43:30
Biggest The biggest complaint? That I heard on Penn.
1:43:33
State guys was they were so. Pissed.
1:43:34
Off that, Franklin gave Liam Clifford any nil money at all
1:43:40
because his name is Liam Clifford.
1:43:42
Is that why? And they were.
1:43:44
Like why are we paying Lee and Clifford to come back?
1:43:47
To be a a number. Five wide receiver.
1:43:50
That was their biggest complaint.
1:43:52
We are 44. We are looking at 44.
1:43:54
Chris and I broke it down when Chris, Hey.
1:43:56
Hey, hey, hey, hey. We broke it down.
1:44:00
It wasn't crazy. It wasn't crazy.
1:44:02
It wasn't crazy. He was he was spot on.
1:44:04
Wait 44? So like more than half our
1:44:07
roster down. James Franklin does.
1:44:10
Not like them. Yeah, that's like Judge Williams
1:44:13
when he came in and was like, no, you suck.
1:44:15
What? The hell.
1:44:16
All right, so. Half the offensive line is gone.
1:44:18
Got it? Cool.
1:44:19
We know that. No, no, no.
1:44:21
See. See what we're what we're
1:44:23
missing is we're not looking at graduating.
1:44:24
Guys, well, that's our question. How many we got leaving?
1:44:27
Yeah, that's like 15 or 20 by themselves.
1:44:29
That's like, that's like. Half of it, OK.
1:44:32
We're walk ONS, are we losing walk ONS that we're walk ONS
1:44:35
that aren't getting there's? Technical.
1:44:37
That that that's the exercise for y'all to do off of this.
1:44:42
Podcast. No, we're going to do it right
1:44:44
now. I'm going to pull it up.
1:44:44
No Curtis. No, Curtis.
1:44:47
Don't crunch the numbers right now.
1:44:49
No mad, don't press the. Numbers, Curtis put.
1:44:51
It in ChatGPT Put it in ChatGPT that we.
1:44:54
Could do. Hey, Curtis, you don't want to.
1:44:56
Have that tape, but I'm telling you.
1:44:58
You got about what when me? When me and me and Dan did it,
1:45:02
we were legitimate. It was about 44 guys.
1:45:05
It's another 24 guys on this, on this.
1:45:08
So we're talking about 20 Penn State guys and another 2015 to
1:45:12
20. Coming in from the portal
1:45:13
elsewhere, y'all y'all are y'all counting the graduates?
1:45:18
Because the. Guys who?
1:45:19
Graduate. I'm not counting anything.
1:45:23
We were count. I was.
1:45:24
Counting kids I would keep from our team that's still in
1:45:29
eligibility. Yes, Nomad.
1:45:31
OK. And then you add hold.
1:45:34
On here We Go, Brent Clatter. Bra.
1:45:36
Yes. Oh.
1:45:37
Yeah, keeping. Them.
1:45:40
Are we just doing the rundown? We just started at the top doing
1:45:42
the rundown. Don't do that, Curtis.
1:45:46
That's not good. That's that's.
1:45:47
That's not good content. That's not good content.
1:45:50
Eight guys are coming to tech. I think that's a more relevant
1:45:52
question. You said, you said.
1:45:54
What's #20 You said 20 What's? Temper do you consider huge.
1:45:58
Bill. I think 20 would be incredible.
1:46:01
I really do like. We had. 31st off we had 30 guys
1:46:06
leave last year. You brought 30 guys in last
1:46:10
year. The caliber of guys that you
1:46:12
brought in were not the caliber that you had on this team that
1:46:18
left. Can we say that?
1:46:20
Can we can we say that and not be in trouble?
1:46:22
That does happen on a three and nine team.
1:46:23
That is the team. So so that math.
1:46:26
Is Matting. That math is matting.
1:46:29
So if you bring 30 guys. In that.
1:46:32
Are 3343 to four-star guys higher?
1:46:38
You can bring 30 guys in. I would prefer to bring in more
1:46:42
kids that are not from Penn State in the portal because to
1:46:45
me that shows more influence and range from Franklin than just
1:46:49
because you're not going to be able to go to the Penn State.
1:46:51
Well, every year you see what I'm saying?
1:46:52
So, right, although to his point, he's probably not going
1:46:55
to be going to the transfer. Portal.
1:46:57
Well. Heavy.
1:46:59
Like he like he is this year, every year.
1:47:01
So he doesn't have, he doesn't have to like this year.
1:47:04
He can lead on Penn State because he already has that
1:47:07
connection. Going forward, he's going to
1:47:09
have to be pulling guys from other places. 16 left Penn State
1:47:13
last year. 8 went to Penn State last year.
1:47:16
He is not the big. He is not Dabo Sweeney basically
1:47:20
saying one guy, but he is looking for very specific the
1:47:25
best teams. The best teams build through
1:47:27
high school. Absolutely, initially.
1:47:30
Initially you can have a spark, a portal, but.
1:47:33
You better. Build through high school,
1:47:35
right? We were able to coach them up,
1:47:37
so you've got to be able to get 22 to 2022.
1:47:42
To 28 kids in high school every year to keep your team building
1:47:47
through high school. But this year will be the
1:47:50
exception because you have 25 kids that were in the that were
1:47:55
at Penn State that you're going to draw from, you're going to
1:47:59
have 20. You know, you don't have those
1:48:00
kids you're going to be bringing, right?
1:48:03
So this should be an extension. This should be an extension.
1:48:06
Right this year is. Like a gutting out he's going to
1:48:08
get rid of right the what's what he doesn't feel is.
1:48:12
Worth, he feels like. Trimming the fat.
1:48:14
He's trimming the fat, he feels like.
1:48:18
Yeah, right. Trimming the fat.
1:48:20
He's getting rid of what he feels is worthless.
1:48:22
But I'm going to say. This.
1:48:24
Real quick, I'm. Going to go back to Brent Pry
1:48:26
real quick. Yeah, We got to go back to
1:48:28
Brent. Now I want to talk about Brent
1:48:29
for one reason, because when we sat on.
1:48:31
This program. Four years ago, that wasn't
1:48:34
pretty. Four years ago I was really
1:48:37
drunk. Really drunk.
1:48:40
Not like this year, I'm sober. This year, but.
1:48:42
If you look at where we are. As far as it goes.
1:48:46
Recruiting. How it wise and all that
1:48:49
internally? How much?
1:48:51
Better and I'm looking. At Tally and Brian because we
1:48:53
talked. About because four years.
1:48:54
Ago, we were drunk. We were.
1:48:55
Mad. We were six and six.
1:48:57
We had 520. We were in the garbage dumps,
1:49:00
but we look at our talent and it was just like, God, it's, it's
1:49:04
no talent here. We've burned all the bridges.
1:49:07
We started reading the stories. Every bridge burned in the
1:49:10
region, every bridge burned in Virginia.
1:49:12
And then you started looking at the talent and everybody's like
1:49:14
when, when, when, when Brett came in 2022 and we won three
1:49:18
frigging games. It was just.
1:49:19
Like, oh, this team's terrible. This is horrible.
1:49:21
He's a horrible coach. And it's like, no, not really,
1:49:24
because we started looking at how many of those guys went pro,
1:49:27
how many of those guys went to other teams and succeeded.
1:49:30
Little, right, little to none. And then I.
1:49:35
Look at the roster. This year and you see guys like
1:49:38
Noah Chambers play. You see, Jeff?
1:49:40
Overton junior play you see a guy like Kalor tuner who ungodly
1:49:44
I mean Brian you played D3 that kid is a red shirt freshman
1:49:48
starting as a center and he played pretty daggone good yeah
1:49:53
I feel like where we were four years ago to where we are now
1:49:57
just. Talent wise.
1:49:59
In that building is significantly higher.
1:50:03
And I don't. Know if anybody?
1:50:03
Else feels that way. If somebody doesn't feel that
1:50:06
way, then say it. We need to get this guy on here
1:50:08
because he's saying no Devil dogs where?
1:50:17
Where's he at? Where's he at?
1:50:19
I'm drunk. I would agree.
1:50:20
Though shout out to pride for that and and Franklin even said.
1:50:24
Like he resurrected. Like he brought the Virginia
1:50:27
back into Virginia Tech with that because Fuente gave no
1:50:31
fucks about Virginia. Like I could say that.
1:50:35
I could say that he could coach up a first quarter and a half,
1:50:38
but I mean, he didn't give a shit about recruiting Virginia.
1:50:40
So Brent Pryde, Richmond, TX Brent Pryde got.
1:50:46
A a rent he got. A shell of a house.
1:50:49
When he came here, sure, absolutely.
1:50:51
Brent Pryde had. He got very few PP five guys at
1:50:57
that time on his roster. Brent Pry in the two years in
1:51:03
the three years he was. Here.
1:51:05
He has his 20, his 23 class, his 24 and his 25 class have
1:51:12
Division 1P4 talent. What James Franklin is going to
1:51:17
do on a on a hyper level is take that talent, boost it up, give
1:51:23
it accountability, make them get them coached hard that the
1:51:28
majority's kids want to and then add to it that.
1:51:32
It's going to be iron. Sharpen iron What?
1:51:35
What James Franklin's going to get compared to a?
1:51:39
Brent. Pride got is night and day as a
1:51:42
football team there we're talking about 40 kids.
1:51:46
Well, James Franklin's also how many X times better of a head
1:51:50
football. Coach right, but but but but and
1:51:53
and and and besides that of him being a being a better HC.
1:51:58
But the thing about it is that the evaluation of talent that
1:52:02
he's going to have to work with, he's not coming bare bones.
1:52:04
You got to remember, Belichick turned around and brought in 70
1:52:11
guys to the portal. We're talking about 40.
1:52:14
Yeah, Well, well, excuse me. Dan's talking about 40 to 44.
1:52:19
Dan's talking about 40. It's alleged he.
1:52:22
Got a homeboy? That might agree with him, but
1:52:25
there's 40 that yeah, you talk about 40 kids too.
1:52:30
But is it, is it harder? Because I don't think it's
1:52:32
harder to get people to come to Blacksburg.
1:52:35
Than Happy Valley. I don't think there's much
1:52:37
difference. Well, no difference is going to
1:52:39
be who you're making play it against.
1:52:41
Yeah, I only know one. I only know one family that has
1:52:44
a hard time. Deciding between Blacksburg and
1:52:47
Hampton Valley sounds like the Poindexter family is who it
1:52:50
sounds like let's know know who know who's on the.
1:52:53
Staff know who's on the staff. Well, you got one regardless.
1:52:56
I, I I only know one family that didn't want to deal with.
1:53:00
Ice. Cream and bowling all the time.
1:53:03
Anybody else? They got their own differences.
1:53:06
I only know of one family. I can only attest to one family.
1:53:11
But at the end of the day, Blacksburg, Blacksburg is just
1:53:17
different. Blacksburg is.
1:53:18
Home Blacksburg. Blacksburg.
1:53:20
Will always be home. I'm, I mean, I'm a Carolina guy.
1:53:25
I'm I'm, I'm, I'm Michael Jordan, you know, I'm Jimmy
1:53:29
Black, Carolina guy. OK.
1:53:32
And if anybody knows who Jimmy Black is, they will understand.
1:53:35
I'm a Jimmy Black basketball guy.
1:53:37
I've been a Carolina guy my whole life.
1:53:39
Whole life. Famous Amos Lawrence was my
1:53:42
favorite football player from Carolina.
1:53:44
But I'm a hokey because I love this program, what this program
1:53:48
brings. So we'll be OK.
1:53:51
What's going on? Nothing much.
1:53:54
How are y'all you drunk? What are you drinking on?
1:53:57
What you drinking on? What drink Coke, man?
1:53:59
Woodford. And Coke.
1:54:01
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Woodford occur that's.
1:54:05
My guy. So what you got?
1:54:09
Go ahead, go ahead. Bro I was going to say what you
1:54:13
what you got. For us.
1:54:15
Hey. It looks great.
1:54:17
Man I I enjoy. Everything y'all doing?
1:54:20
Here and everything and I've got it going.
1:54:31
Hey, man. What?
1:54:39
Kind of shirt you got on Alabama Internet.
1:54:58
That's. Fine, no, But the Internet's
1:55:02
great. The Internet's great.
1:55:03
And two. That that me is is is hidden.
1:55:04
So I got the got the drug. Working for me, but no, man, I'm
1:55:07
just taking everything in. I mean everything that's being
1:55:10
said, I'm kind of I mean it feels, feels tags as it all show
1:55:17
me, you know what I'm saying? Like we probably need to come
1:55:20
back after the portal is open and we get the, the, the guys in
1:55:25
and, and come back and reconvene on this state of the program.
1:55:29
Because we don't really, this is the state of the program in
1:55:32
December. You know what I'm saying?
1:55:34
The state of the program in January is going to be totally
1:55:36
different. We still haven't got, we still
1:55:39
haven't got the real, the real players that we need to come
1:55:43
back. We haven't got those running
1:55:45
backs yet. You know, there's still some
1:55:47
running backs that we got to get in.
1:55:49
That's still the portal guys that we got to see.
1:55:51
We need to know who our quarterback is.
1:55:53
And I'm telling you, you got to go get 3 to 4 office alignment
1:55:58
to go out here and you got to win eight games.
1:56:00
You got to put that much money. To put that much money as you're
1:56:05
putting in that program. You got to win 8 to 9 games.
1:56:08
You got to tally. There was a yeah, there was a
1:56:12
text message you dropped. That that had the.
1:56:15
The run it. Backs, you need to see hey, hey,
1:56:17
hey, hey. I ain't going to drop no names.
1:56:19
I'm just saying I'm not dropping.
1:56:21
No names, but I know I. Know the names that Tally needs
1:56:24
to see before you feel feel like something.
1:56:27
Noah Chamber. Come on back, baby.
1:56:32
Yeah. Anybody from the DMV?
1:56:35
Gonzaga. Demand any of those guys need
1:56:38
the Keelan Adams run it back stat.
1:56:41
Where's Emmett Laws at? We he was.
1:56:43
He. I mean, he, it seemed like he
1:56:45
did some stuff for us. And we never seen him again.
1:56:48
Man, I love Emmett, I like seeing him.
1:56:51
I like to see him. Yeah.
1:56:55
Any kid that takes the train 5. Hours a day.
1:56:57
Just to go to a better. School to make it out.
1:56:59
Has. He built different, no doubt.
1:57:02
No doubt that's like 30 for. 30s eventually like in the NFL.
1:57:08
And this is how we started. Like 100% what happened to him.
1:57:13
I know it's a lot. Well, South Carolina.
1:57:17
Wasn't worth the fuck. Is #1.
1:57:20
So we thought South Carolina. Was a much better team than they
1:57:22
was. So when you started going into
1:57:25
the season and then we looked like we were OK and then wheels
1:57:29
fell off and then the coach gets fired, A lot of different things
1:57:32
happened. You know, some kids, I mean, we,
1:57:35
we're not going to say some kids didn't say some kids because
1:57:38
like, you know, I need to hold off and see who's coming here.
1:57:42
Let me see what's going on before I go out here and waste
1:57:45
my eligible, you know, waste my eligibility.
1:57:48
So I think stuff like that kind of happen.
1:57:54
Yeah. Give me 4 starting.
1:57:55
Offensive lineman in the portal and a couple death pieces.
1:58:01
Yeah, I think that that's you got to start building in the
1:58:03
trenches. Whether it's running backs or
1:58:04
whether it's. Portal like that, when you look
1:58:08
at the way winning teams win consistently is that they were
1:58:13
consistently good at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the
1:58:16
football. If you spend 5 to $6 million on
1:58:19
a starting offensive line in the portal, that's the best 5:00 to.
1:58:21
$6 million you spend it. No, no, no.
1:58:26
You said offensive line put 5 to 6 billion.
1:58:28
Dollars on both. Sides of the lines you spend 4
1:58:31
million on the D line. In the offensive line, you.
1:58:35
Will be significantly. Better from jump because you
1:58:39
need 2 edges and two DTS regardless of the running backs,
1:58:42
Yeah. We need some.
1:58:44
Demons on. The.
1:58:45
On the defensive end side, go get me, go.
1:58:48
Get Me 99 from Penn State. Don't get.
1:58:53
Him, 99, from Penn. State you.
1:58:56
Ain't got to look it up. He.
1:58:57
Said say the name, so I don't. Get him.
1:59:01
Are we getting Hollywood? Smothers.
1:59:03
I saw that we're we're trying to get Hollywood Smothers.
1:59:06
Like you're kidding me. I was shocked.
1:59:11
I'm telling. You I don't need a Hollywood.
1:59:13
Smothers agreed. That's why I'm shocked.
1:59:15
I don't understand. I need 6 months.
1:59:18
Jeffrey Overson. Junior on a rehab.
1:59:22
Hollywood's mothers line is what we need, not.
1:59:26
I don't, I don't think. I don't think you need more.
1:59:29
Running back depth, I'm going to be honest.
1:59:31
With you, if you keep the running backs you have now and
1:59:35
I'm talking about a Jeremiah. Kony.
1:59:38
I'm talking about, I'm talking about a shoot.
1:59:43
You keep, you keep. You keep, Mason.
1:59:46
You keep, Mason, you keep. You keep.
1:59:49
Hard and Messiah. And.
1:59:54
With Seldon. And you keep Seldon as a.
1:59:56
Hybrid, you're fine. I think the.
1:59:58
Biggest time you want to spend your money is on your offensive
2:00:00
line. You bring another, bring
2:00:02
another. Two tight ends.
2:00:05
And. A QB.
2:00:07
And a corner and your and. Your QB.
2:00:09
We need 3 QBs right? I mean, we got a.
2:00:12
Bring it in you. You need 2.
2:00:15
My my my suggestion is you need 2.
2:00:18
You need 2 because you got two true freshmen that's going to be
2:00:21
red shirt freshman this year. Then you got.
2:00:22
Hume coming in so. If you get to your third
2:00:25
quarterback, you fucked anyway, so it ain't fucking paying.
2:00:28
Money for that? Well, you fucked.
2:00:29
Anyway, you're done. You're done.
2:00:32
You're done. I mean shit.
2:00:35
They were three and nine guys with our QB.
2:00:37
One. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
2:00:39
So like you break in two, you got to bring in two but.
2:00:43
Beyond. That you keep the two guys that
2:00:45
you got on the roster and like I said, because if you get to QB
2:00:48
three, you fucked in that season anyway.
2:00:51
I don't think people really understand.
2:00:53
People don't really understand. The talent difference.
2:00:56
That you're going to see with James Franklin being there
2:00:58
number one and #2 the team difference that you have when
2:01:03
your when your trenches look better.
2:01:05
Our offensive line has been in disarray for a long time.
2:01:09
Even when our offensive line was good in the last couple of
2:01:12
years, it's been in disarray. So when we get a consistent
2:01:16
offensive line that we're going to trot the same guys out to go
2:01:20
play unless somebody gets hurt that you don't want, but it has
2:01:23
happened, you know what I'm saying?
2:01:25
If you can trot the same guys out and you get some continuity
2:01:28
on the line, you're going to see a lot better offense no matter
2:01:31
who's back there. But you got to get a quarterback
2:01:34
that can run the system that you have.
2:01:37
You know, we just didn't we we were just, we've been in, we've
2:01:41
been just in flux for probably about three years.
2:01:44
So you want to get Tori and Gray back?
2:01:48
They're trying. Going to Florida, I saw him.
2:01:50
Is he going to? Florida or no staying?
2:01:53
In South Carolina, I mean staying.
2:01:54
By. The way.
2:01:57
That is a brave move by Tori and Gray, because Devil.
2:02:00
Dog, you're right. He probably should leave there
2:02:03
because I'm sorry, I don't. Yeah, Shane, he's a freaking
2:02:07
hokey. Yeah, but he's getting a whole
2:02:09
$1,000,000. He's making his money.
2:02:11
This. Year and if he has to move it
2:02:12
he's. Shane got a lot of them not to
2:02:14
that team, so Shane was there. With him, that's the whole
2:02:19
thing. Doesn't have to move his.
2:02:20
Family doesn't have. To do anything, play the loyalty
2:02:22
card too. I think he's I that's.
2:02:24
What I why, why, Why uproot everything?
2:02:27
So I've got a flag. I've got a flag right here.
2:02:33
That's that's. That's that's signed.
2:02:35
By Torian Gray There's a flag over.
2:02:39
Here it's signed by Torian. Gray, He's a.
2:02:42
Hokey. He's been here.
2:02:45
His. His.
2:02:45
Family's his. Family moved over here.
2:02:48
Yeah, but his family right now is in South Carolina, so he's
2:02:50
probably showing me two. Like give.
2:02:52
Me a year. Let me see who you're working
2:02:54
with. Oh yeah, it's 4 hours, 5 hours
2:02:56
behind the scenes. He has Sir, behind the scenes, a
2:03:00
lot of the stuff that these cultures say that.
2:03:02
These cultures. Do man you?
2:03:04
Know what I'm saying? Like Shane has said a lot.
2:03:10
Of stuff about Virginia. Tech, some of the stuff he's
2:03:12
right, but some of the stuff he can't come back from.
2:03:15
You know what I'm saying, what he said, the parents, what he
2:03:17
said, the players, what he said. The schools in Virginia, Toy and
2:03:21
Gray has been the same way. They've had to negatively
2:03:23
recruit against Virginia Tech for a long time.
2:03:27
So you can't just automatically hit a switch and go, you know,
2:03:30
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm a hokey. I'm coming back.
2:03:31
Like sometimes you build it in and and sometimes you feel like
2:03:35
you were done wrong by a place. So you want?
2:03:37
To prove them wrong. So I kind of feel like that's
2:03:40
what it is with some of the people reached out who we've
2:03:42
kind of reached, who we've kind of talking shit.
2:03:45
You're going to talk. I kind of Freeman.
2:03:49
Look if Marcus Freeman takes his.
2:03:50
Giants job. I want that cornerback.
2:03:52
Coach from Notre Dame, if we. Can get.
2:03:54
Them. Yeah.
2:03:56
Wow. He did that Giants job now at
2:04:01
this point he could have taken. It weeks ago right if he if.
2:04:04
Freeman take if Freeman takes the Giants.
2:04:08
Job we you can have three reddishes in Virginia Tech and
2:04:16
and the DB coach back. I mean, it's it's a lot of
2:04:19
moving parts, man. It's a lot of moving parts going
2:04:22
on. I'll take two reddishes.
2:04:27
Listen first. I know.
2:04:28
But the other one, I want the other Reg.
2:04:32
He wants the other Reg. And hit listen.
2:04:35
I'll. Take Joseph.
2:04:36
I'll take. I'll take.
2:04:38
Any seven O 4 kid I can get because I I vouch for every
2:04:43
seven O 4 kid that comes out because they definitely
2:04:47
different olds. Seven O 4 / 7 five seven for a
2:04:51
long time. No, no, no.
2:04:52
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Chris, I'm no bring it in.
2:05:00
Don't do. That I love.
2:05:01
Myself. God.
2:05:03
It's not that I don't. Love them.
2:05:04
It's not that I don't love them. It's not it's not an anti love.
2:05:07
I just, and I'm sorry, I've had too many beers, 7 to 3, two.
2:05:11
I like that too, but I'm just staying.
2:05:15
I don't know. You go.
2:05:16
I am. I am biased to Independence High
2:05:19
School kids. I am.
2:05:20
Biased to West Charlotte kids. I am biased to north Mecklenburg
2:05:24
kids. Seven O 4 kids are absolutely
2:05:27
different. So about 336 baby.
2:05:30
Hey, I'm just I'm just saying right now you just play it by
2:05:34
you let you let it flow out the way it needs to.
2:05:37
But if I can keep Q radish and he knows how I feel about him
2:05:42
and we talk about it, personally, I want him to stay.
2:05:45
And if his brother can come, I'm definitely excited about that as
2:05:49
well. So it is, Hey, I'm not biased.
2:05:51
I'm not biased on on on Virginia, on Virginia.
2:05:55
Tech on Virginia football players.
2:05:58
But we're not producing football players these days.
2:06:03
It's different. If we're not, we're just not.
2:06:11
Yeah, I. Agree.
2:06:13
I agree, Tyler, I agree. We get the ones.
2:06:16
That produce. We we got to start getting four
2:06:18
in the top. 10 every year. Every year.
2:06:21
I agree. I agree. 4IN Mineral.
2:06:26
The running back in Mineral. Should be.
2:06:28
Coming down here. Hey, hey, listen, Savion.
2:06:34
Savion Hitter is an absolute Sunday guy.
2:06:37
I agree. You should be coming down here.
2:06:40
I mean, listen, sometimes it's too.
2:06:42
Close to home savior Travis. Johnson Travis Johnson has an
2:06:47
opportunity to be a Sunday guy. We need to have a.
2:06:54
Conversation. About being better in the 804.
2:06:57
Because because what's going on is that there's about 3 kids in
2:07:00
the 804 that. In the Virginia Top. 10 every
2:07:03
year and we are maybe hitting on one of them, usually not hitting
2:07:07
on on them. They got a couple that are
2:07:09
going, they got a couple that are going up to the street, up
2:07:13
from one of the road. And I'm not a.
2:07:15
Big. Fan I saw Bull Richardson play 3
2:07:17
times this year. I wanted Bull.
2:07:19
Richardson. And Virginia Tech, we need to
2:07:21
start tapping into Verona a little bit better because Verona
2:07:24
historically has not been good. They always been at UVA school.
2:07:28
Yeah, but we got, we got, we got to make some inroads, man.
2:07:30
We got to make some inroads the. Thing is, is Virginia, like I
2:07:35
feel like me being in Alabama and me.
2:07:37
Listening to a lot. Of Virginia people, y'all can
2:07:39
get on there if you want to. Like I feel like y'all are a
2:07:42
little spoiled because a lot of people they say you know these
2:07:45
kids should be playing from Virginia Tech.
2:07:47
This is home and this is where they should be playing in front
2:07:49
of their families. Blacksburg is a weird ass place.
2:07:52
Like I can get the Blacksburg quicker than some people in
2:07:55
Virginia that can get the Blacksburg.
2:07:57
This is 7 hours, 6 hours, 5 hours for some of these kids to
2:08:00
go to the Blacksburg place. They can go to UVAI mean they
2:08:04
can go to UNC. And be.
2:08:06
Closer. To home than they can Virginia
2:08:08
Tech. So you can't say like Virginia
2:08:10
should be home to Virginia kids. You have to make it home.
2:08:14
You got to make it home and you got to put the product on the
2:08:16
video and we have that. Let me get this out though.
2:08:20
You got to get this out you. Got to put people in the league.
2:08:23
And you got to put them in the league where they Rep Virginia
2:08:25
Tech like we had it. You don't have you don't have
2:08:30
Jay Lane. Jay Lane is.
2:08:31
A Virginia Tech guy. But you don't have.
2:08:33
Jay Lane just walking to Virginia Tech line right now,
2:08:37
coming back to the games and doing all of that stuff.
2:08:39
And when they looked at it, they was like, what was the team?
2:08:42
You know? You know what I'm saying?
2:08:43
We got to get back to the we're putting people in the league and
2:08:47
then they're looking at Virginia Tech like we know what.
2:08:49
We're getting. When this person comes like Penn
2:08:52
State, I can't. I can't say that.
2:08:54
So when Penn State guys go to the league, they knew what
2:08:57
they're getting. Out of them, they know what
2:08:58
they're getting out of Tyler. Warren, they know what they're
2:09:00
getting out of thank Quan Barkley.
2:09:01
You know, all of the lineman that's come from Penn State,
2:09:04
they everybody knows what they're getting.
2:09:06
When we start getting back to that, then you open up the door
2:09:09
and people go walk through. I mean, you start Brett probably
2:09:12
started it because yeah, that's the way.
2:09:14
Yeah. Yeah, that's the way I thought.
2:09:17
You know, Chance Niggins or Keelan.
2:09:19
Adams was going to Virginia Tech.
2:09:21
Until Brett Price started pulling kids like that.
2:09:23
I agree. Hey, Dave, Dave, do me a favor.
2:09:26
I fucking agree. Hey.
2:09:28
Dave, listen to me. Where?
2:09:29
Are you listening to us at? What?
2:09:32
App, YouTube or somewhere else? Or it's YouTube.
2:09:40
Like mute your. YouTube in the background
2:09:42
because you can hear. Us Live.
2:09:43
We're getting feedback. From.
2:09:44
You so mute the YouTube you'll you'll still hear us on stream
2:09:48
yard. You'll be good.
2:09:51
So no, no, no. But that's the point though
2:09:54
that. That you made tally is perfect.
2:09:57
The reason we used to. Oh, he left.
2:09:58
He need leave. No, come back.
2:10:00
Come back. I think you.
2:10:01
Pressed the wrong button. I think you pressed the wrong
2:10:02
button. Hit the wrong button, tally is.
2:10:04
Right tally is 100. Percent that Woodford gets that
2:10:07
for you man. The whole thing is, why did we?
2:10:11
Get them back in the day, Phil. We were fucking.
2:10:13
Winning 10 games, we were. Fucking top ten, bro.
2:10:15
We were winning. We had, we had an attitude like
2:10:18
we, we were Virginia Tech. It was different.
2:10:19
It was just. Different.
2:10:20
It's different. It was exactly, it was
2:10:22
different, it was different, it was different.
2:10:26
Like I can't explain it any other way than it was just
2:10:29
different. The attitude was different.
2:10:31
The like, you go back in some of those games, we were knocking
2:10:34
motherfuckers out and like, let's hey, we would have had so
2:10:39
many people ejected, we would have been able to field a.
2:10:42
Team. Somewhere let me say this.
2:10:44
Right. Let me, let me get this, James.
2:10:48
Franklin said it best. When he said it to the players,
2:10:51
Virginia Tech was a sexy team. They were taking names and
2:10:55
whipping ass and that's what we got to get back to.
2:10:59
I'm telling you without question, that's what they going
2:11:03
to get back to. That's what we need, whipping
2:11:05
ass and and that will bring everything.
2:11:09
That they. Want all the money we talked
2:11:11
about this $20 million gift that was gotten this money they talk
2:11:16
about and that's going to get there is a.
2:11:19
Faction. Of this fan base I'm I'm an
2:11:22
outsider just recently here there's a faction this fan base
2:11:27
that didn't like the way that Frank got sent out of here
2:11:31
because they he to them he built it he should maybe go out the
2:11:36
same way Jay Joe Paul went out the same way Bear Bryant went
2:11:40
out he should he didn't get that opportunity and they held their
2:11:44
money back Franklin gives them the cachet I'm telling you the
2:11:49
reason why Pryor is out because they were not going to give him
2:11:52
that money to be able to do the different things he need to be
2:11:55
able to do They were willing to give that to Franklin because he
2:11:58
had the cachet well he's a professional he's a professional
2:12:01
like he's a professional no, no, he no that's.
2:12:05
It looks like compared to what we did have, he's.
2:12:07
A straight professor? No, I think he he.
2:12:09
He's he's had enough time on task at the.
2:12:12
Job See, I don't want to take away from Brent Private.
2:12:16
He wasn't professional. He had enough time on task on
2:12:19
the job to be able to decipher let me let my coordinators do
2:12:24
what they need to do and I do my part and get us to the next
2:12:28
level. His problem was he was fighting
2:12:31
giants like Ohio State, Michigan to get to that next step.
2:12:36
He ain't got those giants over here.
2:12:38
He might have a he might have a Clemson, he might have a Florida
2:12:41
State and he might have a Miami. But he can, he can situate and
2:12:46
he can maneuver around that nine games is your, is your, is your,
2:12:50
is your floor 9 games is your floor 9 games, nine games of
2:12:56
money. We'll 4 the fuck 9 games we
2:13:00
weren't in the 6th we we've learned in Blacksburg down.
2:13:06
But we know. Our.
2:13:07
Schedule. We don't.
2:13:10
We know who we're playing, but we don't know our schedule.
2:13:12
Yet I mean God. Damn, we will.
2:13:15
Literally. I mean dude, 9 games we'll burn.
2:13:18
Hey, listen, Tony Elliott got a contract extension off.
2:13:21
Of 10 games and. What he did you, you got a
2:13:25
lifetime contract. That who, man?
2:13:27
You turn around. We get to Charlotte this year
2:13:30
when when we get to Charlotte this.
2:13:31
Year. We're at the Midnight Bar, we're
2:13:34
at the Midnight Cafe. I'm going to put some money on
2:13:36
me when me, Dan and whoever else.
2:13:40
Assassin show up at the Midnight Cafe in Charlotte.
2:13:43
If we make the match, if we make the if we make Charlotte you.
2:13:48
You and me, we will be there together.
2:13:53
I'm always. Down to go home let's.
2:13:57
Go you think about this though for.
2:13:59
Real for real let. Me say this so.
2:14:02
Feel I know you're pretty involved with Virginia Tech
2:14:05
sports. And.
2:14:07
I don't know your pockets, I don't know how much you give and
2:14:09
all of that, but I give a little bit, right?
2:14:13
I have give and and I show up to shit.
2:14:16
You know, I didn't show up to anything this year.
2:14:19
I didn't give anything this year because I wasn't invested in the
2:14:22
program we went to. We went to Atlanta twice, which
2:14:27
is 3 hours away from me and everybody was like talent, I
2:14:30
don't want to see you in Atlanta.
2:14:31
I was like, no, you're not. I'm not going to Atlanta.
2:14:33
Why would I go and waste my money and time?
2:14:35
Because I knew I knew what this year was right.
2:14:38
So with that being said, I'm not saying it's all about money, but
2:14:44
think about what you as a donor feel with just what we have so
2:14:50
far. We ain't even done nothing yet.
2:14:54
And and I'm already like. Let me go ahead.
2:14:57
And get my 1 here, almost $50 here.
2:15:00
Let me go ahead and get ready for the spring game, right?
2:15:02
Let me go ahead and contribute, think about what's going to
2:15:05
happen when we go out here and then this portal comes through
2:15:10
because he he did this in the he did this in the high school
2:15:14
ranks. He's going to go get some portal
2:15:16
guys. And then he's putting together a
2:15:18
really good staff. I said really good staff.
2:15:21
Let's wait next to, but he's putting together a solid staff,
2:15:23
right? OK, so wait, wait, aside from
2:15:28
like personally and like. Aside from his like main bosses
2:15:33
of offensive and defensive coordinator, I feel great about
2:15:37
everybody below that. Everybody below that I'm
2:15:40
confident in Brent Pryor. You know how I feel about him.
2:15:44
But wait, you know how I feel about Brent Pryor and I don't
2:15:46
know about Tyler Bowen AI version yet, but I'm going to
2:15:51
need to see because they are literally like the AI original
2:15:56
version three years ago of each other by pitcher.
2:16:00
Like they are like that is not Tyler Bowen.
2:16:02
That is Ty the other guy, Ty, Hallie like that.
2:16:06
Sorry, I can't keep shit together right now.
2:16:08
Just thinking about it. If you all can put them
2:16:12
together, it's not right. Like something's wrong,
2:16:15
something's not right. But I agree with us.
2:16:18
I agree. I agree, although there was the
2:16:21
story that he didn't want Andy. Kolenecki.
2:16:23
Two years ago, he wanted Ty to be his OC.
2:16:26
Couldn't have told him to shave his fucking beard though.
2:16:28
Sweet. That didn't look like our last
2:16:30
guy. Come on man, shave your beard.
2:16:33
Sorry, do a good team. Do a man look man?
2:16:36
We're not shitting. We're not shitting on beards.
2:16:38
Phil, we're not shitting on beards.
2:16:39
Let's not shit on beards. Some of us work really hard.
2:16:44
Sacrifice over there. You chose to mute yourself.
2:16:50
Phil, I tried to unmute you minute.
2:16:54
Mute. Moving around the horn at the.
2:16:58
Party, right? Now.
2:17:01
I don't know if that's. Behind the horn thing.
2:17:02
I'm doing it myself. Hey.
2:17:06
I got AI, got a quick question before we go for it.
2:17:09
Did did Jeremy? Decide to come and show up
2:17:11
tonight or no So Jeremy had was the last minute tap out his
2:17:16
wife. Is Uber, He's got a very
2:17:18
pregnant wife and he had the had the last minute tap out.
2:17:22
I was, I was, I was very distraught.
2:17:24
But he's like, I'm going to be back next year.
2:17:26
Full. Force I have.
2:17:28
I have missed going there. I have missed going to.
2:17:32
There going to pharmacy three times going to games man I just
2:17:36
want to go in there and get that dude a hug during game before
2:17:40
game day but I want to make sure I.
2:17:42
Get to the cheer and get my dude.
2:17:44
A hug I. Love that man.
2:17:45
He is. He is like one of the one of the
2:17:47
best things I've lived there, man.
2:17:50
He'll. Give you give you the shirt off
2:17:51
his back, he'll. He'll, He'll do.
2:17:53
Anything man, he's a good dude man.
2:17:55
Joe Jeremy counts. Jeremy Counts saved my kids
2:17:58
life. Literally and the.
2:18:01
Crazy thing is. Me and Brian when we started.
2:18:04
Talking to him, he came. Sponsoring everything.
2:18:06
We started chatting with him. He married a girl that was from
2:18:10
our hometown. She was in high school when
2:18:12
Brian was high school and everybody's like big ass world
2:18:17
ain't a big ass world. It's a small ass world.
2:18:20
That was crazy because I'm like, Brian, did you know her?
2:18:23
The world's tiny. I mean, then we found.
2:18:24
Out, Sheldon. His, his family got a got got a
2:18:28
spot up in in Lexington. No Vernon, Vernon Hill.
2:18:33
Vernon Hill. He's got a spot in Vernon Hill.
2:18:35
His dad went, I think something with BMI.
2:18:38
Shelton went to BMI for two years or something.
2:18:41
Where the hell is Sheldon tonight?
2:18:44
The show went to. His dad went to.
2:18:45
BMI his dad. Went to BMI, Dad went.
2:18:48
To BMI and I'm then it's over. He should have given.
2:18:50
Anxiety Medicine. At a.
2:18:52
Discount for tech. Fans for the last fucking five
2:18:56
years, man. You know what?
2:18:58
The My favorite part about having Jeremy on is.
2:19:00
I get. I get.
2:19:01
I get to do. The he pays the bills, he fills
2:19:04
the pills like sign on me. Do you know why I went to BMI?
2:19:08
Why is that? Because.
2:19:11
I got rejected by. Virginia Tech.
2:19:17
Certainly. My dad's parents.
2:19:22
My dad's family went to V, went to Virginia Tech and I was like
2:19:26
all right, fuck y'all, I'm going to VMI and I can feel my
2:19:29
grandfather rolling the grave as I went to VMI.
2:19:35
They got accepted Virginia Tech. When you were at VMI, did you
2:19:39
play Virginia Tech? Thanksgiving.
2:19:43
Ever. No.
2:19:45
When am I that old? Well, I looked at old.
2:19:47
The end. Of the.
2:19:48
Season. Well, I looked at old.
2:19:51
Well, I can't tell the Internet. 'S it's fuzzy.
2:19:53
I'm on that one. They said the.
2:19:55
Internet is hammered. Phil and Eric are about the.
2:19:59
Same number of drinks deep I think.
2:20:03
What year? I went in 9790. 8.
2:20:09
OK. All right.
2:20:12
So I'm about I'm. I'm a little older than.
2:20:15
Y'all than most of the. Guys here, yeah, not, not too
2:20:19
much older than us. You got about seven years on us
2:20:22
in fucking. Drunken no wait 9795 was drunken
2:20:26
mother and 97 was. The the the Orange Bowl, we got
2:20:29
our ass handed over us in Nebraska.
2:20:32
Well, we beat Miami that year because I was at BMI and we.
2:20:36
Beat them 16 nothing after going O and two you know I knew we
2:20:40
were fucked in that. Orange Bowl against Nebraska.
2:20:43
I was there. It was called Joe Robbie
2:20:44
Stadium. The tech Busters rolled through.
2:20:47
There was two of them. Whoo go Hokies, let's go 2
2:20:50
buses. The Nebraska buses roll by.
2:20:52
There were five of them. The entire sideline was full of
2:20:57
Nebraska corn fed, white ass, big ass motherfuckers that if
2:21:02
they were in this world, in NIL world would have been dispersed
2:21:07
making a million and a half dollars each across the fucking
2:21:11
country all over. They would have been making
2:21:14
money. But no, they were walk ONS
2:21:16
because they decided I don't want to be a backup player
2:21:20
Michigan. I want to walk on at Nebraska
2:21:24
because it's fucking Nebraska. It's the stupidest shit ever.
2:21:28
Fuck, it's the dumbest shit ever.
2:21:30
And and this is the last thing. All right, I'm going to mute
2:21:33
myself again. We have a running back on our
2:21:37
team. I forgot his name but he may or
2:21:39
may not have been accused of rape and he was not.
2:21:43
But he was at the Game 5 rows in front of me on the corner of.
2:21:47
Joe Rivie Stadium. We drove to Miami mute for one
2:21:50
minute. Oh.
2:22:00
God, wow. Oh God, I love you guys.
2:22:07
I'm going to walk on to Nebraska.
2:22:09
Hey. Hey, you know.
2:22:10
What? Hey, Lavar, liked that one.
2:22:14
I like. That I like that we're trying to
2:22:15
get Chris. Back on here.
2:22:16
He's just spinning here. He's spinning.
2:22:18
He got Tally in her now. Right now.
2:22:20
Nebraska had a bunch of Nebraska had a bunch of Lassiters from
2:22:23
the. Program on.
2:22:24
That on that. Team.
2:22:26
Hey, yes, I met I met Ron and Tally.
2:22:31
And Dan and Vanderbilt. Oh, sure.
2:22:36
Yes, Sir, It was a good time. It was a good time until it.
2:22:38
Wasn't I got I got a sunburn and a broken heart in.
2:22:43
That in that stadium. Look at the 9 pieces and a
2:22:49
liver. Yeah.
2:22:51
My heart grew. Like the Grinches and then was
2:22:54
ripped out of my body and. Bit.
2:22:56
In 2, but I met Tally. I met Tally at the Grievous
2:23:02
basket. Grievous.
2:23:03
Baskets Minute, minute, minute, minute time out.
2:23:07
Fuck Grievous. I met Tally.
2:23:09
I met Tally at the Purdue game. Whoa, you.
2:23:12
Met. How did we not meet you for the
2:23:14
game? Well, I.
2:23:16
Didn't meet him, but he came down.
2:23:19
Came down. He came down in the South end.
2:23:21
Zone. He came down in the South end
2:23:23
zone with nothing but an orange on.
2:23:26
I was like. Damn it, that's.
2:23:27
Talent. My wife is like.
2:23:32
How do all these people? Know you when we go.
2:23:34
Places I'm like I look a little bit different.
2:23:38
Than those people because you're a podcast guy.
2:23:40
Oh. Shit.
2:23:45
Man, I'm. Excited about the spring game is
2:23:47
everybody. Going I'll be at the spring.
2:23:49
Game I'm going to be there with Belle Draw.
2:23:53
Are we playing? Are we?
2:23:54
Playing VMI? I'll do that.
2:23:56
We should play VMI. At the Spring game, yeah, we
2:23:58
should play VMI. Let's just.
2:24:00
Move VMI out. Of the spring.
2:24:02
There we go. That's what needs to.
2:24:03
Happen little warm. Up little.
2:24:05
Warm up you talk about. We all talked.
2:24:06
About the bowl games earlier, it's like bowl games are a joke
2:24:10
now. They're now the discussion is
2:24:12
are they going to move bowl games to the beginning of the
2:24:14
season? That Cal Hawaii game was
2:24:17
literally an MMA fight like it was.
2:24:20
Like I hate you. You hate.
2:24:23
You won't schedule me. I won't schedule you.
2:24:26
Damn it, I hate. You like it was a lot of.
2:24:29
Punching going on in that. Game, it was great.
2:24:31
How would the logistics work if you moved the ball game to the
2:24:34
beginning of the year? Well, how many?
2:24:36
How many? Damn.
2:24:37
Games are they put off site anyway?
2:24:40
But I mean like, no, I mean like with deciding who plays in them.
2:24:44
I think it's just what did all go wrong with DCS I think.
2:24:48
It's just. All right, because like.
2:24:50
If you move into the beginning, I mean literally.
2:24:52
There are three games on back-to-back to back like
2:24:55
there's nothing on today. Like what are you going to
2:24:58
watch? What are you going to watch
2:24:59
Christmas in Connecticut on the Hallmark Channel for the third
2:25:02
time, Like, oh, you're going to watch.
2:25:03
You're going to watch Western Kentucky.
2:25:06
Place Western Michigan in the. Chicken Bowl.
2:25:09
While you camera bearding. Yeah.
2:25:11
While your wife yells at you for not.
2:25:14
Cleaning up the Christmas shit quicker.
2:25:16
Like. Literally that's the bowl full
2:25:18
season. That is the ball season.
2:25:20
It's great. Kind of ridiculous.
2:25:24
I don't know. What do you think?
2:25:25
I don't know how you do it in the beginning.
2:25:26
I think that's a great plan in the beginning.
2:25:28
Of the season I do. I think that's awesome.
2:25:30
But like you can't tell people the games don't count.
2:25:36
You can't can't tell that anymore.
2:25:38
I got a fake out this. Isn't real.
2:25:39
It's like. Got the idea I'm.
2:25:42
Hammering, I got the. Idea.
2:25:43
Hold on everybody, be quiet. I got the idea.
2:25:45
No. Every season, OK, everybody
2:25:48
pitches about how everybody. Pitches about how?
2:25:52
Well, we don't get. To hit anybody until the 1st
2:25:54
week of the season. Well, mother fucker, we're going
2:25:56
to put this two weeks before the 1st week of the season.
2:25:59
Go out and hit somebody in Orlando.
2:26:00
I don't know, we're going to go tear the ACL from the council.
2:26:06
Yeah, hold on. Hold.
2:26:07
On but the FBT goes back to the NFL.
2:26:10
Because a lot of the big. Guys played in the NFL.
2:26:12
Pre season they even alright so but but that's weird because
2:26:16
like the team that earned the bowl isn't the team playing in
2:26:20
the bowl don't matter. It's ratings, it's TD.
2:26:23
I get that, but like, it's still funky to be man.
2:26:27
What if? We still I'm pretty sure drones
2:26:35
would have sat out and for preparation.
2:26:37
For the, for the, for the draft. What if?
2:26:41
What if we let the BCS decide the 12 team playoff?
2:26:44
Yeah, I'm with that, the BCS, I would much prefer that.
2:26:49
Selection committee because. The problem with the BCS.
2:26:52
Wasn't that they got it wrong consistently is that there
2:26:55
wasn't enough teams for them to get it right because they were
2:26:58
only picking 2. If UVA had won, would Miami have
2:27:01
still? Been in.
2:27:03
Got the better have been. Yes, they would have gotten more
2:27:06
DML better have been UVA fucked up again.
2:27:09
Yeah, and. And and.
2:27:10
So. And and we we could even build.
2:27:12
Automatic bids. Into that you can even build
2:27:15
automatic bids into that if you want to keep automatic bids game
2:27:18
this year if you looked at it would have been perfect.
2:27:20
Hey, I just want to take I'll take Texas. 1st or no Georgia
2:27:26
versus Vanderbilt, man. Georgia, who did not play each
2:27:30
other this year. I'll take that.
2:27:32
All. Fucking day over the bullshit
2:27:35
games that played during the NFL game in my lifetime.
2:27:39
I just want Virginia Tech to play at the Rose Bowl one time.
2:27:42
I just. Want to?
2:27:43
See Virginia Tech. That is the hey, he's.
2:27:47
Going to college, that's going to.
2:27:49
Be the. I'll say this, it's not if.
2:27:53
Hopefully when that happens, that's going to be the crushing
2:27:56
of the credit cards. We're going to college.
2:27:59
Me and Phil won't care what I want to say.
2:28:01
We'll just play out together. You.
2:28:02
Know when? That'll happen.
2:28:03
That'll be the one. Time there's fucking preseason.
2:28:05
Bowl games, we'll be. Playing in the fucking.
2:28:07
Poinsettia Bowl in the fucking Rose Bowl.
2:28:11
I'm in. I'm in playing against.
2:28:14
Aaron Rodgers. I'm definitely going to Dallas
2:28:18
this year. As hell yeah I want to go to
2:28:20
Dallas for. Basketball.
2:28:21
Soon that's the all that's best who's going to college I.
2:28:24
Can go to shit No I Dallas like the.
2:28:28
Road to look like. If I was retired or just
2:28:31
retired, the road trips would be fucking epic.
2:28:34
Oh bam epic. I'm not retired and I'm going to
2:28:37
Cali. Let's go.
2:28:39
Hey. Eric said Hey Cali, let's go
2:28:42
baby. One flight.
2:28:44
That's what the answer. So I don't know, fight back.
2:28:49
I don't know, we got. A big basketball.
2:28:51
Game coming up soon. It's going to define our.
2:28:54
I'm going to. Be there.
2:28:54
Literally, I'm going. To say you right now, it will
2:28:57
literally define. Our entire.
2:28:59
Season how we do in that game you going to be playing in that
2:29:03
game I've seen I'm going I'm going to be I'm going to be in
2:29:12
the castle guard and UV tech to. Be Eva fucking bullshit.
2:29:18
Our students aren't there. Let's go How does that happen?
2:29:22
It's a huge game. It's the.
2:29:24
Biggest, it's even. Blacksburg, huh?
2:29:25
It's a big game. Stupidity go about a good
2:29:28
schedule. Nowadays is that.
2:29:30
Game. Is.
2:29:32
Darren fucking no students are there.
2:29:36
We get a trade off though. The last game of the season is
2:29:38
at UVA and they don't have their students.
2:29:40
Here, because it's spring break, they'll all be at Kenny
2:29:43
Punkport. Kenny Punkport up in Maine.
2:29:47
I'll be at Napa Napa. I'm drinking Zema.
2:29:52
Zema. They got good Zema.
2:29:53
Now, oh man, always. Is.
2:29:58
Entertaining. I think that's a.
2:30:00
Great idea about state of the program.
2:30:02
I think you need to do a state of the program after the spring.
2:30:04
Game honestly, because, like, nobody knows how we know good
2:30:09
about right now. Yeah, we, we, we.
2:30:11
Do a little bit of a We do a little bit.
2:30:13
Of pull back in after we we do the spring.
2:30:15
Game we do. We do a live post game at Maroon
2:30:19
Door and we yell fuck. We yeah, we, no, we don't yell
2:30:23
fuck. Brian yells.
2:30:24
Fuck, apparently. And then Brian, Brian's wife,
2:30:27
puts a little note up that says you're saying fuck a lot.
2:30:31
He says fuck a lot. It's not going to say fuck a
2:30:35
lot, say fuck a lot at the maroon door.
2:30:38
With like no you. Say fuck a lot.
2:30:40
Young children sitting in the yard.
2:30:42
I play fuck with you on Thursday nights.
2:30:44
You say fuck a lot. Again.
2:30:47
But that's not. A problem there, That's not a
2:30:49
problem. There at the maroon.
2:30:51
Door at 3:45 Hey, this is what you get when you get.
2:30:55
This is what you get when you get 2.
2:30:58
Halifax guys in the same room. It is.
2:31:02
Yeah, yeah, pretty much, pretty much.
2:31:05
Man 30 plus. Years, Eric, you don't
2:31:07
understand. 30. Plus years of this, it's how
2:31:11
long we've known each other, right?
2:31:12
I've always said fuck. I've always.
2:31:16
Said fuck, hey, I'm. I know we give.
2:31:18
We're going to have to get ready.
2:31:19
To. Wrap it up.
2:31:19
I'm going to throw this out. I'm going to start with Curtis.
2:31:22
See what he got to say. Good portal.
2:31:26
Portal is going to open up. January.
2:31:28
The second, OK. And you got, I'm going to say
2:31:33
you got $5,000,000 to spend. I know we got more than that as
2:31:36
a team, but they giving Curtis $5,000,000 to spend.
2:31:39
What are you going to take that 5 million and spend it on?
2:31:43
I'm going to spend it on the following five items.
2:31:46
Give them $1,000,000. Each.
2:31:48
Best left tackle Find me the best 2 defensive ends.
2:31:55
I want 1D tackle and. Then I'll take a guard.
2:32:00
Because I do believe. Somebody like Johnny Garrett
2:32:03
can. Hold down the right tackle spot.
2:32:06
That's my, that's my spots because you got you got to spend
2:32:09
more than a million on. Them on the.
2:32:11
Defensive ends, but I I. Understand where you're going.
2:32:13
Well, I think I can balance it regarding you D tackle, the D
2:32:17
tackle in there. So that's what I'm asking.
2:32:21
Give if if it's. Just my 5.
2:32:23
Million. I got 1. 5 million.
2:32:26
Give me a $2 billion quarterback and the best tackle and interior
2:32:34
offensive lineman you can find. We'll figure.
2:32:37
We'll figure the rest out with the rest of the money.
2:32:39
But I. Need an offensive line and a.
2:32:41
Quarterback that can sling it or nothing else works.
2:32:45
Dan, I'm dropping 5 million on 4 offensive lineman.
2:32:52
I'm staying. Here I'm going to go QB.
2:33:01
With. Two and the rest on.
2:33:07
Offensive lineman OK. Chris, what you guys say, Chris?
2:33:14
I mean, it's easy for me, most important.
2:33:17
Most important positions in order quarterback.
2:33:20
Left tackle, defensive ending, quarterback.
2:33:22
That's the most important positions.
2:33:24
I was wondering why. I was wondering why nobody said
2:33:26
the cornerback yet. Yeah, yeah, nobody said that.
2:33:29
So if I'm going to turn around. No, they're important.
2:33:33
So I turn around in my position, I'll go 2.5 on.
2:33:42
If I got 5 million, I got 2.5 on my quarterback.
2:33:45
I go get the best left tackle I can go get.
2:33:49
I then turn around and go get the rest of the money I spend on
2:33:53
my pass rusher because my pass rusher means everything and I'm
2:33:59
going to have to play with what I got to play with because I
2:34:02
have. Talent.
2:34:04
In my quarterback room, Josh Clark and JoJo Crim are.
2:34:11
P4 players. P4 Players Jamar Deloach.
2:34:17
And. Knowledge Harrell are P4.
2:34:18
Players Q Reddish, QQ Reddish, Jordan Bass, Sheldon Robinson
2:34:27
and and Caleb Spencer and Noah Chambers are P4 players.
2:34:33
I got secondary guys, so that's where I play it.
2:34:36
I got to get a quarterback to be able to give a ball to my
2:34:39
playmakers. I'm I'm going to, I'm going to
2:34:41
be able to bring in a tight end. From.
2:34:46
Wherever who's going to want to play with Ty Howe and I don't
2:34:49
know if I missed it yeah, if if I if I missed it with Ty Howe
2:34:53
and. His offense, I've had an
2:34:56
opportunity. To kind of hear what he's going
2:34:59
to do, and I like what his offense is going to bring.
2:35:03
He's got a concept, he's got a game plan, something that my
2:35:09
previous OC before Monty didn't have.
2:35:12
And so he's going to be able to expand on it.
2:35:15
He's going to be able to beat the middle of the field up.
2:35:17
So I'm excited about that. I'm I've definitely had an
2:35:20
opportunity to to kind of get some insight on that.
2:35:23
So I'm excited about that. So yeah, let me get a
2:35:27
quarterback, let me get a, let me get a, let me get a, let me
2:35:30
get a defensive end and let me let me get a left tackle.
2:35:37
But I think I think Johnny Garrett another year in Matt
2:35:44
Moore system will be serviceable.
2:35:47
I don't think he's going to be all world, but I think he'll be
2:35:50
serviceable, serviceable. I'm going to go out on a limb.
2:35:53
I think Marlin Bright and Tommy Tommy Wilder will be will be the
2:35:59
next version of, you know, Kristen Darrisol and the next
2:36:06
and those and those guys. That's that's what I'm banking
2:36:08
on. That's what I know.
2:36:10
Those guys got to be I I know Marlin Bright's going to come
2:36:14
here and go to play. I know what Tommy.
2:36:16
Wilder has to. Do to go be exceptional and he
2:36:20
is a Sunday cat. He's a Sunday cat.
2:36:24
So, you know, I I believe that to be.
2:36:26
What he is. Field.
2:36:31
I mean, I'm going to trust the guy.
2:36:33
That. Has a kid on the.
2:36:35
Team it's what I'm going to do. Like, I mean, I feel like he is
2:36:41
a pretty good Paul all things like if I had $5,000,000, like I
2:36:47
mean, hey, man, I mean I would, I literally like, I don't know,
2:36:51
I'm inside out. Like you build from the defense
2:36:54
to the, to the offensive line. And but like I, I, I, I don't
2:37:00
know running back. I think we're set.
2:37:02
I think the skill positions like people can catch and run and we
2:37:05
got people there. I do maybe give Jared Ferguson
2:37:09
some of that money is what I maybe feel like a little bit.
2:37:13
I I am like that is the other thing.
2:37:16
I'll be honest with you. You can hire Brett Pryde and get
2:37:19
threw it back to you. No, like you're wearing.
2:37:23
My jersey from when I was in kindergarten.
2:37:25
Back there, no doubt very small in my video, but it's very
2:37:28
small. But look, if we could keep
2:37:31
Jared, like if you could bring Brett Pryde back, but Jared
2:37:36
Ferguson, I would probably not be as upset or confused or
2:37:41
frustrated as my life. But like I miss Jared Ferguson.
2:37:45
Now. Jared Ferguson's a hokey.
2:37:47
But like, whatever they you, you know better than anybody.
2:37:51
Your name is it on here. It says Chris Frog.
2:37:55
But you know, I feel like you have a pulse on the team better
2:37:58
than. Anybody what I want to know?
2:38:01
It's like, what is the vibe? Like it's kind of a joke.
2:38:05
Like I can only imagine what like a Brent Prime meeting and a
2:38:07
James Franklin meeting. It's like it's litter like KB
2:38:12
Toys and Toys-R-Us like. I feel like I compared the.
2:38:15
Navy damn like KB toys did a fine job at one point.
2:38:20
They were great. They.
2:38:23
Were right near the Chick-fil-A and the toys.
2:38:27
But. But that's that's what I want to
2:38:29
understand is like. What is the vibe?
2:38:31
Because the other thing that I've read anecdotally is that
2:38:34
like the Merriman Center is now the football center.
2:38:36
There ain't walking through the Merriman Center to walk the
2:38:40
basketball court to go to your table.
2:38:42
I don't give a shit who you are, how much money you give, I don't
2:38:45
care. You're going to walk around this
2:38:48
other building. You're going to need to park in
2:38:49
a different place. So that's what I want to know
2:38:52
and what the vibe is that way because like, I don't know, the
2:38:56
coaching is going to be a mystery in my opinion until the
2:38:59
coaching is the coaching. But I want to know like in the
2:39:02
are the players like, oh, shit, like this is no joke, because I
2:39:05
feel like we hear that all the time.
2:39:07
Like, oh, we got to go to class. Like I don't give a shit about
2:39:09
coach going to class. I care about getting better and
2:39:12
proving yourself to somebody that obviously has been there
2:39:15
and done that and was a play away from the national
2:39:18
championship game. So please, I mean you, you talk
2:39:24
about from my perspective, is that what you're asking?
2:39:26
What? Your perspective.
2:39:27
Plus obviously you have an informed perspective, so yes.
2:39:31
My perspective is that they understand that they got to go
2:39:34
to work. I think, and I think I said it
2:39:37
earlier in our in our talk, you, you got to understand this a
2:39:43
year to year deal and every kid knows that they sign a year to
2:39:50
year deal for them to be able to go to school and be at Virginia
2:39:54
Tech Okie. And I think like I said before,
2:39:58
there are more eyes on this program than any other program
2:40:02
in the ACC because of the addition of Franklin.
2:40:06
So I can only, I can only speak from the the kids that I talked
2:40:12
to and they understand. That hey, they're in audition.
2:40:17
They're in audition for the. Next 12.
2:40:20
Months, you know, you see all the running backs and I'm in a
2:40:24
group chat with some guys who have listed some guys that they
2:40:28
want to have running back but those all those guys have to
2:40:32
talk to the the new regime because there's a different.
2:40:38
Level of. Expectation from those guys, I'm
2:40:42
blessed and I'm humbled that my kid is in that, that that
2:40:48
perspective. So at the end of the day, man,
2:40:51
we got to go win games. We go win games.
2:40:54
You get the kids back that we have.
2:40:56
And I've always pounded the table for the 20, the 2324 and
2:41:01
25 clothes. Those are the kids that that
2:41:04
I've had a opportunity to talk. To.
2:41:07
Help get them here and we're going to be fine.
2:41:12
We get those with the portal that come in on the second we
2:41:15
get a, we get a legitimate E4 quarterback with an offensive
2:41:22
line because I think Kyron never had the opportunity to have a
2:41:24
full offensive line that could be able to block and do the
2:41:27
different things they can be able to do for him to help him.
2:41:30
We'll be fine. I'm fine.
2:41:32
I'm excited, and that's the easiest way I can say it.
2:41:36
Does that make sense? That that makes sense.
2:41:39
And the biggest issues on that one thing the.
2:41:43
The one thing that I'll say that.
2:41:45
Nobody hit on. Is we got to get a stud
2:41:47
linebacker too. We got some linebackers that can
2:41:50
play, but we got to get we got to get a stud.
2:41:54
Tony Rojas, come on down. I mean, Noah Chambers is.
2:41:58
I don't feel like he's. Far, but he needs some help, no?
2:42:00
He's not, He's just young. He's not hitting your goal.
2:42:07
We're going to talk about this again.
2:42:08
Don't worry 3. Of them still, I don't know if
2:42:11
you know this, but. You were just talking to the
2:42:13
Green Run Godfather and. That in itself is hey, hey, hey,
2:42:16
hey, hey, hey. I am just a guy.
2:42:20
What's the man? Stop putting that green brother
2:42:23
godfather stuff on me, the guy. Stay.
2:42:26
Thirsty, my friend. I'm thirsty to hang out with the
2:42:28
green run. Godfather.
2:42:30
In Charlotte. In Charlotte in 11 months,
2:42:33
right? Eleven months, maybe 11 days. 11
2:42:36
months all. Right.
2:42:39
In. Almost.
2:42:40
Three hours. As always.
2:42:43
This. Is.
2:42:44
An absolute blast. Every year it is some people
2:42:49
that came on, the people that came off maybe not have been the
2:42:52
biggest crowd tonight. I don't know where the white BIC
2:42:54
is, but we don't have conversation.
2:42:55
He joined on Instagram. He did not jump on live.
2:42:58
But Dwight, Dwight's always got a got got his hand on the pulse.
2:43:02
I'm sad because I missed the white.
2:43:03
I missed the white. Do it again.
2:43:05
You got to do it again when we got a more complete team.
2:43:07
This is uncharted territory, literally.
2:43:09
Uncharted territory. Uncharted territory.
2:43:12
But the way the state of the program goes right now is.
2:43:15
We've got a. Significantly better head coach.
2:43:17
We've got a significantly better staff.
2:43:19
The players are better than where they were three or four
2:43:21
years ago. Significantly, yes Sir.
2:43:24
And now everything that happens in the.
2:43:27
Next month, so maybe we run it back.
2:43:29
About a month from now, now it's going to be probably be more
2:43:33
stone cold sober because I can't do this every Friday night.
2:43:36
I will be dying. I won't be stone cold sober, but
2:43:40
I'll certainly be a few drinks. You know I have a tall PR in
2:43:45
here I did not get. Hammered tonight, this is.
2:43:48
Friday This is a steady Friday night.
2:43:50
Brian Sieglitz, Friday night date of the program.
2:43:52
Every quarter. Friday night, head of the
2:43:56
quarter, head of the. Program every quarter we might.
2:44:00
Be at the Bills. We might have to do it.
2:44:02
Hey, if we're. Doing this a month from now and
2:44:04
I'm invited. You know I'm going to be here,
2:44:05
so I know you will. Dan.
2:44:07
Yes, Sir. No doubt man, it's always
2:44:09
nothing on brother. But listen.
2:44:11
With that, stay in the program, 2025.
2:44:14
That wraps up this episode of the Boundary Corner podcast.
2:44:18
We're all to you by moments on the more he's right there, he's
2:44:21
right there. He's he's about 14 Bud Lights
2:44:24
deep. We're all to you back on the
2:44:26
pharmacy. We need to get Jeremy back on
2:44:28
here for Jonathan Talley. Give him the peace sign tally.
2:44:33
Tally Tally did not get to. Have any alcohol at night
2:44:36
because all these drugs he's on for Chris Lester?
2:44:40
Man, I love having you on here, brother.
2:44:42
I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you.
2:44:44
For. Dan visionary season checking
2:44:46
mount tears. On.
2:44:47
Tails from the Tear Dome. Tear from the tails Dome man.
2:44:50
That's how drunk I am. I brought LeBron single up the
2:44:54
last 30 years of my life. I am Curtis Wilson.
2:44:58
Check us out February. Go ahead, give shout out to
2:45:01
Brian. Man man, listen.
2:45:05
Dude that's been going through so much man and been checking on
2:45:09
him. I appreciate you bro.
2:45:11
I appreciate you man. It's going to get better.
2:45:14
I appreciate you checking on me man.
2:45:16
I really do. I really do every.
2:45:19
Time. Every time I feel like I'm I'm
2:45:21
having a little bit of a tough moment, I get a text or a call
2:45:25
from Chris. My guy always brings me up.
2:45:28
So shout out to my guy. Hey man, I'm proud of.
2:45:31
You, man, I'm. Proud of you bro, I know this is
2:45:33
a heavy season for you. It's heavy season for me every
2:45:35
year, but I'm proud of you guys help you guys, Guys helping guys
2:45:39
we need. That's what we do.
2:45:40
That's helping guys We need it. It's hard.
2:45:41
To be #40 it's hard being under 40 guys helping guys.
2:45:47
Check out our other podcasts. Yeah, that was like.
2:45:55
Phil just created another podcast for.
2:45:57
Us guys let's. Do it y'all, it's always.
2:45:59
Quit. Let's go check out Jason Long,
2:46:02
our buddy who plays this and plays.
2:46:04
This out every week and as always.
2:46:06
And I hope to God when we do this next year we are talking
2:46:09
about some good shit because the last few years it has been some
2:46:12
rough shit. But as always, let's go.
2:47:02
None.