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Steve Price | 26 June · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price. Good evening work to the
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Speaker 1: show after a massive day in Australian sport with the
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Speaker 1: fabulous soccer who's taking on Paraguay in a lunchtime clash
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Speaker 1: that had all of the nation on edge and how
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Speaker 1: good was it? The players, each one of them singing
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Speaker 1: the national anthem and the massive support inside that stadium
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Speaker 1: ended in a nil all draw, but Australia now through
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Speaker 1: to the next round, a match in Dallas in eight
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Speaker 1: days time. Coming up on the program tonight, police boss
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Speaker 1: Mike Bush in Victoria calls for mandatory sentencing for the
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Speaker 1: crackdown on crime in Victoria, which you would think would
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Speaker 1: put him at odds with the hard left labor government
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Speaker 1: and their appointed judges and magistrates. Former homicide squad detective
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Speaker 1: Charlie Bazina will be on the desk tonight. Europe's waking
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Speaker 1: up to the reality of energy, security and defense while
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Speaker 1: Australia keeps pushing ahead with a radical climate agenda. Energy
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Speaker 1: analyst Saul Kavonik joins me from his trip through Europe
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Speaker 1: and explains why. He says, we are Australia being left
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Speaker 1: behind and in a shock and crazily dumb move. The ACTU,
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Speaker 1: the peak union body in Australia, wants to reprosecute the
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Speaker 1: failed voice referendum defeated when sixty percent of you Australians
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Speaker 1: voted no. I'll go figure. Our panel will go through
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Speaker 1: that and we'll get the latest on the decision out
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Speaker 1: of the Melbourne Court this afternoon which has allowed a
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Speaker 1: woman with alleged links to ISIS to walk free on bail.
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Speaker 1: Will cross there shortly first up tonight, though, Victoria's Kiwi
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Speaker 1: Import Chief Commissioner Mike Bush has set himself on a
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Speaker 1: potential warpath with the hard left Jacinta Allen Labor government
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Speaker 1: in Victoria, telling the Age newspaper overnight that he now
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Speaker 1: favors graduated mandatory sentences for serious crimes. Now, as I said,
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Speaker 1: I'll get retired veteran Victoria Police detective Charlie Bazina's view
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Speaker 1: in a moment. But mark my words, this is a
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Speaker 1: milestone moment for Commissioner Bush and a challenge just six
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Speaker 1: months out from a state election at the end of November,
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Speaker 1: for a government full of politicians who believe jail is
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Speaker 1: no place for juvenile offenders. The Commissioner wants mandatory minimum
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Speaker 1: sentences for a first defense and ramping up for a second,
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Speaker 1: a third, and ultimate defenses would make sense to me
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Speaker 1: and certainly to victims of crime who've been attacked in
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Speaker 1: their homes in the dead of night, often by machete
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Speaker 1: wielding teenagers, bailed time and time again by soft magistrates.
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Speaker 1: And that right there is Mike Bush's stumbling block. Magistrates,
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Speaker 1: defense lawyers and labor politicians. They will fight this tooth
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Speaker 1: and nail, mark my words. But here was Commissioner Bush
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Speaker 1: on Radio three OLW today repeating his sentencing ambitions.
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Speaker 2: What I believe in this is talking to young offenders
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Speaker 2: as well, but also to victims as to ensure that
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Speaker 2: to provide deterrence to committing crime, people should know what
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Speaker 2: they're up for and there should be some certainty around that,
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Speaker 2: and that might provide that.
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Speaker 1: So it seems he is determined to lobby government to
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Speaker 1: make this happen, and his timing in the election cycle
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Speaker 1: could not be better. The coalition will, if they are sensible,
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Speaker 1: and that's not a given, with them will campaign heavily
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Speaker 1: on law and order during the election campaign, and with
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Speaker 1: Commissioner Bush doing the media rounds in the last twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours, both daily papers and this morning the two
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Speaker 1: took back radio stations, the ABC and three AW. Here
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Speaker 1: he was with Tom Elliott on AW Well.
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Speaker 2: My stance on this is the whole system's got to
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Speaker 2: work together to ensure we've got a safe Victoria Police
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Speaker 2: are very much at the forefront of that. We've got
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Speaker 2: our view, it's only one view, but we're very strong
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Speaker 2: on it. But what I encourage is for everyone to
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Speaker 2: come together, the system to come together, whether it's police, Judischiari, government,
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Speaker 2: we all get around the table and we actually do
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Speaker 2: and work together to resolve this.
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Speaker 1: It's a tough ass, but he's clearly invited all parties
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Speaker 1: to get together with him on this and I'll tell
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Speaker 1: you what the community would back him one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: Commissioner Bush has also pledged to crack down on hoon
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Speaker 1: drivers and change Victoria Police's pursuit policy, which for years
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Speaker 1: has erred on the side of caution, hoping to limit
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Speaker 1: damage to other inner innocent motorists in high speed chases.
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Speaker 1: What Mike Bush has done in the last twenty four
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Speaker 1: hours has obviously been calculated and predetermined. It's a gloves
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Speaker 1: off approach. Bush has vided his time, and it seems
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Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time, the public,
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Speaker 1: sick and tired of soft magistrates and lefty politicians too
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Speaker 1: scared to tackle the scourge of youth crime, have someone
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Speaker 1: on their side. And I say bring it on. Former
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Speaker 1: homicide Squad detective Charlie Bazina joins me, welcome to the studio.
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Speaker 1: I'm all right.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, he couldn't be more on side. And he's echoing
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Speaker 3: all the thoughts that I've had over the period of time,
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Speaker 3: and he will be music to the years are victims
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Speaker 3: of crime to start turning this around, and what he
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Speaker 3: says is so significant. Everyone's got to be on the
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Speaker 3: same page in relation to getting it done. The police
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Speaker 3: cannot do it on their own and him lobbing that
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Speaker 3: and it still echoes in my ears when he was
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Speaker 3: sworn in and he said at the time, I'm happy
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Speaker 3: to push back the government and that gave me great hope.
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Speaker 1: Sensibly, he's taken his time to do this. He hasn't
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Speaker 1: rushed in, hasn't tried to avoid making enemies in government.
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Speaker 1: But magistrates, judges and left leaning politicians hate the word
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Speaker 1: mandatory when it's applied to jail.
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Speaker 3: Sentence every month, so and it's in the lap of
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Speaker 3: the Attorney General at the moment. Now again with adult time,
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Speaker 3: adult crime, judges and magistrate will run the courts as
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Speaker 3: they see fit and they're bound by precedent, etc.
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Speaker 1: Etc.
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Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, it's got to
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Speaker 3: be legislated by the Attorney General through the government to
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Speaker 3: be able to direct these magistrates and judges of what
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Speaker 3: to do in relation to sentencing. It has to come in.
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Speaker 3: It's the only way around it, and the consequences need
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Speaker 3: to be there.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 1: Bush's longer explanation was, if you are a young teenager
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Speaker 1: and you're going down the wrong path and you've committed
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Speaker 1: a crime, you have to understand that there is a
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Speaker 1: consequence for that. He says. At the moment, the youngsters
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Speaker 1: he talks to have no concept of consequence. They don't
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Speaker 1: think that when they steal a car, arm themselves with
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Speaker 1: a machete, break into someone's house and take another car,
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Speaker 1: that anything will happen to.
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Speaker 4: Them very much.
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Speaker 3: So we've had recent examples of that a youth of
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Speaker 3: recent times.
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Speaker 1: As the kid who torched the alcohol joint and then
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Speaker 1: bashed playing close copper.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely and then he has walked out again free.
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Speaker 3: And it's the same as that those youths, the sentematism
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Speaker 3: in South aral Keran wherever it was about one hundred
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Speaker 3: odd charges, no charges, just withdrawing all charges. And that
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Speaker 3: reflects and that goes down to these other morons that
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Speaker 3: see that and say, you know what, we are untouchable.
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Speaker 1: So you've been at the high levels of the police force.
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Speaker 1: How will this now work? Will will the commissioner lobby
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Speaker 1: the Premier directly and the ag is that how that works?
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Speaker 1: And then the Attorney General will tell the courts that
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Speaker 1: this is what's going to happen from now on.
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Speaker 3: That's certainly in the short term because I think the
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Speaker 3: conversation will probably be with the police Minister if we
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Speaker 3: can find him.
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Speaker 1: Never see him, correct ever, correct, I can't remember. He's
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Speaker 1: never been here and I've never seen I never seen
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Speaker 1: him on any news.
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Speaker 3: He's got no credibility. And ultimately the conversation is there.
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Speaker 3: And what you're going to remember is senior police command
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Speaker 3: are under government contracts and one of those scenarios is
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Speaker 3: you shall not criticize government's courts or the police service.
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Speaker 3: But it's so brave for Mike Bush to come out
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Speaker 3: there and say you know enough. He's given an undertaken
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Speaker 3: to this community some time ago that is going to
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Speaker 3: reduce the crime. But he can't do it on his own.
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Speaker 3: He has to lobby the government and see what happens
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Speaker 3: in November.
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Speaker 1: His ambition I heard him this morning, was five percent
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Speaker 1: year on YUK that he wants. The latest crime stats
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Speaker 1: had crime down by three point six. But when you
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Speaker 1: unpacked that, it's not really falling in the areas that
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Speaker 1: it needs to fall correct. So you know, let's take
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Speaker 1: a home invasion and let's say Commissioner Bush gets this through.
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Speaker 1: So would you have a mandatory minimum sentence for a
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Speaker 1: first defender in a home invasion?
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Speaker 4: Again, it has to be the circumstances.
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Speaker 1: And I said, look, if someone breaks into a house
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Speaker 1: armed with a sharp bladed weapon and it frightens the
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Speaker 1: hell out of a husband and wife and two kids,
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Speaker 1: that sorely constitutes adult crime. Adult times, it.
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Speaker 3: Does, but you've got to balance it in fairness to
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Speaker 3: the whole system. We do have these Finns and pulled
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Speaker 3: along and they follow suit. They never been in trouble
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Speaker 3: the police before, may come from a good family and
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Speaker 3: so ultimately there's.
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Speaker 1: Got a lot off it's a repeat offense.
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Speaker 4: Well, I it's redependent. That's when all gloves are off.
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Speaker 3: That's when it's going to be mandated and say this
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Speaker 3: is your second offense. You're given a license to go
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Speaker 3: and bail. You committed further offense.
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Speaker 1: We have jail space for this, absolutely we have.
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Speaker 3: There's a new youth child. It's body is still half
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Speaker 3: empty at Cherry.
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Speaker 1: So for you know, our national audience, to give them
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Speaker 1: an idea of what's going on here, have a look
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Speaker 1: at this footage that we saw this week. Fifty motorcycle
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Speaker 1: gang members twelve allegedly carrying machettes riding through Melbourne at
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Speaker 1: high I shouldn't laugh at high speed, crashing, smashing up
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Speaker 1: a car and threatening a driver. I mean that's exactly
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Speaker 1: the kind of behavior victorians are seen. Let's have a
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Speaker 1: look at that. Look at that. I mean this is
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Speaker 1: just frightening stuff.
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Speaker 4: I mean it's this is wild West.
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Speaker 1: I mean that's like something out of a third world country.
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Speaker 4: And they take the police.
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Speaker 3: So ultimately there's got to be Unfortunately police will not
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Speaker 3: have the resources to tackle them. Mind, you've got one
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Speaker 3: divisional van there probably in one hundred crowds.
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Speaker 1: It's fifty them, correct.
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Speaker 4: You cannot do that.
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Speaker 3: They've got to take the policy that they do for
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Speaker 3: demonstrations and protests. Get police undercover there, recording all that
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Speaker 3: that harm. Identifying cars. Having a registed car as a privilege.
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Speaker 3: Having a license is a privilege. Identify these people, but
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Speaker 3: get the legislation to say, you know what, you will
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Speaker 3: no longer have a registered car, you will no longer
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Speaker 3: have your license.
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Speaker 4: That's where you've got to hit them. But you've got
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Speaker 4: to be legislated.
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Speaker 1: If you're sitting in a divisional van of fifty people,
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Speaker 1: some hooded, some wearing airing machetes, turn up and start
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Speaker 1: back booting your vehicle, you don't get out.
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Speaker 3: Of course you don't, and you can't get drive off
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Speaker 3: the best you can because you've got people in front
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Speaker 3: of you.
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Speaker 4: They're boxing you in.
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Speaker 3: But you shouldn't be putting yourself in that position the
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Speaker 3: first and the people.
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Speaker 1: Sitting in that van are armed. You know, you've got
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Speaker 1: to have training and discipline because if you get out
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Speaker 1: and start shooting people, they.
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Speaker 3: Will never happened, and ultimately the worst case scenario is
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Speaker 3: they would then get injured themselves, so they shouldn't be
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Speaker 3: putting themselves in that position of going intough a throng
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Speaker 3: of people because no longer well people like them take
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Speaker 3: notice of the police. There's no respect for the police,
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Speaker 3: there's no respect for the justice system and no consequences.
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Speaker 1: Well we'll leave it there, but more powered.
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Speaker 4: Mike bullshet one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Charlie, thank you for coming in.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 1: I want to shift now to Europe and revelations that
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Speaker 1: are real shift there from the focus on climate ambition
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Speaker 1: to energy security and defense preparedness and concerns Australia is
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Speaker 1: getting left in the dust. We saw those excellent interviews
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Speaker 1: Peter Kredlin did during the week and a lot of
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Speaker 1: it was about how, as Tony Blair has explained, they're
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Speaker 1: starting to wake up that this green dream is turning
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Speaker 1: into a nightmare. Mst financial energy analyst and regular here
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Speaker 1: on Sky saw Kavonic joins me. Now he happens to
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Speaker 1: be in Europe. I think you've been in London this
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Speaker 1: week for the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship where Peter was
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Speaker 1: brought casting from, but you've also been in Europe in
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Speaker 1: the lead up to this study tour. I mean it
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Speaker 1: got hot over there. It's thirty six or something today
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Speaker 1: in London. That gives the global warming catastrophist a real
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Speaker 1: opportunity to so see we told you.
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Speaker 6: Well, We've been spending time here on defense, national security,
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Speaker 6: and energy meetings across Europe, and what you're seeing in
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Speaker 6: Europe is a fundamental shift over the last two years
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Speaker 6: where just in time supply chains are no longer focus
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Speaker 6: and instead we're seeing just in case supply chains, particularly
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Speaker 6: in the wake of the Iraq War. But also the
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Speaker 6: energy transition debate is becoming much more of an energy
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Speaker 6: addition debate as we're seeing increase demand and use of
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Speaker 6: all technology types for energy, particularly with demand rising in
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Speaker 6: the wake of AI driven data center demand. Perhaps one
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Speaker 6: of the most telling things is had a meeting last
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Speaker 6: week with a state owned renewable energy developer. This is
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Speaker 6: in a country with a left leaning labor government, and
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Speaker 6: even this company's leadership is saying energy security is now
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Speaker 6: the number one priority, followed by energy reliability, and last
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Speaker 6: on the list now is climate considerations. And that is
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Speaker 6: a complete reversal of the priorities only two years ago.
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Speaker 6: Because Europe, which went probably further than most anywhere else
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Speaker 6: in the world regarding climate policy as learns its lessons
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Speaker 6: also much faster and is now backtracking, particularly in wake
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Speaker 6: of the Ukraine War and now the Iran War. They
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Speaker 6: I think is some lessons for Australia, which has kind
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Speaker 6: of been following Europe in that direction over the last
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Speaker 6: five years, and now that a europe is making that
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Speaker 6: about turn, we're probably going to see Australia do so.
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Speaker 6: But we seem to be doing it much more slowly
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Speaker 6: because we haven't had a war on our doorstep to
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Speaker 6: give us that proper wake up call.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck while we've got Chris Bone in charge.
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Speaker 1: So individual European countries driving this or is it coming
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Speaker 1: out of the European Commission?
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Speaker 6: This is much more coming out of individual countries. The
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Speaker 6: European Commission and the more multilateral bodies here are still
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Speaker 6: much more in the phase where they don't realize PESG
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Speaker 6: is properly behind us. That's going to just be a
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Speaker 6: slower journey for them. But if you look at the
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Speaker 6: decisions that are being made by key state owned enterprises
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Speaker 6: and key government policy even here in the UK and
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Speaker 6: the wake of new leadership, we are likely to see,
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Speaker 6: for example, some long stalled approvals for drilling in the
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Speaker 6: North Sea given approval quite imminently. The changes are being
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Speaker 6: seen in those decisions, and those are ultimately the decisions
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Speaker 6: that matter more so than what happens in Brussels.
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Speaker 1: Tony Blair obviously came out and famously said, you know,
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Speaker 1: hang on, let's put a bit of a hold on
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Speaker 1: all of this stuff and reevaluate it. But the appears
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Speaker 1: that the Brits are about to elect a hard left
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Speaker 1: prime minister who's just going to Andy Burnham was going
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Speaker 1: to take over from Sakia Starma, So I wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: holding out a hell of a lot of hope that
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Speaker 1: Britain is going to do what you're saying. I mean,
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Speaker 1: is there any indication that they just feel now that
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Speaker 1: they have to and that the public servants behind the
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Speaker 1: politicians are saying this is what we have to do.
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Speaker 6: So now, the surprising thing is there actually is, And
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Speaker 6: notwithstanding that we're seeing the new leadership in the UK
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Speaker 6: moves to the left, I think we are actually likely
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Speaker 6: to be surprised when they start approving more drilling in
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Speaker 6: the North Sea. Now that's not a sign that they're
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Speaker 6: moving to the pragmatic sector center on all issues, but
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Speaker 6: it does. It is a signal I think, at least
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Speaker 6: what we're hearing that when it comes to energy, Europe
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Speaker 6: has been forced to become more pragmatic. You've got to
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Speaker 6: remember Russia turned all of its gas in twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 6: You'renouncing some severe supply chain disruptions in the wake of
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Speaker 6: the Iran War, and this has been combined with severe
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Speaker 6: logistical and policy constraints on what they hope would be
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Speaker 6: a very rapid renewables roll out and hasn't materialized. And
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Speaker 6: Europe is in a more vulnerable position overall, and for
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Speaker 6: example Australia and so they've had to have that lesson
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Speaker 6: learnt more quickly, so that even these more environmentally minded
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Speaker 6: leaders and governments are being forced to face reality earlier
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Speaker 6: than Australia has.
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Speaker 1: How far behind are we? I mean, so when you
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Speaker 1: look and listen to particularly Bowen, but also even the
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Speaker 1: Treasurer of Jim Chalmers and the Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi,
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Speaker 1: you don't get any sense that they're doing anything except
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Speaker 1: plowing on down this road, regardless of what damage they're
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Speaker 1: going to do.
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Speaker 6: Well, Look, I think there's already been at least a
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Speaker 6: modest change in the rhetoric from Australia's government from a
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Speaker 6: year ago, where at least there's now some recognition, for example,
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Speaker 6: of the role of gas, where trying to get anyone
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Speaker 6: in lay By say anything about positive about gas eighteen
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Speaker 6: months ago was almost impossible. My concern is less about
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Speaker 6: the high level rhetoric that's coming from our government in Australia,
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Speaker 6: but their actual ability to do anything about the huge
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Speaker 6: levels of hostility in inertia which are embedded in our
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Speaker 6: regulatory departments, particularly in environmental approvals, which means even if
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Speaker 6: you get, for example, a more pragmatic environment minister like
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Speaker 6: we have in Murray Watt compared to Tadial Plipasec, that's
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Speaker 6: not filtering down into the organization where it still takes
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Speaker 6: for tiny little things like a ten million dollar gas
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Speaker 6: pipeline tied on existing project that would normally take one
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Speaker 6: or two months to be approved a few years or
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Speaker 6: several years ago. Now it takes two years. And that
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Speaker 6: we're not seeing appetite from our political leaders to actually
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Speaker 6: fix this hostility we see in our department, and that's
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Speaker 6: before taking into account they're refusing to fix the issues
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Speaker 6: regarding green law fare which are destroying economic projects across
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Speaker 6: the country. And in fact, the government continues to fund
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Speaker 6: the green law for against the government's own approvals. And
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Speaker 6: so we've got to look at actions rather than words.
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Speaker 6: And while I think the words from the government have
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Speaker 6: become a little bit more measured, the actions are still
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Speaker 6: telling us that we are anti investment and we've lost
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Speaker 6: the balance between investment facilitation and investment regulation. We're no
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Speaker 6: longer a country of go, we become a country of
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Speaker 6: no when it comes to energy.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's hope we wake up so we'll enjoy that
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Speaker 1: warm weather in London. Appreciate it very much. You interrupting
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Speaker 1: your trip there to talk to us tonight, All right
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Speaker 1: after the break. As planning for the twenty thirty two
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Speaker 1: Brisbane Olympics continues, plenty of concerns about preparedness, but just
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Speaker 1: one concern at a special meeting convened at the Olympic
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Speaker 1: headquarters in Switzerland this week, Crocodiles will find out more
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Speaker 1: next welcome ACTU Price with you the government in Camber
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Speaker 1: this week. They still seem to me to be blind
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Speaker 1: to the pressures facing everyday Australians. I mean, we had
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Speaker 1: a slight dip in the overall inflation figure, but when
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Speaker 1: you look at the in deeper, I mean things like
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Speaker 1: insurance costs, the cost of groceries, the cost of everyday life,
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Speaker 1: just continues to go through the roof. And yet they've
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Speaker 1: passed this new bill with the Greens to get their
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Speaker 1: unpopular tax reforms up. I mean, it's quite extraordinary. Joining
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Speaker 1: me now from Brisbane, Sky News regular and former Queensland
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Speaker 1: Premier Campbell Newman. It is great to see you, Campbell
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Speaker 1: on a Friday. I want to get to that in
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Speaker 1: a moment. But we're waiting here in victim Tichoria where
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Speaker 1: one of the alleged I's brides has been in court today.
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Speaker 1: We have discovered that this woman who has been granted
20:09
Speaker 1: bail and she's still in the Melbourne courthouse. We have
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Speaker 1: a reporter out the front if we see her at all.
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Speaker 1: This is Kasara are Mad also known as Kasara Abbas.
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Speaker 1: She's a fifty four year old and she will be bailed.
20:24
Speaker 1: She will walk free tonight on strict bail conditions. Her
20:28
Speaker 1: defense lawyer said, well, she's fair Dingham. She now wants
20:31
Speaker 1: to live a peaceful life in Australia. Of course, we've
20:34
Speaker 1: had allegations in this case that her and her husband
20:37
Speaker 1: kept a slave. I just puzzles me, Campbell that a
20:43
Speaker 1: these people were allowed to come back to the country
20:46
Speaker 1: and b that they're now going to be free to
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Speaker 1: roam about in our suburbs.
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Speaker 7: Steve, Look, we obviously can't talk about specifics, and these
20:57
Speaker 7: are allegations that ultimately so have be tested through the
21:01
Speaker 7: court system. But yeah, if we just talk about the
21:04
Speaker 7: whole isis Bride situation, not a specific case.
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Speaker 8: Yes, I and many Australians.
21:11
Speaker 7: Yourself included, I'm sure all just infuriated and deeply concerned
21:17
Speaker 7: about how this is all unfolded. I mean, a group
21:20
Speaker 7: of people go off to a foreign a foreign war,
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Speaker 7: to support a hideous death cult, who engage in the
21:30
Speaker 7: most awful crimes against all sorts of different religions and
21:37
Speaker 7: races in the Middle East, and essentially turned their back
21:42
Speaker 7: on Australia, And somehow they're able to get back into
21:45
Speaker 7: the country, and we've got a government that then pretends
21:49
Speaker 7: that they had nothing to do with it. But somehow
21:52
Speaker 7: people get passports and somehow, through all the difficulties of
21:58
Speaker 7: the Middle East, they managed to be repatriated back to home,
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Speaker 7: and what a surprise.
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Speaker 8: Gosh, I tell you what, after being in.
22:08
Speaker 7: Some of those hell whole sort of refugee camps, I'm
22:12
Speaker 7: sure you'd say anything to say that, to renounce your
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Speaker 7: your former sort of radical, sort of violent beliefs.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course you want to be back on I
22:25
Speaker 1: was just talking, just talking to X Homicides Squat detective
22:28
Speaker 1: Charlie Berzener, who said exactly that to me. He said,
22:30
Speaker 1: of course you would say that if you you know,
22:33
Speaker 1: if you've survived the hell of those camps and your
22:36
Speaker 1: husband's in jail over there, and you get back here,
22:38
Speaker 1: you're going to say whatever you can to get out
22:40
Speaker 1: of out of jail yourself. I mean, it just staggers me.
22:44
Speaker 8: Though.
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Speaker 1: We'll cross to that live if it happens while we're
22:46
Speaker 1: on here. What about these tax reforms, I mean, you know,
22:49
Speaker 1: we even fan out during the week that if you're
22:52
Speaker 1: a couple and you owned an investment property and you
22:54
Speaker 1: got divorced or one of you died, then the grandfathered
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Speaker 1: tax advantages on that investment property, the negative gearing advantages,
23:04
Speaker 1: they disappear the grandfather and just goes straight out the door.
23:08
Speaker 1: And Jim Chalmers just says, oh, well, you know, these
23:10
Speaker 1: things are complex. You know, took a while for us
23:12
Speaker 1: to sort it out. I mean, they've got no idea
23:14
Speaker 1: what they're doing with this thing.
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Speaker 7: Well, they don't Steve and it isn't reform, and I
23:22
Speaker 7: know that's what people are talking and they label a
23:25
Speaker 7: lot of they label it as reform, but it's not.
23:28
Speaker 7: It is a great, big tax grab, the largest tax
23:31
Speaker 7: grab that I can recall in my entire lifetime in
23:36
Speaker 7: one go by a government, and a total betrayal of
23:41
Speaker 7: what they said prior to election.
23:43
Speaker 8: And it won't go away. And going back to your.
23:45
Speaker 7: Intro comments about the cost of living and things like that,
23:49
Speaker 7: you know, these things actually hurt the little guy. That's
23:55
Speaker 7: where the impact is more. It's actually impacting on young
23:59
Speaker 7: people trying to save for a home deposit or whatever.
24:04
Speaker 7: And so many of them now invest on the share market.
24:08
Speaker 7: They're going to get whacked as to the costs of living.
24:10
Speaker 7: I mean, my family, on a good.
24:14
Speaker 8: Wicket, we've built some prosperity for ourselves.
24:17
Speaker 7: We've invested forty thousand dollars in solar panels and batteries,
24:23
Speaker 7: and yet our power bill still is over two hundred
24:26
Speaker 7: dollars a month, and the energy provider here in Queensland
24:30
Speaker 7: that we use put up the connection charge up by
24:33
Speaker 7: thirteen percent.
24:35
Speaker 8: That's an extra fifty bucks a year.
24:38
Speaker 7: So you know, one hand, they're saying, oh, we're going
24:40
Speaker 7: to give you this tax, tax, tax cut, but it's
24:43
Speaker 7: been gobbled up by extremely large increases in all sorts
24:46
Speaker 7: of aspects of the cost of living.
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Speaker 1: And Chris Brown runs around the country telling us how
24:52
Speaker 1: wonderful it all is, and everyone's got a battery and
24:54
Speaker 1: power is going to be cheaper, and we all know
24:56
Speaker 1: that's not true. Now there's an old saying. Campbell is
25:00
Speaker 1: an old saying that it could only happen in Queensland.
25:03
Speaker 1: I've got a fantastic example of this for you. You
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Speaker 1: not you, but your state intends holding the Olympic rowing
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Speaker 1: for the Olympic Games on the Fitzroy River in Rockampton.
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Speaker 1: And at an IOC meeting in Switzerland this week, one
25:20
Speaker 1: delegate actually asked the question if the salties the saltwater crocodiles,
25:26
Speaker 1: will they be behind fences? I mean seriously, I mean, mate,
25:33
Speaker 1: what is going on up there?
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Speaker 7: Well, I'm sort of surprised that the government, the state
25:42
Speaker 7: government are so fixated on having it in Rockampton, and
25:46
Speaker 7: they've been quite defiant and pushing back on any sort
25:49
Speaker 7: of question.
25:50
Speaker 8: About the IOSA.
25:51
Speaker 7: They're really saying, you know, it's going to be it's
25:54
Speaker 7: going to be in Rockampton, or it ain't going to
25:56
Speaker 7: happen at all.
25:56
Speaker 8: And there are other.
25:58
Speaker 7: Issues I think about having it in rock Hampton. It's
26:02
Speaker 7: it's it's a regional city in a great place. But
26:06
Speaker 7: for the competitors and the spectators want to see it,
26:10
Speaker 7: it is taking them away also from the center of
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Speaker 7: action a whole lot of others, you know, activities on
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Speaker 7: sports during the Olympic Games.
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Speaker 8: I think I think it's always been a rather questionable
26:21
Speaker 8: political maneuver by the government.
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Speaker 7: But yeah, well look, let's just hope all the crocs
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Speaker 7: are rounded up safely behind bars for the duration off
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Speaker 7: the Olympic rowing events, or there could be a terrible
26:34
Speaker 7: tragedy made.
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Speaker 1: Well you're old mate. Chris ah Fooley, the Premier, when
26:39
Speaker 1: he was asked about this, he said, look, if it's
26:42
Speaker 1: okay for Queensland kids to row on the Fitzroy River,
26:45
Speaker 1: it's okay for Pierre from Paris.
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Speaker 7: Well that's our premier made. He's good with the one liner.
26:54
Speaker 7: He was a former journalist, you know, up in Townsville.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's.
26:59
Speaker 7: He that been. Yes, that's what he said. But seriously,
27:05
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that it's the right venue.
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Speaker 8: Sorry, rock Hampton.
27:08
Speaker 7: I love you, I really do, but I'm not sure
27:11
Speaker 7: that's the right venue for the rowing.
27:14
Speaker 8: Less the Premier is on your side.
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Speaker 1: Not the place for the rowing. Camon. You mean, thank
27:19
Speaker 1: you mate, I'll see you next Friday. I mean, that
27:21
Speaker 1: is just unbelievable that you would have Olympic rowing on
27:24
Speaker 1: a river with crocodiles in it. My two daughters were
27:27
Speaker 1: both rowers, and I've seen some pretty bad things in
27:30
Speaker 1: the Yarraw River while they've been training, but certainly no crocodiles.
27:33
Speaker 1: I want to go back overseas. Now back to the UK.
27:36
Speaker 1: It's been a huge week politically. I mean I was
27:38
Speaker 1: on with Peter Kredlin on Tuesday night. Twenty minutes into
27:41
Speaker 1: our show, Sa kirs Stamer walked out the front of
27:44
Speaker 1: Number ten Downing Street, put the lecton down and said,
27:47
Speaker 1: I'm off, I've had enough. I'm quitting. He's out the door,
27:51
Speaker 1: fell on his sword, and of course we now know
27:54
Speaker 1: that we have Andy Burham who's probably going to be
27:58
Speaker 1: the next Prime Minister of the UK. Let's go to
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Speaker 1: the UK now Sky and his contributor Friday Night regular
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Speaker 1: Adrian Hayes. Adrian, all was good to see you, my friend.
28:07
Speaker 1: Tell me about this Burnham character. I'm told he's further
28:12
Speaker 1: left than Stammer. Is that possible?
28:16
Speaker 4: Good opener.
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Speaker 9: Look, let's say something everyone says about Andy Burnham, that
28:21
Speaker 9: he's a nice guy, popular, he's got these communication skills,
28:25
Speaker 9: which of course Keir Starmer had nothing at all. But
28:29
Speaker 9: you know, we're not electing. This is not a popularity contest.
28:33
Speaker 9: You know, we've got that we need a competent politician,
28:36
Speaker 9: competent prem PM to lead this country. Has he got
28:40
Speaker 9: it what it takes? I mean he's got the communication skills,
28:43
Speaker 9: but has he got the courage of conviction? Has he
28:45
Speaker 9: got the vision? And has he got the judgment that
28:48
Speaker 9: we need? And we're in a pretty desperate situation. I
28:50
Speaker 9: don't know he you know, he could be furthered up.
28:53
Speaker 9: I mean he could see if he could really put
28:56
Speaker 9: a marker straight away, if he's stopped the legal immigrants
29:00
Speaker 9: to stop the boats, if he opened norsea oil and
29:03
Speaker 9: if he cut welfare benefits. But I just don't think
29:05
Speaker 9: it will.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't see him moving on the migration issue.
29:09
Speaker 1: I mean, given his politics and given what we've seen
29:13
Speaker 1: with hard left politicians over the years. We've had plenty
29:16
Speaker 1: of them here in Australia, you know, and when we
29:18
Speaker 1: had Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard running the joint you know,
29:21
Speaker 1: there was an illegal boat arriving on Christmas Island every
29:24
Speaker 1: second day and it took the government of you know,
29:30
Speaker 1: the conservative side of government to put a stop to that.
29:32
Speaker 1: I mean, Tony Abbott stopped the boats. But anam doesn't
29:37
Speaker 1: suggest to me that he's like Burnham, I should say,
29:39
Speaker 1: it doesn't suggest to me that he's likely to want
29:41
Speaker 1: to do that.
29:43
Speaker 4: You know, you're right.
29:44
Speaker 9: And one of the criticism of Burnham is that he's look,
29:47
Speaker 9: he's run Manchester as a mayor for the last seven
29:48
Speaker 9: years or so, but nobody knows what he stands for.
29:51
Speaker 9: And that's one of the big things that people kind
29:53
Speaker 9: of work out. And the other thing, of course, the
29:57
Speaker 9: Labor Party is such a powerful the backbencher's whole all
30:00
Speaker 9: the power of this country. And of course something else
30:02
Speaker 9: is you know, the institutions are civil service that is
30:06
Speaker 9: the biggest, the largest that's ever been. So I you know,
30:09
Speaker 9: it's an unknown, it's an unknown.
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Speaker 1: One would hope.
30:12
Speaker 9: I think anyone who's proud of country, of what we
30:15
Speaker 9: could be, would hope that he does well, no matter
30:18
Speaker 9: what party he's from. But will he have that courage
30:21
Speaker 9: to take it. I'm not sure. And look, we faced
30:24
Speaker 9: so many bigger problems. I mean, you said, it's the
30:27
Speaker 9: seventh prime minister in ten years, a decade. We have
30:30
Speaker 9: an absence of leadership and politicians. We have a state
30:33
Speaker 9: that is too big, we have institutions that run the show,
30:36
Speaker 9: and I believe we have too many people in this country.
30:38
Speaker 9: We are crumbling under the weight of all this numbers
30:42
Speaker 9: of people.
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Speaker 1: The bravest thing he could do would be calling an
30:47
Speaker 1: election and test the will of the people. That's the
30:50
Speaker 1: bravest thing he could do.
30:53
Speaker 9: Turkeys don't vote for Christophers. That's a popular term. I
30:56
Speaker 9: mean it's he could do. He will have a popularity
30:59
Speaker 9: bounce because he is a personal character. But I think
31:02
Speaker 9: unless he can tackle these deep rooted institutional problems that
31:06
Speaker 9: the UK has, I think that will slowly wean away.
31:11
Speaker 9: So I don't think he will personally, but you never know.
31:14
Speaker 9: Anything is possible these days in the UK.
31:17
Speaker 1: One of those institutional issues you have is gender. We've
31:20
Speaker 1: got a significant debate continuing over puberty blockers after a
31:24
Speaker 1: government review and restrictions on the use in children. I mean,
31:29
Speaker 1: the outrage is palpable. What's happened with that?
31:33
Speaker 9: Yeah, the government have agreed to restart puberty blockers for
31:38
Speaker 9: eleven year olds on a trial system. You know, I
31:42
Speaker 9: think I heard I think an MP of Green MP
31:45
Speaker 9: was saying, look, this doesn't change gender. It allows eleven
31:48
Speaker 9: year olds to pause, to have time to explore their.
31:52
Speaker 4: Sexuality and their gender.
31:54
Speaker 9: What absolute nonsense. And I think history will go back
31:58
Speaker 9: in whatever it's twenty years, fifty years. I will look
32:00
Speaker 9: back and say, how do we ever allow children to
32:04
Speaker 9: put how do we have allowed them poisoned chemicals our children?
32:07
Speaker 9: How do we allow our schools to be lockdown during
32:10
Speaker 9: closed during lockdowns? How do we allow to go on
32:13
Speaker 9: social media? And how do we you know, go through
32:15
Speaker 9: this whole ideology that is just sort of abusing our children.
32:21
Speaker 9: It's a disgraceful act and I hope there will be
32:23
Speaker 9: a mass rebellion against them.
32:26
Speaker 1: You're a tough bloke. You've worked in very hot temperatures,
32:29
Speaker 1: very freezing cold temperatures. You've climbed Mount Everest, You've done everything.
32:34
Speaker 1: How have you survived the record temperatures across the UK
32:37
Speaker 1: this week? I mean, I think it got to a
32:40
Speaker 1: steamy thirty six degrees in London. How are you coping
32:44
Speaker 1: thirty six? Yeah?
32:45
Speaker 9: The Middle East goes up the fifty regularly. Look, I
32:48
Speaker 9: don't do very well to heat myself, but it's hot,
32:50
Speaker 9: it's a bit sticky, it's uncomfortable. That's why I'm dressed
32:53
Speaker 9: down today. But the hysteria, I mean all the press,
32:56
Speaker 9: all the media are saying the hottest June day ever. No,
33:00
Speaker 9: it's the hottest since eighteen eighties. In fact, the eighteen
33:02
Speaker 9: hundreds were cold, colder century in the last two thousand years.
33:07
Speaker 9: The weather maps we used to help temperatures, now they're crimson.
33:12
Speaker 4: It's not black.
33:13
Speaker 10: With this heat wave coming.
33:14
Speaker 9: People are bunking off work, schools have clothes. I mean,
33:17
Speaker 9: it's just absolutely ridiculous. So look, it's only for three
33:20
Speaker 9: or four days. Just grin and bear it, and you
33:23
Speaker 9: know it will pass. We'll be back to rain next week,
33:25
Speaker 9: I'm sure.
33:27
Speaker 1: I mean, reading in the papers. I mean, the press
33:29
Speaker 1: reporting has been so over the top, and all the
33:32
Speaker 1: climate alarmists are out there and jumping up and down saying,
33:35
Speaker 1: we told you so, it's going to be global warming.
33:37
Speaker 1: But then I see, you know, there's a story saying
33:39
Speaker 1: two children died in Paris. Then when I read the detail,
33:43
Speaker 1: the dopey parents left them in a car and they
33:46
Speaker 1: passed away in the heat. I mean, come on, I mean,
33:48
Speaker 1: let's get real.
33:49
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, of course the climate changed. Sell it's called
33:53
Speaker 9: seize on this. But it's a simple fact that to
33:55
Speaker 9: ten to twenty times on people particularly only people die
33:59
Speaker 9: of the cold and they're two other heat. There will
34:01
Speaker 9: be some fatalities, which is very sad.
34:04
Speaker 6: But we you know, there's no.
34:06
Speaker 9: Shortage of advice going around the world through water, stay indoors,
34:09
Speaker 9: travel when only necessary. So look again, you've got on
34:12
Speaker 9: a little bit of perspective. We've become this society, this
34:15
Speaker 9: ultra cautiousm safety ism, catastrophization. Everything is a catastrophe, and
34:20
Speaker 9: it's not it's hot weather. The earth is warming. I'm
34:22
Speaker 9: firmly of that conviction, of that view, but it's just
34:26
Speaker 9: something we just overcome and just get on with. Life
34:28
Speaker 9: as we always have done, not least in the last
34:30
Speaker 9: heat wave fifty years ago, the last real big one.
34:34
Speaker 1: It's Friday morning there. Just go down the pub, Adriaan.
34:36
Speaker 1: That's what I'd advised you do the rest of the
34:38
Speaker 1: day and I have a nice long lunch and a
34:40
Speaker 1: big cold pint. Thank you, Adrian. I'll talk to you soon,
34:42
Speaker 1: my friend. All right, after the break, A wrap of
34:45
Speaker 1: the week that was with our Herald Sun cartoonist, our
34:47
Speaker 1: favorite Mark Night. He's up next. Welcome back to Friday night'sy,
34:56
Speaker 1: our very very favorite segment every Fortnight summary of the
35:00
Speaker 1: week in cartoons from the best in the business, the
35:02
Speaker 1: Herald Sons. Mark Knight has just come back from a
35:05
Speaker 1: few weeks off drawing cartoons. Spilling ink on yourself? What's
35:09
Speaker 1: that about?
35:10
Speaker 11: I dropped an ink bottle just before I came down here.
35:13
Speaker 11: I'm going out to that. I'm wearing a good shirt.
35:15
Speaker 11: Usually I wear a.
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Speaker 1: Black T shirt. It shows you are an actual artist.
35:18
Speaker 1: There's no AI involved here.
35:20
Speaker 11: I used ink.
35:20
Speaker 1: There's a pen and any truth in that true story.
35:23
Speaker 1: Let's kick things off with Saki. Well, that's an alliteration
35:26
Speaker 1: that I probably would avoided kick things off with a
35:29
Speaker 1: Sakia Starma revolving door at number ten, and there he
35:33
Speaker 1: has been kicked out the door.
35:35
Speaker 11: That door there, it's been working very hard. What is he?
35:38
Speaker 11: Number five? In the last.
35:39
Speaker 1: Seven seven of them, I couldn't name them all. But
35:44
Speaker 1: he was very weak individual. I would have thought hard
35:47
Speaker 1: to draw.
35:48
Speaker 11: Well, I've only drawn him a few times, and he
35:50
Speaker 11: sort of reminded me a little bit of Elbow. But
35:53
Speaker 11: everybody said to me in this cartoon, they were so
35:55
Speaker 11: worried about Sakima, and they said, where's the cat I
35:58
Speaker 11: left out?
35:59
Speaker 1: I left now? Where is the out?
36:00
Speaker 2: Oh?
36:00
Speaker 1: No, forgot it? Andy Burnham, Who's you're going to take over?
36:04
Speaker 11: King of the North?
36:05
Speaker 1: King of the North. But he also reminds me when
36:07
Speaker 1: I look at him, of Daniel Andrews. Similar glasses, similar
36:12
Speaker 1: sort of Look, let's turn our attention to a federal
36:15
Speaker 1: Australian politics. You're having a lot of fun with Albow
36:18
Speaker 1: at the moment. Yes. Now, he obviously when he looks
36:22
Speaker 1: in the mirror he sees who there.
36:25
Speaker 11: Are some similarities there, Pricey. You know, Starma won a
36:29
Speaker 11: huge majority, not like long ago, and he made a
36:32
Speaker 11: few sort of bad decisions and before you know it,
36:36
Speaker 11: he's gone.
36:37
Speaker 1: He's trying to wash off the warning signs.
36:38
Speaker 11: Albau is he, Well, he's trying and look.
36:41
Speaker 1: I can't read that. But that's about immigration.
36:44
Speaker 11: That's basically it. You win a huge landslide, you make
36:47
Speaker 11: a few bad decisions and then before you know it,
36:49
Speaker 11: you're out on your backside. Now always lucky. He had
36:52
Speaker 11: a great win, got his tax legislation through this week, unbelievably.
36:58
Speaker 1: So he's exaggerated. Nos a hint about telling Porky's is
37:03
Speaker 1: that what that is?
37:05
Speaker 11: Well, he did. He does have a history now, albo,
37:08
Speaker 11: I mean that knows is deliberately bigger.
37:09
Speaker 1: Now to help her, we've got to bring the national
37:12
Speaker 1: audience in. There's a little bridge in South Melbourne in Melbourne,
37:16
Speaker 1: Montacute Street Bridge, next to the South Melbourne Market. I
37:19
Speaker 1: drove under that bridge this morning. In fact, people keep
37:23
Speaker 1: getting their trucks jammed under there.
37:24
Speaker 11: It is so famous. It's got more heads than the guillotine.
37:28
Speaker 1: Our favorite premiere just center. She's driving a truck celebrating
37:35
Speaker 1: the fact that she's now paid five hundred and eighty
37:37
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, making her the highest paid premiere
37:40
Speaker 1: in Australia.
37:42
Speaker 11: So she's basically the remuneration tribunal. They said they acted
37:48
Speaker 11: with restraint and only gave them what is it, three
37:50
Speaker 11: point five percent yes, which took her to the highest
37:55
Speaker 11: paid premiere.
37:55
Speaker 1: In the land.
37:56
Speaker 11: Unfortunately, we are the lowest performing state. So that's where
38:00
Speaker 11: the Montague Street Bridge elergy comes in.
38:03
Speaker 1: I was going to I thought it was that the
38:05
Speaker 1: truck was so full of money that it got stuck
38:08
Speaker 1: under the bridge.
38:09
Speaker 8: Well, people see.
38:10
Speaker 11: The great thing about cartooning is people see different things
38:13
Speaker 11: they do. You see one thing, I see something I do.
38:15
Speaker 1: So we also had Jim Chalmers featured this week and
38:19
Speaker 1: he's been asked a lot of questions about the treasurer
38:22
Speaker 1: and his qualifications because you know, you've got to be
38:25
Speaker 1: someone who's got a financial background to run the country.
38:28
Speaker 1: You will think, you think, But whenever you look at
38:30
Speaker 1: any of these treasurers, they all went to university. And
38:34
Speaker 1: I think Jim Chalmers did a PhD on Paul Keating.
38:37
Speaker 11: I think his thesis was on that. It was political science.
38:40
Speaker 11: I think he's a degree, but people are saying, where's
38:43
Speaker 11: your economics degree? And there was a great little story
38:45
Speaker 11: this week at Deacon University in Melbourne where they had,
38:47
Speaker 11: you know, the graduation day. Unfortunately, all the certificates were
38:52
Speaker 11: signed by the ex chancellor and they had to scrap.
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Speaker 1: Them, well because they weren't valid.
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Speaker 11: Well they weren't, no, I think because he resigned. Yeah,
39:01
Speaker 11: you so they had to give them fake ones like
39:04
Speaker 11: blank blank degrees or empty envelopes.
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Speaker 1: And I thought, yeah, well Jim looks pretty happy with him.
39:11
Speaker 11: Maybe that's where Jim Chalmer's got his economics degree from.
39:14
Speaker 1: Now, bird flu, that's a very serious topic if it
39:17
Speaker 1: gets in here. I'm very worried about that. I think
39:20
Speaker 1: what we had now four cases, three in WA and one.
39:22
Speaker 11: And there's a lot of landing in South Australia.
39:24
Speaker 1: Now, so these are migratory birds that fly down to
39:28
Speaker 1: the Antarctic and back. Why they want to do that,
39:31
Speaker 1: I'm not quite too sure, but I'm not a bird guy.
39:34
Speaker 11: But go to Bali and we come back.
39:36
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, that's a good point. You've combined the news
39:39
Speaker 1: of the day, bird flu and the cold sweat one
39:42
Speaker 1: nation just giving the major parties, that's a very complicated
39:45
Speaker 1: This is called conflation price. You bring various blain this
39:49
Speaker 1: to me, Well, look at these poor birds land on
39:52
Speaker 1: the beach, and they are basically at the mercy of
39:55
Speaker 1: this fire.
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Speaker 11: They've been at the mercy of this virus. There's a
39:58
Speaker 11: political virus going around in Australia at the moment. It's
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Speaker 11: one nation and the major parties they are coming to
40:07
Speaker 11: the virus. And so I've just I've put two or
40:10
Speaker 11: two together and I've got these these two lane ducks
40:14
Speaker 11: hop the beach and they are suffering from the one
40:17
Speaker 11: nation virus.
40:18
Speaker 1: And clever, very clever. My column this week's about Elizabeth Street,
40:23
Speaker 1: which is a main street next to the Flinder Street
40:26
Speaker 1: station in Melbourne. Yes, and it's a dreadful piece of
40:30
Speaker 1: I mean there's homeless people, there's drug addicts.
40:32
Speaker 11: I was there today and it's just a mess.
40:35
Speaker 1: There's just and we keep my point in this column
40:38
Speaker 1: was about and I know you've drawn a cartoon for it,
40:41
Speaker 1: but the politicians, whether they be the Lord mayor Nick
40:44
Speaker 1: Greece or the Premiere or whoever, keep promising they're going
40:48
Speaker 1: to clean it up, going all the way back, going
40:51
Speaker 1: back ten years, no one's ever cleaned it up.
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Speaker 11: Well, I love the column. And in Melbourne we have
40:56
Speaker 11: the Paris end of Colin Street, which is very famous
40:59
Speaker 11: part of Melbourne yet Parliament.
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Speaker 1: How's beautiful?
41:01
Speaker 11: After eating your colin? We now have the embarrass end.
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Speaker 1: Of Oh I love it, Elizabeth Street. I can see
41:07
Speaker 1: that in the paper tomorrow. You can good on. Thank
41:10
Speaker 1: you to see you in a couple of weeks. Time.
41:11
Speaker 1: Mark Knight, how good is he come out after the break?
41:15
Speaker 1: The sacking of Karl Stefanovic. Does it mark a return
41:19
Speaker 1: for cancel culture plus? First the Victorian Allen government, now
41:23
Speaker 1: the labor backed unions are calling for an indigenous voice.
41:26
Speaker 1: Our Friday Night channel up next, welcome back to Price
41:33
Speaker 1: with You. We might need to cross live to our
41:36
Speaker 1: reporter Jack Naihoff who's at Melbourne Court where that so
41:40
Speaker 1: called isis bride has been granted bail. We're just waiting
41:45
Speaker 1: for her to leave the complex. But we'll go to
41:47
Speaker 1: our Friday Night panel. First executive director at the Samuel
41:50
Speaker 1: Griffith Society, Neia Slip and Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand.
41:54
Speaker 1: Welcome to you both. If we have to cut in,
41:56
Speaker 1: and we'll do it briefly, just to find out when
41:58
Speaker 1: this woman actually leaves. We got through to the knockout stage.
42:01
Speaker 1: Everyone's now an expert on football soccer. We drew with Paraguay.
42:07
Speaker 1: We now go to Dallas in eight days time. Joe.
42:10
Speaker 1: It was very very dourur game, wasn't it. It was
42:14
Speaker 1: a river game.
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Speaker 10: I run the editorial in tomorrow's paper that I don't
42:18
Speaker 10: think a whole nation of Australian sports junkies has ever
42:22
Speaker 10: been so wrapped to get a zero result at the end.
42:28
Speaker 4: Of their national team.
42:29
Speaker 10: But it was an incredible game. The soccer is absolutely
42:32
Speaker 10: dominated and I think we really needed to get through
42:35
Speaker 10: to the thirty two. I think it would have been
42:38
Speaker 10: a really big morale blow to the country at a
42:41
Speaker 10: time where it really doesn't need it.
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Speaker 1: We need the win. So it was great to see Mia.
42:46
Speaker 1: You're the youngest member of this panel by a very
42:48
Speaker 1: long way. What I love about this new soccer Who's
42:51
Speaker 1: team is they've got a whole lot of people, young
42:54
Speaker 1: blokes we've never heard of, who were just playing outstandingly.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Look, I think it's a great time for Australian soccer.
43:04
Speaker 5: And I will say I won't pretend to be any
43:06
Speaker 5: expert on the soccer about the soccer field, but it
43:09
Speaker 5: is a great time to be an Australian in a
43:11
Speaker 5: pub at the moment I was working walking to work
43:14
Speaker 5: at about ten am and they were just accues all
43:16
Speaker 5: around the block of Australians trying to get into a
43:19
Speaker 5: local pub. So it's a great time not only for
43:21
Speaker 5: our young soccer players, but also I think just young
43:24
Speaker 5: people around the country to really come together and actually
43:27
Speaker 5: celebrate something for once. So that's fantastic to see.
43:32
Speaker 1: Joe talking about Australians and pubs. Let's talk about Karl
43:35
Speaker 1: Stefanovic and I both know him pretty well and have
43:39
Speaker 1: spent time in pubs with him now no longer on
43:43
Speaker 1: the Today Show. One of the biggest stories of the week.
43:45
Speaker 1: He went and did this podcast with Tommy Robinson. Channel
43:49
Speaker 1: nine management have now decided that Karl needs to go.
43:55
Speaker 1: This is a question of free speech. They let him
43:57
Speaker 1: do the podcast and he was telling anyone who wanted
44:00
Speaker 1: to know who he was going to go on interview,
44:02
Speaker 1: including Robinson. So have they pulled the cord too early
44:05
Speaker 1: on him? Do you think?
44:07
Speaker 4: I think?
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Speaker 10: To be honest, I hate cancel culture, as you know,
44:10
Speaker 10: and I don't like the fact that, you know, another
44:12
Speaker 10: organization is being bullied or cowtowered by these sort of
44:15
Speaker 10: activist groups of saying, oh we're going to tell all
44:17
Speaker 10: your advertisers not to advertise with you. So I think
44:20
Speaker 10: that's a really nasty side to it. But to be honest,
44:23
Speaker 10: I think Carl wanted to be canceled. I think he
44:25
Speaker 10: was daring the network to sack him. I think it
44:28
Speaker 10: was clear that his heart wasn't really I mean, how
44:30
Speaker 10: could it be. How can your heart be in a
44:32
Speaker 10: show where you know that you're going to be gone
44:34
Speaker 10: at the end of the year. The podcast was obviously
44:38
Speaker 10: his passion. He's incredibly good at generating attention and controversy.
44:43
Speaker 10: He just does it absolutely. I seem to do it
44:45
Speaker 10: by accident. He does it just absolutely effortlessly. And I
44:49
Speaker 10: think he wanted to be set free and he's just recently,
44:52
Speaker 10: I think, posted a video saying I'm free, I'm finally free.
44:55
Speaker 10: So I think he's happy to be canceled.
44:58
Speaker 1: Mea the AC to you, what do you make of them?
45:01
Speaker 1: Buying back into the argument about an indigenous voice to Parliament,
45:04
Speaker 1: I mean, sixty percent of Australians voted no in the referendum.
45:10
Speaker 1: Every state voted no, and now the Peak Union movement
45:13
Speaker 1: is saying, oh no, no, no, no, we don't wear
45:17
Speaker 1: that decision. We need to go back and do this
45:19
Speaker 1: all again. I mean, what are they on about?
45:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's enough.
45:24
Speaker 1: Is enough?
45:25
Speaker 5: Is enough. We've had the debate, we heard both sides,
45:29
Speaker 5: and despite basically every corporate in Australia and all of
45:33
Speaker 5: the union groups throwing millions of dollars at THEES campaign
45:37
Speaker 5: to prosecute those arguments, still a majority of Australians voted
45:42
Speaker 5: no to the proposal that don't want it, and it
45:44
Speaker 5: was pretty much a landslide. So you can kind of
45:47
Speaker 5: see the frustration brewing when you have these union groups
45:50
Speaker 5: who are effectively now another arm of government with the
45:53
Speaker 5: amount of funding their receive and the power they wield
45:55
Speaker 5: over our government decisions, who are now prosecuting these ideas
46:01
Speaker 5: that Australians have definitively said they do not want. So
46:05
Speaker 5: I really do think the government needs to come out
46:08
Speaker 5: on this one and make the stands pretty clear and
46:10
Speaker 5: shut down this conversation and get these unions back in line.
46:15
Speaker 1: Joe, if my memory serves me correctly, you were on
46:18
Speaker 1: the yes side, and you proudly talked about it, and
46:22
Speaker 1: you prosecuted your case here on Sky unhindered, you know,
46:25
Speaker 1: not like you don't people down load that should we
46:30
Speaker 1: leave this alone now? Or is it? I mean, when
46:32
Speaker 1: you think about it in Victoria where me or and
46:34
Speaker 1: I are, I mean the state government here is introduced
46:37
Speaker 1: a treaty and they've basically established a third chamber of
46:40
Speaker 1: Parliament inhabited by indigenous elected representatives, only elected by other
46:46
Speaker 1: indigenous people. Should we leave this alone, leave it to
46:49
Speaker 1: the states? Yeah?
46:51
Speaker 10: If we do, If you're not going to respect the
46:52
Speaker 10: result of a referendum, and what is the point of
46:54
Speaker 10: having it. I did support the voice and I watched
46:58
Speaker 10: with horror as the left destroyed the campaign with endless
47:02
Speaker 10: acts of self harm throughout it. And to be honest,
47:06
Speaker 10: the ACTU I'm writing about this in tomorrow's paper. To
47:09
Speaker 10: do this now and try to reprosecute this case at
47:12
Speaker 10: the time when blue collar workers are deserting labor for
47:15
Speaker 10: one nation is not just an act of self harm.
47:18
Speaker 1: It is a death wish.
47:20
Speaker 10: We need to demonstrate that the ALP is the party
47:23
Speaker 10: of patriotism and they're saying we should move the date
47:26
Speaker 10: of Australia from January twenty sixth. We need to show
47:29
Speaker 10: that ALPS moving past stupid culture wars and obsessions with
47:32
Speaker 10: race and now they're saying we need the voice again.
47:34
Speaker 10: This is going to send more of their members and
47:37
Speaker 10: workers into the arms of one nation. It is insanity,
47:39
Speaker 10: so stupid it hurts.
47:42
Speaker 1: I'll read your piece tomorrow. Now you've both got hidden talents.
47:45
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I want to show you this. Two people,
47:47
Speaker 1: two people in Victoria this week, former Bulldog Bob Murphy.
47:51
Speaker 1: You now on ABC Radio singing a Beatles classic outside
47:55
Speaker 1: the Library of Victoria. Have a look at this Love
48:16
Speaker 1: Monica player playing the Carton theme song after they won.
48:20
Speaker 1: That was fantastic. Bob Murphy brought people to tears and
48:23
Speaker 1: I never thought I'd say that about anybody on the ABC.
48:26
Speaker 1: It was just fabulous, and that was his actual voice.
48:29
Speaker 1: They hired a a choir and a band behind him,
48:32
Speaker 1: and away he went and sang that song. And I
48:35
Speaker 1: just think it was a great highlight for us to
48:37
Speaker 1: finish on a positive one. What's been a pretty tough
48:39
Speaker 1: week for everybody. Mia Joe, thank you very much for
48:43
Speaker 1: joining us. We'll see you again next week. Now coming
48:45
Speaker 1: up after myself tonight, Peter Kredlin the best of her
48:48
Speaker 1: interviews out of the UK