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The Insiders Podcast: 3 Takeaways from Cowboys Offseason Workouts and Austin Ekeler Live in Studio · NFL Game Previews

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  Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders. I am Tom Pellisero. Seventy
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  Speaker 1: one days out from kickoff of the twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 1: NFL season, less than a month away from every single
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  Speaker 1: NFL team being reported to training camp and on the
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  Speaker 1: practice field again. Feel the excitement people right now, We
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  Speaker 1: got a jam Pack show for you tonight. Austin Eckler,
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  Speaker 1: former Charger now Commander's running back, is standing by in studio.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be on the show. Should you draft him in
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  Speaker 1: the first round in your fantasy league. We'll ask him
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  Speaker 1: that and a lot of other, perhaps more important things.
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  Speaker 1: Mister irrelevant Jalen Key also is going to be on
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  Speaker 1: the show. We'll talk some Patriots, some Panthers, some Saints,
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  Speaker 1: some Steelers, a whole lot more. But let's start out
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  Speaker 1: in Dallas. We're one of the biggest looming questions before
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  Speaker 1: training camps open and the Cowboys report to Oksnard less
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  Speaker 1: than a month away their first practice on July twenty fifth.
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  Speaker 1: Is the future of Dak Prescott. He is, of course,
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  Speaker 1: headed into the final year of his contract. Can they
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  Speaker 1: get a deal done? Is he potentially going to hit
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  Speaker 1: the free agent market in twenty twenty five? For more
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  Speaker 1: on all things Cowboys. Let's go to Dallas our friend
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  Speaker 1: Jane Slater along with Bucky Brooks as well. Jane, quite frankly,
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  Speaker 1: we've had this Dak conversation many, many, many times. You've
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  Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in the offseason observing other
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  Speaker 1: things on the practice field. We'll talk Dak. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: very curious, as you sit back here and think about
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys less than a month away from training camp,
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  Speaker 1: what are some of the big things they're standing out
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  Speaker 1: in your mind?
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  Speaker 2: Tom, I really do appreciate the pass on this one, because, yes,
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  Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about those contracts, and we'll be
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  Speaker 2: talking a lot more about them as we lead up
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  Speaker 2: to camp. I will tell you everything is quiet in
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  Speaker 2: Dallas except for the big splash that is the Dallas
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys Chiller documentary on Netflix. Check it out. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: as I'm sitting here, I'm thinking about some of the
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  Speaker 2: off season workouts and some of the storylines. I find
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  Speaker 2: myself thinking about a lot of things. And one of
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  Speaker 2: the things that I've been thinking about Tom is and again,
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  Speaker 2: I want to make sure that this segment is not
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  Speaker 2: sourced information. No one is telling me these things, but
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  Speaker 2: just given the fact I've covered this team for over
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  Speaker 2: a decade, the things that I'm thinking about start with
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  Speaker 2: the running back position. We keep hearing that the Cowboys
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  Speaker 2: are going to do this whole running back by committee. Well,
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  Speaker 2: they kind of tried that last year. Remember, even though
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  Speaker 2: they brought Tony Pollard back in to be their main guy.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't quite work out. So lo and behold, they
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  Speaker 2: go out and they get Ezekiel Elliott. Now a lot
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  Speaker 2: of you might be sitting there going, well, does Ezekiel
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  Speaker 2: Elliott still have jews? He does, folks. He had three touchdowns,
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  Speaker 2: fifty one receptions in a little over eight hundred yards
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  Speaker 2: on the ground. After he was splitting the role in
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  Speaker 2: New England, he wanted out. So I truly believe they
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  Speaker 2: can say committee all day, but he's going to have
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  Speaker 2: the bulk of the workload. I mean, when I went
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  Speaker 2: back and looked at some of the numbers of the
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  Speaker 2: guys in the depth chart, we're talking or Lecky Juice, Fawn, Malinite,
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  Speaker 2: Davis Snoop, Connor Lepki has six carries nineteen yards in
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  Speaker 2: a touchdown. Jus has twenty three yards forty carries, and
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  Speaker 2: they've been working in the slot receiver role Malink Davis
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  Speaker 2: didn't even play last year and rinc O'donald two touchdowns
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  Speaker 2: in three years and three hundred and eighty five yards
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  Speaker 2: in the same span. Now, they did go out and
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  Speaker 2: get Royce Freeman. He's a big body back, but she'd
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  Speaker 2: really have to go all the way back to twenty
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  Speaker 2: nineteen to see him really make a difference on the field, Bucky,
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  Speaker 2: what say you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, Jane, thanks for tipping off about America's Sweethearts
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  Speaker 3: because I have vnpaying attention. And Zeke Elliott's story reminds
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  Speaker 3: me of some of the ladies on.
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  Speaker 4: The show that got cut.
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  Speaker 3: Then they come back, they continue to be on the
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  Speaker 3: team and made big contributions. That's what the Cowboys accounting
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  Speaker 3: on Zeke Elliott to do. They may not say that,
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  Speaker 3: but the veteran running back is clearly head and shoulders
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  Speaker 3: above the other running backs in the room. That means
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  Speaker 3: that when it comes down to clutch time, the ball
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  Speaker 3: is going to be in Zeke Elliott's hands. And although
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  Speaker 3: he has lost a little bit, he's not this easter
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  Speaker 3: that he once was. He may not still be the
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  Speaker 3: fact that could give you fifteen hundred yards. He certainly
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  Speaker 3: is a viable start and running back. And in this
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  Speaker 3: office where trust with Dek Prescott is everything, bringing Zeke
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  Speaker 3: Elliott back certainly helps the Dallas Cowboys get back on
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  Speaker 3: track and chars a running the football effectively when they
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  Speaker 3: need to run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: And he's been emphasized to me this was not a
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  Speaker 1: nostalgia signing by the Cowboys. When they dug into the
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  Speaker 1: tape last year from New England the back half of
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  Speaker 1: the season, when Ramandri Stevenson was banged up, Zeke was
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  Speaker 1: carrying more than load. He finally had his legs underneath him.
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  Speaker 1: This very much looked like the Zeke that they've seen
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  Speaker 1: in the past. So all right, I got that Jane
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  Speaker 1: draft Zeke, and fancy give me something else? What else
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  Speaker 1: is percolating in that Brady years on the Cowboys. Ah.
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  Speaker 2: I did some evaluating of Trayvon Diggs. He looks really
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  Speaker 2: good on the courts office the side. Remember he had
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  Speaker 2: that devastating ACL injury at the beginning of last year. Now,
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  Speaker 2: to the credit of some of the cornerbacks, we saw
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  Speaker 2: really good play from like Jaron Blan and Stefan Gilmore.
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  Speaker 2: But I think getting Trayvon Diggs back here. They're going
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  Speaker 2: to slow play him, so I don't expect them to
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  Speaker 2: rush him at camp, especially when you see some of
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  Speaker 2: the limitations some people sometimes have with the ACL injury.
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  Speaker 2: But add Jordan Lewis, who they re signed back to
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  Speaker 2: the mix, Jern Bland, nay Sean Wright, this could be
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  Speaker 2: a really good group. But Bucky Stephan Gilmore is still
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  Speaker 2: out there now. I know that there were times and
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  Speaker 2: there were some questions about Gilmore and his play. I
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  Speaker 2: thought he had some really nice flashes and the if
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  Speaker 2: you've got Trayvon Digs back, this cornerbacks group can be
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  Speaker 2: really special. You taking a flyer and bringing him back in.
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  Speaker 3: So here's the thing, Jay, what you normally do when
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  Speaker 3: you're in front office a deck, you wait to the
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  Speaker 3: last minute. You want to give all the young guys
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  Speaker 3: you talked about no Sean Right and some of the
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  Speaker 3: other young guys every opportunity in training camp to see
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  Speaker 3: if they can dazzle and if they're up to the task. Normally,
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  Speaker 3: it's after that first preseason game when you see how
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  Speaker 3: those guys kind of look in live action, you make
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  Speaker 3: a decision whether you need to pick.
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  Speaker 4: Up the phone call.
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  Speaker 3: Stephan Gilmore because you're not confident that they're going to
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  Speaker 3: handle the responsibilities of being in the rotation. I am
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  Speaker 3: sure the Cowboys have kept touch, kept the relationship going
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  Speaker 3: with Stephan Gilmore. But this is about going to training
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  Speaker 3: camp see if the young guys are up to the task,
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  Speaker 3: and if they're not, then picking up the phone call.
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  Speaker 4: And Stephan Gilmore.
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  Speaker 3: But they know he's in shape, they know he's ready,
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  Speaker 3: they know he can get ready in a moment's notice.
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  Speaker 3: They want to give the young guys every opportunity to play.
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  Speaker 1: And if Stefan Gilmore is playing in twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: which I anticipate, then he will be. He's doing it
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  Speaker 1: for one reason, which is go try to win a
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, polish that Hall of Fame resume. It's not
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  Speaker 1: just about going somewhere and taking the highest offer of
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys on the short list of teams that could
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  Speaker 1: potentially give him that opportunity. All Right, one more Jade,
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  Speaker 1: one more big Cowboys idea. You're cooking up? What is it?
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  Speaker 4: All Right?
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  Speaker 2: I want to go ahead and put a massive disclaimer
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  Speaker 2: on this because I'm putting on my analyst role, my
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  Speaker 2: percolating in my head role. This is not anything that
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  Speaker 2: I'm hearing inside the buildings. So I'm talking to to
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  Speaker 2: you aggregators and new bloggers, you know who you are.
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  Speaker 2: When it's a slow off season. What's been going on
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  Speaker 2: in my head.
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  Speaker 1: I got to stop him, Dade, you know, can't stop him.
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  Speaker 1: You can only hope you gain them.
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  Speaker 2: But what I will say is, you know, I've been
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  Speaker 2: thinking a little bit about this Dak Prescott Dallas Cowboys thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I as we continue moving towards this thing,
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  Speaker 2: there's a part of me that thinks this thing's gonna
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  Speaker 2: get done close to the camp as they always do.
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  Speaker 2: We always see this gazemanship like Ezekiel Ellett a couple
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  Speaker 2: of years ago, we're not paying him Todd Curly money
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  Speaker 2: and then they sure as heck did it. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: wondering if the X factor here is Dak. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: Dak's like, you know, I'm going to sit here, see
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  Speaker 2: how I play and see what the market bears. A
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  Speaker 2: Lah Kirk Cousins. I mean, it's worked out for Kirk Cousins.
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  Speaker 2: Then I start hearing this Trey Lance is becoming a
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  Speaker 2: master of the playbook. So this idea that I had
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  Speaker 2: in my head because you can only play quarterbacks so
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  Speaker 2: long at the sixty million dollar a year ap y
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  Speaker 2: in order to have a really good team around them.
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  Speaker 2: We keep them mind, we still got to pay Steedee
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  Speaker 2: Lamb here in Dallas. You got to play Micah Parsons.
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  Speaker 2: Then you've got guys behind him coming up. Is there
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  Speaker 2: a way that the Cowboys could slow play this Trey
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  Speaker 2: Lance thing? In other words, roll them out in the preseason,
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  Speaker 2: don't show him the rest of the year. This is again,
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  Speaker 2: if Dak decides that he's going to play this thing out,
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  Speaker 2: then you get to the end of the season. Do
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  Speaker 2: the Cowboys convince themselves we're going to roll out Trey
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  Speaker 2: Lance because Dak Prescott was a fourth round guy that
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  Speaker 2: we picked to is fourth on the depth chart, and
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  Speaker 2: we's got to put pieces around him. And then they
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  Speaker 2: go to Trey Lance because they haven't shown a lot
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  Speaker 2: of him, and they say, well, it's hard to decide
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  Speaker 2: what your market value is. I think a lot of
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  Speaker 2: teams would struggle with what is Trey Lance's market value,
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  Speaker 2: and then they could give them a Baker Mayfield type
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  Speaker 2: of deal. Now, again, I don't know if any of
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  Speaker 2: this is going to happen. I've sort of kicked this
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  Speaker 2: around with some of the guys that cover the beat,
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  Speaker 2: but I think this is going to be interesting to
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  Speaker 2: see how this whole thing plays out. I mean, Trey
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  Speaker 2: Lance has looked, I think, pretty sharp in the off season.
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  Speaker 2: He's got Patrick Mahomes quarterbacks coach. But there's just a
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  Speaker 2: big question mark on Trey Lance because we just haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen anything of them now. Again, this is all a
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  Speaker 2: big if I'm not hearing this in the building. I
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  Speaker 2: just wonder if the Cowboys might find ways to convince
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  Speaker 2: themselves to do.
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  Speaker 4: Something like that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's percolating in my head.
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  Speaker 3: Look, Jane, I like the percolator, and what I would
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  Speaker 3: say is both things could be true at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: Dak Prescott certainly could be playing this out to kind
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  Speaker 3: of chase a bag like Kirk Cousins, because he knows
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  Speaker 3: the value of the market is never going to go down.
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  Speaker 3: It's only going to go up no matter how he
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  Speaker 3: plays this year, he is going to get paid in
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  Speaker 3: a major way. But for the Cowboys and Trey Lance, look,
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  Speaker 3: it may be a smart observation. Remember this, there are
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  Speaker 3: a lot of questions about Jordan Love and I'm not
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  Speaker 3: saying that Trey Lance is going to be the next
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Love, but remember the conversation about Jordan Love.
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  Speaker 4: When Jordan Love played.
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  Speaker 3: There were a lot of people, naysayers that didn't think
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  Speaker 3: that Jordan Love would be a really, really good player.
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  Speaker 3: After you played a start or two for the Green
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  Speaker 3: Bay Packers and Trey Lance, what you have is a
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  Speaker 3: former first round pick that has been reared up under
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  Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy for the last going on a year and
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  Speaker 3: a half. This gives Mike McCartney an opportunity to really
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  Speaker 3: see what he is, see what his potential could be.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm sure they've had some conversations about what do
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  Speaker 3: you think the end game is for Trey Lance. So
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  Speaker 3: if Trey Lance has an opportunity to play, maybe Dak
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  Speaker 3: Prescott has a sprain ankle gives Trey Lance the opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to have a start or two. I think you could
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  Speaker 3: make a case that maybe we move forward with the
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  Speaker 3: young guy, continued to build a team around him and
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  Speaker 3: give Trey Lance the opportunity to take the baton for
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  Speaker 3: Dak Prescott. So, yes, I do believe that conversation has
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  Speaker 3: been had in the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 1: Office There's not a lot of coaches you want around
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  Speaker 1: a young quarterback more than Mike McCarthy in terms of
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  Speaker 1: the way that he's taught quarterbacks going back for decades now.
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  Speaker 1: I also know how much the Cowboys like and value
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  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott in that building. I do believe there is
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  Speaker 1: a possibility they could work something out with Dak prior
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  Speaker 1: to training camp or at least the regular season. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see whether or not that actually comes to fruition. Bucky,
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  Speaker 1: don't move. We'll be back with you, perkol Slater appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you as always elsewhere in the Nfseast, Remember the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: were running away with that division. They beat the Cowboys,
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  Speaker 1: it was all over, and then two teams went in
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  Speaker 1: divergent directions. Lane Johnson was on this show a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days ago talking about the new offense with Kellen Moore.
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  Speaker 1: Some things are going to be changed up for us.
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  Speaker 1: Is that going to help Jalen Hurts get back on
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  Speaker 1: top of his game? For more on that, let's bring
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  Speaker 1: in our friend Stacy Dales. We know this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a vastly different offense, Stacy than what we've
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  Speaker 1: seen from the Eagles in the past. How are they
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  Speaker 1: going to gear that around Jalen Hurts and what's the
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  Speaker 1: next level in his developments this thing moves forward.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's such a great question, Tom, And I'm glad
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  Speaker 5: you mentioned last season, right you reminded all of us.
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  Speaker 5: They win ten of their first eleven games going to
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  Speaker 5: December like they're the number one lock.
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  Speaker 2: They lose six of their next seven games. What happened
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  Speaker 2: to the Eagles?
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  Speaker 5: Maybe there was some friction there, especially with that offense
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  Speaker 5: for Jalen Hurts. What they're going to do putting it
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  Speaker 5: very simple as really open up the field for him.
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  Speaker 2: With Kellen Moore, it's been fascinating.
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  Speaker 5: The number one story we talked about percolating with these
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  Speaker 5: Eagles this offseason is Nick Sirianni, the head coach, the
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  Speaker 5: offensive offensive brain work that has been in Philadelphia, handing
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  Speaker 5: over this offense now to the man you are seeing
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  Speaker 5: on your screen that is Kellen Moore, former Chargers offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 5: former Cowboys. We just heard from Jane and bucking on
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  Speaker 5: the Cowboys offensive coordinator, quarterbacks coach. He's been around and
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  Speaker 5: so what he's going to do is he's going to
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  Speaker 5: come in first and foremost. I believe Saquon Barkley was
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  Speaker 5: not a fluke Tom, and have a certifiable approach at
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  Speaker 5: the run game.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start there. That's going to be important.
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  Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts last season had the most passing attempts in
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  Speaker 5: his career. He also had the most passing touchdowns, but
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  Speaker 5: he also had the most interceptions. We saw all those
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  Speaker 5: numbers go up. I think they really do actually want
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  Speaker 5: to run the ball, starting with Saquon in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to have more movement.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to have more motion, and they're really going
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  Speaker 5: to open up, as I'm alluded to, the entire field.
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  Speaker 5: We saw it condensed to half the field if you
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  Speaker 5: go back and watch some of the tape from last season,
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  Speaker 5: and I've talked to a couple people around the organization.
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  Speaker 5: Open up the field for Jalen Hurts. I think he's
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  Speaker 5: going to have more freedom and Tom. You know how
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  Speaker 5: talented they are offensively with those receivers, the tight end
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  Speaker 5: and Goddard, and of course the running back room is
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  Speaker 5: pretty good too, and that offensive line in Jeff Stotland,
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  Speaker 5: we trust flip.
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  Speaker 1: Side of things. On defense, Stacey, I think this is
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  Speaker 1: one of maybe the undersold storylines the entire offseason because
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  Speaker 1: they bring back Yx Fangio. Things could not have gone
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: much worse in Miami for Vic Fangio in that team Meschine.
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  Speaker 1: We've heard players talk about they didn't like his scheme,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't like how he treated players. But Philadelphia knows him.
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  Speaker 1: Vick was there consulting on the Super Bowl season team.
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  Speaker 1: They had one of his disciples, Sean Desai, trying to
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  Speaker 1: run the same scheme last year. It didn't go well.
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  Speaker 1: You look at the personnel changes, attitude changes. What do
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  Speaker 1: you expect on d in Philadelphia?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's super old school Vic spin around.
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  Speaker 5: He started his professional career in Philadelphia, so he's bringing
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  Speaker 5: it on back, right, And when you think about I
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  Speaker 5: had a fun conversation, Hey, you think about Jean Decai
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  Speaker 5: didn't go right. They actually demoted him during the season.
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  Speaker 5: Matt Patricia took over the play calling duties. It's kind
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  Speaker 5: of like a cook in a kitchen, right, you try
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  Speaker 5: to get that recipe down, get the Vic Fangio recipe.
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  Speaker 5: You mentioned Desi was a disciple of Fangio's. But now
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  Speaker 5: the actual head chef is coming into the mix. And
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  Speaker 5: what he's coming into is an opportunity Tom because that
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  Speaker 5: was the thirtieth scoring defense in the NFL, the thirty
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  Speaker 5: first passing defense. I believe they give up the second
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  Speaker 5: most passing touchdowns in the NFL and thirty first on
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  Speaker 5: third down. They were just really bad across the board. Defensively,
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  Speaker 5: they're going to look different. A guy that you shouldn't
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  Speaker 5: just expect to have a breakout season in his second year,
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  Speaker 5: but he needs to is Jalen Carter with that defensive
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  Speaker 5: front which looks much different now, and the secondary. I
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  Speaker 5: think the secondary. Keep an eye on them, Tom. They're
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  Speaker 5: very competitive. Couple new faces back but Quinnon Mitchell their
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  Speaker 5: first rounder, and then of course Cooper de jen who
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  Speaker 5: they took in the second round. It's an interesting group
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  Speaker 5: back there. I think super competitive. Could be the most
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: improved positional group with that defense.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Another new coordinator, Clint Kubiak going to New Orleans with
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Derek Carr. How's that going to work out? Stick around States.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that in just a little
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: bit here, but for now, let's stay in the NFC
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: East because you know what we got coming up right
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: after this. It's that guy, Austin Eckler. He is the
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: thirty nine touchdowns in two seasons with the Chargers before
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: we fed a little bit differently in twenty twenty three.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Which version of Austin Eckler are we going to get
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, we'll ask give me my to
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: answer that very question for your fantasy team and more
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: on the inside.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: Good boy, oh boys, crack so Corey, go ahead and
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: talk to me out there.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Nothing crazy, think I'd be saying. Man, the play is
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: happening within a fundamentals. We already know that. Let's get
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: it beat all right, Whe's the.
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: Inside the one hand off the actler p b right
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: by with man. Let's fights like try boat.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: Waity one, yep, nice show, wait around, I think day.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Let's keep going. Let's keep the market running. Game again.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: This time it's actler and he's gotta lay to the
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: forty breaks away thirty twenty five, stiff arm all the
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: way inside the tent.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: He guess I know, I know I would sniff arm
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: and down there while I was running.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: We appreciate all, appreciate. I appreciate that I appreciate it.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Sixty nine touchdowns over seven seasons in a Chargers uniform
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: for Austin Eckler We've now got a new one. That's
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: that right there, is going to take a little bit
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: of getting used to. And I hope that he doesn't
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: think that the Washington Commanders actually play in Washington based
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: on that White House backdrop right there. Austin Eckler joining
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: the show right now. Appreciate you being here. Man. First
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: of all, I have to keep reminding myself it's Commander's
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: running back, Austin Eckler, Commander's running back. Have you slipped?
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Are you fully mentally a Washington commander at this point?
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: It is?
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: It has definitely taken some getting used to for myself
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: as well, just because you know, that's where I was at.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm actually you know, out next to so
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: far right now, and so it brings back the old
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: memories and that's that's where I.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Got my beginning.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: So it'll eventually, you know, just like we moved from
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: San Diego to LA It'll eventually catch on with me.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: And yeah, I'm Washington commander now. So I'm loud. I'm
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: proud about it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Unless anybody think that there's something going on here. You're
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: out there for the branding and social workshop that the
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: NFL puts on. What kind of stuff that they have
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you guys doing, What are you learning?
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is some good stuff. You know.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: The NFL platform is obviously massive and provides a lot
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: of value not only on the field, but in other
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: opportunities as well. And so we're learning how to you know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: basically put ourselves in a position to know partner with
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: the brand that we might like, and so also meeting
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: some of the league partners as well. So it's a
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: great time to network, to meet people, to learn, learn
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: for some legends. And so it's it's been a good
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: event so far.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: During this little in the middle of this little break
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: here between Mini camp and training camp. But you've had
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: a couple of months around the guys on your new team.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Everything's new there from dan Quinn, the Jayden Daniels holding
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the vibes around that commander.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: Man talk about a vibe like that, that is exactly
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: what it is. So I haven't had any experience with
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: dan Quinn before before I got out to the commanders.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: And when I say.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: This man talks about brotherhood, he is brotherhood like he
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: is about it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: He wants to hear examples.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: He's going to show you what it is, what it's not,
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: and so it's been an amazing experience. And as we know,
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: culture starts from the top down, and so him implementing
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: that culture and then it just continues to expand to
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: people like myself who implement it with the young guys
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: and the energy that he brings. We have this drill
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: that we do before every practice.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: It's the bag.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Drill, and everyone is required to go through it, big energy,
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: get yourself hyped up, and that's how we start out practice,
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: and so it just goes through the rest of the
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: rest of the day for us.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: So it's been amazing.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: What about the personnel. You look around, You're coming from
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a very talented Chargers team from justin Herbert on down.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Now you've got a rookie quarterback. You got a mix
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: of veterans and young guys there.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: What type of team do you think you have it?
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Don't be downplaying. I feel like there's some downplay there.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: Like, you know, you come from a really talented team
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: over here, Now you're going to a rookie Like I
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: don't want to hear any of that because we got
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: a stud in Daniels. He's an absolute stud out there
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: slinging it. I've loved his leadership that he's shown early on.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: You know, he's texting me about routes, he's calling me
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: out in practice, Hey, this is what we need to
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: do on.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: This or what did you see on this choice route?
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: And so he's got all of the right stuff that
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: i'd love to see from from a quarterback that he's
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: been bringing out in the first couple couple of weeks
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: that I've met him.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: And so I'm looking forward to his growth.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: And we have a lot of veterans, you know, like
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: you mentioned that we brought in to help set the culture.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: And so it's been as you mentioned, it's been a vibe.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: And so yeah, I don't want you to look it's
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: a no, it's a new year. I don't know what
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: happened here last year. I do, but that's last year.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: This is a whole new year.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And have you gone back and watched any Jaden Daniels highlights.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I know you're busy on weekends in the fall, but
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: in college, I mean, he does some hilacious things with
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: his arm and his legs. He also takes hits, like
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: even you don't take hits, he gets absolutely crushed. Is
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: there some levels there?
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, dude, we.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Need you here for seven show.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: But guess what, Hey, he was in college. He got
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: away with that in college. Now he's in a new
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: atmosphere in the NFL. Look, you're not going to be
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: able to get away with that. You know a lot
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: we've seen that play itself out, you know, over time
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: with with quarterbacks in general. Right, that's why they have
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: all these rules where you know, you got to you can't.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: You can't touch these guys anymore, right, And so leave
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: the running, leave all that stuff to the professionals like
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: myself who know how to get hit and things like that,
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: and take care of our bodies because you've got to
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: be able to throw it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: You're a dynamic player.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: So I'm going to be looking forward to seeing him
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: scramble make plays on the fly. We know how exciting
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: that is in this game. You know, we've seen the Mahomes.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: We've seen you know, the you know the Josh Allen's
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: that go out there and do it, you know Lamar Jackson's,
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: and so Jane's gonna be right there with them too,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: going and making plays and being that playmaker for us.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Again, you've only seen him in a non padded not
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: getting hit setting but you mentioned some of the best
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: playmakers in the game, guys like the Ragning NFL MVP Lamar.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Do you see that type of playmaking ability, that innate
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: sense of how to do it in Gendele.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: It's tough, it really is, because there's there's playmaking in
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: in lots of versions of their game. You know, you
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: can look at my last quarterback, Justin Herbert right like
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: he's not Lamar, but Lamar's not him either. They have
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: their own way of being studs out there. And that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: why football so great is you get such a just
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: a diverse landscape of different people that can just go
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: and get the job done. And that's what matters. Are
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: you getting the job done. It don't matter how you
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: do it, is it done. And so that's what we're
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: going to see. I love how he's starting out the
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: foot that he's been going on right now. I think
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: he's going down the right path. Obviously we haven't had
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: pads on or anything like that, so time will tell.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: But I'm going to be in the backfield with him,
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: helping him every minute of the way, and so are
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: other veterans.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: You go back to twenty one and twenty twenty two, seasons.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: There's probably he made like one of those pie charts,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: like a Venn diagram. There'd be a huge overlap between
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: one Fantasy Championship and had Austin Eckler on their roster
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: going to Washington. We know Brian Robinson was the Belkow
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: there last year. What type of production, What version of
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Austin Eckler are the Commanders and everybody who's drafting you
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: in Fantasy getting there?
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: I mean you're gonna get the best version of myself always,
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: no matter what. But here's where there's been like this
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: controversy out there, like, oh, Austin said he does want
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: three hundred carries, because that's what the Chargers said, you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: they wanted it back to be able to do it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: I've never had that many carries ever, So I don't know.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: Why everyone's in an uproar of like, oh, Austin doesn't
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: want to touch the ball. No, it's not that I
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: don't want to touch the ball. Is the way that
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: I've had the most production is when I'm able to split.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: Was when I'm able to split between catching and running
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: the ball like that is when I've been the most
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: productive down in the red zone. Right out in the
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: field when I can have both of those.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Types of environments.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: And now with Brian Robinson being in the backfield, also
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: my old head coach, you know, Anthony Lynn, where I
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: first got my start and first started finding success, is
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: also my running back coach and utilizes us, is going
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: to utilize us probably in that same type of ways
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: what it's looking like. And so I'm going to be
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: right back to my roots of when I would continue
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: to have success and continue to build on that in
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: the way that fits Austin Neckler the most. And so
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: just I'm glad you let me clear that out because
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: you know, I wanted to address that for a while.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: Everyone's like, what do you mean you don't want touch
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: it three hundred times a game. I've never had three
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: hundred carries in a season.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: So just to be abundantly clear, I'm or may not be.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: In a couple of fantasy leagues, I should take Austin
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Eckler in the first round of the fantasy draft.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, yes, let me ask you this.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, And I guess it's a
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: little tough because in the fantasy world you're judged off
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: your last season.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: But as far as consistency. Right, As far as consistency,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: what I've been.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: Healthy, Yes, last year, you know I missed like four
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: games high ankle, sprain, come back, spray my other ankle.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: But what Austin Eckler.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Has been healthy on the field, he has produced, And
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: so that's the same thing going forward here. Hey, if
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: I'm healthy, I'm gonna be on the field, I'm gonna
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: be producing. And you've seen what it looks like when
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: I produce, So you're gonna want me on your team.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: One another thing I've always enjoyed about watching the Austin
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: is somebody who dabbles in the guitar. That celebration, that's
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: your signature every time did you get into the end zone.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: But I was thinking about this this morning. Okay, you've
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: been in La There's a great history there of like
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: skate punk, surf punk typesacts. Obviously a lot of the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: hard rock, the guns n' roses the world in the eighties.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Now you're going to the East Coast. It's a little
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: bit different and feel there. Have you been listening to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: some fugazi, some bad Brains, minor threat giving yourself some
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: ideas of what the vibe needs to be on that
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: guitar celebration.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: Look, look, I know they have a different culture, you know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: out there, but you know I bring I bring with
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: what I've had in the path with me. You know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: I got to bring the same my same vibe with
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: me where I go because that's what I know, that's
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: what has allowed me to make an impact. So you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: you know, try I'm down to try some things here
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: and there, so you know, I'll dabble into see what's
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: going on in the rock scene out there on the
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: East Coast, but I stick true to what I've known.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Listen to Waiting Room. I think the I think you'll
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: enjoy that song. Last thing for you. You know you
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: said you accuse me of downplaying the talent. You got
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it washed and so I'll give you the floor on this.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Everybody's going to look at it as the Cowboys and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the Eagles. Cowboys won the division last year. The Eagles
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: were one of the top teams in the league until
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: things kind of came apart for them down the stretch.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Give me the best case, give me the pitch for
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: why the Commanders if you believe this could compete to
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: win the NFC East in twenty twenty four.
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: To me, it's not even about that. It's not even
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: about look NFC East, not about the super Bowl. It's
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: about what we have right now in the locker room.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: It's about us, Like I can't even see that far
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: out right. For me, it is how do we establish
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: a culture that brings the team together like that? That
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: is the phase that we're in right now. We're about
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: to go into OTA. So we're about to move into
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: the next phase, which is, hey, are we able to
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: operate now with what we've established in the OTA's time?
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: And so now it's like, okay, let's go to phase two.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: I'm not thinking I'm not thinking super Bowl. I'm thinking,
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: how can we become the best, the best team possible
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: right now while we're just together with each other because
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: we got a lot of new pieces, we got a
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: lot of new parts. I don't care about what happened
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: last year. You know, we're judged, that's how we're judged
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: in this league, absolutely on what you did for me late.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: What have you done for me lately?
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Well, that's in the past. We have a new opportunity
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: as a team to move forward.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: So I'm not going to sit up here and say
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: this is what we're going to go do. I don't
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: I don't care what we're going to go do.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: In the future.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: Right now, I'm focused on now and focus on right
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: now because that is going to lead to what goes
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: on in the future, which is what we want to do. Yes,
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: we want to go into wrecks and to win games,
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: but it doesn't matter unless you take care of the
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: opportunity right now, which is build the culture, build everyone up,
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: as far as being a good teammate, being bought into
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: some type of standards, some type of culture, accountability, all
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: these different things. You need to go and make a run,
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: and then we'll proceed to the next to the next thing.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Seventy four days away, Commanders Bucks week one. You can
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: let your play do the talking. Then, Austin, you're the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: best man. Thanks a ton for being here.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, thanks for having me.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Last time the Patriots took a quarterback in round one,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: they shocked everybody, cut the veteran at the end of
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: training camp and rolled with Mac Jones. Will Drake may
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: follow the same path with you know, maybe a little
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: better ending we'll discuss it next on the inside.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: Turbos.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Turbos, He's saying, terrible. That's what it sounds like. There.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I know he didn't call he didn't call a lot
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: under the center in North Carolina. Mostly it was in
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the shotgun. But am I the only one that cam terrible?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: That's what that's That's when I heard this.
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: Something the sub slang, you know, Southern folks on from
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: miss you got a little for an accent, you know
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: from from uh.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I wanted one more time? Can the controller and play
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: this one more time? I want to I want to confirm.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: So I had not heard that clip. Can we play
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: it one more time for me real quick?
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Here? Shut? Terrible?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Shut?
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: Why not terrible?
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Terrible?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Does sound That's what it isrible?
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So maybe that's one of the time.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know Tom Fellers, Sarah cavern Wolf on The Insiders.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: This is now what this segment was supposed to be about.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I just did not see that. Everybody's got different stuff.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: You want to have I've talked with coaches about this before.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: You want to have a primary then you have secondary calls.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Last time, it's color and a number, right, blue seventeen,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: green ninety two. Hut. I don't know what Drake may
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: is saying there, I don't think it's coming out the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: way that he wants it to. But that's a side story, Maane.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: We can get this clip to him at some point here,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: all right. More importantly, Cameron, let's talk about this new
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: look Patriots team. Obviously the long run with Bill Belichick
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: for most of that time with Tom Brady. Now it's
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Drawed Mayo and Drake may From everything that you've gleaned
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: through the course of this offseason, how are both those
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: guys Cadence Acide growing into those rules?
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Tom, I've spent Draft week in Foxborough on one
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: thing Draw Mayo made clear to me then and the
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: weeks after, is that Drake may is going to get
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: a fair shot to win this job in week one.
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: I know a lot of people were inching in red
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: shirt year, and maybe it goes that way, but Mayo
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: wants to see them compete and other than the Caden
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: I've talked to people there this spring and said, and
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: they've said may have shown some positive signs of play
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: and leadership, and by the end of spring workouts in June,
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: he rose to the second team, taking reps behind Jacoby
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: Brissette after starting with a third so that's just showing
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: a little bit of progress there. Jacoby took all the
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: first team reps and I'm told that will be the
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: case to start training camp, that Jacoby will be with
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: the starters. Mayo told me Brissette has a head start
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: to be the week one start, giving all his NFL experience,
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: his experience in Alex van Pelt, their offensive coordinators scheme.
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: So may Well learn behind Brissette until he's ready to
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: take that job from him.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: But Mayo has been clear to me.
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: May comes out and camp and balls out in preseason,
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: then the best player will play. And I just want
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: to stress one thing, Tom just being around this team
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: a little bit this spring.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: This is Mayo's team.
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  Speaker 8: I know Bill Belichick has a huge, huge figure around
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: this team, but Mayo's thirty eight. He wasn't a player
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: less than a decade ago. And I've talked to players
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: there who already rave about how he's creating in his
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: own element. And so you're going to see Mayo make
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: his own decisions that maybe Bill might not have made
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: a year ago or two years ago. Right, And so
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: I think this old Patriots way we're going to get
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: further and further away from that, and so teams always
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: want to say they want the Alex Smith Patrick Mahone's plan,
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: but we often see rookie start earlier than we anticipate.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Public pressure is part of that. It was not the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: case last year in Carolina. They'd already named Bryce shown
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the starter at this point everything went wrong there. Year two,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: new coach, Dave Canals. How's it coming together?
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I talked with a key Panthers figure in recent weeks
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: and they said it just feels different in terms of
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: the vision. Everything is so much clearer now. And so
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: you mentioned Dave Canalis. He did wonders with Baker Mayfield.
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: Now he has Bryce Young and I think one thing
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: to key in on last year, the Panthers had this quote,
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: all star coaching staff with a lot of different perspectives
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: coming together. Dave Canalis staff has a lot of guys
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: that he has coached with before, a singular vision, and
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: so there's been a lot of pots reviews about how
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: Bryce is getting one voice, not so many cook cooks
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: in the kitchen, so to speak, and so that has
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: been something that they've seen from him. One person told
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: me there's been more upbeat and positive spirits from Bryce
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: Young and they saw all of last year. Now does
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: that translate in the better year We're going to see
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: in September. But the Panthers are surrounding him with a
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: simpler vision, and they're also surrounding him with big offensive
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: figures like Robert Hunt and Damian Lewis to try to
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: protect him in the inside to get the ball out
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: to those playmakers like Deontay Johnson and zaber lak Ahead
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: who they brought in this offseason.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Cameron Wolf, never terrible Hunt, Thank you very much, Thank
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: always for your insights. Theme of the sitement new coaches
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: den sounds back in New Orleans, but a new OC
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: with Clint Kubiak working with that guy through that pass
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: right there, Derek Carr, as we bring back our friend
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Stacey Dale's. We know the name Stacy, Clint Kubiak, we
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: know the system, and then a lot of it traces
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: back to Gary Kubiak and then has spread through the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: league with Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Mattlefloor and everybody else
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: with this fit, this quarterback, this system, this offense. How
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: do you envision this coming together in New Orleans?
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: Well, for all intents and purposes, it's come together, Tom
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: really well. He was most recently Clint Kubiak the pasking
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: coordinator for Kyle Shanahan for the San Francisco forty nine ers,
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: and so they wasted no time. One of the reasons
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Kubiak wanted to go down to the Big Easy is
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: to work with a veteran, savvy, veteran quarterback like Derek Carr.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: By the way, the Saints won for their last five games,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: nobody's sleeping on this group right. Their bread and butter,
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: of course, is and has been their defense with Dennis
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Allen the head coach. But this offense, I would say,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: as we talk about movement with somebody coming from a
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan team, you're going to see a lot more
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: movement with Derek Carr in this offense. Play action, heavy
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: play action, and really he has done a fantastic job learning,
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: grasping and delivering, and they have held nothing back. Tom,
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: I think there should be excitement because of the work
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: that they have put in. Derek Carr has been open
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: about that and he has been used as the standard
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: for Kubiak in terms of coaching those guys up. They
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: expect perfection and they expect precision, and so it's been
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: a huge learning process. But it should be a fun
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: training camp for the New Orleans Saints as they try
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: to better how they finished last season. Knocking on the
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: door to those Tampa Bay.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Bucks who made the playoffs, Stacy, thank you very much.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Look forward to talking to you again soon. I am sure.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: After this, let's do a very relevant segment with mister
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Irrelevant Jet safety Jalen Key. A fascinating journey to the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: NFL pick number two fifty seven. He joins us right
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: after this on the inside.
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: With a two hundred and fifty seventh pick in the
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: twenty twenty four NFL Draft, the New York Jets select
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: Jalen Key, a defensive back from Alabama.
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: Good luck, mister Rollan.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: What a moment right there for Jalen Key. This year's
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: mister Irrelevant, but of course very relevant to us at
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: this moment because he's right here on the insiders with me.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Tom Pelvicero, Jailing, congratulations. I know you've been in the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: midst of irrelevant week, as they call it. Take me
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: through everything that you've been doing here since you were
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: made that pick.
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: It has been fun. We got up Saturday. We was
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: able to come in, you know, go out to eat
• 35:37
  Speaker 10: and meet a lot of fans. There's a lot of
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: Jet fans out here, man, that I didn't you know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: they didn't know it was out here. But we had
• 35:43
  Speaker 10: a celebration. It was fun. Got to meet a lot
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: of people, signed a lot of autographs. But it's been fun.
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: It's been fun, great food, great people. Did you know
• 35:54
  Speaker 10: prior to the draft?
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Obviously you're hoping that you're not the last pick, but
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: do you know part of the draft even what mister
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: irrelevant was.
• 36:01
  Speaker 10: Right, So you kind of you kind of know what
• 36:02
  Speaker 10: mister relevant is, but you don't You don't know. It's
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: a whole celebration and I wouldn't want another way. Honestly,
• 36:08
  Speaker 10: it's been great.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I talked this morning to your agent, Kevin Connor, who
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: was talking to me about the process that day, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: you know how it is late in the draft, teams
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: are calling, hey, we want to sign Jaalen as an
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: undrafted guy whatever, And he said, you texted him while
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that last team was on the clock with the Jets
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: and just said we made it. When you send that text,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: when you get that call, what is that moment like
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: for you?
• 36:33
  Speaker 10: Oh, it's crazy, exciting. It's a moment that you've been
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: waiting for your whole life. Oh, you worked for since
• 36:37
  Speaker 10: you was whaling peewee. It's it was a real moment
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: for being my family. So once I got the call
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: and I've seen it was New York, it was the Jets,
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: I told him, Hey, we made it win.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: So that's what we worked for and we're ready. So
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: take me through going back to the early days for
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: you at UAB. You read sure your first year, you
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: spend three basically as a backup. You're playing some special teams.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: You play more in twenty twenty two, then all of
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you're at Alabama in twenty twenty three, starting
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of first round draft picks. What clicked
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: during your college career to put you in this position?
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: So you know, you kind of got to focus on
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: a lot of the little things, and that's kind of
• 37:18
  Speaker 10: what I started focusing on. You got to grind it out.
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: There's some tough days, and there are some tough months
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: in there, but in the end, if you keep working,
• 37:25
  Speaker 10: you prevailed. So it's for me that's what it was
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: to keep working, keep working and get end up on top.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: A couple of your teammates were high draft picks. Here
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Terry On Arnold had his moment on the stage coming
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: to Detroit. I'm home baby. When you look at him
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and you look at kool Ai McKinstry too, a guy
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: would have been a first round pick if he weren't hurt.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: What are those two guys going to mean to their
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: NFL teams? Oh?
• 37:46
  Speaker 10: Yeah, those guys are incredible.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: The characters that they are and the player that they
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: are next to none. Those guys are extremely talented and
• 37:54
  Speaker 10: will do great and on this level.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: So you get into the Jets off season program and
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: you get out there for the first day of OTAH
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: and I know again, you're playing in the SEC. You're
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: playing at Alabama. You're seeing talented dudes every week. When
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: you walk on the field and Aaron Rodgers is over there.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Who you were five years old when that guy got drafted.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: You probably played with him in Madden. You certainly know
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: who he is. He's won four MVPs. What type of
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a welcome to the NFL moment is that like for you?
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 38:24
  Speaker 10: It's pretty crazy to see Aaron Rodgers out there with you.
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: That's you're practicing against. Him, he's on the other side
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: throwing the Rocket's pretty crazy because you grew up playing
• 38:32
  Speaker 10: with him in Madden Like. He's a great player, he's generational,
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: and it's pretty crazy that he's a quarterback for the
• 38:38
  Speaker 10: team I'm playing with.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: So Hey, it was pretty so real.
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: For me to get out there and practice with him
• 38:43
  Speaker 10: and be able to.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Go out and work with him every day.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Well, in less than a month, you're gonna be out
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: there on the field in training camp. Went up against
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: him again, picking him off once or twice the practice.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: That wouldn't hurt your chance with the Jets. How do
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: you go about making sure you are relevant to use
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the term of the day here in training camp and
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: earn your spot not just to make the roster, but
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: to really be a contributing factor to a Jets team
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: with high expectations.
• 39:08
  Speaker 10: Right, So it's consistency. That's what the game boil down to. Consistency.
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: If you're consistent, you'll do good in this game. That's
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: what the game is about, going out to work hard
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: every day and being consistent.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Well, Jaalen, congratulations for getting to this point, man, I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: know it's been a journey for you. Best of luck,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: hope to see out there in Florida Park. SOO yeah,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man, Jets open up against the forty
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: nine Ers, These Steelers open up against the Falcons. Will
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: it be that guy under center, Russell Wilson, Well, he's
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: getting ready. Is only Russell Wilson camp. We'll explain next
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: on the inset seventy four days until the Steelers open
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four season Atlanta and Russell Wilson. Well,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: he's following Axel Roadster's advice and getting in the ring.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Russ says he did this previously, had some of his
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: best years in Seattle. Well, there's quite the look. If
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: we welcome you back to the insiders, Tom Pellicero and
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. Bucky, you're you're a resident scout on this show.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Let's bring up the photo Russ again, big part of scouting,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: right his body typing. You've seen all different versions of Russ,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: this versions of Russ. How does he look physically to you? Look?
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Man, Russell looks good, he looks motivated. The boxing video
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: left a little something to be designed, but I love
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: that he's gonna look Cardio in challenging himself doing some
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: different stuff. Look, I'm a firm believer that going to
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh is really going to help Russell Wilson resurrect his
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Had chances because if he's able to get it done
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: in the Steel.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: City, Man, all that magic that left his game will
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: be back on his game and his name.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see what he does under the
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: leadership of.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Mike Tom You were underwhelmed by the uppercut? What was it?
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: What didn't you like in the boxing for him there?
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if that was really uppercut. I
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: don't know if he was really swinging. It wasn't really
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: the speed bag. It was kind of like in the middle.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: I just needed a little more, a little more of rust.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: It's a little more. That actually looks like it's the
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: exact angle of mice Tyson's punch out right. It's like
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: you got the small guy and then you got you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Glass Joe or whoever in the background there. It's uh,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: thanks you back to about childhood humor. Thank you very much.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you great director, Emily Van Sikel. It's been with
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: us for ten years working on The Insiders, Red Zone.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: All these shows would knock one in the air without
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: her should move back to New Hampshire, their husband Clay,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and their cats. Thank you, Emily for all you've done. Goodbye, everybody,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: see tomorrow.