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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning. From Monday, June sixteenth, I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Akron game in seventy five days, the game against
- 0:06Michigan in one hundred and sixty six days. With it being June sixteenth,
- 0:10we are officially now in late June. Just trust me on this. We're
- 0:13going to round up June sixteenth basically rounds up to June thirtieth, which is
- 0:17basically July, which is conference media day's time, and then fall camp time,
- 0:21and then the season's almost here. So with the season being almost here,
- 0:24felt like a good time to run through this year's college football playoff format.
- 0:29Twelve teams this year, not just for any very different schedule, very
- 0:33different format, and some very different rules this year that I think maybe have
- 0:37not gotten as much attention as they deserve, and some stuff that I think
- 0:42in about three or four months, the people who are not real college football
- 0:45sicos are going to go, wait, they're doing it? What? What?
- 0:49Why would that team get the what that doesn't make any sense? Well,
- 0:53you're going to have a little bit of a head start on all of
- 0:55that. We're going to run through the predictions from one of the national outlets
- 1:00and we'll put those in, plug those into the college football playoff schedule and
- 1:04run through what that might look like. So we're gonna be doing that with
- 1:07our buddy Toty Gurnament if Buckyhuddle dot com Tony. This is the time of
- 1:11year. It is college football magazine season. We've gotten, we talked,
- 1:15we did a show on the first one on Buckeye Weekly a couple weeks ago.
- 1:19You just got an advanced digital copy of another one. It is the
- 1:23most wonderful time of the year. Mary Steele, miss everybody. Yes,
- 1:27the Phil Steel Phil Steel Digital magazine out to to the VIP purchasers and just
- 1:34coming off the printing press late last week and should be out to uh check
- 1:40your mailboxes this week again for your Phil Steel magazine. But yes, always
- 1:47uh something you look forward to every year. It is here and then you
- 1:51just pour through it and whether you disagree or you don't, it's just nice
- 1:53to have in your hands again, even even in the tablet version that I
- 1:57have now. Yeah, it is always a welcome sign that the season is
- 2:01just getting a little bit closer. This year's rankings, you were running through
- 2:06them with me and I went, oh boy, that's not how I would
- 2:08necessarily have it. But we're gonna use Phils. We're gonna use phills rankings
- 2:12for the teams. How he's got them stacked up in his powerpole. Let
- 2:16me this. This is how he views how he expects things to go,
- 2:20sorry, how he expects things to go. Yes, sorry, so's how
- 2:23he's expecting things to go. You know, we'll see how the College Football
- 2:28Playoff Committee adjust things, tweaks things to you know, we've got some rematches
- 2:34going here. I'm not sure this is exactly how it'll look when all is
- 2:37said and done, but this is just going to be a you know,
- 2:38for for illustrative purposes only. We're going to run through here. So here's
- 2:43here's the rankings that he has number one, Georgia number two, Ohio State
- 2:46number three, Oregon number four, Texas number five, Penn State number six,
- 2:51Notre Dame number seven, Alabama number eight, Utah at number nine,
- 2:54Michigan number ten, Miami number eleven, Iowa, Yes, Iowa, and
- 3:00then Boise State is the top non power conference team in his ranking. So
- 3:05now here's you know, there's there's probably some things in there that you might
- 3:07have arched an ibrow at but you know, nothing crazy. However, here's
- 3:14where I wanted to kind of get into some of the details on this,
- 3:16because I don't know that people have really thought through the fact that it's the
- 3:21top four conference champions, not necessarily power conference champions. Theoretically, Boise State
- 3:25could get a top four bid, but the top four conference champions get the
- 3:31top four seeds in the tournament. In the College Football Playoff this year,
- 3:36they get a first round by So when you reseed things based off of those
- 3:40rankings, you get number one Georgia sure, number two Ohio State okay,
- 3:46number three, wait for it, Big twelve champion Utah okay, number four
- 3:53ACC champion Miami Tony. The phrase ACC champion Miami jarring enough, number four
- 4:00even more surprising there, But yes, Utah and Miami would then be seated
- 4:03ahead of number five seed Oregon, number six seed Texas, number seven seed,
- 4:08En State, number eight seed Notre Dame, number nine seed Alabama,
- 4:12number ten seed, Michigan, number eleven seed Iowa, number twelve, Boise
- 4:15State, Tony, which one to you is more visually jarring five Big ten
- 4:20teams in the top eleven or number three Utah and number four, Miami having
- 4:27first round buys. Yeah, I mean all of that because when you figure
- 4:33in Miami and these rankings are ten, and yet in the CFP they're going
- 4:40to be four. I think that's one of the things that people have not
- 4:44yet figured like, yeah, well, you know, they'll just be you
- 4:46know, maybe you're the top five teams will be where the conference championships,
- 4:53conference champions come from. And it's like, yeah, with the lack of
- 4:58I guess distance between what is the what are the best teams in the ACC
- 5:02and what are the really good teams in the ACC? And the same with
- 5:05the Big twelve, Like I think there's a lot of congestion in there.
- 5:09So there's going to be two lost too, maybe two lost, three loss
- 5:12teams winning a conference championship, and it's they're gonna be jumping everybody and going
- 5:16almost to the front of the line. And then you know, say Oregon
- 5:20or Ohio State, their only loss is to each other, to the other
- 5:24team, and that team, whoever loses, is going to fall back behind.
- 5:28Say a three loss Miami. Do you think tom Ohio State fans are
- 5:31going to take that? Well, you know, sure they'll get a home
- 5:34game in the playoffs. But to see the nine and ten and three Miami
- 5:41Hurricanes, or even better, the nine and four Miami Hurricanes going to to
- 5:46you know, to the front of the line and getting that four seed in
- 5:49and Ohio State dropping back at being on perhaps the five seed. Do you
- 5:54think that would be taken in stride? I think it will go over extremely
- 6:00well with whoever is the five seed, because again, I think there are
- 6:02a lot of people who are going to figure this out in about late November
- 6:05and then go, what what Why would you do it that way? That's
- 6:10incredibly stupid. Uh, don't worry, We're already way ahead of you.
- 6:14This is incredibly stupid. I do think there is going to be a surprising
- 6:17benefit. Yes, you have to play an extra extra game, but a
- 6:21surprising benefit to being the five seed where you're going to play a non power
- 6:26team in the first round at home, and generally, you know, generally
- 6:30just the non power teams have just not had the depth to stay with the
- 6:33high level power five teams. So you're probably favored by seventeen twenty points something
- 6:40like that in that first game against like a Boise State at home, and
- 6:43then your second game is against Miami at a neutral site that that feels like,
- 6:47that feels like you're get you're gonna get to. If you're the five
- 6:50seed, you are very very likely to get to the semi finals of the
- 6:57College Football Playoff every bit as much so as if you are the two seed
- 7:02or the one seed. You the first game, you are very very likely
- 7:06to win. Sure you want to buy, but that's a very winnable first
- 7:11game, it's a very winnable second game, and then you go from there.
- 7:14So just as a reminder, just since we're all trying to figure this
- 7:17out together, first round games, so this is going to be seeds five
- 7:21through twelve. They play the first round games on campus Friday, December twentieth.
- 7:27There's gonna be one game in the evening Saturday, December twenty. First,
- 7:30there's gonna be three games from the early afternoon, late afternoon, and
- 7:31then evening time slots. The first and last games are going to be on
- 7:36ESPN. The second and third games are going to be on t NT or
- 7:41TBS. I don't remember which one, but those are going to be think
- 7:44it's TNT because I believe they know drama. That is going to be the
- 7:48games in this scenario, would be Boise State at Oregon, Iowa at Notre
- 7:54Dame, Michigan at Penn State, and Alabama at my chef Notre Dame in
- 7:59there twice, that can't be right, So that would be Iowa at Texas.
- 8:05Sorry, Iowa at Texas. So that's that's where that would happen.
- 8:09You know, we can project where where these games would probably slide. I'm
- 8:13going to guess the Boise State at Oregon game would be the Friday night game,
- 8:16and then Michigan Penn State at noon, Bama Notre Dame at three point
- 8:22thirty in Iowa at Texas in primetime probably, but you know, we'll see.
- 8:26And you know, this is one tony where I doubt that you're going
- 8:31to have Boise State at Oregon would be a regular season rematch. Michigan and
- 8:33Penn State don't play in the regular season, so it's not a rematch.
- 8:39But you're probably you're probably going to try to avoid conference versus conference kind of
- 8:43games, although with five Big ten teams in here, it would be pretty
- 8:46hard to pretty hard to do. Well. Yeah, if you've got that
- 8:50many in there, and I've seen other projections with you know, five SCC
- 8:54teams and you can only key avoid them, keep them away from each other
- 8:58for so long. But you would think they would try to not have conference
- 9:03matchups in the first round. They're going to tell you that we don't look
- 9:07at conferences when we rank these teams, because that's what the committee always says.
- 9:11We don't look at conferences. We only look at the individual teams.
- 9:15Then we rank those teams. But you know, I do find it a
- 9:18little sad that you've already put a Michigan at Penn State in the playoffs at
- 9:26noon so that they cannot get a wide out. Tom are you are you
- 9:31secretly working for Fox by any chance? Are you you Fox Home? Or
- 9:35you you think every big game at Penn State needs to be played at noon?
- 9:37You make me sick. Put the Texas game at noon. They're used
- 9:41to playing their biggest game at noon every year against Oklahoma. Like they're used
- 9:45to that. Put at eleven o'clock local. Let Penn State fans please,
- 9:50can they not have a wide out for once? I have to tell you,
- 9:54I think that the Iowa Texas game, just time, time zone wise,
- 9:58would make sense in primetime. I think about it. They're probably not
- 10:01putting that at noon it probably is Michigan Penn State at noon, Iowa Texas
- 10:03at three thirty, and then Bama at Notre Dame. You want the Alabama
- 10:07eyeballs, you want the Notre Dame eyeballs. That's your primetime game. I
- 10:11don't. I can't even believe I didn't. I hadn't thought this there before
- 10:13I said it the last time. That's absolutely your primetime game. So that's
- 10:16December twentieth and twenty first, So that's your first round games. Those are
- 10:20on campus sites, so at Oregon, at Texas, at Penn State at
- 10:24Notre Dame. In this example, you were Tony, if there's only one
- 10:30SEC team playing a home game that that first round, I would I would
- 10:35be pretty surprised. I was going to say something about eating my hat or
- 10:37walking somewhere, but I've seen that go poorly for people, so I will
- 10:41just say I would be pretty surprised if that happened. Now on to the
- 10:45quarterfinals. This is December thirty first and January first. December thirty first,
- 10:50the first quarter final. It's just like the first round. There's one game
- 10:54on the night before and then three games on the afternoon or during the during
- 10:58the day on the following day. So December thirty, first Fiesta Bowl in
- 11:01the evening, so yes, you will have a New Year's Eve watching the
- 11:05college football playoff yet again. And then January first, New Year's Day,
- 11:09Peach Bowl in the early afternoon, Rose Bowl, late afternoon, Sugar Bowl
- 11:13in the evening. I don't think they've announced that there's not conference tie ins
- 11:18with these bowls anymore. They have not really said are they going to try
- 11:22and maintain some of those historical tie ins. I would assume Tony that you
- 11:26know Fiesta Bowl, if you've got if your your teams that are kind of
- 11:31the the ones who there, you know, they they know that these four
- 11:37teams are going to be in the playoff. They know they're going to be
- 11:41in these games. Georgia, Ohio State, Utah, Miami Fiesta Bowl.
- 11:45That feels like that's the Utah game. You put Utah against the winner of
- 11:48Iowa Texas. So probably Utah Texas in the Fiesta Bowl on New Year's Eve,
- 11:54Chick fil A Peach Bowl. I probably don't need to tell you who
- 11:56is probably going to get to play about an hour from their home campus.
- 12:00Why it's the Georgia Bulldogs. Look at that. Wait, wait till we
- 12:01get two games in the future and you get to see where Georgia gets to
- 12:05play Georgia versus the winner of Alabama Notre Dame in the Peach Bowl in the
- 12:09early afternoon Rose Bowl game late afternoon. This is where this is where it's
- 12:15interesting to me because Ohio State geographically might prefer to play in the Sugar Bowl,
- 12:20and the TV network might prefer to have Ohio State in primetime maybe,
- 12:26but you've also the Rose Bowl, the tradition there Ohio State. You could
- 12:31potentially, Tony in this scenario have an Ohio State Michigan Rose Bowl or an
- 12:33Ohio State Penn State Rose Bowl. I'm not expecting that to be how it
- 12:39lines up, but boy, would Ohio State Michigan in the Rose Bowl would
- 12:43be one of the weirdest. Like this is deeply college football traditional and also
- 12:50so extremely weird. I don't know how people would handle it well. And
- 12:56as I've said about this potential matchup before, do it like they do.
- 12:58If you see in UCLA both home jerseys in the Rose Ball, that has
- 13:03to be the way that you have it and go from there. But when
- 13:07when we talk about the committee trying to steer conference teams away, like do
- 13:11they want Michigan and Penn State playing in that first round? I also wonder
- 13:15how quickly, like do you the sooner that say Ohio State and Michigan can
- 13:20play in the playoffs, the better and the the the more likely it is
- 13:26to happen, Like you if you're trying to well, we'll just wait to
- 13:28try to steer it so that they can meet in the finals. It's like,
- 13:31well, there's a lot that could happen between that, you know now,
- 13:35and then if you have it in the you know, the second round
- 13:37or third round or whatever, there's there's a better chance of happening. So
- 13:41I do wonder if there's not manipulation, but you know, being okay with
- 13:46it happening that early or earlier rather than trying to save it for the final
- 13:48four, the final game. But Michigan or High State in the rose Ball,
- 13:54I mean that's I mean that there's so much college football. I don't
- 13:58know if you can consume too much college football and get the college football diabetes.
- 14:01But if you could, that is what you know, you'd go to
- 14:05the doctor and they'd be like, were you at the Rose Bowl watching Ohio
- 14:07State in Michigan because you have college football diabetes and you're like, was I
- 14:11not supposed to do that? Did I have too much college football? Was
- 14:16that too much? We just talked about eating forty donuts and a sitting on
- 14:18a previous show. That feels like the college football version of eating forty donuts.
- 14:22And you know the other piece of this is Georgia in the Peach Bowl
- 14:26early afternoon. A TV network is going to go in nuts with Georgia versus
- 14:31Notre Dame or Georgia versus Alabama being a what noon kick one o'clock kick on
- 14:37New Year's Day? That is that is a huge, huge audience magnet.
- 14:41But there's no way they're not having Georgia play in the Peach Bowl unless they
- 14:46put them in the Sugar Bowl. They could think conceivably, I guess put
- 14:48them in the Sugar Bowl, maintain that traditional SEC tie in. But you
- 14:50know, so you've got however they sort this out, I'm going to guess
- 14:56Utah and the Texas IOWA winner in the Beesta Bowl on New Year's Eve,
- 15:03Georgia versus Notre Dame or BAMA winner and the Peach Bowl early New Year's afternoon
- 15:07Ohio State versus the Michigan Penn State winner in the early evening or in the
- 15:13late afternoon, and then the Sugar Bowl being Miami versus the Boise State Oregon
- 15:16winner in the evening of New Year's Day, and then you get the semi
- 15:20finals, and the semi finals is let's just say Georgia versus Let's say Georgia
- 15:26versus Oregon, because I think that's probably the reality of the situation. And
- 15:31Ohio State versus probably the Notre Dame Alabama winner probably if you know, if
- 15:37you're assuming that Utah and and Miami both lose, you know, Georgia,
- 15:46and that would be on the Thursday, January ninth in the Orange Bowl and
- 15:52Friday January tenth in the Cotton Ball. These are back to back days.
- 15:56I'm going to once again guess Tony Georgia will get the Orange Bowl game.
- 16:00They just played in the Orange Bowl last year. It's closer to home as
- 16:04the top seed. If anyone gets a choice, they would get the choice.
- 16:08It would also give them an extra day to prepare for the National Championship
- 16:12Game, which I'm sure they would probably prefer. Friday, January tenth Cotton
- 16:17Bowl, So we would have both potentially Georgia and Ohio State going back to
- 16:19the bowl games they played in last year Friday, January tenth, that night,
- 16:23you'd have Ohio State versus Utah or Notre Dame or Utah or probably Texas.
- 16:32I'm gonna guess. So yeah, let's say Ohio State Texas in the
- 16:37Cotton Bowl and Georgia Oregon in the Orange Bowl. Not the friendliest route to
- 16:44not the friendliest route to the final for Ohio State potentially there, but then
- 16:48Tony it gets worse for Ohio State there Monday, January twentieth National Championship game,
- 16:53the two top projected teams Ohio State, Georgia, Tony. You'll never
- 16:56guess where they're playing the National Championship this year. It's Atlanta, tom am,
- 17:02I right, it is Atlanta. Yes, Georgia could potentially have a
- 17:07road to the College Football Playoff that is Atlanta, Miami Atlanta or Atlanta at
- 17:12New Orleans Atlanta, where Ohio State could have to go potentially Pasadena, Texas
- 17:19against a Texas team potentially, and then Georgia against the Georgia team. That's
- 17:26you know, I mean, you got to win. You gotta win the
- 17:27games, it doesn't matter, you know, you team teams win on the
- 17:30road all the time, but that is that is potentially a rough, a
- 17:34rough pathway there. Had not looked at that until just now. It's like,
- 17:37oh boy, that is not the friendliest, not the friendliest schedule.
- 17:41No, and kind of furthers my thought that you know, people are talking
- 17:45about this as Natty or Bush for Ohio State, and this is people outside
- 17:48of Ohio State's realm, like the national people are saying, you know,
- 17:52if they don't win it this year, you know, it's never going to
- 17:53happen. And meanwhile, they're in every ranking, they're like number two.
- 17:57Georgia is the favorite at number one, and you don't even factor in like
- 18:03you're supposed to. You're supposed to win it all by beating Texas in the
- 18:06cotton Ball and beating Georgia in Georgia Like these are very difficult things to do.
- 18:11They don't just happen. And so you know, Ohio State is not
- 18:15the shoe in that people are saying they should be, even though they're not
- 18:18putting them number one when they put their own rankings out. But yeah,
- 18:22if you uh, you know, get Texas, that would that is a
- 18:26huge place Jerry World. And you know Ohio State fans travel, They travel
- 18:30like crazy. That is going to be a very very difficult ticket for Buckeye
- 18:36fans, and the allotment that Ohio State gets will go immediately. And you
- 18:40know, I don't Texas fans are gonna tom As. We know everybody in
- 18:45Texas has oil money, and so they're gonna use that oil money to get
- 18:48tickets and probably hold onto those tickets. I think that's Texas, A and
- 18:52m everyone has oil money. Texas is everyone has I don't know insurance money
- 18:59or banking money or something like that, but yes, either way, Yeah,
- 19:02this is you're looking at. I mean, if the expectation for people
- 19:04is Ohio State's going to go sixteen to oh they would have to win at
- 19:07Oregon at Penn State home, against Michigan, against probably Oregon again at a
- 19:15neutral site in Indy maybe, and then beat in this case Michigan or Penn
- 19:22State in a neutral site at the Rose Bowl, then beat Texas in Texas,
- 19:25then beat Georgia in Georgia. That's when I say, Tony, don't
- 19:30ever predict a team to go undefeated in any given season. This is what
- 19:33I'm talking about there's that would be a lot, but you know someone's gonna
- 19:37do it this year. We will see. But yeah, that is just
- 19:40wanted to run through that for you with just some real names and real numbers
- 19:45in there, just to kind of give you a sense for what to expect
- 19:47this year. Well, I may do this again with another set of ranking
- 19:49because I think you may end up with some more interesting first round matchups if
- 19:53you've got a few more comp teams from different conferences and you don't have the
- 19:56U don't have the rematches and all that kind of stuf. We will,
- 20:00Uh, we don't worry. We got plenty more shows between now and the
- 20:03start of the season to run through all of this stuff. But I wanted
- 20:06to just give you that little exercise. I think there was a lot too,
- 20:08a lot to learn there in terms of how this is all going to
- 20:11work, what this is going to look like, and uh, you know
- 20:15how much how much travel everyone might get to do in the months of December
- 20:18and January. I can't wait. Personally, it is gonna be a lot
- 20:21of fun to see some of these matchups and see you'll see some of these
- 20:22teams that haven't played or haven't played in a long time, or haven't played
- 20:26on campus sites. That is going to be really fantastic. Really looking forward
- 20:30to that, really looking forward to the start of the season. We're looking
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- 20:48it for today. Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great
- 20:49day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.