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Craig Bolerjack on the Utah Jazz getting the 2nd pick in this year's draft, Do anything you can to get Dybantsa (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Shaw O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in, Greg Boehler Jack, voice of the jazz broadcasting
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  Speaker 3: legend Hoops insider, Greig Bohlerjack, Welcome back to the program.
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  Speaker 4: How are you, sir, Hey, oc im Oyl, How you been?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man? I'm pumped, like I think a lot of people.
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  Speaker 5: In this jazz sphere of influence are pumped right now
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  Speaker 5: because Mother's Day gift to all the jazz mothers out
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  Speaker 5: there and to all the jazz mothers that are attached
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  Speaker 5: to degenerate jazz fans that we're just hoping and praying
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  Speaker 5: and wishing that the draft lottery would yield a positive
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  Speaker 5: outcome for this beloved franchise.
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  Speaker 2: In Salt Lake City. And is not pick number one,
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  Speaker 2: but it is close enough.
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  Speaker 5: It's pick number two in a very deep draft that
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  Speaker 5: belongs now to the Utah Jazz.
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  Speaker 2: Your initial reaction when you heard the.
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  Speaker 4: News, Well, I sat down like I did a year
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  Speaker 4: ago when the Jazz had the seventeen win record worst
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  Speaker 4: in the NBA, like the Washington Wizards who had seventeen
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  Speaker 4: this year, and I thought, okay, let's go with the odds.
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  Speaker 4: The best I was expecting was maybe a five spot.
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  Speaker 4: And then when they bypassed that and they realize I
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  Speaker 4: realized that Jazz are going to move in to the
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  Speaker 4: top four, then top three, I go, wow, this is
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  Speaker 4: definitely a franchise changer, Oce. I mean, this is the
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  Speaker 4: first time the lottery has treated the Jazz positively. You
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  Speaker 4: moved a two and there are multiple options that are
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  Speaker 4: on the table for Austin Ainge, Danny Ryan, and Justin Zanik.
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  Speaker 4: It's exciting, you know, I tell you the last three years,
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  Speaker 4: I'll be honest, it's a challenge to call games. Well,
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  Speaker 4: you don't know who's going to play. A couple of
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  Speaker 4: ten day contract guys come and go, and you just
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  Speaker 4: have to adjust the best you can. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: Jazz fans stayed with it, and now the reward comes
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  Speaker 4: health will be number one for this entire group like
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  Speaker 4: it is you know, each and every year, each and
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  Speaker 4: every game. But man, it's exciting. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: possibilities here. Assets that the Jazz do have. Do they
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  Speaker 4: use those to improve their status to one. The Wizards
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  Speaker 4: are an interesting group because they use their six pick,
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  Speaker 4: remember last year on Trey Johnson. They already have another
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  Speaker 4: point guard and Trey Young. Johnson's the two and Trey's
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  Speaker 4: the one. But what do they do and what are
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  Speaker 4: they seeking? How close are they? Like the Jazz and
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  Speaker 4: the rebuild. The Jazz are much ahead, I think you'll agree,
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  Speaker 4: and so that's part of the whole. I'd say it
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  Speaker 4: just the questions and the excitement and the possibilities are
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  Speaker 4: endless out there, depending on what you know. The front office,
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  Speaker 4: which I always love to say, is beyond anyone's pay
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  Speaker 4: grade except those guys on what they're actually going to do,
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  Speaker 4: because they do have a lot of options, they really do.
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  Speaker 5: I agree with you, and I'm fascinated by the idea
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  Speaker 5: that you just mentioned, the possibility to improve from two
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  Speaker 5: to one, and it feels like for me, the obvious
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  Speaker 5: reason to do that would be to get AJ Debonsa.
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  Speaker 5: And this is further fascinating and more complicated because there's
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  Speaker 5: already a relationship with the owner and governor of the
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  Speaker 5: Utah Jazz and AJ Debonsa like Ryan was instrumental in
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  Speaker 5: getting AJ to go to BYU and helping him to
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  Speaker 5: be what he is now. From an athlete perspective, from
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  Speaker 5: a professional perspective, from an endorser perspective, it feels like
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  Speaker 5: that relationship is pretty important in this particular decision making process.
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  Speaker 5: But I also don't want to put it out there.
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  Speaker 5: I think that Ryan Smith is gonna put his thumb
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  Speaker 5: down on brilliant basketball minds like the Angels and say, no,
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  Speaker 5: you do what I say. You get me this guy
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  Speaker 5: at all costs. I don't think that's the way he's
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  Speaker 5: run things up to this point. So I'm curious what
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  Speaker 5: that negotiation, that conversation looks like in the front office.
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  Speaker 5: And You're right, it's above my pay grades certainly, But
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  Speaker 5: it's not like it's three great players at the top,
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  Speaker 5: none of whom have any relationship with the State of Utah,
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  Speaker 5: with the Utah Jazz at all.
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  Speaker 2: It's Carlos Boozer's son.
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  Speaker 5: It's a guy who doesn't have any relationship with the
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  Speaker 5: state or the franchise, and it's a guy who they've
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  Speaker 5: already like laid a path for to come through BYU
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  Speaker 5: to the Utah Jazz. It feels like those are significant
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  Speaker 5: things in this decision making process.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the most important thing is you can't
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  Speaker 4: get so excited about the possibility that you overpay that
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  Speaker 4: you jump into the three year to four year rebuild
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  Speaker 4: and gosh, oh see everything this fan base has gone through.
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  Speaker 4: It has to be a solid decision. You know. The
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  Speaker 4: assets that you have developed, I think are uber important
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  Speaker 4: to discuss here. The Kyantes Ace will be in his
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  Speaker 4: second year, Walker coming off shoulder if they choose to
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  Speaker 4: match whatever money that has offered him in the restricted
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  Speaker 4: free agent market. You got Triple J in the house.
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  Speaker 4: Now you have a bright sense of baw who has
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  Speaker 4: developed and shown that he can be a sixth man
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  Speaker 4: type score. You know, Cody and Flipp would be question
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  Speaker 4: marks depending on what they do and are those assets.
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  Speaker 4: You have a conchar who is just everywhere hands in
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  Speaker 4: every passing Atlanta defense there who came over in the
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  Speaker 4: trade with Triple J. So, man, we could talk and
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  Speaker 4: talk about all the assets the Jazz have and what
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  Speaker 4: they've built and the agony at times that it's taken
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  Speaker 4: to get to this point. So this decision whether to
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  Speaker 4: stay at two or or try to approach the Wizards.
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  Speaker 4: But then, what does Washington really want like I just said,
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  Speaker 4: they've got guard play that they spent obviously their six
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  Speaker 4: pick on and Trey Trey Johnson, and then they could
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  Speaker 4: obviously help themselves with aj They could go Darren Peterson,
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  Speaker 4: who is you know, is highly thought of, but again
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  Speaker 4: there's some concerns pulling himself out of games, the cramping,
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  Speaker 4: all the above. I think the interview process OC for
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  Speaker 4: the Jazz may be one of the most intriguing parts
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  Speaker 4: because if they decide to move on and stay at
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  Speaker 4: two and Peterson, Boozer or Caleb Wilson is out there too,
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  Speaker 4: who is us a beast? On both ends of the floor.
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  Speaker 4: There's four really strong, strong, franchise changing players in this
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  Speaker 4: whole mix, and so I think it depends. I've asked
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  Speaker 4: the front office personnel multiple times and it's kind of
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  Speaker 4: the same answer I get with even Scottie Layden in
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  Speaker 4: the day and you know, Dennis Lindsey, Kevin O'Connor. They
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  Speaker 4: always say they go for the best athlete, the best
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  Speaker 4: possible player they can put their hands on, not necessarily
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  Speaker 4: position unless you just have an absolute gaping hole like
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  Speaker 4: maybe Memphis does with a John Moran situation. But it's
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  Speaker 4: really intriguing. You know how it ends up on draft
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  Speaker 4: night is anybody's guests. But there are really some high
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  Speaker 4: level players that are going to help this franchise, and
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  Speaker 4: you know what, They're on the cusp of just making
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  Speaker 4: a turn much like Detroit did, and look where they
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  Speaker 4: are now two years ago, and they can make a
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  Speaker 4: jump fast. I think the Jazz are that same in
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  Speaker 4: that same category. I do.
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  Speaker 5: Greig Bowler Jack our guests here on the Shot ol'connell
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  Speaker 5: show talking about the Utah Jazz and their number two
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  Speaker 5: draft pick just obtained in yesterday's NBA Draft lottery. How
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  Speaker 5: much consideration goes into the possibility of signing re signing
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  Speaker 5: a guy after he's done with his rookie contract. It
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  Speaker 5: seems more likely, and again I'm just prognosticating. I don't
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  Speaker 5: have any real knowledge here, it seems more likely that
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  Speaker 5: aj Debonsa would be willing to resign with the Jazz.
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  Speaker 2: He already knows the state, he already seems to like it.
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  Speaker 5: Here, it seems more likely, yeah, that a cam boozer
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  Speaker 5: who has a relationship with the state and whose dad
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  Speaker 5: works in the organization is more likely to resign.
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  Speaker 4: Here.
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  Speaker 5: Is that something that the front office even should be
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  Speaker 5: considering with this draft.
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  Speaker 4: Pick ye, that's a good question. You know the Jazz
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  Speaker 4: remember with Donovan made it clear. I think he wanted
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  Speaker 4: to exit. That was a tough time too. COVID turned
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  Speaker 4: everybody upside down and relationships restrained. I get it. You know,
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  Speaker 4: d Will and Booze both departed, both have said publicly
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  Speaker 4: they should have stayed. You know, I tell you O see,
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  Speaker 4: it's interesting. And when you're nineteen eighteen, nineteen twenty and
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  Speaker 4: agents think that you know, they're going to sign you
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  Speaker 4: these multi you know, year contracts for shoes and other
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  Speaker 4: endorsements and quote bigger, larger cities. You know, it all
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  Speaker 4: sounds you know, nice and good, but you know, an
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  Speaker 4: injury here ask Gordon Hayward right in Boston. You can't predict.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's why the interview process is so important
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  Speaker 4: to know just the growth who they are. Do they
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  Speaker 4: know who they are? You know? How solid are they?
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  Speaker 4: I mean Keyante. I got to give him a lot
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  Speaker 4: of credit to kind of look inside himself last summer
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  Speaker 4: and really dive in deep and comes back more polished
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  Speaker 4: as a professional, more comfortable within his own skin. I
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  Speaker 4: really got to praise him for doing that. It's hard
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  Speaker 4: to do. And I think as this league gets younger
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  Speaker 4: and younger, those interviews and knowing who you're getting because
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  Speaker 4: the investment OC is so big, and the point is
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  Speaker 4: after the rookie contract and then you've put all the
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  Speaker 4: effort and money into developing the player, then you have
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  Speaker 4: to stand back and say see you, and you may
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  Speaker 4: not get a return by the way I e. Gordon Hayward.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think that this whole process about mental health,
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  Speaker 4: maturity eighteen nineteen, making the transition from a college to
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  Speaker 4: a professional player and a man's world. Man, it plays big,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm sure the process is, you know, shortly, if
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  Speaker 4: not already underway for the Jazz to evaluate and get
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  Speaker 4: a chance, you know, during the combines to kind of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just go ahead and you know, get an
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to get to know these players even better. Darren Peterson,
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  Speaker 4: I mean that kid can play, let's be honest. I
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  Speaker 4: mean the film they've shown recently. In a few games,
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  Speaker 4: I saw this past winner unbelievable. Boozer statistically is unreal.
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  Speaker 4: AJ on a site led the league, led the nation
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  Speaker 4: in scoring. And Caleb Wilson, I mean he thought the
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  Speaker 4: chart on just being a two way beast, I mean
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  Speaker 4: offensively and defensively. And I think that's the other thing,
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  Speaker 4: OH see, is that the Jazz have preached and say
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  Speaker 4: they build to play for this team to stay on
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  Speaker 4: this roster, what do you have to do? Got to
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  Speaker 4: play d So I think that's going to come into
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  Speaker 4: the equation bigger than we may think. I really do.
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  Speaker 5: When we're looking at the way that this team already
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  Speaker 5: has its core in place and wants to add with
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  Speaker 5: this number two pick, the assumption is the top of
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  Speaker 5: this draft is deep enough that whoever it is, Darren Peterson,
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  Speaker 5: Cam boozerj De Bonsa, they're going to come in and
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  Speaker 5: they're going to be a Day one, immediate starter in
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  Speaker 5: the NBA, immediate developing star in the NBA. Let's pretend
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  Speaker 5: Bowler that whoever it is, it takes a little bit
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  Speaker 5: longer to get rolling, and that you just have the
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  Speaker 5: core that's already together, right and they're not tanking, they're
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  Speaker 5: not resting, they're not doing random surgeries. But you've got Walker,
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  Speaker 5: and you've got Trey j and you've got Lowry, and
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  Speaker 5: you've got Keyonte, and you've got Ace Bailey and maybe
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  Speaker 5: a rookie that's taken a little bit longer to come together.
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  Speaker 5: But the Jazz have already pre draft all of them
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  Speaker 5: on the floor together. Are they enough to start this
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  Speaker 5: leap forward and maybe get back at least into a
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  Speaker 5: play in even if the draft pick doesn't work out
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  Speaker 5: or takes some time to develop.
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  Speaker 4: I mean on paper, yeah, I think the excitement level
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  Speaker 4: is you know, I'm again, I'm just doing a survey
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the season with guys that I
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  Speaker 4: trust around the league. You know, broadcasters who know the
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  Speaker 4: West especially, Yeah, they all believe the Jazz are playing
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  Speaker 4: and above and again it all comes into play O
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  Speaker 4: see about health and you know you see who gets
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  Speaker 4: knocked out of a playoff series or right now stumbling
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  Speaker 4: with injury. How big it is with just one player,
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  Speaker 4: How do you survive? It's depth, right, It's depth, and
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  Speaker 4: the Jazz are building that depth. Bryce Flip, Isaiah Conshark,
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  Speaker 4: do you keep nerk? Do you keep k K Love?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, all those things are going to come into
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  Speaker 4: play on how far the Jazz can actually move through
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  Speaker 4: the through the Western Conference With most of the Knights,
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  Speaker 4: it's a buzzsaw, especially with Oka se and San Antonio.
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  Speaker 4: They're not going anywhere, and they're young still, and okay,
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  Speaker 4: see he's got a chance to go back to back
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  Speaker 4: as NBA champs. And right behind is a guy named
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  Speaker 4: Wimban Yama, uh and the San Antonio Spurs. Can the
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  Speaker 4: Jazz join that elite group? They sure hope. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's been a while since the Jazz have been elite
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  Speaker 4: in the West. Guys like stocking them alone. But now
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  Speaker 4: you have new names that you know, everything's cyclical, right,
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  Speaker 4: Is that the Jazz turn again? You have to hope
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  Speaker 4: you get a number two pick, and this one you
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  Speaker 4: got to make right, you know, And you make a
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  Speaker 4: great point. You know, they've built for this and they
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  Speaker 4: have some established vets and young players they've developed. Is
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  Speaker 4: there pressure for aj or Peterson or Boozer or Caleb
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  Speaker 4: Wood Wilson or anyone else they may decide to pick
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  Speaker 4: a Cuff is another name that's you know, always in
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  Speaker 4: the top five or six. You know, do you have
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  Speaker 4: to rush him? I mean last year Ace, you know
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  Speaker 4: Ace was thick early remember the season. Then he had
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  Speaker 4: the hamstring that he had to work through, So it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't an easy transition. But what we liked What the
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  Speaker 4: Jazz liked about Ace was his ability to fight through
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  Speaker 4: that mental toughness and still continue to develop and got
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  Speaker 4: himself into the starting position. But it was also by attrition, right,
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  Speaker 4: because the Jazz, you know, had to make sure they
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  Speaker 4: were in a position to do what they did. And
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  Speaker 4: that's the grab a top three spot. It happens to
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  Speaker 4: be number two. But I don't think there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of pressure on the rookie whoever they pick, to be
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  Speaker 4: an immediate impact, because I think there are pieces in
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  Speaker 4: place that will allow him ten fifteen games to say, okay,
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  Speaker 4: get comfortable, understand, and then make your move, and then
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  Speaker 4: they have to make some roster decisions. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: see as I ramble here, I think what Will has
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  Speaker 4: talked to me about is that the and he's talked
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  Speaker 4: to all the media, but I mean just it's the
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  Speaker 4: options that he has now for the first time in
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  Speaker 4: what will be his fifth year with the Utah Jazz.
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  Speaker 4: He can go big, he can go small, he can
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  Speaker 4: use speed, he can go off ball with Key and
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  Speaker 4: let Isaiah do his thing. There's so many options and this,
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  Speaker 4: this number two pick will only add to that. And
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  Speaker 4: that's what I think is the most intriguing and exciting
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  Speaker 4: thing about what the Jazz.
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  Speaker 5: Have before I let you go the uh you mentioned
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  Speaker 5: Victor wen Binyama. The Spurs saw a different siding him,
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  Speaker 5: a little bit angrier, Victor w minyow and he ejected
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  Speaker 5: Victor Wenbinyeall man. A series that's now tighter than I
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  Speaker 5: think a lot of people thought it would be. What's
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  Speaker 5: going to happen in that Minnesota San Antonio series?
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  Speaker 4: Minnesota is a surprise. Man. I'm vive gritty. They just
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  Speaker 4: keep coming ants back. Rudy's played really some great you know,
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  Speaker 4: postseason defense. Mike Conley chips in what he can and
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  Speaker 4: what is he thirty seven going on thirty eight? He's
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  Speaker 4: just never ending time machine like Lebron. But the Lakers
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  Speaker 4: run is about done from my from my standpoint, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's gonna be interesting to see if Victor,
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  Speaker 4: you know, young talented. But that one was surprising, surprising. No, See,
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  Speaker 4: he got a little loose, didn't he. And I'd say
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  Speaker 4: it was a high chin music and it wasn't just
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  Speaker 4: a soft touch. That was like a Muhammad Ali knockout,
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  Speaker 4: you know, right on the chin. And so that's kind
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  Speaker 4: of a message too, from the league to Victor and
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  Speaker 4: we'll see how he responds. But this has been good
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  Speaker 4: playoffs series. There's been some good hoop intense. You know,
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  Speaker 4: New York seems to finally right at the ship a bit.
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  Speaker 4: Bruntson's tough man. That guy is just a tough guy
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  Speaker 4: for his size. And you have to have those special
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  Speaker 4: talents to play in this league as a six footer,
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  Speaker 4: and he's got them. And Oklahoma City still see you know,
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  Speaker 4: you saw what I saw. Still I think the elite
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  Speaker 4: the elite team in the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been fun to watch this.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if anyone's gonna be able to knock
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  Speaker 5: off the Thunder, but that's why we play the games,
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  Speaker 5: and we will continue to watch him. And soon enough
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  Speaker 5: you'll hear Craig Bowler jack on Jazz Basketball with a
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  Speaker 5: much more interesting and exciting outlook on the future of
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  Speaker 5: this franchise. Wow, I bet you're looking forward to that
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  Speaker 5: Bowler calling games for a team must try to win
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  Speaker 5: again next time?
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  Speaker 4: Oh three years is uh? You know, we kind of
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  Speaker 4: just as my dad always said, go plow the field.
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  Speaker 4: That's what we tried to do. And you know, watch
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  Speaker 4: the young players grow they did, and you know what,
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  Speaker 4: I think the fans ought to get a tip of
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  Speaker 4: the hat. They stayed with it. I mean, Delta Center
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  Speaker 4: was pretty much you know, packed in every night to
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  Speaker 4: see what the jazz, who they were, who they brought in,
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  Speaker 4: who was making the strides to be a part of
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  Speaker 4: this roster. They saw it, they grew, They watched these
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  Speaker 4: players grow, and you know, for me, yeah, calling games
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  Speaker 4: with talent, high level talent like a triple J and
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  Speaker 4: a marketing and what Walker can do as a defensive
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  Speaker 4: player at the rim with his right and left hand,
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  Speaker 4: I mean that's exciting. And watching Key and Ace, Wow, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it makes everyone's job easier when you can talk about
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: winning and the positive things on the floor and I
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: can't wait. It's going to be fun. And you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: you just hope again that health stays with the jazz.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: But also they build that they could take take a
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: hit if necessary with an injury, which is going to
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: happen to what degree you never know. But like Oklahoma
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: City and when Boston won the championship nearly three years ago, now,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: it was all because the depth and defense and Oklahoma
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: City is deep and they play in your face d
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: and the jazz, you know what, they're trying to get
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: to that same level. But I think the depth part
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: is what gets you through the tough times when you
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: can put a sixth, seventh, or eighth player on the
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: floor fill the gap until your starter comes back. And
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I think the jazz on the cusp of that too. Buller.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I always share your time and your perspective, my friend.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for hopping on today. We'll chat
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: again soon.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Hey, you bet take care of have a great one.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: That is Craig Bowler, jack voice of the Utah Jazz.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: He's a legend.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: You've heard him calling plenty of games, and he will
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: be calling games that actually matter next year.