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- 0:11[SPEAKER_00]: What is going on everybody?
- 0:13[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Oklahoma Seniors on SI podcast.
- 0:16[SPEAKER_00]: We've got three three hosts tonight with a fourth potentially underway as he wraps up host game all the way down in Gainesville.
- 0:25[SPEAKER_00]: That would be of course Ryan Chapman, our good friend, our fearless leader.
- 0:30[SPEAKER_00]: Solo trip for him as Oklahoma goes to the Swap for the first time in program history.
- 0:35[SPEAKER_00]: First time first being between these two programs in the regular season they've played twice before.
- 0:41[SPEAKER_00]: In Oklahoma says, that's cute.
- 0:43[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to lift the best most complimentary of a football team as we're as we have looked all season long.
- 0:50[SPEAKER_00]: with a brand new offensive coordinator, former Titans Coach, Jason Wood, called place for the first time.
- 0:54[SPEAKER_00]: Oklahoma wins 23 to 7, free-trant them here alongside John Hoover and Ryan Aber.
- 1:02[SPEAKER_00]: This is a game gentlemen where OU goes on a 20 play 89 yard drive that bleeds 12 minutes and 54 seconds off the clock with OU up 13 to 7.
- 1:14[SPEAKER_00]: Get the ball a little bit after.
- 1:17[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit, oh, what was it about two minutes and 35 seconds to go in the third quarter.
- 1:21[SPEAKER_00]: They score the touchdown to go up two scores with essentially five and a half left to go in the game.
- 1:27[SPEAKER_00]: And so, Abraham, I'll start with you, just.
- 1:32[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just try to focus on this game in a vacuum.
- 1:35[SPEAKER_00]: Let's not worry about the last three games.
- 1:37[SPEAKER_00]: What's not worry about is Jason Witt and the OC of the future.
- 1:40[SPEAKER_00]: Just right now, what an incredibly impressive performance.
- 1:45[SPEAKER_00]: Not just, of course, what the offense, but the defense responding from the,
- 1:50[SPEAKER_00]: just a zaster of a game last week in South Carolina.
- 1:53[SPEAKER_00]: Coffinary football, both ends of the field, uh, just an impressive performance considering what this team has dealt with over the last what five or six days.
- 2:03[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no doubt about it.
- 2:05[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think who's wearing the army hat because of that.
- 2:10[SPEAKER_02]: felt like an army football drive there in the third quarter in heck that even at second drive felt like an army football drive when you talk about the amount of time that they were able to grind off the clock there just incredibly
- 2:30[SPEAKER_02]: impressive performance.
- 2:31[SPEAKER_02]: And it wasn't just about, yes, Jason Whitton's play call calling me to difference for sure.
- 2:37[SPEAKER_02]: They, you know, narrowed the playbook a little bit.
- 2:39[SPEAKER_02]: They went back to some of the things that really worked.
- 2:42[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I wrote about earlier this week that, hey, we can see John material running the football more.
- 2:47[SPEAKER_02]: It turns out they did that to a great effect.
- 2:51[SPEAKER_02]: But to me, the most impressive thing as I'm
- 2:57[SPEAKER_02]: weeks back to the defense to be better, but how about those third down numbers?
- 3:01[SPEAKER_02]: 10 of 18 for for the sooners.
- 3:05[SPEAKER_02]: They had what was it?
- 3:08[SPEAKER_02]: Five third down conversions on that one drive alone.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_02]: And it held Florida to two of nine on third downs and just by far the most complete performance we've seen from from Oklahoma football this year.
- 3:25[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, absolutely.
- 3:25[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree with you, ABER, completely, that it was the most complete dual-ended kind of performance.
- 3:34[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't need anything spectacular.
- 3:35[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't need somebody coming through a five-sax or a block pump for a touchdown.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_01]: They methodically took apart Florida's defense.
- 3:43[SPEAKER_01]: Think about that.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_01]: John Matier and the Oklahoma Offensive Line and that, oh, you run a game, methodically took apart the Florida defense.
- 3:49[SPEAKER_01]: Three different times.
- 3:51[SPEAKER_01]: Three times, they went cross-country, I think the second one was 80
- 3:54[SPEAKER_01]: four yards, the third one, the final one was 89 yards.
- 3:58[SPEAKER_01]: 13 minutes off the clock almost.
- 4:01[SPEAKER_01]: When I've been covering all you football a long time, I don't think I've ever seen a 20-plied, well, I know I haven't seen a 20-plied drive because Brent Venables told us that that's first one in 54 years they've had at least 20 plays.
- 4:13[SPEAKER_01]: And then 13 minutes.
- 4:16[SPEAKER_01]: I was watching, okay, so that drive started in the third quarter.
- 4:20[SPEAKER_01]: and Jacob Jordan gets the third down conversion on the final play the third quarter.
- 4:25[SPEAKER_01]: They take a commercial break.
- 4:26[SPEAKER_01]: They come back their fourth quarter.
- 4:28[SPEAKER_01]: You see the clock taken down 12 minutes, 10 minutes, 8 minutes, 7 minutes, 5 minutes.
- 4:33[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying you're going, they still have the football.
- 4:35[SPEAKER_01]: This is the same drive.
- 4:37[SPEAKER_01]: They devoured the almost the entire fourth quarter or the the the the the span of it at least keeping the football away from
- 4:50[SPEAKER_01]: And guys, I don't know if we can quantify it.
- 4:53[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I'm like Brooks, uh, the film guy, right?
- 5:00[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to break down film and say,
- 5:02[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the, the things that they were, the tendencies that they were doing on third and short.
- 5:08[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to do that, but what I am going to say is certainly from a layman's point of view and immediate reaction is the offense was organized.
- 5:16[SPEAKER_01]: They were just organized.
- 5:17[SPEAKER_01]: The plays meant something.
- 5:19[SPEAKER_01]: The plays set things up for other plays or they, they repeated a theme that was going on from previous plays.
- 5:32[SPEAKER_01]: They emphasized parts of the offense that were strong.
- 5:35[SPEAKER_01]: It was just everything made sense.
- 5:38[SPEAKER_01]: Especially on those three drives.
- 5:39[SPEAKER_01]: Now, when Florida kicked up the pressure a little bit and penalty started piling up early in the third quarter, I think that's when we saw the Oklahoma offense rear, it's ugly head.
- 5:47[SPEAKER_01]: But they fixed with that cross country 20-play drive.
- 5:51[SPEAKER_01]: It was an impressive performance.
- 5:52[SPEAKER_01]: Especially for a guy who's never coached college football before this season and has never calmed plays beyond the high school level.
- 5:58[SPEAKER_01]: That Jason Witton hats off to you, man.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_00]: Oklahoma 10 of 18 on third down for the evening to go along with what you guys were talking about how efficient the the offense was and just how well oiled it looked compared to the rest of this season and even compared to you know even last season for most of the time and also I mean I
- 6:20[SPEAKER_00]: Unless I'm forgetting something guys, only two three announced for this offense.
- 6:24[SPEAKER_00]: If I have my notes correct, the not the first drive out of the out of half, I believe they picked up a first down on their first play.
- 6:31[SPEAKER_00]: And then they puned their next two drives were three announced.
- 6:35[SPEAKER_00]: But other than that, it was just even drives that didn't end up in scoring or with scores, Ryan.
- 6:43[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, OU was moving the ball and at least winning the field position bow because early on Florida was getting like they had a slight marginal edge and field position, um, they get the pot return, uh, near midfield, which sets up their first and only scoring drive of the game for the Florida Gators.
- 7:01[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Florida is just kind of ran it down OU's throat and a four or five plays pretty quickly, but
- 7:07[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it just kind of goes back to, yes, everybody wants to score touchdowns, everybody wants to kick field goals, you know, put points on the board every time they touch the ball.
- 7:16[SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes when you do have a great defense that's able to play like per its caliber, like we saw, oh, use defense play tonight for the for the absolute most part.
- 7:26[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it's just about getting a first down or two,
- 7:29[SPEAKER_00]: Keeping your defense rested, flipping the field so that they don't suddenly have to be on the field with their heels on their own side of the field, defending their own zone.
- 7:41[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no doubt about it.
- 7:42[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you talked about that third drive of the game.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't get a lot of y'all reach, but just 12, but we're able to pick up a first down and a couple of others.
- 7:53[SPEAKER_02]: But to me, maybe the biggest drive to until, obviously, the match of the C20 played drive that we talked about.
- 8:04[SPEAKER_02]: But
- 8:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, you sort of alluded to it there, but the response after Florida scored the touchdown, they get down there, uh, Jaden Ball, just a phenomenal play to get into the end zone.
- 8:19[SPEAKER_02]: And then, uh, you wonder how Oklahoma's going to respond.
- 8:23[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you remember that game, the Ole Miss game a couple of years ago, with Joe John Finley, uh, being the offensive coordinator,
- 8:33[SPEAKER_02]: win away, mostly in the second half of that game, but you felt like this was a moment where Florida could sort of gain control if they get a big stop, then the gators take the momentum into the second half, but Oklahoma gets above the 25 drives down and was able to kick a field goal to take a six point lead at halftime and get
- 8:57[SPEAKER_02]: keep the momentum, keep Florida at bay and then you know get the ball back to start the second half.
- 9:04[SPEAKER_02]: We're unable to score there but we're at least able to keep momentum on their side entering the second half.
- 9:12[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was a big time drive and just you know indicative of how good of an offensive performance this was.
- 9:21[SPEAKER_02]: The yardage numbers,
- 9:23[SPEAKER_02]: aren't massive on either of the passing of rushing side or the total side, but just the control that they showed throughout the game.
- 9:32[SPEAKER_02]: I thought was phenomenal and obviously a great job by Jason Witton, but also a great job by
- 9:39[SPEAKER_02]: uh... not only john material but the offensive line i thought uh... performed a whole lot better michael fissussy in particular performed a whole lot better after his just disaster of a game uh... last week he did get a penalty uh... there but only one and that was the only penalty office of line had all night so uh... you know a really solid uh... bounce back for forance from them and while the running uh... numbers weren't just out of this world uh... of themselves
- 10:07[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they were able to run the ball when they needed to and it just felt like a real offense for lack of a better term.
- 10:16[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Ryan, we were ready and I were just talking about that an element of that John material didn't look labored every time he threw the ball, he didn't look panicked, he looked relaxed, you know, he was completing passes across the middle, rolling out, escaping pressure, check downs, whatever it was.
- 10:35[SPEAKER_01]: a couple of deep ones that we're on target three deep ones that we're on target one drop one pass interference and one call for a forty one yard completion.
- 10:45[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he looked really good but to your point on the running game what I noticed about that we did instead of the stock report we changed it this week to winners and losers
- 10:56[SPEAKER_01]: One of the winners I had ready to go was Tory Blaylock.
- 10:58[SPEAKER_01]: He looked like he was getting ready to pop one.
- 11:00[SPEAKER_01]: He looked like he was getting ready to have a big game.
- 11:02[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have enough cararies to do so.
- 11:04[SPEAKER_01]: But every time him, every time he and Avent were, I'm sorry, we're carrying the football.
- 11:12[SPEAKER_01]: They were finishing, leaning forward.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_01]: They were finishing with more positive yards and additional yard at the end of every run.
- 11:21[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was impressive.
- 11:22[SPEAKER_01]: Not only did those guys have a little more space with the offensive line, and maybe a little bit more just operating room with the passing games suddenly clicking, but they were finishing their runs, and that's something that was impressive too, I thought.
- 11:38[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I thought, I was sorry, uh, Brady, I was just going to read off the I'll reoff the sassy and go ahead, Abraham, uh, total yardage 351 for Oklahoma 203 for Florida 144 on the ground for the sooners to 70, which again, very impressive.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_00]: If Florida does anything right, it is run the football.
- 11:56[SPEAKER_00]: Jayden ball was held to about 38 yards rushing.
- 12:00[SPEAKER_00]: Florida was, I mean, one more point, Ryan, for let you go.
- 12:05[SPEAKER_00]: Florida was credited for five tackles for loss but to Hoover's point because I thought the same thing too.
- 12:11[SPEAKER_00]: It was like they would like, oh, you're running Max, we're getting hit, you know, three yards up field and then they would fall forward for that four if you are.
- 12:17[SPEAKER_00]: So you're getting four yards of carrying that's great.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_00]: Florida has five tackles for loss.
- 12:20[SPEAKER_00]: Unless they were just off of,
- 12:22[SPEAKER_00]: geometry you're kind of improvising and then getting tackled for loss really I can only recall one time when I know you ball carrier was just stone walled and pushed backwards and it was like in the fourth quarter I believe on that drive.
- 12:34[SPEAKER_00]: Oh he was able to pick it up on the ground anyway but just overall like it was just a great performance running the ball basically you've got three guys that hover around 50 yards rushing so that's of course all systems go from that from that respect.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, especially considering where they had been, you know, through most the season with running the football, which was a disastrous numbers that they'd put up.
- 12:58[SPEAKER_02]: But I thought the Lloyd Avant foredown carry, the direct snap there, really early in the second quarter, was was a big time a play sort of illustrated what who and Brady were talking about there with the
- 13:15[SPEAKER_02]: grinding, getting the extra yards and not, you know, willing themselves not to be stopped and get every last inch that they could get out of things.
- 13:26[SPEAKER_02]: So again, not great numbers overall are not eye popping numbers, but numbers that certainly got the job done tonight.
- 13:34[SPEAKER_01]: The probably most impactful thing, and I'm talking to a fan base here, right?
- 13:41[SPEAKER_01]: knows all about running the football, wishbone, going back split to even, we're talking dominating all-time record rushing Adrian Peterson carrying, right?
- 13:51[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're talking about a program that's DNA is running the football that can't run the football in 2026.
- 13:58[SPEAKER_01]: Agitates the hell out of this fan base.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_01]: Well, over a course of 11 plays, I think one was a past that was declined on the next, on the redo date, they are a past what was a penalty,
- 14:11[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and the wiped out the bay and so that came back with a running play, but on the stretch in that in that 20 play drive, there was an 11 play stretch where Jason Whitten called 10 running plays.
- 14:24[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't scrambles, they were, they were, they were designed quarterback keeps around the end, they were running plays up the middle, they were running plays off tackle, running the football 10 times in an 11 play stretch is something Ben Arbuckle never would have done.
- 14:38[SPEAKER_01]: He was the guy that mastered the art of getting eight yards on first down, and then throwing it two times in complete, or getting sacked on third down, and having to punt after an eight-year gain on first down.
- 14:47[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't see that one time today, we didn't see that kind of reluctance to continue the rushing success, not one time that I noticed.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I guess with that, let's kind of transition and solely focus on Jason Witton.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_00]: And we can go really any, any number of directions with this.
- 15:06[SPEAKER_00]: It can be big picture.
- 15:07[SPEAKER_00]: It can just be with this game.
- 15:08[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess starting with this game, you're exactly right, John, and we talked about this before we started recording.
- 15:13[SPEAKER_00]: just from a very general standpoint, it really just seemed like Jason Whitten just used his brain.
- 15:20[SPEAKER_00]: It was a whole bunch of, hey, this is working continue to do that.
- 15:23[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, maybe overload on one side, pull a guard, pull a tackle to just outnumber your opponent to give your running backs a little bit more room to breathe, which allows for you to get three or four yards up, feel before you start getting hit.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you saw around a lot of those pulling,
- 15:40[SPEAKER_01]: yeah tight ends from time to time yeah pulling a garden a tackle pulling the center i think once or twice yeah uh tight end of the tackle that was that was that was impressive the way they just kept and floored ahead no answer for it yeah and then and even this might be a silly observation but that first big explosive rocky beers in the first quarter i know you first drive on on the third down
- 16:03[SPEAKER_00]: Unless I'm just completely forgetting an instance guys, is that the first time Rocky Bears has had a completion after putting his hand in the ground as a Titan not just being lined up, you know, as a like in the slot or just as a wider receiver essentially like they just they did some just basic smart things.
- 16:23[SPEAKER_00]: and i mean john summer all said it half time where i mean he was asked like what so what what do you do against the new offensive coordinator that just got promoted the week of he's like yeah the running a lot of twelve personnel it's like well yeah Jason what is a tight-end so you would assume they're probably going to want to go to the tight-end a lot um especially i got to have it down's on third down and they did i believe rock beers had two completions or it might have been rocky and hate pants and i can't uh i can't recall
- 16:52[SPEAKER_01]: I'm cracking up because I'm trying to picture at practice.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to picture Jason Whitten with no Ben Arbuckle around this week.
- 16:59[SPEAKER_01]: Saying, hey, you guys watch this.
- 17:00[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I used to do when I played in NFL.
- 17:02[SPEAKER_01]: And you get down on the 3.0 points stance.
- 17:05[SPEAKER_01]: What the heck are you doing?
- 17:06[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you doing that?
- 17:07[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
- 17:09[SPEAKER_01]: Don't do that old school stuff.
- 17:11[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, hey, it'll work, but in addition to that, yeah, like on third downs, hey, he's a tight end, so just bracket rocky beers, that's where they're going to want to go.
- 17:22[SPEAKER_00]: No.
- 17:23[SPEAKER_00]: Jason wouldn't use his brain and said, I'm going to an unleash Jacob Jordan today where he's going to catch every big crucial money got to have it third down.
- 17:31[SPEAKER_00]: Plus, they reintegrated Parker Livingston into the offense, right?
- 17:36[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just, I mean, you just look at the receptions.
- 17:38[SPEAKER_00]: You have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight sooner's caught passes today and you had two go for four or three go for four, two for three and then three others with a reception each.
- 17:52[SPEAKER_00]: It really couldn't have gone better for Jason Wooden as a play caller and not even just calling up the play like it's like it's mad and you just press circle x or triangle for a particular play.
- 18:04[SPEAKER_00]: It was situational awareness.
- 18:06[SPEAKER_00]: It was, hey, this is starting to work or wearing them down so let's continue to do so.
- 18:11[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, even when he had kind of an instance of here's a clock management situation at the end of the first half.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_00]: just a little over two minutes if I recall correctly, they're still able to get it down to at least put three on the board right before half.
- 18:26[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, everything was really good.
- 18:30[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard to leave this game right and not be super optimistic.
- 18:33[SPEAKER_00]: Despite what the reality is, it's really hard to not leave this and not be like very optimistic about what Jason wasn't was able to accomplish tonight.
- 18:42[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no doubt about it.
- 18:44[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you've got to feel really good about what he was able to accomplish.
- 18:47[SPEAKER_02]: My question moving forward is what does it look like when a defensive coordinator and opposing coaching staff has a little bit better read on tendencies?
- 18:59[SPEAKER_02]: I think they talked about that's a little bit on the broadcast, but you know, one of the biggest benefits of having a new offensive coordinator,
- 19:07[SPEAKER_02]: is the other team didn't really have a read on what you're going to call in certain situations and things like that.
- 19:13[SPEAKER_02]: I think clearly Oklahoma took advantage of that, but you really like the way that this offense spread the ball around between the running backs that we've talked about, the receivers braided that you just talked about.
- 19:25[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
- 19:27[SPEAKER_02]: Parker Livingston, what it only had six catches on the season until today at three catches.
- 19:34[SPEAKER_02]: Jacob Jordan, you know, played maybe his biggest role since maybe his freshman year in an offense as far as just the amount of plays and the amount of impact that he had.
- 19:46[SPEAKER_02]: And I think what you're going to see is if they continue this,
- 19:51[SPEAKER_02]: That can freeze some plays up for Isaiah's attaining you to make bigger plays his numbers not big tonight, although obviously had the big touchdown catch, but I think it just gives defenses so much more to think about when you're spreading the ball around both in the passing game and the running game, then you know what we've seen to this point.
- 20:13[SPEAKER_00]: I think to your point real quick, Aver, about, hey, if you spread the ball around, it could open up opportunities for your best past catcher in Isaiah's Tania.
- 20:22[SPEAKER_00]: I believe going into that last drive, you don't only had a catch.
- 20:25[SPEAKER_00]: And you get three more catches to his name, finishes with four, and of course, caps off that touchdown, but he also had an 11-yard reception on that long 20-yard drive, or 20-play drive, excuse me.
- 20:37[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, you're absolutely right.
- 20:39[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is how,
- 20:40[SPEAKER_00]: an offensive supposed to operate quite frankly is you don't just lock on to one person and rely on him you spread the wealth so that when you find yourself in crucial moments hey let's just in the game here that's when you go to your money maker that's when you go to your better better skill position players and that's when they're able to thrive because a defense doesn't know how to properly attack your or stop you.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and no doubt about it and, you know, that'll be really interesting to see moving forward.
- 21:09[SPEAKER_02]: How that affects things, you know, with with this team, not only with Isaiah Satania, but also Rocky Bears and some of those guys who have put up big numbers as the year has gone on, if they get a chance to explode for even bigger ones because of that diversity.
- 21:28[SPEAKER_00]: I think John is uploading some videos all at him try to focus on that real quick Ryan's doing an awesome job sitting as video so that we can put it up on John Hoover Media YouTube channels to go check all that content out as we get it out there for everybody but while John's working Ryan I do want to pose this
- 21:46[SPEAKER_00]: It's a podcast.
- 21:47[SPEAKER_00]: We wouldn't be doing our job if we don't have some big picture conversations even after one game, but I'm going to give you two, I guess, two situations is Jason Witton either Jason Witton, I guess there's three one this this equates to nothing Jason Witton just, you know, is not destined to be a great offensive coordinator.
- 22:07[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know this yet, but that's one possibility another one.
- 22:12[SPEAKER_00]: He is ordained to be an incredible offensive coordinator, or
- 22:18[SPEAKER_00]: This performance tonight was just more indicative of how this offense should have been all along.
- 22:26[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you think tonight was closer to?
- 22:29[SPEAKER_00]: Jason Whitten is destined to be that good.
- 22:32[SPEAKER_00]: Or this is actually a little bit closer to what this team was supposed to look like coming into the city.
- 22:37[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take that one for Chris.
- 22:39[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna be the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys Jason Whitten.
- 22:42[SPEAKER_01]: He will not be the offense of coordinator at all University of Oklahoma next week.
- 22:46[SPEAKER_01]: Next year or next millennium.
- 22:48[SPEAKER_01]: He will be the offensive guru of the Dallas Cowboys.
- 22:52[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead, Chris.
- 22:52[SPEAKER_00]: What would cynic would generate the answer, Mac?
- 22:55[SPEAKER_00]: What would cynic a driver do if Jason Whitton just went straight to coaching in the NFL?
- 22:59[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, I guess I'm not playing in college anymore, but, you know, I mean,
- 23:03[SPEAKER_00]: I'll ask you again, Ryan, but was this closer to Jason Whitton is like, we're on to something here if you're okay with Jason Whitton as a play caller or just, you know, his personal, I guess professional career as a coach or, you know, this is kind of what the offense was more or so supposed to look like and then therefore this is what the team was supposed to look like from a complimentary standpoint.
- 23:27[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm going to go right now, more the latter, that this is the way the offense should look like was supposed to look like from the jump.
- 23:37[SPEAKER_02]: Now that said, we could be sitting here in two years talking about Jason Whitten, you know, this being the start of
- 23:46[SPEAKER_02]: the realization of just how good a coach Jason Witton was going to be and I think there were some really good signs there early from him obviously you've got to be able to do it in a consistent fashion and again, so what I was talking about earlier do it when teams sort of can track a little bit better with your tendencies and things like that, but
- 24:09[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot to like about Jason Whitton's play call in game tonight, and I think there's going to be some things that are going to translate.
- 24:17[SPEAKER_02]: I think Jason Whitton is ultimately going to be a really good coach, whether that's as an offensive coordinator or as a head coach.
- 24:25[SPEAKER_02]: Not very often are really good players able to translate things.
- 24:31[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 24:32[SPEAKER_02]: And to just your ordinary average Joe's that are gonna make up most of your team.
- 24:40[SPEAKER_02]: But it just seems like Jason Witton has something where he's able to connect.
- 24:45[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's just the fact that tight ends are a little bit different and offensive linemen to some extent are a little bit different in that regard.
- 24:52[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, really like certainly what we've seen for Jason Whitton all season, but today, it looked like a next turn in the, you know, coaching path of Jason Whitton.
- 25:07[SPEAKER_02]: But also, I think this is what the offense should have looked like all along, spreading the ball out, the ability to run a football, using John the Tier, John the Tier's legs to your benefit, and things like that.
- 25:20[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and even starting off the game by setting up jommets here to have nice, easy throws to get him acclimated to the game, not rolling him to one side and giving him one window and it's probably double coverage so you have to throw it away or eat the player.
- 25:36[SPEAKER_00]: He takes a bad sack.
- 25:38[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, too many times did we see that out of Ben Arbuckle in terms of things you think about, sorry, you've got to think about the first play, you know, last week where they third Isaiah satania on the sideline and it just gets blown up right there and it was just, you know, things like that where you didn't ever feel like.
- 25:58[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you saw what Ben Arbuckle was trying to do and get him into a rhythm.
- 26:01[SPEAKER_02]: But there still wasn't a chance to re-release successful with it.
- 26:06[SPEAKER_02]: It was just, hey, let's complete a pass for the sake of completing a pass.
- 26:11[SPEAKER_02]: Today, it felt like there was actually some hope to succeed with those things.
- 26:19[SPEAKER_02]: And certainly they were able to take advantage and score on their first two drives for the first time since they joined the SEC.
- 26:29[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and maybe this might be corny to some, but just as an observation watching the broadcast, because the camera happened to catch this.
- 26:37[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you guys remember this particular play, but I mean, I've had a lot of questions, like whenever I'm on the field shooting of highlights for us getting B-roll, there have been times where I just have the camera ISOed on to Brent Vembles for a particular player situation.
- 26:52[SPEAKER_00]: And I've done the same thing with Ben Arbuckle.
- 26:55[SPEAKER_00]: I just have questioned like the presence of mind with some of the coaches on this staff because it just seems like there's nobody, nobody has this sense of like this we've got to do we've got to be on our peasing keys we've got to execute here that's never really the case when Oklahoma's on defensive course we know that printman was one of the better defensive minds in all of college football but on offense I've just always had those questions.
- 27:22[SPEAKER_00]: many choice ran and in route and I guess he was supposed to run out because that's where John went to your through it and I just thought oh like John either made a bad throw or there's a miscommunication what have you many choice runs off the field Jason Whitten follows him and then just choose his rear end out.
- 27:41[SPEAKER_00]: That's not something I ever really saw in our buckledoo.
- 27:44[SPEAKER_00]: Does that mean Jason Whitten is an amazing offensive court?
- 27:47[SPEAKER_00]: No, but the bar is extremely low right now.
- 27:50[SPEAKER_00]: And so seeing a coach have the awareness or the accountability like, hey, like we're playing well in all that stuff.
- 27:57[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
- 27:58[SPEAKER_00]: But you screwed up on this play and that is not acceptable.
- 28:01[SPEAKER_00]: And so seeing that accountability on the offensive side of the ball, John was a breath of fresh air considering how well they played
- 28:09[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the play you're talking about.
- 28:11[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the bust, but I didn't see the follow-up butchewing it came with it.
- 28:16[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he ran a wrong route again the rest of the time.
- 28:20[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he caught two passes in that fourth quarter drive that were, or at least later in the game that were important.
- 28:26[SPEAKER_01]: Although he's probably out of work on that ball security a little bit stretching that thing out for an extra yard when you're inside the numbers almost, I mean, that's not safe at all.
- 28:35[SPEAKER_01]: But no, you're right.
- 28:37[SPEAKER_01]: That's something that as we go back to the to the Jeff Lab era for, you know, coaching for Brent Benbles offense of accountability is not something that has been emphasized, you know, whether it's for the offensive coordinator himself or, you know, quarterback throws a bad pass, throws a dumb pass.
- 28:57[SPEAKER_01]: That those things have been kind of swept under the PR rug, so to speak, and I'm sure Jason Witton, you know, if you asked it and about it, he probably say, oh, you know, no big deal.
- 29:07[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, yet, here he was on national television, dressing down a guy who made a mistake that nearly was, you know, a really crucial thing, a really crucial breakdown.
- 29:18[SPEAKER_01]: And he just wanted to get his attention and say, hey, that almost screwed us up.
- 29:23[SPEAKER_01]: Don't do it again.
- 29:23[SPEAKER_01]: Pay attention when I say this, what's the safety doing?
- 29:26[SPEAKER_01]: Look at his eyes, look at his belt buckle, you know, whatever the keys are, whatever the flags that they raise on before the snap happens,
- 29:36[SPEAKER_01]: Jason Whitton got his point across and that's something that you're right, it hasn't always happened.
- 29:42[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and accountability on the offensive side of the ball in terms of the coaching staff, the leadership, the adults in the room.
- 29:48[SPEAKER_00]: That's always been
- 29:52[SPEAKER_00]: maybe sometimes it's not a question because obviously they made the call about playoff last year.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_00]: They won 10 games and Brent Venomals is second year, but it's always been kind of just there.
- 30:03[SPEAKER_00]: There's always been the thought like, is there a different standard on defense compared to the offense?
- 30:09[SPEAKER_00]: Because we've seen, I mean, Danny, a boy, I started off this game on fire tonight, but against Kentucky a few weeks ago, he makes one mistake and he rides the bench.
- 30:18[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, on offense, understanding that quarterback is the most unique position in sports and offense is not defense where defense really in order to build a great defense, you have to have over 20 guys that you can really depend on because of the constant rotations that preventables likes to have, it's not the same for the offense, it's even understanding that Ryan.
- 30:41[SPEAKER_00]: it really is hard to run away from even if Brentman will says there is no standard or difference of standard on offensive defense.
- 30:48[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard to run away from that because it's like it seems like there is.
- 30:52[SPEAKER_00]: But seeing Jason Whitton just in that moment, again, it's just a tiny little observation that really could mean nothing but considering that they looked awesome tonight.
- 30:59[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard not to look at that and buy into it.
- 31:02[SPEAKER_00]: It really does seem like there is an adult running this offense right now.
- 31:07[SPEAKER_00]: Does that mean that they will be Ole Miss next week?
- 31:09[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not because when loss, when loss, when loss is undefeated so far, but it does at least show that maybe they found an adult to run this offense for the first time in some time.
- 31:23[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you talk about the accountability on the defense side and that's because
- 31:28[SPEAKER_02]: Brent Venables controls that and we hear Brent Venables come in even after some really good defensive performances when I haven't, maybe necessarily one football games, but moaning some of the errors that they made on the defensive side, some little minor things that cost them and really focusing in on those.
- 31:51[SPEAKER_02]: and you've got to have a guy who is in charge on that side of the ball to set the tone and that hasn't been been our buckle for whether he's seated that to position coaches or whatever
- 32:08[SPEAKER_02]: there wasn't that tone set or among the offensive coaches to really do that.
- 32:14[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, yes, we'll see how it ultimately turns out.
- 32:18[SPEAKER_02]: And if that's something that carries over.
- 32:21[SPEAKER_02]: But certainly tonight, I thought you saw leadership there in a way that we haven't seen out out of the offensive staff.
- 32:31[SPEAKER_02]: You know, certainly since since Jeff Leppy left, maybe since, you know, Brent Vettables started as head coach and it's something that certainly made an impression just from watching the game on TV today and, you know,
- 32:49[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's something that I think they're going to need in order to continue getting the best out of this group and continue to find people who can make plays outside of, you know, John Meteer when he's okay, when he's the good John Meteer and Isaiah Satanian Rocky beers, because they're certainly going to need it if they are going to break
- 33:20[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and also Ole Miss just absolutely annihilated tonight by the Georgia Bulldogs Ole Miss was that it was that in Oxford was that it was that an Ole Miss home game.
- 33:32[SPEAKER_02]: Good night.
- 33:34[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we see teams bounce back from very embarrassing performances and losses.
- 33:39[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, oh, you just did that this evening from that abysmal performance against South Carolina last week.
- 33:46[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess that's a good little segue before we should be welcoming Ryan Chapman on at some point in the very near future, hopefully.
- 33:54[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess in the meantime, Gents, we can segue over to the defense because again, this was a unit that was somewhat questioned.
- 34:04[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan is a text he's not going to be able to join because he can't get back into the pressbox That's not good.
- 34:10[SPEAKER_00]: That's not ideal Hopefully he has his stuff.
- 34:15[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hopefully he has all the stuff.
- 34:17[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be sleeping in the locker tonight.
- 34:19[SPEAKER_01]: I hope
- 34:20[SPEAKER_00]: The visors of the block, the swamp, he got the Ryan Chapman scooter got stuck and the swamp and you don't you don't want to see that.
- 34:29[SPEAKER_00]: Well, prayers for Ryan Chapman.
- 34:31[SPEAKER_00]: We hope that he can find lodging and get his stuff because that that is not fun.
- 34:38[SPEAKER_00]: Very odd that most I guess most of the SEC just has these had these weird.
- 34:43[SPEAKER_00]: press box rules or you can only work here in the city and for what an hour and then go home.
- 34:48[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, oh, he was like, yeah, you can stay here as long as you want.
- 34:50[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, jabbing and I've walked out of there at like 430 in the morning.
- 34:54[SPEAKER_00]: I think pretty pretty late.
- 34:56[SPEAKER_01]: Fort four a.m. Not a stretch for us.
- 34:59[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
- 35:00[SPEAKER_01]: We've been shut.
- 35:01[SPEAKER_01]: We've been escort not escorting that.
- 35:03[SPEAKER_01]: We've left the OU press box when the morning shift has arrived.
- 35:08[SPEAKER_01]: The morning shift security team has
- 35:17[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, again, thoughts and prayers for Ryan Chapman as he makes his way back to Oklahoma over the next 24 to 48 hours.
- 35:24[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess let's move over to the defense chance because again, it was a unit that wasn't exactly questioned because I don't want to say that their performance against South Carolina was hand-wave.
- 35:33[SPEAKER_00]: But when you've consistently been in an elite, one of the best units in the country we can in a week out for the latter part of the last two years,
- 35:41[SPEAKER_00]: it's really hard to just kind of look at what happened last week and go you know it was bound to happen when you have an inconsistent too bad offense an offensive court here that we all kind of felt like even going into that game against South Carolina was
- 35:54[SPEAKER_00]: it might happen this coming week, it might happen at the end of the season, but this is going to end for Ben Arbuckle.
- 36:00[SPEAKER_00]: John Meteer is also nowhere near the quarterback that owe you fans in vision when he came from Washington state.
- 36:07[SPEAKER_00]: So at some point, the dams are going to break right.
- 36:09[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess it should break when you're playing a quarterback like La Nore sellers that when he's on, he's one of the more talented quarterbacks in the entire country than the defense had a bad day.
- 36:20[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of assume that the bounce back would happen.
- 36:22[SPEAKER_00]: The question was just going to be, well, can they sustain it if the offense kind of falls into a rut fortunately for them?
- 36:28[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't really, like the beginning of the third quarter was kind of a slog, but it was a slog for Florida's offense as well, because the defense did not wither away Ryan.
- 36:37[SPEAKER_00]: So a great return to form for Brent Minibles and this defense, a great return to form for guys like going high in a key, Reggie Powers.
- 36:46[SPEAKER_00]: Eli Bowen makes his return to the field and played pretty well.
- 36:50[SPEAKER_00]: considering he had missed what the better part of a month since just randomly hurting his ankle a day before the OU Texas game.
- 37:04[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he was in good coverage or if he just kind of got lucky just right place the right time he made a great play he had been in good coverage.
- 37:15[SPEAKER_02]: At least two plays shortly before that.
- 37:18[SPEAKER_02]: I think one of them he got away with a bit of a pass interference.
- 37:22[SPEAKER_00]: He did.
- 37:23[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, still pretty good coverage there.
- 37:27[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, just a big time interception there as Florida looked like they were about to have a chance to get a touchdown and be right back into the game.
- 37:37[SPEAKER_02]: And then that interception really was able to turn
- 37:45[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the second area, especially was excellent tonight.
- 37:48[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just looking over the very preliminary profile focus numbers, I know they'll change pretty significantly here over the next couple of hours, and then in the next 24 hours, but you know.
- 38:01[SPEAKER_02]: In the top 10 for OU defensively, you see Eli Bowen, a quarterly delivery, Reggie Powers, Michael Bowenowski, Omerian Robinson, Peyton Bowen, I mean, those are all in the top nine, actually, among all defenders in this game, all grading out above 66, which is a really good number there, and just a really total defensive performance for the sinners.
- 38:29[SPEAKER_02]: I believe
- 38:30[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.
- 38:31[SPEAKER_02]: What did Florida finish with yardage wise?
- 38:35[SPEAKER_02]: Just a little bit over 200.
- 38:38[SPEAKER_02]: I believe I was checking some stuff earlier.
- 38:42[SPEAKER_02]: I believe this is the lowest Florida yardage and an SEC game since 2015.
- 38:49[SPEAKER_02]: So it had been over a decade since Florida had been held to this and that was in the SEC championship game that year.
- 38:58[SPEAKER_02]: I think it had been a couple of years before that if you look at regular season games so a very impressive performance by this defense all three levels.
- 39:07[SPEAKER_02]: The missed tackling that was in a problem last week was.
- 39:12[SPEAKER_02]: cleaned up for the most part and they just made uh... tremelle jones have to work for every ounce of everything that he was gaining and outside of the one fantastic play that jane bob made they really bottled him up as well i was just i was just getting ready to mention tremelle jones uh... ten of twenty two hundred thirty three yards and not touched out two picks uh... efficiency rating of seventy eight
- 39:39[SPEAKER_01]: He was no threat running the football 11 carries for seven yards.
- 39:42[SPEAKER_01]: Two of those three of those were sex, I guess.
- 39:44[SPEAKER_00]: There's just a bunch of outlet passes.
- 39:45[SPEAKER_00]: That's all I get.
- 39:46[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was just running back running back.
- 39:48[SPEAKER_01]: But I got here's what my take away from that from him.
- 39:51[SPEAKER_01]: Making his first career start for the Gators.
- 39:55[SPEAKER_01]: Is that Brent?
- 39:57[SPEAKER_01]: Second career start.
- 39:58[SPEAKER_01]: First in the swamp.
- 40:00[SPEAKER_01]: First in the swamp.
- 40:00[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 40:02[SPEAKER_01]: Brent was kind of playing with his food a little bit when it comes to him.
- 40:06[SPEAKER_01]: Tremel Jones.
- 40:08[SPEAKER_01]: It reminded me of something like you're playing keep away on the playground and there's this kid that's bigger than everybody else or maybe in this case there's a kid that's little or than everybody else and everybody's just knocking him down and that's kind of what it reminded me of.
- 40:22[SPEAKER_01]: Brent was kind of bullying him at some point.
- 40:24[SPEAKER_01]: Send him blitzes from, I mean at what point it was a race to the quarterback and Owen Heinecki and Reggie Powers won because they're faster than the
- 40:35[SPEAKER_01]: the delignment and the deans that were that were coming as well.
- 40:38[SPEAKER_01]: It was, uh, he, he was under fire and he was, he did a good job getting away, not getting sacked eight or nine times, but he was chased.
- 40:46[SPEAKER_01]: He was pressured.
- 40:47[SPEAKER_01]: He was hurried.
- 40:48[SPEAKER_01]: He couldn't set his feet.
- 40:50[SPEAKER_01]: And that was, that's a testament to Brent and his, his defensive, like, hey, this guy doesn't know what he's doing.
- 40:56[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go get him, you know, kind of mentality.
- 40:59[SPEAKER_00]: going back to what Ryan was saying a little bit earlier in terms of like the what the lowest that Florida has been held in an SEC game in some time.
- 41:07[SPEAKER_00]: There's quite a bit of first in this game.
- 41:09[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we already mentioned the 20 play drive, the longest drive in OU history over the last 54 years, incredible, possibly an indictment, a fabulous under an indictment for Brett Venibals.
- 41:24[SPEAKER_00]: This was the first time since joining the SEC that OU scored on their first two possessions of the game, a field goal and a touchdown.
- 41:32[SPEAKER_00]: Just 22 games, 22 conference games, and the first time they've scored on their opening two drives.
- 41:40[SPEAKER_00]: It's a much more difficult conference than the big 12, but I don't know if it's supposed to be that difficult.
- 41:47[SPEAKER_00]: Not the coolest thing to see at the time, and I think Toby Roland said this on the broadcast.
- 41:54[SPEAKER_00]: I was listening to the radio on my drive home, and I don't, he didn't say who it was, but it's the first time in 38 years that a team came into the swamp for the first time in their school
- 42:10[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't have been my hammy because they've surely played well before that time, but maybe they didn't because the SEC had very weird scheduling policies for the majority of its history, but, I mean, I'm 36, so it had just been right around the late 80s, I guess, the image.
- 42:31[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see who, well, my guess is in 88 they lost to two teams in the swamp, Vanderbilt's and Florida State.
- 42:46[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, Florida State was an independent for a very long time, but I just always I've always assumed that the major Florida schools have always played each other, but maybe maybe not.
- 42:56[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, a lot of a lot of big first days, they certainly played Florida State before, so surely that wouldn't have been the first time they'd played Vanderbilt in the swamp, but maybe it was.
- 43:08[SPEAKER_00]: Oh well.
- 43:09[SPEAKER_00]: I'll look that up someday when I'm bored.
- 43:13[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the other thing with this game in terms of the defense guys, I was really concerned about the rush defense coming into this game because I think oh, use defense this year has taken a minor step back from the unit last year and I think a lot of that is, hey, great.
- 43:33[SPEAKER_00]: Mason Holton is really good.
- 43:35[SPEAKER_00]: Just watch the San Francisco 49ers right now.
- 43:38[SPEAKER_00]: And replacing him has been rather difficult.
- 43:40[SPEAKER_00]: Now that's not to say that guys like Trent Wilson, Bishop Thomas, Nigel Smith, haven't been really good as guys who have not played for OU really that much before this season.
- 43:51[SPEAKER_00]: They've certainly been great, but Grace and Holton has been quite the
- 43:56[SPEAKER_00]: the player the type of player to replace.
- 43:58[SPEAKER_00]: But I think just overall like the rush defense just isn't as consistently great as it was last year.
- 44:04[SPEAKER_00]: I think everywhere else it's either kind of neutral to last year or slightly better, especially in the secondary in terms of past coverage.
- 44:10[SPEAKER_00]: But
- 44:12[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, going back two weeks ago, Bothwell, the Mississippi State running back goes over 100 first opposing running back to go over 100 since Michigan's Justice Haines last year when you could be Michigan and Norman.
- 44:24[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, the performance against South Carolina this past week where I did
- 44:28[SPEAKER_00]: lnore sellers didn't go for a hundred and yet ninety six think they're running back at eighty or seventy yards but how many of those yards were after contact it was just a really bad performance and knowing that if ordered does anything well it's hand the ball off hand the ball off the jade ball and he goes in cooks
- 44:45[SPEAKER_00]: And there were some moments where it felt like, oh, is it about to happen?
- 44:47[SPEAKER_00]: But the defense, John, just continuously kind of recalibrated, kind of understood all they're doing is running outlets and then running up the A-gap.
- 44:57[SPEAKER_00]: Surely we can stop this.
- 44:59[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's defense ended up answering that call in fathomically.
- 45:02[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought the secondary played okay in coverage that played athletically, they played okay.
- 45:07[SPEAKER_01]: And that allowed them to the way they were dominating up front.
- 45:12[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have to stack the box.
- 45:13[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have to run a seven, eight, nine guys on every play to stack the box like that, because the secondary's capable enough against a young, young quarterback, like I said earlier, doesn't know what he's doing against the Brent Vennables defense.
- 45:30[SPEAKER_01]: They were capable enough to keep them at bay and man up and stop the run, even with Jayden Barr, who's really one of the more talented running
- 45:41[SPEAKER_01]: physically speaking.
- 45:43[SPEAKER_01]: They were able to shut him down and when when you're one dimensional like that, you know, you can play straight up or you can blitz or you can stack the box if you want to or you can run you can drop eight whatever you want to do when when the offense you're facing is one dimensional.
- 45:59[SPEAKER_01]: So gators made a change of quarterback and that's the direction they're going.
- 46:05[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't I
- 46:11[SPEAKER_01]: uh... but uh... he probably got he probably grew a lot ruined about reminds me just a little tiny bit of the two thousand four or you taxis games but my first all you taxis game that i covered were vince young who's threatened out there strode out there and said i'm vince freaking young and they shut him out twelve nothing and from that point on mac brown yelda's coaches and said you guys stop coaching him and just let him play football and in it he didn't lose another game
- 46:36[SPEAKER_01]: He's not venturing.
- 46:37[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying there's a little bit of that there where Brent said let's go get him.
- 46:40[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't know what he did be Texas.
- 46:42[SPEAKER_00]: He did be Texas, right.
- 46:43[SPEAKER_00]: He was the guy who started in Austin correct.
- 46:45[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is right.
- 46:46[SPEAKER_00]: The week, the week after the OU loss.
- 46:48[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he's got that going for him at least.
- 46:50[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan, you have, you have an answer to the first team or the last time a team came into the swamp for the first time and one 38 years ago.
- 46:58[SPEAKER_00]: Who is it?
- 47:00[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, first of all, who I'm disappointed that you didn't give your second Matt Brown in personation of the the night as you're saying that about this opportunity missed opportunity.
- 47:12[SPEAKER_00]: It really was was that the was that though we ran out of time gamer was that 2002.
- 47:19[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was okay.
- 47:21[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't lose.
- 47:22[SPEAKER_00]: We just ran out of time.
- 47:22[SPEAKER_00]: So, well, I guess that's how it works.
- 47:26[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever you say, Matt, but yeah, I actually was looking to schedule a bit wrong.
- 47:31[SPEAKER_02]: The last team to win their first trip into the swamp was Memphis in 1988, October 8, 1988.
- 47:41[SPEAKER_02]: Memphis goes in as an independent and knocks off the 14th ranked Gator 17 to 11.
- 47:51[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, two years to the day before I was born.
- 47:53[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.
- 47:54[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
- 47:57[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, with the defense Ryan, I mean, obviously the easy thing to say here as Ford is best drive was their touchdown drive.
- 48:04[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think it was five or six plays.
- 48:07[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, first play was aided by an OU holding, so I think they got a nine-year rush on that play and they tacked on 10 more and so they were cooking straight from starting off from midfield and then they just boom, boom, boom, touchdown very quickly, but to me, I mean, that drive it into with the court and gallery interception.
- 48:26[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's a, excuse me, it's a moment where, oh, you had.
- 48:30[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like, oh, he's been in this situation.
- 48:32[SPEAKER_00]: They were, especially in this situation against Kentucky.
- 48:35[SPEAKER_00]: They could have been in that situation against New Mexico.
- 48:37[SPEAKER_00]: If a mistake had been made, a game where you have kind of controlled it, the offense, maybe less so with New Mexico.
- 48:48[SPEAKER_00]: But the offense has played relatively well.
- 48:52[SPEAKER_00]: But all of a sudden, because you just go three and out or something like, are you punt the ball away?
- 48:56[SPEAKER_00]: And the defense starts to just get gashed for a play.
- 48:58[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the big play on this drive was a 33 yard explosive on a running back screen on 3rd and 10, which is not a good look.
- 49:06[SPEAKER_00]: And I think John's a year point earlier about Brent kind of playing with his food.
- 49:11[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, absolutely just.
- 49:13[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of blitzing from the edge and the running back just is able to squirt out and just be open for 25 yards before he gets touched and that spot, but it's a situation where if the defense gives up a touchdown.
- 49:26[SPEAKER_00]: and your geometry and Jason went in the offense, you are now down a point and a game that you feel very good in.
- 49:34[SPEAKER_00]: So for the defense Ryan to kind of stand tall and while, yeah, it was a bad throw on Florida's part, but the pressure by Owen Heineke and I think Reggie Powers to force the bad throw kind of plays into oh, you being able to get the turnover anyway.
- 49:50[SPEAKER_00]: So I just thought even though all the headlines in rightfully so are they're going to go to the 2020 play offensive drive for Oklahoma, that was probably the most important sequence of plays in my opinion for you to be able to come out of this game with a victory.
- 50:07[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no doubt about it and they were able to stop Tremel Jones on third down a third and four play.
- 50:16[SPEAKER_02]: They were able to stop him for a one-yard game there with a Koye and Lewis coming up big and then obviously leading into that interception, which really
- 50:27[SPEAKER_02]: You know, didn't quite put the game away.
- 50:29[SPEAKER_02]: You would say certainly because, you know, a few, few drives later, they had to go on that massive 20 play one.
- 50:36[SPEAKER_02]: But at least, even though it wasn't the next drive, at least started setting up, setting things in motion to, to get the sooner's there after, Gilleries, big time interception.
- 50:50[SPEAKER_02]: And just again, one of the best performances,
- 50:57[SPEAKER_02]: in quite a while and you know, wasn't anything really flashy outside of the interceptions there, but just got the job done and in keeping jones, keeping those great Florida wide receivers really bottled up and making life difficult on them all day long.
- 51:20[SPEAKER_01]: I got a guy's a quick update Ryan did Ryan Chapman did get back into the press box back to the press box he was landed he's gonna go for a process one of those nights you guys we're just gonna go from the press box to the airport you got like a six a.m.
- 51:37[SPEAKER_01]: It's currently 1 a.m. their time east coast time and I guess he's riding back with Tom Green and I'm gonna go straight to the airport and that's no fun.
- 51:50[SPEAKER_00]: this game was kind of fun.
- 51:52[SPEAKER_00]: At least, you know, everybody around here is going to be kind of happy.
- 51:56[SPEAKER_00]: I guess.
- 51:57[SPEAKER_01]: And a little context for you on this place.
- 51:59[SPEAKER_01]: The last team to go into the swamp, and when it's first ever game was 1988, you said, Yeah, 1989, the Florida Gators got so tired of losing that they hired a guy by the name of Steve Spurier, the following season.
- 52:16[SPEAKER_01]: the person he replaced the coach he replaced former sooner offensive coordinator Gailin Hall.
- 52:22[SPEAKER_01]: It was fine.
- 52:23[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
- 52:23[SPEAKER_01]: Season 80.
- 52:25[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say, I love college football history.
- 52:29[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't tell I couldn't have told you any coach before Steve Spurrier for the Florida Gators.
- 52:34[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why.
- 52:34[SPEAKER_00]: I just, it is a complete and utter blind spot as just that part of the country in terms of its college football.
- 52:40[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, to be fair, they weren't generally very good.
- 52:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 52:44[SPEAKER_02]: So Steve Spurrier got there.
- 52:46[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, obviously, Spurrier won the Heisman and what the 60s and I guess, and they were probably good that year, but other than that, they're, they're continuing to, yeah, they're a mom and power.
- 52:58[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, 66, I did golden boy win it in 63 after his team went like four seven and one or something like that.
- 53:06[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and you didn't have to have a big, great game.
- 53:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you just had to have like a golden helmet or something like that to win the Heisman back then.
- 53:15[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, no one's wouldn't eyes been for Oklahoma this year, but at least they had an offensive performance to remember now.
- 53:22[SPEAKER_01]: Jason, I guess now to the year after this performance, no kidding, there could be a heisman in the state of Oklahoma.
- 53:30[SPEAKER_02]: because true mess to make her looked really good today.
- 53:34[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 53:35[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, oh, she was still scoring and they were running it up too.
- 53:39[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, wow, they are really mad about last weekend.
- 53:44[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, that's what you want to see.
- 53:45[SPEAKER_00]: Just go up there and run out of the score.
- 53:46[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.
- 53:47[SPEAKER_00]: They're all getting paid.
- 53:48[SPEAKER_00]: They're all adults now, so it's going to be fine.
- 53:50[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be fine.
- 53:52[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess like the final thoughts not necessarily I thought it's about this game guys, but moving forward because of course Oh you Three games left on the season Two game homestand against Ole Miss next week and then text saying him before going on the road for their regular season finale against the Missouri Tigers
- 54:11[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, does this performance, Ryan, does it do anything different about how you're attacking this team?
- 54:18[SPEAKER_00]: Not necessarily aggressively attacking them, but how you're like coming about this team, moving forward, projecting how they should perform, projecting how these games could be able to go.
- 54:28[SPEAKER_00]: Turned-out Jameless is that guy.
- 54:31[SPEAKER_00]: They were, like I said earlier, spanked by Georgia a few hours ago, so they're gonna come in highly motivated to put that loss behind them.
- 54:39[SPEAKER_00]: but does Jason Witton's performance as the offensive coordinator against Florida?
- 54:43[SPEAKER_00]: Does it give you any, I guess, hope that, hey, maybe they can Oklahoma can somewhat salvage their season.
- 54:51[SPEAKER_00]: Not fully, because I already wrote it on the website a few days ago.
- 54:55[SPEAKER_00]: It's a disaster even if they go eight and four when they're final four games, but they can salvage some semblance of their honor, at least if they're able to do that.
- 55:04[SPEAKER_00]: Does this performance do anything for you to go that direction?
- 55:07[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think absolutely because it makes you feel like, hey, this offense at least can show some semblance of life against a team that has been fairly good on defense for most of the year, even considering their struggles of last week.
- 55:25[SPEAKER_02]: And it, again, it feels like there's an adult in charge of this thing and that they can at least adjust and come up with it with ways to attack opposing teams that maybe unique creative ways to to find ways to move the football and
- 55:45[SPEAKER_02]: There's at least hope, not saying it's going to happen.
- 55:48[SPEAKER_02]: They've still got some really tough games on the horizon, but certainly, you know, given what Ole Miss did tonight, given what we saw to Texas A&M, with their loss to South Carolina, even with a one-legged Linaura sellers for a late-night game.
- 56:05[SPEAKER_02]: You at least feel like there's a chance to salvage this thing.
- 56:10[SPEAKER_02]: Still won't be a good season, certainly won't be a great season, but you can at least build some momentum in or any off season.
- 56:19[SPEAKER_00]: I think the big thing would just to be you avoid a disaster of like another six and six or perhaps worse, but I guess same question, John, does this performance do anything for you to maybe be a little bit more optimistic about oh use chances to finish eight and four?
- 56:34[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, first Jason Witton, that's the first factor, but secondly, you got a real even even the most hopeful, most optimistic, oh, you fan would look at this game and say, yeah, but it's win loss, win loss, win loss, win loss, you know, can we string two wins together, is what the most optimistic fan is saying right now.
- 56:59[SPEAKER_01]: This team of skits of friend of guys, I think this is the fifth week in a row, I'm not
- 57:04[SPEAKER_01]: fifth week and row that i've not been able to pick a winner i have picked them to win and they lose i picked them to lose and they win i picked them to win and they lose i picked them to lose and they win and they just keep doing that they so what's the mindset of these guys of the players going forward especially with a coaching change now can they can can this be something real intangible when you talk about uh... bringing uh... jason witton off the out of the bullpen so to speak
- 57:32[SPEAKER_01]: and closing this thing out.
- 57:33[SPEAKER_01]: Is it real?
- 57:34[SPEAKER_01]: Is it going to last?
- 57:35[SPEAKER_01]: Is it, you know, can, is this something they can hang their hat on?
- 57:38[SPEAKER_01]: Literally.
- 57:40[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 57:40[SPEAKER_01]: I, I've, given up, I can't figure out what the hell this team's going to do next.
- 57:46[SPEAKER_01]: So, I just, I'm going to hang on and try to enjoy the ride.
- 57:51[SPEAKER_01]: At least it makes it entertaining, right?
- 57:53[SPEAKER_01]: It is entertaining every week.
- 57:55[SPEAKER_01]: I'm necessarily so, but it's entertaining.
- 58:00[SPEAKER_00]: Oh boy, well, we'll cross that bridge when we get there, but it's never a dull moment, even if OU is bad, they're giving us stuff to talk about the very least, so they're doing their job there.
- 58:11[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming we'll get to talk to players on Monday.
- 58:13[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be great.
- 58:14[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do that stuff again.
- 58:16[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get back to normalcy in that respect.
- 58:18[SPEAKER_00]: But again, Oklahoma goes to the swamp the first time in program history and they leave victorious
- 58:28[SPEAKER_00]: five and four three and three in conference looking for a chance to break that win loss win loss win loss thing they got going on.
- 58:38[SPEAKER_00]: But when they host the Ole Miss rebels next Saturday.
- 58:42[SPEAKER_00]: So looking forward to that also a shout out to Ryan Chapman for being down in Gainesville holding the down for us here at Oklahoma Seniors on SI.
- 58:51[SPEAKER_00]: Good news that he got into the press box and got
- 58:54[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, hey, hey, can't wait to see Ryan back.
- 58:57[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he's gonna have a lot of fun stories to tell, but any final thoughts, gentlemen, before we get out of here?
- 59:05[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
- 59:07[SPEAKER_02]: Let's remember who a defensive analyst on that old mis team is, he'll be making his trial foot return to Norman next week.
- 59:16[SPEAKER_02]: Mike Stoops.
- 59:20[SPEAKER_02]: He's an analyst for Ole Miss, when did this happen?
- 59:25[SPEAKER_02]: I honestly didn't realize it until it was looking some stuff up earlier today, but yeah, apparently he is an analyst on the Ole Miss staff currently.
- 59:36[SPEAKER_01]: Dupes versus Venables, who would have ever thought?
- 59:43[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I am not prepared for that and I'm usually unprepared for something like that.
- 59:47[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not prepared But we've got an entire week to get prepared for that, but that's going to wrap it up here for all of us here at Oklahoma Sooner's on-est side.
- 59:55[SPEAKER_00]: Go check out the website Ryan is pumping out stories at least we speed keep it done and Fantastic job So far he's going to continue doing a fantastic job as he makes his way back to the 405 so long for
- 1:00:08[SPEAKER_00]: to seeing him again, safe travels to Ryan, and thank you again to John Hoover, Ryan Aber, staying up with me, ready to trance them to talk about this game.
- 1:00:15[SPEAKER_00]: But again, 237 Oklahoma wins five and four on the season three games left.
- 1:00:20[SPEAKER_00]: So that's either a good or a bad thing, depending on how you've looked at this entire season if you're a gigantic guy in a go-of-you fan.
- 1:00:25[SPEAKER_00]: But again, thank you everybody for listening to the Oklahoma Seniors on the Psych podcast and following us along, social media and on the website.
- 1:00:32[SPEAKER_00]: Until next time, we will talk to you later.