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S4 E37: Little Brother · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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Speaker 1: Fifteen decrease.
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Speaker 2: You can see your breath out in the look effect
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Speaker 2: breaking tables like guitar would you.
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Speaker 1: Wherese would you have to be?
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Speaker 2: And to Ron Elvis in the ley, Panchow remembers that
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Speaker 2: you need to know I sut you out here now
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Speaker 2: your family?
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Speaker 3: Where's would you have to be?
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Speaker 4: Where's would you have be? Welcome into the Nickel City Crew.
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Speaker 4: I am your host, Rob Crippen.
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Speaker 5: Please like us on Facebook and follow us on Instagram
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Speaker 5: and Twitter at Nickel City Crew. This episode, along with
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Speaker 5: here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so glad that
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Speaker 5: you're joining us for some of your Buffalo bills and
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Speaker 5: NFL content again today, and as always, these are my
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Speaker 5: bills thoughts set out loud.
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Speaker 2: It's about so ridiculous two story, the Sady three was
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Speaker 2: six this I can like, Where's.
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Speaker 1: Would you like to be?
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Speaker 4: All right, let's get straight to it.
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Speaker 5: Really excited for this afternoon's episode for a myriad of reasons.
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Speaker 5: One of the things that nicol City Crew has brought
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Speaker 5: to me is an opportunity to kind of have a
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Speaker 5: chance to just work through it.
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Speaker 4: Almost like a therapy session.
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Speaker 5: DT and I always joke about paying the lady at
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Speaker 5: the front desk and giving her our Bill's Mafia card
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Speaker 5: and then laying down on the couch and just kind
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Speaker 5: of working it out. And it's funny because I've had
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Speaker 5: so many different thoughts throughout the week, and you hear
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Speaker 5: all the different narratives going around and different things like that,
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Speaker 5: and I just there's things that I need to get
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Speaker 5: off my chest. And that's literally the impetus of the episode.
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Speaker 5: Bill's thoughts said out loud. Joining me this afternoon, my
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Speaker 5: co host writing Shotgun, Adam Dump Truck Repsick. Check them
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Speaker 5: out on Instagram and Twitter at Adam Repsick, are you Pete,
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Speaker 5: c is e y k at the crew, DT. We
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Speaker 5: gotta do it. I mean, it's funny, we got it.
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Speaker 5: We have to do it. We gotta swallow the pill.
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Speaker 4: What's up? Man? Hey? What's up?
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Speaker 3: From What's on Nickel City?
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Speaker 6: You know, we were talking a little this week and
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Speaker 6: glad it was the end of the week because I
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Speaker 6: didn't want to do this Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, even yesterday,
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Speaker 6: to be honest, So give a couple of days to
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Speaker 6: you know, kind of to digest, and you know.
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Speaker 3: We'll we'll hash it out tonight and that's that's all
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Speaker 3: we can do. But it stinks.
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Speaker 6: It stinks, you know, obviously a tough loss and a
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Speaker 6: year with so much hope and we're right back where
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Speaker 6: we were and we're too far away from the draft
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Speaker 6: and the combine to like start getting excited. This is
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Speaker 6: just the dark days of Winner, man, the dark days
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Speaker 6: of Winner upon us, and we got to get through them.
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Speaker 6: And I guess my advice is, we've done it before,
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Speaker 6: so we can do it again.
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Speaker 3: But it's, uh, this was a tough one, man. Good
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Speaker 3: to be here, Good to be here.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I appreciate your time. It is a tough one.
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Speaker 5: And I was, you know, thinking about just how I
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Speaker 5: was gonna name the episode and what type of thoughts
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Speaker 5: I had, and before I get to that, you know,
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Speaker 5: I wanted some help. So I reached out and I
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Speaker 5: was like, you know what, there's one person that I
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Speaker 5: definitely definitely need to hear from and be consoled by.
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Speaker 5: You know, a kid when they're they're going through and
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Speaker 5: they bump their knee or or they bump their head,
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Speaker 5: they need the comfort of a mama. The Mama of
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Speaker 5: Nicol City Crew is here. The editor in chief at
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Speaker 5: Buffalo fan Base, the official Bill's Mafia podcast network that
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Speaker 5: DT and I simulcast on the incomparable Robin Munday. Check
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Speaker 5: her out on Instagram and Twitter at Robin Munday, w
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Speaker 5: Yo for Wyoming Halla at the Crew, Mama Monday, I
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Speaker 5: needed you, you know, I reached out to you early
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Speaker 5: this week and I said, I need you.
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Speaker 4: I need a hug. I need a Bil's Mafia hug.
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Speaker 4: I need one. I need to be consoled. I do.
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Speaker 7: I do let the crew and that's okay, because yeah,
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Speaker 7: I'm glad to be here.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you for joining us and always.
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Speaker 5: You know, we had him on a couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 5: and I love going back and forth with him and
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Speaker 5: giving him shit.
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Speaker 4: He gives me ship.
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Speaker 5: But I really truly do love this brother and love
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Speaker 5: the opportunity that he gave us the simlecast on his network.
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Speaker 4: Again.
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Speaker 5: Shout out to the Godfather do read, and shout out
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Speaker 5: again to Jay Spence the King for hooking us up.
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Speaker 4: The wonderful, unknowingly wonderful.
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Speaker 5: The creative director at Buffalo fan Base, Jay A seventeen
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Speaker 5: The Justice Holla at the crew, Justice General Radford, how
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Speaker 5: at the crew man, I'm happy to have you nervous.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes I love having you or the crew looks good.
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Speaker 4: In general. I so happy.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you you know, you have me on today.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 8: As I always say that I want to be like
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Speaker 8: calm and even killed. But like you guys are like
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Speaker 8: my brothers, you know what I mean, Like you know,
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Speaker 8: only guys in the world that can get me like
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Speaker 8: you know what I mean to a point where you
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Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. And then of course Auntie Robin,
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Speaker 8: who I love more than I love breathing air.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 4: So glad to be on with you. Guys. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.
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Speaker 5: Listen, everybody, I when I first thought about my notes
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Speaker 5: and stuff like that, it's funny because I'm the youngest
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Speaker 5: of six, and you know, it's funny. Nichol City Crew
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Speaker 5: Bill's bafia being the little brother. Sometimes it has it.
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Speaker 5: It's it's advantages, but a lot of times it just has.
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Speaker 5: It sucks sometimes because my closest brother in age is
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Speaker 5: seven years older than me, Mark, and it was funny
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Speaker 5: because he was like the Hulk to me. Basically, growing
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Speaker 5: up so seven years. That age gap is a little
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Speaker 5: bit different than even my Kings. They've got two year
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Speaker 5: age gaps and four and stuff like that. But like
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Speaker 5: for me growing up with my older brother, he was
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Speaker 5: so much older than me, he was so much bigger
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Speaker 5: and physically dominant that when we played sports, I just
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Speaker 5: I never stood a chance for many, many years. I
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Speaker 5: think I was a damn near a teenager by the
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Speaker 5: first time I actually was hanging with him in basketball
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Speaker 5: and he was a football star.
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Speaker 4: But I love basketball. Basketballs my first love. And it
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Speaker 4: took me.
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Speaker 5: I swear I was about fourteen fifteen too, I could
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Speaker 5: actually hang and come close to beating him. And after
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Speaker 5: that game DT, I was so gutted by the loss
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Speaker 5: because of the fact that I just felt like a
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Speaker 5: little brother mentality, like.
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Speaker 4: Man, I can't beat him, and it kind of it
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Speaker 4: kind of rushed over me.
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Speaker 5: And that's why I named the episode of the way
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Speaker 5: that I did DT because of the fact that.
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Speaker 4: They're they're better than us.
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Speaker 5: DT and and I don't want to hear and we'll
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Speaker 5: get it to it. I don't want to hear anything
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Speaker 5: about the refs. And I never wanted to use that
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Speaker 5: as a coping mechanism or anything like that, and we
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Speaker 5: can disagree on that later, crew, But DT, the thing
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Speaker 5: that really really just flooded over me was that, like, man,
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Speaker 5: they beat us, they were better than us in every
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Speaker 5: facet of the game, coaching, execution. It was a situation
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Speaker 5: where that game on Sunday, I just I just have
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Speaker 5: a tough time finding excuses other than the fact that
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Speaker 5: they were just better than us.
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Speaker 4: DT.
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Speaker 3: They really were, I agree, I mean, and.
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Speaker 4: That's fine. I'm ready to disagree with you with y'all
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Speaker 4: and I the.
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Speaker 6: Tough part, the tough part about this for me this
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Speaker 6: week is, you know, we didn't play a bad game.
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Speaker 6: You know, the game we put out there, the game
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Speaker 6: seventeen and the boys put out there probably beats the
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Speaker 6: other thirty teams in the league Sunday night. You know,
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Speaker 6: in all honesty, you know that's that's probably true. So
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Speaker 6: I I just all week just kind of phasing that
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Speaker 6: of the three phases of the game, m H, including coaching.
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Speaker 3: So make that the fourth phase of the game.
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Speaker 6: Okay, you know you're looking at you're looking at getting
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Speaker 6: out played right offensively, we didn't execute. We'll get into
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Speaker 6: it later, I'm sure. Breaking down the actual situations. Ok,
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Speaker 6: we didn't execute on the short yardage, we didn't execute
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Speaker 6: on a few screenplays, we didn't execute on some third
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Speaker 6: downs defensively, defensively didn't get the stop we needed, and
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Speaker 6: special teams had that long punt return for a touchdown.
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Speaker 6: Add that on to possibly getting out coached towards the end,
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Speaker 6: really all game, getting out coached the four phases. They
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Speaker 6: have an edge. You know, it's gonna be tough to
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Speaker 6: beat the Kansas City Chiefs at home. So the actual
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Speaker 6: game itself, yeah, they had the edge in all four phases.
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Speaker 3: We had to play perfect. We know we did.
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Speaker 6: Good isn't good enough. But the thing is, guys, we
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Speaker 6: knew this. Good isn't good enough and we knew this.
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Speaker 6: So that's what I'm battling with this week. Good isn't
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Speaker 6: good enough.
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Speaker 4: But we knew that, you know, Mama Monday.
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Speaker 5: It's funny because when I thought about that little brother mentality,
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Speaker 5: it was because of the fact that some of the
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Speaker 5: things that DT talked about, I mean, the coaching, it
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Speaker 5: was it was kind of clear to me, and not
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Speaker 5: just not just the last fourth and five and the
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Speaker 5: blitz that Spagnolo sent, it was it was just more
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Speaker 5: than that.
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Speaker 4: It was the short.
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Speaker 5: Yards like DT talked about, and I mean, after two
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Speaker 5: times of going for it or the pushbush, if it's
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Speaker 5: not working, we got to do something different.
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Speaker 4: What did Kansas City do?
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Speaker 5: They they blushed out mahomes and rolled them out and
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Speaker 5: got easy first downs on theirs. Now they obviously don't
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Speaker 5: do the pushbush, but it was more along the facts
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Speaker 5: of the lines of you know, Joe Brady is what
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Speaker 5: I do. It's been working all season, and I'm just
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Speaker 5: gonna do it after he gets stuffed a couple of times,
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Speaker 5: Let's pivot. Let's not do the same thing. Let's have
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Speaker 5: something some type of some type of adjustment. And I
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Speaker 5: just didn't see it. He talked about it. He put
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Speaker 5: the words out of the mouth that special things would
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Speaker 5: turned almost for textime back Omeggi or whatever his name.
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Speaker 5: I mean, that was that's crucial defensively, you don't you don't,
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Speaker 5: you don't stop them well, and we'll definitely get into
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Speaker 5: that because I wanted to up you know, I do
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Speaker 5: mam on Monday. It just seemed like we're outclassed in
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Speaker 5: every fast of the game. And it just leaves me
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Speaker 5: with that little brother mentality like he's bigger, he's stronger,
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Speaker 5: he's faster, and I just I don't. I can't physically
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Speaker 5: do anything with him. That's how I felt.
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Speaker 7: I think it's a good analogy. Yeah, I think it's
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Speaker 7: a very good analogy. But I'll back up the train,
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Speaker 7: okay just a little bit and say, I think that
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Speaker 7: our level of expectation as fans changed a lot over
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Speaker 7: the course of the season. And we have to remember
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Speaker 7: that this is the team that lost step On Diggs,
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Speaker 7: that we lost, capitals lost. You know, it was supposed
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Speaker 7: to be. It was built already, it was supposed to.
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Speaker 9: Be uhilayoffs just get it exactly, And so I can
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Speaker 9: appreciate as the course of the season went on things
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Speaker 9: changed in terms of our expectations.
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Speaker 7: But I think that you're right when you say in
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Speaker 7: DT the words out of my mouth too, they're just
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Speaker 7: better than us at this point, they're just better than us.
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Speaker 7: Now we're going to get into why that's the case,
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Speaker 7: and I have a few things to say about that,
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Speaker 7: but I do think just one thing to lead into it.
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Speaker 7: We have to talk about Joe Brady. We have to
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Speaker 7: talk about what happened because he's busy interviewing for head
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Speaker 7: coaching jobs, and you cannot tell me that that is
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Speaker 7: not a distraction. And I don't like the way the
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Speaker 7: NFL handles it, And I honestly think that the best
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Speaker 7: thing of all would be if all teams could not
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Speaker 7: do crap until the season is over, and that would
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Speaker 7: eliminate a lot of these problems. But that's just one
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Speaker 7: thing aside. But the good news is we are going
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Speaker 7: to survive this. We have the potential to get better.
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Speaker 7: I think it hurts right now and all we can
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Speaker 7: think about is the pain of going through another situation.
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Speaker 7: But let me lend a little perspective, if I may,
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Speaker 7: on the other side of the coin. Here. You are
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Speaker 7: the youngest of six. I'm an old woman, so Mama
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Speaker 7: Munday is very old. And Mama Mundy remembers the four
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Speaker 7: Super Bowl losses in a row. And there were a
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Speaker 7: few things that I took away from those four losses
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Speaker 7: in the ninety ease that I never lost sight of
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Speaker 7: after that, which is, don't put your expectations out there
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Speaker 7: so your heart can be broken. Always try to keep
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Speaker 7: at least a piece of you.
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Speaker 4: Really, Yes, yeah.
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Speaker 7: And it's something that we all have to work on.
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Speaker 7: It hurts.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it does, you know, because I actually I pride
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Speaker 5: myself on being a realist and I, you know, a
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Speaker 5: realist bills fan and I know a lot of times
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Speaker 5: that everybody wants to be a fan.
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Speaker 4: You know, fan is short for.
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Speaker 5: Fanatic and not get a lot of stuff on Twitter
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Speaker 5: about that because people will call me negative or pessimist.
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Speaker 5: But you know, a lot of times I'm just trying
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Speaker 5: to I am I think that, you know, subconsciously, I'm
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Speaker 5: trying to guard myself from different things.
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Speaker 4: But DT knows we had to recalibrate.
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Speaker 5: We literally had an episode Mama Monday called recalibrate as
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Speaker 5: they started to win because of the expectations had to change.
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Speaker 4: They were much better than we expected.
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Speaker 5: You know, Justice, It's it's funny because Mama Monday kind
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Speaker 5: of strikes on something a little bit sensitive because I
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Speaker 5: don't know about you, Justice, But like I set ten
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Speaker 5: and seven for the schedule preview. When the schedule came out,
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Speaker 5: I was like, you know, it's ten and seven, and
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Speaker 5: you know, you and I went back and forth and
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Speaker 5: everybody eats his garbage and we were.
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Speaker 4: Talking about that type of stuff.
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Speaker 5: But as they started to prove that they were something
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Speaker 5: different and that the concept might be working. I adjusted
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Speaker 5: and I recalibrated my expectations, and by the time the
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Speaker 5: AFC Championship game last Sunday, I was supremely confident. I
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Speaker 5: thought that we were the better team. I had watched
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Speaker 5: Kansas City throughout the year struggle. They only scored thirty
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Speaker 5: points twice, never over thirty points, and all of their
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Speaker 5: games pretty much were one score games. I was confident
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Speaker 5: last week Justice, and maybe that's you know, maybe that's
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Speaker 5: egg on my face, but I don't regret it. I
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Speaker 5: just feel like I just feel bamboosed. I feel like
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Speaker 5: I feel like I feel like a sucker, to be honest,
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Speaker 5: man oohu, because I thought we were better than them, Justice,
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Speaker 5: I thought we were better than them, and BT's right,
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Speaker 5: you had to play per perfect, but that it just
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Speaker 5: wasn't close. I know the game score, so I feel
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Speaker 5: we were out class.
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Speaker 8: Let's let's let's let's let's put everything into perspective.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 8: We started off with you saying ten and seven just
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Speaker 8: get into the playoffs.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely, Then we.
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Speaker 1: Also talk about they won by three points.
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Speaker 8: Okay, I know that the refs is that uh something
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Speaker 8: you you know, want to acknowledge or whatever. There's a
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Speaker 8: five minute clip of their being subjective refereeing happening in
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Speaker 8: that game. Okay, So if I take a dynasty, a
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Speaker 8: dynasty maybe the greatest team that has ever been a
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Speaker 8: symbol mm hm, and you give you mentioned your big brother,
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Speaker 8: you could never beat your big brother.
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Speaker 1: You know what I bet? I bet your big brother
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Speaker 1: had his parents favor.
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Speaker 4: I ain't touching that one. With football.
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Speaker 8: I've been there, I've been there. Okay, I know what
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Speaker 8: it's like your big brother has. Yeah, they got their
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Speaker 8: favorite of the pairent NFL. Clearly there is an agenda.
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Speaker 8: Look hold on, but you have to you have to
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Speaker 8: let me. You have to let me put it all
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Speaker 8: into perspective.
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Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
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Speaker 1: Ten and seven get into the playoffs.
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Speaker 8: You know what I said, I said for it's even three,
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Speaker 8: we could have been with that.
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Speaker 4: That's basically our record if we played the last game.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely right.
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Speaker 8: Okay, So ten and seven just get into the playoffs.
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Speaker 8: You also said that they were out coached. Now, if
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Speaker 8: you have a roster that you thought best case scenario,
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Speaker 8: tennant seven get into the playoffs. In the AFC Championship game,
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Speaker 8: down three points to a dynasty that would suggest that
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Speaker 8: coaching is actually very good, not only Joe Brady. I
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Speaker 8: understand the criticisms of Joe Brady, I really do, but
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Speaker 8: there is extreme limitations to that offense. He did what
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Speaker 8: he thought was going to put us in the best
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Speaker 8: position with the talent working with it. Now, you know,
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Speaker 8: the last drive, not running James Cook, all that other stuff.
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Speaker 8: I'm not saying that there there are, you know, things
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Speaker 8: that go without fault. You know, don Kin kid to
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Speaker 8: drop like there were things that we did that we
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Speaker 8: could have won the game. I'm not saying that we're
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Speaker 8: completely absolved of this.
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Speaker 1: I'm simply saying.
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Speaker 8: You you said that you felt bemboozled, right, Yes, a
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Speaker 8: team that you didn't believe in, Let's be honest the beginning.
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Speaker 8: In the beginning, that's fair. I don't but and I'm
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Speaker 8: not just singing wing you. I don't mean to make
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Speaker 8: you feel like because this is like a macro perspective.
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Speaker 8: Nobody really believed in the Bills to start the season,
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Speaker 8: except for like a few of us here in Buffalo.
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Speaker 4: Right, So, a team.
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Speaker 8: That nobody really believed in the start the season, and
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Speaker 8: then they started winning games and you're like, oh, well,
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Speaker 8: the Bills are still the Bills. It's like, but that's
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Speaker 8: not really fair, you know what I mean? Like you
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Speaker 8: have to give them respect for what they did and
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Speaker 8: what they accomplished with what they had.
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 8: You you got Stefan Diggs contract that really bit you
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Speaker 8: in the butt, you got a Von Miller contract that
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Speaker 8: really bit you in the butt, and you're still paying
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Speaker 8: for both of those contracts to this to this day. Right,
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Speaker 8: So Brandon Meat had less than nothing. In fact, he
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Speaker 8: was in the red to start the offseason last year,
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Speaker 8: and he still put a team that could go to
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Speaker 8: the AFC Conference game on the field, and not only that,
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Speaker 8: but a team that went to the AFC Conference game
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Speaker 8: lost by three points and has a five.
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Speaker 1: Minute clip of the other team having favor. So it's
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Speaker 1: that's what you have to put it all into perspective.
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Speaker 8: It's always something though I'm not saying that it's not,
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Speaker 8: but this particular season you have to put it into perspective.
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Speaker 4: Listen, you're basically trying to say over achieve.
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Speaker 5: So are you trying to say that we overachieved and
19:10
Speaker 5: I should be happy with the performance.
19:12
Speaker 8: Not necessarily that you should be happy. I'm just not Bamboos.
19:16
Speaker 8: Just not Bamboozo, Notamozy.
19:18
Speaker 3: Can I can see that. I can see that. I mean,
19:20
Speaker 3: it was okay to have I expectations. It was okay
19:23
Speaker 3: to expect to win that game because I think we
19:25
Speaker 3: should have. We we were.
19:29
Speaker 1: I thought we were.
19:30
Speaker 6: You go back and it's but the point is, it's
19:32
Speaker 6: always something we weren't ready. In the first AFC title,
19:35
Speaker 6: thirteen seconds could have win either way, but it didn't
19:37
Speaker 6: go our way because like this is what I'm talking about, Like,
19:40
Speaker 6: it's always something like we weren't ready and thirteen seconds
19:44
Speaker 6: was there. Then we need them at home, we had injuries,
19:46
Speaker 6: we couldn't beat him at home.
19:48
Speaker 4: Now that he gets flushed away with demor Hamlin, that
19:51
Speaker 4: was a weird ass game.
19:52
Speaker 3: Now we're better, Now we're ready.
19:53
Speaker 6: Now this is the game where it's Josh's team and
19:56
Speaker 6: we're in a different flow and we're starting to have
19:58
Speaker 6: some of those characteristics mm hmm that Kansas City has,
20:02
Speaker 6: Like that was what was different this year. We had
20:05
Speaker 6: that underlying feel to us, that flow to us, that
20:08
Speaker 6: was like the Kansas City because it's always gonna be
20:10
Speaker 6: something you're never gonna have the perfect roster. You could
20:12
Speaker 6: have the best roster in the NFL and get bounced.
20:15
Speaker 6: Look at San Francisco, you know, you have to look
20:18
Speaker 6: like it's never gonna be perfect. You have to have
20:21
Speaker 6: the it. You have to have the flow. And that's
20:23
Speaker 6: what Kansas City has and nobody else has it. And
20:25
Speaker 6: we were close to having it this year. We really were,
20:29
Speaker 6: but we obviously weren't there. We're not old enough yet.
20:32
Speaker 6: Rob our big brother is still getting us, but we're
20:34
Speaker 6: getting stronger. We're getting in the weight room this year
20:36
Speaker 6: and we're gonna we're gonna get the game point again
20:38
Speaker 6: and eventually we're gonna cash it. And that's what I believe.
20:41
Speaker 6: But we have to have that it factor, and we
20:44
Speaker 6: doesn't have it. We were close this year, but it's
20:46
Speaker 6: always something. It's the refs, so it's we're not ready,
20:49
Speaker 6: or it's we have the injuries, or it's we're never
20:52
Speaker 6: it's never gonna be perfect.
20:54
Speaker 8: Gonna believe under when you're all pro quarterback goes down
20:59
Speaker 8: in the second quarter, what what can you do all
21:02
Speaker 8: that you have higher evam actively being barbecue.
21:07
Speaker 1: Grilled, pan fried of it baked on the field.
21:13
Speaker 4: Man, I understand.
21:17
Speaker 5: Sounds like this is also like they matter. Okay, let's
21:21
Speaker 5: get let's get into it, Mama Monday. Well, okay, let's
21:24
Speaker 5: move the show forward. Then what happened?
21:26
Speaker 4: You know?
21:26
Speaker 5: I mean, because first of all, I am not I'm
21:29
Speaker 5: not going to accept the reps and and here's why
21:31
Speaker 5: I will, Bill's Mafia nicol City crew. I don't want
21:35
Speaker 5: you to get sucked into this because I've seen it
21:37
Speaker 5: on Twitter all the ways long and Justice the game
21:42
Speaker 5: and justice and justice in I can't. I can't talk
21:46
Speaker 5: about the reps. And the reason why I can't talk
21:48
Speaker 5: about the reps is because of what we talked about
21:50
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago.
21:51
Speaker 4: DT.
21:52
Speaker 5: If I thought that it was rigged like w w F,
21:55
Speaker 5: then I would not watch I would not have this podcast.
21:58
Speaker 5: You guys would not be on movies with me right now.
22:00
Speaker 5: I do not believe that there is an agenda for
22:03
Speaker 5: some mid market team in the Midwest to have all
22:05
Speaker 5: of the glory because of a singer or or whatever.
22:09
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't even know what the thing
22:12
Speaker 4: you know, the city, I don't know.
22:14
Speaker 5: Listen Justice Respectfully, I can't go down that road with
22:17
Speaker 5: you because I feel like I feel like a maniac.
22:20
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm talking about UFO stuff like that. Listen, Listen.
22:23
Speaker 6: We just spent thousands of dollars and years of our
22:26
Speaker 6: lives on this team.
22:26
Speaker 3: If it was rigged, yeah, we would be idiots.
22:29
Speaker 4: We would be dummies.
22:30
Speaker 5: Listen, the fourth, the third, whatever down it was for
22:33
Speaker 5: that one yard game that on that drive. I understand
22:36
Speaker 5: that it seemed like Mama Monday when you look at
22:38
Speaker 5: it on TV, that yellow line, it seemed like he
22:40
Speaker 5: got it.
22:41
Speaker 4: They said that he didn't get it. I understand that.
22:42
Speaker 5: They said that it was two different refs and one
22:44
Speaker 5: ran on this line and the other one ran on
22:46
Speaker 5: the other line, and Josh happened to pass the ball
22:49
Speaker 5: to the other guy to the other ref and he
22:51
Speaker 5: marked a short. They reviewed it and then they said
22:54
Speaker 5: that we were short. If we got screwed on that, fine,
22:56
Speaker 5: they scored.
22:57
Speaker 4: We were up. We were up twenty two, twenty one.
23:00
Speaker 5: Then we had the ball down three with three minutes
23:04
Speaker 5: and thirty three seconds to go, with all three time outs.
23:08
Speaker 5: This is the second consecutive year that our quarterback has
23:11
Speaker 5: had an opportunity to lead us down the field to
23:14
Speaker 5: win the game or to tie the game, and they
23:15
Speaker 5: did it. I understand he doesn't kick field goals, so
23:18
Speaker 5: that's on Tyler bass.
23:19
Speaker 1: Last year passes.
23:21
Speaker 5: I understand he's not the receiver. I knew you were
23:23
Speaker 5: getting ready to say that, so he's not trust But
23:28
Speaker 5: I can't go down the road of refs. Mama Mondy,
23:31
Speaker 5: what happened when we talked about Joe Brady? You talked
23:33
Speaker 5: about that for a quick second, Mama Mondy. I heard
23:37
Speaker 5: that Joe Brady was locked up in the facility for
23:39
Speaker 5: five days away from his family. We got that word.
23:43
Speaker 5: That's the best that you can come up with is
23:45
Speaker 5: tush push and then getting stuffed and not making adjustments.
23:49
Speaker 4: That's the best that you can come up with.
23:50
Speaker 5: I just I just don't know what happened, and it
23:53
Speaker 5: seems like it just blame to go around.
23:56
Speaker 7: How about that being just distracted by being interviewed for
24:02
Speaker 7: a head coaching position doesn't cause distraction in your head.
24:08
Speaker 7: It does. Whether you say, oh no, I'm totally focused
24:12
Speaker 7: and blah, you simply do not physically have as much
24:16
Speaker 7: mental energy and time to devote to putting a game
24:20
Speaker 7: plan together. And so you wonder why you saw a
24:24
Speaker 7: lot of the same things that you saw during the
24:25
Speaker 7: regular season. That's not what happens with Andy Reid, is it.
24:30
Speaker 7: Andy Reid is a genius at play calling. He pulls
24:34
Speaker 7: stuff out of his hat like nobody else in the
24:37
Speaker 7: in the league, including Bill Belichick. Whatever you want to
24:41
Speaker 7: say about Belichick as a coach, but Andy Reid is
24:45
Speaker 7: the best play caller I have ever seen, and I've
24:49
Speaker 7: watched a lot of football. And so you have a
24:54
Speaker 7: junior in Joe Brady. Okay, he may turn out to
24:57
Speaker 7: be great at some point in time. He's still well
25:00
Speaker 7: young at the position. Okay, but when you are distracted
25:05
Speaker 7: because half of your mind is going do I want
25:07
Speaker 7: to interview with the say? Answer? Do I interview with
25:10
Speaker 7: the Jets? You know, all of that stuff is in there,
25:13
Speaker 7: and I don't care what anybody says. It's a distraction.
25:17
Speaker 7: And so that's number one. Number two, go into you
25:21
Speaker 7: want to know what happened? I disagree completely, with all
25:25
Speaker 7: due respect to Joe Marino, who said on his podcast
25:30
Speaker 7: the other day, well, I opened up and I started
25:33
Speaker 7: looking at the all twenty two, and at first I
25:36
Speaker 7: expected to see that Josh Allen was nervous. Well, he
25:40
Speaker 7: wasn't nervous because he had blah blah, blah pressuring him
25:43
Speaker 7: and blah blah blah. I respectfully disagree Josh Allen had
25:47
Speaker 7: the yips. Again, we have seen this with him before
25:53
Speaker 7: when he was younger in his career, but also we
25:58
Speaker 7: see it at time to time. It comes out he
26:01
Speaker 7: was nervous. That's why if we if he has somebody
26:06
Speaker 7: in his face, what do we know about Josh When
26:08
Speaker 7: he's focused and in his flow, he just moves around
26:12
Speaker 7: and he sees the open receivers. He wasn't seeing the field.
26:16
Speaker 3: He started the game off.
26:17
Speaker 4: He started the game off erratic. He was he looked
26:20
Speaker 4: like he looked like he was like he was nervous.
26:22
Speaker 1: Can I say one thing real quick?
26:24
Speaker 7: Yeah?
26:24
Speaker 8: And then and then Antika finished, I didn't see the
26:27
Speaker 8: first drive. I was trying to find parking downtown.
26:30
Speaker 4: Well, he said he looked crazy. He looked crazy.
26:32
Speaker 8: He respectfully, I've heard that, so like, I'm not disputing
26:36
Speaker 8: that at all.
26:36
Speaker 1: However, I did not see the first drive. So from
26:40
Speaker 1: my person.
26:42
Speaker 8: On the first drive, I'm just saying from my perspective
26:45
Speaker 8: of when I watched the game. When I started watching
26:48
Speaker 8: the game, so when I finished watching the game, Josh
26:50
Speaker 8: Alla had a really good game, like he crazy throat, right,
26:53
Speaker 8: So I'm not I'm not saying that the first drive
26:56
Speaker 8: doesn't matter, it doesn't count.
26:58
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
27:00
Speaker 8: If he was nervous or whatever. But if he was,
27:02
Speaker 8: then he got out of it real quick.
27:06
Speaker 7: Perhaps, And in fairness, some of his inaccuracy in the
27:11
Speaker 7: second half may be attributed to the fact that he
27:13
Speaker 7: had a broken hand and we did not know that,
27:16
Speaker 7: And so I will grant you that, And it's entirely
27:20
Speaker 7: possible to write justice that he resolved those yips rather quickly.
27:27
Speaker 7: But let me add that that first drive that you
27:29
Speaker 7: missed was an opportunity that he missed because he was
27:35
Speaker 7: so whipped up. And if they score on that first
27:39
Speaker 7: drive instead of going one, two, three and out, then
27:43
Speaker 7: the whole mindset of the game changes. So you don't
27:48
Speaker 7: know what's going to happen. You know, in advance, you
27:51
Speaker 7: can't say what was going to happen. But he did
27:54
Speaker 7: pull his stuff together. I do think that that was
27:58
Speaker 7: the case. But I also think that at the very
28:00
Speaker 7: beginning of the game he was out of sorts, and
28:03
Speaker 7: that can't happen at this point in his career. He
28:06
Speaker 7: has got to get better control of his emotions. Before
28:10
Speaker 7: the game starts, and I don't know what he needs
28:13
Speaker 7: to do. I think maybe doctor Dez, the sports psychologist
28:17
Speaker 7: that works with the Bills, might be able to help him,
28:19
Speaker 7: maybe with his breathing. There's a lot of techniques that
28:22
Speaker 7: you can use to kind of get yourself out of
28:25
Speaker 7: that state of mind. But it's very real.
28:29
Speaker 4: It's very real, DT. It's I don't know.
28:34
Speaker 5: I mean, that first drive was interesting and stuff like that,
28:37
Speaker 5: but like one of the things is that, I mean,
28:39
Speaker 5: it seems like it's always oh, DT's gone. Well, it's
28:42
Speaker 5: just always seems like there's an excuse and there's a
28:45
Speaker 5: reason or different things like that. Listen, I understand that
28:49
Speaker 5: that last blitz was an amazing call by Spagnolo, and
28:53
Speaker 5: I understand that josh you know, had an amazing throw
28:56
Speaker 5: to Kincaid. You know, Kincaid drops it. I'm not blaming
29:00
Speaker 5: Kate or anything like that. That would have been a
29:01
Speaker 5: tough catch. But I still need my players to help out.
29:04
Speaker 5: Joshua can't all be on seventeen. I need I need
29:08
Speaker 5: him to have support. Where is the defense? Where is
29:13
Speaker 5: the defense?
29:14
Speaker 4: Now?
29:14
Speaker 5: You want to speak to that justice and defend McDermott.
29:18
Speaker 5: You can where because you already know that. That's my
29:21
Speaker 5: number one problem with him is that he's a defensive
29:23
Speaker 5: minded coach and he and in the playoffs, he does
29:26
Speaker 5: not have answers for the great quarterbacks. He does not
29:29
Speaker 5: have answers for Burrow of one time we face him,
29:31
Speaker 5: and he's never had answers for fifteen He's never had
29:36
Speaker 5: answers for him.
29:37
Speaker 4: And that's my that's my main, my number one problem DT.
29:42
Speaker 5: Before you dropped out, I was saying that my number
29:43
Speaker 5: one problem is is McDermott.
29:45
Speaker 4: We are now.
29:46
Speaker 5: Josh Allen is an all world, a future Hall of
29:49
Speaker 5: Fame quarterback. He's zero and four against Mahomes and I
29:52
Speaker 5: lay much of it at the feet of the head coach.
29:55
Speaker 5: You are a defensive minded head coach. They were talking
29:57
Speaker 5: about stats this week on WGR that we're making my
30:00
Speaker 5: mind melt melt. Literally, he's he has they averaged like
30:05
Speaker 5: four points per drive against us, which is historically horrible.
30:09
Speaker 4: I don't get it.
30:11
Speaker 5: He never has answers for him, and I just I
30:13
Speaker 5: can't make excuses for him anymore. If he's a defensive
30:16
Speaker 5: minded coach and and Babbage is running his defense, I don't.
30:20
Speaker 4: I just I don't know. Man, I can't. I can't
30:21
Speaker 4: let him slide on this. Man, I'm sorry, I can't.
30:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, who else. I mean, there's no other coach that's
30:28
Speaker 3: stopped in the Chiefs either, you know, I.
30:31
Speaker 4: Hear them all the time. But they do better than us.
30:34
Speaker 4: They do better. Houston did better than us.
30:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bengals.
30:38
Speaker 5: The Bengals held them to whatever, no points or three
30:41
Speaker 5: points in the second half that one year when they
30:43
Speaker 5: went to the Super Bowl.
30:44
Speaker 4: What's call it. They've had other teams that has success.
30:46
Speaker 5: Baltimore held them the seventeen points and still lost because
30:50
Speaker 5: they couldn't get their shit together last year.
30:51
Speaker 4: They should have been in the Super Bowl. I don't.
30:53
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't buy that. I don't.
30:56
Speaker 6: Well, let's let's break down the game quick, like I
30:59
Speaker 6: just want to like a top to bottom because that's
31:02
Speaker 6: like the sequence of this game.
31:04
Speaker 3: Was really kind of that was what was bothersome to me.
31:07
Speaker 6: Like, so we come out, Josh is a little flaky, right,
31:11
Speaker 6: we start a little erratic, go, we punt, they go down,
31:14
Speaker 6: score touchdown, seven to nothing, get the ball back, regroup,
31:18
Speaker 6: nice drive to go down and get six, seven to seven.
31:23
Speaker 3: Now the middle of the game.
31:24
Speaker 6: Obviously it gets to that halfway point, they're getting the
31:28
Speaker 6: ball at half. It could have got away from us
31:31
Speaker 6: right there when it's twenty one to ten, right before
31:34
Speaker 6: halftime and they come down, Josh, one of the better,
31:39
Speaker 6: throws a highlight throw to mac collins.
31:41
Speaker 3: Great, we make it respectable. What do we need after halftime? Stop?
31:44
Speaker 6: Score stop? Stop score stop? What exactly happens? Stop score stop?
31:49
Speaker 6: So like McDermott, there you go, like you're there, you're
31:52
Speaker 6: following the you're following the script we needed now, But
31:55
Speaker 6: it obviously all comes down to the end. Get the lead,
31:58
Speaker 6: trade the scores, don't get the don't get the first down.
32:03
Speaker 6: They forced them to the field goal, which was big.
32:06
Speaker 6: Josh Allen gets the ball three minutes left. We know
32:08
Speaker 6: how it ends. So that's McDermott. Did get to stop
32:13
Speaker 6: at the end too.
32:15
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, but you're.
32:17
Speaker 6: Right, like it felt overall the edge the age. We
32:22
Speaker 6: needed the aedge, we needed the spark. We needed Spagnola
32:26
Speaker 6: with one of the best defensive calls on fourth down. Ever,
32:29
Speaker 6: the them getting a first down with Samaji p Ryan.
32:32
Speaker 6: I don't know if we weren't just trying at that
32:33
Speaker 6: point or at the very very end the ball back.
32:38
Speaker 6: But it just seemed like exactly the composure at the
32:41
Speaker 6: end on the offensive side of the ball was they're composed,
32:45
Speaker 6: the Bills come out.
32:46
Speaker 3: Just just sneak it.
32:47
Speaker 6: Uh, just just sneak it. That's what it felt like like,
32:51
Speaker 6: and that is unacceptable. So I agree with you, Rob
32:54
Speaker 6: and the fact the sequence to the game, he made
32:57
Speaker 6: the stops he needed, but the gut of the game
33:00
Speaker 6: was frantic, and the gut of the game costs.
33:02
Speaker 4: Us the game justice.
33:05
Speaker 5: I mean, what do you what do you? What do
33:08
Speaker 5: you say about McDermott then, so, what do you say?
33:10
Speaker 5: I have a defensive minded head coach. I've always wanted
33:12
Speaker 5: an offensive coach for Josh to lead him. I wanted
33:14
Speaker 5: Dable Obviously, the Pagoulas were never firing McDermott to keep
33:17
Speaker 5: Dable when it was time for him to leave. I
33:19
Speaker 5: get that. I'm not I'm not an idiot. We've got them.
33:24
Speaker 5: What do you what do you bring to the table
33:26
Speaker 5: if other if your contemporaries have found a ways to
33:29
Speaker 5: stop Mahomes at least a little bit, or at least
33:31
Speaker 5: slow him down, and you can't what what do you?
33:33
Speaker 4: What do I say? To what do I what do
33:34
Speaker 4: I do with that? As I walk into the offseason?
33:36
Speaker 5: Tell me, and I'm being sincere Sean McDermott was ahead
33:40
Speaker 5: of head coach.
33:41
Speaker 7: Of the year.
33:42
Speaker 4: Okay, listen, no problem.
33:45
Speaker 1: You could, we could.
33:47
Speaker 8: Last year I wanted him fired. So this is coming
33:49
Speaker 8: from me. Sean McDermott coached his ass off this season. Okay,
33:54
Speaker 8: playoffs and all, okay, you you get into a game Broncos,
33:59
Speaker 8: give up Evan, don't score another point.
34:01
Speaker 4: You're supposed to do that Lamar, and he did it, hold.
34:06
Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson at twenty five points and basically make it
34:08
Speaker 8: so that Josh Allen really doesn't even really need to
34:11
Speaker 8: do much in order to win a football game in
34:13
Speaker 8: the playoffs versus essentially the best team in the league,
34:16
Speaker 8: most talented team in the league for sure, outside of
34:18
Speaker 8: the Eagles.
34:19
Speaker 1: Right then you get to the Chiefs. I mean, Andy
34:23
Speaker 1: Reed is not chop livery.
34:25
Speaker 8: Not only that, but last year you had Baalen Specter
34:29
Speaker 8: on the field with.
34:31
Speaker 4: What was he mentioned he was about Sunday.
34:34
Speaker 8: Okay, So now this year higher Elam again was getting
34:39
Speaker 8: panned from they were up. They were literally going to
34:41
Speaker 8: him every play at a certain point during the game.
34:44
Speaker 8: It was not a play where they weren't going to college.
34:46
Speaker 8: He was out there point shaving. At a certain point
34:50
Speaker 8: he got us route, no rock, listen to me, listen
34:54
Speaker 8: to me, listen route and kyer Elam ended up forty
35:00
Speaker 8: five yards downfield.
35:02
Speaker 1: How is Sean McDermott supposed to coast that?
35:04
Speaker 3: Well?
35:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, but why is Sean McDermott putting him out there?
35:07
Speaker 6: Why is Sean McDermot how what he has?
35:14
Speaker 3: He's a We knew, we.
35:19
Speaker 6: Knew he was can cuss the week before this week,
35:22
Speaker 6: we expect him to play four quarters?
35:23
Speaker 3: No, we have a backup plan. What's the backup plan? Five?
35:26
Speaker 3: That's not a good enough.
35:28
Speaker 1: At all in the game, Then what happens? What what?
35:30
Speaker 1: What difference is.
35:35
Speaker 3: The backup plan wasn't good enough? And that's on McDermott.
35:38
Speaker 4: Mama Monday, Mama Monday.
35:40
Speaker 5: I I I okay.
35:43
Speaker 4: So I understand what just justice is. What justice is
35:46
Speaker 4: essentially saying.
35:47
Speaker 5: Is that what is he supposed to do he has
35:49
Speaker 5: He's trying to make chicken salad out of chicken ship.
35:52
Speaker 4: I understand that premise.
35:54
Speaker 1: You said ten and seven hopefully make the playoffs. I'm
35:59
Speaker 1: talking about that game.
36:00
Speaker 4: We had to I had to adjust my expectation.
36:02
Speaker 1: The roster is not good, Rob, it's not good.
36:06
Speaker 8: It's not talented enough to win a super Bowl. So
36:10
Speaker 8: for them to even be three points down to a
36:13
Speaker 8: dynasty is insane.
36:16
Speaker 4: That's good coaching, Mama Mondy.
36:19
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, wow, I'm sorry.
36:26
Speaker 1: I don't mean noologizing.
36:30
Speaker 5: I don't want us all to agree. Please apologizing. I'm
36:32
Speaker 5: not looking for us to agree. I'm looking I'm looking
36:35
Speaker 5: to go into the off season and feel better.
36:37
Speaker 7: This is very healthy, This is very very healthy to
36:41
Speaker 7: have this kind of a discussion because all of us
36:45
Speaker 7: need to be open minded about what happened. All of
36:51
Speaker 7: that we're processing in our head. I'm hearing what Justice
36:54
Speaker 7: is saying, I'm hearing what you're saying. Rob, I'm hearing
36:58
Speaker 7: all of it, and all of it, to some extent
37:02
Speaker 7: makes sense. Right. It does everything that I've heard so far. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
37:08
Speaker 7: yes yes, But it doesn't answer the original question which
37:13
Speaker 7: you asked, is what happened? Right? What happened? And I
37:19
Speaker 7: guess maybe what we can say is if we can't
37:24
Speaker 7: have some kind of consensus about what happened, then maybe
37:29
Speaker 7: our assumptions aren't correct, and we all need to just
37:34
Speaker 7: listen more to each other because you're all making very
37:39
Speaker 7: good points here. And the one thing that I would
37:43
Speaker 7: only add to that what you're saying is that and
37:48
Speaker 7: just as you said it, how do you beat Andy
37:52
Speaker 7: Reid in his play calling? Because he is not chopped liver,
37:58
Speaker 7: He's not a hamburger or he's a state. He's he's
38:05
Speaker 7: the best. And so that in itself is hard enough
38:11
Speaker 7: to deal with. But I also hear what Justice is
38:15
Speaker 7: saying in terms of when there's repeated calls that are
38:21
Speaker 7: made are dicey. That makes the whole thing more complicated.
38:29
Speaker 7: But listen to what Sean McDermott said in his press
38:33
Speaker 7: conference because this actually kind of surprised me, and I
38:38
Speaker 7: wanted to know what you guys thought about this, because
38:40
Speaker 7: when he was asked about the refs, he basically commented
38:45
Speaker 7: by saying he didn't deny it. He did not deny
38:50
Speaker 7: that the refs were an issue in the game. What
38:52
Speaker 7: he said was you have to play better. You have
38:56
Speaker 7: to play better to overcome them. He didn't say I'm paraphrasing,
38:59
Speaker 7: but that's what he inferred. Did you have to you
39:02
Speaker 7: have to play good enough to beat the champions and
39:05
Speaker 7: the bad calls that you're going to get from the refs,
39:08
Speaker 7: did I him correctly?
39:10
Speaker 4: Yes, James cooks the same thing. It means that the
39:13
Speaker 4: same thing James thing too. I don't care about.
39:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, you knew what you had, You knew you had
39:19
Speaker 3: to be perfect.
39:20
Speaker 8: So so now real quick, and then I'll shut up.
39:23
Speaker 8: You take that, right. You take a team that nobody
39:26
Speaker 8: thought was good enough to actually win, right, and then
39:29
Speaker 8: you put them up against the dynasty that went undefeated
39:33
Speaker 8: for all instances of purposes if it wasn't for you specifically,
39:37
Speaker 8: and then you you're you get to a game where
39:41
Speaker 8: you're you're tied in or whatever. I think it was
39:45
Speaker 8: tied in the fourth quarter or something, and then you
39:47
Speaker 8: lose a possession light and then there's a five minute
39:50
Speaker 8: video about them coding favors. So now you have to
39:54
Speaker 8: play better with a lesser roster, with lesser coaches, with
39:58
Speaker 8: lesser dogs, with lesser blotches players.
40:01
Speaker 1: And against them and the referees.
40:05
Speaker 8: And somehow you only lost that game by three to me,
40:07
Speaker 8: that would suggest, Wow, you did almost everything you could, Like,
40:12
Speaker 8: it's all about the cards you are dealt.
40:15
Speaker 1: What you do with them, right.
40:16
Speaker 8: I felt like every single wrench that was thrown at them,
40:20
Speaker 8: they found a way to be like.
40:22
Speaker 1: All right and dodge it.
40:23
Speaker 8: Maybe they got nicked in the cheekbone a little bit
40:25
Speaker 8: or whatever, but they dodged it.
40:26
Speaker 4: Right.
40:27
Speaker 8: Josh Allen gets a corner, the most brilliant play call
40:31
Speaker 8: maybe in playoff, his three a corner blitz on fourth down,
40:34
Speaker 8: and he somehow puts it in a position where don
40:37
Speaker 8: kin k can catch the ball. I hear tough catch
40:40
Speaker 8: if you watch that from the end zone of you,
40:43
Speaker 8: I expect any wide receiver in the National Football League
40:46
Speaker 8: to catch that ball. Okay, So if Josh is able
40:50
Speaker 8: to put that ball in that position, you are making
40:53
Speaker 8: lemonade with women's at that point.
41:01
Speaker 7: The defense, because that's what I really also want to
41:04
Speaker 7: talk to you guys about, Like I appreciate what just
41:08
Speaker 7: Justice is saying, because this defense has not been all
41:12
Speaker 7: that good.
41:16
Speaker 4: Turnovers they've been masked.
41:18
Speaker 5: It was deodorant with the turnovers were deodorant, period, and
41:21
Speaker 5: you couldnot predict turnovers.
41:23
Speaker 4: I've said that all year.
41:26
Speaker 7: Okay, And one other question I have when it comes
41:28
Speaker 7: to defense, I want to know what you guys think
41:30
Speaker 7: about this. Please tell me your thoughts about Tarren Johnson
41:35
Speaker 7: in the last few games.
41:38
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, you know, it was very similar to
41:41
Speaker 6: what we saw in Poyer and Hide in their last
41:45
Speaker 6: couple of years. You know, we making playmakers, gets turnovers,
41:49
Speaker 6: makes plays, but lost a little step. And I noticed that,
41:53
Speaker 6: you know, I noticed that I did to the perception
41:56
Speaker 6: in reality. The perception is reality of if we win
42:00
Speaker 6: this game and win the Super Bowl, which we were
42:02
Speaker 6: very close to doing and very close to this team doing,
42:05
Speaker 6: but this is a great team.
42:06
Speaker 3: We want to resign everybody.
42:07
Speaker 6: DeMar Hamlin's sick, hy your Elamo, remember when he sucked,
42:10
Speaker 6: but now he's good like we.
42:12
Speaker 3: The perceptual would be this team's the best.
42:14
Speaker 6: Now we're a couple seconds away, a couple inches away
42:17
Speaker 6: from that same team, and we're overhauling everybody. And I
42:20
Speaker 6: get that's that's the business. But we do have to
42:24
Speaker 6: get better. We do because everything needs to happen our way.
42:27
Speaker 6: It talks about the bounces and the luck and making
42:30
Speaker 6: your own luck, and the Chiefs get the bounces.
42:33
Speaker 7: What if you run a four to five defense as
42:36
Speaker 7: your base and your and your guy, your your nickel
42:40
Speaker 7: corner has lost a step.
42:42
Speaker 3: You're in trouble.
42:43
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, So do we have Is it time for
42:47
Speaker 7: Sean McDermott to maybe rethink his base defense?
42:51
Speaker 3: Well, I think we weren't good enough, right.
42:55
Speaker 8: I was just gonna stay to be fair at this point.
42:56
Speaker 8: To Ron Johnson is the leader of your defense. You
42:58
Speaker 8: have to have field they do in a cover situation,
43:03
Speaker 8: that stuff. But the bounces got to go your way.
43:05
Speaker 6: And everyone said, oh, that Kinkaid catch would have been
43:08
Speaker 6: like our David Tyree, you know, our Julian Edelman before
43:12
Speaker 6: the overtime of the Patriots come back like that crazy
43:15
Speaker 6: playoff catch to like seal it and get and score
43:18
Speaker 6: after that.
43:19
Speaker 3: But I disagree. Our breaks came when seventeen put the
43:23
Speaker 3: ball in the ground three times.
43:25
Speaker 6: Thank you, every single time you already had the ground.
43:29
Speaker 3: And got it back.
43:33
Speaker 6: It would have been storybook for Dalton Kincaid. But we
43:36
Speaker 6: had our breaks, folks, We had our breaks.
43:39
Speaker 5: Thank you.
43:42
Speaker 4: You can, but you can spark at that justice. But
43:44
Speaker 4: that that's the.
43:45
Speaker 1: That's the real thing. One has anything to do with
43:47
Speaker 1: the other. I respect the.
43:51
Speaker 5: Macro is that you're looking to say, well, Dalton Kincaid,
43:54
Speaker 5: any receiver makes that catch.
43:55
Speaker 4: The NFL. My thing is that you already used up
43:57
Speaker 4: your luck.
43:58
Speaker 1: You already so gets them off.
44:03
Speaker 8: So for me, I believe in a big bang, right,
44:06
Speaker 8: not that I don't believe in God. I absolutely believe
44:09
Speaker 8: in a higher power. I'm not saying that I believe
44:10
Speaker 8: in causality.
44:12
Speaker 4: Right.
44:12
Speaker 8: Everything happened because something happened. So I'm not saying that
44:16
Speaker 8: you don't have a valid point with the fumbles being
44:19
Speaker 8: recovered by the offense every time. But that has nothing
44:21
Speaker 8: to do with dunton Kin Kate needs to catch that football.
44:24
Speaker 5: No, I understand that that that literally it doesn't have
44:27
Speaker 5: anything to do with it. But I'm talking about the
44:29
Speaker 5: fact that that I just I just feel like there's
44:32
Speaker 5: no excuses, like you already used up you're luck, You
44:34
Speaker 5: already got lucky. You shouln't even have been in that position,
44:36
Speaker 5: is what I'm saying. This game totally different. Had the ball, which.
44:40
Speaker 1: Is about the five minutes of luck the Chiefs got
44:45
Speaker 1: No because you, if you're better say that, you have
44:47
Speaker 1: to also acknowledge the young girl.
44:49
Speaker 5: I'm not going there with you. They only be But
44:52
Speaker 5: you can't only be detrimental to the like. You have
44:56
Speaker 5: to see both sides. No, I'm not I'm not arguing
45:00
Speaker 5: with anything you guys are said. We didn't play good enough,
45:03
Speaker 5: like they they made mistakes.
45:04
Speaker 1: They put the ball.
45:05
Speaker 8: I'm not disagreeing with you guys at all. I'm just
45:08
Speaker 8: simply saying, you guys are making it seem like Yo,
45:11
Speaker 8: the Bills, they really blew their opportunity.
45:13
Speaker 1: They did, you know what I mean?
45:14
Speaker 8: And like, I'm not saying that they didn't blow their opportunity.
45:17
Speaker 8: I don't think I'm I don't think it was like
45:24
Speaker 8: there were circumstances that that were one hundred percent against
45:27
Speaker 8: them that they couldn't control.
45:31
Speaker 6: The only positive I took from Sunday, like I hear
45:34
Speaker 6: you justice, but like it, the only positive I took
45:37
Speaker 6: from Sunday is I could have somewhat closure knowing it was.
45:40
Speaker 3: A team loss, top to bottom team loss.
45:43
Speaker 6: Yeah, we didn't get the calls ever, we got out coached,
45:46
Speaker 6: we didn't execute on offense, we didn't make the stops
45:48
Speaker 6: on defense, we let up a bad special teams play. Yes,
45:51
Speaker 6: it was a team loss, and so yes we did
45:55
Speaker 6: maybe get screwed on of two calls, but we also
45:58
Speaker 6: ship the bet on the other three that we needed,
46:00
Speaker 6: you know, So it's it was a team loss, and
46:03
Speaker 6: I can accept that it was a team loss. Good
46:06
Speaker 6: wasn't good enough and we were good. We had to
46:08
Speaker 6: be great because things would be against us, the ref
46:11
Speaker 6: were against whatever, but we had to be great to
46:14
Speaker 6: overcome that, and we weren't.
46:15
Speaker 3: And that's the point.
46:16
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Speaker 5: As we try to transition, I feel like I'm trying
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Speaker 5: to turn in the car.
47:00
Speaker 1: I just want to ask one question and again I'll
47:02
Speaker 1: shut up.
47:04
Speaker 4: Go ahead, I'm trying to turn the car.
47:05
Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right, Robin DC and answer.
47:10
Speaker 8: If Josh Allen had an All Pro defensive tackle and
47:13
Speaker 8: All Pro cornerback.
47:15
Speaker 4: No, that's what I wanted to turn the car to.
47:16
Speaker 8: The Hall of Fame defensive coordinator. What you guys expect
47:20
Speaker 8: him to win this football game? Yes, that's that's a
47:22
Speaker 8: lot actually kind of be a blowout, Right.
47:25
Speaker 4: That's what I wanted to turn the car to. I
47:28
Speaker 4: know where you're going. I know where you're going, Mama Monday.
47:34
Speaker 5: I think that one of the consensuses that I've heard
47:36
Speaker 5: throughout this week and I agree with, and Justice is
47:41
Speaker 5: just alluding to it. We do not have Blue Chippers
47:44
Speaker 5: on defense now, Sean McDermott says at the end of
47:48
Speaker 5: the press conference, he says, you know, I ideally think
47:53
Speaker 5: that you need at least two to three studs the
47:57
Speaker 5: best at their position. Of the top three or five
48:00
Speaker 5: said that their position on both offense and defense. So
48:02
Speaker 5: that's six players between offense and defense that can change
48:06
Speaker 5: that are game changers.
48:08
Speaker 4: I will concede.
48:10
Speaker 5: Huh, I will concede that on the defensive side of
48:15
Speaker 5: the ball, I can't name maybe Arren Johnson at elite
48:21
Speaker 5: for nickel corners, for nickel corners top, He's top three
48:24
Speaker 5: nickel corner in the league outside of Taron Johnson.
48:27
Speaker 4: We do not have one, so I can give them that.
48:31
Speaker 5: Offensively, Josh, maybe James Cook is coming into his own.
48:35
Speaker 5: So at minimum you've got three out of six. You
48:39
Speaker 5: need a cup. You need another one on offense, and
48:41
Speaker 5: you need two more on defense. If not a third
48:44
Speaker 5: one on defense, I will give you that. I'll give
48:46
Speaker 5: you that.
48:47
Speaker 4: Mama money. Do you agree? Do you agree with Sean
48:50
Speaker 4: Dermot's assessment?
48:52
Speaker 3: I do.
48:52
Speaker 7: But I'll say this again. I've said it before on
48:58
Speaker 7: another podcast. I'm gonna say it again, and I'm gonna
49:02
Speaker 7: say it again, and I'm gonna say it again for
49:05
Speaker 7: five years, five years, and y'all know what's coming. For
49:11
Speaker 7: five years, I have begged, pleaded, I don't know, put
49:16
Speaker 7: it out to the gods. Please can we have a
49:19
Speaker 7: one technique defensive tackle in the draft. Please? I need
49:25
Speaker 7: a nose tackle. I need a big guy. Please. For
49:29
Speaker 7: five years, I beg for it. I'm done.
49:33
Speaker 5: Ed Oliver is pretty undersized DT. He is not what
49:36
Speaker 5: Mama Monday is talking about. He is not Chris Jones.
49:40
Speaker 6: Or Jalen Carter and who's in the super Bowl. Chris
49:44
Speaker 6: Jones and Jalen Carter show you.
49:48
Speaker 5: They say the game is won on the line of
49:49
Speaker 5: scrimmage justice. Now, do you agree with Sean mcdermam's assessment,
49:53
Speaker 5: because I clearly feel that you do, because that's what
49:55
Speaker 5: you've kind of been alluding to this entire episode. Absolutely,
49:59
Speaker 5: we lack blue chippers on that side of the ball.
50:01
Speaker 8: Agree, Like I know, giving Sean McDermott crap and given
50:05
Speaker 8: Leslie Fraser crap all those years, Like I get it,
50:07
Speaker 8: and I understand like where it comes from, because you
50:12
Speaker 8: like whatever, get it done. Like who cares about the
50:15
Speaker 8: excuses get it done. You either get it done or
50:18
Speaker 8: you don't. So I understand where you guys are coming from.
50:20
Speaker 8: Like I get the perspective. However, if I'm looking at
50:24
Speaker 8: like I pretend I'm Brandon Bean a lot, okay, So
50:27
Speaker 8: if I'm looking at it as if I'm the general
50:30
Speaker 8: manager of the Bills and I look at this season,
50:32
Speaker 8: and I'm like, okay, we have a blue chip player
50:36
Speaker 8: in terms of offensive line. That's a player right there, right,
50:39
Speaker 8: we have a blue chip player and Josh Allen James Cook. Also,
50:44
Speaker 8: I would say he is becoming a blue chip player.
50:48
Speaker 8: Outside of that, Khalisha kir is surprisingly good, but he's
50:54
Speaker 8: not like a great receiver, you know what I mean.
50:57
Speaker 8: Like he's really good for what we need him for
50:59
Speaker 8: and he through for us a lot, extremely reliable, but
51:02
Speaker 8: he's not like Antonio Brown, or I mean not Antonio Brown,
51:06
Speaker 8: A J.
51:06
Speaker 1: Brown, you know what I mean, Like Dalton kin Kid
51:09
Speaker 1: is not Mark.
51:10
Speaker 8: Alll They acted like Mark Andrews, but like you know,
51:15
Speaker 8: they're they're not blue chip players. So that that is
51:19
Speaker 8: why I say Joe Brady did good to this season
51:24
Speaker 8: because you get thirty touchdowns, thirty rushing touchdowns, three passing
51:27
Speaker 8: touchdowns with this offense.
51:30
Speaker 1: You use your strengths to your advantage.
51:32
Speaker 7: Defense because the offensive line has been very good all
51:36
Speaker 7: year round exactly.
51:38
Speaker 1: And so on defense.
51:39
Speaker 8: Imagine if Sean mcdermot's defense, you need it, rob Imagine
51:43
Speaker 8: if Sean McDermott's defense had a Miles Garrett or MaTx Crosby,
51:48
Speaker 8: a Teacher Hockinson not Hockinson Hendrickson, Trey Hendrickson. If he
51:54
Speaker 8: had this defense had one of those the past four
51:56
Speaker 8: or five years, we're super Bowl.
51:57
Speaker 1: Champions at least two to three times.
52:00
Speaker 8: Now, imagine if we had a Trey Hendrickson and let's
52:03
Speaker 8: say a Minka Fitzpatrick or a Kyle Hamilton.
52:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we need.
52:07
Speaker 5: Somebody in the goddam Marlin Humphrey.
52:12
Speaker 8: Like the Ravens not having any Super Bowls is absolutely
52:15
Speaker 8: bonkers because they have a fantastic roster every.
52:18
Speaker 7: Year, which brings points to discuss during the off season
52:24
Speaker 7: because the jury is in now Brandon Dean needs to
52:30
Speaker 7: draft better.
52:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the first round. Absolutely, in the first couple
52:34
Speaker 1: of rounds, first couple of rounds. Yeah, late rounds.
52:38
Speaker 5: But in the rounds it's not because Dalton and to
52:41
Speaker 5: start to look like, like, I don't know, a bust.
52:44
Speaker 4: But it's not.
52:45
Speaker 5: It's not what they told us that he was going
52:47
Speaker 5: to be when they drafted him at Nightmare.
52:49
Speaker 4: I do not see.
52:50
Speaker 8: It was his prime opportunity. Bro, you don't have a
52:53
Speaker 8: number one receiver. This was your shot to go out
52:56
Speaker 8: and be an elite player in the league like a
52:59
Speaker 8: Rock Bowers and stuff like that. Didn't Yeah, yeah, it
53:04
Speaker 8: didn't happen.
53:05
Speaker 5: So it's interesting because I really do I agree that
53:08
Speaker 5: was one of the things from this week and hearing
53:10
Speaker 5: all the narratives on WGR and all the callers, that
53:13
Speaker 5: I have to agree with is that we do not
53:15
Speaker 5: We lack blue chip talent on that side of the ball,
53:18
Speaker 5: and maybe offensively as well, maybe we don't have the
53:21
Speaker 5: horses on offense either. In respects to the fact that
53:23
Speaker 5: I never respected everybody eats, Now that's me personally. I
53:27
Speaker 5: know Justice wanted to try to gloat before the ANC
53:29
Speaker 5: Championship game. I didn't respect anybody eats. I respected seventeen
53:33
Speaker 5: okay well, and I respect them to I want him
53:35
Speaker 5: to have help DT. I want him to have help.
53:38
Speaker 5: I don't want them to ever stop getting him help.
53:41
Speaker 5: So for me, everybody eats was almost a slap in
53:44
Speaker 5: the face to Josh Allen. And that's how I framed
53:47
Speaker 5: it throughout the season. And again, what did I say
53:49
Speaker 5: leading all the way up to the AFC Championship Game.
53:52
Speaker 5: I said, well, if they get to the super Bowl, eventually,
53:53
Speaker 5: I about to shut the fuck up because there is
53:55
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl. But before that, I was saying that listen,
53:58
Speaker 5: they they need something better. I was happy when being
54:01
Speaker 5: went out and got Cooper because I thought that it
54:04
Speaker 5: was going to help the offense.
54:05
Speaker 4: It did help the offense. They averaged seven more points
54:07
Speaker 4: a game.
54:08
Speaker 5: I know people want to rail on Coop and say
54:09
Speaker 5: he didn't make any catches. I still believe that he
54:12
Speaker 5: drew defenses away from the other guys and helped them.
54:16
Speaker 5: I think that it was. I think it's undeniable DT.
54:19
Speaker 5: I never want to stop helping Josh Allen. I understand
54:22
Speaker 5: that we're going to focus on defense in the offseason.
54:25
Speaker 5: I want him to be top priority, surround him with
54:28
Speaker 5: talent where we could outscore a team if we need
54:31
Speaker 5: to wear I'm not even thinking about the defense.
54:33
Speaker 3: I agree one hundred percent you.
54:35
Speaker 6: We were going through the blue chips there, and I'm
54:37
Speaker 6: sorry for my technical difficulties here. Literally it was literally
54:41
Speaker 6: smoking at one point. That's overheating emergency this episode, putting
54:49
Speaker 6: it out the window to cool it down because it's
54:50
Speaker 6: nice in about fifteen degrees here today. So anyway, the
54:55
Speaker 6: blue chips, we were struggling to find the third.
54:58
Speaker 3: I mean, we get away with Josh on him one
55:00
Speaker 3: and a half, you know, right, and.
55:03
Speaker 6: And then the offensive and the offensive you know line
55:06
Speaker 6: is is playing great this year and they're all back
55:08
Speaker 6: next year. So I agree, though bringing him, somebody that
55:12
Speaker 6: can be a game changer. Jimmy Butler is, you know,
55:15
Speaker 6: talking about getting traded in the NBA right now, and
55:17
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, you know, yeah, but he's a game
55:20
Speaker 6: he's a playmaker, he's a game changer, and he whatever
55:23
Speaker 6: team he goes to, they get better and that's gonna
55:26
Speaker 6: be and they win exactly.
55:28
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be like, it doesn't have to be
55:30
Speaker 3: T Higgins.
55:31
Speaker 6: I know, he's obviously the biggest name, you know, in
55:33
Speaker 6: the trade.
55:38
Speaker 3: It is what it is.
55:39
Speaker 6: But like, there's these dudes coming out the last four
55:42
Speaker 6: or five years coming out of drafts, the Justin Jefferson's,
55:45
Speaker 6: the Jamar Chase is.
55:46
Speaker 3: Granted they're all high picks, but you know there's this
55:49
Speaker 3: guys being impacted.
55:50
Speaker 5: How about just some speed, how about somebody that can
55:53
Speaker 5: stretch the field? Was supposed to be well he wasn't.
55:59
Speaker 5: Last year we Deonta Hardy and they didn't even use
56:02
Speaker 5: him so.
56:02
Speaker 6: Exact and before it was Zetoven. So it's just I yeah,
56:08
Speaker 6: they got it. I agree, speed is they're getting them.
56:11
Speaker 6: You know, I like the big boy aspect, but now
56:13
Speaker 6: we got Keyank Coleman, we got the athletic dude to
56:16
Speaker 6: get up there, and we got youakir, and so we
56:18
Speaker 6: need that middle that that it looked like we were
56:21
Speaker 6: going to start using eighteen in the beginning of this
56:23
Speaker 6: game to settle Josh. Now just start throwing eighteen. Get
56:26
Speaker 6: them loose and get it and okay, this is why
56:28
Speaker 6: we bring him. And then he kind of went away whatever,
56:30
Speaker 6: and depending on the market, and we're not gonna give
56:32
Speaker 6: him a ton of money. But somebody liking Amari Cooper
56:34
Speaker 6: last year, next year's this year is Amari Cooper is
56:37
Speaker 6: what we need.
56:38
Speaker 4: I think.
56:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting now as we begin to wrap up
56:42
Speaker 5: a little bit tonight, as we look ahead. You know,
56:46
Speaker 5: I think that people that are calling for McDermott's head
56:49
Speaker 5: are are are are wasting their breath.
56:51
Speaker 4: I'm so to speak.
56:52
Speaker 5: I think that once again, we had an episode I
56:55
Speaker 5: think it was last year in season three where I
56:58
Speaker 5: said that, you know, the kids are yelling at the
57:00
Speaker 5: back seat and we're we're yelling and we want dad
57:02
Speaker 5: to turn the pull over, and Dad's not even listened
57:05
Speaker 5: to us, He's not paying any attention. So because of that,
57:09
Speaker 5: how do you guys feel about McDermott and the direction
57:13
Speaker 5: of the team being as we head into the offseason,
57:15
Speaker 5: because he's not going anywhere, I start, I've actually become
57:19
Speaker 5: resigned to the fact that I need to just shut
57:21
Speaker 5: up about wanting an offensive coach for Josh Allen.
57:24
Speaker 4: I view him much like Tomlin Shanahan.
57:28
Speaker 5: They've had so much success that their owners would never
57:31
Speaker 5: consider it because who am I going to replace this
57:33
Speaker 5: guy with when I've had so much success? So I
57:36
Speaker 5: give him his flowers for those Asse East titles. I
57:40
Speaker 5: understand we've won five straight and we're in position to
57:42
Speaker 5: win another one next year. I understand that he's won
57:45
Speaker 5: twelve thirteen games every year and that's very hard to do.
57:48
Speaker 4: I get it.
57:49
Speaker 5: I do not want them to be satisfied. So as
57:52
Speaker 5: we move into the offseason, I want to know what
57:55
Speaker 5: is the plan. We are getting ready to take a break.
57:58
Speaker 5: This is the season finale season for Nichol City Crew,
58:01
Speaker 5: Bill's Mafia Mama Mondy. What is the plan? What can
58:05
Speaker 5: I cling to for hope for the future as we
58:08
Speaker 5: head into this.
58:09
Speaker 4: Long off season? What? What? What's the plan?
58:11
Speaker 5: Because he's not going anywhere, So I'm going to start
58:14
Speaker 5: to shut up about that he's not going anywhere, But
58:16
Speaker 5: Google would never fire him.
58:18
Speaker 4: What's the what's the plan?
58:21
Speaker 7: Probably for you specifically, or I could say to everyone
58:26
Speaker 7: in general, but for you specifically, My son want you
58:36
Speaker 7: to take a deep breath and lower your expectations, not
58:42
Speaker 7: in the sense of what you want to have happened,
58:48
Speaker 7: but just relax and let whatever happens happens because it's
58:53
Speaker 7: out of your control. You can only control certain things.
59:00
Speaker 4: You guys.
59:00
Speaker 7: I learned this in the nineties after the fourth Super
59:03
Speaker 7: Bowl loss I did. I had to have I had
59:06
Speaker 7: to have a come to Jesus meeting with myself. Okay.
59:10
Speaker 7: I had to realize, Okay, this is four times in
59:14
Speaker 7: a row they've lost every time. Do I give up
59:18
Speaker 7: my fan hood?
59:19
Speaker 2: No?
59:20
Speaker 7: I wasn't ready to do that, never, because it's born
59:23
Speaker 7: into us. But I had to find some way to
59:27
Speaker 7: be at peace. And that's my message to you is
59:31
Speaker 7: find a way to be at peace with whatever happens.
59:37
Speaker 5: Okay, detail excuse me, Justice General Radford. We appreciate your contributions. Tonight,
59:43
Speaker 5: as we ride off into the off season, sunset, what
59:47
Speaker 5: what do I what am I?
59:48
Speaker 4: What do I cling to? Because Mama Mondey stole my notes?
59:51
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the last thing that I said, I'm
59:52
Speaker 5: not getting hyped for next year. I put it on
59:55
Speaker 5: them and I'm not getting hyped. I'm just gonna watch
59:57
Speaker 5: every game. I'm gonna love my Bills because it's born
59:59
Speaker 5: into me. It's a part of me and I can't
1:00:01
Speaker 5: shake that. But I'm not getting hype. They can go,
1:00:04
Speaker 5: they can start the season eight. No, I'm not getting hype.
1:00:07
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna talk shit. I'm just gonna just sit
1:00:09
Speaker 5: back and watch and enjoy the season and be ready
1:00:11
Speaker 5: for the playoffs. And when the playoffs come, I won't
1:00:13
Speaker 5: get my expectations up. I was more nervous about the
1:00:16
Speaker 5: Baltimore game than I was the kid. I thought that
1:00:21
Speaker 5: Baltimore could trash us again. I didn't think it was
1:00:23
Speaker 5: gonna be a blowout thirty five to ten. But I
1:00:25
Speaker 5: was not confident that we were gonna win that game,
1:00:27
Speaker 5: even though it was at home. That had no bearing
1:00:29
Speaker 5: on my on my feelings. I was nervous as hell.
1:00:32
Speaker 5: And y'all can go back and listen to it, Nickel
1:00:34
Speaker 5: City Crew, because y'all know that I was in that spirit.
1:00:37
Speaker 4: I was. I was coming up with the menu, man.
1:00:40
Speaker 5: I was ready to grill and smoke meats and do
1:00:44
Speaker 5: everything next Sunday morning. I was gonna wake up at
1:00:46
Speaker 5: four in the morning. I knew we were going to
1:00:49
Speaker 5: beat them. I thought we were better. What do I
1:00:51
Speaker 5: cling on to, justice, Send me into the off season
1:00:53
Speaker 5: with something? Send me in the off season with something, man,
1:00:55
Speaker 5: other than the fucking reps, because me and you will.
1:00:57
Speaker 5: I'll fight you every damn day over the reps on Twitter.
1:01:00
Speaker 5: I can do that in my sleep. Send me in,
1:01:02
Speaker 5: Send me into the off season with some hope. Man,
1:01:04
Speaker 5: What what do I cling to?
1:01:05
Speaker 1: Okay, so Ai, Robin, my brother Rob. Those were wise
1:01:10
Speaker 1: words from some really great and brilliant people. Okay, be cautious,
1:01:15
Speaker 1: don't get your hopes up like I respect that message.
1:01:20
Speaker 1: That's not where I'm going. I'm going to that, all right.
1:01:25
Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, listen, Going into next season, there's not a
1:01:31
Speaker 8: team in the NFL other than if the Eagles win
1:01:34
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl that should feel better about.
1:01:36
Speaker 1: Next season than the Buffalo Bills. We just had Josh
1:01:41
Speaker 1: Allen go absolutely eight eight go crazy.
1:01:47
Speaker 5: Right.
1:01:48
Speaker 8: Sure, he was mc collins as his most reliable receiver
1:01:51
Speaker 8: or mc collins. That's the most right you get an
1:01:56
Speaker 8: off season pro. I do think we'll re sign Amari
1:01:58
Speaker 8: Cooper and because he didn't have really a great season
1:02:01
Speaker 8: with us, so probably get him at a discount. And
1:02:03
Speaker 8: he likes winning. He already said that. He already said
1:02:06
Speaker 8: that he don't care about production. He just wants to win.
1:02:08
Speaker 8: So you're gonna win here. You get an off season
1:02:10
Speaker 8: program with Josh Allen. He's already we've seen him make
1:02:13
Speaker 8: dynamic catches this season. You get an off season program
1:02:16
Speaker 8: with Josh Allen, and you know, into the thirty one
1:02:20
Speaker 8: that looks absolutely bad, he's gonna be that that looks
1:02:24
Speaker 8: absolutely different next season.
1:02:25
Speaker 1: Okay, thirty four, all right, thirty one he'll be.
1:02:29
Speaker 4: He'll be.
1:02:29
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm not saying he's at his peak, but he'll
1:02:32
Speaker 8: he'll be. He's wiser, he's a better route runner than
1:02:34
Speaker 8: he's ever been.
1:02:35
Speaker 4: He'll be good.
1:02:36
Speaker 8: Right, Okay, Brandon mean is gonna go get Josh another weapon,
1:02:39
Speaker 8: another wide.
1:02:40
Speaker 7: Receiver, Jack number one.
1:02:44
Speaker 8: So so that's that's what I was gonna say. You
1:02:47
Speaker 8: you have a little bit more money to work with,
1:02:49
Speaker 8: you can restructure Josh again. You can restructure you know,
1:02:54
Speaker 8: there's a lot of things that Brandon Bean can do
1:02:55
Speaker 8: to make you get some money.
1:02:57
Speaker 1: This offseason. He has more money than he's had to
1:02:59
Speaker 1: work within a little while.
1:03:00
Speaker 8: Right, Okay, So I have one of, if not the
1:03:04
Speaker 8: best offensive line in the league. James Cook is back,
1:03:07
Speaker 8: You're gonna get a Marii Cooper hopefully back again. You're
1:03:10
Speaker 8: gonna get another dynamic receiver to add to that along
1:03:14
Speaker 8: with Khalil Shakir and mc collins is coming back. I
1:03:17
Speaker 8: promise you, right, and then you gotta I genuinely do
1:03:21
Speaker 8: think he's gonna focus on the defense for the most part.
1:03:24
Speaker 8: If you get Josh Allen one more weapon to add
1:03:26
Speaker 8: to what he already has, I think would be good,
1:03:28
Speaker 8: and you keep a Mark Cooper. But then if you
1:03:30
Speaker 8: focus on the defense, Buffalo Bills could literally go.
1:03:34
Speaker 1: Undefeated next season.
1:03:35
Speaker 8: Oh god, they lost, they lost, Yo. They lost three
1:03:40
Speaker 8: games this season. One game Josh Allen dropped fifty on
1:03:44
Speaker 8: the Lirions with this offense, the drop Rams with the
1:03:49
Speaker 8: Rams who have a great defense, and Jared versus a
1:03:52
Speaker 8: dog forty with this offense and dom Josh Allen went
1:03:58
Speaker 8: absolutely crazy, which means without extra extern even factors and
1:04:03
Speaker 8: extra Josh is the best, Okay, and he plays the
1:04:06
Speaker 8: Orchard Park and nobody wanted a dome for whatever reason.
1:04:09
Speaker 4: Which was.
1:04:12
Speaker 3: I'll never understand d season.
1:04:15
Speaker 8: The Buffalo Bills will be Super Bowl contenders again, potentially undefeated,
1:04:20
Speaker 8: and they'll be so good that you won't have to
1:04:23
Speaker 8: worry about the refs because they'll be beating the Chiefs
1:04:25
Speaker 8: by twenty points going into the fourth DT.
1:04:29
Speaker 6: All right, all right, the off season right down the middle,
1:04:32
Speaker 6: between between the wisdom and between the pump up.
1:04:36
Speaker 3: I'm right down the middle.
1:04:37
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not gonna lose my passion for the
1:04:41
Speaker 6: season and just let it like I can, let it
1:04:44
Speaker 6: ride and enjoy every football Sunday, because football Sundays, Thursday's, Mondays,
1:04:48
Speaker 6: whatever they are, when the Bills play game day, it's.
1:04:50
Speaker 3: Amazing and it always will be and we love it.
1:04:53
Speaker 6: And next year's tailgate reports will be great and we're
1:04:56
Speaker 6: gonna enjoy our time. And it's just that's why we
1:04:58
Speaker 6: love the Bills so much, is because it is part
1:05:00
Speaker 6: of this whole fall.
1:05:01
Speaker 3: It's just something to be great. So I'm gonna enjoy it.
1:05:05
Speaker 6: But I also think, yes, we get back to the
1:05:08
Speaker 6: drawing board of getting that little you know that little
1:05:11
Speaker 6: rick Ross. Look that little lift lift you know that?
1:05:14
Speaker 6: Oh and we go out and we we we get
1:05:19
Speaker 6: after it. I mean, we we make splashes, we.
1:05:21
Speaker 3: Go all in.
1:05:22
Speaker 6: We do something I'm not saying as crazy as what
1:05:24
Speaker 6: the Rams did a couple of years ago with not
1:05:26
Speaker 6: having a first round pick ever again, but just just
1:05:31
Speaker 6: the fact that I'm getting some guys. We know seventeen
1:05:34
Speaker 6: is capable, so let's get some superstars in here and
1:05:37
Speaker 6: make make a push, make the run, because we gotta
1:05:39
Speaker 6: be perfect to beat this freaking Chiefs team. So we
1:05:41
Speaker 6: gotta keep we gotta keep adding weapons. So I'm I'm
1:05:44
Speaker 6: down for going all in. Obviously, we have to hit
1:05:46
Speaker 6: on our draft picks. I think any video game listeners
1:05:50
Speaker 6: out there will kind of relate to this like a
1:05:52
Speaker 6: hard game. You can kind of get through in that
1:05:54
Speaker 6: last level, the boss, the final boss. It's just hard, right,
1:05:58
Speaker 6: It's the hardest. Obviously it's a final one and how
1:06:02
Speaker 6: many times do you die? And you gotta keep going
1:06:04
Speaker 6: back and it becomes a point where the game up
1:06:07
Speaker 6: until the final boss just becomes second nature.
1:06:10
Speaker 3: You're just getting through it to get to the final boss, right,
1:06:12
Speaker 3: And we like.
1:06:18
Speaker 4: Out.
1:06:18
Speaker 6: We can't be unfocused in that. We can't be unfocused
1:06:23
Speaker 6: in that. But we have to make it second nature.
1:06:25
Speaker 6: So that's what McDermott and Josh and Brady and any
1:06:28
Speaker 6: other core member of this team needs to focus on.
1:06:31
Speaker 6: Let's get through the season is second nature? And what
1:06:35
Speaker 6: are we doing differently in the final boss level? What
1:06:37
Speaker 6: are we doing differently in the final boss level? It
1:06:40
Speaker 6: has to be second nature. We have to go through
1:06:42
Speaker 6: this somewhat coasting to get to the final Boss and
1:06:45
Speaker 6: then that's what we're working on. So that's why I
1:06:46
Speaker 6: think we are. I'm gonna enjoy the heck out of
1:06:48
Speaker 6: next season. I'm gonna get pumped up. I can't wait
1:06:50
Speaker 6: for you know that we can get into the spring
1:06:53
Speaker 6: and start talking about it rather than feeling this darkness
1:06:55
Speaker 6: over us that we got going right now.
1:06:57
Speaker 3: But we gotta be ready to go. I think we
1:07:00
Speaker 3: go all in.
1:07:01
Speaker 6: We make some wild plays, Screw caps, screw draft picks,
1:07:05
Speaker 6: just go.
1:07:05
Speaker 3: Try to get one. Just go try to get one.
1:07:08
Speaker 3: And we've done We've tried to do it in all
1:07:10
Speaker 3: the ways.
1:07:10
Speaker 6: I'm not saying we're giving up, but the cors there,
1:07:13
Speaker 6: go get some superstars and let's let's go.
1:07:18
Speaker 8: We'll get a Max Crosby, has a has a Tom
1:07:22
Speaker 8: Brady Randy my season next year.
1:07:23
Speaker 4: I promise you, Oh man, I love.
1:07:31
Speaker 8: Joe Brady had no receivers to work with, and he
1:07:34
Speaker 8: put up the numbers he did get him to get
1:07:37
Speaker 8: him a Mario Cooper in the offseason program.
1:07:39
Speaker 1: And the superstar receiver.
1:07:41
Speaker 4: I don't know where the superstar receivers coming from. That's
1:07:43
Speaker 4: all I mean by that. So that means we got
1:07:44
Speaker 4: to draft one. You have to draft one'ven better.
1:07:48
Speaker 8: Hey, trade that thirty or twenty nine pick, whatever it is.
1:07:52
Speaker 8: Trade that and next year's go move into the top
1:07:56
Speaker 8: eight to thirteen and get a superstar. I've been saying
1:07:58
Speaker 8: this for years. Get rid of the first round picks.
1:08:00
Speaker 8: He's terrible at him anyway. He drives better in the third,
1:08:05
Speaker 8: fourth round, any third through seventh round.
1:08:07
Speaker 1: Anyway.
1:08:07
Speaker 4: Trade it away. We don't need it, Okay, all right, listen, I.
1:08:14
Speaker 5: Sincerely, I just appreciate both of your time today, Justice
1:08:17
Speaker 5: and Mama Monday. I really do, I really do, salute
1:08:20
Speaker 5: you guys and appreciate you all season. Listen, Nicol City crew,
1:08:24
Speaker 5: almost a thousand people watching today.
1:08:26
Speaker 4: We really appreciate you, guys.
1:08:27
Speaker 5: I know I could speak for DT when I say
1:08:29
Speaker 5: that Season four has been a really a resounding success.
1:08:33
Speaker 5: Shout out to our creative director Olivia Nagel, who has
1:08:36
Speaker 5: helped make us look so much better on social media,
1:08:38
Speaker 5: because again I am not tech savvy, so I don't
1:08:40
Speaker 5: know what the hell I'm doing, and she hooks up
1:08:42
Speaker 5: all the probos and the songs that makes us look really,
1:08:45
Speaker 5: really good. So we really would not be able to
1:08:47
Speaker 5: do it without her. Shout out to our sponsor this year,
1:08:49
Speaker 5: Queen City Vintage for the giveaways. We really appreciate that
1:08:52
Speaker 5: that helped out with fan engagement, helped us get more
1:08:55
Speaker 5: followers and just talk to more members of the mafia.
1:08:58
Speaker 5: So we really appreciate you, guys, Nick and you guys
1:09:01
Speaker 5: at at Queen City Vantage DT. You know I love
1:09:03
Speaker 5: you like a brother from another mother.
1:09:05
Speaker 4: Man.
1:09:05
Speaker 5: You are my bills brother. I cannot wait personally on
1:09:09
Speaker 5: a personal level, I cannot wait to get season tickets
1:09:11
Speaker 5: again next year and get him back and be with
1:09:13
Speaker 5: He just fell out again, but he knows how much
1:09:15
Speaker 5: I feel. I will be back in the building for
1:09:17
Speaker 5: the final season at the Ralph my home' that's my home.
1:09:22
Speaker 5: When they say where else would you rather be than
1:09:25
Speaker 5: right here right now? That is literally how I felt.
1:09:28
Speaker 5: Anytime I hear that, it gives me chills because Marve
1:09:30
Speaker 5: believe it was so absolutely correct in that statement. I
1:09:34
Speaker 5: would never want to be anywhere else than right there
1:09:36
Speaker 5: on a Sunday morning. Princess Ivy came this year, so
1:09:39
Speaker 5: I had to be there for my baby girl, my
1:09:41
Speaker 5: first daughter, and that's why I skipped this year.
1:09:44
Speaker 4: But I promise you she is old enough to hang
1:09:46
Speaker 4: out with her mama and Aunties. Next year. I am
1:09:48
Speaker 4: going to be right.
1:09:51
Speaker 1: Buildings.
1:09:52
Speaker 5: I is going to be right back in the building
1:09:55
Speaker 5: next year with my partner in crime DT. So DT,
1:09:58
Speaker 5: I can't wait to be back with you next year.
1:10:00
Speaker 5: I'm really looking forward to it. What a historical season.
1:10:03
Speaker 5: As we close up on the route next year, it's
1:10:06
Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of emotion, great opponents. I saw
1:10:09
Speaker 5: the opponent list. It looks killer. I expect a lot
1:10:12
Speaker 5: of night games again, DT, and in prime times because
1:10:15
Speaker 5: that schedule looks killer for those home opponents.
1:10:17
Speaker 1: So you got to put Josh Allen.
1:10:20
Speaker 3: Hey, I agree. I agree, it's gonna be It's gonna
1:10:23
Speaker 3: be awesome.
1:10:24
Speaker 6: We're gonna have to bring the truck to the last
1:10:26
Speaker 6: game because we're just gonna unbold our seat and take
1:10:28
Speaker 6: it with us.
1:10:33
Speaker 3: No, thanks, thanks Rob. What a what a great season
1:10:35
Speaker 3: for Nickel City crew.
1:10:36
Speaker 6: I think, you know, we would say this is our
1:10:38
Speaker 6: biggest one yet and and more more to come. You know,
1:10:41
Speaker 6: we're we're just kind of tipping the iceberg with what
1:10:43
Speaker 6: we can do. Thanks, uh, thanks, Justice and Mama Money.
1:10:47
Speaker 6: You guys obviously always great. It's a good, good year,
1:10:50
Speaker 6: a lot of a lot of enjoyment. I'm gonna go
1:10:52
Speaker 6: watch them Josh Allen highlights this afternoon. I think, just hey,
1:10:56
Speaker 6: we're we're we should be grateful. It's a great thing
1:10:59
Speaker 6: to be. It's a great place to be right now.
1:11:01
Speaker 6: And we're gonna run it back. We're gonna run it back.
1:11:03
Speaker 6: It's okay, you know, it's okay to feel bad about
1:11:05
Speaker 6: this one. But when we kick next September and seventeen
1:11:09
Speaker 6: runs back out there, We're back, baby, We're back. Thank you,
1:11:12
Speaker 6: Thank you for a great season. I really enjoyed it again, Rob,
1:11:16
Speaker 6: and you know, look forward to doing it again.
1:11:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I love you guys for sure. Again.
1:11:20
Speaker 5: I appreciate you, Mama Monday, I appreciate you Justice. Anytime
1:11:22
Speaker 5: I've ever reached out to you guys to come and
1:11:24
Speaker 5: join us. You're always ready to and I and I
1:11:26
Speaker 5: really truly appreciate that. Listen, Nicol City, Crue, Bill's Mafia.
1:11:30
Speaker 5: We are officially taking our break. We will not be
1:11:33
Speaker 5: doing a Super Bowl episode next week, none of that shit.
1:11:37
Speaker 5: This is it. We are signing off. Season four has
1:11:39
Speaker 5: been wonderful. Shout out to Richland Music our theme song.
1:11:43
Speaker 5: We love you Richland, and we really do appreciate you
1:11:46
Speaker 5: lending us the song and allowing us to use it
1:11:48
Speaker 5: for our brand DT.
1:11:50
Speaker 4: I mean, this is it. So listen. I will high
1:11:53
Speaker 4: lant you sometime before the draft. Brother.
1:11:55
Speaker 5: You know, we will talk obviously before then. But other
1:11:58
Speaker 5: than that, hit him with the go bills. That's how
1:12:01
Speaker 5: we end every episode. Listen, spread love out there, not hate.
1:12:04
Speaker 5: This world is so full of hate. You see it
1:12:07
Speaker 5: every day, not just in social media. I'm talking in
1:12:09
Speaker 5: real life as you're walking out and about across the world.
1:12:12
Speaker 5: Please spread love, not hate. It is so much better
1:12:15
Speaker 5: that way. These were my bills, thought said out loud.
1:12:18
Speaker 5: Hit them with the gold bills, y'all hit them with
1:12:20
Speaker 5: no bills. O bells underfeated, Oh go bills.
1:12:26
Speaker 4: I love it.