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Vibe Sesh 34: Climbing Cringe Mountain | Open Vibe Night · Vibe Sesh Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: You took me off guard.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: Damn, dude, this is the new Cisco, bro.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: Game God Cisco.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm just kidding.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_00: Game God.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, is that new?
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm learning.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm learning.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's psycho cybernetics, right?
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: Look, check this out.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm being serious, bro.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, like, Colby Bryant had the Black Mamba.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know that, right?
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know who the Black Mamba is, right?
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's a fucking character.
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  SPEAKER_00: New identity.
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  SPEAKER_00: The alter ego and so many of these like top athletes have the alter ego and singers
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  SPEAKER_00: and high performers, bro.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for me, dude, for real, I'm like the Vibe Samurai now.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm no longer Bruno.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's just my, you know, like earthly name.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_03: Would this be Benoit's like second life or
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: whatever that's called?
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's all connected, bro.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're connecting things now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you got to have that archetype, Cisco.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: If it's going to be Goldie, Cisco, let it be Goldie, Cisco.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where the fuck?
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  SPEAKER_03: Why not, bro?
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_03: It's interesting to just have someone you could emulate.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like you could just act, pretend, and maybe it becomes reality.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, just very interesting stuff.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just self-esteem, self-love.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, but what would you call it?
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  SPEAKER_00: What would you call that new identity for you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about this new archetype.
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  SPEAKER_00: This will help a lot of people, bro.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bro, what do you want that guy to be?
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  SPEAKER_03: Goldie was gifted his name.
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  SPEAKER_03: He didn't come up with it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Someone gave it to him, and it just hit right.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I feel like I have to be given,
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  SPEAKER_03: maybe by a mentor or something, because I think that was the energy of...
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_03: Him being called Goldie, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you're telling me I have to come up with a creative name.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Don't you worry about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got Astra model.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to think about this.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to think about this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next time, you will be ordained your new identity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let me think.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, shit, bro.
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  SPEAKER_00: And actually, let me do the archetyping.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to tell you who that...
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_03: That'd be a cool, like, kind of...
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_03: What do you see for me?
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: What would be the traits that I want to see in Cisco?
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  SPEAKER_00: Fearless, for example.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ready to climb Mount Cringe.
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  SPEAKER_00: Action-oriented.
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  SPEAKER_00: Action-biased.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fearless.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's fear, but you still move ahead.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: You still move ahead despite the fear.
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  SPEAKER_03: And Goldie even talked about something where it's like,
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_03: it's not even when you want peace that you just want complete comfort in your life.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's like the ability to have peace during discomfort and pushing through
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  SPEAKER_03: and regulating your nervous system.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like that's what people should optimize for.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, oh, shit.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because right now I struggle
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  SPEAKER_00: with that.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like this entire journey has been a mentorship for you, bro.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because I care about you so much, bro, that I design my guests around you, bro.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, dude.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what?
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: I was thinking about it.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: I was thinking about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it was half-half.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was half intentional and half subconscious.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what, like everything that we talk about is in my space.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I see things from people and the algorithms are showing me.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe it's just a nice project that you genuinely enjoyed having,
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_03: you know, like as you have just two vastly different perspectives.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then this one person is like a good bridge for both of us to,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know, just engage with them.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_03: And then, um,
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_03: I think too, like,
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: I think it's always good that you're trying to look out for younger people too.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm a good example to be there and you're like, for young Cisco here.
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  SPEAKER_03: But you know, because we have thousands of people watching this, guys.
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  SPEAKER_03: So we're really trying to impact, well, not just me, but I thank you for collecting guests.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I know it's always for the greater good of the listeners at the end of the day.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're pulling out some wisdom.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think what we do well is we try to include all generations because we have that range.
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  SPEAKER_03: So this impacts this group.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you know, like your thing about like the nervous system, which you mentioned, right?
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like you, dude, like you're so ahead of the game, bro.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the other thing.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's the funny thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm learning all of this like recently, bro.
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  SPEAKER_00: Last five years, motherfucker, that I'm even thinking about any of this shit.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: And you're like thinking about that shit now.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: So the nervous system thing, that's so important.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's, to be honest, Cisco, you know, I've tracked your progress.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're not taking even small action, okay?
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  SPEAKER_00: It is a fucking deep nervous system thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Bro.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: But let me tell you something, let me tell you something.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_00: Which affects nervous system.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And next week's guest, next week's guest, he has like 100,000 followers on TikTok.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: He's super legit.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's a nervous system guy, bro.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: He's going to drop something.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm soft.
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  SPEAKER_00: He is one of the few content creators because I'm too busy looking for my content and my ideas.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: I never watch content creators for enjoyment anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for him,
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  SPEAKER_00: because we're friends,
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  SPEAKER_00: every time I'm downloading a TikTok,
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  SPEAKER_00: I have to watch his videos because you can't close the app.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, it doesn't download.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I have to say this.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_03: Because I feel like some people do talk about that and you've come across it.
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  SPEAKER_03: What was different?
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  SPEAKER_03: This guy?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know,
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  SPEAKER_00: he just,
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  SPEAKER_00: I've watched so many videos,
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  SPEAKER_00: he's very, he's very confident of what he's saying, right?
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: And there's a story which we will find out in Vibe Sesh.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is some story why he went this route,
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: and is like so focused on trauma and nervous system and he had a lot
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: of great advice, you know?
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think we're going to do some therapy on you next week.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: All right, cool.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: Surrender.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's all.
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  SPEAKER_03: Surrender.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, let me ask you something.
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  SPEAKER_00: What is your Vibe Sesh ritual on Wednesday nights?
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  SPEAKER_00: Share with the audience.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, it's weird.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, this means a lot to us.
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  SPEAKER_00: It seems like we're just walking in, right?
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: We're just hanging out.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, just let's turn on life.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, dude.
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  SPEAKER_03: I deal with nervousness.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_03: Like, but...
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_03: So when it's a special guest, I'm like open vibe night.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel so safe.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, me too.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what it is.
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  SPEAKER_03: But now when there's a guest involved, I have all this pressure I build up.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_03: Dude, honestly, because of psycho cybernetics, I've been at least doing relaxation.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to call it a meditation because I'm not like really emptying my mind.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to relax my body, like all the limbs, everything, my jaw, like.
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  SPEAKER_03: And, you know, get to a point where your body feels like concrete sinking through the bed.
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  SPEAKER_03: I put eye mask, I put earplugs.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's just like no sensory.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I just really try to relax because a lot of this tension too is just like in the body.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I've learned I don't actually really need to clear my mind.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_03: Well, when your body is fully relaxed, Then I can completely focus on the mind.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's where visualization comes in because you feel nothing.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's like you're floating consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_00: You reached that point?
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: You reached that point?
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but I'm not too good at the visualization part yet.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_03: But like,
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel like it's been kind of nice,
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  SPEAKER_03: like how quick I can sometimes get relaxed in the body.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, I have to stay still though.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is a lot of progress though.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's a lot of progress, bro.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm so proud of you, bro.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_00: This is so great that you're giving me this update.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_03: Dude, this is like half an hour before a vibe session.
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  SPEAKER_03: So long,
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  SPEAKER_03: long story short, like, um,
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  SPEAKER_03: but then I try to visualize, like I try to imagine myself sitting at my desk here.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_03: I have my phone on this tripod and I'm like,
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  SPEAKER_03: imagining you opening it up and it's just good energy, good vibes.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_03: And then, I don't know.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_03: I try to like,
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_03: it's so hard because I'm like,
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_03: try to ask a good question, but I don't really know what this person might say.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_03: So I have to like make it up and I don't really know if they would say that or something.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_03: But the job is to do something you're like fully relaxed, do something well.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_03: And that's what the book says because you just embody this new self image
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_03: that you want to become.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_03: So your nervous system can't tell the difference between an imagined experience and reality.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you can basically create these scenarios.
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  SPEAKER_03: My biggest objective is to relax the body because...
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: So on Wednesdays, you're going through this routine.
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  SPEAKER_00: My mind triggers the fuck out of my body.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: But are you doing this every day or especially on vibe sesh night day to relax?
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_03: I would say it's... Yeah, I've been kind of inconsistent to perfectly do it every day.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_03: Vibe sesh for sure because I get more anxious.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_03: Let's just call it like three to four times a week.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_03: But the book is like, do this shit every day, motherfucker.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: So that's one of my problems because, well, the book says do it 30 minutes a day.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_03: But I think maybe starting small.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_03: 30 minutes
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  SPEAKER_00: a day.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's a lot of time, actually, if you think about it.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: But why can't you just do it at night?
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Do it at night right before, you know?
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well, if that counts, I do try to do that every night.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, you do that every night then.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_03: The goal is not to fall asleep.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_03: The goal is to be relaxed to then imagine
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: shit.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: So you tried it and you just... Dude,
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_03: and Goldie in his brotherhood shit, he'd be talking about psychocybernetics, bro.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_03: I can't believe it didn't even get brought up or something.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, why didn't you bring that up?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like we ended too early.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: I was looking out for him.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to talk to him more.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I've been down, yeah.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think he thought of our episode?
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_03: I could only imagine just kind of how he talks and who he only surrounds his self
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_03: with and energy with.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_03: I would never be in the same room as him, bro.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like it might have But I think he's adaptable to any situation.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_03: He's cordial, you know?
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_03: But I don't know.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_03: He's probably just expecting you.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_03: Because I feel like you don't let anyone know you have a co-host.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_03: What are you talking about?
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you do.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, I don't.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: I should probably...
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's a great feedback, bro.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: I learned from my mistakes.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: From now on, when I'm inviting guests, I should tell them, like, it's me and you.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: You kid, you know?
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Have you been bottled?
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: I just show up.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: They're like...
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: What the fuck is that guy?
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember one,
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: dude, one of the guests, I think it was Nicole or I forgot who, but you remember?
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was talking to her for like 30 minutes, 40 minutes.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't say a word.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: And she was like, hold up Bruno, hold up Bruno.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: I want to meet this guy.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: What's your name?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: The little guy?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Was that the doctor?
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, the doctor.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: You remember that?
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then she really wanted to get to know you.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: And we said she was one of our best guests ever because she was vibing so well with us.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because she's neurodivergent, ADHD, super focused, right?
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: Perfect for vibes us, yeah.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_03: This thing is ADHD.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_03: Like some people are like, oh, what's the topic?
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, it's evolving.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_03: You don't know.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like we're improv-ing.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_03: And that's why people got a request to speak so we can get some fresh.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_03: All right, guys.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go through the comments.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: Read the comments, sister.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I see there's a pinned.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, go ahead.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_03: So Lisa Carter.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: Which is why it's so important to be aware of your thoughts and feelings
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_03: and what you replay in your head and out loud.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_03: Given your nervous system doesn't know the difference between reality and fiction.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_03: Because your nervous system only speaks through feeling.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_03: It can't conceptualize language.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_03: So that's why you have to replay experiences and inventing experiences that induce feeling.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, man,
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  SPEAKER_03: my problem right now is Negative feeling is just this easiest,
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_03: frictionless thing to generate.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I've actually had a struggle to even recognize what positive
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: or feeling successful feels like.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: You can have it happen, but sometimes I just feel relief I got done with something.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I don't soak in how good it feels.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's my biggest problem right now because the goal is to carry
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_03: that successful energy into your visualization imagination.
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  SPEAKER_03: As you're becoming your new self-image, you should feel that good.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like while you're embodying it and doing it and stuff.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_03: And your nervous system grows with that because now you're doing that
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: day in and day out.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: It makes so much sense, bro.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: It makes so much sense.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm doing it more and more because of you, bro.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm learning from, dude, you keep saying you have nothing to teach.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: I've been thinking about this because of you and because you bring these things up.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I was thinking, I'm at an advanced level, but I still got a lot of negative talk, bro.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of negative talk.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: For you, bro,
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like in your position,
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_03: your visualization could be you sitting down to speak on a Joe Rogan podcast
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_03: or something.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: You're the guest.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: Your next level is you have your shit,
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: but you're going to get invited to others and then it's just going to compound.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you something.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, the visualization, you didn't even have to say that.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: I've been visualizing that and I'll tell you the specifics.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of specificity.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, me and Joe, I'm gonna be like, bro, I just wanna smoke one with you.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, can we do this live in public?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna be like, bro, I even have my speech ready.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say, bro, I know, like,
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: most of the guests,
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: they don't, they don't, like, celeb out and shit like that, but I gotta do it.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: This is just me and I love you, bro.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna tell them, like,
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: you had a huge impact in my life because I literally listened
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: to Joe Rogan number one,
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: literally Joe Rogan number one,
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: and And it's such a great story now that I think about it,
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: because it was like,
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: literally I listened, it was the first time a podcast was three hours long.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: The world had never seen long form content like that.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember listening, it was just literally him and talking to his friend Red Band, right?
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like me and you talking, right?
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, listen to it.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, this is going to be huge.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: There's two times I predicted something would be huge.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: Joe Rogan and UFC.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: I knew UFC was going to be huge after I saw number one.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: All of my friends know that I made those two big calls.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: But Joe Rogan, too.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: People are like, who the fuck is Joe?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, this podcast thing is going to take... And so I want to tell them that story, bro.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then you can't hide in a three-hour podcast.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's the beauty of it.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's why that's the other impact of that, right?
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's like, oh, shit, we got to be real here.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like the world's watching.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, people I'm sure have lied, but you know what I mean?
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like you can tell you can tell that they're lying.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_03: But the visualization, it would say, imagine you're in the seat across from him.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_03: The microphone's in front of you.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_03: He has air conditioning in the room.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's a little cold.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: You see Jamie in the corner who's manning the TV.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: I see his, you know, him and his bald head, a light on his head reflecting and bouncing off.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I didn't even know he was bald, but okay.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: No, Joe Rogan.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Joe Rogan.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Joe Rogan.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: The light is bouncing off.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, he has a hat.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but the light is bouncing off.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_03: The book is like, you just have to keep increasing the detail.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: Damn.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_03: You could visualize it like you're watching a movie screen, but it's like, no.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I smell the coffee and the marijuana that he's smoking right now, bro.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a green room you just got out of.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, I just saw his big gym.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: He likes showing off his big gym.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to ask Joe if we can work out a little bit and do some videos for
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: the Vibe Samurai channel.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: I already envision massive clips from the fucking Joe Rogan experience.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what the
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_03: book, like,
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_03: So when you get into that deep relaxation, all you have is exploration in space.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_03: And then now you're just focusing on that first person experience.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: And then what you have to do before that is use your positive past,
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: which generates that great emotion,
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_03: because you want to carry that into this visualization.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I'm struggling with that positive past actually making me feel something.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like I have an idea.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_03: It's like what I need to do, maybe a shroom trip or something.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't need to do a shroom trip, bro.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Seriously.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: You need to do a shroom trip.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: All right, let's see.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_03: Remember that like legal Amazon one that we were told about?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: I still never even popped those.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: I wonder if they expire.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: Hello.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yo.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yo.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: How are you?
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: What's up, buddy?
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_03: What's up?
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: How are you doing?
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Where are you from, brother?
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_03: I'm from India.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, dude, you're going to India, Cisco, right?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: He's getting married.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: His brother's getting married to India.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: Getting married to Indian girl, bro.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think about that, bro?
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: They're taking your women, bro.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: There's a shortage of women in India, I heard, bro.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: And they're stealing your women, bro.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_03: Bro, they got a billion.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_03: They got a billion.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_03: How you doing, man?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm doing good.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_03: You liking the conversation?
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_03: You guys carry on.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'll watch you live.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_03: All right, buddy.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for coming.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm out, buddy.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_03: Amazing.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's see who else wants to come up.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_03: Did he request or you requested him?
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_03: He requested, bro.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: What's
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: happening, guys?
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: What's up, Bruno?
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: What's happening?
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: What's happening, brother?
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for having me on.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: How are you feeling?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: Great, man.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm over here in California.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: Damn, son.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Best state in the country.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: I'm in, uh, you know where like Santa Barbara is?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: Damn.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: You Santa Barbara guy?
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's a nice name, bro.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well, our north, Pismo Beach.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I'm over here.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: You're living life, bro.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: You're living life.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I am living the life.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: I am, man.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: I've been following you for a while and it's been great, man.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's been really nice to just watch your journey and I'm going on my own and, uh,
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's been a trip,
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: doing this thing,
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: putting myself out in the public and just,
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: telling about people about all my problems and having people say,
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_02: wait, I have that problem too.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: Santino, why don't you tell us,
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: so Santino and I, we met and he followed me and then I followed him.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: We exchanged some DMs.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: So, and by the way, Cisco is my co-host, Santino.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: So, Cisco is my co-host.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: Nice to meet you, Cisco Santino.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, good.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: But Santino, tell us your story.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Tell us what your account is about.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Tell us kind of when the divorce, how long you were met, all that.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: Great.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'll start from the beginning.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: So a couple of years ago, um, I, uh,
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: split up with my wife after 27 years and, uh,
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: people often,
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: when I tell them that they go, I don't know if to say I'm sorry or congratulations.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's always awkward when someone tells you that,
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: you know, and I say, it's more congratulations.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_02: Congratulations.
• 21:30
  Love it, bro.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Make a video about that, bro.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's what you gotta make a video about.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: I love the brainstorming.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give you a lot of video ideas, bro.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: I love this.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: I will.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, it's funny.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there's no...
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: There's no hate or any disdain.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: We're friends.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: We just got married at 23, and sometimes things run their course and people just change.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: We were super young when we got married.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think changed, if I may ask?
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: What aspects changed, you think?
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: And it's great, by the way, that it was not antagonistic.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's a very typical story, so you're very blessed with that.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I'll dig into it.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: I put my whole life out on the internet and people know my story, some of it.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I think what happens is really when you have children,
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: all this love and energy that you have as a couple,
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: and then once you have kids,
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: you put all that love into your children, which is expected, which is amazing.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: But sometimes you forget how to love each other and what your love was all about
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: before you had children.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I tell people this when they ask me, well, how do I stay together?
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, well, don't forget the date nights.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_02: Don't forget to be in love with each other and not just love the kids.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, after a while, I think that kind of pushes people away.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: You just focus on the kids more than you focus on the relationship.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: And so, and then we just kind of grew apart.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: Our interests grew apart.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I started DJing a lot and she didn't like that too much.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: I've been DJing for 20 years, but I got decent.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you guys know the artist Justin Martin.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Have you heard him before?
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Sounds familiar.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: A month ago, I was one of the
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: openers for him in Santa Cruz.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'll send you my SoundCloud after this, Bruni.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: You can check me out and you can bump to it when you're cleaning the house
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_02: or whatever, you
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: know?
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: We'll start Vibe Sesh with that music, right?
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, Santino, another video idea?
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: You got to turn your music on and you got to fucking do your shit.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'll just bump to it.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: Have you done one of those or not?
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: I know, but I have all these ideas now.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: You got to get crazy.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: This is why this episode is called Climbing Cringe Mountain, bro.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we're climbing the Cringe Mountain.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Clowns Mountain, bro.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: I love it, man.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: So you guys grew apart, but why couldn't you come back then?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so we did a lot of counseling and we just decided that...
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: We're different people.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_02: I know so many of my friends have been married for 20, 25, 30 years, and they're not happy.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: They're miserable.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_02: And so we made a decision, do we want to be married just for the sake of being married?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: Just to say we pulled it off.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_02: Our parents are both married and divorced three,
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_02: four times, and we promised ourselves, oh, we're not going to do that.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: And we tried.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we went to counseling.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: We just didn't throw in the towel.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: 27 years is a long time.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: But at the end of
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: the day,
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_02: we just decided that we wanted just to live different lives
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: and we could be healthy friends.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: And our kids are old enough.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_02: My youngest is 17.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: And my middle daughter is 23 and my oldest is 27.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, they weren't young kids, but, you know, they were still hurt.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so, you know, we split up a couple of years ago and then...
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_02: And then in January,
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: I decided I want to pick up a camera and just start talking about my story
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: of living alone.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: So the first three, four months, I just started talking about living alone and how great it was.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of loneliness content and people just resonated with people.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: People love being alone.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, that's a movement right now.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so and then I just kind of,
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: also sprinkled in stories about my life,
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_02: about the divorce,
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: about what it feels like,
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: about being hurt, about You know, being happier, all these things.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: And so what kept me going was the fact that just the,
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: massive amount of DMs of people saying,
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_02: you're in my head, you're saying the things I only think about.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for, you know, basically talking about my life and validating it.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: And because it is cringe, you know, and having to tell my story over and over and, uh,
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: Did your family think it was cringe?
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Was your ex-wife like, please don't do that?
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I told her I've never thrown her under the bus.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_02: I've never got into the nitty gritty details of, you know, what happened.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just going to keep that to myself.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_02: So it wasn't really appropriate to put it online,
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: but just, you know, and she knew that she doesn't watch my content.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I promised her, I'm not going to go out and air dirty laundry.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody really needs to know.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, you had that conversation.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: That's amazing.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: Goddamn.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_02: I've got kids, and I just want them to be proud of me.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: They don't really support my content.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_02: My son's like, Dad, why don't you do travel content?
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: Why do you keep talking about stuff that's sad?
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, well, that's what people know me for.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: I just can't switch lanes.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: But do you do want to switch lanes every now and then or what?
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: I'm starting to get more into dating content.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I saw that.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_02: Men have reached out to me, asked for some help.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: And just my experiences now that I'm dating a little bit, you know, what that's like.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not the pickup artist coach.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm more of like, this is how you, I'm not one of those guys.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I give them props to do well.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we grew up with The Game, right?
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: The Game and Mystery and Neil Strauss.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: You remember these guys?
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: The Game, yes.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I remember The Game, yeah.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, right?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: That was our generation, bro.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: But you were married probably at that time.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was married.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_02: I got married in 98.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_02: But I heard about it.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_02: So people recommended it to me, actually.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_02: But now, so I'm dating after, you know, being married.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_02: I've had...
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: Couple, you know,
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_02: light relationships and then,
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: you know, um, trying some apps and it's a, it's a weird wild world out there.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: I got to tell.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: What are some of the most interesting observations so far being out there?
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because that is hysterical, bro.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like I've been single for so long in terms of my, you know what I mean?
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm kind of used to.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: You're not dating
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: at all?
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: You're not dipping your toe in the water?
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, I'm definitely dating.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: But I, I'm saying I figured out my lane.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: I live in Brazil and, I meet women on language apps.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: I made a video about this, so I talk a little bit about dating.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's my thing.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: Bruno, one thing I didn't expect was the amount of people that men and women,
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: mostly women, that reach out to me in DMs and want to date.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sure you get that all the time.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's insane, right?
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's like too much almost.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, I can't look at all these.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: Limbounds.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I told you, Cisco.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's when you got to get it online.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: But we'll come back to you.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: We'll come back to you.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we got to get it online.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: All the uncles.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: All the uncles.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: They're getting the ladies.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because we're playing the content game, young man.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: We're playing the content game.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_02: We're spreading the love.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I mean, I've dated a few women.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'd say 50% want something serious.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_02: The other 50 don't.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: And there's just a lot of people that are broken out there that have been on
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_02: the dating apps that don't trust men, don't trust the dating experience altogether.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: They're just fragmented in what they actually want.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: They don't know.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_02: They've got some sort of attachment issue or something.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, there's just a lot of that out there.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: I want to go organic, not online, not an app.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to be in a park somewhere,
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_02: like doing Qigong or something and have someone come up to me and be like,
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_02: you like martial arts too?
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't you do that?
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't you do that?
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe give it a try.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: Give it a try.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: Have you tried that?
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: I have.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: I did meet somebody and it was funny because a friend introduced me to her
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I met her and she goes, were you in the park doing Qi Gong like two weeks ago?
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: Because I walked by you and wanted to talk to you.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: I said, that was me.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't you do more of that, bro?
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_02: We dated for a few months.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: Wonderful person.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_02: Just she wasn't ready for a relationship.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_00: So you are part of the 50% that wants Sirius now.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: You're ready for another series.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know, what's crazy is I wake up one morning and think like, I really want serious.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_02: And then another morning I wake up and go,
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to have to like reply to texts and make plans.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: I like this freedom.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like I'm just straddling serious because I've only,
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: you know, been without for two years, uh, being married.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: And, uh, at some point though, I want a relationship with someone.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: I want to have, um,
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_02: somebody just,
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: you know, But I'm also not the kind of guy that wants like a body count either.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's not my goal.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm just also like the freedom of, you know, just being able to do what I want.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: So, but yeah, so then that happened.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: And then I picked up the camera and started talking about it.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_02: And then, you know, I got a lot of head nods.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people agreed with me.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I just started,
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_02: I kept because of,
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: the people that were just reassuring me that I was helping them constantly
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_02: on comments and DMs.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_02: And I thought I'm doing a service like, My family just thought it was crazy.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I go, well, you don't realize how many people reach out and say, thank you.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: I had a priest reach out to me and said,
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: I showed your content to some of the clergy in here about your dating
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: and keep going.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_02: We love your content.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you probably get that too, Bruno, right?
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_02: You probably get just validation from people that cringe
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: mountain.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: My love language is words of affirmation.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: Think about that.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Think about that.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's always been words of affirmation.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'll become a content creator.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: Just showering me.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: Showering you.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: Showering me.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: Fucking validation after that.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, if I'm like sad about something or angry,
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: I literally go to my Instagram and start reading comments from old videos.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, I feel so good.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know, literally, it's like a dopamine machine.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a good type of dopamine, you know?
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_02: It is.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just this bubble, this ego bubble.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: And you really got to just pull it in sometimes and check yourself and think I'm just a human.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: Verbalizing my experiences, you know, and so it's one of those things.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: So, but, um, Holy shit.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: Same story.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: Also years of growth.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: So let's see.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: Carter says facts.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Holy shit.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Same story.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: Santino.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: Also years of growth and aging, evolving apart.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: There it is.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: Case in point.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_02: So a lot of folks out there going through it.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_02: And, uh,
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: so I feel like,
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: you know, just,
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: just people, um,
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_02: Validating that they are feeling the same way that I felt or they're going
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: through it.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, they appreciate the content.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: So it keeps me going.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_02: Even it's Cringe Mountain.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: But it's not all Cringe Mountain.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: But, you know, some days I'm sure you post things, right?
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_02: And you're like, did I just say that?
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_02: I put that online.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_02: And then I think.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: I think, well, who the fuck cares?
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: I could die tomorrow anyway, right?
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: Who cares?
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm becoming more and more like that.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: Who the fuck cares?
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm literally trying to put more cringy stuff to just say, who the fuck cares?
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_00: And it's working, actually, because then you start getting used to it.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Literally.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm scared because I have like a video ready where I'm walking on a nude beach,
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: but you're going to see my ass.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, no way.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: Is that too much?
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: Or no?
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: Go.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: Do it.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, do it.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: YOLO.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, you've seen how many chicks,
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: how many women are
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_02: 80% naked on an Instagram reel,
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_02: all squirrel, and I'm thinking, is this Pornhub I'm looking at?
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_02: No, this is Instagram.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: These chicks are like halfway naked on here.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: Do you see that some of the stuff they're put on there?
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's insane.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: So then my butt is nothing you're saying.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's mild.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's like super mild.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: All right, I'm going to do it.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: Cisco, what do you got
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: so far?
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think?
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_03: No, I'm just trying to,
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_03: because I feel like I,
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_03: I can't necessarily relate, you know, haven't been in that situation.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm just trying to take it and see where I can ask a question.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: I guess I was curious,
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: just kind of the responses you're getting from other men and like,
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_03: what's like the trends of problems or like things that are like coming to you
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_03: with like in general, I guess.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think,
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_02: it's men trusting women again,
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_02: wanting to date But being burned maybe in their relationship.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, hundreds of men.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_02: My wife just left me after 30 years.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what to do.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, a lot of it is depressing stuff that I read.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, sometimes I'll reply, it just sounds like you need some therapy.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's beyond my scope.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm sorry you're going through this.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just like a day in the life guy.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_02: This is what happened to me.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: If watching me rebuild,
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: if you see some things in me and rebuilding that you want yourself,
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_02: you know, reach out.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know,
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_02: but some of the guys, though,
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_02: are worried about dating,
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: how to, you know, put themselves out there and how to trust.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I would say that's probably one of the biggest ones.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: And even women that reach out is how do I ever trust again?
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: your answer to that.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: What's your answer?
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: A tough one
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: for women.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so, you know, the answer is mixed.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I would say that,
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_02: a lot of these guys I'm saying be really comfortable being alone and date,
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: um, not because you have to fill a void, but because you want to.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_02: And I made that mistake.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_02: Men will rebound immediately.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, it'll be sad.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: They need to wake up next to somebody.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_02: They miss sex.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_02: They miss all these things.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_02: But there needs to be a good amount of healing time.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if that's a year, two years, five years for some people.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: But I think you need to get to the point where you're detached from outcomes of
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_02: whether or not the person that you're pursuing likes you.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_02: And it sounds easier than it is,
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_02: but I think if you can get there and just be okay with whatever might happen,
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: Then you're in a good place.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: If you're going to be devastated again,
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_02: if somebody doesn't reciprocate the amount of affection and love you're giving them,
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_02: you're not in the right space.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: But Sam, how do you detach from the outcomes then?
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: Why are you so wise, by the way, bro?
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: Is this something you just learned recently or you've been studying mind and all this stuff?
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're talking detachment from outcomes.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's very Buddhist, right?
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Very kind of Zen.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: So a little personal story.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: I was raised in the Catholic Church and in about 2010,
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_02: My ex and I decided it wasn't for us.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_02: And close to my house, there's a Japanese Jodo Shinshu Buddhist temple.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: So we decided we wanted to explore it.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_02: And we became members.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_02: I was on the board for 12 years.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_02: We raised our kids in the Buddhist temple.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: He's a Buddhist, bro.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, let's talk Buddhism, bro.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: We raised our kids in the Buddhist temple.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, the impermanence.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what really helped me.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_02: So if you can release yourself from these attachments,
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: Life gets better.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I really went back to my Buddhist roots to answer your question.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_00: See, we're going deep.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, you got to talk about this kind of stuff too on your channel, bro.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_02: Seriously.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: Have you talked about any Buddhist stuff yet?
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: About all this stuff?
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like all these things that will help men.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's a great intersection to Buddhism.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_03: It is.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_03: I have a lot of like Christian men coming to you.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_02: This is amazing.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do have a real I'm going to post on it about exploring different religions.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: I've been to a couple of different churches.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know,
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: the thing about my Buddhism,
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_02: the temple, the reverend there said, you know, you can be Buddhist and Christian.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's just a better way for you to know your God.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: Which I thought was great, you know, whatever that might be.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_02: So there's a book called Jesus and Buddha Living as Brothers.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: And it's a fantastic book.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think that's what drew me to it.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's not my way or the highway.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's you can have these practices and live, you know, with different belief systems.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_00: But what I'm saying is there's a lot of good ideas from Buddhism, right?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: That just transcend religion, you know what I'm saying?
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: But can you tell us more about detached from outcomes?
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think that's a big problem for all of us.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: And for me,
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: Recently,
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think I've been doing a better, better job, and I like saying surrendering, right?
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_00: Surrendering to the universe, which is another way of detaching from outcomes, right?
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to set an intention,
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to take aligned action,
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: and then I'm going to surrender to the universe, right?
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I've been trying to do that more and more.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's not easy, but so how do we tell people, how should we get there?
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like young Cisco here.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because he's always attached to outcomes.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we all are.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's just our human nature.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_02: We all are.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_02: We all possess all these things.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_02: And so we all want these certain things in our lives.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_02: And if they don't come together, it hurts us.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_02: Detaching from outcomes is if you like someone and they don't like you back,
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: You just kind of think, okay, this person's not for me.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_02: Or if you think like, oh,
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_02: this person's going to be my girlfriend or boyfriend and they're not,
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_02: you've built the story in your head about why the person's right for you.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: But when you can deconstruct that story and think to yourself, if this works out, great.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: If it doesn't work out, it will work out with somebody else.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_02: I tell people how many times have you had a job in your life and you've got fired
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_02: or laid off and the next job was better.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's really interesting how the world gives us things,
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_02: life gives us things, and it's always a little bit better the next time.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: And so I tell this to people and they think, oh, yeah, you're right.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_02: That last job I had was shit.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_02: This was so much better.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: And so if we can detach from trying to control and possess something,
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: you can love something and you can try to have hope for it.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_02: But if it doesn't work out, just don't let it devastate you.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm speaking to everyone and myself.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's a constant learning process for me.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_02: Dating people that I like,
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_02: maybe they don't like us as much or they want to end our relationship,
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: then that's fine because there's someone else out there that's going
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_02: to see your value and your worth.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Goldie says, I like who likes me.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_03: That's all he operates by.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's right.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like who likes me.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: Choose who chooses you.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, he was our guest last week and that's his motto.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: He's a dating guy.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, cool.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, choose who chooses me.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: I like who likes me.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: I like who likes me, right?
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because he told this story of like, he mentors his uncle, right?
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: So they were at some club and this guy,
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: young Goldie,
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: was trying to hit on some girl on the dance floor who's kind of like flirting
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_00: with him, would show him attention and then not show him attention.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: And then he was all disappointed and the uncle puts his arm around him.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, you see that girl, that funny looking girl over there?
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: She's been looking at you all night, bro.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: She's been looking in on that.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: And he said, literally that moment was life changing.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: He said it completely changed the trajectory,
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_00: which I'm telling you,
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: like Gary Vee said this, but he was like, sentences are powerful.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: I love that descriptive, right?
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like just what is that?
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: Go look at that funny girl.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_00: She's been looking at you.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then he comes up with his life philosophy of, I only like who likes me.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_02: No, it makes sense.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_02: And you only put energy into people that see your value.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's what a lot of these guys are doing is they're trying
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: to replace their marriage with somebody real quick and making a mistake.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_02: They're trying to fill a void and they're not seeing the red flags.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's what I talked to some of these guys about is just being so deeply
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_02: in love with yourself first, right?
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_02: Before you love anyone else.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's important.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_02: And growing up, I had a hard time with that, had some low self-esteem.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_02: And as soon as I figured out how to love myself and believe that I had value,
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_02: I was able to love other people because how are you supposed to love anyone
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: if you don't love yourself first?
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: Damn, bro.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: Cisco has a self-love problem.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: He has a self-esteem problem.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm serious.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm serious.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and he,
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: before you came on board,
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: we were talking,
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: he was saying he knows this from an awareness standpoint,
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: but it's his nervous system.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: He, you know, like,
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: it just holds him back, even though from a knowledge standpoint, he understands.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: So we're like, Cisco, tell me your situation.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, because he's been doing this.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: So let's, yeah.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, I guess it's more so that like, I can really experience negativity just so perfectly.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_03: And like any positivity towards myself, like the self-love, the self-esteem, it's not natural.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: It's not like an automatic thing that I can really elicit emotion and stuff.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_03: And so I've been trying to navigate that because it's so easy for me.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm understanding self-image and how you believe about yourself is downstream
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_03: to now your behaviors in it.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_03: It's exactly how you move and operate.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_03: So if you think you're a loser, you will do loser shit.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_03: You will self-sabotage because you feel it in your bones
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_03: and your nervous system will make it true.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_03: And that's what psychocybernetics says.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_03: Your nervous system is impartial to the goals you set for it.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_03: So if you're setting complete failure as a target to focus on, it will be successful at failing.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_03: But if you can change that target towards success and doing better things like Yeah.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm like so self-aware of it, but I'm struggling to even have that.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_03: And you know,
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_03: this gets into people pleasing and you,
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_03: you compromise on things with women too,
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_03: for example, just to get with them, just for them to be in your life.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_03: So you need to be honest and authentic with what you truly believe.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: And if it's misaligned and Goldie just teaches you, like, you have to be willing to walk away.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's where all the power is.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: People will keep investing into something they should have walked away from.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_03: And so liking who likes you, you know, and you have the ability to walk away at any time.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_03: Like, anyway, it's just so powerful.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_03: So I've been ever since he was the guest, because I've heard him here and there.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_03: It's basically putting yourself on a pedestal.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you're the fucking king, bro.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think I was watching an Instagram reel.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_02: Someone was saying, Basically, you just have to walk around thinking you're the shit, you know?
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, basically,
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_02: in relationships,
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_02: not being pretentious,
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_02: not being an egocentric maniac, but also like, hey, I've got a lot to offer you.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_02: I've got a lot of value,
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_02: and I'm going to let you come into my life if you add to my life
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_02: and lower my nervous system, you know, co-regulate your nervous system with me.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_02: Don't make me anxious.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_02: Don't make me question myself,
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_02: you know, because I'm going to treat you the same way that you treat me.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I think a lot of these guys are,
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_02: they're almost attracted to women that are,
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: you know, kind of disruptive to their nervous system.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's almost addictive in a way, you know, the ups and downs and the makeup and breakup sex.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_00: Why is that addictive, that part?
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's me.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: You described me.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_02: Well, think about what sex is like after you break up and you make up or what it's like
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_02: if you're getting along.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_02: So maybe it's a little spicier because like,
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_02: oh, shit, we just came through this thing and like we're making up now.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like so your nervous system is playing tricks on your dopamine
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: and all these things in your brain rather than you just getting along.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just a regular Friday.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: And you guys.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's different.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's healthier.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_02: But the fact that your nervous system is push-pulling you and then you're,
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_02: like, bonding again, then there's, like, an addictive property to it, you know?
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_02: What's happening?
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: Trauma bonding, yeah.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_02: Neurologically, what's happening?
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a scientist,
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_02: but I know that, you know, there's a certain, like, You probably know Bruno, right?
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_02: When you're like broke up and then you're getting back together with someone
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_02: and you're like, well, that was fucking fire.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what was that all about?
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to make it.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to make it.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: We've been through some bad times.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: We did it.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe so.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's something to that.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_02: I think just the just,
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_02: the consistency scares some people of,
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_02: you know, just getting too stuck too much in a routine.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, and not be having it spicy enough.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_02: But at our age, we're both 51.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I kind of like routine.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: You keep it spicy.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_02: I don't really need the nervous system,
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_02: you know, treating like an amusement park on a roller
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_00: coaster.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: You value peace more as you get older, at least some people.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know about everybody,
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_00: but someone like me and you, we start getting the peace more, you know?
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_02: And then I'll just finish up.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_02: So on Facebook, mostly it's an older crowd.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_02: When I post videos,
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'll just look at the comments and read and people say,
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_02: my peace,
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_02: you just said peace,
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: my peace is so important to me, I really don't want anyone disrupting it.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I hear that more and more of people that just love their peace and their autonomy.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_02: And when I reply to someone, does a human connection even feel good?
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_02: And does it even sound good, rather?
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_02: And 80, 90% say, nah, not really.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_02: I've got my family.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_02: I've got my friends.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_02: I've got my dog.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_02: I don't need a man in my life.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_02: It was toxic.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_02: He treated me like I was a short order cook, a maid.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_02: I don't need that again.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_02: My husband just died.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_02: I hear this.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_02: My husband just died.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_02: God, my life is so much better now.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so calm.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_02: I read these and I'm like, whoa, you were trapped in a prison, weren't you?
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_02: And it's for real.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_02: When you read these, it's like, poor thing.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_02: How many years were you putting up with that?
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: So Tony,
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_00: but you said something,
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_00: going back to something you said,
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: you said,
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: and maybe that was part of the reason for the divorce,
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_00: but in general, you just keep using the word freedom.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_00: You don't say peace, you say freedom.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_00: What does freedom mean to you In general,
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_00: in the way you're thinking about it,
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_00: and also in the future person that you want to meet,
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: because you said you want to have a serious relationship,
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_00: what are kind of the deal breakers in terms of the freedom aspect?
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_00: What does that involve?
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: Specify that.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm curious about all that.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_02: So when I use the word freedom, I was hanging out with a wonderful woman for a bit.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_02: And we talked about becoming serious.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_02: And I thought, well, my content, I'm making content about dating.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_02: And so I want the freedom to go to the grocery store and if I have an interaction
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_02: with somebody,
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_02: not feel guilty about talking to them and instilling confidence in men that,
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_02: hey, I just had this experience.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_02: So for me,
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_02: building content,
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_02: the freedom of being able to flirt or just talk to women at this point in my life
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_02: and not be tied down.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's a hard one, though.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: How many women would agree to that, though?
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's a hard one.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, there's a number of women that also want the same thing.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_02: They want to be poly.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_02: I've dated a couple of women that say, I'm never dating you exclusively.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'm dating you and three other guys.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_02: Either you like it or you don't.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, no, I'm in California.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's progressive in California.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_02: You know, San Francisco?
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: That makes sense.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, I didn't know that was happening.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I need to move there, bro.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_00: It makes sense, though,
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: that we're evolving and the world is changing,
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_00: we're adapting,
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_00: and the traditional marriage model for a lot of people doesn't make sense,
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_00: doesn't work, right?
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think about that?
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would say that it doesn't work for a lot of folks, and that's okay.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_02: If you're polyamorous,
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_02: You're gay, you're bi, whatever.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_02: My thought was whatever you do and there's consent and you're not hurting me as
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_02: a person, rock on.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_02: I have a lot of gay friends and I'm like, it's none of my business.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: Go live your life.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_02: And that goes with swingers and polyamorous people.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, if you've got it figured out with your spouse, who am I to say it's the wrong thing?
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_02: Go do your thing.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_02: And so
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there's a subsect of people, though, that still want one partner.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_02: They want to know that this person is,
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_02: you know, is going to have their back and they're going to be there for them.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_02: And jealousy is a big part of it.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, can you imagine, Bruno,
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_02: if you really like someone and she said,
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_02: I like you, but I'm dating this guy and this guy next Saturday.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you're going to have to think to yourself, do I want this?
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_02: Is this freedom for me or is this not does not feel good for me?
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know, everyone's different.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, but what are the freedom?
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: What else does freedom mean?
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_00: So being able to flirt with other women, what else?
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_02: Being able to flirt, being able to go on dates.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, freedom is being able to book a flight to Thailand, to Hawaii, wherever on a whim.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_02: Your friends ask you if you want to go snowboarding with them and not asking
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_02: for permission, not feeling guilty that you have something else planned.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's being nimble.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's being just yourself.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_00: And just being able to do- This is so progressive, dude.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_00: This is like frontier relationship.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't that what you have now, guys?
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_00: You have that kind of freedom, right?
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_00: But that's what I'm saying.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I always,
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_00: unlike you,
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_00: Santoni,
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have this burning desire to,
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_00: or however you call it, this strong desire to be in a relationship.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like,
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_00: it is this piece,
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_00: and I have different relationships with different women at different times.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm very honest,
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm very transparent in terms of,
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want kids, I'm not ready for a long-term relationship.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: So over time, I've been here 10 years, You know, I've developed relationships, you know?
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so the whole thing is so nice for me because I have that life and
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_00: then now I'm this content creator, so I'm passionate about what I'm doing.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: So life is good, you know what I mean?
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so then I think to myself, like, but I feel guilty a little bit.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like maybe I should be in a real relationship, right?
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like in a serious relationship.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of thing.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, I'm thinking about that.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_00: But then it wouldn't work in the traditional sense.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_00: But now you're showing me what's possible and what's happening in your neck of the woods.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like always my highest value.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: Freedom, being able to move, being able to do whatever I wanted to do.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like I wanted to ride motorcycles.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_00: My parents didn't want me to do that.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I did it.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, without them knowing or I was a skydiver as well.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, nice.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_00: And so I did all these things all in the name of freedom.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then at some point in my 20s, I got married early.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_00: For the wrong reasons.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_00: She was beautiful.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_00: It was like more of like a physical thing.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_00: She wasn't a bad person, but it was just very fast.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: And that was like the most terrible thing.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_00: I thought my life was going to end.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_00: I think I was 24, 25.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: Same age as me.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_00: That you got married.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_00: 23.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_00: So then, so I remember like lying in bed saying like, oh my God, my life is over at 24.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: My life is over, you know?
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_00: And that was like for a whole year and that whole thing.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: And it was just a mess.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: It was a complete mess.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_00: There's a huge fight with the money.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_00: I was making good money back then too.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so it was just like a terrible thing.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_00: But fortunately we didn't have kids,
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_00: but you know, that kind of like messed me up for the rest of my life, I think.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_00: Combined with the preference already to have freedom and then I was
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: in this bad relationship and she was very traditional.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_00: Super jealous.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_00: I had zero freedom.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: Think about that.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: A guy who loves freedom going to zero freedom.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so that was kind of traumatic.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, okay, I'm just going to be more like loosey goosey.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm generally monogamous.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, and then I had my periods and things like that.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so that's the story.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_02: You know, are you thinking at some point in your life,
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_02: you may,
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_02: or maybe you haven't made this decision though,
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_02: but maybe you have,
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to ask,
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_02: you may want to slow down and maybe not get married,
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_02: but find someone to just Give you your freedom,
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_02: but also be the person that you come home to or you cohabitate with
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_02: and have one person.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_02: Is that maybe in your future?
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_02: Have you not thought that far or what are your thoughts on that?
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_00: But this is what I'm saying.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_00: I don't really think about it.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't really think about it.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't really long for it.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of like, I don't know, because you talked about this in your video, too, right?
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm so used to the peace and the freedom.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like I don't even think it's just such a high standard now or whatever.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's the way I'm looking at it, right?
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like to bring in a woman that I'm going to be very serious with and go through all that.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like a lot of work in my mind, right?
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's cost.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_00: So it's You know, like the cost benefit doesn't work for me.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_02: The ROI.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: But what I'm saying is maybe I'm just so used to it, right?
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_00: So what do you think about that, Tony?
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, because you were talking about this in a video, like, oh, this is kind of dangerous, guys.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: The longer you wait, the longer you'll not find a serious partner.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: And that's me.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_02: The longer you stay single, the harder it is, yeah, to trust someone.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's me.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_02: That's me.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I see that in my content and I see that.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_02: The remarks, you know, the comments and the content and that is you.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that you get so stuck and people get so stuck in their ways and they get
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_02: so comfortable with their freedom.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I just feel like, Bruno,
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_02: honestly,
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_02: there's some people, though, that just really need a human connection every night.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_02: They need someone to sleep next to and they love the fact that they can share a life
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_02: with someone.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_02: Because when you're single,
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_02: there's periods of time for me, weeks, months without anybody around.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_02: But I think some people just are ready to have the consistent connection and someone
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_02: that shares their values and also maybe gives them their peace and their freedom.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_02: You have this dialogue conversation look like, I like you.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to live together, but this is what I do.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_02: I go on these trips on a whim.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_02: It may not be with you.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_02: Are you cool with it or not?
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe that's your conversation, Bruno.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_02: I love you, but I also want to be able to just bounce.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_02: Go to California and hang out with Santino.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: I've had that conversation multiple times.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because even though I'm very transparent,
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_00: women eventually,
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_00: because I am the Vibe Samurai,
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm fun and cool and amazing, they want something more serious.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_00: And so this whole idea is so far, but I've never experienced that is what I'm saying.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why I'm so happy to hear that somewhere in the world, these kinds of things exist.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_00: And by the way, Cisco,
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_00: our previous guest during the tea leave reading, she even said that, remember?
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_00: She was like, Bruno, I don't think this kind of traditional relationship is for you.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of different kind of styles, polyamorous, and she was a polyamorous person.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_00: She has a kid, but they have a polyamorous kind of thing.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_00: So she was saying that.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_00: But so for me, I've never met a woman who would be cool with that, is what I'm saying.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_00: I just haven't.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_00: Not yet.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, well.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_00: You may.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_00: You might.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_02: There's just so many different ways to approach relationships and get into relationships.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_02: If it's Polyamory or whatever it is, traditional monogamy.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_02: People comment, here's a wild thing.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_02: People comment, I love my boyfriend.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_02: We see each other once or twice a week.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_02: We have our own houses.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_02: We're monogamous, but we have our own lives and it works beautifully.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_02: And then when we don't, we don't.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_02: And we see each other, like I said, a couple times a week.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_02: So you're seeing that a lot.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm hearing and reading that a lot.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_02: We've got someone else bumping in here.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_00: What's up, brother?
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_02: How are you guys doing?
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, women, they give men trouble.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_00: You're breaking up, brother.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: The internet.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_00: The internet.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_00: Check the Wi-Fi.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: Check the Wi-Fi.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_00: The Wi-Fi.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_00: The Wi-Fi.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, damn.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_00: So, Santuna,
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_00: do you think,
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_00: so are you hopeful now,
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: now that you've gone through all this experience, that that woman is out there?
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_00: The one that your ideal,
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_00: let's not say perfect,
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_00: but the ideal situation, woman, that Is going to be more serious, etc.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_00: You think she exists or what?
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_02: 100%.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_02: 100%.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_02: You know, women are like buses.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_02: You miss the first one and there's another one coming 15 minutes later.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_00: Is that for both men and women?
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_00: It goes both ways, man.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, that's such a beautiful image, bro.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's a video right there.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_02: Come on, bro.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_02: Me at the bus stop and the bus passes me.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_02: Or I'm on the bus.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_02: No, so...
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_02: At some point, I don't think I'll get married.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, maybe.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I need to,
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_02: but I would like to spend many years, maybe the rest of my life with a person.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's for me.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_02: That feels good.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm used to that.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's 27 years.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_02: Right now, what I'm doing is great.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not rushing in.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not on the app saying who's going to be my forever person.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not doing that because that's attaching to outcomes.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_02: Who knows?
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm not closing myself off to it either.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not thinking, no, I can't have a forever relationship.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm also not wanting it, attaching to it, and desiring it, if you will.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_02: But do you prefer it?
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_02: At some point.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_02: You do prefer the eternity thing.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_02: At some point, I don't know
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_00: about eternity.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's five or 10 years, Bruno.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_02: How come I can't have a really cool-ass person for five or 10 years?
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_02: Why does it have to be 30 years?
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then you move on and everybody moves on and finds another part if you want,
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_00: if you want, right?
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think about renewing?
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_02: Someone brought this up.
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_02: You get...
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_02: Married,
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_02: not technically,
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_02: but you get into a relationship and say,
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_02: this is going to be a contract for five years.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_02: And then we decide if we want to continue to see each other at five years.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of radical, but it's like, you don't really, you know what I mean?
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_02: So you work towards it.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_02: You're working towards that goal of whether or not you're going to renew the lease
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_02: in five years.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, that's brilliant.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_02: Why don't you make a video
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_00: about this?
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_00: Everything's making video.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_00: There's too many video ideas.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, but that's brilliant.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't you speculate?
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't you speculate about that?
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't you tell us that in your neighborhood,
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_00: because you guys are literally,
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_00: I was joking before,
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_00: but California,
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_00: United States,
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_00: California,
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_00: you guys are the most progressive in terms of like the culture and what's happening,
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_00: right?
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: And so like I said, I have not met women like this yet.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_00: That would be cool with this kind of thing, right?
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_00: So you talking about is opening my eyes, brother.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_00: So you should make videos about that is what I'm saying.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_02: Did you say you're in Brazil?
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think it's because the culture there is about getting married and they're not
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_02: as progressive?
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_02: That's why you haven't met the women?
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_02: They're family oriented, right?
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_02: They're more Christian and Catholic and they really want the standard traditional marriage.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_02: I thought it was the opposite.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_03: I thought Brazil was like a whole hookup, like crazy, you know.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_00: No?
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_00: You have that side.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_00: You have that side.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_00: But you have another.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, the good girls that I like, you know, good values.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's a trade-off.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_02: But, yeah,
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_02: at some point, though,
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't mind like a ride or die,
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_02: you know, going trips with and that kind of thing.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_02: But, yeah, so for right now, I'm chilling and going fast.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_02: Going cringe and I have like ton of ideas now on this live.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you guys for bringing me on.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_02: I like the bus stop idea though.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to have to,
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_02: uh, I like the bus stop.
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'll have to sit there at the bus station with the helmet on though and see how
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_03: that goes.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_03: One visualization I heard was you're like a train that you just keep going forward
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_03: and people are hopping on and off your train.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_02: I heard that.
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_03: I heard that.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't like Corey talk about that too?
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_00: She might have.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_00: She was saying like, just be with yourself, but the other person is visiting you.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_00: There was a special guest,
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_00: Santoni, that where she was saying like, she went through a divorce as well, right?
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_00: Very cool woman.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_00: And she was saying
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_00: that the way she views relationships now is that You're a visitor
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_00: at my home.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like she has her own life.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_00: If I don't have you, I'm still good.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_00: I got self-love.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_00: I got self-reliance.
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm independent.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_00: I can enjoy myself.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_00: I can keep myself into.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_00: But if you're coming into my life, you're a visitor.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_00: You're a guest.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's an interesting idea.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_00: You like that or what?
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's beautiful.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, you know, you're coming into my life to add to my life.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_02: Not because I need it.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_02: I need you in my life.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I think so many men after divorce make a mistake running towards a feeling
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_02: of validation if their wife's left them for someone else.
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_02: Please want me.
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know,
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_02: they're thinking in their minds,
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_02: like help me close this loop that I have and make me feel validated that I'm worthy
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_02: of love and that you love me.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_02: And a lot of times relationships aren't healthy.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_02: So what I'm talking to guys is about like, you know, just like you said, Add to my life.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_02: And you're a visitor.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's well said.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_02: And I like that.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_02: You're a visitor.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_02: And to my orbit.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_02: This is my orbit.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_02: Without being a narcissist, but also just being self-aware.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_02: So I think there's a happy medium there, Bruno.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_02: I like that.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_00: Let me ask you,
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_00: Santoni,
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_00: so when you hang out,
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_00: because you've been married for so many years,
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_00: and you said there are a lot of couples that are in marriages that they're not happy
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_00: with, right?
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_00: So if you look at all your friends,
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_00: what percentage would you say are either unhappy or thinking about divorce or that?
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_00: Roughly, what percent of your friends, your colleagues, your circle?
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_00: I would say maybe
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_02: half, 50%.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's a good number.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think they're just, you just kind of get sick of each other a little bit, you know?
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_02: The truth is, and I feel like some of the wives, my friends, their wives have golden handcuffs.
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they don't work and they get taken care of.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_02: And so they're kind of just used to their lifestyle.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_02: And so they live a certain lifestyle.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to reinvent themselves and start over.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, right?
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's a reality for a lot of women that, you know.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_02: But I feel like, you know, they probably look at me with envy sometimes.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow, he's living by the beach and he gets the date and all these things.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_02: And then,
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_02: and then there's parts where they're like,
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_02: oh, it's so nice that I don't have to go do that.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because I remember when I was married,
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_02: it felt good to not have to, like, dress nice all the time and comb my hair.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_02: It was like...
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_02: This person's with me.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_00: Let yourself loose.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's what you've been working out, bro.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's what you're making workout videos now.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_00: You let yourself loose over those 27 years, huh?
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_00: My wife would be like, you got something
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_02: in your teeth right there.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, oh, thanks for telling me.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_02: Now I have to like, now I'm like paranoid.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_02: I'm looking every five minutes at my camera, like everything on my nose.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_02: Someone's over there.
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_02: There's no one to tell you anymore if you got shit on your face.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, video idea right there.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_02: You're grooming.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_02: Everything has to be dialed in now.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's okay, though.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah,
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_02: so I've got a call in 10 minutes,
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_02: so I'm going to jump off and tell you guys how much fun I had.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_02: It was nice meeting you both live.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for the questions and the engagement.
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for dropping by, bro.
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Come back someday.
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_02: Much love, guys.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_02: I will.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_02: Much love, buddy.
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for the video ideas.
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tag you on them.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_00: All right, bro.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_02: Bye, guys.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_02: Bye.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn.
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, my God.
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn.
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_00: What is, damn, he's a Buddhist, dude, that was like a plot twist right there.
• 1:10:25
  SPEAKER_00: He's a fucking Buddhist.
• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_00: Go, go.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, I'm just saying, I was just like, he's this guy so wise, like, what's going on here?
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he did that in his content, because I wasn't familiar, so I was like,
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_03: not really sure.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_03: No, bro, he doesn't talk about this kind of stuff.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_03: I honestly feel like I could not relate, bro.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_03: Any part of it?
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_03: Like detaching the outcome?
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like what he was teaching afterwards,
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_03: but like when y'all were talking about the divorce part and then like,
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_03: because like,
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_03: it's like decades of experiencing this thing and I'm only at,
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_03: two and a half decades of living,
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_03: and like half a decade of probably being conscious, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_03: Like, so don't even count, but that is so.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_03: What is so funny, though, is you guys are all saying the same things as Goldie, too.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_03: Bro, I'm telling you, everybody's connected, dude.
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_03: Not just even Goldie.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_03: People are optimizing for freedom and peace.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_03: To do what you want, when you want, with who you want.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_00: I would say freedom, peace, those two for sure, and play, dude.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_00: Chill maxing, play.
• 1:11:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like, And that's what people should optimize for.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_03: And then that's where it's like someone is going to join in on your train
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_03: because you aren't going to stop.
• 1:11:49
  SPEAKER_03: You have a destination.
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_03: And that's why it's important to have a destination too.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_03: Otherwise you have no tracks.
• 1:11:56
  SPEAKER_03: This train ain't going nowhere.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_03: So that's why they say like the masculine energy has to focus on purpose, not a woman.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_03: And then as you focus on purpose, only one or more Can join.
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_03: And then you just got to let them know like, Hey, I'm about my freedom.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_03: I'm going to see who I want.
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_03: If you're not cool with that.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_03: You can join my train.
• 1:12:21
  SPEAKER_00: What about for women?
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_00: So for, for men,
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_00: if you're like pointing at purpose,
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_00: isn't it the same thing for women pointing at purpose or is that.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_00: They can.
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and if a guy wants to join her train, they have to consent to that, you know?
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_00: That
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_03: book teaches you,
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_03: regardless of gender,
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_03: most relationships are a sexual polarity of the masculine energy and
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_03: the feminine energy, but it doesn't matter what the gender is.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_03: A woman could be masculine and a guy could be feminine.
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_03: If they consent, if it's all consensual, It works out.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_03: The book talks about that?
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's always the dynamic that has to be there for a relationship to like work, work, you know?
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like that's surprising.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't read The Way of the Superior Man.
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_00: I know that's a very popular book that's recommended for dudes.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, just in passing, I heard like, it's a little bit.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_03: Your gift to the world is your consciousness and how present you are and unshaken you are.
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_03: Because like the feminine energy is like kind of the chaotic and I guess rollercoaster.
• 1:13:37
  SPEAKER_03: And in the shit tests you shall receive by the feminine energy as the masculine,
• 1:13:43
  SPEAKER_03: you're meant to stay firm through the noise and find the signal in the noise
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_03: to like kind of idea.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_03: And that's what the constant shit testing is to do is to prove that like rigidity
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_03: in your character and in who you are.
• 1:14:01
  SPEAKER_03: And that's why unconsciously a lot of women can shit test you and consciously.
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_03: But they're so good at it just to keep you on your toes.
• 1:14:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_00: Damn.
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's a video idea for me, bro.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's interesting.
• 1:14:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to explore that a little more.
• 1:14:18
  SPEAKER_00: Think about that a little more about the whole.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, to summarize the book, it's like,
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_03: yeah.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm surprised.
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_03: I haven't even really thought about that book, but.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_03: and I guess you can do that at scale too when you're optimizing for that freedom
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_03: and you can have that experience with multiple people.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_03: And it's like Goldie, he's just so transparent.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_03: He's lying to nobody.
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, it's what I do.
• 1:14:47
  SPEAKER_00: So what do you think?
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_00: You've seen a lot of different things.
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_00: You've seen your parents who are happily married.
• 1:14:52
  SPEAKER_00: You've seen, I'm sure, divorces.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_00: You see your relationship with your brother, with his future wife.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_00: So that's young love right there.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_00: You see the Goldie thing.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_00: You see the Sam Tony's story.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_00: You see my story.
• 1:15:06
  SPEAKER_00: What are you thinking?
• 1:15:06
  SPEAKER_00: What are you vibing with?
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_00: What conclusions have you reached for yourself as a young man?
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_03: You and Goldie,
• 1:15:14
  SPEAKER_03: this concept of freedom and what that looks like,
• 1:15:18
  SPEAKER_03: because people will try to shame you for not building a traditional family.
• 1:15:25
  SPEAKER_03: But what Goldie kind of teaches you is that there's just so much propaganda
• 1:15:29
  SPEAKER_03: and programming that society instills in you and puts labels for you to conform to.
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_03: Even the idea of being a man,
• 1:15:39
  SPEAKER_03: that is just programmed labeling that once you identify with it,
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_03: you work hard, you do this, and it forces you into a role that you have to play.
• 1:15:49
  SPEAKER_03: But did you consent to that role?
• 1:15:51
  SPEAKER_03: You should at least think about it, agree to it, and then be it.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_03: You're just told, you know.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_03: So, he just gives you that perspective.
• 1:16:06
  SPEAKER_03: You know,
• 1:16:06
  SPEAKER_03: because I feel like you could still want to have that monogamy
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_03: if maybe that's really true to you.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_00: But what I'm saying, what is true to you, bro?
• 1:16:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I feel like I'm navigating that.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
• 1:16:19
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I haven't hit my potential where that abundance could be experienced and
• 1:16:24
  SPEAKER_03: then you just dabble in it to see what that's like.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_03: I've been in relationships before, so I'm kind of like, I don't know, I'm kind of torn.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_03: Because it sounds nice.
• 1:16:38
  SPEAKER_03: What sounds nice?
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_03: The relationship sounds nice?
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if it goes perfect.
• 1:16:46
  SPEAKER_03: If someone's more in love with their feelings than me, they could switch on me tomorrow.
• 1:16:54
  SPEAKER_03: He ended amicably,
• 1:16:56
  SPEAKER_03: but 27 years where they thought they were each other's Well,
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_00: maybe not 27, it was probably falling apart, like slowly.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, long time, long time, long time, long time.
• 1:17:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is wild to me too.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, it's a coin flip.
• 1:17:17
  SPEAKER_00: Marriage is a coin flip.
• 1:17:18
  SPEAKER_00: But this is what I'm saying.
• 1:17:20
  SPEAKER_00: It just doesn't make sense, right?
• 1:17:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like if you had 50-50 odds of skydiving and there was a 50-50 chance
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_00: that you'll die, would you do it?
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Of course not.
• 1:17:30
  SPEAKER_00: But we get married.
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:17:34
  SPEAKER_00: Even knowing that, because you know what happens?
• 1:17:36
  SPEAKER_00: You got cognitive bias.
• 1:17:37
  SPEAKER_00: You think, oh, that's not me.
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's not going to happen to me.
• 1:17:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm fucking aware and I know how to talk to, have a relationship and resolve problems.
• 1:17:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, brother.
• 1:17:49
  SPEAKER_00: You're like changing sometimes, just like this guy, right?
• 1:17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're just different persons.
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_00: He wants to DJ.
• 1:17:55
  SPEAKER_00: He wants to hang out with us.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's pretty crazy.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know how, we should have asked how she felt about it, right?
• 1:18:01
  SPEAKER_00: But maybe that was, I mean, that's, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's like so different.
• 1:18:05
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine, so who knows who was changing at what rate, right?
• 1:18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Because she started DJing, I'd be fucking
• 1:18:12
  SPEAKER_03: like, what the fuck are you doing?
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_03: Are you DJing over there?
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_03: But I don't know.
• 1:18:18
  SPEAKER_03: But that's where, you know, like, I also have to be honest about that shit too.
• 1:18:21
  SPEAKER_03: Like, Cause then people like that's controlling,
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_03: but now I have to say,
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_03: all right, well,
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_03: if I'm upfront about it and then you consent to still be with me,
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_03: like you agreed to that proposition.
• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_03: So now, you know,
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_03: instead of being deceiving or compromising on your own,
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_03: you know, beliefs and you're like, you, you let them go and do that stuff.
• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_03: So at least that's what I'm learning now is to just be willing to walk away if it's not aligned.
• 1:18:47
  SPEAKER_03: Cause that's the people pleasing part that I struggled with.
• 1:18:51
  SPEAKER_03: I would, Change myself to try to validate me and stay in my life and things like that.
• 1:18:59
  SPEAKER_03: So that's where when you validate yourself,
• 1:19:02
  SPEAKER_03: you can walk away from any person that's not aligned with you.
• 1:19:06
  SPEAKER_03: That's difficult
• 1:19:07
  SPEAKER_03: because sometimes you just like really like someone that's misaligned or something.
• 1:19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Let's take some questions Cisco.
• 1:19:17
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk to the audience, get more people up here.
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
• 1:19:21
  SPEAKER_00: We got 42 people here.
• 1:19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Come on up.
• 1:19:23
  SPEAKER_00: Talk to us.
• 1:19:24
  SPEAKER_00: We'll talk about other things.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_00: We promise.
• 1:19:26
  SPEAKER_00: We talk too much about divorce shit.
• 1:19:28
  SPEAKER_00: We talk too much about divorce shit and all this shit.
• 1:19:31
  SPEAKER_00: Old unk shit.
• 1:19:32
  SPEAKER_00: What are we?
• 1:19:33
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's go.
• 1:19:34
  SPEAKER_00: What questions do we have?
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_00: What should we talk about?
• 1:19:37
  SPEAKER_00: You guys have any questions?
• 1:19:38
  SPEAKER_00: You guys want to come on up?
• 1:19:39
  SPEAKER_00: I heard that the gray aliens do not partner up.
• 1:19:43
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh, that's an interesting point, right?
• 1:19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like aliens, if you think they're...
• 1:19:47
  SPEAKER_00: They're probably polygamous.
• 1:19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
• 1:19:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they're down with that.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it would just make sense, right?
• 1:19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, they would just figure out how to have sex with a lot of different things.
• 1:19:58
  SPEAKER_03: I like telepathy, you know, fucking, fucking.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Great question.
• 1:20:06
  SPEAKER_00: What's the next question, guys?
• 1:20:09
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I'm telling you, like, do you think UAP encounters and enlightenment are entangled?
• 1:20:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, goddamn, son.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_00: We got such a smart audience, dude.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn, that's a good question.
• 1:20:20
  SPEAKER_00: Aliens all of a sudden?
• 1:20:22
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, but he's saying, do you think UAP's encounters and enlightenment are entangled?
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't know.
• 1:20:29
  SPEAKER_00: I've heard those people that got abducted by aliens and they seem like idiots.
• 1:20:33
  SPEAKER_03: I just wonder what they mean by that, though.
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_03: Is it triggering black swans and the world wakes up?
• 1:20:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't know.
• 1:20:44
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean by entitlement?
• 1:20:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, entanglement.
• 1:20:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, enlightenment.
• 1:20:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:20:52
  SPEAKER_00: Very interesting.
• 1:20:55
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see here.
• 1:20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, I feel like in my comments sometimes, like I got some smart people in my comments.
• 1:20:59
  SPEAKER_00: They're so funny, like in my videos and shit.
• 1:21:02
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_03: You're proud of your followers.
• 1:21:06
  SPEAKER_03: They're intellectual omnivores.
• 1:21:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's right, baby.
• 1:21:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir.
• 1:21:15
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
• 1:21:16
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you know what?
• 1:21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was just asking AI about it.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_00: It says, bro, possibly and how they affect someone's consciousness.
• 1:21:22
  SPEAKER_00: So if you have a UAP encounter, right?
• 1:21:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's a profound shift in yourself and reality, bro, which is potentially enlightenment, bro.
• 1:21:36
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you see?
• 1:21:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:21:37
  SPEAKER_03: If I saw some alien motherfucker, Like,
• 1:21:41
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like my frame of reality would shatter,
• 1:21:43
  SPEAKER_03: like a genuine- That's
• 1:21:44
  SPEAKER_00: enlightenment, maybe.
• 1:21:45
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm trying to think, like enlightenment.
• 1:21:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like Plato's Cave, you know?
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, shit.
• 1:21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn, this is a video idea.
• 1:21:54
  SPEAKER_00: And combine this shit with Plato's Cave, bro.
• 1:21:56
  SPEAKER_00: You guys, guys, give us video ideas.
• 1:21:58
  SPEAKER_00: What else are we going to talk about, guys?
• 1:22:00
  SPEAKER_03: What do you want Vibe Samurai to ask?
• 1:22:02
  SPEAKER_03: Come on, guys.
• 1:22:03
  SPEAKER_03: Give me video recommendations.
• 1:22:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, video recommendations.
• 1:22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, what did you say?
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_00: Enlightenment is, and what was the thing?
• 1:22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I'm hot.
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_00: Plato's Cave.
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Plato's Cave and Enlightenment.
• 1:22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, got it.
• 1:22:17
  SPEAKER_03: Aliens.
• 1:22:18
  SPEAKER_03: Seeing aliens.
• 1:22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, is that Enlightenment?
• 1:22:23
  SPEAKER_03: I said it would break my frame of reality, like
• 1:22:25
  SPEAKER_00: how I perceive it.
• 1:22:27
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what I'm saying?
• 1:22:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's what it means, though.
• 1:22:30
  SPEAKER_00: When you have Enlightenment, you kind of see it's a little different, I guess.
• 1:22:34
  SPEAKER_00: You kind of see What the true nature of the universe.
• 1:22:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's enlightenment, right?
• 1:22:41
  SPEAKER_03: I guess it's being reality rather than your projection of reality,
• 1:22:46
  SPEAKER_03: like trying to see reality for what it is, right?
• 1:22:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:22:50
  SPEAKER_00: You create in your head, you know?
• 1:22:52
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:22:52
  SPEAKER_00: No, but what a UAP encounter does,
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_00: though, I think it's not the full thing, but it kind of gets you started, right?
• 1:22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're like, oh, shit, what?
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_00: What I've been told is not real.
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is not, it's almost like Bitcoin, right?
• 1:23:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like you, oh shit, this is not real.
• 1:23:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's not real.
• 1:23:09
  SPEAKER_00: But is that enlightenment where you're like,
• 1:23:12
  SPEAKER_00: you know, the true nature of yourself, your fucking Zen, your peace, right?
• 1:23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of people who have UAP accounts, I don't know, that would be an interesting study.
• 1:23:21
  SPEAKER_00: Do they have that peace?
• 1:23:23
  SPEAKER_00: Do they understand the true nature of reality and that we are just consciousness,
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_00: blah, blah, blah.
• 1:23:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, maybe.
• 1:23:31
  SPEAKER_00: That would be interesting.
• 1:23:33
  SPEAKER_00: That would be.
• 1:23:35
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
• 1:23:36
  SPEAKER_00: All right, guys.
• 1:23:37
  SPEAKER_00: What else we got?
• 1:23:38
  SPEAKER_00: Damn.
• 1:23:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think this is the new lives where we're discoverable.
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_00: We've had a consistent 40 concurrence, bro.
• 1:23:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be a good night for us, bro.
• 1:23:47
  SPEAKER_00: One of these days, it'll be a hundred, a thousand.
• 1:23:50
  SPEAKER_00: Damn.
• 1:23:50
  SPEAKER_03: Goddamn, son.
• 1:23:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of weird to think, too,
• 1:23:55
  SPEAKER_03: because,
• 1:23:56
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 1:23:56
  SPEAKER_03: this then lives on YouTube, which you guys should check out and podcast platforms.
• 1:24:01
  SPEAKER_03: But like, dude, this shit will live on for decades.
• 1:24:05
  SPEAKER_03: You're right, bro.
• 1:24:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I was worried about?
• 1:24:08
  SPEAKER_03: And you were munching.
• 1:24:10
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 1:24:13
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, you know what I'm worried about?
• 1:24:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's your authentic self.
• 1:24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, I was really, help me think about this, Cisco, because I was really worried about this.
• 1:24:21
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why I had this paranoia,
• 1:24:23
  SPEAKER_00: but I was like,
• 1:24:25
  SPEAKER_00: I have made By the way, I think I'm thinking Goldie Sisko is good, bro.
• 1:24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Because you know what?
• 1:24:30
  SPEAKER_00: He's impacted you so much.
• 1:24:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I like the name too.
• 1:24:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I liked him.
• 1:24:35
  SPEAKER_00: Sunglasses game.
• 1:24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you need sunglasses from now on.
• 1:24:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like all the time you should be wearing sunglasses.
• 1:24:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he says invest in some bougie shed jewelry.
• 1:24:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, bro, I've never.
• 1:24:47
  SPEAKER_03: Dude, you got to spend
• 1:24:49
  SPEAKER_00: some on that Bitcoin one.
• 1:24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Get a chain, bro.
• 1:24:51
  SPEAKER_00: Seriously, like a silver thing.
• 1:24:52
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, bro, maybe I'll hit you up.
• 1:24:53
  SPEAKER_03: I actually, I have no style.
• 1:24:57
  SPEAKER_03: I gotta, I gotta up.
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_03: You're gonna hit
• 1:24:59
  SPEAKER_00: me up, bro?
• 1:24:59
  SPEAKER_03: I don't have style, bro.
• 1:25:01
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, but you're grown, bro.
• 1:25:03
  SPEAKER_03: You've been around.
• 1:25:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, we need Goldie to style you, bro.
• 1:25:07
  SPEAKER_00: We need Goldie.
• 1:25:08
  SPEAKER_03: Dude, he's like, buy a 10K watch.
• 1:25:12
  SPEAKER_03: Buy this.
• 1:25:13
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, that's my bank account.
• 1:25:16
  SPEAKER_00: That ain't your bank account, bro.
• 1:25:18
  SPEAKER_00: I know how many bitcoins you have, bro.
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_00: Well, well.
• 1:25:22
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's kind of funny.
• 1:25:23
  SPEAKER_03: Like I bought all that Bitcoin and now I'm like back against the wall.
• 1:25:27
  SPEAKER_03: Like I have this chunk of change that I just need to start growing now
• 1:25:31
  SPEAKER_03: because I just went balls to the wall buying Bitcoin.
• 1:25:35
  SPEAKER_03: That shit better work out.
• 1:25:36
  SPEAKER_03: That shit better work out.
• 1:25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Cisco, but this is what I was worried about.
• 1:25:42
  SPEAKER_00: I have made over 550 pieces of content.
• 1:25:46
  SPEAKER_00: All these vibe sessions.
• 1:25:48
  SPEAKER_00: That doesn't count the vibe sessions.
• 1:25:50
  SPEAKER_00: So if somebody as AI keeps getting better and more and more scams come
• 1:25:55
  SPEAKER_00: and more impersonation and what is real,
• 1:25:57
  SPEAKER_00: what is not, there's all this info on me bro.
• 1:26:01
  SPEAKER_00: Videos, my voice, how the way I think.
• 1:26:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm really scared that it gets so advanced and
• 1:26:08
  SPEAKER_00: then they can literally use my likeness and everything to fool people or
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_00: to steal my bank accounts You know,
• 1:26:17
  SPEAKER_00: or fool my brother,
• 1:26:19
  SPEAKER_00: make believe like,
• 1:26:20
  SPEAKER_00: you know, like on video, because now there's so much information on me.
• 1:26:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:26:25
  SPEAKER_00: Is that a concern?
• 1:26:26
  SPEAKER_03: Should I be concerned?
• 1:26:28
  SPEAKER_03: They're probably going to have platforms
• 1:26:30
  SPEAKER_03: where you can like copyright your fucking 3D human body.
• 1:26:36
  SPEAKER_03: And then maybe platforms are like,
• 1:26:38
  SPEAKER_03: hey, we won't let people deep fake you, you know, type of thing.
• 1:26:43
  SPEAKER_03: Damn.
• 1:26:44
  SPEAKER_03: That's interesting.
• 1:26:45
  SPEAKER_03: It would have to get to that point where AI is looking out for someone
• 1:26:50
  SPEAKER_03: who shouldn't be in that video.
• 1:26:51
  SPEAKER_03: And then do they have a license to use the Vibe Samurai?
• 1:26:55
  SPEAKER_03: They have to pay $500 to use it.
• 1:26:59
  SPEAKER_03: Or $10K to be in a movie.
• 1:27:01
  SPEAKER_03: You just start licensing your likeness.
• 1:27:04
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 1:27:05
  SPEAKER_00: Let's read this comment.
• 1:27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Lisa says, yo, I do voice acting and they've asked me to be a voice for AI.
• 1:27:12
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 1:27:14
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn, son.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:27:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know Chris Williamson?
• 1:27:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know Chris Williamson from Modern Wisdom?
• 1:27:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, podcast, yeah.
• 1:27:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:27:23
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, his voice was on Eleven Labs, bro.
• 1:27:27
  SPEAKER_00: It was the British, the main British voice for Eleven Labs.
• 1:27:32
  SPEAKER_00: And he had a whole podcast episode about it.
• 1:27:35
  SPEAKER_00: And all of a sudden,
• 1:27:36
  SPEAKER_00: his friends were sending him clips of videos where it was his voice
• 1:27:40
  SPEAKER_00: from Eleven Labs, but it's him.
• 1:27:43
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, that's not me.
• 1:27:45
  SPEAKER_00: And he like freaked him out because his voice started appearing in all kinds of shit.
• 1:27:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then he wanted to sue them and blah, blah, blah.
• 1:27:51
  SPEAKER_00: And Eleven Labs says, no, it's not your voice.
• 1:27:53
  SPEAKER_00: We have the test to prove it's not your voice.
• 1:27:55
  SPEAKER_00: But then later they took it down.
• 1:27:57
  SPEAKER_00: So obviously there's some fishy shit going on.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_00: But like that is crazy, bro.
• 1:28:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I'm worried about.
• 1:28:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:28:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm not a big star or anything, but there's enough like data on me.
• 1:28:10
  SPEAKER_00: That they can really fake me, right?
• 1:28:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know what they would do.
• 1:28:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:28:15
  SPEAKER_03: You're cooked, but I'm cooked with you, bro.
• 1:28:17
  SPEAKER_03: So we're in this together.
• 1:28:19
  SPEAKER_03: They'll deep fake both of us, man.
• 1:28:21
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't do it.
• 1:28:22
  SPEAKER_03: Shaggy.
• 1:28:23
  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't me.
• 1:28:24
  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't me.
• 1:28:26
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't me, bro.
• 1:28:28
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, where's everybody from?
• 1:28:29
  SPEAKER_00: Tell us.
• 1:28:30
  SPEAKER_00: Let's interact with our audience, bro.
• 1:28:35
  SPEAKER_03: There's so many little comments.
• 1:28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see here.
• 1:28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Are there?
• 1:28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Where are you guys from?
• 1:28:41
  SPEAKER_00: Tell us cities.
• 1:28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love British accent.
• 1:28:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's the only accent I cannot do.
• 1:28:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, me either.
• 1:28:49
  SPEAKER_03: Do not send away.
• 1:28:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, shit.
• 1:28:51
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody's worried about AI.
• 1:28:53
  SPEAKER_03: Portland, Oregon.
• 1:28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Toronto, Canada.
• 1:28:56
  SPEAKER_03: Goddamn.
• 1:28:57
  SPEAKER_00: New York.
• 1:28:58
  SPEAKER_00: How's New York?
• 1:28:59
  SPEAKER_03: Florida.
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn.
• 1:29:01
  SPEAKER_00: Everywhere in the U.S. Cincinnati.
• 1:29:03
  SPEAKER_00: Americans.
• 1:29:04
  SPEAKER_00: So many Americans.
• 1:29:05
  SPEAKER_00: Jamaica.
• 1:29:06
  SPEAKER_00: English, but live in L.A.
• 1:29:08
  SPEAKER_00: What about Jamaican accent, bro?
• 1:29:10
  SPEAKER_00: We got Floresta Bruno.
• 1:29:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, shit.
• 1:29:12
  SPEAKER_00: His name is Floresta Bruno, bro.
• 1:29:15
  SPEAKER_00: San Fran, Florida.
• 1:29:17
  SPEAKER_00: San Florida.
• 1:29:19
  SPEAKER_00: United Kingdom.
• 1:29:21
  SPEAKER_00: Come on, Americans.
• 1:29:22
  SPEAKER_00: Come on up.
• 1:29:22
  SPEAKER_03: Is anyone going to pull up and say hello?
• 1:29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, he's from Australia.
• 1:29:28
  SPEAKER_00: He's a firefighter and inventor.
• 1:29:30
  SPEAKER_00: Kane, come on up.
• 1:29:31
  SPEAKER_00: Tell us what you invented, bro.
• 1:29:33
  SPEAKER_00: Did you invent like a, like a fire flamethrower?
• 1:29:37
  SPEAKER_00: I want to hear it.
• 1:29:38
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 1:29:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just making sure.
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_00: Belgium, but leave it, but living in pure
• 1:30:02
  SPEAKER_03: I can't pronounce that.
• 1:30:03
  SPEAKER_03: Brazil.
• 1:30:04
  SPEAKER_03: San Jose.
• 1:30:05
  SPEAKER_03: Hello.
• 1:30:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my God.
• 1:30:08
  SPEAKER_03: Portugal.
• 1:30:09
  SPEAKER_03: I'm Portuguese.
• 1:30:11
  SPEAKER_03: Are you mainland?
• 1:30:11
  SPEAKER_03: Are you Azores?
• 1:30:12
  SPEAKER_03: Let me know.
• 1:30:14
  SPEAKER_00: Mainland Azores?
• 1:30:16
  SPEAKER_03: Brazil.
• 1:30:17
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of Brazilians, bro.
• 1:30:19
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn.
• 1:30:20
  SPEAKER_00: Kane is working on the Australian guy.
• 1:30:22
  SPEAKER_00: He's working on Wings for People, bro.
• 1:30:24
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn.
• 1:30:24
  SPEAKER_00: Sam, what world are we living in, bro?
• 1:30:27
  SPEAKER_00: We're building wings for people, bro.
• 1:30:31
  SPEAKER_00: We got AI and we got wings and shit.
• 1:30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, shit.
• 1:30:34
  SPEAKER_00: What's up, Tony from San Jose, California?
• 1:30:37
  SPEAKER_00: Let's all meet up in California.
• 1:30:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to be there doing Thanksgiving, guys.
• 1:30:41
  SPEAKER_00: Let's do a meetup.
• 1:30:43
  SPEAKER_00: Let's do some shit.
• 1:30:44
  SPEAKER_00: Let's get some drinks.
• 1:30:45
  SPEAKER_00: Let's party.
• 1:30:48
  SPEAKER_00: Let's party, party.
• 1:30:50
  SPEAKER_03: Madeira.
• 1:30:52
  SPEAKER_03: That's amazing.
• 1:30:54
  SPEAKER_03: We got some Portuguese folk.
• 1:30:56
  SPEAKER_03: I gotta learn Portuguese.
• 1:30:57
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so lazy.
• 1:30:57
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, Kane is coming up, bro.
• 1:30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Kane is coming up.
• 1:31:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, goddamn, we got a new visitor here.
• 1:31:04
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn, Kane.
• 1:31:06
  SPEAKER_00: Hey,
• 1:31:07
  SPEAKER_01: what's good?
• 1:31:08
  SPEAKER_00: What's going on, brother?
• 1:31:09
  SPEAKER_00: How are we doing?
• 1:31:11
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm originally Canadian, but I live in Sydney.
• 1:31:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, nice.
• 1:31:16
  SPEAKER_00: So you're the inventor guy?
• 1:31:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's me.
• 1:31:20
  SPEAKER_00: So you're making us human wings.
• 1:31:23
  SPEAKER_00: Tell us about it.
• 1:31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're one of my projects.
• 1:31:27
  SPEAKER_01: I've got a lot going on right now.
• 1:31:30
  SPEAKER_01: So Wings for People is one of them.
• 1:31:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm also Spider-Man.
• 1:31:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's another one that I'm working on.
• 1:31:38
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, a lot of things to look forward to.
• 1:31:42
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, the webs?
• 1:31:42
  SPEAKER_00: How would the web thing work, though?
• 1:31:45
  SPEAKER_01: It won't be webs.
• 1:31:46
  SPEAKER_01: It'll be ropes.
• 1:31:48
  SPEAKER_01: And it'll be an exoskeleton system.
• 1:31:50
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it's...
• 1:31:52
  SPEAKER_01: I can't give too many details with the patents.
• 1:31:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'll get in trouble.
• 1:31:55
  SPEAKER_03: What got you into making shit like this in the first place?
• 1:31:58
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm curious about.
• 1:32:00
  SPEAKER_01: I, uh, well,
• 1:32:01
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't let myself for a long time and I just,
• 1:32:05
  SPEAKER_01: I spent a long time just as a fiery working, uh, Working there.
• 1:32:10
  SPEAKER_01: And then eventually I kind of started letting myself come up with stuff.
• 1:32:14
  SPEAKER_01: And now I can't stop.
• 1:32:17
  SPEAKER_01: I just keep on coming up with different things and all sorts of fields like medical,
• 1:32:23
  SPEAKER_01: rescue equipment, aviation.
• 1:32:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm doing, yeah, it's a big variety.
• 1:32:27
  SPEAKER_01: Goddamn.
• 1:32:28
  SPEAKER_01: Are you ADHD, bro?
• 1:32:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, hell yeah.
• 1:32:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:32:31
  SPEAKER_00: Super ADHD.
• 1:32:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:32:35
  SPEAKER_00: In the house, bro.
• 1:32:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:32:39
  SPEAKER_00: I got so many followers.
• 1:32:42
  SPEAKER_00: Dr. Nicole was ADHD, Cisco.
• 1:32:47
  SPEAKER_01: To Yami's question, I have a 3D printer too.
• 1:32:51
  SPEAKER_01: I do cosplay stuff, so I like making armor and stuff and weapons as well.
• 1:32:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's a good time, so that's what I recommend.
• 1:32:59
  SPEAKER_01: Do you do it from video games or movies or...
• 1:33:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, games and stuff.
• 1:33:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, anime too.
• 1:33:05
  SPEAKER_01: I love anime.
• 1:33:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right now I'm working on the Skull Helmet from Berserk.
• 1:33:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's my current project.
• 1:33:12
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, there's too many things, you
• 1:33:14
  SPEAKER_01: know, like it's so fun.
• 1:33:17
  SPEAKER_00: So how are you prioritizing, bro?
• 1:33:20
  SPEAKER_00: So you got to have like a prioritization system, bro.
• 1:33:23
  SPEAKER_00: ADHD, you need some system, bro.
• 1:33:25
  SPEAKER_00: So what's on the top, dude?
• 1:33:28
  SPEAKER_01: So number one right now I'm working on,
• 1:33:31
  SPEAKER_01: the wings are the main thing I'm prioritizing to get out there.
• 1:33:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm hoping that the patents for them will kind of fund the rest of
• 1:33:41
  SPEAKER_01: the projects is the main goal.
• 1:33:44
  SPEAKER_01: But I've also got an app I'm about to release that's essentially meant
• 1:33:48
  SPEAKER_01: to teach you how to lucid dream.
• 1:33:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I've got tons of different pretty wild things going on.
• 1:33:55
  SPEAKER_00: We got an intellectual omnivore in the house.
• 1:34:02
  SPEAKER_00: What do you got, bro?
• 1:34:03
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, before you start, I want to know about the wings.
• 1:34:07
  SPEAKER_00: How does the wings work, bro?
• 1:34:09
  SPEAKER_00: How does it actually work?
• 1:34:11
  SPEAKER_01: They won't flap like normal wings.
• 1:34:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just a fiery man.
• 1:34:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't go to university.
• 1:34:19
  SPEAKER_01: They won't flap like normal wings.
• 1:34:21
  SPEAKER_01: I actually can't give any details on how they'll flap because my patent attorney will kill me.
• 1:34:29
  SPEAKER_01: No, but what I'm saying is like, they'll be hydrogen fuels and you'll be able to fly.
• 1:34:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they'll attach the exoskeleton for the Spider-Man system, essentially.
• 1:34:41
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn, you're a flying Spider-Man?
• 1:34:42
  SPEAKER_00: What is SpaceX with that shit?
• 1:34:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dude, SpaceX.
• 1:34:45
  SPEAKER_00: Have you talked to Elon, bro?
• 1:34:47
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't.
• 1:34:48
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm like, I'm a pacifist.
• 1:34:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm trying to work with some, you know, caring people.
• 1:34:57
  SPEAKER_01: Not to say Elon isn't, you know, he's doing a lot of good things for the world.
• 1:35:00
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm like trying to work with the renewability industries and people
• 1:35:05
  SPEAKER_01: that are kind of have similar goals, you know?
• 1:35:08
  SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about?
• 1:35:08
  SPEAKER_00: Renewable with Tesla's renewable, SpaceX's renewable with the renewable rockets?
• 1:35:13
  SPEAKER_01: They've got a lot going on, man.
• 1:35:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they've got a lot going on.
• 1:35:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've got a lot of goals, you know?
• 1:35:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:35:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's amazing.
• 1:35:26
  SPEAKER_03: Are you listening to the convo tonight?
• 1:35:29
  SPEAKER_03: Did you like what you were hearing?
• 1:35:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've been in here for a little bit listening to you guys talk,
• 1:35:35
  SPEAKER_01: you know, some important stuff on relationships.
• 1:35:39
  SPEAKER_01: As a bachelor, you know, I'm trying to get the wisdom while I can.
• 1:35:43
  SPEAKER_01: See, Bruna?
• 1:35:44
  SPEAKER_03: Come on.
• 1:35:45
  SPEAKER_01: The young men are listening.
• 1:35:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:35:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm hoping the wings will be global to the person asking in chat.
• 1:35:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I think there will be spider people all around the world.
• 1:35:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:35:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I probably won't even be the first one.
• 1:36:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying my best to kind of help get the technology rolling,
• 1:36:05
  SPEAKER_01: but I'd say there will probably be other people that get there before me.
• 1:36:08
  SPEAKER_01: But, yeah.
• 1:36:09
  SPEAKER_01: Why?
• 1:36:10
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean other people will get there before you?
• 1:36:13
  SPEAKER_01: I think there's probably a lot of people working on Spider-Man tech right now.
• 1:36:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's my guess.
• 1:36:19
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't really met anybody else, but, like, chances are I probably won't be the first.
• 1:36:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I've accepted that.
• 1:36:24
  SPEAKER_01: But as long as I can swing, you know, like, I don't really mind.
• 1:36:30
  SPEAKER_01: Wow!
• 1:36:30
  SPEAKER_00: As long as he can swing, baby!
• 1:36:33
  SPEAKER_00: Hell, he is.
• 1:36:34
  SPEAKER_00: He gets at the bat and he can swing, bro.
• 1:36:37
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn.
• 1:36:37
  SPEAKER_00: Who's this guy, bro?
• 1:36:40
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, did you discover us like now on the live or how do you know us?
• 1:36:45
  SPEAKER_01: No, I've been following you for a while.
• 1:36:47
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah,
• 1:36:50
  SPEAKER_01: I've just started learning about Tibetan Buddhism and a lot of different and Zen and
• 1:36:55
  SPEAKER_01: a lot of that sort of meditation stuff.
• 1:36:57
  SPEAKER_01: So you've been kind of seeing some of your stuff pop up and I've been I was actually
• 1:37:02
  SPEAKER_01: at one of your lives a few weeks ago as well.
• 1:37:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
• 1:37:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it's pretty good.
• 1:37:08
  SPEAKER_00: Which one?
• 1:37:08
  SPEAKER_00: Which one were you over there?
• 1:37:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I follow.
• 1:37:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's the guy that is releasing that book soon.
• 1:37:16
  SPEAKER_01: I follow him now.
• 1:37:18
  SPEAKER_01: Benoit?
• 1:37:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 1:37:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:37:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:37:21
  SPEAKER_01: I think it is him.
• 1:37:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:37:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:37:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:37:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:37:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:37:25
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it's been good.
• 1:37:27
  SPEAKER_01: You're a very good source of wisdom, man.
• 1:37:29
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it's been really awesome kind of learning from you.
• 1:37:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:37:35
  SPEAKER_00: Amazing, bro.
• 1:37:36
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, what do you think of AI?
• 1:37:38
  SPEAKER_00: So you're a Gen Z or what?
• 1:37:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm 22.
• 1:37:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I use AI quite a bit.
• 1:37:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it can be really dangerous.
• 1:37:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it has the capacity for a lot of harm in the world.
• 1:37:57
  SPEAKER_01: But also, I think that there are a lot of people that are trying to use it for good.
• 1:38:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I think it'll be a big part of the cure for cancer, hopefully.
• 1:38:07
  SPEAKER_01: And it's been a big part of my development of a lot of really important rescue
• 1:38:13
  SPEAKER_01: and medical tech that I plan to hopefully spread through the world.
• 1:38:18
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it's a lot to look forward to, you know?
• 1:38:23
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, because you know, like today, tell me how you feel about this.
• 1:38:26
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about this, Cisco, because you messaged me too, Cisco.
• 1:38:30
  SPEAKER_00: So check it out.
• 1:38:33
  SPEAKER_00: So for these promos, for these vibe sessions, I do these promo posters for my stories.
• 1:38:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I just use AI and I love it.
• 1:38:40
  SPEAKER_00: I love the, you know, like a lot of people have problems with the actual output, but I love it.
• 1:38:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh damn, I did this with AI, right?
• 1:38:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm like having fun and I'm proud of like how I think about how I'm prompting.
• 1:38:53
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, I want this for this guest.
• 1:38:54
  SPEAKER_00: I want that for this guest.
• 1:38:56
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so I do that every time I,
• 1:38:58
  SPEAKER_00: and then I also post as a post,
• 1:39:00
  SPEAKER_00: not just as a story,
• 1:39:01
  SPEAKER_00: but then when I post as a post,
• 1:39:02
  SPEAKER_00: I get like these,
• 1:39:04
  SPEAKER_00: Flooded with comments from people saying, oh, man, I'm so disappointed.
• 1:39:08
  SPEAKER_00: I thought you were a leader.
• 1:39:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, man, it goes totally against your teachings.
• 1:39:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what am I teaching?
• 1:39:14
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean against my teachings?
• 1:39:17
  SPEAKER_00: AI slop.
• 1:39:18
  SPEAKER_00: And what do you think is going on there, bro?
• 1:39:20
  SPEAKER_00: What is that?
• 1:39:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I have thought about this a lot.
• 1:39:25
  SPEAKER_01: And there's a lot of people that have been almost like people are scared of change, obviously.
• 1:39:31
  SPEAKER_01: Firstly, that's like a baseline thing we all know.
• 1:39:35
  SPEAKER_01: So there's a lot of people,
• 1:39:36
  SPEAKER_01: especially that use Instagram, which is an AI algorithm in the first place, firstly.
• 1:39:43
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of people that use Instagram kind of get into this funnel
• 1:39:47
  SPEAKER_01: of like all these negative things that are coming out of AI.
• 1:39:51
  SPEAKER_01: And don't get me wrong, there is a shit ton of really bad stuff.
• 1:39:54
  SPEAKER_01: I can't defend the water usage.
• 1:39:56
  SPEAKER_01: I can't defend, you know, there's a lot of people using it in a lot of really negative ways.
• 1:40:02
  SPEAKER_01: But there's also, you know, some people, I think, take it a little bit too far.
• 1:40:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it does have a lot of good to produce in the world, you know?
• 1:40:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't think, like,
• 1:40:15
  SPEAKER_01: you making an AI ad for this is,
• 1:40:19
  SPEAKER_01: like, there are people using it to scam elderly people, you know?
• 1:40:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, surely,
• 1:40:24
  SPEAKER_01: if you're going to be mad at anyone,
• 1:40:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think making a post like that is really a problem, to be honest.
• 1:40:31
  SPEAKER_03: Hmm.
• 1:40:32
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 1:40:35
  SPEAKER_03: What was that, Cisco?
• 1:40:37
  SPEAKER_03: A double-edged sword, you know.
• 1:40:39
  SPEAKER_03: But what did
• 1:40:39
  SPEAKER_00: you think?
• 1:40:41
  SPEAKER_00: Cisco, what did you think when you sent me that message?
• 1:40:43
  SPEAKER_00: You were, like, surprised, too, right?
• 1:40:44
  SPEAKER_00: You're like, oh, goddamn.
• 1:40:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was like, like, I can't, I don't know.
• 1:40:50
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like Instagram maybe has more, maybe, left or, like, what I would consider normie.
• 1:40:55
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I'm on Excelot,
• 1:40:57
  SPEAKER_03: so I'm specifically looking for AI information and, like, latest, greatest.
• 1:41:01
  SPEAKER_03: And People are positive about it.
• 1:41:03
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm kind of flabbergasted when I hear people are anti.
• 1:41:08
  SPEAKER_03: But I guess it's this whole idea like supporting real artists and things.
• 1:41:18
  SPEAKER_03: 100%.
• 1:41:18
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome in.
• 1:41:19
  SPEAKER_03: How are you doing?
• 1:41:22
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, bro.
• 1:41:22
  SPEAKER_03: I wanted to talk about AI because I have like a personal opinion about this.
• 1:41:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, of course.
• 1:41:28
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
• 1:41:30
  SPEAKER_03: I honestly just want to say, like, I love your videos, Five Samurai.
• 1:41:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I watch them every day.
• 1:41:35
  SPEAKER_03: It's crazy to be talking to you right now.
• 1:41:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's wild, hey?
• 1:41:39
  SPEAKER_03: But, no, because there's so much, I want to say, like, bad idea of what AI is.
• 1:41:48
  SPEAKER_03: And more or less, like, people think it's going to be the end of civilization as a whole.
• 1:41:53
  SPEAKER_03: But the problem with that is it takes so much power to do that.
• 1:41:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's nearly impossible.
• 1:41:59
  SPEAKER_03: Like the amount of power it takes right now to do what it does is like more
• 1:42:02
  SPEAKER_03: than we've computed over the last 10 years, you know.
• 1:42:06
  SPEAKER_03: To do what people are saying, it takes infinitely more, you know.
• 1:42:12
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm just saying like this Doom idea of it is kind of almost impossible.
• 1:42:19
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm just saying like.
• 1:42:21
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, but like your friends though, like,
• 1:42:23
  SPEAKER_00: so you seem like a lot more open and kind of like nuance about it,
• 1:42:28
  SPEAKER_00: but what about your friends, bro?
• 1:42:29
  SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like the younger guys,
• 1:42:31
  SPEAKER_00: if I look at my comments and I click on their photos,
• 1:42:34
  SPEAKER_00: it's guys like you and all three of you actually.
• 1:42:39
  SPEAKER_00: But sometimes longer hair and shit, right?
• 1:42:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's like very, I don't know.
• 1:42:44
  SPEAKER_03: It is generally There's definitely a negative nuance about it for sure like especially
• 1:42:50
  SPEAKER_03: with people my age they're like
• 1:42:51
  SPEAKER_03: the water usage I mean heads up I mean I just think every single website
• 1:42:56
  SPEAKER_03: that you use big website like Google and whatnot that uses water more than
• 1:43:01
  SPEAKER_03: and I mean you ever ate ground beef that takes ten times more water
• 1:43:04
  SPEAKER_03: than any fucking AI you can imagine.
• 1:43:08
  SPEAKER_01: My biggest concern there, it's less about the water usage, more about the AI psychosis.
• 1:43:15
  SPEAKER_01: So people that are quite vulnerable can go into a lot of negative thought loops and
• 1:43:21
  SPEAKER_01: a lot of,
• 1:43:22
  SPEAKER_01: there have been quite a few cases of people killing people from it,
• 1:43:26
  SPEAKER_01: like a lot of that.
• 1:43:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then also the cybersecurity side of things.
• 1:43:29
  SPEAKER_01: So the banking side's There's a lot of risk to our current online banking systems,
• 1:43:38
  SPEAKER_01: all that sort of stuff that I think AI does pose a pretty major threat to.
• 1:43:44
  SPEAKER_01: But obviously, we can only keep trying our best, you know, like that's what it comes down to.
• 1:43:50
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta look at the cost benefit, right?
• 1:43:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like everything is that, right?
• 1:43:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like flying planes, cars, everything.
• 1:43:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 1:43:57
  SPEAKER_00: for example,
• 1:43:58
  SPEAKER_00: like in the US,
• 1:43:59
  SPEAKER_00: did you guys know every year 45,000 people die because of car accidents?
• 1:44:12
  SPEAKER_00: 45,000 people die.
• 1:44:14
  SPEAKER_00: That does not even include people who are maimed, handicapped, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:44:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's probably in the million per year, right?
• 1:44:21
  SPEAKER_00: But like 50,000 people die.
• 1:44:24
  SPEAKER_00: And you know how we can reduce those deaths?
• 1:44:26
  SPEAKER_02: Self-driving cars.
• 1:44:28
  SPEAKER_00: Or self-driving cars or just reduce the speed limit to 10 miles per hour.
• 1:44:34
  SPEAKER_00: Self-driving cars
• 1:44:35
  SPEAKER_01: have issues.
• 1:44:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's the mass surveillance that comes with them.
• 1:44:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:44:43
  SPEAKER_01: We don't need mass surveillance either.
• 1:44:45
  SPEAKER_01: I personally am an advocate of not going down that path for society,
• 1:44:52
  SPEAKER_01: but it's so difficult with self-driving cars in particular and the amount of drones
• 1:44:56
  SPEAKER_01: that will be coming into the cities in the future.
• 1:45:01
  SPEAKER_01: So it's complicated.
• 1:45:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's a given because we have
• 1:45:05
  SPEAKER_00: our iPhones and shit.
• 1:45:07
  SPEAKER_00: They're tracking us, bro.
• 1:45:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's unavoidable.
• 1:45:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's unavoidable at this point.
• 1:45:12
  SPEAKER_03: We're moving towards that point.
• 1:45:13
  SPEAKER_03: And if we were to ever try to reverse what we've already done, I mean,
• 1:45:19
  SPEAKER_03: I would just say like if you look at the statistics with self-driving cars,
• 1:45:23
  SPEAKER_03: like it's like nine to one, like how many people die in regular cars?
• 1:45:27
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's always going to be people that are like, I'm going to drive my car.
• 1:45:30
  SPEAKER_03: You know, that's like a given.
• 1:45:31
  SPEAKER_03: People are going to be like that no matter what.
• 1:45:33
  SPEAKER_03: But self-driving cars that like if we gave everyone self-driving cars,
• 1:45:36
  SPEAKER_03: that death total goes to like maybe 500.
• 1:45:39
  SPEAKER_03: Then you're saving 45,000, you know, 45,000 people at least.
• 1:45:45
  SPEAKER_03: And that's like,
• 1:45:46
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 1:45:46
  SPEAKER_01: but at the same time,
• 1:45:47
  SPEAKER_03: like you said,
• 1:45:48
  SPEAKER_03: people are gonna be very effective towards like,
• 1:45:52
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna drive my car and no one can tell me otherwise,
• 1:45:54
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 1:45:54
  SPEAKER_03: and that's
• 1:45:55
  SPEAKER_01: just like- But let's talk about that concept of
• 1:45:58
  SPEAKER_01: the self-driving car thing.
• 1:46:01
  SPEAKER_01: If you think about it, once,
• 1:46:04
  SPEAKER_01: if we ever do get to a point where everybody's driving a self-driving car,
• 1:46:08
  SPEAKER_01: You got to think that we need highways to accommodate for the amount
• 1:46:12
  SPEAKER_01: of population that'll be occurring at that point.
• 1:46:17
  SPEAKER_01: So it's more a question of,
• 1:46:19
  SPEAKER_01: are we even going to have the infrastructure that can handle that population?
• 1:46:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because I know,
• 1:46:23
  SPEAKER_01: at least in Canada and DC,
• 1:46:26
  SPEAKER_01: which I was just visiting,
• 1:46:29
  SPEAKER_01: they don't have that infrastructure to accommodate the growing populations.
• 1:46:34
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:46:34
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, would you say that there would be more cars, like, rather than what is right now?
• 1:46:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like, if we were to have self-driving cars, that would just flip-flop the two, in a way?
• 1:46:45
  SPEAKER_01: I think, to be honest, the answer is more focusing on public transport.
• 1:46:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's my personal perspective on it.
• 1:46:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:46:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, trains, wings is another better option.
• 1:46:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the skies are pretty open right now.
• 1:47:01
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, it's going to be a very different traffic system when all of that's implemented.
• 1:47:07
  SPEAKER_01: But we really...
• 1:47:10
  SPEAKER_01: He's really selling his
• 1:47:11
  SPEAKER_00: wings, bro.
• 1:47:12
  SPEAKER_00: He's selling his wings, bro.
• 1:47:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's not the car.
• 1:47:15
  SPEAKER_00: To be honest, the...
• 1:47:17
  SPEAKER_01: Long term, I plan on starting a city in the air.
• 1:47:22
  SPEAKER_00: God, that's the future right here.
• 1:47:28
  SPEAKER_03: If you proposed cars to someone that only knew horses, they'd be like, yo, this guy's an idiot.
• 1:47:34
  SPEAKER_03: But what you're saying makes sense.
• 1:47:36
  SPEAKER_03: It's an open area.
• 1:47:37
  SPEAKER_01: No one's really in the skies except for a fucking airplane.
• 1:47:42
  SPEAKER_01: It'll be a pacifist air city.
• 1:47:44
  SPEAKER_01: So it won't just be... That's the goal, at least.
• 1:47:47
  SPEAKER_01: And then, yeah.
• 1:47:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm starting out with air hospitals and then kind of moving up from there.
• 1:47:53
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
• 1:47:54
  SPEAKER_01: Lots of things to look forward to for you.
• 1:47:57
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just trying to imagine some fucking buildings in the sky and I'm like, you know...
• 1:48:04
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, where do they set their foundation, you know?
• 1:48:06
  SPEAKER_01: I've thought it through pretty far.
• 1:48:08
  SPEAKER_01: So it'll be hydrogen based.
• 1:48:12
  SPEAKER_01: So it'll be like almost kind of like blimp style.
• 1:48:15
  SPEAKER_01: And then also the lights on the underside of the city,
• 1:48:21
  SPEAKER_01: depending on where you are, will be lit differently.
• 1:48:25
  SPEAKER_01: Because if we have lights on the underside of the city,
• 1:48:28
  SPEAKER_01: it'll negatively affect baby turtles from being able to get to the sea.
• 1:48:34
  SPEAKER_01: So whenever we're over a baby turtle area,
• 1:48:37
  SPEAKER_01: the lights on the underside of the city will become amber.
• 1:48:40
  SPEAKER_00: I love the new generation.
• 1:48:42
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are thinking merging tech and the environment, bro.
• 1:48:45
  SPEAKER_00: The tech and the environment can coexist.
• 1:48:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they need to, you know?
• 1:48:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they need to.
• 1:48:52
  SPEAKER_03: I love that.
• 1:48:52
  SPEAKER_03: That's actually awesome.
• 1:48:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I would have never thought of that shit.
• 1:48:56
  SPEAKER_01: And everybody in the city will see the amber light in the bottom,
• 1:49:00
  SPEAKER_01: and they'll know that the baby turtles are making their way to the ocean,
• 1:49:04
  SPEAKER_01: and we'll all be cheering for them, you know?
• 1:49:06
  SPEAKER_01: Goddamn!
• 1:49:06
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't that sick?
• 1:49:08
  SPEAKER_00: That is sick, bro.
• 1:49:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we got to cheer for those little fuckers.
• 1:49:12
  SPEAKER_03: Guys, guys,
• 1:49:14
  SPEAKER_00: go ahead.
• 1:49:15
  SPEAKER_00: Sam Allman, what?
• 1:49:16
  SPEAKER_03: No, I said Sam Allman, hit this guy up.
• 1:49:18
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:49:20
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think of Sam Altman, bro?
• 1:49:23
  SPEAKER_00: You want to be hit up by Sam Altman?
• 1:49:26
  SPEAKER_01: Chat, chat, GBT.
• 1:49:29
  SPEAKER_01: So there's the whole autonomous killing and mass surveillance thing
• 1:49:34
  SPEAKER_01: that you guys might have seen in the AI debate.
• 1:49:39
  SPEAKER_01: If Sam Altman wanted to work with me,
• 1:49:41
  SPEAKER_01: like who knows in the future,
• 1:49:43
  SPEAKER_01: but I just, I, I very, I'm very passionate about pacifism.
• 1:49:47
  SPEAKER_01: So that's like a really important thing for,
• 1:49:50
  SPEAKER_01: The direction my technology goes and where I want to go in the future.
• 1:49:55
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn, you guys are giving me such hope, guys.
• 1:49:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm up, I'm 51 years old.
• 1:50:00
  SPEAKER_00: Look at the three of you guys.
• 1:50:01
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are rational.
• 1:50:03
  SPEAKER_00: You're being open.
• 1:50:04
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are having good conversations.
• 1:50:06
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are thinking big, bro.
• 1:50:08
  SPEAKER_00: You're thinking out of the box.
• 1:50:09
  SPEAKER_00: You're talking about wings.
• 1:50:10
  SPEAKER_00: You're talking about cities in the sky, guys.
• 1:50:13
  SPEAKER_00: Come on, let's take over the government and change this world, guys.
• 1:50:17
  SPEAKER_00: We got to be serious.
• 1:50:18
  SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
• 1:50:19
  SPEAKER_00: Let's wake up.
• 1:50:20
  SPEAKER_00: Let's wake up and fucking change the world through the culture.
• 1:50:24
  SPEAKER_00: Samurai, you're almost old enough to be president.
• 1:50:26
  SPEAKER_00: Can we elect you?
• 1:50:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, bro.
• 1:50:28
  SPEAKER_01: You could be the leader, man.
• 1:50:31
  SPEAKER_00: You got the brain.
• 1:50:33
  SPEAKER_00: You got the brain, man.
• 1:50:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yo, you got my vote, dog.
• 1:50:35
  SPEAKER_00: You got my vote.
• 1:50:36
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, fuck that vote, bro.
• 1:50:39
  SPEAKER_00: I want one of you guys.
• 1:50:41
  SPEAKER_00: I want you guys.
• 1:50:42
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, let's think out of the box.
• 1:50:44
  SPEAKER_00: Why do we need a fucking old 51-year-old, bro?
• 1:50:46
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's the problem.
• 1:50:47
  SPEAKER_00: We got too many old motherfuckers in government, bro.
• 1:50:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we need young blood.
• 1:50:54
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I agree.
• 1:50:54
  SPEAKER_03: I just, as of right now, you're the youngest old guy I know, if that makes sense.
• 1:50:59
  SPEAKER_03: No offense.
• 1:51:02
  SPEAKER_03: So, you would be great president.
• 1:51:06
  SPEAKER_02: A slightly high president would change everything.
• 1:51:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, that's a fact.
• 1:51:11
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, if Trump just had a J, man, that's all.
• 1:51:17
  SPEAKER_00: Trump doesn't even drink, bro.
• 1:51:19
  SPEAKER_00: He just eats McDonald's, bro.
• 1:51:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's all he does.
• 1:51:22
  SPEAKER_03: He eats McDonald's.
• 1:51:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's crazy.
• 1:51:25
  SPEAKER_03: Crazy.
• 1:51:27
  SPEAKER_03: It was really nice talking to y'all.
• 1:51:28
  SPEAKER_03: I got to go to bed, though.
• 1:51:29
  SPEAKER_00: Drew, great meeting you, bro.
• 1:51:31
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for coming up.
• 1:51:33
  SPEAKER_03: You build those wings, bro.
• 1:51:35
  SPEAKER_03: You got it.
• 1:51:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I will, bro.
• 1:51:37
  SPEAKER_01: You'll see me in the air.
• 1:51:38
  SPEAKER_01: You got it.
• 1:51:39
  SPEAKER_01: You'll see me in the
• 1:51:41
  SPEAKER_00: air, bro.
• 1:51:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'll see y'all.
• 1:51:44
  SPEAKER_00: Good night, Bryce.
• 1:51:47
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, man.
• 1:51:48
  SPEAKER_00: Goddamn.
• 1:51:49
  SPEAKER_00: Cisco, let's close this up.
• 1:51:51
  SPEAKER_00: We've done like a full 120 minutes and we got Kane.
• 1:51:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, y'all have been hustling.
• 1:51:56
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, Kane, but you coming up and finalizing us like this, that was amazing, bro.
• 1:52:02
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 1:52:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's all good, man.
• 1:52:03
  SPEAKER_01: It was lovely to talk with y'all.
• 1:52:05
  SPEAKER_00: Damn, man.
• 1:52:06
  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait.
• 1:52:07
  SPEAKER_00: But can we get like the...
• 1:52:09
  SPEAKER_00: First promotional wings, and then I'll show it off on the channel.
• 1:52:13
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I would love to set you up, man.
• 1:52:15
  SPEAKER_01: Spider System 2, you'll be swinging around.
• 1:52:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to swing around, we'll record that shit, and we'll do a good video about that.
• 1:52:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's a matter of time, it's a matter of time.
• 1:52:27
  SPEAKER_01: Just look forward to it.
• 1:52:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, good luck with the wings and come back soon, all right, brother?
• 1:52:33
  SPEAKER_01: Appreciate it, man.
• 1:52:34
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all stay in touch.
• 1:52:35
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody, good night, guys.
• 1:52:37
  SPEAKER_00: See you next time.
• 1:52:38
  SPEAKER_00: Peace, Cisco.
• 1:52:38
  SPEAKER_00: Peace.