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You are now listening to Castle Black, the Blackest House of Dragon podcasts
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and all the realms. That's I'm Black. So this is the say of
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the Knight's Watch and welcome in and a's to the return of Castle Black,
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the Blackest Game of Throne podcast and all of the realms. Today you have
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myself, Tatiana Ki aka the Lord of Lightsabers, Princess ray Yay niece Targarian
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Missoria, the Don, Sir Chris go Cole. It was all a dreamfire
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and the ting of the North. And I am joined here by my lovely
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maister that is me, Poorstra of Pider Senters, and I am also known
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as the Master of Disguise aka the Three Eyed Ravenclaw aka Lady Mary Jane of
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High Guard. Now, yeah, and I'm so happy to be back.
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I want Sarce to know what was me. Listen, I am so happy
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to be back. Like I told you earlier, I'm really excited that we're
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back and talking Game of Thrones. You know people who are been longtime listeners
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of our podcast, specifically for Castle Black episodes that, first of all,
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thank y'all, Thank y'all so much, and I appreciate that everyone was sounding
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alarms when these trailers dropped. When every time there's some type of Game of
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Thrones news, everybody's like, where's Castle Black? Do y'all? Are y'all
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seeing this? Are y'all hearing this? We see, we here, We
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are alive. Wake up, wake up, We are back, okay,
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and we want today, we want to absolutely make sure that we talk through
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this Game of Thrones, specifically the House of Dragons or House of the Dragons
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or whatever, you know, whatever thing we're gonna call it this year because
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black people don't care it's coming back soon. Do you know the dates of
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one is actually supposed to be coming back or is it just like summer?
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I think I said June fourteenth, June, and I could be mixing that
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up. This's been so many trailer drops that I'm like, bruh, right,
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and we'll double check. You'll double check that. But what hit us
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the most June sixteenth, June sixteenth, one six Okay, uh, is
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that like a day after June fifteenth at the Juneteenth? No, Juneteenth is
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nineteen, right, nineteenth? Okay, Well, I'm just gonna say that
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this is a celebration of Juneteenth just because but we are. I'm just saying.
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Listen, the trailer came out for the upcoming season, and they did
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us as solid and not only gave us like a phenomenal trailer to like get
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us excited it, they split it into two. So they split it into
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what's considered the Green trailer and the Black trailer. The green trailer obviously represents
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the high towers and their views and their perspectives. And then you have the
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black trailer, which represents our queen. And yes, we're biased right off
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Jump Street. Are black? Come on, come on, come on,
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y'all. But yes, the black trailer represents the the you know, Team
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Black and the perspective of a narrator carrion and all of that. So we
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watched both of these trailers a few times just to make sure we had enough
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understanding and thoughts and all that stuff. And I already said one majorly biased
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comment about our queen, But I do want to give the Greens a chance,
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I guess who day. I just want to know Who's I feel like,
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I'm like, is been gonna just be contrarian just to say like he's
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like, Yo, we loved Allison Alison. Yeah, listen, we'll see,
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but I'm sure it will be comedy. But we do have to do
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this properly and give full like critical analysis, okay, to both sides of
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the story and the trailer, and then obviously we're going to get these jokes
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off and say what we need to say. But in the Green trailer,
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as mentioned, it's from the perspective of Alison at High Tower and her team's
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views that Eggon should be king and allegedly it's a lie. But allegedly Visarah's
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told her apple Care told me that my son is the rightful successor and should
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be taking the throne, and that all ver Nara and her supporters want to
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do is fuck up the realm. They don't care about peace, they do
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not want peace, They just want problems always. So where let's just start
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from there? Just just watching this trailer, Like, what did you take
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away from it? The Green trailer that Allison is full of craft, but
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her daddy is the so he's the most full of it person in this whole
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series name of High Tower. What's his face? High Tower? I don't
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care because he is so he is so irrelevant that he had to make himself
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relevant soon as his friend died. Like, hell, are you playing this
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game? You know what I mean? Like you grew up with both of
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you had all both of them growing up together, you had all this happened.
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Then he marry your freaking daughters to the king, only for her to
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have his progeny when he's five thousand years old. And as soon as that
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man looks sickly, you're already scheming and telling everybody in the realm that only
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a boy can hear it. You can get out of my face. Lord
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house stunts and shows and a sir Otto High Tower. I should have remembered
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that because I didn't get to see my other aka Mulatto High Tower. But
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yeah, like it's I understand. Here's the thing. I understand people who
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are trying to look at this objectively and like, well, that's her husband,
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Visara's that was her husband that she she's been doing what, as she
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says in the trailer, I've done nothing but be loyal to my station.
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I gave all the babies. I did what I was supposed to do.
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I did right, and and I put my family first. It's only natural
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that my son Egon is the rifle successor. And she'd be king now,
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no, no, why is that a dope? Tell me? You know
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that the like the when you saw first season that she was sitting on again
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family dinner, Remember the family dinner whenever the boys was acting up, and
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then the goodfather like, uh, what's his face? Was it? They
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have so many of the same names, sat there and was like y'all,
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like, y'all gotta get it together. We can't be playing this stuff.
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He had, we had that big mama speech like we got it, We're
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family right together, blah blah blah. Then he ran prompt he died.
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But at the time it was like, y'all know that, y'all wilin Like
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whatever this man said publicly, when which is in which he did publicly declare
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his daughter? When did he go at the air? By the way,
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when did he say that publicly? He said that he was he was on
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the throne, When when everyone was up in the throne room right and he
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was his how did he has half mask on because the boy interiorating right when
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he was on his Vega ship. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
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I remember, so he said this publicly, but she is maintaining that.
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And remember because at that point it became a game of telephone that when the
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Sarah's was was was mumbling and going on in his sleep, in his dreams,
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he was he we from the viewers know he was talking about Rhaniera,
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But no, he wasn't in his dreams, because he had told so he
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was. He was out before Ala before Alison walked into the room. Yes,
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he Raniera had been in there. She had been talking with her daddy
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and he was still conscious and cognizant. He that conversation. They were big
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conversation. He was telling her about the lore of there's this prophecy and he's
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liked, he's been having dreams the whole season about this prophecy about like Agon
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and his return and him being able to rule the realms during the Great Night,
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which is like this like prophecy about like the White Walker's basically coming back.
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So he kept he keeps having these dreams about that, and so he
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told Raynier about it because he was like, it's no time for me to
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pass on this prophecy to you to make sure you safeguard it because you're going
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to be the heir and you need to make sure that you're ready should this
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happen during your reign. Correct. So when Homegirl comes in, he's still
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mumbling and jumbling about that agon. She's like, you're talking about my eggn
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and it's like, no, stop it. You're looking for any opportunity to
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insert your son in there when you are not even trying to listen to what
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this man is saying. This is elder abuse because this man is actually talking
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about something else. You just want to insert your a gun in that part.
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And that's when it comes to things like people. And this is just
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in general in real life, like when people turn narratives to or turn people's
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comments to fit their narrative. And that's what this feels like. It's like.
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And and again the argument for the argument for Allison will be, well,
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you know, she's in a very vulnerable space. She feels she's done
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the necessary, she's a she's been a great, a generous queen, and
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her husband is just merely giving her what she's been working for all this time,
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essentially, Right, what do you say to that, like, can
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you deny Allison that right that she yes, she is, she is twisting
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it to match. But it's also like she hasn't heard anything to the contrary,
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right except for that very public this way, And I'm really glad that
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you mentioned that. So why didn't that public expression of what Visarah says?
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Why is that not counting? Because her father had been scheming and plotting ahead
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of time to displace right near it as the person who would inherit because he
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doesn't believe and he's been working with the other men of the realm right to
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say that a woman should not inherit the throne. It can only be passed
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down by the mail line. And this all could have been avoided if King
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Vissaris would have simply kept it in his pants and had not left a miner
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and had these other children. Well that didn't happen, So now what so
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now we're here, So now now also in this trailer, in the green
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trailer, you have Agon who he he's very immature to me. He's very
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immature to me. He is playing up being a mistake, like he knows
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he's a mistake, and he is playing it up. He is just like,
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yes, I am the mistake mediocre. That's me take of a century,
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Like, yeah, he's mediocre. But it's also I'm concerned because my
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thing is when you're talking about a realm like this and all the implications and
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the backstabbing this and this and that, you need someone who is that has
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that. And I'm not saying age. I'm talking about the level of maturity
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and the level of understanding and not just simply power grasping like if you Because
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to me, Eggon, I mean he even says it he don't care about
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no damn peace like Allison was talking about woman, my husband was here,
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it was peaceful in the streets. And now re aerone's war. No,
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no, no, those are technically yours in war. Who did this and
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y'all wanted this and right, thank you? And then Eggon is is to
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just just throwing fuel to the fire because he's like, well, shit,
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if they want war, let there be war. And to me, it's
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it's almost flippant like he's taking it like it's a game and it doesn't matter.
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And that's why I also mean about lack of maturity. Well that's the
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thing too, is if you remember from season one he was brought again.
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This all would have been avoided had old Man simply kept the thing in his
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pants because in a lot in the Game of the World, but it's it's
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in real life too, like apparently, but like if he's because like think
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about it, like it's about like being present as a parent, right,
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And he was a present parent to Raniera. He was not a present parent
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to any of them kids that he had with Alison. He was like so
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already starting to get sick. He was already like not actively like even paying
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no mind to them, to him whatever the flaky skin, whatever the was
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going on. Yeah, like he was not like a present parent to them.
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And so all the things that like they needed to learn, like skill
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craft or whatever they learned. If they learned it, they learned it from
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their grandfather. And he didn't think He's one of those people who wants to
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be regent. He doesn't want them to lead the stuff. He wants to
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lead it. He wants to be the one who says what's policy. He
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wants to be the one engaging with people and building coalitions or whatever. So
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that means the boys, even though they'll be like in the King's council meeting
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ers or whatever. They're just like, I'm bored, and so for fun
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for them was them like going out and doing like you know, but they
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were they were like jouting or whatever their friends with their cut with their cousins
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or whatever, or their nephews or whatever. And whenever they kept getting one
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up by these younger boys because their father they was always down there, you
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know, with their father so strong, then they had they just started getting
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arrogant about well at least time Prince or you know what I mean, like
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yeah, that game. And Aimon, like if you look at first season,
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he every episode, every scene he gets, he's not thinking in a
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way of like let me like set an example, let me like act like
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I'm like I got this or whatever, like I'm ready to take on like
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the throne if it comes to me. He's very much playing I'm just a
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wealthy child doing what I will. And also, and I blame I did
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just blame Sarah's not being a present parent, but freaking Alison is also an
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awful mother and was like cauf you remember Alison with them boys. Alison was
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as good for oh, like do do the nurses have the kids? Are
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they taking they are alive, right, and then as soon as like they
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say something crazy, she'll smack them. So what they know from her is
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like physical violence. They don't know actual care and like and she was super
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young when she had them, so she didn't you know, it's what it
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all makes. They don't have a sense of conflict resolution. They don't and
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so like it's a tension seeking it's like feeling self righteous. It's like making
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sure that they have what they feel like they want. It's nothing about like
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the good of the realm. That's not a consideration. Hmm okay. And
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like I said, I opened it up with a bias comment, but it's
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just like I even after just in terms of how I felt watching like I
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had nothing for Alison and I had nothing for that family. And obviously it's
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harder as a viewer because you literally got to see everything from the outside perspective,
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from the chorus perspective right where where you see all the pieces being moved
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and you're yelling at the screen. That's not what that nig of Vissarah said.
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But here we are, right, and that's what happens, especially like
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that happens in real life where you have that as I mentioned a game of
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telephone, where it's just like, well, this fits my narrative and it
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can't be anything else, Like there's no way, and as I'm trying to
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understand, like I get it that that friendship has been gone, but like
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there's no part of Allison. That's just like recognizing the fact that they regards
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with her father and all these other people say there's no part of Alson.
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That's just like she know, she knows what Vessarah's had been saying all this
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time. She knows what he has said when he had court, when he
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held court with people. Why would now, all of a sudden on his
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deathbed, why would he do a one to eighty. I think she's resentful.
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I think there's an underlying resentment, and I feel like that's very apparent
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that she has underlying resentment for Verniers. But I think that resentment is tied
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to the man she married, respecting his daughter more than he respected her as
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his wife. Okay, I liked it. I like what you're saying.
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I understand what you're saying. She still piss pisses me off greatly. I
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don't care about the girl, but I try to. I try to understand,
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you try to understand, so then like what are so, what are
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we What are we gonna see from them this season? Right, obviously a
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lot of treachery, like her father is at the wheel. And that's another
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thing, like for all of this bullshit, Allison insane. She's still not
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in charge and she still never will be. She still has to but she
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always she never wanted. That's the part that bugs me the most. If
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you look at her characterization, like that first season, whenever they were both
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young, she never was the grasping for power type. She wasn't a surce.
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She wasn't like I'm looking, I'm I'm gonna prove a point to all
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the men around here that a woman can be in charge. She wasn't.
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She was not that. She was always just like kind of a support person.
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And I think that also the reason she has, Like she was the
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support to Rayniera, and it was whatever her father, her father started pushing
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her, Like whenever the old Queen died and he saw her, he kept
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seeing Alison in proximity to the king, And honestly, it didn't seem like
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Raynier, I mean like Alison was trying to get close to the king initially
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because she had like ulterior motives. It seemed like she just was trying to
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be a nice person. She did feel bad for him, and she was
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like spending time around him or whatever because she just enjoyed that time spent with
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him. For a second, he was more like hospitable as a father figure
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to her than her father was, so she it was like chill. And
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her father started picked up on that and was like, we're gonna play that
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right to our advantage. You're gonna get in his bed and you're gonna be
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queen. And as soon as she because she wants love from her father,
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she's obedient to him, right, so she that overrides her friendship to Rayniera
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and then all that happens. I don't know why common sense don't override her,
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because like she's for you, for you to say, I did everything
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I was supposed to do and d and you see how they do you?
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That you sa they did you like you see how they do you? So
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why are you not trying to make a difference and do something different and and
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and show them and one up? I feel like that that shows a lack
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of and one hand, I want to say it shows a lack of strength.
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On the other hand, I you know, you also feel like there's
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other ways to go about getting what you need. So I don't know,
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I feel like if in this like especially in this world that George R.
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And Martin wrote, basically, it's very it's very very mitogynistic. It's very
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much like a patriarchy is the like one in Holy Power. Yeah, and
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to me, Allison represents all the women who are complicit with like patriarchy,
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and they're like, I just want to survive. I don't want to be
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a squeaky will. I don't want any ation paid to me that's gonna like
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take They're gonna take me out. I'm gonna just do everything they tell me
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to do so that they don't f with me, just so I make it
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out here. Now. On the other side, we have the black Trailer,
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which, as mentioned our Queen Raniera, this is her perspective of where
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she is and let's remind everybody where shit is with her. Okay, this
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nigga aimed ain't his dragon anyway, ain't Luke and Luke's hracking okay? Uh?
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In which I I this is this is what kicks to me. That's
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what kicks off the Civil War and everything else going on, like besides,
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yes, besides the game of Telephone be Wrang, But but this that,
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this is, this is a catalyst a NeXT's event. Like there's no turning
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back from there. I think at the time both sides were just like again,
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like Auto Height Tower had lined things up to him that they had enough
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firepower to hold down the Red like the Dragon kings Landing. He's like,
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I got enough foul power where it's because of the location of kings Landing.
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It's like on the west side of West Rows. Okay, yes, And
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like like High Garden and High Tower Land is like old Town. It's not
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that far down. It's like a little it's a little further down south.
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So like he's like, I know which lords support like one High Tower like
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that are sworn to my house, but also who are anti men being ousted
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as the people who were sitting on a throat, right, so I can
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use that to my advantage and all of that right near on the other hand,
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was on I'm pregnant, I'm trying to have a child. I'm beefing
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with Homegirl because there's some I see Homegirls, she's got something else to say,
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yeah, her her son got stabbed in the eye. But right,
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right, but so one niggas get stabbed in the eye every day. This
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is thrones. Whatever he did, he die, But did you die?
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Is the question? And you didn't? You are right? You got the
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staff? Are you good that that, obviously, for clear reasons, is
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unforgivable what happened. But to me that that's truly the the what got the
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ball rolling in all this craziness and in this trailer. In the Black Trailer,
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she Rynera maintains that her father wanted her to be heir of the throne.
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We saw what he said publicly, We saw what he said, even
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like he had the whole conversation. And now regards of whether Allison knew Ranera
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was in there a few moments ago, she had this whole fucking conversation.
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The King vis Sarah's did not have this conversation with a god or none of
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his fuck ass children at all. He had this conversation with Reanera. Banera
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is the fave. Ranera is the heir. So it's just it's just a
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level of cognitive dissousness, dissonance you have to have. And I'm saying this
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from Alison's perspective, to just be like, despite everything that I've seen throughout
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my childhood, you know what I'm saying. It's not like Alison came out
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of nowhere, like she's been there for decades nowaday in their twenties now or
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something like that. So for you, but just four go all of that,
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it's just completely mind blowing to me. She's doing what her father wants,
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She's being the obedient woman. And Rayniera, like, that's the thing
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about if you're a woman upholding the patriarchy, any woman who is not upholding
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the patriarchy is a threat and it is a problem. Oh my god,
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and Raynier is that problem. And I love Rayniera for just being like I'm
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gonna be that problem, like it's the right way, Like it's exactly yeah,
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Like you are upholding the patriarchy of like a man successing me. However,
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the man who was here before my day told you that I was their
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So where's the patriarchy there? Like you're not gonna listen to the man who
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told you I was the air? What's no, This is when nepotism is
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supposed to happen, Like what is going on, big o' nepton is a
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big nepotism ble, like what are we doing? Okay? And then just
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contrary to what as I had mentioned, Egan's very immature. I still I
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believe like Vanera is mature. Vanera has been mature since she was a child,
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right and to her detriment and to you know, her her success,
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but she was also raised to be she was raised to be a leader.
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She was given the tools, and that's mentioned vis Sarah's told her things that
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he would never tell his his little step children, I know, but treated
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them like the grandkids. He don't care about them like you ever see have
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you ever we talked about this and y'all y'all just joining us and never heard
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of Castle Black. We encourage you to go back to the previous episodes of
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the last season so you can really understand, like what we're talking about.
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Vissarah's a nan hangout with his own children, his other children. I should
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say, born is where it's at, Okay, And I just how obvious
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gonna be? And I don't know, but I do want to continue on
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with with what we saw in this Black trailer and also what we saw on
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the other trail too, but just the prevalence of and is this this is
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considered the dance of the dragons or this this whole Civil war situation where everyone's
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coming out on a on a tool. You know, they're bringing out the
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tools, they bringing out the hammers. It's going nuts. Okay, this
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is dance of the dragon, all right. Uh. And as much craziness
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as as as we as this man is, you also got to commend uncle
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husband Damon that Nigga is the definition of rod or died, that Nigga is
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the general, is the right hand. And when I say, I screamed
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at the screen when he was like, our terms are very simple. You
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will renounce the false king. You'll bend the knee to your queen, or
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your house will burn. That's it. I just want to talk a about
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how everyone in the Green trailer and the Black trailer. Nobody looks happy.
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Everyone looks miserable, excep even Aggon with his crummy immature I'm here holding space
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but looked miserable as he was doing it. Damon gleeful because it's like and
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that's why I and as and as problematic as Damon. And yes we know
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I gravitate to people who are definitive and decisive and and he's just like,
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no, you're gonna do this or not, like it's not a conversation.
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And that's what I'm saying, Like I feel like with the Greens, it's
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always a conversation and oh oh oh, and I like no with him,
25:42
Damon's just like, nah, nigga, you either understand who's in charge,
25:48
who's the HBI C, or you don't and you will be eliminated. And
25:52
why is that so hard to understand? And I think you was talking about
25:56
it to me right before, about having that firepower to be able to say
26:00
that, right, so, having enough dragon rioters, having enough dragons,
26:03
and also having enough supporters behind you, because I know that's a problem and
26:07
that's one of the problems from the last season that Ranera is supporting. She
26:11
has support from certain houses, but it's it feels kind of shaky, and
26:15
it's a it's a problem. I feel bad like the people I feel most
26:18
bad for because you know, let's be completely clear here, these are all
26:23
rich white folks having inbred problems right now, and that's that's it is what
26:30
it is. But the real people who are the victim are the people of
26:34
West Ros who are gonna be terrorized by these big old dragons, lasting crap
26:40
to flame, just running up and down the streets, just everything's living.
26:44
Like it's that's who's really gonna be the sufferers of this whole, Like like
26:51
Saga's IM glad you've said that, because that even in superhero movies and things,
26:56
we forget about the collateral damage, and you know, and we would
26:59
do to colladal but these are lives, right, Like I even forgot that.
27:03
I was like, damn, I forgot about the realm, and so
27:07
did the Targarians. Like right now they're having this the in house war.
27:11
There is a whole realm to govern. There are people who need resources that
27:15
y'all are about to put a fire because Homeboy would not keep his penis in
27:21
his pants after he became seventy. Like that's why we're all here, and
27:26
that is so unfortunate. And I think another on that note of like the
27:30
casualties of this. I keep one easter egg that I think I caught.
27:37
I could be wrong because the guy looked a little bit bigger than the actors
27:41
that I saw play them in the first season. But there are two brothers,
27:45
the Cargills that end up on either side of the Blacks and the Greens,
27:51
and they have a very tragic like trajectory being to win brothers who choose
27:56
each the other side. And I'm like the cat like it is just like
28:00
catastrophic, super sad, very tragic. Doesn't like what the story though,
28:07
like what's gonna happen, It does because it inter relates to like whatever is
28:11
like at the end of the day when everything is burned to a crisp,
28:15
everything's down, and the people who are so left standing, they're so completely
28:18
traumatized by all the crap they see that has happened to get them to the
28:23
place where they're the survivors, and like it changes the way, like you
28:27
know how this is like the most dragons we've seen in the rest of roots.
28:33
There's a reason why that's a thing. There's a reason why Denari's was
28:36
the only one with three dragon or the only person with dragons period, and
28:38
then it was those three, Like there's a reason, and this is the
28:42
herald of all that, this is what brings them all. This is this
28:45
is dragon Ragnarok. Basically, this is the end of times, right,
28:48
and everyone like I said, all the farmers and all the people are gonna
28:52
fucking suffer because of it. Now, when we talk about the dragons right
28:57
like because we were trying to get these together, because that's another thing.
29:00
It's been how many years has been two three, two or three, so
29:04
it's been a while since we've set these names on a daily basis. And
29:08
like you do see a lot of the different players that are stole around and
29:11
they're dragon, so like we do see Rainie and and then and again,
29:18
remember I love what Rainie did, like when they this is during the coronation
29:22
right when she I'm still mad she could have ended it right there. I
29:29
could have said that I like that she popped out. But however, Comma,
29:33
why did you just end ship right there? And I remember there was
29:37
a good rea like like Ben may have said, like a particular reasons why
29:41
she just because, I mean, at the end of the day, Renie
29:45
was like, this is not my fire. I'm not really supposed to be
29:47
up in this. But also they was like that what they had you locked
29:52
up downstairs? The dragon had it locked up downstairs. That's not fighting flame
29:59
words. Then what else is y'all gonna lock me me? You're gonna lock
30:03
me. But she's she's remember she before she had she has said I want
30:10
no parts, but she's gonna align. She's aligned with Venera right like.
30:14
But if you notice from the trailer, that's because her husband is like,
30:21
y'all gotta do something. Y'all buck up. They got they over here throwing
30:23
hits and you're just taking them. We gotta buck up, got it together
30:26
because he's in their coaching, so he's the one who makes the lions that
30:30
way, she was trying to say out of it. He's like, nah,
30:33
we're in here, okay. And she has meelists, which is this
30:37
is a fire dragon. Yeah. And then and in convenient because her husband
30:41
has no dragons. He has a fleet, right, he just has the
30:45
largest fleet in the world, Like, he has the big ship fleet right
30:47
right right, which can be burned by dragons. So this is right the
30:52
Valarians. Uh. And then you have we have Beayla. Beyla is in
30:56
the in the trailers, right al I love Yes, Well, she's someone
31:02
teaser too. I think, Okay, the black girl running dragons, it's
31:04
like my partial like part of my brand. I love black women dragons.
31:10
Anytime I can see it, I'm here for it. And she was like
31:14
she had a more face song like she but she looks happy, but she
31:18
looked like she had she looked like she was about it, like she's like
31:21
about to go to war. And who she rides? She rides Moon Dancer.
31:25
Mm hmm okay. And are any of these tracks or is that just
31:30
later when they talking about Denaris and stuff like you know how like Denaris,
31:33
like there's a dragon that well it became a white walker basically it broke it
31:37
breathed like blue flame and I used to and all this other stuff. Is
31:41
that just something they did? Or are are these dragons were supposed to have
31:45
different like pokemon? Like what That's what I'm trying to understand, Like besides
31:49
the way they look and the size and all this other stuff like are they
31:52
supposed to also have these different breathing powers and whatnot? Is this how to
31:56
turn your dragon or not? No? So, like the main is that
32:00
like in or at least in the in the's talking about some fire universe that
32:02
was written as it was written. The only thing that looks like like so
32:08
one that scene hasn't happened yet because we hadn't gotten that far in the series,
32:13
if we ever get that far right, So that dragon zombie thing,
32:16
if it does happen, it didn't happen in the books yet. Two,
32:21
the only sign that we have of dragons that have a different set of power
32:27
is like lore. It's like super like no one knows it, no one
32:30
has proved it, and anyone has gone in that area. It's like an
32:32
icey and Iceland Sea that's like far off away from West Ros, and there's
32:37
tales that there are dragons there that have ice powers, but we don't know
32:42
that for sure because they've never been documented and they've never come to where like
32:45
the Master's write down, the storytelling or whatever. So okay, so it's
32:52
it's possible, but it's not likely and it's never happened in West Rows history.
32:55
So like, none of the dragons we probably will see will have that
32:59
power. So we're just gonna see straight up carnage, you know, Melee
33:02
fire all that stuff. I really, I mean now I'm like thinking,
33:07
like I said, i keep getting these images of what happened to Luke Lucyrus,
33:10
and I'm just like god damn, Like the way Eric's that was his
33:13
dragon, the way he got in left. He barely had anything that floated
33:17
down. It was just like, and this is another reason why that's so
33:22
fucked. I mean, for obvious reasons, but it's so so so fuck
33:24
Vernera didn't have nothing to bury. She had its clothes and pieces of dragon
33:30
dragon wings, you know what I'm saying, and and and you know,
33:32
the breasts and the dark met and white me like she had nothing. And
33:37
it's just like the the the mental toll that that takes, like not only
33:45
has your son been taken away from you and another dragon because you know that's
33:49
deep in your heart as part of your DNA, but you have nothing to
33:53
even grasp onto physically, like nothing physical to bury, bury, nothing to
33:58
have it. I mean you can build an all her, I guess,
34:00
but there's just nothing to there's nothing to honor. There's literally nothing. You
34:05
can't even make ashes. I wish I could say that would be the last
34:08
time we see something that uh vivid with the dragons, but it's not.
34:15
And I will also say that I feel bad for like thinking about Rinier and
34:20
where she's sitting in that Like she just said that boy that goes and she
34:23
he begged her for the chance he did take a letter because he was supposed
34:30
to be a messenger. Literally, don't shoot the messenger. He got shot
34:32
like that he got They got crazy, it is, and it was only
34:37
because they did not know that his a whole freaking uncle was there already.
34:46
If he hadn't have been at the timing, had just been slightly better,
34:51
that would it would have never gotten that way. But because it and we
34:53
were talking about that episode, how like Amon like he didn't seem like he
34:57
was ready will to happen. He was a he was like, he was
35:00
like he had to. He was like I he was. He's like,
35:04
that's why you should not be honest, big old dragon. The old dragons
35:08
are like you have to have a kind of freaking rapport with them. And
35:12
the older they get, the lesson they listen to you because they've already had
35:15
their dragon writers that they were writer or die for. You're just another one,
35:19
you know what I mean, You haven't. You have to built out
35:21
that relationship. He hadn't built that out yet, and so that big Dragon
35:24
was like, I'm just irritated, I'm gonna I'm gonna eat, and that's
35:28
what he did. And I think because Aimon didn't like initially didn't want that
35:32
ship. I will be fair and say I remember that, and Amon was
35:36
shocked, and like you said, the dragon wasn't listening. He didn't.
35:38
He didn't go there to turn Luke into a snack. He was already there,
35:43
to be honest, he was there, and then yeah, he was
35:46
there, and then Luke popped in and he was like, oh, it's
35:49
time to bully my freaking to bully my cousin or whatever he is cousin,
35:53
cousin, nephew. It's not and it's not. It's all slashes like he's
35:59
they're all that's my grandmother's sister what like, it's all it's strange. But
36:07
like I said, I will give that fairness that yes, that wasn't his
36:09
intent. But it's also like how stupid can you be? And why was
36:14
you fucking there in the first place? Just to fuck with Luke? You
36:16
understand. So that's the maturity, That's what I want to say. That
36:20
Like that goes again to what I was saying earlier about Vicaria's not making sure
36:23
them children was taught, like why weren't they getting dragon law lessons? More
36:28
like stuff you learn like why you don't want to go up against someone and
36:31
cause you would have learned this, like it's hard to train a big old
36:35
dragon. You don't uh, you can't tell a dog an old dog new
36:39
tricks can do that as a dragon. Yeah, And and I like how
36:45
you mentioned earlier just the fact that as little cousins fight, play fighting whatever,
36:49
like, like it became more adversarial as they got older. And because
36:52
they are they weren't they didn't have the proper guidance that everything their intent,
36:59
like even it may not be their initial intent and always ends up negative,
37:02
like everything that they do or touch and ends up causing a problem. And
37:07
and you know, I feel like on the other side, like when you
37:10
looked at Luke and Jays like they innocent, they knew their daddy's love.
37:17
What's ash ketch him just going out in the world as a ten year old
37:21
with his pokemonel Look what happened? Like I just see not come and remember
37:25
it. And now I'm like crying again, like I felt so bad.
37:30
Okay, So so we talked about the trailers and and all the people and
37:35
the things what us in store for us this season, likes as it relates
37:39
to I don't know how much you cause again it's been a few years too
37:43
since you've last read the books and all this stuff. Like you mentioned about
37:46
the twins, that story might come into play, about the two twin guys
37:50
who wanted to make on the green the cargoes. One's going to green,
37:52
one's going to black. What else is we gonna say? Obviously the dance
37:55
of the dragons. We're gonna see the conness. Yeah, you're gonna see.
37:59
We're going to see some be ready, be prepared, uh for dragon
38:06
deaths. The nigga that's that is in love with Allison's feet? Which one
38:09
is that nigga Kristen Cole or else? Well, no, that wasn't well,
38:15
since you no, he died, you know, he died. They
38:17
killed just wanted to make sure that he is it. But since you mentioned
38:22
Sir Crisco, this nigga is a wanna be and he's a pick me and
38:28
I don't like well I don't like him clearly, but but he's a big
38:31
pick me because you remember how now all of a sudden he has purpose because
38:36
he has something to latch to. I don't like people who require other people
38:38
to have purpose. It's very it's very weak minded to me. Where's your
38:44
life? Why don't you have a life? Where are you? Like?
38:46
It's like and I was trying to like him, like who he thinks?
38:50
He's trying to be Like he's trying to be the mountain, like how the
38:52
Mountains was, sir, sirce, He's trying to be the mountain when it
38:54
comes to Alison and and all it really is is also a level of revenge
38:59
because he's mad that long ago over there. You know now it chose like
39:05
she said, I'm out with that. Fuck shit, I'm not with you.
39:07
Fuck boy, I'm trying to build. I'm trying to be queen like
39:10
I can't. I can't deal with you. Know your place, know your
39:15
role? Right? But whatever, And then this whole thing with the Valarians,
39:20
and again, how much Venera not Ranera. Rainie is gonna be a
39:24
factor? I hope she is. How much Bayla and the rest of them
39:28
is gonna be a factor. I do want to see black Girl Dragon writing
39:31
what's gonna happen? It's not it is look as miserable as everybody looked.
39:37
They're gonna that misery loves company, and that's I just look forward to a
39:43
whole season of misery with a couple of moments of chuckles with Damon and his
39:46
jokes. Because that's like, that's all I can suppose. Remember what I
39:53
remember. I'm about to tell Lasaon. I can tease anything. Yeah,
39:58
can you tease anything from me? Speak who knows the story generally? Right?
40:01
Can you tease something that's not it's not gonna spoil us? Speaking of
40:07
men who don't keep it in their pants. Oh, we need to keep
40:12
an eye on Damon. Keep an eye Well that's this Nigga's crazy. Of
40:16
course, you gotta keep an eye on him. But I hear you heard
40:21
understood. Okay, okay, he's another one that's not good at child rearing.
40:25
No, he has problems. He at least he was there for hugs
40:29
when his when the daughter's mother died. Like, at least at least he
40:34
had that. I give him. I just give him that. That's the
40:36
only thing I give him for fatherhood. I'm gonna need them because there's like
40:38
at least that one dragon that Damon was singing to that one time in the
40:43
in the Keep and the Dragon Keep. I'm gonna need them to pull out
40:46
all the blickies as as as much as possible and we will see the heart
40:51
range like we will see all the pokemon in your in your pocket, all
40:55
the like, all of them in your set. You see all them,
40:59
all of them pop out. They're all coming out. And do you have
41:01
to be a targarian in that targarian tree family tree branch to be able to
41:05
ride a dragon? That's another thing I can give you. Not necessarily.
41:10
Dragons are loyal to those who can win their loyalty. Mmm mmm hmm.
41:21
Okay, we haven't met some of the people who that will apply to yet.
41:25
And can you have can can a rider have more than one dragon?
41:30
Or is it like one to one relationship? One? Okay unless somebody die,
41:35
unless the dragon die, unless the person die, well, right,
41:37
but then it become free. But like the what agon ended up doing?
41:40
But was it aimed? Thank you amen ended up doing? Okay, okay,
41:46
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41:52
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