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The Kenny Report | 1 October · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Live from the Skying New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight. Jeff Kennett on the Liberal
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Speaker 1: Party leadership and team players. US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
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Speaker 1: attacks political correctness and diversity goals, telling his charges to
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Speaker 1: focus on winning wars. Anthony Albanesi shuns reform UK leader
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Speaker 1: Nigel Farage. I'll get Pauline Hanson's view on that. Also
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Speaker 1: that Middle East peace deal. Will humm us reject it.
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Speaker 1: We'll try to string the US along. We'll check in
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Speaker 1: on power prices and the cost of living, and in
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Speaker 1: the Wednesday Rangle we'll look at another lame assault on
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Speaker 1: gendered language. Let's get cracking the climate policies foisted on
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Speaker 1: this nation by labor. The Greens and the Teals are
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Speaker 1: hitting hard again. Electricity prices went up again in July
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Speaker 1: and some of the government's ubsidies are coming off. This
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Speaker 1: is fueling inflation and increasing the cost of living. Of course,
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Speaker 1: have a look at these power bills sent in by
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Speaker 1: a viewer from the New South Wales Central table Lands
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Speaker 1: in the winter quarter of twenty twenty three. His bill
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Speaker 1: totaled one thousand, two hundred and eighty six dollars. That's
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Speaker 1: just for three months. The following year, even though he
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Speaker 1: was away for a couple of weeks during the period,
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Speaker 1: the bill for the same quarter at increased to just
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Speaker 1: short of one thousand, four hundred and twenty dollars. Still
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Speaker 1: an increase, of course. But then jump to this winter,
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Speaker 1: in a part of the world where the winters do
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Speaker 1: get pretty cold, the bill jumped to more than two
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. That's an increase of nearly seven hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty dollars, or close to sixty percent in just two years.
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Speaker 1: This is just one example, but we keep being told,
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Speaker 1: of course, not to worry about any of this, because
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Speaker 1: the roll out of renewable energy will fix it.
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Speaker 3: Australians know that the cheapest form of energy is renewables tee.
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Speaker 4: What else hasn't changed the economics that renewables are the
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Speaker 4: cheapest form of energy.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how often they say that. The reality
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Speaker 1: does not change. Power prices are going up because of
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Speaker 1: the renewables push, not despite it. Another example of this
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Speaker 1: policy area unfolding today with news that the biggest coal
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Speaker 1: fired power station in Queensland looks like shutting down early
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Speaker 1: in less than four years time. The closure of this
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Speaker 1: one thousand, six hundred and eighty megawatt plant at Gladstone
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Speaker 1: is bound to create energy security problems for the grid.
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Speaker 1: Yet this sort of closure is exactly what the net
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Speaker 1: zero and renewable energy policies are designed to do. They
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Speaker 1: are designed to make coal power uneconomic and force it
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Speaker 1: out of the system. The trouble is that renewables are
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Speaker 1: not reliable. They're intermittent, so the system can't actually work
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Speaker 1: without that dispatchable power, the same dispatchable power that the
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Speaker 1: policies are trying to force out. It's that in aane
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Speaker 1: my prediction, and it's a short bet already because we've
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Speaker 1: seen this happen before. The state government will end up
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Speaker 1: subsidized in the Gladstone coal fired power station to keep
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Speaker 1: it going. Yeah, government policies subsidize renewable energy to force
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Speaker 1: coal out, and then they subsidize coal because the grid
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Speaker 1: won't work without it. It's already happened in other states,
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Speaker 1: and look out that sort of nuts insane double subsidy
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Speaker 1: will be happening in Queensland next. But the National Climate
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Speaker 1: and Energy Minister Chris bonn Well he reckons the transition
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Speaker 1: is all going swimmingly. That story I brought you yesterday
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Speaker 1: about the vast area of far arming country and bushland
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Speaker 1: being taken over for the renewables roll out, well, he
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Speaker 1: reckons the numbers in that were all exaggerated, and renewables
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Speaker 1: are actually wonderful for the regions.
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Speaker 4: And we know that renewables and agriculture work well together,
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Speaker 4: with farmers choosing to host solar panels and sheep together
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Speaker 4: and win turbines and cattle together, for example, increasing their
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Speaker 4: income and making their income droughtproof. So renewables is actually
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Speaker 4: good for agriculture. It won't take up the room you
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Speaker 4: read in the newspaper today when you read claims by
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Speaker 4: people who love nuclear but hate renewables, it always pays
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Speaker 4: to check the facts.
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Speaker 1: Well, if Chris Bowen is so clear about the facts,
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Speaker 1: he should put out some data on how much land
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Speaker 1: will be needed and where he should also turn up
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Speaker 1: for an interview now. Then, in another post on social media,
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Speaker 1: Bowen has dismissed the climate gate scandal as a conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 1: No it wasn't, Minister. It was climate scientists caught out
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Speaker 1: focusing on the global warming narrative rather than just the
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Speaker 1: facts and he mocked the concerns that mining magnate and
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Speaker 1: agriculture investor Gina Reinhardt, who I should point out advertisers
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Speaker 1: on this channel. Bowen mocked the concerns that Reinhardt was
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Speaker 1: showing for farmers.
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Speaker 5: They already have more than enough to worry about with
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Speaker 5: devastating drafts, floods, fires.
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Speaker 6: That's the point.
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Speaker 4: Climate change makes droughts and floods worse. It reduces farm
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Speaker 4: productivity and farm profits.
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Speaker 7: Farmers understand this. That's why we're acting.
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Speaker 4: One of the reasons we're acting to deal with.
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Speaker 1: Climate Again, he's just wrong. There is no evidence that
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Speaker 1: Australian droughts and floods are worse because of climate change.
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Speaker 1: There are predictions, but the facts. Remember the Minister says
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Speaker 1: he's into the facts. The facts simply do not support
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Speaker 1: the claim that they're making things worse now. Also, when
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Speaker 1: Bowen claims he's acting on climate change to protect farmers,
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Speaker 1: this is arrant nonsense. There is nothing Australia can do
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Speaker 1: that will impact on the climate. He knows that. He
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Speaker 1: must know that whatever you think of global warming and
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Speaker 1: emissions reductions, the science the facts tell us that whatever
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Speaker 1: we do in Australia. It will have no impact on
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Speaker 1: the climate without one percent and declining share of global emisions.
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Speaker 1: We are stuck with whatever comes our way. So stop
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Speaker 1: misleading people, Chris Bowen, deal in facts. You are telling
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Speaker 1: lies about the climate, and then you're making it worse
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Speaker 1: by telling the big lie that your policies can fix it.
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Speaker 1: I want to remind you about our prime minister and
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Speaker 1: the leader of the free world, because Albo doesn't seem
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Speaker 1: to learn. Remember how desperate he was just last week
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Speaker 1: to get a meeting with the commander in chief of
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Speaker 1: our main security ally. Yeah, Anthony Alberesi was so desperate
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Speaker 1: to meet Donald Trump that he bounced up to him
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Speaker 1: and grabbed a selfie like a fanboy. And he still
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Speaker 1: hasn't had a proper meeting. He's hoping to do that
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Speaker 1: later this month. Now that's bad for Albo, of course,
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Speaker 1: but it's also very bad for our country. And it's
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Speaker 1: all come about from the antipathy that Alberanzi has shown
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Speaker 1: towards Trump. We haven't aligned with the US.
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Speaker 3: We're going to deal with him, but that doesn't mean
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Speaker 3: that you're uncritical about it.
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Speaker 1: He's scared out of me. Now that's pretty silly, But
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Speaker 1: Albanizi made it worse, of course, by appointing his great
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Speaker 1: mate Kevin Rudd to Washington, a former PM who's also
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Speaker 1: so bagged Trump relentlessly.
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Speaker 8: That this madman called Trump could have been elected.
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Speaker 1: The United States in the last four years has been
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Speaker 1: run by a village idiot. Do these fools think the
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Speaker 1: White House doesn't notice this stuff? It's just embarrassing stuff
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Speaker 1: from people who should know better. Then in his first time,
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Speaker 1: of course, albaniz he made no attempt to meet Trump
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Speaker 1: when he was just a former president running to be
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Speaker 1: president again. Instead of reaching out for a meeting then
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Speaker 1: to heage Australia's bets if you like, Albo ignored Trump
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Speaker 1: and barracked for the Democrats the weekend at Bernie's presidency
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Speaker 1: of Joe Biden and his hopeless vice president and replacement
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Speaker 1: candidate Kamala Harris Well. Albo lost that bet, and so
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Speaker 1: did Australia. Now, eleven months after Trump's re election, our
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Speaker 1: PM still hasn't had a meeting with him. So you'd
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Speaker 1: think that Albo would have learned. You'd think he'd do
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Speaker 1: what's best for Australia now. But no, while he was
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Speaker 1: in Britain last week and spoke to the UK Labor Conference,
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Speaker 1: caught up with the unpopular Labor Prime Minister ki Istama
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Speaker 1: Albo did not meet Nigel Farag, the reform UK powerhouse
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Speaker 1: who all the polls suggest could be the next British
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Speaker 1: Prime minister for ours, shared his views and all this
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Speaker 1: with Paul Murray last night.
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Speaker 7: I'm afraid the Australian PM not only didn't reach out,
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Speaker 7: but he made it clear that he doesn't want to
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Speaker 7: meet me. He thinks my politics are unacceptable, made it
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Speaker 7: very very clear that he wanted nothing to do with me, which,
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Speaker 7: when do you think about it long term, It's pretty
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Speaker 7: stupid because if I am the Prime Minister in a
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Speaker 7: few short years, surely the relationship with Australia matters to
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Speaker 7: all of us. But that is how narrow minded leftists
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Speaker 7: like Albinizi are.
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Speaker 1: Foraj's spot on Albanez, he is too caught up in
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Speaker 1: his radical left ways. He loves fighting Tories and all that.
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Speaker 1: He's preoccupied with partisan politics instead of what's best for
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Speaker 1: our country. That's not leadership, that's radical left activism. I
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Speaker 1: warned you last night not to get too optimistic about
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Speaker 1: the middle East and that peace deal because Hummas does
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Speaker 1: not want peace. It's never been their thing. They started
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Speaker 1: this war deliberately with a series of atrocities that they
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Speaker 1: knew would shock Israel and lead to a conflict that
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Speaker 1: would create death and destruction for the Palestinians of Gaza.
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Speaker 1: That was their plan, and they got exactly what they wanted.
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Speaker 1: It's all part of their obsession in the long term
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Speaker 1: with the destruction of Israel. Hummas has succeeded through their
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Speaker 1: propaganda now to further isolate Israel diplomatically. So why would
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Speaker 1: they stop down. It's only the useful idiots in the
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Speaker 1: West who actually believe that Hummas wants peace in a
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Speaker 1: two state solution that they've never been interested in and
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Speaker 1: that they never will accept. They only want to be
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Speaker 1: rid of Israel. They will do anything and kill anyone,
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Speaker 1: even their own people, to further that aim, which reminds
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Speaker 1: me where are all those protesters, you know, all those
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Speaker 1: pro Palestinian protesters, those anti Israel protesters who have marched
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Speaker 1: repeatedly on our city streets and across the Sydney Harbor Bridge.
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Speaker 1: They've claimed all along that they're protesting for peace. Well,
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Speaker 1: now there is a peace offer on the table. It
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Speaker 1: offers everything they've said they wanted. Why aren't they out
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Speaker 1: there protesting for peace, demanding that Hamas accepts this deal.
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Speaker 1: Surely they want Hummas to accept the deal. These people
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Speaker 1: have been accusing Israel of genocide. Surely then that'd be
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Speaker 1: on TV and radio now calling for Humas to accept
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Speaker 1: the peace deal to end this genocide, as they call it.
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Speaker 1: Why aren't they seizing this moment to try and help
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Speaker 1: deliver peace. I wonder why do they really believe there's
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Speaker 1: a genocide. Surely they're not motivated more by their hatred
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Speaker 1: for Israel than they are for the prospects of peace.
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Speaker 1: Surely not. Their silence here and around the world is deafening.
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Speaker 1: They claim to advocate for peace and have been so
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Speaker 1: noisy for nearly two years, but now with peace on offer,
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Speaker 1: they fall silent. They've never blamed Hummas for the war
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Speaker 1: or condemned the terrorists for continuing to fight that war,
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Speaker 1: but surely they'll condemn Hummus if it doesn't grab this
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Speaker 1: chance for peace. Don't hold your breath in an age
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Speaker 1: where language and biology seem to have lost their meaning.
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Speaker 1: You know, we have renewable energy that's cheap. War is genocide,
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Speaker 1: and biological males can be female if they so choose. Well,
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Speaker 1: in a world like this, it's rare to see leaders
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Speaker 1: speaking plainly. Former US Army major and one time Fox
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Speaker 1: News host now US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is
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Speaker 1: a plane speaker. Have a look at what he said
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Speaker 1: to a top level gathering of US military leaders.
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Speaker 5: This administration has done a great deal from day one
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Speaker 5: to remove the social justice, politically correct, and toxic ideal
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Speaker 5: logical garbage that had infected our department. To rip out
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Speaker 5: the politics. No more identity months, dei offices, dudes in dresses,
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Speaker 5: no more climate change worship, no more division distraction or
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Speaker 5: gender delusions, no more debris. As I've said before and
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Speaker 5: we'll say again, we are done with that shit.
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Speaker 1: Picks hath changed the name of the US Defense Department
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Speaker 1: to the Department of War, and he's not taking a
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Speaker 1: backwood step from.
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Speaker 5: This moment forward. The only mission of the newly restored
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Speaker 5: Department of War is this war fighting, preparing for war,
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Speaker 5: and preparing to win, unrelenting and uncompromising in that pursuit.
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Speaker 5: Not because we want war, No one here wants war,
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Speaker 5: but it's because we love peace. We love peace for
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Speaker 5: our fellow citizens. They deserve peace, and they rightfully expect
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Speaker 5: us to deliver it.
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Speaker 1: In his speech, head Seth tossed aside the diversity is
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Speaker 1: strength Mantra, declaring that unity is strength. He's got no
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Speaker 1: time for political correctness when it.
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Speaker 5: Comes to any job that requires physical power to perform
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Speaker 5: in combat. Those physical standards must be high and gender neutral.
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Speaker 5: If women can make it, excellent, If not, it is
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Speaker 5: what it is. If that means no women qualify for
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Speaker 5: some combat jobs, so be it.
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Speaker 1: And as for the top brass gathered before him, well
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Speaker 1: they didn't escape the new standards.
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Speaker 5: It's tiring to look out at combat formations or really
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Speaker 5: any formation and see fat troops. Likewise, it's completely unacceptable
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Speaker 5: to see fat generals and admirals in the halls of
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Speaker 5: the Pentagon and leading commands around the country in the world.
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Speaker 5: It's a bad look. It is bad, and it's not
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Speaker 5: who we are. So whether you're an airborne ranger or
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Speaker 5: a chairborn ranger, a brand new private or a four
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Speaker 5: star general, you need to meet the height and weight
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Speaker 5: standards and.
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Speaker 2: Pass the PT tests.
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Speaker 1: Shape up, we'll ship out, and the President endorse the message.
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Speaker 2: We're bringing back a focus on fitness, ability, character and strength.
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Speaker 2: And it's because the purposes of an American military is
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Speaker 2: not to protect anyone's feelings. It's to protect our republic
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Speaker 2: and it's the republic that we dearly love. It's to
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Speaker 2: protect our country. We will not be politically correct when
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Speaker 2: it comes to defending American freedom, and we will be
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Speaker 2: a fighting and winning machine. We want to fight, we
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Speaker 2: want to win, and we want to fight as little
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Speaker 2: as possible. You have to count on people like me
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Speaker 2: to keep you out of worse because we don't want
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Speaker 2: to go intowards me.
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Speaker 1: Times have certainly changed in the US and we'll always
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Speaker 1: do things differently here in Austrikee. But this approach is
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Speaker 1: important for us. The only way to preserve peace is
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Speaker 1: to be strong, and that's a lesson we need to
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Speaker 1: learn here in Australia too. Let's go from the straight
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Speaker 1: talkers in the US to a straight talker at home.
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Speaker 1: And I'm joined now Life from Melbourne by the former
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Speaker 1: Victorian Premier Jef Kenneth. Thanks for johinning us, Jeff.
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Speaker 9: Great pleasure, Chris just as well. Winston Churchill wasn't one
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Speaker 9: of the generals in America today, it'd.
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Speaker 10: Be out.
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Speaker 1: Yes, at Winston Churchill was a bit dubby. Indeed, I
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Speaker 1: don't think you would have passed the PT test at
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Speaker 1: the time. Now, I want to get to some of
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Speaker 1: your straight talking about the Liberal Party and about the
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Speaker 1: coalition in opposition. You've singled out to Andrew Hasty and
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Speaker 1: just into Nabi jiper Price as not being team players
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Speaker 1: at the moment. You say it's vital for the whole
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Speaker 1: of the coalition, the whole the Liberal Party get to
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Speaker 1: get in behind Susan Lee. Just explain why that is
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Speaker 1: the case.
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Speaker 9: Well, very simply, you will never win a battle if
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Speaker 9: that's the current phrase, if you're not united and disciplined,
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Speaker 9: and you only have to see what's happened here in
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Speaker 9: Victoria over the last decade or so when personalities have
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Speaker 9: become more important than the team. Susan Lee has been
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Speaker 9: appointed as leader. She deserves the respect and the assistance
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Speaker 9: and support of those not only in the party, but
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Speaker 9: particularly those in shadow cabinet. And while they have shadow
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Speaker 9: cabinet portfolios, they are quite at liberty to go publicly
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Speaker 9: and speak about the issues that the party have agreed
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Speaker 9: upon within that shadow portfolio. They have no right to
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Speaker 9: be out there arguing cases publicly that have not been
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Speaker 9: decided by the party, and that is to undermine the leader.
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Speaker 9: It is to undermine the discipline that I refer too.
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Speaker 9: And again I can only say you only have to
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Speaker 9: have a look what's happened here in Victoria over the
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Speaker 9: last fourteen years to understand that party opposition is more
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Speaker 9: important than individuals.
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Speaker 1: Well, here's a little sample of some of the social
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Speaker 1: media posts that Andrew Hasty has been putting out there.
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Speaker 11: We used to make complex things in this country. In fact,
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Speaker 11: with cars, we used to say race them on a Sunday,
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Speaker 11: sell them on a Monday. It wasn't just a slogan,
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Speaker 11: it was a way of life. Competition drove innovation in
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Speaker 11: our car industry. But that's all gone now.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Kenna, this isn't really a policy pronouncement, is it.
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Speaker 1: It's not really a policy announcement that's divergent from what
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Speaker 1: the coalition is doing at the moment. He's just appealing
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Speaker 1: to people's sense of Australian and Australian industry, isn't it.
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Speaker 9: Well he may be doing so, but he's probably picked
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Speaker 9: the wrong example because if you remember the Butt Plan
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Speaker 9: that was introduced under the Hawk Keating era was designed
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Speaker 9: to give we consumers here in Australia greater access to
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Speaker 9: vehicles at a cheaper price. But one of the side
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Speaker 9: effects of that was that it destroyed the car industry.
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Speaker 9: We lost our heavy manufacturing industry. Now we have a
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Speaker 9: lot of small manufacturers and that is good. But again
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Speaker 9: it's outside of his portfolio responsibility. You're either Chris in
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Speaker 9: the team or you're making comments, particularly on net zero,
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Speaker 9: on which the Party hasn't made a decision, and that
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Speaker 9: undermines the leader and the party position of trying to
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Speaker 9: get to a final policy position that they can all
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Speaker 9: their advocates. So he knows what he's doing. Andrew, He's
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Speaker 9: been a member of a very disciplined elite military force.
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Speaker 9: But he knows as well as I do that you
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Speaker 9: can't have individuals captains leading their troops in different directions
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Speaker 9: to the main body of soldiers. So Andrew, he says
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Speaker 9: he's not undermining the leader. The very fact that he's
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Speaker 9: saying these things is doing just that. You've got to
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Speaker 9: work within the system and if you can convince your
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Speaker 9: colleagues that what you're saying and what you're believe in
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Speaker 9: it is right, then they'll all support you. But not
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Speaker 9: no one individual in the environment in which we live
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Speaker 9: has all the answers. So you're either in the team
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Speaker 9: or you stick to your portfolio and talk on that.
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Speaker 1: Now. Of course, as you mentioned, net zero is one
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Speaker 1: policy area where Andrew Hasey has made it very clear
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Speaker 1: that he's opposed to net zero, even though, of course
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Speaker 1: the Coalition took net zero to the last election. But
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Speaker 1: isn't the problem here the fact that they still haven't
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Speaker 1: made up their mind the Liberal Party that there is
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Speaker 1: not a policy position. In fact, they've scrapped all their
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Speaker 1: policies from the last election and now they're in this
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Speaker 1: policy vacuum. So how can Susan Lee or her colleagues
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Speaker 1: attack the government and hold them to account when they
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Speaker 1: have no policy platform themselves.
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Speaker 9: Chris, it's only a few months since the election. Susan
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Speaker 9: is leading the party through a process to come to
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Speaker 9: a position that they can all hopefully agree on. I'm
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Speaker 9: not worried about the need to rush out today and tomorrow.
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Speaker 9: On every policy issue, you need to consider your position. So,
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Speaker 9: for instance, I support climate change to the point that
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Speaker 9: we are all better educated, and even though Australia only
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Speaker 9: contributes one point three percent of the global emissions, we
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Speaker 9: are better educated and we're doing things differently today than
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Speaker 9: we were some years ago in the area of how
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Speaker 9: we dispose of waste etc. I don't think the short
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Speaker 9: term targets that the government have set thirty five twenty
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Speaker 9: thirty five or met zero in two and fifty are achievable,
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Speaker 9: but that doesn't mean we an opposition, shouldn't be insisting
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Speaker 9: that the government stick to what they've said and do
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Speaker 9: so without crippling industry and without lifting the energy costs
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Speaker 9: to families. So there's a lot for us to fight
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Speaker 9: on and I do not think throwing the concept of
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Speaker 9: net zero out the window today, which will be misinterpreted
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Speaker 9: by so many people, particularly our young, that we're not
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Speaker 9: interested in climate change. We're interested in climate change, we
23:35
Speaker 9: want to take our time to get to a position,
23:38
Speaker 9: and importantly we don't want there to be costs imposed
23:41
Speaker 9: on industry and on family households.
23:47
Speaker 1: That's the problem though, isn't it that the idea of
23:49
Speaker 1: net zero is being interpreted as as you're care for
23:53
Speaker 1: the environment, your care for the planet. As you just said,
23:56
Speaker 1: net zero is not achievable. They won't achieve it. So
23:58
Speaker 1: why on earth should the coalition sign up to a
24:02
Speaker 1: plan that is not only very costly but can't be achieved.
24:06
Speaker 1: Isn't it time to re educate the public about this,
24:09
Speaker 1: that you can actually reduce emissions without signing up to
24:12
Speaker 1: ridiculous goals?
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Speaker 9: Chris, The reality is, my friend, there's nothing we can
24:20
Speaker 9: do in opposition in a meaningful way between now and
24:23
Speaker 9: there and ex election. Right, even if you change the policy,
24:27
Speaker 9: there's nothing you can do. The government has locked the
24:29
Speaker 9: policy in. They've locked in the short term. Let them
24:32
Speaker 9: work to try and achieve it. I don't believe they will.
24:36
Speaker 9: So it gives us the opportunity to say, yes, we're
24:39
Speaker 9: in favor of responsible behavior in terms of climate change,
24:44
Speaker 9: but we're not in favor of the government in pursuit
24:47
Speaker 9: of they're objectives adding greater costs to individuals, to family
24:51
Speaker 9: and industry. My goodness, that's a wonderful position to argue
24:55
Speaker 9: without throwing out the whole idea of net zero.
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Speaker 1: In short, is Susan Lee being undermined at the moment
25:08
Speaker 1: you bet her in to do the job?
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Speaker 9: Oh sorry, I just about fell over. I was so
25:13
Speaker 9: excited up. Yes, I back her in to do the job.
25:17
Speaker 9: And what I like about her is she's not rushing
25:20
Speaker 9: in in responding to media journalists on this issue, that policy, etc.
25:24
Speaker 9: She's working through a process. But when you have members
25:29
Speaker 9: of the party coming out as Andrew has done and
25:32
Speaker 9: sadly Jacinta did without being prepared to endorse their leader,
25:37
Speaker 9: of course that's undermining their position and I don't think
25:40
Speaker 9: that's acceptable. And I just asked some please have a
25:44
Speaker 9: look at what's happened in Victoria over the last thirteen
25:48
Speaker 9: fourteen years. It has been personality politics, which I hope
25:52
Speaker 9: is now to an end. I do not want to
25:54
Speaker 9: see it being attracted into the Federal Liberal Party. I
25:59
Speaker 9: want them to be a united, disciplined opposition.
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Speaker 1: Jeff kennedad always good to talk to you. Thanks so
26:07
Speaker 1: much for your time, great pleasures. Say well Jeff Kennett,
26:14
Speaker 1: their former Victorian premier and a Liberal Party elder. There
26:18
Speaker 1: with some words of advice for the Federal Party. Let's
26:20
Speaker 1: go to Pauline Hanson, now the One Nation leader. She
26:22
Speaker 1: joins US life from scenic Rim in Queensland. Thanks to
26:26
Speaker 1: staying there, you would have been interested in what Jeff
26:27
Speaker 1: Kennet had had to say there as well. Pauline your thoughts.
26:33
Speaker 6: It was interesting what he were saying.
26:34
Speaker 12: You said she should just stick with it and see
26:37
Speaker 12: what the government can achieve with it. And I think
26:39
Speaker 12: it's totally wrong. The public want to know what your
26:41
Speaker 12: policies are now talk about give her time. She's been
26:46
Speaker 12: a member of Parliament for what since twenty ten or
26:49
Speaker 12: something round about that time. The climate change has been
26:52
Speaker 12: an issue since that time. They should have more of
26:54
Speaker 12: an idea and to put a plan out there. Andrew
27:00
Speaker 12: Hasty and quite a few others within the Liberal Party,
27:02
Speaker 12: and Matt Canavan and Alexander Tick and a few of them,
27:06
Speaker 12: and Barnaby Joyce are absolutly fed up with the climate
27:09
Speaker 12: change and the path they're heading and they want to
27:12
Speaker 12: speak up about it.
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Speaker 6: I don't blame them.
27:14
Speaker 12: Industries manufacturing has been a big issue of mind right
27:17
Speaker 12: from nineteen ninety six. I've been speaking about it. They
27:20
Speaker 12: can see the writing on the ball and they can
27:22
Speaker 12: frustrate it with their own party, with their own leader
27:25
Speaker 12: because they don't see anything happening. People need to know,
27:28
Speaker 12: you know, you can't just leave it to the last
27:30
Speaker 12: few months to come out with policies. People want to
27:32
Speaker 12: know what policies are, what you're going to do about it,
27:35
Speaker 12: And over thirty percent of people think it's unachievable of
27:38
Speaker 12: what the governor's giving us in this climate change. So
27:42
Speaker 12: you know, I disagree with for you and I disagree.
27:45
Speaker 12: I don't believe she's going to make a I don't
27:47
Speaker 12: think she'll make a good leader at all.
27:52
Speaker 1: We will see, we will see that policy review is
27:55
Speaker 1: still going on at least does leave a vacuum and
27:58
Speaker 1: they need to a platform to argue the case from.
28:00
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. We're told not to expect too
28:03
Speaker 1: much till early in the new year. Now, I want
28:06
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on the political maverick, Nigel Faras
28:09
Speaker 1: you of course are a political maverick yourself, paul En
28:11
Speaker 1: Hands and so you know where he's coming from. The
28:13
Speaker 1: difference is, of course, according to the polls and because
28:17
Speaker 1: of the system in the UK, he is potentially the
28:21
Speaker 1: next Prime Minister of the UK in the years to come,
28:25
Speaker 1: something of course that you couldn't have delivered. But is
28:29
Speaker 1: it then advisable for Anthony alb easy to ignore him?
28:33
Speaker 1: Is he not the most significant figure in UK? Politics
28:36
Speaker 1: at the moment and how they order to actually break
28:38
Speaker 1: red with him.
28:41
Speaker 12: It's only here arrogance on behalf of Anthony Albanisi to
28:45
Speaker 12: go over there and not have a meeting with him,
28:47
Speaker 12: it was okay for him and have a meeting with
28:49
Speaker 12: the opposition leader. That's where they have the attitude. It's
28:52
Speaker 12: just a two party system and it's the same thing here.
28:55
Speaker 12: They don't want to acknowledge the minor parties and he's
28:58
Speaker 12: gathering so much momentum over there, he'll win over three
29:01
Speaker 12: hundred seats based on today's polling, so he could be
29:05
Speaker 12: the future prime minister. It's share arrogance the way he's
29:07
Speaker 12: treated him, and I think it's disgusting, and you know, I.
29:13
Speaker 6: Think it's terrible the way he's treated Nigel Faraj.
29:19
Speaker 1: Now, I noticed that given the trouble with the major
29:22
Speaker 1: parties continuing now that you're polling for one nation in
29:27
Speaker 1: most of the polls, is continuing to increase. I don't
29:31
Speaker 1: know whether you can sustain that. I don't know how
29:33
Speaker 1: much longer you're going to stay in politics, Pauling. But
29:36
Speaker 1: what are you looking at doing to capitalize on your
29:39
Speaker 1: stronger polling? Are you looking at lower House seats again
29:41
Speaker 1: in the future or concentrating on the Senate.
29:46
Speaker 12: At this stage, Chris, I will be standing for the
29:48
Speaker 12: Senate at the next election. Yes, I do have the
29:51
Speaker 12: younger generation coming through and I think it's important to
29:53
Speaker 12: do that. I wanted to grow to the party for
29:56
Speaker 12: them to actually be government further down the track for
30:00
Speaker 12: the bi State or eventually opposition and maybe government in Australia.
30:04
Speaker 12: The people. What's happened since the election? Yes, we have
30:07
Speaker 12: doubled in our polling since the election. We've actually since
30:10
Speaker 12: the Charlie Kirk incident, we increase a membership of five percent,
30:14
Speaker 12: and our membership since the election has grown quite a lot.
30:19
Speaker 6: I'm very impressed with that.
30:21
Speaker 12: We're rolling out branches across the country and the people
30:24
Speaker 12: are coming board. The National Party members walked away from
30:27
Speaker 12: their branch in Tamworth and coming across the One Nation
30:30
Speaker 12: and as I said, prominent people have actually come across
30:32
Speaker 12: the One Nation. They've fed up the major political parties.
30:35
Speaker 12: They're fed up with the Liberal National Party of not
30:38
Speaker 12: delivering for them. So I will keep driving it. I
30:41
Speaker 12: will keep putting pressure on them. I will bring out
30:43
Speaker 12: the policies. I'm totally opposed to net zero and it's
30:47
Speaker 12: destroying our industries. I'm also come out strongly against the
30:51
Speaker 12: mass migration that we're having at the moment, and that's
30:54
Speaker 12: the impact selling and that's why the barings have dropped
30:57
Speaker 12: their percentage in the cities.
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Speaker 1: A bit of a summary there of a stump speech.
31:02
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Pauline. We are out of time, Pauline Hanson.
31:05
Speaker 1: They're making that pitch for why one nation is doing well.
31:09
Speaker 1: It sounds like a political spill, which it is, of course,
31:11
Speaker 1: but it's also true. It's reflected in the polls. There
31:14
Speaker 1: is disaffection with the major parties, and paul Enhanson in
31:18
Speaker 1: one nation they are capitalizing. So we will see what unfolds.
31:22
Speaker 1: Now we're going to get to a break on the
31:23
Speaker 1: other side, going to check in on the cost of living,
31:26
Speaker 1: power prices up, interest rates stuck where they are for
31:28
Speaker 1: the moment. I'll get to insight from economist Gigi Foster.
31:36
Speaker 1: Now I don't need to remind you, of course, at
31:38
Speaker 1: the cost of living crisis and the housing crisis are
31:41
Speaker 1: two issues really causing a lot of pain right around
31:44
Speaker 1: the country is still and of course they're both exacerbated
31:47
Speaker 1: by the record levels of immigration, that labour's only now
31:50
Speaker 1: starting to inch downwards. And of course today the federal government,
31:55
Speaker 1: the alb and Easy Labor government, has expanded access to
31:58
Speaker 1: this coalition scheme that provides a government guarantee on five
32:03
Speaker 1: percent deposits for first home buyers and the PM, though
32:08
Speaker 1: has had to admit that this will increase the prices.
32:11
Speaker 1: It'll push housing prices upwards.
32:16
Speaker 3: It will have a minimal impact. There will be a
32:18
Speaker 3: slide increase in prices, but already one hundred and eighty
32:23
Speaker 3: five thousand Australians have benefited from this scheme with minimal
32:28
Speaker 3: impact on prices. Treasury did modeling they suggest a very
32:33
Speaker 3: small increase.
32:35
Speaker 1: Let's bring in professor Ggi Foster from the University of
32:38
Speaker 1: New South Wales School of Economics. Good to talk to
32:40
Speaker 1: you again, gg just on this housing scheme that was
32:43
Speaker 1: expanded today. We've known this is coming for a long while. Look,
32:48
Speaker 1: I'm hypercritical of this government on many other issues, but
32:52
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be too critical of them on this one
32:54
Speaker 1: for pushing up prices. Just About anything you do to
32:57
Speaker 1: help first home buyers is going to have an impact
32:59
Speaker 1: on is that pushes them up, isn't it, and this
33:02
Speaker 1: one is not going to have a big impact on process.
33:05
Speaker 1: Is It's more about getting people in at the lower end,
33:07
Speaker 1: isn't it.
33:08
Speaker 10: Well that is the intent, of course, and I think
33:10
Speaker 10: that it probably will be effective for that purpose. But
33:13
Speaker 10: it really is a band aid solution. And I don't
33:15
Speaker 10: like the idea of getting the government involved in guarantees
33:19
Speaker 10: for basically, you know, low down payment loans, right, that's
33:23
Speaker 10: setting people up for financial difficulties later on down the track.
33:26
Speaker 10: So it really is a band aid, and there are
33:29
Speaker 10: ways to more creatively help first home buyers or help
33:32
Speaker 10: young people for example. You know, you could talk to
33:35
Speaker 10: the banks, who, by the way, bring in what fifteen
33:37
Speaker 10: percent profit every year and say, well, why don't you
33:40
Speaker 10: give preferential interest rates to those young people or to
33:43
Speaker 10: the first home buyers, give them an actual advantage in
33:46
Speaker 10: the market, you know, be a little more courageous about it.
33:48
Speaker 10: And that's not going to influence prices as directly, if
33:51
Speaker 10: at all. And you know, so there are ways you
33:53
Speaker 10: can help, and you can also work on things like
33:55
Speaker 10: capacity utilization and incentives for older families, empty nesters to
34:00
Speaker 10: downsize in ways that suit their preferences and needs to
34:03
Speaker 10: open up more housing for.
34:05
Speaker 6: The young families.
34:06
Speaker 10: So I think there are a lot of other ways
34:07
Speaker 10: you could do it. This is just the kind of
34:08
Speaker 10: the easiest has been done before this kind of thing,
34:11
Speaker 10: and I think longer term it can set people up
34:14
Speaker 10: for financial distress.
34:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right when you talk about
34:19
Speaker 1: those other measures. And the worry here is if you
34:22
Speaker 1: are getting people into mortgages that they can't afford. What
34:25
Speaker 1: we've seen that movie before, when that House of Cards
34:28
Speaker 1: falls down, it can be terrible. So that's the concern here.
34:32
Speaker 1: I want to get you more broadly on the cost
34:34
Speaker 1: of living crisis. JJU. We saw registrates kipt on hold
34:37
Speaker 1: again yesterday. A real worry if they don't go down
34:40
Speaker 1: a lot further because they still haven't of course gone
34:43
Speaker 1: down anywhere near as far as that risen in the
34:45
Speaker 1: previous years, and power prices going up again from July,
34:49
Speaker 1: some of the subsidies coming off. There is a real
34:53
Speaker 1: squeeze on for middle Australia still, isn't there? Yeah?
34:57
Speaker 10: There is, And also of course the lower income people.
35:00
Speaker 10: I mean, as usual it's the most disadvantage to feel
35:02
Speaker 10: the pinch the worst when there are economic distress signals
35:06
Speaker 10: and there are a.
35:06
Speaker 6: Couple things to say.
35:07
Speaker 10: I mean, there are definitely miss mixed signals at the
35:09
Speaker 10: moment that Michelle Bullock and her committee are looking at,
35:13
Speaker 10: you do see a kind of softening, very slight softening
35:16
Speaker 10: in the labor market. So, for example, recruitment difficulties that
35:20
Speaker 10: are reported by employers have gone down and down, so
35:22
Speaker 10: we're now kind of at pre pandemic levels of difficulty
35:26
Speaker 10: finding workers, so we're no longer in this really hot
35:28
Speaker 10: labor market that we were, So she'll be looking at
35:31
Speaker 10: that as well as of course looking at the inflation figures, which,
35:34
Speaker 10: as you know, we're up because of the cessation of
35:36
Speaker 10: some of these electricity rebates, which of course is again
35:39
Speaker 10: another government handout that has mixed up the signals and
35:43
Speaker 10: made it difficult to figure out how the economy is
35:45
Speaker 10: really doing. And there's one other thing I wanted to mention,
35:47
Speaker 10: which is that the CPI, the Consumer Price Index which
35:50
Speaker 10: we use to try to gauge inflation and sort of
35:53
Speaker 10: cost of living, is itself adjusted every year to have
35:57
Speaker 10: a slightly different basket of goods, partly because people buy
36:00
Speaker 10: different things when other things they'd prefer to have are
36:03
Speaker 10: more expensive. So even if people are not spending quite
36:06
Speaker 10: as much more as they as they used to compared
36:10
Speaker 10: to the inflation figures of the headline, they still are
36:12
Speaker 10: under stress because they're not necessarily buying the things they'd
36:15
Speaker 10: most want. So there's been a loss of consumer surplus.
36:18
Speaker 10: And that fact that the prices are still high and
36:21
Speaker 10: they're not necessarily buying the stuff they'd most prefer that
36:24
Speaker 10: they were able to a few years ago, is what's
36:26
Speaker 10: causing this this perception of economic stress.
36:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a worry. We're certainly not out of the
36:34
Speaker 1: woods yet. It's not a bit of rises just yet.
36:38
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, JJ, I appreciate it.
36:40
Speaker 1: We're going to take a break. On the other side,
36:41
Speaker 1: I'm going to have a little bit more on this
36:43
Speaker 1: economic squeeze with Dave Shama, the Liberal Senator for New
36:47
Speaker 1: South Wales. Also get his views on the Middle East
36:49
Speaker 1: peace deal. Will Hamas rejected or are they going to
36:52
Speaker 1: try and string everybody along? The clock is ticking on
36:59
Speaker 1: that Middle East peace plan, with Donald Trump giving Hamas
37:03
Speaker 1: three or four days to accept the deal. But as
37:06
Speaker 1: I warned you last night, you shouldn't get too optimistic
37:09
Speaker 1: because Hamas doesn't want peace it's never been their thing.
37:13
Speaker 1: What they're into is the distraction of Israel and the
37:16
Speaker 1: death of Jews. He's the latest from sky News UK.
37:23
Speaker 13: No peace plan agreed and no peace on the ground.
37:27
Speaker 13: So much depends now on Hamas on whether each will
37:31
Speaker 13: agree to give up the forty eight hostages it still
37:34
Speaker 13: holds twenty of them believed to be alive, in return
37:38
Speaker 13: for a ceasefire. The American President optimistic, buoyed by the
37:42
Speaker 13: support of other nations.
37:45
Speaker 3: We're going to do about three or four days.
37:47
Speaker 2: We'll see. Howadays we're just waiting for Armas and Hamas
37:50
Speaker 2: is either going to be doing it or not, and
37:52
Speaker 2: if it's not, it's going to be a very sad end.
37:58
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dave Shama, former Amba to Israel for
38:01
Speaker 1: Australia and the shadow Assistant Minister for Treasury. Thanks for
38:04
Speaker 1: joining us against David. I'll come to your portfolio areas
38:08
Speaker 1: in just a moment, but first up, I'm keen to
38:10
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on this piece deal and what you expect,
38:14
Speaker 1: how much to do the world is waiting.
38:20
Speaker 8: Well, look, I think it's the most comprehensive and substantial
38:24
Speaker 8: peace Dell that's been put forward in the two years
38:26
Speaker 8: of this conflict. You know, it provides for an end
38:28
Speaker 8: to the war in Gaza, It provides for the release
38:31
Speaker 8: of the hostages, it provides for a new governance mechanism
38:34
Speaker 8: in Gaza, and it would provide a more hopeful future
38:38
Speaker 8: for the entire region. But as you say, I mean, look,
38:41
Speaker 8: Israel's agreed to it, the Arab states have agreed to it.
38:44
Speaker 8: Humas needs to give its response.
38:46
Speaker 11: Now.
38:47
Speaker 8: I don't hold out a lot of hope. I don't
38:49
Speaker 8: think it's in their own interests give a response. As
38:51
Speaker 8: you said, they just want perpetual war with Israel, and
38:54
Speaker 8: they don't really care about the consequences to their own population.
38:58
Speaker 8: But I'm hopeful that because of the military pressure they've
39:01
Speaker 8: been put under, because of unrest amongst their own population
39:05
Speaker 8: in Gaza, and because of pressure that can be applied
39:08
Speaker 8: from states like Qatar, like Turkey, like Egypt, a deal
39:12
Speaker 8: mights to be possible.
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Speaker 1: This is the most encouraging aspect, isn't it The fact
39:20
Speaker 1: that Kata and other Arab nations are actually trying to
39:23
Speaker 1: push Hamas into accepting this deal.
39:29
Speaker 8: It is and you have to remember, look, these states
39:31
Speaker 8: have a lot of influence over Hamas. Hamas has been
39:34
Speaker 8: financed throughout its life from offshore, most generously and most
39:39
Speaker 8: recently by Qatar. Hamasa's political leadership lives in exile in Qatar,
39:44
Speaker 8: and the fact that they've got that presence basically gives
39:47
Speaker 8: them a level of currency and status within the Arab world,
39:51
Speaker 8: allows them to raise money, allows them to access media
39:55
Speaker 8: outlets and everything else. If Katar says you take this
39:58
Speaker 8: deal or we cut you off would be a significant
40:01
Speaker 8: blow to HAMAS. I don't know if they can survive
40:03
Speaker 8: as an organization without the outside support and outside financing
40:08
Speaker 8: they've gotten, because all they do is spend money on
40:11
Speaker 8: tunnels and weapons and weapons systems, not feeding or clothing
40:14
Speaker 8: their own population. They don't grow the economy, they don't
40:16
Speaker 8: have a tax base of their own. So these countries,
40:21
Speaker 8: if they're on board, and it seems they are, they
40:22
Speaker 8: can put a significant amount of pressure on a musk
40:25
Speaker 8: And look, that's where Australia should be playing. Our role
40:27
Speaker 8: now is putting pressure and encouragement on these countries to
40:31
Speaker 8: make sure that Hamas signs onto this.
40:36
Speaker 1: Well, let's make the big switch now from that conflagration
40:40
Speaker 1: to the housing crisis in Australia and your portfolio. Labour's
40:44
Speaker 1: expanded plan to help people out with five percent deposits
40:48
Speaker 1: to effectively ensure their mortgages. This is a government sort
40:53
Speaker 1: of taking on the risk of first home buyers with
40:56
Speaker 1: all the economic risk that entails further down the track.
41:00
Speaker 1: Surely it doesn't do anything about the fundamental problem, and
41:02
Speaker 1: that is the problem of supply. We need more land subdivided,
41:06
Speaker 1: we need freer planning rules. We need to just increase
41:09
Speaker 1: supply in this country to try to make sure that
41:12
Speaker 1: the demand is satisfied and prices go down or become
41:16
Speaker 1: at least more manageable.
41:20
Speaker 8: All Labour's policy is going to do is to push
41:23
Speaker 8: housing prices up. I mean the Prime is to himself
41:26
Speaker 8: admitted that today Labor is building fewer homes than when
41:29
Speaker 8: the Coalition was in office, about one hundred and seventy
41:31
Speaker 8: thousand over the past twelve months versus two hundred thousand
41:35
Speaker 8: when we're in office. Treasury, its own government department, says
41:38
Speaker 8: it's not going to meet its housing target. And all
41:41
Speaker 8: this scheme does, which is uncapped and not means tested,
41:45
Speaker 8: is fuel demand. It's probably going to put somewhere between
41:48
Speaker 8: ten and twenty percent more buyers into the market competing
41:51
Speaker 8: for a smaller number of homes and new homes that
41:54
Speaker 8: are out there. Everyone knows, if you've got a larger
41:57
Speaker 8: number of buyers chasing a smaller number of goods, prices
42:00
Speaker 8: go up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, at the very least you'd think you'd means tested.
42:06
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Dave, I appreciate it. Dave Shama
42:08
Speaker 1: with their liberal senator New South Wales has got to
42:10
Speaker 1: get to a break. On the other side, the Wednesday
42:12
Speaker 1: Wrangle with Denika de Georgio and James Bolt, we'll look
42:14
Speaker 1: at another ridiculous assault on gendered language. Let's get into
42:23
Speaker 1: the Wednesday Wrangle now with Dedeca, the Georgio host of
42:26
Speaker 1: her self titled show Just Denika actually doesn't use the
42:30
Speaker 1: Georgio Business five o'clock here on Fridays when you're tuning
42:34
Speaker 1: in at this time. As ever, on a Friday, you'll
42:36
Speaker 1: see Denka also Sky's News contributor James Bolt, joining us,
42:40
Speaker 1: both live from Sydney. Good to talk to you both. Hey,
42:42
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this co competition between Australia and Turkey,
42:48
Speaker 1: of all places to hold the Big cop thirty one,
42:51
Speaker 1: The Big Climate conference next year. I mean, James, shouldn't
42:56
Speaker 1: we just op out and say, Turkey, you can have
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Speaker 1: this one. It'll say as a bomb and will save
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Speaker 1: all those carbon dioxide emissions from flying everybody to Australia anyway.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's exactly it. It's just why do we need
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Speaker 14: to have this giant climate conference with people flown in
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Speaker 14: from all around the world, all these big important bureaucrats
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Speaker 14: when we have the thing called a zoom call. Now
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Speaker 14: it's not as illustrious. You don't get invited to as
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Speaker 14: many fancy dinner parties. I understand the drawback for the
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Speaker 14: bureaucrats themselves, but if I'm supposed to take it seriously
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Speaker 14: that you genuinely can concerned about climate change, then I
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Speaker 14: have to doubt the credentials when you demand the flights
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Speaker 14: to Australia or Turkey.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Danika, in this competition, I'm barracking for Turkey. They
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Speaker 1: can have it.
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Speaker 15: Look, please, Turkey, do us all a favor and take it,
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Speaker 15: take it off our hands. And then I read today
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Speaker 15: that they want to do a joint hosting effort.
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Speaker 1: What does that mean?
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Speaker 15: Has that ever been done before? The best thing that
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Speaker 15: could possibly happen is Turkey take it?
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Speaker 1: I mean for the.
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Speaker 15: Bargain price Chris of three hundred million dollars. It means
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Speaker 15: we get to fly elites over on their private jets
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Speaker 15: to what have a chat about private jets? But you know, no,
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Speaker 15: it's not all a waste.
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Speaker 1: Don't worry.
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Speaker 15: They'll all sit there pat each other on the back
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Speaker 15: and make themselves feel better about a problem that we
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Speaker 15: can't even solve here in Australia.
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Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous. Now go to language and gendered language
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Speaker 1: and what's that?
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Speaker 16: James?
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Speaker 9: Sorry?
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Speaker 14: Can I jump in with one more thing? So Australia
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Speaker 14: and Turkey are complete loggerheads as to who's going to
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Speaker 14: host this thing. We've got the best minds of our
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Speaker 14: countries trying to figure out the location. They can't do it.
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Speaker 14: And yet they think that they can solve the climate crisis.
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Speaker 14: Like you can't even agree on where it's going to
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Speaker 14: be hosted, let alone the outcomes of your meetings. So
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Speaker 14: what's going on here?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they've got no idea. In other words, now,
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Speaker 1: I was going to get onto language and there's been
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Speaker 1: another push by teachers the country to get rid of
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Speaker 1: gendered language. We're not supposed to say boys and girls anymore. Instead,
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Speaker 1: we're supposed to say things like cherubs and friends and funsters.
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Speaker 1: It is pathetic, Denika. Why can't they just let people
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Speaker 1: use the language as it is.
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Speaker 15: Look if I was a parent Crise and my child
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Speaker 15: came home and started saying that boys and girls are
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Speaker 15: cherubs and fundsters, I'd be highly concerned. What has happened
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Speaker 15: to the basics, maths, science, English, ABC's No. I mean,
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Speaker 15: I worry for this next generation. They are growing up
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Speaker 15: totally confused. I don't know if they're a boy or
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Speaker 15: a girl. They are being told that, you know, we're
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Speaker 15: being we should be worried about the climate change mageddon.
45:40
Speaker 15: They're being told to apologize to the stolen generation. They've
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Speaker 15: got absolutely no hope because it's been run the education
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Speaker 15: system by activist teachers.
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Speaker 1: The other issue is is that the.
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Speaker 15: Decisions or parenting is actually being taken away from parenting.
45:55
Speaker 15: And look, once again, I really really worry for this
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Speaker 15: next general.
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Speaker 1: Yes, my kids have gone to all boys schools. They
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Speaker 1: should have been all cherubs school I presume otherwise to
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Speaker 1: avoid any confusion. Now, I've got to show you this
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a demonstration in the us. This
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Speaker 1: was a mother who was protesting against all the transgender activism,
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Speaker 1: obviously wanting to protect the rights of women and girls
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Speaker 1: that they could have their own change rooms and not
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Speaker 1: be forced to change with transgender women who are obviously
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Speaker 1: are biological men. And here's how she made her point.
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Speaker 16: I'm a parent in the Davis Unified School District and
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Speaker 16: I'm here today to talk about the policies you have
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Speaker 16: for the locker rooms in the junior high schools.
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Speaker 7: Right now, we.
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Speaker 16: Require our students to undress for pe class. So I'm
46:51
Speaker 16: just going to give you an idea what that looks
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Speaker 16: like when I undress. So right now, this school district
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Speaker 16: is saying that depending on a child transgender identity, that
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Speaker 16: they can pick which bathroom they want. So we have
47:05
Speaker 16: right now at this school district we have children self
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Speaker 16: identifying into different bathrooms just based.
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Speaker 6: Off of the no, you cannot, I have my bathing
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Speaker 6: suit on. Excuse me, this is allowed.
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Speaker 2: We're going to recess.
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Speaker 1: So they shut it down, James, they shut it down.
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Speaker 1: She made a point perfectly that this is too risk
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Speaker 1: gay for their little hearing. But they expect their daughters
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Speaker 1: to get undressed like that, even though there are biological
47:34
Speaker 1: males in the room.
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Speaker 14: What I like about this story is that woman said
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Speaker 14: that she'd been making that exact point at the council
47:42
Speaker 14: hearings every month for three years and finally decided that
47:45
Speaker 14: simple words weren't cutting through. There's something a bit more
47:48
Speaker 14: drastic had to be done to be heard. Now, I
47:50
Speaker 14: think you know much to the relief of the Studio
47:54
Speaker 14: Taniqua anyone at home. I'm not going to take up
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Speaker 14: her mantle and decide that that's how I want to
47:59
Speaker 14: make my points. But I think you know she has
48:02
Speaker 14: recognized that sometimes you need to say his papers attention
48:05
Speaker 14: if you want to say something.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great example. Now, Danaiko, I got to
48:13
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on Peyt Higgsith in the US lying
48:16
Speaker 1: down the law quite quite intuitive force of Appling speaking.
48:21
Speaker 1: He is a little bit more of the Defense secretary.
48:24
Speaker 5: An entire generation of generals and admirals were told that
48:28
Speaker 5: they must parrot the insane fallacy that quote our diversity
48:32
Speaker 5: is our strength. Of course, we know our unity is
48:36
Speaker 5: our strength. They had to put out dizzying DEI and
48:40
Speaker 5: lgbt q I plus statements. They were told females and
48:45
Speaker 5: males are the same thing, or that males who think
48:48
Speaker 5: they're females totally normal.
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Speaker 1: Do you want to pick any arguments with him, Janeka.
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Speaker 15: No arguments from me, Chris. In the end, he's lying
48:58
Speaker 15: down the law. I mean, do you think that China
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Speaker 15: hiring dei hires for their military? Do you think they're
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Speaker 15: hiring people who physically are unable to meet the demands
49:06
Speaker 15: in the event that it goes to ward.
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Speaker 1: No, they're laughing.
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Speaker 6: At their enemies.
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Speaker 15: So good on, Pete, headset, headset. He's preparing America for
49:13
Speaker 15: the event of war, and I actually think that our
49:16
Speaker 15: ADF could learn a lot from it. I mean, we
49:18
Speaker 15: know that when you fill out a recruitment form here, Chris,
49:21
Speaker 15: you even have to give your pronouns. Again, China's not
49:24
Speaker 15: asking for pronouns, So say.
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Speaker 1: It like it is, Pete. Stick to the facts, stick
49:31
Speaker 1: to the science, stick to biology. Thanks so much for
49:34
Speaker 1: joining us to Nika and James Bolt. We'll catch up
49:37
Speaker 1: with you next week. Just got a bit of time
49:38
Speaker 1: now to share some of your feedback from what I
49:41
Speaker 1: had to say last night about Anthony Albertezi's overseas trip.
49:44
Speaker 1: Achieving very little, Peter, says Albo and Jody just had
49:47
Speaker 1: an eleven day honeymoon at our expense is the way
49:52
Speaker 1: Peter's described it, and Dwayne says, note in PM's diary,
49:57
Speaker 1: thanks for the holiday Australia. Plenty of selfies with important
50:01
Speaker 1: people and I went shopping in Abu Dhabi. And this
50:05
Speaker 1: one here from Scott says, can someone remove this clown
50:09
Speaker 1: from power please? He's a total national embarrassment. Tell us
50:13
Speaker 1: what you really think, Scott, and another viewer says, no wonder.
50:17
Speaker 1: Nigel Farage is frustrated with our boy, and most of
50:20
Speaker 1: Australia is too bring on an election now, but we
50:24
Speaker 1: just had an election. We might like to have another
50:27
Speaker 1: one now, but it's nearly three years off, so you'd
50:30
Speaker 1: have to wait for that one. That's all the time
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Speaker 1: I got for you tonight. Check in a quick commercial
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Speaker 1: break here and we'll be back with Peter Quedlin up next.
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Speaker 1: See you tomorrow night