Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Danny Bedingfield: AI in education expert on teachers using AI to mark school work
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Education Minister Erica Stanford announcing that school exam marking will
- 0:03Speaker 1: be aided by the use of AI, taking the responsibility
- 0:07Speaker 1: away from teachers. Are we opening a can of worms here?
- 0:10Speaker 1: Danny Beddingfield is a learning development an AI specialist at
- 0:14Speaker 1: Cyclone Computer Company, joining us this morning.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Danny, good morning, Oh, good morning, How are you good?
- 0:19Speaker 1: Thank you? Would you trust AI to mark your kids' exams?
- 0:25Speaker 2: In a nutshell?
- 0:26Speaker 1: No?
- 0:26Speaker 2: No. Look, I do a lot of work with alongside
- 0:29Speaker 2: teachers and businesses around the use of AI, and there's
- 0:31Speaker 2: a lot of really great things that it can do
- 0:33Speaker 2: to save us time. But I've got real concerns around
- 0:37Speaker 2: transparency and around ethical use of AI, particularly the privacy
- 0:41Speaker 2: area as well, And I just feel like using it
- 0:44Speaker 2: to mark student work is really crossing a barrier that
- 0:47Speaker 2: we don't want to go to.
- 0:48Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? Because in my mind, I mean,
- 0:51Speaker 1: there's things like maths and science presumably be pretty straight
- 0:54Speaker 1: up and down English. Maybe if there's an essay writing competition,
- 0:57Speaker 1: it might not be as as workable, But what are
- 1:01Speaker 1: what's wrong with with AI doing it?
- 1:04Speaker 2: Well? The main the main problem I've got at the
- 1:06Speaker 2: moment is that all the AI sort of tools that
- 1:09Speaker 2: we're using are generally based on overseas data or overseas
- 1:13Speaker 2: large language models, and the problem of that, of course
- 1:15Speaker 2: is they're not based on anything to do with New Zealand,
- 1:17Speaker 2: and New Zealand's a very unique country to buy multicultural situation.
- 1:22Speaker 2: You know, obviously we've got the Treaty of Whitangui and
- 1:24Speaker 2: so on, and all these things are not taken into
- 1:27Speaker 2: consideration in the AI models that we're currently using, so
- 1:30Speaker 2: you know, we'd have to look at developing our own
- 1:32Speaker 2: models in here in Altieroa to make them more suitable
- 1:35Speaker 2: to the data that we're hoping to mark student work.
- 1:38Speaker 2: And then there's the whole idea around transparency with students
- 1:42Speaker 2: and things as well, which is just really really concerned
- 1:44Speaker 2: for me.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Things like maths and science though nothing to do with
- 1:48Speaker 1: the treaty, quite universal and same everywhere.
- 1:52Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, I agree there. But you know we're
- 1:55Speaker 2: using tools right now. You know, you can create forms
- 1:58Speaker 2: and things on most you know, Google and Microsoft tools
- 2:01Speaker 2: that we use in schools that will just simply mark
- 2:04Speaker 2: you know, kind of multi choice questions and things. That's fine,
- 2:06Speaker 2: we don't need AI for that, you know, where they're
- 2:08Speaker 2: going to be using AI is for judging tools or
- 2:11Speaker 2: judging assessments that, as you say, like essays and things
- 2:15Speaker 2: that have a lot more complications within how you judge
- 2:18Speaker 2: whether they are achieved or a mirror or a past
- 2:21Speaker 2: or whatever they're going to come up with with their
- 2:22Speaker 2: new marketing systems.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Okay, Danny, interesting, appreciate your time this morning. Danny Beddingfield
- 2:27Speaker 1: Learning Development and AI special ast a Cyclone computer company.
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