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Diabolical Dilemmas With The Chicks · Two Broke Chicks

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  Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land Always was, always
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  Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Jicks, I'm zal and I'm out and this is
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  Speaker 2: two Broke Chicks to show that shares life lessons and
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  Speaker 2: tips to help make you rich in life. And today
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  Speaker 2: we are in for a juicy episode of Dilemmas from
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  Speaker 2: the Chicks and we've got a very special guest with us,
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  Speaker 2: Mitch Jury.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I the third broke Chees. Finally, Hey Chicks,
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  Speaker 3: I'm Mitch.
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  Speaker 4: Mitch. It has a ring to it.
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  Speaker 1: No, no more radio for you.
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  Speaker 3: Into my brain. Radio God, would you guys ever do
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  Speaker 3: radio if you had offers from radio networks?
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  Speaker 1: Sure, we've definitely chatted about it, but like, I just
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  Speaker 1: have this fear rooted inside of me that like I
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  Speaker 1: just don't have a filter, that I don't think i'd
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  Speaker 1: be good at it. And there's also a se is
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  Speaker 1: it seven or seventy seven seven?
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  Speaker 3: So you don't know, you don't actually by the time,
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  Speaker 3: the producer's job to be like yes, or if pressure
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  Speaker 3: on buttons, like I would press my own button, so
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  Speaker 3: I would be fine because I'd be like fuck, oh shit,
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  Speaker 3: But then you'd like double fuck because you'd say yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and then you have to double back, so then you
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  Speaker 3: have to press the button. But then once you press
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  Speaker 3: that button, it cuts that delay. So you're live live,
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  Speaker 3: so you can you have to like tiptoe.
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  Speaker 1: Or walk on till you remake back the seven seconds.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and then you go into a song and there's
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  Speaker 3: a magic button you press that slows the song down microscopically,
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  Speaker 3: and over the length of the song, it actually builds
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  Speaker 3: up seven seconds. It's crazy science.
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  Speaker 4: Wow. I love this. I love this Insider t Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but no radio, no more.
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  Speaker 3: Now my podcast, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, because like you, I'm just like you, you just
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  Speaker 1: like me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because in the last week you have launched the Mitch
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  Speaker 2: Jury Chat Show.
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  Speaker 4: I have congratulations.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. It's a lot. Yes, I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I'm the first person to ever start a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: But for the chicks I haven't listened yet, give us
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  Speaker 2: a rundown of the Mitch Cherry Chat.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So the Mitch Cheery Chat Show. I've been
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  Speaker 3: describing it like call her Daddy meets Graham Norton. So
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  Speaker 3: I love chat shows, late night, I love Conan Letterman,
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  Speaker 3: Rove Live. I grew up on that stuff. And I've
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  Speaker 3: been in radio for so long, and I've interviewed so
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  Speaker 3: many pop stars and actors and comedians, and I love
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  Speaker 3: that part of my job. But the nature of radio
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  Speaker 3: is you'd get a six minute slot or a nine
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  Speaker 3: minute slot, and then you'd edit it down to three
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  Speaker 3: or four minutes. Then you'd play a song, another song,
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  Speaker 3: six minutes of ads, and then you play another four
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  Speaker 3: minute chunk. And it was so informal. And then the
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  Speaker 3: content that I was watching was the Alex Coopers and
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  Speaker 3: shows like you guys in long form content. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: why don't I have to make it myself? And there's
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  Speaker 3: also a gap in the Aussie market, like there is
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  Speaker 3: no real chat show in this country. It's crazy when
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  Speaker 3: you think about it. The project was the only destination
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  Speaker 3: on Channel ten that's gone.
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  Speaker 1: There's no Rove.
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  Speaker 3: So this is my little way of making it and
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  Speaker 3: doing notes to the format. Yeah, we're a little a tie.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a chat show desk, We've built a set.
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  Speaker 3: I have a door that guests can come in and
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  Speaker 3: out of a faux door. It's so stupid to kick
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  Speaker 3: it in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you chick sent in your diabolical dilemmas and
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  Speaker 2: we thought who better to get on to help give
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  Speaker 2: another perspective. But you, Mitch, because you've interviewed everyone, You've
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  Speaker 2: had conversations with, like everyone you could imagine, and so
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you're going to be able to give
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  Speaker 2: a really good, fresh perspective.
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  Speaker 4: On some of these dilemmas.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm ready, But you're ready to chat? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean that's what you do.
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  Speaker 2: But before we get into it, we like to start
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  Speaker 2: with a life lesson of the week, so it can
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  Speaker 2: be silly, serious, whatever you like.
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  Speaker 4: But would you like to kick us off?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, so my life lesson?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I learned this week that I should not skip
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  Speaker 3: my fiber because I did and I was backed up
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  Speaker 3: and we were talking about this before the mics went on.
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  Speaker 3: I'm such a smoothie boy and I need to have
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  Speaker 3: my fiber in it and I have. Okay, here's the hack.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want the combo You've got a witches You'll
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  Speaker 3: love this hubble bubble toy of trouble. So I do
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  Speaker 3: my little smoothie every morning. It's protein powder too, scoops.
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  Speaker 3: Then I do soluble fiber. That's the hack. Benefiber, which
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  Speaker 3: melts away. But then you add cilium husk, which is
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  Speaker 3: like it's like jelly, it's like bird seed trill, like
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  Speaker 3: I feel like a finch. And then and then add
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  Speaker 3: the fiber, and then you add a scuba chea seeds
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  Speaker 3: and that concoction.
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  Speaker 1: And what does that taste like.
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  Speaker 3: Mitch, you can't taste it. That's the benefit.
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  Speaker 4: You're alive.
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  Speaker 3: No way that tastes good.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, what's your life now? My life?
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  Speaker 1: Lesson of the week is Okay, everyone knows that I
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  Speaker 1: am the biggest fan of The Vampire Diaries. Oh yes,
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  Speaker 1: And this week Nina do Brev, who plays Elena or
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  Speaker 1: who played Elana on The Vampire Diaries, revealed that she
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  Speaker 1: quit the show due to a pay gap with Ian
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  Speaker 1: Summer Holders and Paul Wesley, who played Stephan and Damon,
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  Speaker 1: and they were paid more than she was. I know.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 1: Nina do Brev said that Candice King, Kat Graham, and
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  Speaker 1: I were the three lowest paid series regulars in the
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  Speaker 1: first two seasons. She points out that although her contract
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  Speaker 1: specified only playing Elena, she actually played multiple characters like Catherine,
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  Speaker 1: which doubled her workload and she had to be on
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  Speaker 1: set for double the amount of time and memorized double
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  Speaker 1: the amount of lines. I wanted to play Catherine, but
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be compensated fairly for that and I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be equal to the boys. Ultimately, she never
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  Speaker 1: received full pay. Parody with Ian Summerholder and Paul Wesley, that's.
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  Speaker 2: So far because she's one of the main characters of
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  Speaker 2: that show, is.
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  Speaker 4: The main like the three of their mother, it follows.
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  Speaker 2: It, She's the point in their love triangle.
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  Speaker 1: And so basically they then ended up killing off Catherine,
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  Speaker 1: which was one of the characters she played, because they
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to pay her more. Wow, and she left
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  Speaker 1: the show at the end of season six, but she
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  Speaker 1: returned for the finale, which sucked her and she did Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: so Elena her character, the main character. They ended up
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  Speaker 1: writing her off by putting her into like a comaye
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  Speaker 1: so that like, if she wanted to come back, she could.
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  Speaker 1: But when I saw that, I was flabbergasted because I
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  Speaker 1: was like, don't ever try and tell me that the
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  Speaker 1: gender pay gap doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, also on a show as big as that, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's shocking.
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  Speaker 1: And she like there's more details to it, saying that
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  Speaker 1: you know you normally can't renegotiate your contract until like
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  Speaker 1: the third season or things like that, And that's what
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  Speaker 1: those was. But she still never achieved that like equal pay.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, but the thing is that she should
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  Speaker 2: have not been getting equal pay.
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  Speaker 4: She should have been getting paid more than that.
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  Speaker 1: That's the tea.
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  Speaker 2: That is the tea juicy and disappointing. My life lesson
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  Speaker 2: switching gears is a wholesome one. And it's something that
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  Speaker 2: I learned this week called collective effer vescence.
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  Speaker 4: Have you heard of this?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody? I really like the word vesce.
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  Speaker 4: Like ama I met yeah, bubbles, why not?
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 2: It's a sociological concept first defined by Emil Durkheim, but
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  Speaker 2: it refers to the intense emotional energy and sense of
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  Speaker 2: unity experience when a group of people participate in a
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  Speaker 2: shared event or ritual. So you know when you're at
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  Speaker 2: a concert and everybody's like swaying their arms together all
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  Speaker 2: like at your podcast launch and we all had our
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  Speaker 2: phones out for your Coldplay moment, or like if you're
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  Speaker 2: at a parade and you're like watching something with a
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  Speaker 2: like a.
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  Speaker 5: Concert like radio gager Yes Goo go yes, and that
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  Speaker 5: intense emotional feeling and you get like goose bumps, and
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  Speaker 5: you feel connected with people who you've never met and
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  Speaker 5: you don't know it, and you might not even be
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  Speaker 5: able to see them because you're in a huge stadium.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that is so beautiful, and it's one
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  Speaker 2: of those things that in the moment you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: like it's such like a sense of euphoria.
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  Speaker 4: But like, I never knew that it had a term
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  Speaker 4: for it.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes I find that if I can pinpoint a
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  Speaker 2: term or a phrase on a feeling like that, it
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  Speaker 2: helps me be more present, because as I'm feeling it,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be.
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  Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, like this is it?
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  Speaker 2: Collect But yes, I thought that was a nice, lit,
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  Speaker 2: wholesome one. So should we get into our dilemmas.
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  Speaker 1: Our dilemma Number one scream worthy friend of a decade
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  Speaker 1: ditching my wedding. There's always a wedding.
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  Speaker 4: There's always a wedding.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go okay, Hey, Garlely would love to hear your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on this. My friend of a decade, uni together,
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  Speaker 1: traveled overseas and interstate, multiple trips together, lived together, has
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  Speaker 1: decided not to come to my wedding. I've been with
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  Speaker 1: my partner for seven years, and our wedding is coming
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  Speaker 1: up next year. She was one of the first few
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  Speaker 1: to find out we were engaged and one of the
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  Speaker 1: first receive her save the date in aprox. Six months
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  Speaker 1: ago in person approximately six months ago. She knows I'm
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a fairytale kind of girl who has
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  Speaker 1: always daydreamed about my wedding and knows it's an important
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  Speaker 1: thing to me. To my knowledge, she has no issue
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  Speaker 1: with my partner, angel of a man by all reports
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  Speaker 1: and well loved by her also as our resident handyman
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  Speaker 1: boy energy for our girl house. Back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: I heard via my maid of honor that she couldn't
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  Speaker 1: make my hens as she is returning from a trip
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  Speaker 1: for her new boyfriend's thirtieth day off where in different
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  Speaker 1: states could come the next day. But totally understand shit
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  Speaker 1: is expensive, etc. I can, of course forgive the hens
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  Speaker 1: not an issue. I recently got a long text describing
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  Speaker 1: a clash of dates. She is off on a holiday
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  Speaker 1: with now Boo to a country she has been to
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  Speaker 1: at least four times, one of these occasions with me.
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  Speaker 1: She has obviously had to book leave and flights, etc.
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  Speaker 1: For this trip. Hence acknowledging the date of said trip.
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  Speaker 1: I reiterate she has had my save the date for
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  Speaker 1: six months, very much preceding the planning of this trip.
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  Speaker 1: She says she's sad to miss my day, but will
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  Speaker 1: be thinking of me. I was super upset at the time,
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  Speaker 1: feeling like a close friend had basically just said fuck
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  Speaker 1: you to our years of friendship. And I feel that
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  Speaker 1: some things you just need to show up for your friends.
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  Speaker 1: I know I will feel her absence on the day too.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't really leave any leeway for a potential change
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  Speaker 1: of holiday dates, any plan to meet in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: She also offered me space and basically shut the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing down. And we haven't spoken since we deaf aren't
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  Speaker 1: as close as we were when we lived together, and
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  Speaker 1: in being in different states always makes it harder. But
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  Speaker 1: I will always consider her a close friend. I guess
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  Speaker 1: I just feel a bit at a loss. Is this
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  Speaker 1: a friendship over moment? Is that being dramatic over a
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  Speaker 1: day that is, of course more important to me than anyone.
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  Speaker 1: Is there an acceptable path to reconciliation?
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  Speaker 3: Help me? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: First things first, I will say, and I will also
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  Speaker 2: acknowledge that we do typically tend to have a bias
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  Speaker 2: towards a person that's riding in because you do.
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  Speaker 4: Get their perspective.
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  Speaker 2: But she does sound very self aware, like the fact
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  Speaker 2: that she's addressed that I know that my wedding day
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  Speaker 2: is the most important day to me. It's not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: as important to everybody else. Also, I have been daydreaming
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  Speaker 2: of my wedding. It's important to me.
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  Speaker 4: And that she was didn't like, kick up a stink
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  Speaker 4: about the hand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's the first thing at the start when
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  Speaker 1: she said I've always wanted a fairy tale wedding and
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  Speaker 1: it's always been my dream and the most important day
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  Speaker 1: to me, I was like, that can sometimes show up
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  Speaker 1: as red flack, yeah, because I'm like But then she
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  Speaker 1: saved herself when she went, I know it's only important
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  Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, like that more to me than anyone else.
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  Speaker 3: But what do you think, I don't know, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I was thinking. The point that stuck out to
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  Speaker 3: me is when she said she doesn't have a problem
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  Speaker 3: with my partner. But do you think maybe she's one
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  Speaker 3: of those people that don't see that a lot of
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  Speaker 3: their friends don't actually like their partner. That friend who
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  Speaker 3: has a partner that we really can't stand or just
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  Speaker 3: don't like for whatever reason, but we're so polite we
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  Speaker 3: don't say anything. Yeah, and that partner always says, no
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  Speaker 3: one has a problem with Brian, and everyone loves Brian. Brian.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, no one fucking likes Brian. So I wonder
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  Speaker 3: if she's got a Brian, And maybe that's it, because
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  Speaker 3: I can't otherwise. The only option is that that they've
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  Speaker 3: fallen out of friendship and maybe she is still as
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  Speaker 3: connected more connected. I mean, there's no other option. Really.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing is, like I have a best friend
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  Speaker 1: that lives into state, right and she's getting married in
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  Speaker 1: the next year, and there is no way in hell
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  Speaker 1: that I would book an overseas trip on the date
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  Speaker 1: of her wedding.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like there is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think unless like the partner had done something
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  Speaker 2: to you where you have had like some sort of
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  Speaker 2: issue together or you know, maybe I can also understand
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  Speaker 2: if like the partners like doesn't treat you know, your friend, well, yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and you're like, well, I don't want to go because
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to be saying that I am.
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  Speaker 4: Like condoning this union. Like I could understand that, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Think it's anyone's position to be condoning anything.
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  Speaker 3: And to support your friends, yes, but also relationships are
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  Speaker 3: this huge sum of so many moments with a couple,
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  Speaker 3: and friends only really get these micro moments. We don't
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  Speaker 3: know how deeply in love they are. That we're there
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  Speaker 3: to celebrate their moment and you're there to celebrate the
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  Speaker 3: connection that you have. So I think it's a dog
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  Speaker 3: act for sure. If it was a destination wedding, different.
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  Speaker 2: Difference, or even if the holiday was pre booked prior
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  Speaker 2: to the holiday was already booked, then I would understand.
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  Speaker 2: But even then I would be like, Okay, well, what
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  Speaker 2: can I do here? Can I bring forward dates? Can
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  Speaker 2: I shift? Can I move? Can I do something to
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  Speaker 2: try to make it work? But it just doesn't sound
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  Speaker 2: like she's well she said she didn't offer anything to
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  Speaker 2: try and meet in the middle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but also go to the wedding like wedding.
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  Speaker 1: Her saying I'm going to give you space is odd.
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  Speaker 4: She also sent this over text, Oh yeah, that's good.
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  Speaker 3: That's brutal.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like she's just like I thing happened
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  Speaker 1: that maybe this chick that's writing in has missed because
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  Speaker 1: you know how sometimes like a friend can be upset
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  Speaker 1: about something and they haven't said anything, and then you're
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  Speaker 1: kind of living in la la land where you think
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  Speaker 1: everything's all gravy baby, and because like if that was me,
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  Speaker 1: which never would be, but if that was me, I
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  Speaker 1: would be so scared of this friend being mad at
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  Speaker 1: me that I would be like one saying it over
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  Speaker 1: the phone. And I'm not giving anyone's space. I need
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  Speaker 1: to reconcile if you're mad at me right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, I am curious to hear what you
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  Speaker 1: guys would do, because it's very she doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: lose this friendship. So what's the next step.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's exhausting. It's your wedding. You can't worry about
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  Speaker 3: this one friend that won come because that'll consume you.
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  Speaker 3: It's your day. I think she has to move on.
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  Speaker 3: There's no other choice.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I think cut your losses with this particular circumstance and
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  Speaker 2: leave that. But I think that after the wedding once
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  Speaker 2: ever everything you know, you've had your special day, you
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  Speaker 2: have your beautiful memories with the people who made the
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  Speaker 2: effort to go. You can catch up with this friend
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  Speaker 2: and potentially say like, I really wish that you could
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  Speaker 2: have been there, But also I think that you probably
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  Speaker 2: can't count on this friend.
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  Speaker 4: To be that person that they were there for you when.
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  Speaker 2: You live together. I think that chapter of your friendship
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  Speaker 2: is over. I don't think you have to if you
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  Speaker 2: still value this person and you still want to be
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  Speaker 2: their friend, you don't have to end the friendship over this.
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  Speaker 2: But I wouldn't be putting like going above and beyond
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  Speaker 2: for this friendship?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah anymore?
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  Speaker 1: Am I naive to think that? Like, because I like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a very hard on my sleeve person and like
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  Speaker 1: every emotion I feel, everyone else knows about it to
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: be like is there harm in like just being honest
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: and being like, I'm really disappointed. I really would have
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: loved you to be there. Is there any way you
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: can move? Oh?
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: That's hard, But what are you going to get from that? Like?
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: What will she get from that? Her at the wedding
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: and then she feels guilty that.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: She's or you'd be like cool, I have to strong
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: arm you to be here, or.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: The friend goes no, I'm going to BALI you know
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: that's worse, and then you hate her even more Yeah,
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think you can do that.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I think that like giving people the opportunity to make
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: the right choice, But then again, we also haven't heard
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the other person's perspective of what's the right choice. Yeah.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: But also I'm a firm believer in when people show
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: you who they are, believe them. You know, Like, I'm
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: not going to sit here, and I've spent I'm such
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: a people pleaser. I've spent so many years of my
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: life trying to please other people, even when they're in
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: the wrong. It's bad. I'm trying to get out of
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: this habit. So I don't think she should sit there
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: and beg and grovel and ask and beg for her
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: to come to her wedding. She's already told her how
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: she feels. She's clearly not.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: She has made the choice and given her two opportunities
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: to show up and be part of her wedding, whether
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: it's via the hands or on the wedding day.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: And also she found out via the maid of honor.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: That's another thing that's brutal.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: You don't need this going that's true.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: And you know what, exactly what you said before. It
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: is your day, and there are always going to be
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: people that that you want your wedding that can't come
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: to your wedding. Yeah, and focus on the fact that
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: you know you're marrying the love of your life.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Weddings a chaotic. I went to last dim Oh
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: my god. It was so and I was the MC
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: and it was so juicy.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I love nothing more than being a wedding with no
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: steaks for me, like a friend, not like a sister
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: or a cousin. It's it's a wedding that has no
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: stakes for you. So the drama is pure.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: It's entertainment.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: I'm watching a show and stand I'm like, this is
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: for me. This is so entertaining. I love like the
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: dynamics and a divorced family and then and sometimes an
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: excess there and I'm like, why the exit with a
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: new partner? Like I live for wedding drama.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: It's so juicy and everybody looks so fabulous, which I.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: So good. Okay, Well, best wishes, chickah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: And have a beautiful wedding day, Like take it in,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: leave this drama behind you, and just soak in all
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: of the other beautiful people and relationships that you're around you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: All right, Okay, hit me next dilemma. Hey, Chikis and
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Mitchy firstly want to say love the pod and also
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: can't wait for the live show.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: We always laugh that we.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Still include those parts. They're not essential to the story,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: but we never see it.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: That you need them. And can I say congratulations girls
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: that it is so hard little peak behind the curtain
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: the for the audience, but it's so hard to organize
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: something like that. So props to you that that takes
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: a real strong audience and that takes a lot of
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: brain power. What you guys have built is incredible. As
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: a new podcaster watching you, that's like, oh my god, Mama, mama, mother.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know why I just gested grabbing twos.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And two giant foods.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I was going, yeah, no, that's right, that's right.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: So I have a dilemma. This is a long one.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Strap in.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: So my partner and I have been in a relationship
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: coming up five years now, let's call him Joe. I
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: work full time and so does Joe. However, he earns
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: less money than I do. We both bought houses a
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: few years back and love it that way because it
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: gives us more options down the track. Slave Eventually we
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: plan on having a family and getting a place together
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: in joint names. My place is worth more than his
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: and is in a different town away from where we
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: both work. We currently live in Joe's house, although it's
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: in a sketchy area, but.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Is bigger and better than his. Joe's got a small,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: tiny dick, and also he's kind of ugly. Does she
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: like Joe?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Joe?
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: No?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I actually love this way.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, We currently live in Joe's house, although it's in
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: a sketchy area, but the bills and mortgage is cheaper here,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: both a win and a loss. We have always said
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: we wouldn't want to raise a family in the house
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: we live in now Joe's house because of the area
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: it's in, but unfortunately also couldn't justify living in my
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: house because it's too far away to travel each day
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: for work, and also he's ugly. Bears, It's kind of
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: continuing this way. Joe earns less money than I do
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: by about twelve to fourteen dollars per hour and doesn't
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: have the option of weekend work or overtime like I do.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I have been trying to squirrel this chick is giving
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: capricorn in the best way. I have been trying to
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: squirrel a side money into my savings account for down
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: the track when we want to have a family and
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I need to go on maternity leave. Smart living off
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: one income is hard enough, and especially at the moment
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: with the increased cost of living, et cetera. Not to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: mention the fact that we have two mortgages, even though
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: mine has a rental tenets in it. Okay, so I
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: feel like in a few years we will really struggle
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: when I go on maternity leave and we have to
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: live on Joe's wage. Joe still puts money aside for savings, however,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: not as much as I do, purely due to the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: fact that I earn more than he does, so I
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: can afford to chip in water savings. I've tried to
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: talk to him about getting another job because of the
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: money side of things, etc. But he likes his current
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: job and doesn't want to leave just yet. I mentioned
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the maternity leave discussions and worries, and he said, we
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: will work it out when we get to that point.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Why don't men plan like us women do?
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Slap Joe spoke to his boss slash workplace about a
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: possible pay rise given the cost of living, pressures, etc.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: And since he hasn't gotten a pay rise at all
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: since he started seven years ago. Oh you got a
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: few months on Joe mentioned he was getting a pay rise,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: although when it finally came through, the pay rise only
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: works out to be another forty to fifty dollars per
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: week after tax.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: It's so rough.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I know, me going on maternity leave is a couple
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: of years off happening, but I can't help but stress
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: about money and also being stuck with a child in
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: a house where I don't want to be, in a
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: sketchy neighborhood. I don't want to say it's all about
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: me and let's live in my house because it's better,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: because that would mean more money out the window for
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: the cost of mortgage and bills.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Still trying to live off my partner's crappy wage.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, But then the other negative would mean my
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: partner would have to drive an hour and a half
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to work one way, which is unrealistic especially on travel costs,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: less time at home with me and the future baby,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: which just adds to the stress load. My partner, Joe
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: is a very traditional type guy and is very much
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: in the mindset of I'm the man and I should
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: provide for my family. But I just don't know how
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: to tell him that won't be possible if he stays
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: at the job he is in, especially given he got
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: his first pay rise in seven years and realistically won't
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: get another one before we have a family. He was
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: offered another job with slightly more pay a few months ago, however,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: turned it down because he liked the job he was
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: in and it was closer to our house currently. And
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: when he told me he declined that offer, I felt
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: very bummed deep down, of.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Course, but of course supported his decision.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Should I suck it up and continue to save money
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: and stay where we are for Matt leave down the track,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: dipping into my savings to get by with the hope
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: that once we have a baby who is like one
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to two years old, we will have saved enough to
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: buy our forever home, which is ultimately the goal.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: How do I go about this? What do I do? Please?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Help? Oh?
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: My wow, holy shit?
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've got many thoughts. But I also want
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: to cock myself because I don't want to be defending
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: the man. Because she's a girl boss. I love her totally.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I go for it.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Every single thing that she has raised is a very
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: real concern.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: And I actually love that she is being.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: So pregnant, standing and practical and like and not being like, oh,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: we're going to.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Have a baby and it's going to be so cute,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: and like she's.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Actually absolutely a Capricorn or a Virgo one thousand percent
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and out in my mind, I need to know we're
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: going to email her back and ask that.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that being said, it's not like he's a slob
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and he's not trying. He asks for a pay rise,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the company's not given him a pay rise. He can't
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: be expected then to change your job to then travel
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: one point five hours. I get it. It's hard, But
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: they're in a relationship. It sounds like they're a great couple.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Sounds like she really loves him. It's something they're going
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: to have to work out together. And it also sounds
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: like perhaps she's going to have to open the avenues
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: of communication a little more. She's going to have to
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: talk to him because a this will fester and will
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: cause way more issues. And if they're wanting kids and
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: they're already talking about kids, it's gonna be a problem. Two,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: they're in a really solid position both having houses and
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: what she says, by the beach and has.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, just a shack.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Literally the apartment I'm renting.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, fuck your Joe. So I wrote it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: It's a tough situation. But she's gonna have to talk
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: to him because they're in a relationship. It's no fault
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: of Joe's. He's not a lazy slob. He's not gaming
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: in his undias like he sounds like he's putting in
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: the works. You're a couple of year union sort it out,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: like you have to work it out together.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And you do have to have those hard conversations, which
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: there's just going to be more of that, especially once
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: you have kids.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, if.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: You can't have those uncomfortable conversations, you're putting a limit
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: on how much you're trusting your relationship and how much
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: it can become stronger, because every time you have those
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: hard conversations and you come out the other side of it,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it enriches your relationship rather than like turns it away.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's the right relationship, for sure.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: And I do think though that it will come to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a point that like Joe has to make a choice
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: because if Joe wants kids, like this is a partnership
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and like from the sounds of it, the pay that
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: they're on wouldn't support a family. Yeah, so like if
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: they want a family, it does mean that potentially something
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: would have to change.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the thing is is that she'll be the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: one making the sacrifice with her career to matanity leave
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: and take care of the baby. So I do think
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: that is something that they need to discuss together.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: But also they need to have a conversation.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Around his ideals and values that he wants to be
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the traditional man and the breadwinner and whatnot. Because I
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: also think that that is part of this conversation that
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't want to address fully because it kind
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: of makes him feel insecure about his masculinity. But it's like,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, I just don't think that that's I
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: understand if you want to provide for your family, of course,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: but like that should be an equal thing that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Both of you value.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I feel like you both should kind of take care
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: of your family a little bit.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Did she say she was the only person contributing to
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: her maternity leave savings? She's able to put away more savings,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: but he's still contributing to it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: He's putting away his separate they both have separate savings,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I believe, so yeah, but he's she's able to put
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: away more purely because she works more, and also because
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: she said she has the option for overtime.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, as long as he's also contributing to that maternity
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: league savings as well. Like that shouldn't just be her.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: But I think you hit the nail on the head
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: at the start. I think like that hard conversation needs
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. But you know they're in a
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: good position, Like if you really want to be with
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: this guy and you love him and you're a good couple,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: then sell one of your properties. You know, you've got
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: your properties privilege. So many people, so many young people
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: can barely pay the rent, let alone pay more your
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: payments on two properties. She also said she's got renters
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: paying money, so she's I don't know if it's negatively
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: good or now it sounds like we're really going into finance.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know how she set up financially. I know
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I was trying to give chat show host, but I'm
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: just giving on Friday. I think they need to have
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: a chat. They could sell one of their properties, like,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: there's got many options. Yeah, it sounds like she does
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: love him, but you know what, so many people are
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: in this situation financially, Like I want her to know
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: if she's listening, you're not. It can feel when you're
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: in this that it's it's happening to you exclusively, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: when you've also got your five year ten year plan
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: laid out, especially with kids, it can start to feel daunting.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: But so many people, especially in this country, are going
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: through this exact thing right now, so it's very very
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: like relatable.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she did ask is this something that I
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: should wait and hold on to until we have a
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: child who's maybe one or two years old, and then
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: we look at moving and buying out over home. But
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I think you still need to have the conversation now,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: because once you have kids, you're only going to have
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: more and more responsibilities and expenses and also ties to
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: where you live based on whatever that is. Even if
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: it's just like, oh, well we've got our gp and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: they know the baby and like all of those things,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I think only get harder and harder to make those decisions.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: You have way less flexibility so can I also.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Say, like, it's really sexy to have a partner who's ambitious.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: It's really hot to know that your partner has a
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: plan and your partner wants more money. It's hot. My
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: partner is in health and has a full plan and
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: a full trajectory and is only just straight out of
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: UNI study working full time, and he's on a certain
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: pay level as you can expect coming out of union
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: working in health Allied health. But there's a full plan
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: and a trajectory and ways forward to get there, and
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: you can ambition ambition, Yeah, thank you, Yes, And I
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: find that really attractive rather than I've been I've been
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: with someone in the past who is a great deal
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: of anxiety for them where they would go or how
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: they'd work, or they didn't want to ask for ay
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: your eyes or a crippled and it's unattractive. So I'm
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: not trying to I'm not trying to judge Joe, but
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: in a relationship, especially when you want kids down the
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: track like it can, it can make or break some couples.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: You know, it's not as simple as as it sounds.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely check.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: We'll send you a fifty dollars gift card for reading
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: out your story online.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Hopefully that helps.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Exactly that sounds. Money woves sorted toware wherever they want out.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Okay our next one. Hey, ladies, can't wait for your
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Melbourne Live show. I could send three emails of all
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the drummers and small hiccups I'm having trying to move
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: in my new place and out of my old one,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: but this one is a shout out to some of
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: my ride or dies. What would Jess and Jemima do?
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Okakay love this subject. Lise w w JJD doing a
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: lease transfer into the new place, so I was contacted
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: by the girl whose room I would be taking over.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I got a text from the girl whose room I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: would be taking over from asking for the rent money
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: as the agent was slow to do the paperwork and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: had marked up all the names of people coming and going,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: and the next month's rent had been deducted from her account.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: In the text, she also asked for the bond. I said,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair that I pay the rent and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: not the bond, as we haven't seen any paperwork yet
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: for the bond transfer and the lease is still incorrect.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: She questioned bond transfer, I said, we haven't even signed
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the lease yet, let alone seen discuss the bond transfer yet.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: In the stream of emails, I asked her, do you
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: have the bond transfer? She said, no, we don't have one.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: We just transfer the amount to whomever is moving out.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I said no, sorry, I sent you the rent, but
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I won't be sending the bond until we have the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: bond transfer. What I'm assuming is that's the paperwork. Yeah,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: she said, we don't do it like that. I said, sorry,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: but that's not the legal way really, and if something
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: goes wrong or the owners want to sell the house,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I don't get that money back because of my name
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: isn't on the bond. Her next reply was pissy. I
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: apologized and said I'll email the agent now to get
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: it sorted. Please don't think I'm not going to pay
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you the bond. I was then left on red After this,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I called Jess and Jemima that night and told them
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the story and was reassured I was one hundred percent
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: in the right. I felt bad, but I don't know
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the girl. I thought the rent was fair, but not
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the bond until something was signed. If I hadn't asked myself, WWJJD,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I would have paid her everything and caved without signing.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: My mates are tough and agree at saying no and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: knowing what's reasonable and what isn't. Sometimes you have to
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: come across as a bitch to save yourself and do
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the things the legal and right away in the week.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I later learned that the agent had to add people
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: on the bond and take them off again straight away,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: so people hadn't been doing the bond transfers in the past,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and the agent had to backtrack previous tenants so their
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: paperwork look legit. God Jesus, what a rollercoaster. Yeah, so, yeah,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent, you need to be having the paperwork
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: for that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with people that you don't know, like I
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: even think with friends and stuff like that, with bond
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: transfers and leases like money like that, it can get
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: really messy. But with a complete stranger who you don't know, like,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: absolutely do all the right things and do all of
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the official channels and legal channels.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: So that would make me so much more comfortable being
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: a bitch if I didn't know that person. Yeah, Like,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: I'm such a bit honk in my horn like driving
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: and I'm so bad in traffic. I'm so rude. But
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: if I knew that person, I'd be like completely changes
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: howe Like I could never do that. I find it
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: really hard to assert myself with friends and family, but
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: with strangers it can be easier. So I'm glad she
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: did that. Especially with money. I feel like a lot
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: of young people, I don't know what it is, maybe
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: because in high school and Australia we only had those
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Commonwealth dollarmite things check books, Like no one taught us
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: how to be money literate. Yeah, but that kind of conversation,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I feel is so common and it's so easy to
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: be walked all over. So she did the right thing.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Had like a horror housemate story.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Oh so yeah. One of my exes that I lived
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: with for a long time five years, we split up
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: and it was really messy and we had this gorgeous
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: house right around this quarter from the studios actually, and
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: there was a bad ending and he was not good.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: So I was like, you are paying the lease, a
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: break of lease you, we're going to get the bum back,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: We're going to split it. You sort it out because
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: you've caused the end of this relationship. And I left
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: and that was it. I didn't do anything.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Well, the reason you have to break the lease is
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: because they broke the relationship one, they broke the rules.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Of the relationship. Yeah, but it is overwhelming and like
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: the whole submitting of bills and bank details and it's stressful,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Like you're either I don't know how you were you
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: guys faught. But I fall on the side of money
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: and finances being a real issue for me, Like I
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: struggle with it.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're both not like natural money savvy queens. Like
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: it's something that we have that I feel like even
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: through the show, we've learnt so much more and realized
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that when it does come to those sorts of things.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I think when we were in our early twenties, we
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: would have been like, oh, no, I don't want to
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: cause a face or whether it was with a friend
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: or with the stranger, and now we'd just be like no,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: like we've got we've got the procedures in place that
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: are meant to be followed for a reason, and that's
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: really frustrating with the like the people that they're renting through.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And also that the goal on that
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: random girl, yeah, to ask that, but she was also
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: being sneaking in and of itself.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think as well, what's probably happened is that's
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: how she transferred the bond. Yeah, so then she's probably
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: had the realization of, well, fuck, my name's not on
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the bond, so if you don't transfer me, am I
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: going to get my money back because my name's not
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: on it?
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And like how does that work? And like that is
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: how I think my rental apartment did it. When I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: change people, it was like we updated the name and
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: you would transfer directly to the person, but you're you
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: still saw the piece of paper. Yeah, Like and that
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: is the thing of especially I think younger gener and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: especially women, they don't assert themselves in those positions from
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: being intimidated or not wanting to come across as a bitch.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: And it's like, no, you have to be a bitch. Yeah,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you have to put your foot down otherwise you're going
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to end up because what a bond now is four
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: weeks of rent. It's like a month.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: It's expensive, Yes, it's a lot.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: And to not get that bad and to not have
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: any sort of agreement around that is wailed.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: You never get this message from a man. They'd never
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: be like I'm afraid to ask you never would.
• 35:35
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• 35:36
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• 36:07
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