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Adults Cutting Off Their Parents | Stanford Apologizes · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: Neil Saavedra and the morning crew here. Handel's on vacation
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  Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks. Thanks for all the
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  Speaker 1: kind words, by the way, via the... Talkbacks, happy to
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  Speaker 1: be here with you. A lot to get to today.
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  Speaker 1: You know, things change always. Things are in the constant.
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  Speaker 1: They say the only constant is change. But as I
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  Speaker 1: get older, I look around and the things that I
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  Speaker 1: held dear or important to me about the American dream,
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  Speaker 1: like owning a home, seem to be changing. And at
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  Speaker 1: first it was, well, the millennials aren't looking for homes
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  Speaker 1: they want to rent. I was always taught you will
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  Speaker 1: always pay a mortgage. The only choice you have is
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  Speaker 1: to pay your mortgage or someone else's. But that's the reality.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to pay a mortgage. If you're renting, you're
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  Speaker 1: paying off someone else's place. That's the reality. So to me,
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  Speaker 1: when I got that through my head, all I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do is to be able to buy a home.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if I would have gotten there
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  Speaker 1: without my wife. We got married older. We got married
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  Speaker 1: in our 30s, in our later 30s. And I cleaned
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  Speaker 1: up all my credit before I asked for my wife's
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  Speaker 1: hand and worked hard with my brother Daniel, helped me
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  Speaker 1: clean up my credit, clean up all that. I found
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  Speaker 1: out what she had in savings and I matched it.
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  Speaker 1: I made sure I had as much as she did
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  Speaker 1: in the bank when we got married. And with that,
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  Speaker 1: we were able, even though when we got married, we
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  Speaker 1: were both already far along in our careers. We moved
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  Speaker 1: into her 600 square foot apartment or whatever in Hollywood
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  Speaker 1: for two, two and a half years after marriage to
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  Speaker 1: make sure we had everything saved up and we were
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  Speaker 1: ready and we found a house. We fell in love.
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  Speaker 1: Could we afford everything? No, we couldn't stay in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, it was too expensive for us.
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  Speaker 1: So we moved east. We went east into east central
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles and we found a place and we fell
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  Speaker 1: in love with it and we're still there. Now our
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  Speaker 1: son's in love with it. But that was my mentality
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  Speaker 1: was how great is it? We'll be able to own
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  Speaker 1: a home. And I still pinch myself when I walk
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  Speaker 1: into the backyard and it's special to us, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not like it's something special. It's a modest home and
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  Speaker 1: we love it. It's just, it's our home. And that
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  Speaker 1: means something to me. But now you had millennials coming
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  Speaker 1: in there saying, well, it's not worth it to us.
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  Speaker 1: We want to travel more. And I respect that. Traveling, art,
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  Speaker 1: and education are the three things to me that you
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  Speaker 1: could spend money on and it's always worth it. But
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  Speaker 1: now we have financial experts coming out and saying that
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  Speaker 1: it may not be the Holy Grail that we thought
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  Speaker 1: it was. Now, to me, It's paid for itself multiple
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  Speaker 1: times over. We hit right before things got nuts. So
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  Speaker 1: it's continuing to gain in equity. But the sentiment that's
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  Speaker 1: been reinforced all the time, like, hey, you've got to
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  Speaker 1: get real estate to make wealth. Look at everybody. They've
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  Speaker 1: always said people make wealth, obtain wealth through real estate.
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  Speaker 1: But now they're looking at the past decade has been
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  Speaker 1: relatively good for homeowners, according to the Case-Shiller Index. Home
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  Speaker 1: prices increased about 87% from December 2015, which was about
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  Speaker 1: five years after we bought our home, through December 2025.
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  Speaker 1: And that sounds like a lot. But over roughly the
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  Speaker 1: same period, the S & P 500, which isn't like
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  Speaker 1: some crazy, you know, exotic type investment, rose by 235%,
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  Speaker 1: excluding dividends. So although they're not directly comparable, you live
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  Speaker 1: in a home, it gives you other things that sheer
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  Speaker 1: index stocks and stuff like that can't give you, and
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  Speaker 1: tax benefits and ownership and something you can sell differently
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  Speaker 1: and all of these things, they're looking at those numbers
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  Speaker 1: now and saying that it might not be the only
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  Speaker 1: exclusive American dream that you can be going after. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of fascinating. Although to me,
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  Speaker 1: there's something about it. There's something about having a home
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  Speaker 1: that just feels nice to me. Now, could I live
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  Speaker 1: with my family in an apartment? Absolutely. Sometimes we joke
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  Speaker 1: about that. Be nice not to have the weight of
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  Speaker 1: the house sometimes because everything's on you. Everything that happens
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  Speaker 1: is on you. But For now, those numbers may be
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  Speaker 1: a little out of whack and maybe you could be
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  Speaker 1: putting that money into something else. I like to split
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  Speaker 1: the difference and say you're paying off your house. My
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  Speaker 1: wife would rather us pay it off completely, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to own it. And I'm not that guy. I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: if you can borrow, if you can take someone else's
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  Speaker 1: money for two percent and, you know, two and a
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  Speaker 1: half percent or whatever, do that and then take what
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  Speaker 1: you have if there's anything left and put that into
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  Speaker 1: and get best of both worlds. But it's the playing
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  Speaker 1: field is changing, apparently. All right. Twenty something employees. OK,
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  Speaker 1: we've got I don't know what it is, but I
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  Speaker 1: feel like The generations, we were just barely understanding millennials.
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  Speaker 1: Just barely. And you get new and new and new.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're in Gen Z. And apparently, you know,
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  Speaker 1: modern day companies use everything. I guess they've always used things.
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  Speaker 1: I remember the days. where we would take tests as
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  Speaker 1: employees to find out what your strengths were and your
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  Speaker 1: weaknesses were. Mine always came up as strategy, logic. I
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  Speaker 1: think loyalty was in there, something like that, where they
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  Speaker 1: do those testing. Well, now they're using companies, consultants, AI bots.
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  Speaker 1: They're doing all these things. More frequent check-ins to give
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  Speaker 1: Gen Z workers the clear, what they refer to as
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  Speaker 1: real-time direction they crave. So it seems Gen Z and
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  Speaker 1: millennials on the younger end of the spectrum. What's the
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  Speaker 1: older end? 43? 44? Is that like on the older
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  Speaker 1: end of a millennial? I think it's just 40. What's that?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's 40. Oh, yeah, 40? 40? Yeah, somewhere
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  Speaker 1: around there, right? On the older end of the spectrum.
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  Speaker 1: I think my oldest brother is 84, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it started at 83. Gotcha. So then you have the
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  Speaker 1: flip side, the younger crowd. Well, it seems that the
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  Speaker 1: Gen Z and the younger end of the millennial spectrum,
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  Speaker 1: who strongly agree that they know what is expected of
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  Speaker 1: them at work, but don't. That number, that percentage of
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  Speaker 1: Gen Z and younger millennials that strongly agree with the
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  Speaker 1: fact that they know what's expecting of them fell to 42%
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  Speaker 1: in 2025 from 2020. So less than half of that
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  Speaker 1: workforce understands what's expected from them. Bosses are getting no
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  Speaker 1: shortage of feedback on how to give their youngest staffers feedback.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that funny? So now the bosses are getting feedback
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  Speaker 1: on how to give feedback to the younger set. So
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  Speaker 1: what I always thought was I surround myself with opinionated
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  Speaker 1: and honest people. That's the best way you're going to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, could you imagine when having somebody talk to me,
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  Speaker 1: talk down to me or handle me drives me nuts.
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  Speaker 1: I can feel, I can taste it when someone's trying
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  Speaker 1: to handle me. It drives me nuts. Speak clearly to me.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine this is how I feel. If I got into
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  Speaker 1: my car to drive home and all of my mirrors
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  Speaker 1: were funhouse mirrors, that's how I feel when someone's talking
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  Speaker 1: down to me or trying to give it to me straight.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want my mirrors to lie to me either.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know how close that car is. I
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  Speaker 1: want to know in reality what's going on. Say it
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  Speaker 1: to me. So I tend to favor bosses and people
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  Speaker 1: in my life. My wife, oh my God, I love
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  Speaker 1: everything about her. The fact is she does not couch
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  Speaker 1: anything in fakeness. So she doesn't throw around, I love
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  Speaker 1: yous and flowery. When they hit me, they're real. And
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  Speaker 1: occasionally you throw out an I love you and you
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  Speaker 1: get a thank you back. That's the trade-off with someone
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  Speaker 1: who's honest and real. That's the reality. I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I like someone go, when I was working here early
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  Speaker 1: on at KFI, Robin Bertolucci, she brought me back in
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  Speaker 1: the marketing department and it was a love fest. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's great to have you and stuff. And then I
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  Speaker 1: did some project for her. and i gave it to
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  Speaker 1: her and she goes oh this sucks and threw it
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  Speaker 1: back at me and i laughed so hard. Didn't hurt
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  Speaker 1: my feelings, whatever. That lets me know. Okay, this is
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  Speaker 1: not what she wants. None of this, well, hey, if
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  Speaker 1: you could. No, but apparently 20-somethings now want to be
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  Speaker 1: told and coddled, and I don't understand that. So those
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  Speaker 1: leaders who rose through the ranks in an era that was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that effective coaching, that criticism that makes you
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  Speaker 1: want to be better. And it's like, you know, who's
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  Speaker 1: got that is our own beloved Shannon Farron. I've heard
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  Speaker 1: her on multiple panels here with other hosts. And you'll
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  Speaker 1: hear hosts whine about, oh, I worked for this one
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  Speaker 1: PD who was mean or whatever. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: you need to be mean. But Shannon will go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I worked for that person, too, and it made me better. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it hurts sometimes, but they may be better. And I go,
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  Speaker 1: that's what you want. You want that person that pushes you.
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  Speaker 1: And now these 20-something employees, and I have theories about
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  Speaker 1: why all this stuff is going this way, but they
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  Speaker 1: want feedback to be gentle. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: gentle feedback is the best way. I think tough love
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  Speaker 1: has its place. And like I said, when When someone
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  Speaker 1: handles me, I'm like, don't handle me. You know, because
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  Speaker 1: I've had multiple jobs here, you know, in front of
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  Speaker 1: the mic, behind the mic, all those things. Well, don't
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  Speaker 1: treat me like talent. Drives me nuts. Oh, get him
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  Speaker 1: a soda. Get him this. Oh, hey, could you possibly? No,
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  Speaker 1: just say, listen, it's a job, dude. You got to
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  Speaker 1: do this. You got to do that. Don't tiptoe around me.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at you, Handel. It's like just. Just be yourself
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  Speaker 1: and tell me what I need to do and what
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  Speaker 1: you think is best. And if I have a counter argument,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. And that's what makes you grow.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know that a bird can't fly, a shark
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  Speaker 1: can't swim without resistance? They can't. That's the very thing
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  Speaker 1: that gives them the ability to move. And I think
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  Speaker 1: we need it too, to be our best. And if
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  Speaker 1: we keep taking away resistance in life, we take the
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  Speaker 1: very thing that gives us the propulsion to move forward.
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  Speaker 1: Shut up, Kono. All right. More about young folk, it
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  Speaker 1: seems like. And it's not bashing. I know that ultimately
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  Speaker 1: we always look at the new generations and say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's different. Nostalgia is huge. What we went through as
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  Speaker 1: we were growing up doesn't mean that's the only way
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  Speaker 1: or the right way, rather. You know, we think this
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  Speaker 1: is the way it's got to be. But, yeah, there
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  Speaker 1: is something when you love a movie or you love
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  Speaker 1: a food that you want to pass that on to
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  Speaker 1: the next generation. you know, your children. And I really
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  Speaker 1: try and look at my son, Max, as a nine-year-old,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to force my ideals or anything
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  Speaker 1: on him. I kind of want to know who he
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  Speaker 1: is as a person. But there is something when he
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  Speaker 1: likes something that I like that feels nice. It's like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 1: you love a grilled cheese the way I love a
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  Speaker 1: grilled cheese or things like that. But he's his own person, right?
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  Speaker 1: Parenting is difficult for many reasons. We're selfish by nature.
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  Speaker 1: We like things our way. And it's not an easy
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  Speaker 1: task in many ways because you're leading somebody. If nothing else,
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  Speaker 1: you're a rudder in their life. I love being a dad.
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  Speaker 1: I really dig it. I enjoy my son as a
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  Speaker 1: human being and as my son. But there is this,
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  Speaker 1: more and more, there is this kind of pattern of
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  Speaker 1: adults cutting off their parents. I can't remember her name,
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  Speaker 1: but there is a woman online who is brilliant, who
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  Speaker 1: cut off her mom at one point. And as she's
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  Speaker 1: gotten older and gone through therapy, rethought that and now has...
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok and stuff, all these things of
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  Speaker 1: why it's not your parents' fault and why you keep
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  Speaker 1: blaming them for things that are not their fault. We've
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  Speaker 1: kind of come to build generations as a blaming generation,
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  Speaker 1: as victims. It's not me. It's everyone else. It's this thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, capitalism is wrong. And the way you reared
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  Speaker 1: me is wrong, which I always thought was a really
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  Speaker 1: horrible term for raising children. I just reared my children.
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  Speaker 1: Did you, sicko? And I'm learning every day how to
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  Speaker 1: be a better parent. And some of that is through
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  Speaker 1: my child actually telling me what works and what doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: And finding and unmeeting somebody where they're at. Now, again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm an older father. At 57, having a nine-year-old, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not in that selfish stage in the same way I
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  Speaker 1: would have been in my 20s. That's a much harder
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  Speaker 1: gig to do. Now it's like, bro, I've seen some things.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to go down that path. And I
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  Speaker 1: try and explain things differently, try and instill things into
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  Speaker 1: my child. But am I going to do it perfect?
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  Speaker 1: Hell no. Do I use people that are much smarter
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  Speaker 1: than I am and written works and things I hear
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  Speaker 1: from other parents all the time, whether it's scripture itself?
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  Speaker 1: Or a parent who's got an unruly child and threw
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  Speaker 1: some bit of wisdom out my way, I will catch that.
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  Speaker 1: I will tag it. I will put it in my
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  Speaker 1: pocket and use it. But experts believe family estrangement is
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  Speaker 1: rising in the U.S., and I've seen it. Shifting societal norms,
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  Speaker 1: social media, and changing therapy practices, it's not only that.
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  Speaker 1: We used to have that core belief system in our
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  Speaker 1: family where you stayed together because that's where you were
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  Speaker 1: being fed. Now, for better or for worse, we often
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  Speaker 1: just see the changes without understanding what makes those changes.
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  Speaker 1: For instance, a lot of young girls are not sleeping
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  Speaker 1: around the same way. You know why? Because that guy
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  Speaker 1: who used to feed them and their desires for attention
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  Speaker 1: needed to be fed. Sexually, usually. Now they don't have to.
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  Speaker 1: They can put their bodies online and a bunch of people,
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  Speaker 1: men and women, will say how hot they are. And
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  Speaker 1: so now that power is not in the hand of
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  Speaker 1: one guy. That's good. Now that guy can't tell you, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you want this from me? You want these nice words?
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  Speaker 1: You want this love bombing? Well, you got to give
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  Speaker 1: me something for it. So likewise, the parent that would
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  Speaker 1: give praise, the parent that would give that stability, the
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  Speaker 1: parent that would give that tribal necessity to be together
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  Speaker 1: is replaced by a bunch of people who really don't
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  Speaker 1: care about you, but will say the right things. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that we're in a transition stage, which you
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  Speaker 1: don't see the consequences of that yet. And so research
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  Speaker 1: from 2020 shows that 10% of all U.S. population is
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  Speaker 1: estranged from parent or child, while 25% is estranged from
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  Speaker 1: any close relative. And this, you know, psychologists or young
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  Speaker 1: adults are expanding their definition of harmful parental behavior. No,
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  Speaker 1: you're becoming soft. You don't want anybody to push back.
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  Speaker 1: It's easier to have people that don't know you tell
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  Speaker 1: you how great you are and deal with you on
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  Speaker 1: a surface level, they don't care. Then having a parent
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  Speaker 1: who actually does care and has skin in the game.
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  Speaker 1: And we demonize that. And it's a shame. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that ultimately it will be a practice with a
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  Speaker 1: dead end. And we'll see how that ends up going
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  Speaker 1: in the long term. All right. Stanford. Okay, I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to brood about something, how about the
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  Speaker 1: state of colleges that we once thought were incredible? They're auguring.
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  Speaker 1: They are circling the toilet because they can't even take
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  Speaker 1: their own advice. Stanford apologizes for what? An AI altered photo.
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  Speaker 1: What did they alter? The gender and race. of the
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  Speaker 1: people in the photo and their weight, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: and their attractiveness. Apparently, they say that. I thought the
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  Speaker 1: people were attractive on their own. It almost changed an
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  Speaker 1: Asian person, changed the shape of their face, which could
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  Speaker 1: be offensive. There were times in World War II where
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  Speaker 1: Asians were mocked for the shape of their face. It's
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  Speaker 1: like changing the nose or the lips of an African-American.
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  Speaker 1: or the eyes of an Asian person. But here's the rub.
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  Speaker 1: Not only did Stanford do this for their publicity shots
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  Speaker 1: that were real photos, so they altered the photos with AI,
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  Speaker 1: but that is against their very policy. And if you
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  Speaker 1: were to use AI in the class, you could get
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  Speaker 1: penalized for it. Yet they did the very same thing.
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  Speaker 1: And it This story stood out to me, one, as
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  Speaker 1: an artist and who has worked with photos for a
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  Speaker 1: long time. I worked with photo preservation and modification for
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  Speaker 1: a long time prior to using computers, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: We used to use these special watercolor pencils. And you'd
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  Speaker 1: print out, you'd print a large size of the photo.
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  Speaker 1: You would hand modify it. soften certain areas, sharpen certain areas,
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  Speaker 1: and then take a new photo of that. So you
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  Speaker 1: get a negative with the changes. I mean, that's how,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds archaic for somebody who's only 57, but that's
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  Speaker 1: the way we used to do it. So prior to
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  Speaker 1: all this, now I use AI, I use Photoshop, I
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  Speaker 1: use all kinds of things when I have to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I use that for creating 3D images as well. So
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  Speaker 1: Stanford said that the use of AI in this case
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  Speaker 1: to alter the race and appearance of students in a
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  Speaker 1: promotional photo violated its policy and was a serious error
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  Speaker 1: in judgment. You got caught is what happened. The original
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  Speaker 1: photo showed a female student and two male students holding
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  Speaker 1: their plates as they posed for the camera. The altered
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  Speaker 1: image shows one of the male students replaced with an
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  Speaker 1: AI-generated black female student And the two other people in
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: the altered image were made to look noticeably slimmer. Sorry, fatties.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: And they weren't. Not at all. Completely normal in every way,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: shape or form. And then the one guy that got
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: replaced with a black girl is like, yeah, I was
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in that photo. It's like, who's in that photo? You know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it's like a breakup. You ever see someone who went
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: through a breakup and they're like, but that's a really
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: good photo of me. And then you could see on
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: their Facebook or something that there's an arm around them
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and it's cropped out. And you're like, sorry, sorry, bro-ham.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: It's a good picture of me, but we're no longer together.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: So the kid, Billy Ramirez, who is Hispanic, by the way,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: was a student who was removed from the image, according
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to the New York Times. And he's like, This is
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: so sad. To see me erased like that so easily
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: was kind of very upsetting. Yeah. They, you know, he said,
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  Speaker 1: I originally found it kind of hilarious that the school
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: used AI, but then you're like, they took me out
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: of there. How come they took me? Yeah, they took
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: me out. So instead of going, you know what? We're Stanford.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: We're going to go take a picture of our students
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and show you who's here. They have to shuffle the deck. Say, no,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: we need to thin you up, and we need one
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: of those people of color. As many as, well, I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: am a people of color. Not the right one, son. Sorry.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And you know, I've heard stuff like that. Not only
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: have I been called a half-breed before by activists in
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: my other roles here at the station, which is incredibly offensive.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: In Spanish. But you... Those types of things are like...
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: You know, you look at this and you go, shame
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: on you, stupid Stanford. I'm going to call you stupidford. No,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work. But what are you teaching your students?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Go figure that. Another generation... Down the drain because of college.
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