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- 0:00Speaker 1: The information provided in this program is of a general
- 0:02Speaker 1: nature and is not intended to be personalized financial advice.
- 0:05Speaker 1: We encourage you to seek appropriate advice from a qualified
- 0:07Speaker 1: professional to suit your individual circumstances. Fonterra is paying its
- 0:12Speaker 1: second largest dividend in its history. How the dairy cooperative's
- 0:16Speaker 1: finances have changed and how its future will coop And
- 0:19Speaker 1: I think you and I.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Took about a year ago around what was their growth.
- 0:22Speaker 3: Can so started to see that play out.
- 0:24Speaker 4: And those things alive give us a confidence that will
- 0:26Speaker 4: consu to pay strong evenments.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Our export let economy is built on dairy, making Fonterra
- 0:40Speaker 1: one of our more important assets. It just made an
- 0:43Speaker 1: annual net profit after tax of one point one billion dollars,
- 0:47Speaker 1: down from one point six billion last financial year. It
- 0:51Speaker 1: also announced a fifty five cents per year dividend for
- 0:54Speaker 1: the year, including a fifteen cent special dividend, making the
- 0:58Speaker 1: total the second large in its history. The cooperative, which
- 1:02Speaker 1: is owned by its dairy farmer suppliers, has come a
- 1:05Speaker 1: long way since its reset started in twenty eighteen. It's
- 1:09Speaker 1: sold out of joint ventures around the world and Brazil,
- 1:13Speaker 1: Chile and China, including its loss making China farms business.
- 1:17Speaker 1: It even flicked its Tip Top ice cream business in
- 1:20Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. It's now consulting on another major asset sale.
- 1:30Speaker 1: It's New Zealand Consumer division that comprises its iconic brands Anchor,
- 1:35Speaker 1: Mainland Carpety and Lenen and Mump Powder, Western Star Butter
- 1:40Speaker 1: and Perfect Italiano Cheese. It'll need farmer shareholders to approve
- 1:45Speaker 1: any sale, and they may want to see some of
- 1:47Speaker 1: the price fetched return to them, given they've been struggling
- 1:51Speaker 1: with on farm inflation in recent years, with costs for
- 1:54Speaker 1: fertilizer increasing up to thirty percent.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Particular labor, all those farm inputs, you know, being pretty
- 2:03Speaker 2: much out of control on the last threet. That's starting
- 2:06Speaker 2: to abate now, so farm imagines are starting to improve again.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Dairy farmers received seven dollars eighty three per kilo of
- 2:14Speaker 1: milk solids last season, barely enough to break even, but
- 2:18Speaker 1: Fonterra expects to pay a higher price this season, with
- 2:22Speaker 1: a midpoint of nine dollars.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Yeah, it helps, but nine dollars isn't the old nine doors.
- 2:28Speaker 2: So we're talking about a nominal nine dollars, nine dollars
- 2:33Speaker 2: six or sevens ago with a lot more than it
- 2:36Speaker 2: is today.
- 2:37Speaker 1: It reflects the co op strategic focus on New Zealand
- 2:40Speaker 1: milk as it continues to get its balance sheet and order.
- 2:44Speaker 1: That's what I talk to its leaders about at its
- 2:46Speaker 1: financial result press conference in Auckland this week, wanting Peter
- 2:50Speaker 1: Miles and Andrew Nice and Andrew have you met you before?
- 2:52Speaker 1: Thank you someonech for having us first Miles the second
- 2:56Speaker 1: largest ever dividend in the history of this co op.
- 3:00Speaker 1: What about the financial performance in the past twelve months
- 3:03Speaker 1: but also going forward gives you confidence that you can
- 3:06Speaker 1: pay that amount?
- 3:07Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean we've been on a journey for
- 3:10Speaker 4: sort of the last four or five years and getting
- 3:11Speaker 4: their business into good shape. And you've seen that in
- 3:13Speaker 4: the slides here with regards to a balance sheet. So
- 3:16Speaker 4: you get you balance, you under control, gives you the optionality,
- 3:19Speaker 4: it gives you the flexibility. And so you've seen the
- 3:21Speaker 4: investments we've made more recently, and so have our protein
- 3:24Speaker 4: products and so are UHT and so's aout that's about
- 3:27Speaker 4: growing the organization as a whole.
- 3:29Speaker 3: And I think you and I talk about that.
- 3:31Speaker 4: A year ago around what is that growth plan? So
- 3:33Speaker 4: you're starting to see that play out and those things
- 3:35Speaker 4: a line and give us the confidence that will continue
- 3:37Speaker 4: to pay strong.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Them on balance sheet. Andrew, I'd love to ask you
- 3:39Speaker 1: about that net debt figure. I remember sitting in this
- 3:42Speaker 1: room a few years ago and that gearing ratio was
- 3:44Speaker 1: at forty eight percent. Now it's down to twenty four percent.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Talk to us about the decisions that have had to
- 3:50Speaker 1: be have had to have been made, and the focus
- 3:53Speaker 1: and this co opt to get it down to the
- 3:55Speaker 1: level where it's at now. And how do you feel
- 3:56Speaker 1: about where it is now?
- 3:58Speaker 3: So I actually feel really comfortable was where we are.
- 4:00Speaker 3: I'll know, if you look at our guardrails, we've been
- 4:02Speaker 3: aiming to get down to this sort of level. We're
- 4:04Speaker 3: probably a little memb, a little lawd wh where we
- 4:07Speaker 3: would adly be. But obviously that you know, we've had
- 4:10Speaker 3: a really good selection of innings that's enabled us to
- 4:12Speaker 3: get ourselves into really good sheep and that's what sets
- 4:15Speaker 3: us up for the future. I think if we look
- 4:16Speaker 3: out a little bit, you know, we do have some
- 4:18Speaker 3: larger investments coming up as we continue doing the Sustinability
- 4:21Speaker 3: agenda and the other goals investments. So feeling really comfortable
- 4:24Speaker 3: that we're in the exact range we need to be,
- 4:26Speaker 3: and we can also stand a little bit of bolatility
- 4:28Speaker 3: in the market.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Thanks Andrew Miles on consumer I'm sure everyone wants to
- 4:32Speaker 1: know about this today. Margins there have improved massively. Sales
- 4:37Speaker 1: were up six percent, made one hundred and ninety nine
- 4:39Speaker 1: million dollars in earnings in the financial year just ended.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Why do you want to get rid of it?
- 4:43Speaker 4: Well, clearly it's it's had one of us bitter years
- 4:46Speaker 4: across the history of the cooperative, which shows that the
- 4:49Speaker 4: team of focus of delivering our brands are wanted by
- 4:52Speaker 4: consumers globally. But still we're still not the natural owner
- 4:55Speaker 4: of that business when you look at the return on
- 4:57Speaker 4: capital compared to other business units. We believe very gingredients
- 5:00Speaker 4: in our food service as it has a better future
- 5:02Speaker 4: for this corporative, and so we don't shy away from
- 5:05Speaker 4: the fact that we've had a very strong performance. It's
- 5:07Speaker 4: still not at the levels that we would like to
- 5:09Speaker 4: see over the long terminus. A new natural odor is
- 5:12Speaker 4: the right place for us.
- 5:13Speaker 1: How much do you think you can fetch for it
- 5:15Speaker 1: in a price.
- 5:15Speaker 4: Tamally two too early? Have you got a checkbook?
- 5:18Speaker 1: Medicine I don't think I can afford three point five
- 5:20Speaker 1: billion dollars, but fans for asker, I mean, and as.
- 5:23Speaker 4: I said, I think in Q three, you know we've
- 5:26Speaker 4: had had some very good interest in our business. We've
- 5:28Speaker 4: now apported some advice to help us on the next phase,
- 5:31Speaker 4: and so we're looking forward to sort again getting that
- 5:33Speaker 4: kicked off before crystals.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Simplified strategies are what we're seeing from a lot of
- 5:38Speaker 1: businesses at the moment. You're seeing us Worth Rhyme and
- 5:40Speaker 1: healthcare with the warehouse. All of these businesses are getting
- 5:43Speaker 1: back to their core. But I want to know what
- 5:45Speaker 1: Fonterra will then look like going forward if it loses
- 5:48Speaker 1: one of only three divisions that it has left. We've
- 5:50Speaker 1: seen the Ingredients, which is one of the two that
- 5:52Speaker 1: you'll be left with after divesting. Consumer hasn't had that
- 5:55Speaker 1: good of a year. So how diversified and strong will
- 5:59Speaker 1: Fonterra without Consumer and a more simplified strategy going.
- 6:03Speaker 4: For Yeah, So despite this year's Ingredients being back on
- 6:07Speaker 4: last year, I mean last year was extraordinary and that
- 6:10Speaker 4: was a year that we've never seen before in our
- 6:11Speaker 4: ingredient's business. Given the stream, the relativities between the reference
- 6:14Speaker 4: and non reference. So even this year is a very
- 6:17Speaker 4: very strong performance or ingredients business when you look back
- 6:19Speaker 4: over the history. So we shouldn't we shouldn't we should
- 6:23Speaker 4: acknowledge that in our food service business continues to go
- 6:26Speaker 4: from strength to We think by focusing what we're good at,
- 6:29Speaker 4: which is collection processing and their B to B business,
- 6:32Speaker 4: we think there's more upside to be head there than
- 6:35Speaker 4: trying to chase the consumersiness as well.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Peter would love your thoughts on the Chinese economy at
- 6:39Speaker 1: the moment and your ingredients business to mention that again
- 6:42Speaker 1: there was lower volumes down by about four percent and
- 6:44Speaker 1: greater China. How are you thinking about that going forward?
- 6:47Speaker 5: Well, it feels like from a dairy perspective that we're
- 6:51Speaker 5: on there in China, like demands particular the last couple
- 6:54Speaker 5: of months has started to recover and you know seven
- 6:58Speaker 5: leaders down with pressure on China is Molok supply and
- 7:01Speaker 5: also some potentially aged indon treated they've had in the
- 7:05Speaker 5: home space. That's really a home peller story and that's
- 7:07Speaker 5: the product of last result for the Chinese.
- 7:10Speaker 2: So we're feeling a lot better about demand.
- 7:14Speaker 1: From John Miles, if you had any feedback on that
- 7:16Speaker 1: nine bucks a midpoint today, So the smiling farmers out there.
- 7:20Speaker 4: Yeah, the phone's been ringing this morning quite a lot.
- 7:22Speaker 4: So I know that that's been well received, and I think,
- 7:26Speaker 4: you know, Peter referred to that in the opening. I mean,
- 7:28Speaker 4: we've come off the back of a couple of tough
- 7:30Speaker 4: years behind fun Gate, we struggled to break even, and
- 7:36Speaker 4: so that to be very well welcomed. I think there's
- 7:38Speaker 4: some probably caval expenditure that farmers haven't been able to
- 7:41Speaker 4: be in the last couple of years, and so well,
- 7:43Speaker 4: well it's a fantastic number. You know, there's a couple
- 7:46Speaker 4: of years catch up that I think farmers are looking
- 7:48Speaker 4: forward to.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Thanks so much. I appreciate it.