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Gordie Chiesa on the NBA offseason, The LeBron circus moving to Philly, Summer League takeaways + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest called the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Giasa. She's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy to come for the hoops talk.
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  Speaker 2: Stay for this list of the day, our list today,
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  Speaker 2: here's o C. What's basketball so about? Gordy Chiasa on
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  Speaker 2: the Sean O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 3: Not So Fast. OC is not here today. B R
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  Speaker 3: is with GC. Today Gordon jays in studio and talk
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  Speaker 3: some NBA basketball. Last time Gordi and I talked, Summer
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  Speaker 3: League was just getting ready to start up in Las Vegas,
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  Speaker 3: and so now we've got that under our belt. So
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  Speaker 3: we've got that to talk about, look ahead to the
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  Speaker 3: season and more.
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  Speaker 1: Gordon, are you Bill? I'm doing fine, Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: You had a little vacation time, a little downtime, went
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  Speaker 4: up to Montana, got to see some Selot family very much.
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  Speaker 1: I was in Mozilla Montana, which is a beautiful It's city,
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  Speaker 1: and we had a good I'm doing nothing, doing nothing, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: doing nothing.
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  Speaker 3: That's what That's what retirement's about, Cordy. Yeah, it's doing
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  Speaker 3: a lot of nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Now people told me that before I retire, I was
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  Speaker 1: doing nothing also, but that's a different story. Unlike you,
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  Speaker 1: you're the hardest working guy that we know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not sure about that, but I do try
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  Speaker 3: to to, uh to bust it just a little bit here.
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  Speaker 3: So the summer's been good, we'll, uh, we'll talk a
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  Speaker 3: little bit about everybody put out there their their summer
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  Speaker 3: league report cards and how how how individuals played and
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  Speaker 3: how individuals didn't play, and things like that, which I
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  Speaker 3: always find to be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy.
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  Speaker 3: Now, if if an individual like a Darren Peterson or
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  Speaker 3: a Caleb Wilson had an absolutely flat and terrible you know,
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  Speaker 3: they averaged eight points a game in summer League, you'd
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  Speaker 3: be a little worried about that. But the thing you
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  Speaker 3: have to worry remember about summer league is you're not
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  Speaker 3: really playing with the guys. If you're you know, Aj
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  Speaker 3: Debons and Darren Peterson and Caleb Wilson and Cam Boozer
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  Speaker 3: that you're gonna be playing with during the regular season,
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  Speaker 3: you're playing with a bunch of guys that aren't like
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  Speaker 3: to make the.
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  Speaker 4: Team and maybe aren't even gonna be in the G league.
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  Speaker 3: They're probably gonna go play in some league in Paraguay
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  Speaker 3: or Mexico or something like that. So I always find
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  Speaker 3: it hard to really judge and give a letter grade
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  Speaker 3: to people. But how do you view evaluating summer league players,
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  Speaker 3: especially the guys that are the first round picks.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the top four picks played absolutely tremendous. That's including
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  Speaker 1: Jazz Darren Peterson. Jazz held him out some of the games,
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  Speaker 1: especially in Vegas, but when he was ready to play,
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  Speaker 1: he performed. They didn't shoot well, and it's ironically because
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  Speaker 1: that's the best thing he does is make shots. He's
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  Speaker 1: a you know, thirty eight percent three point shooter and
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  Speaker 1: his form is absolutely pitcher perfect. So he got talent.
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  Speaker 1: He gets in that lane with that strong body, he
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  Speaker 1: can make a play.
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  Speaker 3: Right nitpick for me just a little bit though on
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  Speaker 3: what you saw from him, Well.
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  Speaker 1: He's not really a point guard, so a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people say, well, he can play the point, he can
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  Speaker 1: enter the ball on the offense. Point guard is your job.
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  Speaker 1: It's a point guard in the at every level, especially
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  Speaker 1: in the NBA, is to get everybody involved in the offense.
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  Speaker 1: Then the last five seconds of a shot clock, you
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  Speaker 1: become the offense yourself. Before that you were getting everybody involved,
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  Speaker 1: with the exception being if the guy guarding you will
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  Speaker 1: fall down on his feet with tangled the tangle footwear,
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  Speaker 1: then you go by him. Otherwise your job is to
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  Speaker 1: everybody involved. So Darren Peterson, his development, his ball handling
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  Speaker 1: has to improve, but also decision making that you can't
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  Speaker 1: have eight turnovers in a game. You cannot. Again, he's
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  Speaker 1: so young, he's years twenty years, youthful, with enthusiasm. I
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  Speaker 1: love his game.
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  Speaker 3: Is there something though in summer League do coaches I know,
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  Speaker 3: Will Hardy isn't technically the coach, but he's overseeing everything,
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  Speaker 3: and is there something where they kind of want these
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  Speaker 3: guys to go out and be free flowing and show
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  Speaker 3: what they can do. How how upset or sideways do
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  Speaker 3: coaches get about? You know, he had the big one,
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  Speaker 3: big turnover game. I mean, are you dwelling much on
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  Speaker 3: that if you're the Jazz?
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  Speaker 1: No you're not. Okay you're not, But we do though.
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  Speaker 1: You want to try to get value the ball go
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  Speaker 1: at every level. Your job is any sports, matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's football, basketball, is the value of the ball
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  Speaker 1: and that means what decision making and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times in the NBA, even though you're playing in a
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  Speaker 1: Big twelve or a ACC or the Big Bad Big
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  Speaker 1: East or the Big Ten, is that the game is
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  Speaker 1: absolutely more physical in the regular season and then also
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. It's a whole different level. And you're
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  Speaker 1: saw that first hand where Jellen Brunson tight people who's
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  Speaker 1: got a strong body at six foot two. The defensive
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  Speaker 1: players who are really good were bouncing off and meaning
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Castle and Dylan Harper and all those other people.
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  Speaker 1: Champagney of the Spurs, they couldn't guard him because of
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  Speaker 1: decision making and a strong body. So Darren Pason type players,
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  Speaker 1: the bouncer, Caleb Wilson, now Cam Boos ironically he's stronger ready.
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  Speaker 1: So camp Buos is probably the most underrated guy with
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  Speaker 1: no one talks about him. You know what he does
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  Speaker 1: simply he wins.
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  Speaker 3: How much better do you think cambll I mean we
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  Speaker 3: talk about high floor, low ceiling guys. I think they
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  Speaker 3: use that description with a guy like Cam Boozer, right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean does he have superstar written on him for
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  Speaker 3: you or does he just have star all star? Perhaps
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  Speaker 3: guy that's gonna have a ten to twelve year career
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  Speaker 3: or do you think he could be a superstar.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going a different viewpoint. I'm gon go for
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  Speaker 1: a point where is that he's an average for his
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  Speaker 1: career twenty two and eleven and five dimes. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: a superstar means that he can carry a franchise, deepened
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  Speaker 1: the players every year. He would be probably on an
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  Speaker 1: elite team, your second best player, right, which is great?
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  Speaker 1: So nothing is that whatsoever? All right? So there is
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  Speaker 1: I love his game. I coached his dad. He's dead.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's been better than his dad potentially. And Carlos
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  Speaker 1: Boozer was an under again and Jess focal.
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  Speaker 4: He's a better all around player than his dad was.
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  Speaker 1: His dad was.
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  Speaker 4: His dad was a somewhat undersized power forward, somewhat who
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  Speaker 4: could really rebound and score around the basket. This kid
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  Speaker 4: can do more.
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  Speaker 3: He's a passer, he can space out on the floor
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  Speaker 3: and shoot the ball a little. Carlos got better with that,
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  Speaker 3: as most NBA guys. Carl did. To the further you
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  Speaker 3: go along in your career, he's more ready because that's
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  Speaker 3: where the game is today, very much.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, he's only nineteen years old. These
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  Speaker 1: guys are so young. Bill I know, guys nineteen years old,
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  Speaker 1: they don't know what what's today is today, Thursday, Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's not.
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  Speaker 3: Nineteen year olds in life and in general are young
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  Speaker 3: and dumb. They don't have any idea. This guy though
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  Speaker 3: he does. He's a nineteen year old that gets it
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  Speaker 3: very much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And in Memphis Grizzlies, there there is. I know,
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  Speaker 1: last year it was a bizarre they won twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: games and lost fifty five. But the Grizzlies they've done
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  Speaker 1: a good job with their roster and who they acquired,
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  Speaker 1: and they will be a better team this year. And
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  Speaker 1: Jazz Basketball, there's like the Spurs and the Thunder are
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  Speaker 1: by far the best teams, but everyone else is sol.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna make a narrative where there's no perfect third
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  Speaker 1: place team right now where whether it's the Nuggets, Lakers, Rockets, Tea, Wolves, Sons, Trailblazers, Clippers, Warriors, MAVs, Grizzlies, Jazz,
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  Speaker 1: they're all bunched up. In my eyes. The only two
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  Speaker 1: teams that really would be on the bottom, it seems
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  Speaker 1: to me, would be the Pelicans and the Kings. Everyone else,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna make a discussion point. Hey, we're gonna be good.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the reasons why. Usually speaking, the way a
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  Speaker 1: team is get improves is that they play better defense.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the Jazz right now, and Jazz basketball. You
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  Speaker 1: cannot be the Jazz as far as less two years
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  Speaker 1: where defense they struggled both on ball and off ball.
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  Speaker 1: On ball means why that I pride myself where I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna guard the ball in my defensive stance to my
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  Speaker 1: best of my ability, use my hands without fouling. And
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  Speaker 1: then if I do make a the player does penetrate
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  Speaker 1: and gets in the lane, we're gonna be organized, get
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  Speaker 1: to the corner to challenge that three point shot. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what you do. And Bill, I know Bill, right now,
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  Speaker 1: I'll put you on the spot. I've been talking to
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  Speaker 1: you way too infrequent. So Bill, by the way, how
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  Speaker 1: far is the NBA short corner? Three twenty two feet?
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right, Bill. This is why Bill, you're a
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  Speaker 1: scholar and I'm a starving artist. Well, this is the.
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  Speaker 3: Reason why you've drilled that into my head for the
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  Speaker 3: last fifteen years.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see, Bill, how far is the arc three point
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  Speaker 1: line NBA arc? Yeah, NB.
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  Speaker 4: Twenty six feet?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm glad you're not an astronaut. I
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  Speaker 1: am glad we're not going to right now, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to the wrong planet right now. Twenty three nine, let's
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  Speaker 1: go yester year, Bill, how far is the old school
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  Speaker 1: red white and blue iconic ball aba three?
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  Speaker 4: Twenty two feet?
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  Speaker 1: Bill, I am so glad that you're not an astronaut.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you and your loved ones aren't
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  Speaker 1: going through the planet. All right, it's twenty five feet
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty five way out there.
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  Speaker 3: But Steph Curry's the old school college three line, all right?
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  Speaker 1: Oh twenty one. I think it was nineteen nineteen nine. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was nineteen all right, So I suld
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  Speaker 1: believe you're not an astronaut either, Bie, trust me, you're
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  Speaker 1: NASA's glad. Also, remember when you're a coach minus Morgan Scalley,
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  Speaker 1: Minus Morgan Scalley, most coaches really have a hard time
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  Speaker 1: Bill in mathematics. Well, math is hard, yeah, most times, Matt,
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  Speaker 1: So Bill, I wasn't really a scholar in let's say,
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  Speaker 1: algebra or trigonometry, geometry, geometry. But I do know one
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  Speaker 1: thing right now at the short in threes, twenty two feet.
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  Speaker 1: You have to guard it in the NBA, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, any I want to get some quick hitters on
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  Speaker 3: the other big draft names. But aside from Darren Peterson,
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  Speaker 3: you tell me, was there anybody else that really showed
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  Speaker 3: for this summer for the Utah Jazz that impressed you?
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  Speaker 1: Impressed you? I don't know the answers. No, No, Are.
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  Speaker 4: You worried about Cody Williams.
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  Speaker 1: This mixed result? The answer is I'm worried, yes, because
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  Speaker 1: he should be better than he is. He's got he's
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  Speaker 1: gotten stronger, But as the tenth pick of the draft,
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  Speaker 1: you need more. You need like that tenacity. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: six seven and a half, I'm I'm a fanatical. I'm
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  Speaker 1: guarding this guy. I'm ducking in a guy's nuggin. I'm
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  Speaker 1: making rainbow threes. I'm giving go cutting in again.
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  Speaker 4: Just do one thing really well?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Don't they have to do a lot of things. Well,
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  Speaker 3: he's not his brother, we know that, but a second
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  Speaker 3: full season, you know, this is his second summer.
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  Speaker 4: Third summer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, third summer, third.
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  Speaker 4: Summer, going into it. He I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I can't find one thing that he does well right now,
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  Speaker 3: one thing that if Will Hardy said I need to
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  Speaker 3: put him in the game to do this, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: sure what that would be right now, Gordy. And that's
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  Speaker 3: the part that's a little troubling, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it is, Yeah, Okay, you have to either guard,
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  Speaker 1: you have to make threes either or not.
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  Speaker 4: Both quick hitters. Aj De bonsa.
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  Speaker 1: Tremendous absolutely the rocker, Gibralter alter talented. He's going to
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  Speaker 1: help the Wizards again improve.
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  Speaker 3: What did you see? Just give me a thought on
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  Speaker 3: what you saw from him in Summer League.
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  Speaker 1: That he can create his own shot, and that he
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  Speaker 1: can rebound in traffic and bust out, dribble and make
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  Speaker 1: a play. He's a willing passer. I love his game
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  Speaker 1: and the Wizards. I know the Wizards. Bill, the Wizards
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  Speaker 1: have not won fifty games, Bill since nineteen seventy nine.
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  Speaker 1: Let's put in a context, Bill and your illustrious life.
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  Speaker 1: You finish Ku after many years a struggling Bill in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. So Bill, you have built so the
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  Speaker 1: Wizards slash Washington Bullets, if I remember right, have not
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  Speaker 1: won fifty games since nineteen seventy nine. Let's put in.
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  Speaker 4: Political Bill Dandridge, Bobby wes Unsel, all right, and jazz basketball.
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  Speaker 1: It was a rarity. Did Jesse win fifty games in
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  Speaker 1: that era? They won fifty all the time. So let's
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  Speaker 1: put it in context. So AJ is gonna try to
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  Speaker 1: help with his trusted sidekicks. Now build the problem is
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  Speaker 1: Trey Young, all right.
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  Speaker 4: See it doesn't play winning basketball, Gordy.
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  Speaker 1: I like his talent, but there's something missing so far,
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  Speaker 1: a conscience, all right. So the question is with AJ, well,
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  Speaker 1: they let him. Eventually it will be his team. The
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  Speaker 1: question is when, all right, Well, that's it with quick
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  Speaker 1: hitters here. These are quick hitter all right.
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  Speaker 3: So we've already talked about Boozer, Debonsa and Darren Peterson.
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  Speaker 4: Caleb Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: Do you do you like Kevin Garnett? Do you like
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  Speaker 1: do you like James Worthy? That's that's a j Wilson
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  Speaker 1: Bose fourth pick in the draft, Absolutely tremendous. I love
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  Speaker 1: his game. He's bouncy, he can make threes, he can score,
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  Speaker 1: and that guy, that guy does it with a smile.
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  Speaker 1: Keaton Vogler underrated the fifth pick by the Clippers, all
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  Speaker 1: around player from Illinois. He's been well schooled and he
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  Speaker 1: will help the Clippers didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Did he have a good summer league or did he
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  Speaker 4: get better as summer went on?
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  Speaker 1: He got better? Some went on. I just love his talent.
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  Speaker 1: Darius AKA very good, create his own shot, absolutely very good,
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  Speaker 1: Kingston Flemings, Okay, winning game, He's been challenged in practice.
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  Speaker 3: I'm positive he's kind of the opposite at point guard
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  Speaker 3: from what Trey Young was. Right, Yeah, it's more of
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  Speaker 3: a willing passers? Is that because of where he played
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  Speaker 3: and who he played for?
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  Speaker 1: Very much? And he Kelvin Sampson. Kelvin Sampson, who's now
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  Speaker 1: who coach us Houston Cougar's which he goes against BYU
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  Speaker 1: and the Utes. All right, Now, when you have a
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  Speaker 1: guy from Houston that you know that they've been challenged
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  Speaker 1: and practiced, so for them to run back on defense
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  Speaker 1: is no big deal. All right?
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  Speaker 3: Just of all the summer league that you watched, and
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. You didn't watch as much as you have
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  Speaker 3: in years gone by, but you watched a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Who are your sources like, Yeah, what are you.
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  Speaker 4: Guessing you have?
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  Speaker 3: You're not watching the same amount that you used to
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  Speaker 3: when you used to coaching it.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, what are you talking about? I was my my
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  Speaker 1: my loving wife was had an attitude. Told me about
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  Speaker 1: I thought you retired.
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  Speaker 3: The lovely and talented Nancy, Well yeah, I would much
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  Speaker 3: better half. She was probably golfing anyway, so you could
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  Speaker 3: watch plenty while she was out golfing with girls with
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  Speaker 3: their sidekicks. Give me another, give me a player. Sobody,
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  Speaker 3: we haven't talked about that really impressed you in summer league.
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  Speaker 1: That's easy La Lakers. Cameron Kaar Okay, the Baylor Bear.
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  Speaker 4: I saw him play for Baylor. He was a good
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  Speaker 4: player at bag.
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  Speaker 1: I got that right. He got some talent. He can make,
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  Speaker 1: he can make frees. He's gonna play for the Lakers.
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  Speaker 1: I know the Lakers are what's the word, they're in
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  Speaker 1: a crossroads right now. But he's very good at pick
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  Speaker 1: number twenty four. Are you kidding me? He's got NBA game.
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  Speaker 1: He's ready.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's grab a break. We're gonna come back. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: there's been a lot of other stuff going on in
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  Speaker 3: the NBA. Lebron he's a Philadelphia seventy six er. He's
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  Speaker 3: just bouncing, bouncing again. So we'll talk a little bit
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  Speaker 3: about that. What that means to the dynamic overall, in
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  Speaker 3: the league and more. By the way, they're apparently finalizing
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: a deal Lebron and his people with ESPN to follow
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  Speaker 3: him around all year long for a documentary. They're trying
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  Speaker 3: to say, this is Last Dance esque? Does anybody really
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  Speaker 3: think any documentary? And I like Lebron James, but there's
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  Speaker 3: nothing nearly as interesting and compelling about Lebron James as
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  Speaker 3: there was about Michael Jordan because it's just a different time.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't have social media and constant cameras following you
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  Speaker 3: all the time and access. We didn't know much about
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  Speaker 3: Michael besides what we saw on game day and the
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  Speaker 3: rest of the Bulls. That's why that documentary was so interesting.
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  Speaker 3: In today's day and age, we know everything all the
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  Speaker 3: time about Lebron and athletes like Lebron, So I don't
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  Speaker 3: think comparing it to The Last Dance is probably the
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  Speaker 3: right way to go, just my opinion. Anyway, we'll talk
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  Speaker 3: about the rest of the league coming up with Gordy.
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  Speaker 3: We'll have a list which I don't know what it
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  Speaker 3: is just yet, and more coming up on a Thursday
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  Speaker 3: Sean O'Connell show, Bill Riley in for Sean Today on
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  Speaker 3: this year, because of course our friend Tony is now
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  Speaker 3: covering the Philadelphia seventy six Ers for the Athletic and
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  Speaker 3: Lebron James is a member of the PHID. That Philadelphia
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  Speaker 3: team was going to be good already, Gordy with Tyrese
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  Speaker 3: Maxi vj Edgecombe. They added Jalen Brown in that trade.
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  Speaker 3: This summer they got rid of Paul George, but I
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  Speaker 3: think was auditioned by subtraction. And when he plays Joel
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  Speaker 3: Embiids a really really good basketball player. The thing is
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  Speaker 3: he just got to get him on the floor. But
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  Speaker 3: now you add Lebron James to that mix. What do
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  Speaker 3: you make of the Philadelphia seventy six ers and Lebron's
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  Speaker 3: decision to go to Philly.
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  Speaker 1: They're right there as far as contending in the East,
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  Speaker 1: so they can You're gonna go against the Pistons who
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  Speaker 1: win sixty games last year, the Celts who overachieved, and
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  Speaker 1: the world champion Nicobockers, who really are eighteen. So it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a fascinating in the Eastern Conference. Who can
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  Speaker 1: come out of it? As far as advancing to get
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to the NBA found Lebron here's the math about him.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: He turns forty two on December thirtieth. He's still in
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  Speaker 1: the top twelve players in the NBA. Will he fit
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  Speaker 1: in with the seventy six ers. The answer is yes quickly.
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  Speaker 1: He should be the starting lineup for the sixties Terse
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  Speaker 1: Maxi All Star. Top of his game, a tremendous talent,
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  Speaker 1: plays to win at two guard. Should be j Edgecomb
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  Speaker 1: Oh Rookie Team last year from balcond year player again
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  Speaker 1: major talent, can score the ball both over the top
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  Speaker 1: as far as shooting the ball and impenetrating at small forward.
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  Speaker 1: Jeleen Brown second team All Pro last year, all around player.
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  Speaker 1: He gets a do over now with the seventy six
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  Speaker 1: is mentally and we'll see it and it should play out.
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  Speaker 1: Lebron James, I'll call him a point forward member. Last
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  Speaker 1: year he averaged twenty three points a game and eight
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  Speaker 1: rebounds and seven point three assist and Joel ebid Bill
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  Speaker 1: mentioned about Joel Ebbie average for his Korea twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: points a game for his Korea. So when he is healthy,
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  Speaker 1: it's great. Anthony Simon's off the bench, can score the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Get Tavis Cole Pope all around player, defensive minded. Then
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  Speaker 1: he go Justin Edwards from Kentucky who will be a
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  Speaker 1: thirty year player that can make shots. Then then if
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  Speaker 1: they go also Dean Wade now part of the Cavaliers
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  Speaker 1: last year off the bench, knockdown shooter, and then as
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  Speaker 1: the backup senate should be from Nikobock as a young
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  Speaker 1: guy is a German descent, Ariel Hapordi who played for
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  Speaker 1: the Knicks last year, and he'll back up Joel Embiid.
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  Speaker 1: So they're ten deep right now. Can they do it?
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  Speaker 1: The answer is we're gonna find out, but they're right there.
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  Speaker 1: To seventy six is.
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  Speaker 3: Taking health out of the equation because you've got to
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  Speaker 3: be healthy to win this thing.
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  Speaker 1: You just do.
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  Speaker 3: If they lose Embiid or what, it's probably going to
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  Speaker 3: side swipe you from being a champion. But what do
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  Speaker 3: you see as the biggest issue that Nick Nurse and
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  Speaker 3: the Sixers and this team have to deal with to
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  Speaker 3: win a championship, to contend in the East, to win
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  Speaker 3: that thing.
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  Speaker 1: Share the ball? Yeah, share the ball absolutely. So they
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of players that are used to having
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  Speaker 1: the ball to make place and as far as assist,
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  Speaker 1: and now the question is can you not have the
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  Speaker 1: ball and move without the ball? Meaning what screening action,
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  Speaker 1: backscreen spacing, re screen, dribble, handoff, just making basketball decisions
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  Speaker 1: for the betterment of the team quickly. So the last
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  Speaker 1: time that the Sixers won won the championship Bill was
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Moses Malone, Mo Cheeks, Bobby Jones, Doctor J, Doctor J,
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Tony, one of my all time favorite NBA players
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  Speaker 3: whose career was sidelined by injuries. But he was so
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  Speaker 3: good Mo Cheeks, I said, Mo Cheeks, I believe, I
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  Speaker 3: believe you had Caldwell Jones yeh on that team. He
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  Speaker 3: had to both the Jones. There's no relation Bobby and Caldwell,
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  Speaker 3: but they were. But it was Moses and Doctor J
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  Speaker 3: and Andrew Tony and Mo Cheeks.
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  Speaker 1: They were good.
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  Speaker 4: They beat if I'm not mistaken, they beat the Houston
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  Speaker 4: Rockets or did they beat the Lakers Rockets?
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  Speaker 1: It was the Rockets. Yeah. And the last time he
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: made the NBA Finals was two thousand and one with
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  Speaker 1: Allen Iverson. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That team had no chance because they were playing the
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  Speaker 3: Lakers with Shaq and Kobe.
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  Speaker 1: Kobe and that team that true. So again, the city
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: of Brudley love Remember Bill, Remember the time Bill that
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  Speaker 1: at an Eagles game they boot Santa Claus and threw
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  Speaker 1: icicles ice bowls. Santa Claus, Bill, what kind of city
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  Speaker 1: is this?
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  Speaker 3: I got hit with an iceball once at Mile High
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  Speaker 3: Stadium by a Broncos fan when I was down on
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  Speaker 3: the sideline. I was battling the flu. It was the
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  Speaker 3: end of a game. The Jaguars were getting pummeled by
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos. What was her name, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: it was a hymn. If it was, it was a female,
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  Speaker 3: it probably could have been. I was in a trench
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  Speaker 3: coat in the snow and somebody nailed me in the
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  Speaker 3: back of the head with an ice ball. I already
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  Speaker 3: had the flu. It was not a good day in
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  Speaker 3: Denver that day. I see you toughed it out. So
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: me and Santa Claus have something in common getting pelted
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: by mad, angry, nasty football fans, Philadelphia fans and Bronco fans.
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  Speaker 1: Very much so. As additas to intrigue right now with
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: lebron slash Bill Riley, as far as Philadelphia is that
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: it's a typical East Coast city where they loved their
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: passionate about their team. The Knickerbockers, Are you kidding me?
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Those guys won the championship for the first time since
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, and Jeling Brunson and that crew Mike
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  Speaker 1: Brown was the coach. They did a tremendous job as
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  Speaker 1: far as team building and playing as a unit.
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  Speaker 3: It felt like everything fell in place and came together
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: for the Knicks this year. Do you feel like they
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: would have a second run or was this year just
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: kind of that perfect storm for them?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Perfect storm? Yeah, perfect, They'll be bad.
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  Speaker 3: But if I was picking a title contender, I don't
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: know if I would pick the Knicks, which is weird
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: to say because they were dominant in the playoffs too,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: But it just kind of felt like everything just fell
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  Speaker 3: perfectly into place.
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  Speaker 1: For them this year. Good for them. They won fifty
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: three games last year. Now, if you're the Pistons, you're saying, kay, Hunning,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I'm their crew right now, and the Jellen Duran are
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: saying that we can a year again of maturity so
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: much again, it's the question, as always for anybody that
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: involved in sports, when does the maturity factor kick in
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: for an individual player and the team. Is it twenty
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: three years old, is it twenty seven, is it thirty one?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Is it thirty four? By the way is it never?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Here's the question. Here's a question I have for you though. Okay,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: tight game, one possession down the stretch. Who's the closer
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: for Philadelphia? Teres Maxey?
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  Speaker 3: So it's not Jalen Brown, No is Somebody gonna have
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: to tell him that because I think he probably thinks
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: it is. Yes, it does Lebron James think he's the closer? Still, Yes, Okay, Well,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: isn't that a problem if you're Nick there's something you
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: probably have to address early in the season so very
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: much when those occasions come up. Because I agree with you,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Terrese Maxey is a closer, but I can see why
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Jalen Brown would think he would be. And Lebron James
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: is maybe the second best player in the history of
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: He probably thinks he could be too correct. And also,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Joel and b give me the ball, low block. I
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: can scorek to anybody in the world, and he can.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: And that's the power of coaching. Now, Nick Nurse, that guy,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: in a good way is a wild card coach. Who's
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the dealing it? And it's a compliment. Remember in the
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: NBA slash NFL, you can't be like normal. You have
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to be like this sort of like edg person that's
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a very that's a great communicator, but you like Edgy
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: where the players really don't know where what you're going
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: to say to them the next moment, and that is good.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: That is absolutely good, and that's how you communicate. And
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that's why Nick Nurse he's ready for this challenge. Now,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the question is will the players listen? YO sometimes built
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  Speaker 1: that players I call have invisible ear muffs. They're yesing you,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: they're saying, they're nodding yes, they are making a verbal nod,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: but they're not really listening. They're hearing you, but they're
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: not really listening.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: All Right, We've got to grab a break. We'll come
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  Speaker 3: back on the other side. A few other NBA happenings.
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  Speaker 3: We got a list of the day, a couple of
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  Speaker 3: text messages for Gordy as well, if you have one,
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  Speaker 3: Gordy would love to hear from you. So what I'm
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  Speaker 3: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred is
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  Speaker 2: She was listening to a Sean O'Connell show from the
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  Speaker 2: Murdoch Hunting Studio a ESPN seven hundred and ninety two.
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  Speaker 1: To one af AM hour two.
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  Speaker 3: OC's out today, Rile's in with Gordy As we talked
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  Speaker 3: some NBA stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And now it's Barkley both and known that you were here,
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  Speaker 1: James Peace and I our colleague, we decided that we
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  Speaker 1: had to have some songs your personality, so of course
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  Speaker 1: you and now it's Barkley Crazy.
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  Speaker 4: That's another one of your songs.
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  Speaker 1: Bill, I don't want to go there, Bill, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about my playlist. You've got a great playlist.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It's very diverse.
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  Speaker 3: Sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, nineties, current times. Bill, the Beastie Boys?
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  Speaker 3: What were you listening to during your workout this morning?
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: The Beastie Boys are great. I saw him a couple
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  Speaker 3: of times in concert.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Smart worked out to the Beastie Boys? You did, Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I also was it like a mix?
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Was it a particular album, maybe Paul's boutique, maybe licensed
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: to ill?
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  Speaker 4: What was it?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: That's part of it?
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: That's the OG right there? Yeah, Yeah, that's the og.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: But also I wore that cassette tape out by the way, Gordy.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: This is why Bill, you're successful and I'm a starving artist.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: You're not artist. But speaking of another starving artist, Bill rally,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: let's lebron let's quickly. It's a short mini list by
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: as far as he is.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: This our list list. No, okay, this is just a
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: mini list. You brought two lists in today.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And your honor. Okay, thank you? All right? So this
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: is the all time Korea on court salary leaders in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the NBA. How much money you made in your career,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the top ten in the NBA just.
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  Speaker 4: From your salary, endorsements and everything else.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: That's correct, all right. And here's the question to you,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Bill and all listeners right now in the ESPN seven
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: hundred driving in the car, do you think this money
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: that these players made are worth the money? Okay, it's
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the question now. But ten all time Anthony Davis bit
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  Speaker 1: his Korea three hundred and sixty million dollars in thirteen seasons. No.
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  Speaker 1: K number nine.
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  Speaker 3: He's injured too much. That's that's his problem. But my
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: answer for him is No.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Number nine all time Dame Lillard Weaver State thirteen years
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Dames made three hundred and sixty five million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: I will say yes because he was the face of
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: the Portland Trailblazers and he was their marquee franchise guy
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: for so many years.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Agreat number eight all time Jimmy Butler fourteen years, three
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six million.
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  Speaker 3: No, he's often injured, and he's a little Moody. Odd
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: all right, odd in Moody.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Remember if your star if your most player, but besides
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: your point guard, if your best player is Moody, your
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: whole team is Moody. No, the guy selling hot dogs
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: is Moody. In the twenty seventh row, the marketing director
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: is Moody based on because the star player quote is
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Moody at number seven all time, fifteen years in the NBA.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: And let's say Bill right now, there's a lot of
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: contentraris about him, Kawhi Lenny. He's made in his career
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy five million.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: This is a tough one because one championship, got a
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: championship in Toronto, didn't get one in San Antonio as well.
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  Speaker 1: And two yes, in twenty fourteen, so he's got two championship. No,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: he lost in twenty fourteen. Oh, he lost in twenty fourteen.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, no, pardon he won in twenty fourteen. Yeah, apologies,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: he's got two my apologies.
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  Speaker 3: I will say this, he hasn't been good as the
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: face of a franchise.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense very much?
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: He's he had the one good year in Toronto, but
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: in the other stops like the Clippers and some other
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: places where they've expected him to kind of be that face, he's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say as much as I liked the player,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: and I remember I called his games when he was
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: at San Diego State in the Mount West playing Utah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I never thought he would be this player.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no on Kawhi Leon. What would you say? Agree? No,
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  Speaker 1: Number six all time in the NBA for twenty years.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Just retired Chris Paul. He's made in Korea earnings four
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: hundred and four million dollars.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not the biggest Chris Paul fan. Spence Checkets loves
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Chris Paul, loved it. Didn't never win a championship. He's
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: got an odd personality too, but he was always I
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: always felt like he was a good leader for whatever
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: team he was on. So I'm gonna say yes on Chris.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Paul Yes, so number five, Paul George, No sixth? Why
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: he finished? Way You're so emotional.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: You could say twelve dollars and seventy seven cents and
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I would say no.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: On Paul George, I'm saying right now, four hundred and
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: six million.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: And where's that put him on the list?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Fifth all time?
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that that is that's criminal.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I like it. Bill Riley is talking about criminality.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: What do you say?
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Agreed? Okay? Number four all time? I love getting Bill
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Riley fired up like I'm fired up. James Harden four
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: hundred and eleven million dollars in sixteen seasons. No, No, agreed? No?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: All right? Number three?
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: You know one of the great what ifs of all time?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: What if Oklahoma City would not have traded him or
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: let that? I don't They didn't trade him, they let
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: him go. They don't even walk.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: They couldn't play me. They paid Serge ibaka search Abo.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: It was a nice player, but they for all the
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: credit that Sam Presty gets.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: That was.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: But I would have loved to see he and Durant
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: and Westbrook.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about a team.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know how Nick Collison and Nick Collison, your
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: guy who you coached in Seattle, and they had some
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: other good players too. I just would have loved to
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: see if that team stayed together. I think they might
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: have won a championship.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Agreed.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, A big no though on James Harden.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, number three, the world's greatest shooter of all time,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: both off the dribble. Stay, Sherry, you don't even have
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: to tell me the number here, Steph Curry. In sixteen
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: years he's made as far as Korea earnings four hundred
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and seventy million dollars.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: You could have told me.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: You could have doubled that number and said he made
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: nine hundred and forty million dollars, and I would have
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: still said it was he was underpaid. Steph Curry. You
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: can't put it. You could ask is it is it
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: the Lakeups that own the Warriors. Yes, you could ask
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Joe Lacob and his family and they would tell you
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: whatever we have paid him isn't nearly enough.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: So the answer is yes.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: On Steph Curry number two, all times, I agree one
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: hundred percent. Remember both alluding to it. Besides the winning,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: it's the signage. The whole thing about him as far
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: as it's economic, wherewith aw he with the franchise.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: The people he has brought to the game of basketball
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: that has put butts in the seats, Jersey, selling in Jersey.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's everything. He has been an ambassador for
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: the game and for the Warriors, all of it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: So yes on Steph Curry number two all time, Kevin Durant.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: In eighteen years, he's made five hundred and one million dollars.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: This one's tougher.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I just.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Durant is a weirdo.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: He is.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: He's just one of those. He's a fantastic basketball player.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: He really plays one end of the floor. He's picked
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: his spots career wise where he'll it's situationally, will play
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: a little defense.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: He is a mercenary. Wouldn't you say that he is
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: a hired gun. He is a mercenary. Whether it was
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma City or Golden State. The Brooklyn thing was always
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: the weird thing to me. He left a dynasty.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: To go to Brooklyn with Kyrie Irving.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it's we I mean those two are
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: made for each other. Although I will say Alex Jensen
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: loves Kyrie Irving. He coached him in Dallas thinks Kyrie
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: is a bit misunderstood great basketball player.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: How much did Kevin Durant make.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Five oh one million second old.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Time half a billion dollars? Yes, he's got what championships
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: led by his sidekick, and they were never his team
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: that was stepped. I didn't even tell you it was
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Raymond he was.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: He may have been the second best player, but he
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: was the fourth banana on that team.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Correct. I'll say no on Kevin Durant. Okay, I'm gonna
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: lean towards it like yes, Okay, I'll thank you. Yes,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and the number one player of all time we all know.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: We talked about him in the recently a few minutes ago,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: twenty three years in the NBA, Lebron James has made
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Korea wise salary five hundred and eighty one million dollars.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: It's a resounding yes. Lebron James is. Whether you like
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: him or don't like him. What's funny to me, Gordy
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: about even the seventies, He's always getting a choose accused
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: of chasing the ring.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Isn't that what everybody does?
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Doesn't everybody want to play with good players and do
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: things like that? He showed early in his career. His
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: greatness when he carried that Cleveland Cavaliers team that had
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: no business that was it O seven? They went to
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: the championship at seven. Yeah, they had no business being there.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: It was like Booby Hobbes and was it no boot?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Sasha Plovich?
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Was it boot?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Was? Was it? Was it? Movie? Hobbs Gibson.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Do Booby Gibbs Booby Hobbs played for Utah. Yeah, but
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: there aren't a lot of boobies in sports. I got
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: my boobies mixed up. I don't cut that, James. I
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: worry about leave that alone. I worry about you.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: I mean he's great and what he's done, I mean
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: he's he's just he's a great He's not the greatest
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: player of all time. He's had the he's probably had
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: the greatest lengthy career. I mean the level he's playing
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: at for and his career earnings are five hundred and
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: sixty million, is that what it is?
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: One?
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: And he's taken three point eight this year. I mean, yeah,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Lebron James absolutely positively worth every penny that he's earned.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: That that the that the Calves, the Lakers, the heat
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: now the Sixers have paid him.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: All right quickly, just from a jazz players. There's four names.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Hud you go bear in his Korea in twelve seasons,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety five million dollars to ninety five
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: worth it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, okay, he he is what he is. I mean,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: you're not expecting Rudy to score twenty five a game.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Rudy is an elite rebounder and rim protector and by
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: the way, screener, screener, and he was a better teammate
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: than people gave him credit for. Donovan Mitchell was the
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: problem here, not Rudy Gobert. We know that now.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: We didn't know.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: That at the time, but that that's that's the deal.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: So I yeah, I mean two hundred ninety five million
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: over how many years?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Twelve years? Yeah, I think that's fair for Rudy Gobert,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: all right. Mike Conley twenty fifth all time, right behind him, really,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Mike Conley, Yeah, nineteen season the NBA. It's the first
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: thing he made for his Korea and celts right now
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: to ninety five.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: All so, I like Mike Conley a lot. He's a
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: really good guy and he seemed like a good team man.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure that he's worth tw undred ninety five million.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I just two more former jazz people. Number thirty one
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: all time career earnings, Kevin Love in seventeen seasons.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Are you really I think Kevin Love was a jazz.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Guy absolutely one year? Absolutely? Okay, Kevin Love to seventy seven?
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: No, he's he was a good player with the t
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Wolves early in his career, helped Cleveland win that title
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: with Lebron. But I don't think he's worth two hundred
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: and seventy seven million, do you?
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: No? No?
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: But I'd like I like his game and the less
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: injuries kind of I mean around body. Yeah, his body
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: kind of broke down there.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: And the last one is this person that the thirty
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: third highest ever career earnings former jazz man for nine seasons.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I'm preferencing this Gordon Hayward in the NBA fourteen years
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: he made in his seventy million. No, all right, so
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you no? I agree?
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Now, I mean, Gordon Hayward was just a one time,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: also good NBA player. I'm not big grudging him making
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: the money. He didn't put that gun to anybody's head
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: and say you've got to pay me this.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: They paid him the money. But I mean, he's just
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: a good NBA basketball players.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: So much the economics is the timing of your career,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: like when you played and what the team needed, and
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: are you coming off a really a stellar season and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the year before that team let a good player go
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: because they were arguing over a five million dollar increase.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: So the following year you're the benefactor of it. Will
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: last year we let a guy go that we regret.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Now we've got to sign this guy. And that's so
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: much as I called circumstantial as far as beneficial to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: your career. So that's my mini list today. I wanted
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to see what people thought of it. Lebron James though
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: with the seventy six ers now I built, I've read
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: a thing about it. Also, there's twenty one players in
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: college basketball that make more money than Lebron James this
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: year in IL money, So Lebron makes this year the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: lotion getting which Bill Lebron, He's making three point eight
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: eight million. There's twenty one guys making more money and
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: nil money in college basketball.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Go back to your days of coaching in the Big
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: East with the Providence Friars. Yes, who would have been
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: the highest paid player nil Wise when you.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Were coaching in the Big East. Okay, Derek Coleman.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Derek Coleman, second Piggert to Drew Patrick Ewing, Absolutely,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Patrick Ewing. Chris Mullen, tell me the guy that you
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: think would have would have gotten.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: The most, Patrick Patrick. Oh yeah, Patrick Ewing? Yeah, okay, Patrick,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: well and well deserved. And Patrick Ewing right now, ironically
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: is now assistant coach of the Wizards. He's in the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: coach Agent debotser Yeah, yeah, okay, So talk about going
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: full circle. And like Bill, I love getting you fired
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: up right now. I mentioned a few guys names. Bill,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: you have your game face on, you have your utah
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: fourth and one at the goal line, you describing it
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: as the as the tackle makes a great block and
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: the running back tiptoes in.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: By the way, don't ever take the ball when you've
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: got a quarterback like Devin Dan Pierre. Don't never take
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: the ball out of his hands on fourth and short.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, I like it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he has to carry it, but I'm
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: saying he has to touch it and make the defense reacting.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, would you agree?
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Do you ever take the ball out of Michael Jordan's hand?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: And use him as a decoy. No, the answers absolutely no.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: No.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: When you've got a star player you get, especially at
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: a quarterback spot, you make sure that they get they
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: have the ball in their hands and let them make
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: the decision.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: You just describe Patrick Mahomes.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, him too. Got a text question for you, Gordy.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Matt sends this in today. Says Gordy, what did Sloan
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: do during summer league?
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Okay? He observed He's in the stands observing.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Old it was Saltly Community College back in those days.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: He would sit up in the stand because I sat up.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: I was sat and sitting in the sands too.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: You hate observe it. And he would tell he would
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: take some either visual notes or mental notes about the play,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and after the game become in the locker room and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: he would address the team and just talk to him
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: a few minutes about what they should keep working on.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: What did you do during summer league? Okay? I used
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: to coach the team, yep, for all those years, for
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: sixteen years, and we used to get the guy again.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: We always talked about your job is to try to
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: The question is philosophically, how can we as coaches showcase
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: your talent individual talent within what a team game. That's
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: the question. So when we said he just swing the
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: ball from side to side on the second side of
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the floor, that's a great chance for you to go
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: organized one on one. And that's the reason we always
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: say organize one on one. And that gives a great
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: chance for the rebounders to carve out space to offensive
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: rebound to showcase what they're serious hops or what their
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: attitude to rebound in traffic. Defensively, can you guard your
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: own man and you can you play help to help
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: with defense. So that's what we talked about all the
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: time in summer league. It transferred over to what game
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: skills with the real team, the varsity, meaning what Utah jefs.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Did you enjoy coaching summer league?
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Oh very much, yeah, because you know that a lot
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: of times your career that probably a decree of a player.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: You're putting him in a game and encourage him. At
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: one time, we'll say with a it was Howard Eisley
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: where he struggled with his young player. He struggled. He
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: struggled in a sumer league game where he couldn't make
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: a shot. I remember saying I remember saying to him,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I am not taking you out of this game. You're
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna fight through this. And he did, and
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: then suddenly in that fourth quarter he goes five for five.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: It helps him give confidence. But more importantly, you remember,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: besides your own team looking at you, there's other twenty
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: nine teams in European teams that are looking at you
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to see if you can play for them. So it's
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: way beyond just the one team. It's the whole league
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: watching you. It's a pretty intense.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Another text question in here, This one comes in and says, Gordy,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: with almost every star moving in today's game, Steph is
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: on his last year? Do we think he le Steph
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: is on his last year? Do we think he leaves
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: or retires with Golden State?
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Golden State retires, Yeah, he's not.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: He's not going to play.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: So if he was going to play someplace else, I
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: think he would have done that by now.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: By now, yeah, exactly the last two three years. The Warriors,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: they're one in twenty two, which is really a Whi's
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: really a great accomplishment. So now this is this is
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: already the twenty six, twenty seventh season, he's there right now,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: and I hope he stays really truly. And also I
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: think that Cooper Flagg would also stay with the Maps
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: because he's gonna be the face of the franchise. And
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: then Bill the Spurs, Victor Wenbiyama, Stephen Castle, Dylan Harper,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: that crew, if they should do everything possible to keep
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: those guys together, goes. All three of those guys are
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: young people, they have winning games, and all three are
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: play in harmony and rhythm, and that's what makes the
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Spurs so interesting.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Do you think Steve Curry retires win?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Curry retires so well the contract, Well are two
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: years left in his contract. He resigned it, and he's
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the highest paid coach in the NBA at seventeen million
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: dollars a year. He's worth it. I think he will.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I just don't feel like he would want to stick
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: around for a rebuild. No, he would not not. I mean,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: you're gonna Draym on side a one year deal. Steph's
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: got a year or so left. I just I kind
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: of feel like, well, Steph's got two years left. Yeah
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: that's right now. Yeah, but they just kind of they
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: kind of walk off together.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: What do you expect very much. And as far as
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the mathematics of it, Steve Kerr, he's born in sixty five,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: so now right now he's sixty one years Bill young,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: emphasize young. So he does stay for two years, he'll
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: be eight sixty three, Bill in this generation as a
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: young man.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Still, Okay? Another list? Or was that your only list?
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Another list? Bill? And I knew this purposely because you
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: and James Peterson. There's our annual list. Bill. I'm so
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: happy you're here today for a lot of reasons. Here
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: we go quickly and listen to it. Right now, you're
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: driving I fifteen, you're in traffic. Think about us here
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: in the student Yo, fun and yell out the name
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: and beat the horn. Fun nicknames are former or present
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: NBA players. Fun nicknames. Yes, some of the nicknames are
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: self annoyed, my dad. So here we go, Bill, you
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: and James Peterson. First nickname? Big ticket? Who is it?
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: The big ticket is.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Agreed? The worm that's Dennis Rodman, z bo Zach Randolph correct,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: the BOSSI and Beast Nurkics correct, Yusuf Nurkic, who calls
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: him that everybody was self annoyed? And also I call
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: him the BOSSI and beasts of course. The Kangaroo Kid,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Kangaroo Kid. You know, Bill fous you're famous, he's famous. Yesteryear, yesteryear.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Kangaroo Kid, make a jump, he can sky in the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Billingham cunning him really, yeah, Kangaroo Kid.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Uncle Jeff, that's Jeff Uh, he's Tony Jones. This guy,
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: the guy from Georgetown, Jeff Green, Yeah, all right, flesh,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Ben Gordon, Dwayne Wade, Dryne Wade, the Great Wall.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man correct? I love it. Yeah, don't you love?
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I love don't you love basketball? All right? The Bald
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Mama Alex Caruso. Alex Caruso gave him that nickname Bill
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: again again. I love your attitude. I love it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: I like Alex Caruso player.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Self anointed Bill. People have nicknames, you know. Or the
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: white Mamba, no bald mamba. Yeah, absolutely so. Isn't it
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: somebody a white mamba too? Yeah? What is it? See that? Bill?
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I mean she was friendly with Kobe, but hey whatever.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: The chef chef chef because he's always cooking chef curry.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right, birdman. Uh. Anderson, Chris Anderson, the Dream Okay,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Bill up your confidence here, Human Highlight Film, Dominic Wilkins.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: See Bill, I'm trying to get your confidence up a
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: little shaky before the Joker Yokovic, d book d book Booker,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: that's right, Devin Booker in the Suns, the Custodian, Brian Cardinal,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: that's right, Brian Cardinal.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: Sweet Lou Lou Williams.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: You got that.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: But the minivan.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: George and they all right, Iceman George Gervin. Bill Again,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get your confidence a little shaky right now,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: you a little shaky. That's right. I'm trying to help you.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: The glove, Gary Peyton, Ice Tray, Ice Tray, Yeah, Ice Tray,
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Trey Young, Trey Young. Half stories earned that again, self annoyed.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: You guys have an attitude about this because this is
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: self annoyed, this is social media, this is twenty twenty six. Quickly,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: here we go, half Man, half amazing. You know you
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: know him, You guys know Vince Carter vinsanity, half man,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: half amazed, self annoyed. Uncle Drew, that's Kyrie Irving, you
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: got it. Jimmy Buckets, Jimmy Butler, correct Wodinny of the Hardwood,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Bob Kuzzy correct, Doctor Dunkenstein, Daryl Griffith, Okay, just few more.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Truck Leonard, Truck Robinson correct. I like your confidence. I
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: gave you his first name, even Leonard. Most people just
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: called him Truck red velvet in the NBA right now.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh is that Kevin Herder correct? Haven't
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: heard it. See James Peterson is an historian. I don't
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: know how I know the Seriously.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: Kevin Herder doesn't even deserve it.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Nick Love Bill, I love your attitude, your game based
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: on playing right now, get the UTA on the phone,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: football right now. You should be the linebacker today. I'm
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: ready to go right. The slim Reefer Reaper. Oh, it's
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: you know, we just talked about him, d the last one,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the last one, all right, mad Dog Mark Madson, that's
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: exactly right.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Former u v U Wolverine head coach and former Utah Flash.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Thus Bill Rowdy, the head coach of
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the Cal Bears. That's right, Cal Berkeley, thust Bill Rally.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: That is my list of today. I'm so happy that
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: you have this attitude towards self anointed players given their
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: own nickname.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Amen cousin, Amen, Gordon Chiason, Gordy, you can't make this
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: stuff up.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Oh you can't, you cannot. I know, I know exactly
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: what you're saying. This stuff you cannot make up. I
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: agree you should not make this stuff up. He is
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: my good friend and the Great Gordon Chiasa. Always a
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: thrill to have him on board to list today. Wow,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: thanks big day, peace out, peace out to you, Gordon,