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Capítulo 039: Interview with Alejandra Pablos · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: Radio. Radio Radio commis a myth and bullshit, a radio
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Speaker 1: phonic novella. Local Radio hosted by Malamo Olalla. Welcome back
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Speaker 1: to local Radio, Loca Mortis, Welcome back. This is Ma
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Speaker 1: La and this is Diosa and we are last look
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Speaker 1: at Radio recording once again at Radio Espacio and boil Heights.
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Speaker 1: how to find us. And last time on radio was
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Speaker 1: our firm Defense Capital and we interviewed Malayo, Wilson Green
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Speaker 1: and U. Today we're gonna business as usual. We're going
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Speaker 1: to talk about a bunch of things and then for
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Speaker 1: the second half of this we're gonna have Alejandro Bablos.
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Speaker 1: She's a nationally recognized immigrant rights activists and reproductive rights
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Speaker 1: activists based in Washington, d C. And she was recently
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Speaker 1: detained by Ice and held held at Eloy Detention Center
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Speaker 1: in Arizona. She's also a part of the organization. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is a really incredible interview with Alejandra Fablos, and
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Speaker 1: we're extremely, extremely, extremely grateful that she's taking the time
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Speaker 1: to call us. She's actually calling us from Virginia. Um,
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Speaker 1: she'll be calling us from Virginia to have this conversation
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Speaker 1: about her history, her story, her time in an immigration
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Speaker 1: detention center, and ways that we can we can help
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Speaker 1: and support. Yes. Yes, So before we get into that interview,
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Speaker 1: we have some updates that we want to share with
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Speaker 1: our local Motives. Dates are listeners. So if you've been
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Speaker 1: following us, if you've been keeping up with us on Instagram, Facebook,
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Speaker 1: and Twitter, personal I g s and everything, you know
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Speaker 1: that we have our very first local live and podcast party.
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm so excited. So what chall don't
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Speaker 1: know is that this event has been in the works
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Speaker 1: for months. For a while, we've been we've been plotting
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Speaker 1: on this event. We've been plotting on this event. We've
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Speaker 1: really been working on it. Like this morning, we got
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Speaker 1: together early, which you know, it's really hard for It's
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Speaker 1: so funny because I was like, Ma, La, let's get
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Speaker 1: together at nine am. I was like, Okay, perfect, let's
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Speaker 1: do it. Probably why we didn't meet up until like
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Speaker 1: ten twenty, but we met up. But we met up.
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Speaker 1: But it was funny because it was like we didn't
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Speaker 1: even acknowledge like oh yeah, we're gonna be late, or
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, I on my way. We were just like, no,
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Speaker 1: we get there, We get there. Yeah no, And I
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Speaker 1: think I think we're in our rhythm now that we know,
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Speaker 1: like we need at least forty five minute for some
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Speaker 1: things right, for some things we need we need that
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Speaker 1: grace period. Schedule ourselves. We have to light ourselves and
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Speaker 1: schedule ourselves earlier and it helps though it works because
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Speaker 1: it works. So this morning um Mala and I met
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Speaker 1: Malan I met and then we went around l A.
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Speaker 1: We went around downtown l A, a little Tokyo the
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Speaker 1: arts districts boil Heights, which is obviously where we record,
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Speaker 1: and UM sixth Street in downtown LA in spring, and
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Speaker 1: we were doing some flyering putting our flyers out there,
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Speaker 1: going into local businesses, coffee shops and okay, Starbucks s
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Speaker 1: garbage right books, you know, they get a lot of
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Speaker 1: foot traffic. So we went into a Starbucks. Mala went
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Speaker 1: in and I was like, you know, driving the getaway car,
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Speaker 1: and um, what happened? Mala? Well, it was so cute
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Speaker 1: because we were like tag teaming, like yes, I would
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Speaker 1: like pull up to the curve and I would jump
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Speaker 1: out and then we go and we're each like flyering.
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Speaker 1: So I walked into the Starbucks and I'm like, hey, like,
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Speaker 1: is it okay if I leave some flyers here for
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Speaker 1: an event? And the mole head that was there working
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Speaker 1: behind the counter shout out if you're watching listening listening?
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Speaker 1: She was like, oh my god, Like I love you. You
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Speaker 1: You can leave whatever you want here. She's like, you
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Speaker 1: can leave whatever you want, whatever you want. I'm like, what,
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you looking more? Are your listener?
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Speaker 1: She's like, yes, I love the podcast. So I hope
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Speaker 1: you come to our party. If you're listening, please come
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Speaker 1: to the party. Please come to the live show. So
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Speaker 1: just and then there was more. There was more. Behold
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Speaker 1: that I realized that we've been talking about the live show,
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Speaker 1: and we haven't talked about logistics. That's true. Should we
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Speaker 1: finish our story about and then do a whole logistics excitement? Okay, okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: okay ahead, okay. So that was super cute. Mama came
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Speaker 1: back to the car. She was all excited and um. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: So we kept driving, kept flying and we're like, okay, Mama,
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Speaker 1: it's about to be it's about to be noon. We
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Speaker 1: gotta go back to the studio. We gotta record. So
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Speaker 1: we're getting into the car and we hear cheek us
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Speaker 1: cheekas chicas. So we turned back and there was a
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Speaker 1: listener and running towards us, and she goes, I'm a listener.
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Speaker 1: I love y'all. And I guess she was also there
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Speaker 1: with her two children, her two boys, and they were
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Speaker 1: the ones that were like, aren't those the girls that
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Speaker 1: you follow? Exactly? So super freaking cute. So hopefully on
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Speaker 1: our party. So shout out to our listeners that are
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Speaker 1: out and about that are doing a damn thing that
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Speaker 1: run into us. Say hi to us, Please say hi,
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Speaker 1: Please say hi when you see us. It's a little
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Speaker 1: bit it's a little bit weird for us, like which
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Speaker 1: this has started happening, happening more and more. If we
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Speaker 1: get like a d M like way later randomly like hey,
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Speaker 1: I saw you. I saw you at X, Y, and
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Speaker 1: Z location, but I didn't say hi. And I'm like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, because sometimes I'm out here like sometimes
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I don't know where
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Speaker 1: you've seen me or in what state I've been, So
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Speaker 1: just say hi. So I know that's so funny. I'm
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Speaker 1: aware of myself. This is like, I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: podcast related. But the other day I was in my
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Speaker 1: community and I actually saw Vanessa Romo, the model she was.
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Speaker 1: She was on model behavior. I think that was gonna
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Speaker 1: be a little sinkle or something like that was back
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Speaker 1: in the summer and I saw her, she saw me.
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Speaker 1: We were standing in line at a I was standing
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Speaker 1: in line at a restaurant waiting to order, and she
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Speaker 1: came up to me and she was like, is that thesa.
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Speaker 1: It was really funny because because it happened in my community.
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Speaker 1: But needless to say, if you're if you see us,
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Speaker 1: say hi to HII. If you're listeners, say hi. If
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Speaker 1: you're a listener. If you're a listener, listeners, say hi.
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Speaker 1: Specifically yes if you say hi. Right. Anyways, So any
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Speaker 1: party that we keep talking about, right, okay, So the
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Speaker 1: party Local Live, a podcast party, will be at Civic
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Speaker 1: Center Studios on Friday, May eighteen. And this is really
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Speaker 1: really important. So the live show begins promptly. Literally, we
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Speaker 1: are not on Local Hour, No, promptly, We're on White
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Speaker 1: Girl Hour or someever you want to call. Vamos started
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Speaker 1: super super and based on we started nine nine pm.
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Speaker 1: The live show begins, and then at ten o'clock the
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Speaker 1: after party starts and we'll d d J Sizzle and
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Speaker 1: DJ Zuti will be spinning on the ones and twos.
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Speaker 1: And very very special detail about our life show is
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Speaker 1: that we're going to have two guests, very special guests.
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Speaker 1: So I'm sure if you listen to the podcast, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to assume that you've seen Fattle like Um you've
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Speaker 1: seen which is a segment right produced by BuzzFeed. So
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Speaker 1: Fattle Like two of their like personalities comedians, actors, actresses
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Speaker 1: that you've probably seen in a lot of the Federal
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Speaker 1: like videos and skits on Instagram and online. Curly Curly
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Speaker 1: Velasquez and Maya Murio also known as Maya in the moment.
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Speaker 1: They're going to be joining us on May eighteen at
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Speaker 1: our live podcast party as our special guests. So I
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Speaker 1: don't want to give away too much of the live show,
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Speaker 1: but it's gonna be it really is literally going to
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Speaker 1: be look at the Alive. It's going to be our
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Speaker 1: segments that we do, but brought to life onto a
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Speaker 1: stage in an interactive way. And it's maybe so fun
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Speaker 1: basically like it's gonna be what you hear, but even
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Speaker 1: better because it's not going to be just Myla and
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Speaker 1: I talking who y'all. We're gonna be talking with y'all.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna be engaging the crowd. It's going to be
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Speaker 1: super super interactive, less talk, more like movement and sharing.
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Speaker 1: And we're not going to give away because it's like literally,
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Speaker 1: you just you just have to be there. You have
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Speaker 1: to be there. So before we move on to our
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Speaker 1: next topic, I want to read Curly and Maya's bio
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Speaker 1: um so in case you're not familiar with them, or
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Speaker 1: even if you are, they are doing some incredible work,
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Speaker 1: uh in this industry or just in life in general,
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Speaker 1: So I want to read their biosh. Curly Velasquez is
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Speaker 1: a l A based artist. Who celebrates all things latin
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Speaker 1: X and beautiful. He began his career in fashion, working
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Speaker 1: for celebrity photographer David la Chapelle and design icon Jeremy
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Speaker 1: Scott before starting his own line. By the age of
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Speaker 1: twenty five, he was celebrated as one of the designers
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Speaker 1: in l A by H and M and directed a
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Speaker 1: music video for Interscope Records. Curly beg and working with
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Speaker 1: BuzzFeed as an office receptionist and worked his way onto
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Speaker 1: the Shorter than short Form team creating original artwork and
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Speaker 1: animations for Snapchat. His interest in producing eventually led him
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Speaker 1: to the video side, where he currently acts as a
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Speaker 1: lead creator for Buzzfeeds latin X division Bettle Like Shout Out,
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Speaker 1: Give Clo. Following Instagram, he has also started his own
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Speaker 1: platform called New and You latin X, where he highlights
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Speaker 1: latin X artists, creators, musicians, everyone creative all across you know,
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Speaker 1: the US and beyond obviously across mediums. Um So give
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Speaker 1: that A follows Laut's at New and You latin X
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Speaker 1: on Instagram and then our other guests. Maya Murio um.
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Speaker 1: At the age of sixteen, Maya Murio started her blog
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Speaker 1: Maya in the Moment dot com, which featured crafts, skits
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Speaker 1: and ukulele covers. She established a following through her Quirkies
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Speaker 1: six second videos on Vine and customized love songs on
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Speaker 1: You Too. She was once nominated as an influencer by
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Speaker 1: Latina magazine for hashtag Latina thirty or thirty Awards and
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Speaker 1: considered one of six Latinas you should definitely be following
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Speaker 1: on fine by Cosmopolitan. So now she's a producer at
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Speaker 1: Buzzfeeds Latin X channel. Betill Like and Maya is twenty
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Speaker 1: five years old and lives in Los Angeles, California. So
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Speaker 1: we are like in a real good company right now
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Speaker 1: with our two guests. They're hilarious, they're dynamic. Um, I
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Speaker 1: think that the show is going to be a lot
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Speaker 1: of fun. We have other like promotional stuff that we're
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Speaker 1: gonna share if you are at the live show, if
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Speaker 1: you get there in time, like the first sixty people. Basically,
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Speaker 1: there are special things for you, special incentives, so look
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Speaker 1: out for those. We're gonna talk more about that on
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Speaker 1: the Instagram. I think yes, we are um, Like we said,
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Speaker 1: you do not want to miss this. If you can
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Speaker 1: come out, please come. It's five dollars if you get
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Speaker 1: there at nine pm, and if you get there just
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Speaker 1: for the party, it's ten dollars. Yeah, so if you're
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Speaker 1: getting there after ten, there's going to be ten dollars
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Speaker 1: for the after party. But if you get there at nine,
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Speaker 1: you get the show and the party for five bucks
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Speaker 1: and there's gonna be drinks and lots of cute things. Merch.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a merch table. We're gonna have merched.
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Speaker 1: Do we want to show? Oh yes, okay, so if
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Speaker 1: you're watching on these um so we have an example.
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Speaker 1: We have a new Villa DA. It's a white candle
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Speaker 1: and we have um our logo printed on it and
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Speaker 1: it's really cute, it's really pretty. You've seen them in
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Speaker 1: the past, or we've showed them in the past, but
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Speaker 1: we've never had them for sale before. Um So we're
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Speaker 1: gonna have literally a limited amount um of these candles
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Speaker 1: because this is just something special for the for the party,
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Speaker 1: for the show. Um It's actually since it is just
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Speaker 1: a two person show, right, it is hard for us
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Speaker 1: to manage the merch, you know what I mean, to
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Speaker 1: be the ones U right to manage the whole of it.
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Speaker 1: But just in general, like merch in general, like the
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Speaker 1: shipping of it is has been difficult for us, and we, like,
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Speaker 1: I want to be transparent about that. So I think
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Speaker 1: moving forward we're going to be like doing like special
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Speaker 1: merch just in person and when we have pop ups
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Speaker 1: and stuff, when we have events, you have to come see.
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Speaker 1: Basically you gotta to us. Um yes, okay, and then um.
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Speaker 1: At the end of the month, we're also going to
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Speaker 1: be hosting for the second time. We're going to be
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Speaker 1: hosting UM with La Junta l a there annual memorial
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Speaker 1: weekend that the other which is on Sunday May And
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Speaker 1: this is the first party we ever hosted. Last year,
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Speaker 1: so flashback to a year ago, David actually reached out
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Speaker 1: David shout Out from that, he reached out to us
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Speaker 1: and he connected he was connected to us Bicizzle, so
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Speaker 1: shout out Sizzle, and he asked us to host and
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Speaker 1: we were like, Mama, do we host? Oh? Flash flash
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Speaker 1: forward now and we have a lot of hosting things
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Speaker 1: under our beltum, so shout out because they I think
12:50
Speaker 1: they saw the potential in the podcast before we even
12:53
Speaker 1: knew it, right, they saw what else we could branch
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Speaker 1: out and do. We had no idea that was even
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Speaker 1: an option, right, and well now it's something that we
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Speaker 1: love to do and we're hosting our own parties as well, right, Okay,
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Speaker 1: So anyway, so going back, Um is going to be performing.
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Speaker 1: She's gonna do a live show, a live set. If
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Speaker 1: you went to the all women's show that we hosted
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Speaker 1: with Sizzle back in March, she also performed if you
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Speaker 1: couldn't If you couldn't catch her, then come out and
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Speaker 1: if you did, come out and watch her again. And
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Speaker 1: then also GINGI, a DJ, will be there, and this
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Speaker 1: is they're all women's line up. They're all women's show
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Speaker 1: that they do Ja does. So it'll be from four
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Speaker 1: pm to ten pm on a Sunday. Five dollar pre sale,
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Speaker 1: ten dollars at the door, and it's at in downtown
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Speaker 1: l A. And it's a fun party. It's a fun party.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's the vibe. It's at the rooftop
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Speaker 1: and you know we love rooftop parties. Catch us. They're
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Speaker 1: all I need to buy a dress. I want to
13:50
Speaker 1: go looking like super cute. I want to be very
13:53
Speaker 1: like tropical. Yes, yes, yes, extrocute tropical. Anyways, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: have another you know, he's schedule shopping days to find
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Speaker 1: outfits for events and occasions, and we're like, well, there's
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Speaker 1: no time, but we need a shopping day. We need
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Speaker 1: a stylist, we need a shopping budget, we need a
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Speaker 1: shop a shopping team, right right, because sometimes we just
14:17
Speaker 1: can't make it out ourselves, right, yeah, yeah, sometimes we're
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Speaker 1: just Okay. So now we're going to get into our
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Speaker 1: loca segments, our favorite our favorite listener questions. Alright, alrighty,
14:38
Speaker 1: what do you want to know? Now? What do you
14:40
Speaker 1: want to know? Now? Okay, in a nicer way, So
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Speaker 1: today we're gonna be answering some questions, and some of you'
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Speaker 1: all have asked us we love the questions. We do
14:50
Speaker 1: love the questions. We love the questions just being myself anyway. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So the very first question that we're gonna be answering
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Speaker 1: today is how can someone be independent while in a relationship.
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Speaker 1: It's a really good question. This is a really hard balance,
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Speaker 1: so hard, so hard. I don't have any for you.
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Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for you. I think that
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Speaker 1: my last relationship was extremely like dependent codependent code dependent,
15:18
Speaker 1: because I it was like it was a two year relationship.
15:21
Speaker 1: There was a year where I was like never home.
15:24
Speaker 1: I was like not at my house for like a
15:26
Speaker 1: year because I was at homeboy friend all the time.
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Speaker 1: And I like neglected my family a lot, and I
15:32
Speaker 1: think I neglected my friends a lot, and like my
15:34
Speaker 1: individual projects, I wasn't working on a lot of things.
15:37
Speaker 1: I published some pieces like with Vibe and stuff, but
15:41
Speaker 1: then I wasn't like doing my stuff. I was working
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Speaker 1: and I was like relationshipping and that was kind of
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Speaker 1: a I was partying, but he was always care every
15:53
Speaker 1: time I went out with my friends, he was always there,
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Speaker 1: and like it's that balance of oh, that's cute, like
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Speaker 1: your man, like, well party with you and let's you go,
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Speaker 1: but it's not even that, it's no right here, right here.
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Speaker 1: So that was a balance that I was not able
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Speaker 1: to strike in my last relationship. So I think that's
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Speaker 1: why I really am going to be alone for quite
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Speaker 1: quite a while. I'm gonna be alone for the longest time.
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Speaker 1: I feel like in my soul, in my bones, because
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Speaker 1: I need this well I've I've also seen this conversation
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Speaker 1: happen online where where women women especially specifically, will say, um,
16:27
Speaker 1: I enjoy my time so much alone. I enjoyed my
16:30
Speaker 1: alone time so much like my time with you must
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Speaker 1: feel even better, you know what I mean, Like I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to compromise my own time that I love
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Speaker 1: to do what I love to do to be with
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Speaker 1: you if I can't do what I love to do.
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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? It makes so much sense because
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Speaker 1: especially now, like I'm almost a year out of it basically,
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Speaker 1: and like only well, okay, there's breakups are it's like
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Speaker 1: a right because there might have been a break but
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Speaker 1: they're still contacts. Even if you don't necessarily want contact,
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Speaker 1: there's still contact the contact, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: In my circumstance, there was unwanted contact for a long
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Speaker 1: period of time. But anyway, so um, I'm like now
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Speaker 1: just now, in the past three or four months, really
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Speaker 1: getting into my fucking groove right, And like a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, it really hit me where I was
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Speaker 1: just like at home, like with my dog, like in
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Speaker 1: my cute like little space, watching a movie. You're working
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Speaker 1: on whatever I was working on. It was, I was
17:28
Speaker 1: probably working on something related to the podcast, just working
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Speaker 1: on podcast stuff, and I just looked around it myself
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Speaker 1: in my life and I was like, oh my God,
17:35
Speaker 1: I'm so cute. I'm having so much fun. Like I
17:38
Speaker 1: literally can do whatever the funk I want, and I
17:41
Speaker 1: do and it's amazing and fabulous and so I feel
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Speaker 1: that a h. So it sounds like this question is
17:49
Speaker 1: more like what do you do when you're single? You
17:52
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Question no, because I think there's
17:56
Speaker 1: a conversation around like um, like there's like not a
17:59
Speaker 1: stigma too strong of a word, but there's like this
18:01
Speaker 1: idea that when you're single, you're like lonely, or you're born,
18:04
Speaker 1: or you're like you're unhappy, or you're looking right. And
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Speaker 1: Milla has just shown that you're she's not looking girl.
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Speaker 1: She's good, she's happy, she's got her groove, she's doing it.
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Speaker 1: So shout out to all our single listeners that are
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Speaker 1: like happy and comfortable and like you know, figuring their
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Speaker 1: sh out because here's how you really This is how
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Speaker 1: I really knew. This is how I really knew that
18:24
Speaker 1: I really wasn't trying to do all this getting to
18:26
Speaker 1: know you, fall in love, open my heart, you know,
18:29
Speaker 1: they're getting to know you as like like because the
18:33
Speaker 1: opportunities are there, I do just fine, you know what
18:36
Speaker 1: I mean? Like the opportunities are there. It's not like
18:39
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm deserted in the desert, like I'm okay.
18:44
Speaker 1: If I wanted to reach out and hang out with somebody,
18:46
Speaker 1: I could. I just don't want to write. I don't
18:49
Speaker 1: feel like it. I don't want to. I have no
18:52
Speaker 1: draw or desire. And it's not for lack of like opportunity.
18:56
Speaker 1: It's for like, no, my energy is just completely I'm like, like,
19:01
Speaker 1: who's calling me now? Unless its are like my mom
19:07
Speaker 1: always calling. She's the only person that texts me good morning.
19:12
Speaker 1: She's like your morning. She texts me every morning morning.
19:15
Speaker 1: I do because usually have to talk about podcasting, so
19:18
Speaker 1: I always start with good morning, my love, how are
19:20
Speaker 1: you doing? Like good morning beautiful? She gives me my
19:23
Speaker 1: good morning beautiful text. I'm complete, I'm content. I don't
19:27
Speaker 1: need intimacy texting. Yes I do. I do. I do
19:33
Speaker 1: when I tell her to texting when she gets home.
19:35
Speaker 1: Nothing said if any of you have any like finance,
19:37
Speaker 1: cousins or you know whatever, you know what you know
19:41
Speaker 1: where to find me? You were right right. I'm not
19:44
Speaker 1: saying like no never, I'm just saying like, I don't
19:48
Speaker 1: feel like it right now. You have to be super special.
19:51
Speaker 1: It's gotta it's gotta be worth you rearrange in your life.
19:54
Speaker 1: Because I'm not trying to rearrange ship. Right, I read this,
19:57
Speaker 1: I'm not in reading. I like heard I listened to
19:59
Speaker 1: PO guess I read a lot of ship I do.
20:01
Speaker 1: I'm like constantly like searching for something. I don't know,
20:03
Speaker 1: That's just how I am. I'm always like reading an article,
20:06
Speaker 1: whether it's like kind of like health wellness or news.
20:10
Speaker 1: I'm just like all my brain is always like consuming stuff.
20:12
Speaker 1: And probably because of the Internet. Right, and now that
20:14
Speaker 1: I'm at an office job, I feel like I'm like, oh, yes,
20:16
Speaker 1: I'm like scrolling New York the New York Times a lot.
20:18
Speaker 1: Right Anyway, Um, I think I heard this this um
20:23
Speaker 1: this idea that once that when you're in a relationship,
20:26
Speaker 1: something kind of gives, whether that be um just time wise, right,
20:30
Speaker 1: something either gives whether you go to the gym, less,
20:33
Speaker 1: you're working on a hobby, less you're seeing your friends less,
20:36
Speaker 1: like it's really impossible to maintain everything. So kind of
20:41
Speaker 1: knowing that there is this new part of your of
20:43
Speaker 1: your life, whether that be in this case it would
20:45
Speaker 1: be the relationship, right, so kind of being able to
20:48
Speaker 1: negotiate what you're willing to spend less time on. Right. Um,
20:54
Speaker 1: for me, I think, um, the gym has been my compromise.
21:00
Speaker 1: That's always the first to go. I'm like, damn, And
21:02
Speaker 1: we drink a lot of I p as together, me
21:04
Speaker 1: and my booth. So I'm just like trying to get
21:07
Speaker 1: my spin classes in like during the week. Um. But
21:11
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's like, um, I don't have
21:13
Speaker 1: the answer, right, I'm still figuring it out. It's still
21:15
Speaker 1: like a new new issue relationship. I mean, we've been
21:18
Speaker 1: seeing each other for a year now, so I still
21:21
Speaker 1: feel like we're still in the getting to know you phase.
21:23
Speaker 1: I mean I think I know him pretty well, but
21:25
Speaker 1: still like people are constantly growing and evolving anyway. Um,
21:29
Speaker 1: So I feel like it's kind of like you kind
21:32
Speaker 1: of just figured out as you go. But if you're
21:34
Speaker 1: feeling if you're feeling isolated, then that's a different conversation.
21:38
Speaker 1: Like if you feel like your relationship doesn't allow you
21:41
Speaker 1: to see your friends, your loved ones, your family, then
21:44
Speaker 1: maybe that's something you need to consider, like why is
21:48
Speaker 1: that happening? Is it something where maybe you're just spending
21:51
Speaker 1: all your time with them, like unconsciously because you want
21:54
Speaker 1: it feels good when you're with them, or is it
21:56
Speaker 1: like you know, this person has to like schedules my
21:59
Speaker 1: day reason they want to see me on this this day,
22:01
Speaker 1: so it means I can't hang out with these people.
22:04
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Absolutely? Yeah. There's a difference between
22:08
Speaker 1: like learning how to be in a mature relationship where
22:11
Speaker 1: both of your lives like don't stop, and recognizing when
22:15
Speaker 1: actually the patterns are a red flag and this is
22:18
Speaker 1: venturing into the areas of control and manipulation, right, which
22:24
Speaker 1: it is fuzzy and they bleed into each other and
22:26
Speaker 1: sometimes you think it's one when it's the other, right,
22:29
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes we minimize in our heads like oh,
22:31
Speaker 1: like no, we just like we just really want to
22:33
Speaker 1: spend time together. But then like you haven't seen your
22:35
Speaker 1: family in a year, and then it's something else entirely actually, right,
22:41
Speaker 1: we have a second question. We do have a second question.
22:44
Speaker 1: That was a good question. That was a good question,
22:45
Speaker 1: Thank you. Um. We were really prepared to let we
22:48
Speaker 1: had we didn't have our answers prepared. Basically normally normally
22:52
Speaker 1: a lookas is like the answers that come off the
22:54
Speaker 1: top of our head, like we have the questions picked
22:56
Speaker 1: and then we're like, all right, let's answer them anyway.
22:58
Speaker 1: So this question is about UM post grad depression slash
23:04
Speaker 1: transitioning after undergrad and if we have any advice. So
23:08
Speaker 1: first off, shout out to all of our listeners, all
23:11
Speaker 1: of our local motives that are graduating this year. Congratulations, Congratulations,
23:15
Speaker 1: you did an amazing thing. UM O super heard of
23:19
Speaker 1: the people. And I want to shout out our listeners
23:22
Speaker 1: that UM brought us out to universities and are graduating.
23:27
Speaker 1: Shout out Karen. She just I believe she just walked
23:29
Speaker 1: yesterday from USC. Shout out Sasha just also walked from USC.
23:35
Speaker 1: And UM, Natalie, all these women from USC's y'all are
23:38
Speaker 1: doing the damn thing. Natalie, UM, Shout out Natalie. She
23:41
Speaker 1: actually interviewed us for her honors thesis and she UM
23:45
Speaker 1: had her back gloriate mass yesterday. And you are listeners,
23:49
Speaker 1: You guys know that we've been in a number of
23:51
Speaker 1: theis No, we've never talked about that. Let's put a
23:54
Speaker 1: pin in that. We'llcome back later anyway, So shout out
23:56
Speaker 1: Natalie because she actually was the speaker at her back
23:59
Speaker 1: glory at math yesterday and miss Tina Lawson was like,
24:03
Speaker 1: think like the keynote or something. Yeah, so she got
24:06
Speaker 1: to speak an amazing company. So congratulations sinatally, congratulations to
24:10
Speaker 1: all of our listeners, any University of Oregon heads that
24:13
Speaker 1: are graduating this year. Shout out to all of you.
24:16
Speaker 1: Shout out to UCSC students. So our I guess this
24:19
Speaker 1: is our pearls of wisdom for post grad right, what
24:22
Speaker 1: what how was your postgrad experience coming home? Because we
24:25
Speaker 1: both went away relatively right, Okay, um post grad? Um.
24:31
Speaker 1: I actually got a job immediately, so I didn't feel
24:34
Speaker 1: that like kind of like waning, like you know, because
24:38
Speaker 1: the applicate when you're applying for jobs postgrad, it's so daunting,
24:42
Speaker 1: it's horrible. Um, I was. So when I graduated in June,
24:45
Speaker 1: I still worked at my university until August September, so
24:49
Speaker 1: I still had had my job, was still making money,
24:52
Speaker 1: and I was applying so that was still kind of rough,
24:54
Speaker 1: like getting the no responses. And then I feel like
24:57
Speaker 1: when you graduate, when you're a senior, like you're getting
24:59
Speaker 1: these awards, you're getting these recognitions, and you're feeling like unstoppable,
25:03
Speaker 1: and then you're met with like all this rejection and
25:06
Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, cool, you've got a degree, all right,
25:10
Speaker 1: Well you need to have at least ten years of
25:12
Speaker 1: experience before I can hire you. So it's kind of
25:16
Speaker 1: a reality checking away. And I guess my wisdom, my
25:19
Speaker 1: pearl of wisdom would be, um, if it's possible, if
25:25
Speaker 1: it's possible, be present in this downtime that you have,
25:29
Speaker 1: and UM, it's really hard, especially if you have anxiety,
25:32
Speaker 1: to like really be present in the moment, But just
25:34
Speaker 1: if you can just try and think of maybe something
25:37
Speaker 1: new that you can start also while you're applying, whether
25:41
Speaker 1: that be um, like you know, a new hobby. I
25:44
Speaker 1: talk about new hobbies all the time, right, but like
25:46
Speaker 1: finding a new hobby, I feel like it's just really
25:48
Speaker 1: helpful when you're in these transition times because that transition
25:51
Speaker 1: unknown is really a source of anxiety and source of
25:54
Speaker 1: fear for so many people. So if there's a way
25:56
Speaker 1: that you can channel it into something new, I feel
25:59
Speaker 1: like that that you'll feel better, you know, That's just
26:02
Speaker 1: my idea. Agreed. When I came back from college. Since
26:05
Speaker 1: I went to college in Massachusetts, all of my college
26:07
Speaker 1: friends were on the East Coast. All of them were
26:09
Speaker 1: very few who were out here in l A. So
26:11
Speaker 1: I dealt with that postgrad depression, where where are my friends?
26:15
Speaker 1: And like my friends from high school, you know, like
26:18
Speaker 1: I don't keep in touch with many of them, and
26:20
Speaker 1: they keep in touch with a couple of people from
26:21
Speaker 1: high school. Um, and like it was hard for me
26:24
Speaker 1: to find a job. I was unemployed the whole summer.
26:27
Speaker 1: I got into a lot of shenanigans because when I'm board,
26:29
Speaker 1: I take to the streets and I'm doing you know
26:32
Speaker 1: with my friends who are here like you know, doing
26:33
Speaker 1: whatever at the time. But my I I volunteered right
26:36
Speaker 1: away because I couldn't find a job right away. So
26:39
Speaker 1: that's how I got State certified as a rape crisis
26:42
Speaker 1: counselor advocate. I volunteered for a year on the the
26:45
Speaker 1: Rape and Battery Hotline while I did like jobs at
26:47
Speaker 1: after school programs before I really settled into like my
26:49
Speaker 1: full time advocacy work. So I also volunteered at inner
26:53
Speaker 1: city Arts like. I did a lot of volunteering because
26:56
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to get out of the house.
26:57
Speaker 1: I can't stay here, So I volunteered at and our organization.
27:00
Speaker 1: I volunteered as a as a crisis counselor, and those
27:04
Speaker 1: things lead to opportunities and led to jobs. That's amazing.
27:07
Speaker 1: So you know, my volunteering as a crisis council crisis
27:09
Speaker 1: counselor directly translated into a full time job at the
27:12
Speaker 1: same org. So that's my advice. My other advice is,
27:15
Speaker 1: like the city that you're in now you're When you
27:19
Speaker 1: left your hometown, you were what like nineteen, now you're
27:24
Speaker 1: two in your city. I got to take that time
27:28
Speaker 1: and really experienced l A as an adult because I
27:31
Speaker 1: didn't know her, know her on that level. My my
27:34
Speaker 1: favorite bitch, Los Angeles. So that would be my other
27:38
Speaker 1: per love wisdom. It's takes the time to get reacquainted
27:40
Speaker 1: with your hometown because it's different now, and it's different
27:43
Speaker 1: for you even like your hometown like if you're you know,
27:46
Speaker 1: l A is so big, right, So like wherever you're from,
27:48
Speaker 1: specifically in l A or in l A County or wherever,
27:51
Speaker 1: and just in general whatever city you're from, wherever you're from,
27:53
Speaker 1: like if you've been gone, if you've been gone, your
27:55
Speaker 1: community has most likely changed a lot, so you know,
27:59
Speaker 1: see what resur are out there. I think Gamala said
28:01
Speaker 1: about volunteering is a really great, really great idea, and
28:04
Speaker 1: it does it can lead to other things, other opportunities
28:10
Speaker 1: or castera belly Rosa and and and and and and
28:17
Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and
28:23
Speaker 1: and and and and and and and ra and and
28:33
Speaker 1: ra and and and and ra and and and and
28:41
Speaker 1: um from from from from from from from of it
28:52
Speaker 1: and little ship, welcome back. And now on the line
28:58
Speaker 1: we have Alejandra Bablos. She is a nationally recognized immigrant,
29:02
Speaker 1: immigrant rights activists and reproductive rights activists based in Washington,
29:06
Speaker 1: d C. And she's here with us today to share
29:09
Speaker 1: her story and so all you, all of our listeners
29:12
Speaker 1: can get to know her. Welcome. Thank you so much
29:14
Speaker 1: for joining us. Can you introduce yourself to our listeners. Alejandra, Hey, y'all,
29:20
Speaker 1: my name is Alecandra. Hi everyone here at the Look Radio.
29:23
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm actually a fan. I never listened
29:26
Speaker 1: to you guys. That's really cool. Stop it. But um
29:31
Speaker 1: hand and I am currently in DC right now. I
29:33
Speaker 1: actually travel back and forth in Arizona, see Arizona being
29:36
Speaker 1: my home base. But I don't do a lot of
29:39
Speaker 1: work and I was an exactly I'm really excited to
29:41
Speaker 1: be here to share my story. Thank you so much
29:44
Speaker 1: for an inviting me. Yes, thank you, And I want
29:46
Speaker 1: to shout out that actually connected us with you. Her
29:49
Speaker 1: name is Jessica and she tweeted at us and said,
29:52
Speaker 1: like local Dora, I think that y'all should interview Alejandra,
29:55
Speaker 1: like she has an amazing story to tell. And that
29:58
Speaker 1: was and we were like, let's just like email us
30:01
Speaker 1: and connect us with her. We would absolutely love to
30:03
Speaker 1: have her on the show. So once again, thank you
30:05
Speaker 1: for being here with us. UM. And you know recently
30:08
Speaker 1: you UM were detained by ice in Arizona. Correct, Yes,
30:14
Speaker 1: that's correct. I was actually um detained by UM. I
30:20
Speaker 1: sat my check in. I actually check in. I've been
30:22
Speaker 1: on Ice Girl for about almost five years now. UM.
30:25
Speaker 1: I was detained an Elo detention center the first time
30:28
Speaker 1: went two thousand eleven for two years, so I've been home.
30:31
Speaker 1: I actually um was. I let out on bond after
30:34
Speaker 1: fighting two years in there and I lost my kids
30:37
Speaker 1: in there, but um I came home on a bond.
30:39
Speaker 1: So I've been on like Ice squirrel checkens ever since.
30:42
Speaker 1: So I have my court. I had my court in
30:44
Speaker 1: March six and on the seventh, I had to check
30:46
Speaker 1: in with ICE and that's where, Um, I knew I
30:49
Speaker 1: would be detained. That's correct. Wow, So I didn't realize
30:53
Speaker 1: that you had been detained in the past neither a
30:55
Speaker 1: long time. Neither did I. So yeah, So that's I
30:59
Speaker 1: think that's the part that that is really important for
31:01
Speaker 1: folks to understand that, you know, folks, criminal records really
31:05
Speaker 1: uh follows um every person, every person here in the
31:08
Speaker 1: United States, but especially immigrant folks and documented folks have
31:11
Speaker 1: it sort of like double jeopardy. We have to go through, right. Um,
31:15
Speaker 1: even when I was taking the tension those two years
31:18
Speaker 1: I was charged with you know, these certain incredible fiddle
31:21
Speaker 1: at this just last year, this administration used an o
31:25
Speaker 1: dui against me as well and just made it really
31:27
Speaker 1: from a little bit tougher for me to fight, right,
31:29
Speaker 1: So that rights actively all I'm going after it, right,
31:33
Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, And you know, I think one of
31:36
Speaker 1: the amazing things that I saw via social media obviously
31:39
Speaker 1: were in different parts of the US, And one of
31:42
Speaker 1: the amazing things I saw was the way the community
31:44
Speaker 1: mobilized for you and to for you to be free
31:48
Speaker 1: um vias Instagram and via Twitter. Um, can you tell
31:52
Speaker 1: us a little bit about that experience for you, having
31:55
Speaker 1: this community mobilized, this kind of like rapid response, how yeah, okay,
32:00
Speaker 1: you're right forever, that's for sure, and maybe in an
32:04
Speaker 1: organized activist Um, it's definitely a beautiful to see like
32:09
Speaker 1: the collectiveness, especially nationwide, and just how everybody responded and
32:13
Speaker 1: actually to get a win, right, like we actually brought
32:15
Speaker 1: me home. And I think that the pressure and that
32:17
Speaker 1: the narrative that we had out right, Um, I think
32:21
Speaker 1: it was contagious. And I think everybody is ready to
32:23
Speaker 1: be talking about certain demas that we haven't paid a
32:26
Speaker 1: lot of attention to write. But people were really because
32:29
Speaker 1: they knew me, right, They've known me, and they've known
32:32
Speaker 1: the work that I've been doing. Um, they know that
32:34
Speaker 1: I am a person who's had to come out a
32:36
Speaker 1: record who has made me stay with the down person.
32:38
Speaker 1: But also, um, all people are suing the right is
32:41
Speaker 1: to be able to also make mistakes and live and
32:43
Speaker 1: learn from them and move forward and pursue lives of
32:47
Speaker 1: like dignity and respects, you know, and that's not what
32:49
Speaker 1: being grantedulous, right, Black and brown bodies don't have the
32:51
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. You don't have the benefit of
32:53
Speaker 1: making mistakes either, um, and we are you literally targeted
32:58
Speaker 1: just for standing us for ourselves and for not be
33:00
Speaker 1: being scared. Right. And so I'm you know, out here
33:04
Speaker 1: like we're in l A, and out in l A,
33:07
Speaker 1: there are all kinds of fronts where like war is
33:10
Speaker 1: being waged on immigrants and undocumented communities, like the street
33:14
Speaker 1: vending issue is but one, right, Um, So not only
33:18
Speaker 1: out here like on the outside there are these attacks
33:21
Speaker 1: on undocumented communities, but also within detention there are abuses
33:26
Speaker 1: and oppressions that are taking place. And I'm wondering if
33:30
Speaker 1: maybe there are like some specific issues going on in
33:33
Speaker 1: detention centers that a lot of people maybe are not
33:36
Speaker 1: aware of or should know about. Yeah, I think, um,
33:40
Speaker 1: we're gonna endoctately more time to talk about all the
33:43
Speaker 1: conditions and stuff like that, but I can definitely highlight
33:46
Speaker 1: right now that, um, you know, there's there's so much
33:49
Speaker 1: neglect even coming from the Department of m Security until
33:52
Speaker 1: ICE themselves. If we're not talking about actually how women
33:54
Speaker 1: are being forced to be you know, being forced to
33:57
Speaker 1: leave the country being recorded, but also people that have
34:00
Speaker 1: already decided to take voluntary departure or already been supported
34:04
Speaker 1: in months and months. They're waiting for travel documents, wait
34:08
Speaker 1: for whatever has to happen as far as ICE is concerned, UM,
34:11
Speaker 1: but still holding the women that after they they're already
34:14
Speaker 1: been supported. So you have a lot of Ice and
34:16
Speaker 1: glad you have women making copies of these things. Women
34:19
Speaker 1: ready to literally sue ICE when they go back to
34:21
Speaker 1: their country or they guess you win here, right, So
34:24
Speaker 1: women are keeping track of all of those things. I
34:26
Speaker 1: shared UM a lot of time with the women that
34:28
Speaker 1: were legally helping other women and keeping copies because stuff
34:31
Speaker 1: and how women were organizing themselves to really fight back
34:33
Speaker 1: when they actually less dealer, right, because you can do
34:36
Speaker 1: nothing in there. There's no all the other legal support
34:39
Speaker 1: you have in there is really old, right. There's no
34:42
Speaker 1: interpretation or translators helping you UM in there at all,
34:45
Speaker 1: even when you go to orientation, when you talk to
34:46
Speaker 1: your deportation office, so there's nobody speaking your language. UM.
34:49
Speaker 1: The medical negligence, there's just literally no process for you
34:52
Speaker 1: to go and seek health and feeling sick or when
34:55
Speaker 1: you need something. Women get given, you know, they get
34:58
Speaker 1: they get UM. They're forced to wait up like around
35:00
Speaker 1: four thirty in the morning to go to dick call,
35:03
Speaker 1: which the call is only available between five and six,
35:06
Speaker 1: but you have to wake up around four fifteen and
35:08
Speaker 1: get on standby UM to go then like if your
35:11
Speaker 1: spirit at size pam whatever four pan, like, it doesn't matter,
35:15
Speaker 1: you don't you don't get to go see a doctor.
35:17
Speaker 1: You know, you have to wait. Like so that's why
35:19
Speaker 1: a lot of like suicides happen there too. This is
35:21
Speaker 1: a lot of pre medical and like they're really stretched thin,
35:24
Speaker 1: you know because most of the folks and they're developed,
35:27
Speaker 1: you know, diseases because of the of the like lack
35:30
Speaker 1: of nutritious food, the lack of nutricious food, right the
35:33
Speaker 1: two engine mattresses on metal um. You know, the stress
35:37
Speaker 1: about being in their right watches people commit suicide and
35:39
Speaker 1: not having any follow up also right for being witnesses
35:42
Speaker 1: to to traumatic incidents like that. UM. Just also just
35:46
Speaker 1: the plane UM. Lots of sensitivity, sensitivity to what a
35:50
Speaker 1: detention center, an immigration detensition center should look like with
35:54
Speaker 1: people coming in as rescuegee at speeking help women who've
35:58
Speaker 1: been survived as a domestic violence, any of folks who
36:00
Speaker 1: survive drug abuse. You know, those folks that really need
36:04
Speaker 1: are how they need to be treated with dignity and
36:06
Speaker 1: respect when they get treated like start the enemies that
36:08
Speaker 1: they get treated like very poorly. So it's really unfortunate.
36:12
Speaker 1: That is, you know, my English, my privilege, and they
36:15
Speaker 1: really got you know, it gave me a benefit to
36:18
Speaker 1: not be to in a certain way. But I had
36:19
Speaker 1: to speak up a lot, you know, and I can
36:21
Speaker 1: see how I don't know that language, Like, you're gonna
36:24
Speaker 1: get treated really badly by the staff then, And if
36:26
Speaker 1: I understand correctly, in immigration detention centers, technically, if you're
36:30
Speaker 1: detained there as you don't actually by law have the
36:34
Speaker 1: right to like a phone call or an attorney, correct,
36:38
Speaker 1: like if you can access those things, right, So you
36:42
Speaker 1: do get one call when you get there, right when
36:44
Speaker 1: they process you, they give you one call. Yeah, they
36:46
Speaker 1: give you like a three minute call, um. But once
36:49
Speaker 1: in there, it's all on your own. They don't even
36:51
Speaker 1: now they've managed to even get worse than when I
36:54
Speaker 1: was there five years ago. Now they don't even have
36:56
Speaker 1: a resource sheet where they used to have a bunch
36:58
Speaker 1: of lawyers listed. They don't even give you that. They
37:01
Speaker 1: don't even they only have one pro bono community organization
37:04
Speaker 1: in there. Um you don't, uh, you have to wait
37:08
Speaker 1: if you don't have people putting money on your phone,
37:11
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna be able to call you know,
37:13
Speaker 1: there's been on a legal number that you can use.
37:16
Speaker 1: But also the women, like I said, they come in
37:18
Speaker 1: speaking just in dialects. The women don't know what's going on.
37:20
Speaker 1: They just think they're gonna get you know, leave right away. Um.
37:23
Speaker 1: So it's just like not a lot of not a
37:25
Speaker 1: lot of resources there at all. Um, nobody holding the
37:28
Speaker 1: facility c p A accountable for these things, right they
37:31
Speaker 1: throw they point the finger at each other back and forth,
37:33
Speaker 1: I and B c A and blame it on the
37:35
Speaker 1: medical contract and so forth. Um. But there's just literally
37:39
Speaker 1: no accountability notions ferency. I never once saw the warden
37:43
Speaker 1: or any ice officials to so I can speak to
37:46
Speaker 1: them or maybe um you know, complain about something or
37:49
Speaker 1: avoid anything. And I wasn't able to access none of that.
37:52
Speaker 1: So it was really hard to hold them accountable and
37:55
Speaker 1: to really um talk about the inhumane ways that they
37:58
Speaker 1: were treating us, because it's just accounability. We heard jest
38:01
Speaker 1: quessions already say they would never um, you know, watch
38:04
Speaker 1: over what deparminent home mas Security is doing. They would
38:07
Speaker 1: never you know, started a report on them. So they're
38:09
Speaker 1: going grow and they're doing whatever they want. And they're
38:11
Speaker 1: literally literally keeping our bodies for profit and in a
38:14
Speaker 1: very kissing and and these also are facilities that detain
38:19
Speaker 1: children as well. Correct at this particular facility, um, you know,
38:25
Speaker 1: they don't detain minors, but they have before I find
38:28
Speaker 1: them just means in solitary they have a little small
38:31
Speaker 1: room where they keep them from the general population. Um.
38:34
Speaker 1: But basically as you know, that's that's being in the whole, right,
38:37
Speaker 1: but they have, Um, there's other detention centers specifically for miners.
38:40
Speaker 1: I know here in Arizona there is the Southwest KEEP
38:43
Speaker 1: program that is the program that gets funded by the
38:45
Speaker 1: Refugee Settlement Department and in the government, and they hold
38:50
Speaker 1: an accompanied miners that are going to coming here and
38:52
Speaker 1: finding them sponsors in the US. But at ELOI spacifically
38:55
Speaker 1: they should not be wholly miners that are supposed to happen,
38:58
Speaker 1: right right, It's a lot, just a lot, and I'm
39:02
Speaker 1: sure that it's just's just like the tip of the
39:04
Speaker 1: ice exactly. Yeah. And you know one thing, I mean, no,
39:08
Speaker 1: go ahead, I was just gonna say I need for me.
39:11
Speaker 1: It was just really it was just I couldn't I
39:14
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that I was there. I was just like,
39:15
Speaker 1: I what am I here for again? For being arrested
39:18
Speaker 1: out of protest um? You know, So this most repul
39:21
Speaker 1: time that you were the most recent time that you
39:23
Speaker 1: were detained and that you were just released, what were
39:26
Speaker 1: the circumstances of that of why they even took you back? Right?
39:31
Speaker 1: So this is the thing that happened that people set
39:33
Speaker 1: Also going back to your question that you're asking, basically,
39:35
Speaker 1: what are folks will need to know? It's also that,
39:37
Speaker 1: like I said, people are getting arrested and immediately taken
39:41
Speaker 1: to immigration when immigration no down. Well at the most
39:45
Speaker 1: quote that we got a court to go to, we
39:47
Speaker 1: haven't even been in Sabicont to court. You know, we
39:49
Speaker 1: haven't even been. You know. The thing about it is
39:52
Speaker 1: here is it's a it's a the country that just
39:55
Speaker 1: literally trust the police so much, and the police is
39:58
Speaker 1: so credible because the rhetoric of you know, of looking
40:01
Speaker 1: and eagles and ships that are like so it's like
40:04
Speaker 1: once you're arrested, you're just arrested and that's it. And
40:06
Speaker 1: we're going to take you in. But that's that's not
40:08
Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to be. I still have to
40:09
Speaker 1: go to court. So I got arrested and my check
40:13
Speaker 1: in because of this arrest, but I haven't even gone
40:16
Speaker 1: to before yet. So you're thinking I've putting in Virginia.
40:20
Speaker 1: That's why I can court in Virginia or trust continent
40:23
Speaker 1: obstruction with justice? Um and um, that's even a lot
40:29
Speaker 1: of mution my thought. But I'm going to court, and
40:32
Speaker 1: I'm if I get to be founds, you know, guilty,
40:35
Speaker 1: like actually guilty, like I'm afraid of being picked up
40:38
Speaker 1: by eyes right there. And then as well, because they
40:40
Speaker 1: are in Virginia, they already tried to result my bombs
40:42
Speaker 1: going before, you know, so if they being arrest, why
40:46
Speaker 1: wouldn't they do it off of an actual indictment? Right
40:49
Speaker 1: Although the Virginia Locks would say that that shouldn't happen,
40:52
Speaker 1: that's still something that organizes as people who have been targeted,
40:56
Speaker 1: like we ought to prepare for it, you know. And
40:58
Speaker 1: so the court is taking place in for Ginia because
41:01
Speaker 1: this is like a federal level hearing. Yeah, well the
41:05
Speaker 1: process the protest was in Virginia. Yeah, so I remember
41:11
Speaker 1: I say in DC, and I organized in Virginia. So
41:13
Speaker 1: we had some of my comrades and some of the
41:15
Speaker 1: organizations that I work with. Um, we're hosting a protest
41:20
Speaker 1: at this new like Condestine center that was protesting folks
41:24
Speaker 1: when this cause was really really nasty agent who is
41:27
Speaker 1: who'd in charge of really like the most recent um uh,
41:32
Speaker 1: you know, break break ins into the homes and terrected
41:35
Speaker 1: some of our folks, really actually hurting people and sending
41:37
Speaker 1: people to the hospital. So we were their protests and
41:40
Speaker 1: that's where we got arrested. That's where d HS was
41:42
Speaker 1: called the polife access to leave. They had no jurisdiction
41:45
Speaker 1: and we had you know, our people observer there and
41:47
Speaker 1: everything and the buns. It was about forty of us
41:49
Speaker 1: and you know, d HS had no jurisdiction to really
41:52
Speaker 1: tell us to leave, and we were waiting for Chesterfield
41:55
Speaker 1: Poliefs and UM. I never saw the beliefs, But all
41:58
Speaker 1: I remember is this sage as officer telling me I'm
42:01
Speaker 1: under arrest, and I was like in the middle of
42:04
Speaker 1: a chat and my hee was just like you're under arrest,
42:06
Speaker 1: and UM, I definitely panicked. UM he had putting me
42:10
Speaker 1: down on the floor and my nis were bloody girl, Ma,
42:12
Speaker 1: they were broken. You know he was you know, it
42:19
Speaker 1: was some aggressive act it, you know, to be broken.
42:23
Speaker 1: And so it was. Yeah, it was really intense. And
42:28
Speaker 1: I know that it was my sharp tongue that brought
42:30
Speaker 1: him got back out that particular officer to want to
42:32
Speaker 1: arrest me because he was hearing the truth coming out
42:35
Speaker 1: of that group, you know, like when I'm on the mic,
42:37
Speaker 1: I'm on the mic speaking some truth and and you know,
42:41
Speaker 1: I mean it was to the point where asking that
42:42
Speaker 1: he should quit his job because no one has. You
42:45
Speaker 1: don't have to to have these jobs that I have
42:47
Speaker 1: literally humanized people that Terra family is apart, like there
42:51
Speaker 1: are plenty of other jobs. Um. So I think I
42:54
Speaker 1: think it was very It was something that we weren't
42:56
Speaker 1: expecting at all. I mean, it was not about that
42:58
Speaker 1: where we had musio were about the Pabedians. No, Like
43:02
Speaker 1: I know exactly how delicate my life is and I
43:05
Speaker 1: know where I can do, but I'm also not going
43:06
Speaker 1: to be violent. I'm not going to be great up
43:09
Speaker 1: to my enemies that I recognize my enemies and um
43:12
Speaker 1: and I have to and I have a mouth else. Yes,
43:17
Speaker 1: I mean that is obviously something we advocate for here
43:20
Speaker 1: on the podcast and um for our listeners that are
43:23
Speaker 1: tuning in. Um, I wanna, I wanted us to discuss
43:26
Speaker 1: what are some ways that like us folks that our
43:29
Speaker 1: allies or accomplices to the too undocumented folks, what are
43:32
Speaker 1: some ways that we can support folks in the struggle
43:35
Speaker 1: or in the community that are doing the groundwork. Mhm yeah,
43:41
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a good question, Thank you.
43:43
Speaker 1: I think first, I mean first and foremost, I think
43:45
Speaker 1: all of us mettle in a commony that we need
43:47
Speaker 1: to start talking about what it means to be a
43:49
Speaker 1: person with a criminal record, um or with the percentages
43:53
Speaker 1: and the Latino families. But we know that one in breed,
43:56
Speaker 1: you know, um, black black man especially is going to
43:59
Speaker 1: be in contra at one point in the life. I
44:01
Speaker 1: know that Latinos in Arizona our skyrocketing when it comes
44:04
Speaker 1: to uh the percentage Joseph right of Latinas that are
44:08
Speaker 1: in it exactly. Um, So, like, what does it really
44:12
Speaker 1: need to have to be somebody of that's the product
44:14
Speaker 1: of the that state, right, that's the products of these laws,
44:16
Speaker 1: and and talk about what cuminalization really looks like you know,
44:19
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, talk about what peace really looks like. Right,
44:23
Speaker 1: But also at the same time, we all got to
44:25
Speaker 1: get together with some organization that's doing some sort of
44:28
Speaker 1: immigrant um some immigrants you know defense words. Um it's
44:33
Speaker 1: super crucial as you guys seen as you guys spoke
44:35
Speaker 1: about the community organizing. That's the money that I said
44:38
Speaker 1: to to work with lawyers, you know, like lawyers are
44:41
Speaker 1: not gonna lawyers are not going to free as best believe.
44:44
Speaker 1: It was my people, it was me Campis, it was
44:47
Speaker 1: every other people who like signed the letter and wrote
44:50
Speaker 1: some some dough back words on my behalf. Um, that's
44:53
Speaker 1: what it got me out. That's that's the kind of
44:55
Speaker 1: a collaboration that we need because um, it's super important
44:58
Speaker 1: for us to be atencils like cannot in our backs.
45:01
Speaker 1: Every place, every day probably has a detention center. Um,
45:04
Speaker 1: if they don't have one, that's probably going to be
45:06
Speaker 1: it's going to be built one there. But when nowages
45:09
Speaker 1: knows zero zero tolerance policy that jet Sessions just you
45:13
Speaker 1: don't just thought about it doesn't doesn't need more jails
45:16
Speaker 1: because um, he's criminalizing even just the entry right. So
45:20
Speaker 1: it's really really um it's gonna be really important for
45:23
Speaker 1: all of us to work with us new organizations that
45:25
Speaker 1: are doing defense, butoks that are donating to bail prevail
45:28
Speaker 1: money funds that are donating to image to both defend
45:32
Speaker 1: um money, pay palers or whatever it is, right, So
45:35
Speaker 1: I think it's super important. And then also the folks
45:37
Speaker 1: that works with white folks and I do this work like,
45:41
Speaker 1: I don't care about your doing a rapid response. I
45:43
Speaker 1: don't care like you're doing a life I've watching all that. Like,
45:46
Speaker 1: if you're not going to put your body on the
45:47
Speaker 1: line that goes to anybody else who who is a
45:50
Speaker 1: citizen and can do that, you got to put your
45:52
Speaker 1: body on the line to literally keep us free. So
45:54
Speaker 1: it's if we're doing the work that we're doing by
45:57
Speaker 1: you know, going where we're going and by fighting to
45:59
Speaker 1: work fighting once they're literally touching my body or anybody
46:04
Speaker 1: else they're trying to you know, literally take someone's um
46:07
Speaker 1: into custody, like we need to protect that that. But
46:09
Speaker 1: that's literally what we do is we're fighting up and
46:11
Speaker 1: we're abolished us right, and we're fighting and detentions um.
46:15
Speaker 1: All of those enemies are the same. And if somebody
46:17
Speaker 1: will take you somebody away. We need to need to
46:20
Speaker 1: be ready to literally defend people and to simply and
46:23
Speaker 1: with this, with this to a level that we have
46:25
Speaker 1: on this before, right, So putting bodies on the line,
46:29
Speaker 1: utilizing your privilege, verage, leveraging your privileges, which are really protections. Right.
46:33
Speaker 1: So that's I think that when we talk about like
46:35
Speaker 1: being documented, that's a protection. I am not at risk
46:39
Speaker 1: of being put in an immigration detention center or being deported,
46:42
Speaker 1: Like that's just not gonna happen to me. I'll be
46:45
Speaker 1: could be put in a jail, in a county jail,
46:47
Speaker 1: a city jail, what have you. But I'm not at
46:49
Speaker 1: risk of deportation. Um. And I feel like I heard
46:53
Speaker 1: from I attended a statewide conference, the Statewide Domestic Violence Conference,
46:58
Speaker 1: and Beam how Settle was there talking about um translating yeah,
47:05
Speaker 1: shout out bamby. Bammy was doing a workshop and talking
47:07
Speaker 1: about specifically conditions for undocumented trans Latinas right being put
47:12
Speaker 1: in immigration detention centers with men. And one of the
47:15
Speaker 1: recommendations that Bammy put forward was, you know, we need
47:18
Speaker 1: to put money on people's accounts and phones who are
47:23
Speaker 1: in detention, right so that they can make phone calls
47:26
Speaker 1: at the very least and seek out resources. Is there
47:29
Speaker 1: a specific way that like people can do that or
47:32
Speaker 1: how how do we like contribute to something like that.
47:37
Speaker 1: That's the thing, Like that's two fun life super important
47:39
Speaker 1: to be talk about his profitings from detention centers. These
47:42
Speaker 1: private detention centers, you can't really get into sublic information
47:45
Speaker 1: and they're about a community organization working within the detention center.
47:49
Speaker 1: It's really hard for me to get inside and able
47:52
Speaker 1: to do something like that, right, so that even detention center,
47:55
Speaker 1: for example, shout out, you got somebody fort who has
47:57
Speaker 1: a collective of community. You're gonna say sens that get
48:00
Speaker 1: together and go in there and visit women. They're visiting
48:04
Speaker 1: about sixty people, but which is like out of fifteen hundred, right,
48:08
Speaker 1: which is not enough. But they get to go in
48:09
Speaker 1: there and they help that small percentage out right, So
48:12
Speaker 1: fun through all of these other things and they commney
48:15
Speaker 1: on their books and they do all these things. But
48:17
Speaker 1: it's not it's not something we've demanded for our government
48:20
Speaker 1: to to require from privatizing or corporations that run these jails. Right,
48:25
Speaker 1: Like we literally don't know who's in there, We don't
48:27
Speaker 1: know who has a bond. It's really hard for prognos
48:29
Speaker 1: a bonding hard to pay for it, right, and but
48:31
Speaker 1: little that we know it's okay. Inside there's a really
48:35
Speaker 1: organizations doing a little bit of astation work, right, but
48:38
Speaker 1: they're still very limited. There is no any ory there's
48:41
Speaker 1: not an official organization that's coming in there to doing
48:43
Speaker 1: doing any type of support group or circle talk or
48:46
Speaker 1: talk circles or anything like that. Right. Um, it's just
48:49
Speaker 1: the thetat about reports are kind of coming into the
48:52
Speaker 1: listation process and visiting one on one, like seeing our
48:54
Speaker 1: twenty minutes busny person and that helps. So that's a
48:58
Speaker 1: good place then for people to keep the minds because
49:02
Speaker 1: what I'm what I'm hearing is there's no like if
49:04
Speaker 1: somebody is locked up in a county or city jail,
49:08
Speaker 1: there's public information and you have access to that and
49:10
Speaker 1: you can get in touch with a person. What I'm
49:12
Speaker 1: hearing is that in detention centers there's no public information,
49:15
Speaker 1: no public access. You have to get in through a
49:18
Speaker 1: pre approved organization that already has like an in there. Right.
49:22
Speaker 1: You gotta get a background check, you gotta know if
49:24
Speaker 1: you want to find out, you gotta find out. You
49:26
Speaker 1: gotta look you gotta have people's A numbers. For example,
49:29
Speaker 1: you know, we're plugged in with the with the number
49:31
Speaker 1: when we're there, and that's the A number you gotta have.
49:33
Speaker 1: I can't my mom can't even visit me if you
49:34
Speaker 1: don't have that A number. I see. So, um, it's right.
49:38
Speaker 1: And that's like the thing right that we're not being
49:40
Speaker 1: able to participate in there either. Where I'm right now,
49:42
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure that we have a community
49:44
Speaker 1: stakeholder tour. You know that I'm getting some domestic vialent
49:48
Speaker 1: coaches approved to come in there and visit with some
49:50
Speaker 1: of the women that I've met that are survivors of
49:52
Speaker 1: domestic vivan Um. Just trying to see what what the
49:55
Speaker 1: what you know, the lack of the gaps that are
49:57
Speaker 1: into and how I can help build them up. But
50:00
Speaker 1: it's time that we hold these private you know, these
50:03
Speaker 1: like these contracts from ICE and these private corporations. Now
50:07
Speaker 1: they're trying to call themselves cours civics. PJ wants to
50:09
Speaker 1: call themselves coursive. It's just so they can expand on
50:12
Speaker 1: the work that they do. But by time too, you know,
50:15
Speaker 1: also be seen as people who who handle rehab and
50:18
Speaker 1: you handle info monitors and like all of these things.
50:21
Speaker 1: Because they want to see more than corporations, want more
50:24
Speaker 1: than prisons. They expanding their businesses as they right. Yeah,
50:31
Speaker 1: I mean everybody literally is companying off of that, right
50:34
Speaker 1: for at private company that does a lot of transporting
50:37
Speaker 1: of of of prisons and jails, and you know, picked
50:40
Speaker 1: me up and pricip a little nine year old girl,
50:43
Speaker 1: nine year old girls at this you know, um at
50:45
Speaker 1: that stop with the program and to some where they
50:47
Speaker 1: hold their little kids, picked them up and took us
50:49
Speaker 1: to the jail. You know, who's making money of all
50:52
Speaker 1: the phone calls, all the money My mom put a
50:54
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty dollars and learned, I never thought that
50:56
Speaker 1: money he's keeping that who's feeling from us? So it's
50:59
Speaker 1: a lot of money. You know, it's a lot of
51:01
Speaker 1: people making money. But from the commentary, people from like
51:04
Speaker 1: you know, the hygiene, like it's just really really awful.
51:06
Speaker 1: And the people we need to need to start, you know,
51:09
Speaker 1: divestment campaigns that are publicing like specifically on immigration centers. Yeah, well, Alejandra,
51:16
Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing all of this information
51:18
Speaker 1: with us. And I know that and I'm sure that
51:21
Speaker 1: like talking about it is not fun for you either,
51:23
Speaker 1: Like I know that the situation has been an ongoing trauma,
51:27
Speaker 1: so on some level, you know, like thank you for
51:30
Speaker 1: bearing with us and going through it again to to
51:33
Speaker 1: to educate, because what I'm basically understanding is there's some
51:37
Speaker 1: things that you're never going to know about unless, like
51:39
Speaker 1: you talk to somebody who's been in there and who's
51:41
Speaker 1: been through it, right, yeah, unfortunately. Um, So I think
51:46
Speaker 1: right now we're coming towards the end of our conversation
51:50
Speaker 1: and I just want to ask Alejandra, you know, if
51:51
Speaker 1: you can basically put out there and plug UM where
51:55
Speaker 1: people can keep in touch with you, follow the projects
51:58
Speaker 1: you're working on, and support um, you know, based off
52:01
Speaker 1: of this episode where they can follow you online. Astutely,
52:06
Speaker 1: thank you so much again for letting me be here
52:09
Speaker 1: and speaking with you guys. I actually love talking about
52:12
Speaker 1: how we're gonna suck eyes and single made at this
52:14
Speaker 1: whole time. So UM, it's just really resussion to talk
52:18
Speaker 1: to other homebowks who wanted to make sure that this
52:20
Speaker 1: gets you know, these stories get out and stuff. So
52:22
Speaker 1: I think for people to to keep in um, keep
52:25
Speaker 1: track of what's going to be happening with my kids personally.
52:27
Speaker 1: And just like gut said, you know the co buck
52:30
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52:33
Speaker 1: Canda in Canda dot net. You there with the j UM.
52:37
Speaker 1: They're the ones that were helping especially on my on
52:39
Speaker 1: my on my case. I'm a member of the campaign.
52:42
Speaker 1: I'm remember of a lot of different organizations that are
52:44
Speaker 1: really fighting and enforcement and and UM mass incorporation also
52:49
Speaker 1: follow you know the Natural Latina Institute, Certy Productive Health
52:52
Speaker 1: guys who I work with UM. And my personal instagram
52:55
Speaker 1: is so Allen so it's s O R underscore a
52:59
Speaker 1: l EV So I will always be UM. I thine
53:02
Speaker 1: people updated there. But I think right now, like I said,
53:04
Speaker 1: everybody go back home and started talking about people that
53:07
Speaker 1: are locked up. By giving your money to the organizations
53:10
Speaker 1: that are bailing women out, that are literally feeling our
53:13
Speaker 1: women and our brothers and sisters out of there. We
53:15
Speaker 1: can't break down these walls. We gotta take the women
53:18
Speaker 1: out of there. They can't make they can't make money
53:20
Speaker 1: off of you if we take them out of there.
53:22
Speaker 1: So it's been important to to do what you can
53:25
Speaker 1: be a capacity, but be aware that but those are
53:28
Speaker 1: the things that people want to talk about. Now, we
53:30
Speaker 1: want to talk about that. All of us want to
53:31
Speaker 1: get free. Yes, thank you so much, thank you for
53:35
Speaker 1: being here, and they think and closing, Yes, stay on
53:39
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53:41
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53:45
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53:48
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