Latest / The Catholic Current / A Second Look at Pope Leo’s First Encyclical (Fr. Robert McTeigue, S.J.) 6/12/26
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- 0:00This is The Catholic Current with Fr. Robert McTague.
- 0:05We've gotten to the point, which is kind of absurd, it's like a Marx Brothers movie,
- 0:10where you say synodality is the central characteristic of the church, synodality is experienced at
- 0:15synods.
- 0:16The next synod is canceled, because it's not sufficient to express synodality.
- 0:21We invent a new thing called ecclesial assemblies.
- 0:23Wait a minute, are we in a Lego land where we get to tear the castle down and then build
- 0:29a firehouse and say it's a castle?
- 0:31I mean, this is crazy.
- 0:34Praised be Jesus Christ, this is Fr. Robert McTague of The Society of Jesus, your daily
- 0:38host for The Catholic Current, where we bring Christ to the world and the world to Christ.
- 0:42You're listening to us from the station of La Crosse Studios, your local radio station
- 0:45and the iCatholic Radio mobile app, where we proclaim the fullness of truth with clarity
- 0:50and charity.
- 0:51As always, let's start with prayer.
- 0:54Name of the Father, Son of the Holy Spirit, Almighty God, through the intercession of
- 0:58St. Ignatius of Loyola, we ask that you pour forth your Holy Spirit upon us, a spirit of
- 1:02discernment that might hear your voice and obey your command.
- 1:05In the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit, Amen.
- 1:08Here we are, Friday in The Catholic Current, and you know what that means.
- 1:11Let's talk about this.
- 1:12We're walking through a complex issue together.
- 1:14I'm taking a second look at Pope Leo's first encyclical, Magnifica Humanitas, which
- 1:21is ostensibly, putatively, supposedly about artificial intelligence.
- 1:28It's kind of a recapitulation, a summation, a rehashing of the church's social doctrine.
- 1:37And it also seems to be a grab bag, a potpourri, a piñata of just lots of different topics.
- 1:47And there are very many ways of approaching this, and we can go through it line by line,
- 1:52which means we'd be here for days, and I would not impose upon Engineer James that
- 1:56way because I hear that he has a life on some days, so we're not going to keep him here
- 2:00for the next 38 hours.
- 2:02I want to approach this as a professor, as someone who has written and evaluating writing
- 2:09for most of his adult life.
- 2:10I want to do this as a philosopher and a theologian, as a priest and religious, and as a broadcaster.
- 2:17And so bottom line up front, the question is, is Magnifica Humanitas, is this really
- 2:24the encyclical that we needed?
- 2:28And my humble opinion, the short answer is no.
- 2:33Now it's true, you can find true and good things in this encyclical.
- 2:39It's also true that there are some real head scratchers, and there's a whole lot of, well,
- 2:45if you stand on one foot and tilt your head and close one eye and turn to north by northwest,
- 2:51then you can see that looking beyond the words, what the Pope really meant was, we can do
- 2:57that, and we have a lot of experience of doing that in recent years, at least since the resignation
- 3:03of Pope Benedict.
- 3:06I want to begin to do something different.
- 3:08I want to make some initial comments about what the avoidable limitations of this encyclical
- 3:16were, and then offer an outline, a sketch, a proposal of the encyclical that we did need.
- 3:29Or better said, if we were going to have an upgrade, if this is just the beta test version
- 3:36and we're going to have Magnifico Humanitas 2.0, I want to propose some indispensable
- 3:44ingredients, and there's a bunch that I just want swept into the dustbin of history.
- 3:53There is a sub-stack that was brought to my attention by a young friend recently, and
- 3:59it's called The Literate Woman, that's the name of the sub-stack, we're going to link
- 4:03to it in the show notes.
- 4:06And a couple things that she had pointed out, someone had done a study on the average number
- 4:11of words per encyclical in each pontificate, using the English text, from Leo XIII to Pope
- 4:19Francis, and starting with Leo XIII, who wrote a lot of encyclicals, I think it was 84, 88,
- 4:28his average encyclical was under 3,700 words.
- 4:34We jump ahead to Francis, and the average is almost 34,000 words.
- 4:45And then the most recent encyclical is 42,000 words.
- 4:48I will say this much, my master's thesis in systematic theology was only 15,000 words.
- 4:56So there it is.
- 4:57And why does this happen?
- 5:01Why does this happen?
- 5:02Well, both Fulton Sheen and Mark Twain, accomplished communicators, the two of them, make various
- 5:10jokes that if I had more time I would have written a shorter piece.
- 5:15It takes a lot more preparation to speak succinctly, to speak with discipline.
- 5:23I mean, anyone can just show up and just kind of wing it, and just kind of ramble.
- 5:30That takes no discipline, it doesn't take a lot of preparation, it doesn't take a lot
- 5:34of skill, and honestly, it doesn't do people much good.
- 5:41Now when I was teaching rhetoric, and then when I was teaching homiletics, I'd ask the
- 5:47seminarians, do you go to the pulpit because you have something to say, or because you
- 5:52have to say something?
- 5:53Now, as someone who spent a lot of years sitting in the pews, I noticed that very often it
- 6:00seemed that father or deacon would go to the pulpit just because that was what was on the
- 6:07menu.
- 6:08That's just what you did.
- 6:11They really didn't have anything to say, they just kind of started, and they continued,
- 6:17and they stopped.
- 6:19And I mention that because I once was at a university cocktail party, and a university
- 6:23president said to his colleagues, Father McTague's sermons are really distinctive, they have
- 6:28a beginning, a middle, and an end.
- 6:30And I said, you know what, that doesn't happen by accident.
- 6:33And in my book on preaching, here is my formula for preaching.
- 6:39Good preaching is like mortal sin.
- 6:42Both require grave matter, sufficient reflection, and full consent of the will.
- 6:48Neither happens by accident.
- 6:51Let me add to that something that I would tell my students, which a professor told me
- 6:55when I was a junior in college.
- 6:57He said if you can think it, you can say it, and if you can say it, you can write it.
- 7:02And the real acid test for whether or not you understand something is whether or not
- 7:09you can write it clearly.
- 7:13Now I would tell my students, you want to avoid what I would call the raisin bran approach
- 7:19to writing an essay.
- 7:20Do you remember the TV commercial for raisin bran cereal, where the distinctive feature
- 7:25was the raisins rather than the bran?
- 7:26He said, we put two big scoops of raisins into every box.
- 7:30Well, okay.
- 7:31Well, if you just take two big scoops of philosophy words and dump them on the page, you haven't
- 7:37written a philosophy essay.
- 7:40And if you take six big scoops of theological words and dump them on the page, you haven't
- 7:45written an encyclical.
- 7:48I also know, too, that beginning speakers focus on what do I want to say, what do I
- 7:57want to say, what do I want to say.
- 7:59And that's the work of an amateur, that's the work of a beginner.
- 8:03You always start instead with who is my audience, what can they hear, what can they understand,
- 8:10what can they remember?
- 8:12And if you're really good, you'll ask, what do they need?
- 8:16And in that small space, then you ask yourself, what do I want to say?
- 8:23Now this was, I don't object to popes and cardinals and bishops having ghostwriters.
- 8:29I understand that a Roman document may have had the help of committees.
- 8:34But someone needs to be the editor-in-chief and begin to reconcile these things and realize
- 8:41that some of what was added to this document was undisciplined, it was gratuitous.
- 8:49I mean, did we really need to have another apologia for slavery?
- 8:54Which reminds me, I want to let Mr. Engineer know in the break that I have a book that
- 8:59I want to add as a resource that gives the real history of the church and slavery.
- 9:06And the church actually did a better job than what this document would suggest.
- 9:11You know, do we really need to quote Gandalf?
- 9:14Do we really need to make hagiographical references to Martin Luther King Jr. and Nelson Mandela
- 9:22and Benazir Bhutto?
- 9:25You know, and then references to the climate and et cetera, et cetera.
- 9:29And you know, women treated as minorities.
- 9:33This was self-indulgent.
- 9:35This was self-indulgent and it was undisciplined.
- 9:39And candidly, people are busy, people are distracted, people are stressed.
- 9:48So one of the ways that you win an audience over in person, on video, via audio, and in
- 9:55writing is you respect the limitations on their time and their attention.
- 10:02So you give a message that is taught, that is T-A-U-T, that is taught, that is clear,
- 10:12that is rigorous, that is memorable, and that is actionable.
- 10:17And having read through this document, I hope there's a plenary indulgence available
- 10:25for that, but having read through this document, the only action that seems to be called for
- 10:32that I can really notice is dialogue.
- 10:35Apparently, we just need to talk more and more and more and more.
- 10:44And oh, and maybe some encountering and some accompaniment as well.
- 10:48Does this sound flippant?
- 10:50Yeah, it sure does, but I think this is an indication of my exasperation.
- 10:55I think we needed something different from what we've got.
- 10:57We'll talk about that more in the next segment.
- 10:59I'm Jesuit Father Robert McTague, your host here every day of The Catholic Current.
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- 13:25On this Friday, we're taking a second look at the first encyclical by Pope Leo XIV called
- 13:33Magnifica Humanitas, which is supposedly about artificial intelligence.
- 13:40It's about a lot of things, honestly.
- 13:42I think it's about too many things, and I made a reference to a substack called The
- 13:47Literate Woman, which I have enjoyed reading and is worth a look, and she says this.
- 13:53She says, gosh, this is a document that was obviously written by a boomer.
- 13:59Pope Leo is 70, so he qualifies as a boomer.
- 14:02I'm almost 65, so I'm at the very tail end of the boomer generation.
- 14:10And she says that people of that age group see technology and artificial intelligence
- 14:19and social media as morally neutral tools that can be used for good or for ill.
- 14:26But if you talk to people from Gen Z and Gen Alpha, they'll say, oh my gosh, no, this has
- 14:35been a nightmare for us.
- 14:37We grew up with this.
- 14:39We don't remember a time without it.
- 14:43We're defined by it.
- 14:46I've had a number of Zoomers, Gen Z folks, in their early to mid-20s, say, Father, I
- 14:54wish that I wake up one morning and everyone's iPhone didn't work and we could just get back
- 15:01to having normal lives the way that we used to.
- 15:06So this woman had urged, or had wished, that Pope Leo had taken kind of a sterner approach
- 15:15to artificial intelligence and technology.
- 15:18Now I say this, and I'm sitting in a small room surrounded by miles of cable and microphones
- 15:25and lights and cameras and so on.
- 15:28So I certainly use technology.
- 15:30That's a very Jesuit thing to do.
- 15:31I mean, we've been there since the printing press and beyond, early adapters of radio
- 15:37and the like.
- 15:38I do believe these can be morally neutral tools.
- 15:41I also believe that our capacity for technological innovation very often, all too often, outpaces
- 15:52our capacity for and commitment to moral reflection and moral examination.
- 16:00Now I had mentioned last Friday that the encyclical mentions the Tower of Babel, and I had some
- 16:07issue with how the Tower of Babel image was used.
- 16:13I'll say this much.
- 16:14I've been reading and thinking and talking with people, and there's kind of a consensus
- 16:19view that I found.
- 16:20The first was that the Tower of Babel was built by people who wanted cohesion.
- 16:28They wanted integration.
- 16:29They wanted a singularity of purpose, but they wanted that without any reference to
- 16:37the mandate of God.
- 16:40So rather than answering the call of God written in our bodies and our souls and natural law,
- 16:50rather than answering the call of the Decalogue and the deposit of faith, which Christ entrusted
- 16:57to the church he founded and which was meant for the whole world, we want to have the human
- 17:03projects succeed without reference to God.
- 17:08And the new Tower of Babel, according to the people that I've spoken with, is being built
- 17:13by people who say they want peace, but they want peace through dialogue.
- 17:21They want peace by means of self-generated goodwill, and they want peace without any
- 17:29reference to the kingship of Christ.
- 17:32Now often this document links peace and justice, which is true.
- 17:37That's biblical.
- 17:38Paul VI said if you want peace, work for justice.
- 17:42Peace is not only the absence of people shooting at each other.
- 17:46St. Augustine said peace is the tranquility of order, and right order is the opposite
- 17:54of chaos.
- 17:55Now let me help you with this.
- 17:58Right order comes only from the Logos, the eternal word of the Father, the second person
- 18:08of the Holy Trinity, Christ the King.
- 18:12So all this talk about peace and justice and the civilization of love, it doesn't happen
- 18:20by dialogue alone.
- 18:23It can't because we're finite and we're sinners and we're tainted by original sin.
- 18:32And we end up dashing ourselves against the cornerstone that we have rejected if we don't
- 18:41deliberately and consciously and vocally choose to build on Christ the Rock.
- 18:48And there's lots of talk about human dignity, which I would certainly agree with, but there's
- 18:57no, I couldn't find very much linking human dignity with baptism because baptism restores
- 19:10what was lost through original sin.
- 19:17We're not the beings God intended us to be, and the principal way of beginning to correct
- 19:23that is through baptism.
- 19:25There's lots of talk about fraternity.
- 19:30Okay, fine, and we're all going to get along, but apparently the way we get along is through,
- 19:39wait for it, dialogue, and somewhere in the background is the United Nations as everybody's
- 19:47best friend.
- 19:48I'm going to pitch a crazy idea here that human fraternity is best served by membership
- 19:56within the church Christ founded.
- 20:00There we are.
- 20:02That's the basis of fraternity.
- 20:05And there's lots of talk about global order in all of this, because for sure the world
- 20:15is a chaotic and crazy place, and people do stupid and foolish things, large and small,
- 20:21but you really can't have nations and right relationship with each other without conversion
- 20:31to Christ, without conversion to Christ.
- 20:36And part of what concerns me, and I've been talking about this for decades, the modern
- 20:44mindset can't acknowledge intractable evil.
- 20:52The modern mindset can't deal with stubborn, willful, unreasonable, irrational, committed,
- 21:04purposeful evil.
- 21:07Because the universal solution to everything, according to this document, and according
- 21:13to many documents and conversations I've encountered over the years, is if we just
- 21:18dialogue and dialogue and dialogue, then by human reason alone and human effort alone,
- 21:28we will come to a meeting of minds and hearts, and it turns out that what we were looking
- 21:33for was within us and between us all along, as if we were living in a Disney movie and
- 21:41not in a fallen world.
- 21:44And what I believe firmly, and I believe it so much that I pledged service to Christ the
- 21:51King within the Society of Jesus, and asked the church to ordain me a deacon and then
- 21:56a priest, I believe the only solution, the only solution, the only solution to intractable
- 22:04evil is Christ crucified, the shedding of his precious blood, Ave Crux Spes Unica, Hail
- 22:16to the Cross, our only hope.
- 22:21And what I haven't seen clearly in this encyclical is comparable to what I haven't seen clearly
- 22:31in all the statements and documents and study group pronouncements from the synods on synodality
- 22:37and all things synodal, is the preaching of Christ crucified, turning to Christ crucified
- 22:46and risen and reigning with a spirit of contrition and with a desire for worship.
- 22:57If it's there, you gotta help me, because I don't see it.
- 23:01You can write me at thestationofthecross.com slash askfather if you think I'm wrong about
- 23:06this.
- 23:08I also think that, and we'll talk about this more in the next segment, that the place of
- 23:17man on the world stage is, it's not quite right.
- 23:25It's not quite right.
- 23:27It seems, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that in this document, whoever is responsible
- 23:35for writing it, and I think it was Kemetes, see man as the star of the show.
- 23:44And I find that hard to square with Christian tradition.
- 23:51The initiator, the primary agent, is the provident creating wise and good God.
- 24:03And man is meant to be responsive to God Almighty, answering the call of the Father.
- 24:15And because we abused our freedom and betrayed our Creator, we're in an insoluble dilemma
- 24:23unless there is divine intervention in the form of the Word made flesh.
- 24:30Son of God becomes Son of Mary, becomes Savior.
- 24:34And those fundamentals decide absolutely everything, but ultimately each man, all men,
- 24:48and especially the church, are meant to draw attention to Christ.
- 24:58And we're not meant to draw attention to ourselves.
- 25:04We are not the main character in this story.
- 25:09Yes, we have agency, yes, we have purpose, yes, we have dignity, but none of that makes
- 25:16sense if we're not constantly, deliberately, consciously, and gladly pointing to Christ.
- 25:27In the next segment, I'll talk a little bit more about how we might be able to do better.
- 25:31I'm Jeshua Father Robert McTague, your host here every day of the Catholic Current.
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- 27:25We're talking about a second look at Pope Leo's first encyclical regarding humanity
- 27:31and artificial intelligence and lots and lots of other things.
- 27:34I want to draw your attention to paragraph 237.
- 27:40Read just a few sentences.
- 27:42Let us remain faithful to the truth.
- 27:45Living amid incessant flows of information, opinions, and images, we know how easy it
- 27:50can be to influence decisions and preferences through increasingly sophisticated algorithms.
- 27:56That's certainly true, and as a philosopher and a theologian, I'm very keen on remaining
- 28:00faithful to the truth.
- 28:02The document goes on, in this context, it is imperative to cultivate hearts that love
- 28:08the truth, prefer what is right despite the most appealing content, and pursue wisdom
- 28:15rather than immediate results.
- 28:16Yes, I do not argue with any of that.
- 28:20It goes on to say, we must always keep before us the truth about God and humanity just as
- 28:26Christ has revealed them to us.
- 28:28Yes, I can sign my name to all of that.
- 28:31Here's my problem with it.
- 28:34I'm not convinced that the people who wrote that actually believe it.
- 28:41Now why do I say that?
- 28:44I have a hunch, I don't know for sure, but I'm willing to believe that the committee,
- 28:51the group that wrote those sentences from paragraph 237 are also enthusiasts about synodality
- 29:02and the synod on synodality and the pronouncements of document number nine and would applaud
- 29:12and nod knowingly and agreeably whenever someone, including Pope Leo, says no one has a monopoly
- 29:20on the truth and theology can't be formulas and we have to be a listening church now and
- 29:32even be willing to revise what the church has always taught because of the testimony
- 29:39of the lived experience of whomever the synodalist happened to be listening to at any given moment
- 29:48and then call that the work of the Spirit.
- 29:51So on the one hand, we're told that it is imperative to cultivate hearts that love the
- 29:57truth, prefer what is right, and we must always keep before us the truth about God and humanity
- 30:03just as Christ has revealed them to us and at the same time, there is nothing, if the
- 30:14synodalists are to be believed as I understand them, there is nothing in Catholic dogma that
- 30:22is not subject to negotiation.
- 30:28There's nothing that can't be dialogued or synodaled away.
- 30:33There's nothing that can't be rewritten in light of lived experience.
- 30:39Let me tell you a story.
- 30:42When I was a young Jesuit, before I was ordained, I was at a meeting of other young Jesuits
- 30:46getting ready for ordination and there was a Jesuit there who had been ordained a year
- 30:51and he had said that one of the things he learned as a new priest was that he had to
- 30:58apologize so often for being a man and a cleric and he did that willingly and with humility
- 31:06and gladness and et cetera, et cetera.
- 31:09So I said, well, who's asking you to do this?
- 31:15And he said, well, you know, it's mostly women and well, why are they doing that?
- 31:19Well, the other question I had was, well, what kind of women are you hanging out with?
- 31:24Well, because, you know, their lived experience and their pain and they're not able to be
- 31:29ordained yet, clericalism, et cetera, et cetera.
- 31:34And I said, now suppose I told you, contrary to fact, that I was raised by my older sister.
- 31:40So I don't have an older sister, so this is purely hypothetical.
- 31:43But supposing I told you that I was raised by my older sister who beat me every day without
- 31:53mercy until I ran away from home at the age of 16.
- 31:58And then as a result of my lived experience, I have an animosity towards women.
- 32:05What would you say to me?
- 32:06Well, I'd want you to grow and I'd want you to move, put your experience behind and move
- 32:12beyond.
- 32:13And I said, well, wait a minute.
- 32:15Why is it that my lived experience is negotiable, but you hand over dogma and doctrine to a
- 32:25group of unhappy women who invoke lived experience?
- 32:29Why does their lived experience give them the crown jewels of the church and my lived
- 32:37experience tells me I have to grow up and change and get over it?
- 32:42I got a blank stare.
- 32:45And for a number of years, I wanted to hand out t-shirts that said, no more blank stares
- 32:49or maybe just wear that t-shirt myself.
- 32:51So the synodalists who are the absolute devotees of dialogue, and my goodness, the number of
- 33:01times dialogue is mentioned in this document is beyond counting.
- 33:07I'd use AI to count it, but that might be ironic.
- 33:12Why is it that the champions of dialogue who want to listen to everyone, including those
- 33:19who don't acknowledge Christ, why are they also making this appeal to truth?
- 33:26And why are they making this appeal to, we must keep before us the truth about God and
- 33:32humanity just as Christ revealed them to us?
- 33:36I said, oh my gosh, if only, if only, let's do that, but I don't think we are.
- 33:51So I think that there are contradictions in this document.
- 33:56There are some things that were not well thought out.
- 33:59I really wonder who was in charge.
- 34:03I understand sometimes documents are written by committees and so on, but there has to
- 34:07be an editor-in-chief that harmonizes things.
- 34:13But what we have here is this grab bag of, oh, yeah, we got to talk about social doctrine,
- 34:20okay, and we got to talk about AI, okay, and we got to talk about war, and we got to talk
- 34:24about slavery, and we got to talk about wisdom, and not really do much justice to any of them.
- 34:33So, all right, Father, what do you recommend?
- 34:36Well, I think that we do need a document about artificial intelligence.
- 34:43And you know what?
- 34:44I'm a humanities major.
- 34:45I've, you know, maybe 43 years ago, I wrote a few lines of code in BASIC on an AT&T desktop
- 34:53that had a two megabyte hard drive.
- 34:55So what I say about computer science has to be obviously very, very modest.
- 35:00And I accept that.
- 35:01I accept that I own that.
- 35:03And I do believe that artificial intelligence is a tool.
- 35:07It's an unusually powerful tool.
- 35:11And it's a potentially seductive tool.
- 35:16And it's an unreliable tool.
- 35:18You know, back when we were on the air during the papal conclave, and I said, hey, let's
- 35:26see what AI has to say about some papal trivia that I can mention while I'm waiting for the
- 35:31election of the pope, and I had asked the question, you know, how many popes came from
- 35:37which countries?
- 35:38And, of course, the vast majority of popes come from Italy.
- 35:44Country number two is France.
- 35:48And then you get to the bottom and it says, and four popes from Latin America.
- 35:52Well, that's simply not true, and we all know that.
- 35:56But if I were some high school kid who was lazy and didn't know any better, I'd just
- 36:00say, but there were four popes from Latin America.
- 36:02So, all right, we need to acknowledge all those things.
- 36:06But I think what's prior to that is whatever man sets his hand to, he's likely to misuse
- 36:16it because he's fallen.
- 36:21And his fallenness, if not remedied, will lead to misery in this life and horror in
- 36:31the next.
- 36:33And the only remedy, the only remedy, the only remedy to misery in this life and horror
- 36:42in the next is the kingship of Christ crucified in his shed blood.
- 36:49That's it.
- 36:51And any good thing we want to say about human aspiration and dignity and plans and work
- 36:59and fraternity and justice and peace and puppies, et cetera, it all goes downhill.
- 37:07It all goes sideways.
- 37:10It falls short of what it could and should be unless and until we're all, all, all converted
- 37:22to Christ.
- 37:25And we've always known this, in terms of the deposit of faith, we've always known this.
- 37:33And whether the technology is a printing press or a steam engine or a nuclear reactor
- 37:41or a modem or a fountain pen or a supercomputer, given enough time, a fallen man will do dangerous
- 37:53and stupid and destructive things that are unworthy of his human dignity and worthy of
- 37:58the dignity of his neighbor and offend God Almighty.
- 38:02I would like to see us live in a manner unlike that, where we use our tools to imitate and
- 38:14share in the creative work of God and express our gratitude for our intelligence and our
- 38:21cerebral cortex and our opposable thumb by working together with good tools.
- 38:29I would like to see all of that happen.
- 38:32And every now and again, there have been flashes of that, you know, even in pagan culture.
- 38:38You know, there's a lot of Roman roads that still work.
- 38:42There's a lot of Greek philosophy that's still great.
- 38:46And yet, there's more to it than that.
- 38:49There can be and there should be so much more to that.
- 38:53Because what human life is meant to do, and that includes what we do with our tools, is
- 39:00make a glad return to the Lord for all that he has done for us.
- 39:07And you know, you've heard me say this before on the air, and I've mentioned it many times
- 39:11from the pulpit, it is a matter of fundamental justice to offer the Creator and God thanks
- 39:18and praise simply for creating us.
- 39:22And it is necessary for us to worship the living God who saved us from ourselves.
- 39:29And the best we can say on our best day to God Almighty is, imperfectly, I offer you
- 39:36my imperfect love.
- 39:38And as individuals and communities and nations and tool makers, we can say to God Almighty,
- 39:44imperfectly, I offer you my imperfect gratitude.
- 39:49And God, who must always be honest, will say, rightly, thank you very much, that's not good
- 39:55enough.
- 39:57All that you do, and all that you offer, must be united to the person and sacrifice
- 40:05of Christ crucified, and his victory and his resurrection.
- 40:10And unless and until we are adamant about that, then our documents are a waste of time.
- 40:23I'll say that.
- 40:26I'm Jesuit Father Robert McTague, your host every day, The Catholic Current, and you want
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- 42:24Here we are, the last segment of our Friday.
- 42:26You know what that means?
- 42:27Weekend readiness, you and me reviewing the headlines of the week in light of the upcoming
- 42:30Sunday Scriptures, so we all prayed up for Sunday Mass.
- 42:33You're listening to this on June 12th, however, I am recording this on not June 12th.
- 42:40We had some scheduled juggling to do, so there may be something very dramatic that happened
- 42:47on June 11th or June 12th that I'm not speaking of, only because it hasn't happened yet.
- 42:52So I'm going to make some more generic observations.
- 42:54As I record this, the city of Los Angeles is still counting ballots for its mayoral
- 43:02election.
- 43:03The Republican candidate who had a lead now looks like he's going to get knocked out
- 43:08of the running.
- 43:09Isn't that interesting?
- 43:12The nation of India, which is a really big place and has 660 million people, which is
- 43:18the largest democracy in the world, they're able to count their ballots for the whole
- 43:24country in one day, and California can't seem to manage it in a matter of weeks.
- 43:33Not to mention they're absolutely committed to, you don't need ID, you don't need to have
- 43:37signatures, you don't have to be a partisan to say that there's a lot of shenanigans going
- 43:45on in California voting, and I think it's one of the reasons why people are moving out.
- 43:51Pope Leo is in Madrid for World Youth Day, which is, I think, a confabulation that needs
- 43:57to be discontinued, and I was disheartened to see, given my age, that there was a Spanish
- 44:04production of at least highlights of the Broadway musical Godspell being performed
- 44:10for the Holy Father.
- 44:12Godspell, for those of you who weren't treated to that, my goodness, it is the zenith, the
- 44:23apogee, the that-then-which-there-is-no-witcher of 1970s Christianity, with our Lord as basically
- 44:34a clown, and my goodness does it appeal to adolescent enthusiasms, and I say this as
- 44:40I beat my breast, because when I was in high school in the 70s, I saw Godspell on Broadway
- 44:48three times.
- 44:51And so the thought of this being revived, it's just pretty appalling, disappointing.
- 44:58Maybe appalling is too strong a word.
- 45:02And Israelis and Hezbollah are shooting at each other, Israelis and Houthis are shooting
- 45:08at each other, Israelis and Iranians are shooting at each other, Russians and Ukrainians are
- 45:12shooting at each other, and on and on it goes.
- 45:17And what does the scriptures have to say about that?
- 45:21Well, if you're following the Novus Ordo calendar of the Pauline Rite, we're in the 11th Sunday
- 45:28of Ordinary Time, yes, Easter and Pentecost are behind us, and we're now in the time of
- 45:34the high poetry of Ordinary Time.
- 45:38We're looking at Lectionary 91.
- 45:43And I want to focus on the Gospel, in particular Matthew chapter 9, starting verse 36, it begins
- 45:55with this,
- 45:56At the sight of the crowds, Jesus' heart was moved with pity for them, because they were
- 46:01troubled and abandoned, like sheep without a shepherd.
- 46:07So our Lord really does have compassion for us.
- 46:12He does suffer with us.
- 46:16And I think, let me rephrase that, could we say that even now the sheep look up and are not fed?
- 46:28Our Lord says to His disciples,
- 46:30The harvest is abundant, but the laborers are few.
- 46:34So ask the master of the harvest to send out laborers for his harvest.
- 46:40This weekend, I attended the final profession of Religious Sister, and the very good bishop
- 46:45gave a very good homily at the Mass.
- 46:48He said when he was a new bishop, he was told,
- 46:50Well, the age of religious life is over, it's the age of the laity now, because reasons,
- 46:55blah, blah, blah.
- 46:56And afterwards, the bishop and I were seated next to each other at the reception, I said,
- 47:01Bishop, my perception is that all those years ago when people were gushing about it's the
- 47:06age of the laity now, that was primarily said by religious who weren't able to get
- 47:10vocations anymore, and he agreed with me.
- 47:14So every member of the body of Christ has a work to do.
- 47:20Every single one.
- 47:23And I think it is in the nature of the church to have consecrated souls.
- 47:28Certainly, it is Christ's plan that the church is hierarchical.
- 47:35From the Greek word it is hiros arke, which means holy order.
- 47:41And it is the role of the clergy to teach, to sanctify, and to govern.
- 47:47And it can't be Christ's church without that.
- 47:51Now, to live faithfully as a married person, to live faithfully as a consecrated religious,
- 47:59to live faithfully as a member of the clergy, indeed to live faithfully as a disciple in
- 48:05any form, requires conversion, and it requires generosity, and it requires grace.
- 48:14It demands sacrifice.
- 48:18And so everyone's contribution is needed in different ways because we're members of the
- 48:25body and we're differentiated.
- 48:28And he calls the twelve apostles, gives them authority over unclean spirits, and he calls
- 48:36them by name.
- 48:40And I think this is something that's really important.
- 48:43I think it would be tragic if we had a view that discipleship is something kind of generic,
- 48:52and it's something that we choose for ourselves.
- 48:57And I think the disciples who persevere and who are fruitful are those who know that they
- 49:06are called by name, that God has given them a purpose, has given them a mission, and he
- 49:13calls them by name because he loves them.
- 49:18And someday I'll have to talk more about how to recognize that you have been called by name.
- 49:26And he says, without cost you have received, without cost you are to give.
- 49:32Here's the moral of the story for us.
- 49:35Christ wants to continue his work in the world, and one of the ways he does that is through
- 49:43the individual work of the members of his church, and that includes you and me, regardless
- 49:52of our state in life.
- 49:54So with all this talk about human dignity, I can't think of anything more dignified than
- 50:01sharing in the work of Christ, to die and rise with him for the life of the world that
- 50:10gives us a good reason to live and a good reason to die, and these are things that the
- 50:14world cannot imitate, cannot match, and cannot take away.
- 50:21My friends, there is nothing greater than to be a disciple of Christ.
- 50:26May God's holy name be praised now and forever.
- 50:29I'm Jesuit Father Robert McTague, your host here every day of The Catholic Current.
- 50:33Join us on Monday for another episode of The Catholic Current.
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- 51:10Son, and Holy Spirit.
- 51:11Go in peace and please do pray for me, for I am a sinner.
- 51:21Amen.