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INTERVIEW: Trick Williams On Bringing Realness To WWE, Proposing To Lash Legend, Ideal Opponents + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day Up Week picks.
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  Speaker 2: Up The Breakfast Club finished for y'all. Done warning, everybody
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  Speaker 2: is j n V.
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  Speaker 3: Just hilarious. Chelamaine the guy.
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  Speaker 4: We are the Breakfast Club law the Roses here as well.
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  Speaker 4: We got a special guest in the building from the
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  Speaker 4: w W E Trick Williams.
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  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Let's talk about what's going on, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I do a good man, blessed.
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina game cock wide receiver.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, from university, Sir.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know about the Hampton thing. That's true.
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  Speaker 2: It is, it is, Wow, it is. I went to
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  Speaker 2: Hampton my first two years. Okay, back to the crib.
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  Speaker 1: Interested so you know him?
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  Speaker 2: You know he went to absolutely yeah, of course you
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  Speaker 2: already know. Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 5: It's not fast Baltimore.
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  Speaker 2: Uh No, Man, I never been, but I did. I
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  Speaker 2: got some seafood, yeah, I got.
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  Speaker 3: So how do you get in the wrestler?
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  Speaker 6: Man?
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  Speaker 4: How did this this wrestling thing come about? Because you
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  Speaker 4: started with football, So how did you get into wrestling?
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 5: Man?
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  Speaker 2: It was an accident.
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  Speaker 8: So, like you said, I started hamp Universe City, transferred
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  Speaker 8: to South Carolina that had a brief stint with the
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  Speaker 8: Philadelphia Eagles where I went to camp and then long
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  Speaker 8: story short, I got cut from the Philadelphia Eagles and
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  Speaker 8: trying to figure out what was next for my life.
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  Speaker 8: I had an agent who actually got me trying to
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  Speaker 8: give me some more trials and everything. Then got me
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  Speaker 8: hooked up with the XFL. I think it was just
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  Speaker 8: a blessing because I never played for the XFL. As
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  Speaker 8: soon as they set my information there, WWE reached out
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  Speaker 8: to me said, are you interested in coming in for
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  Speaker 8: a tryout?
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  Speaker 2: Oh so they reached out to you.
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  Speaker 3: So did you have wrestling background or did you ever
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  Speaker 3: do anything with wrestling?
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  Speaker 8: Never wrestled in my life. I was a fan, you know,
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  Speaker 8: at three years old, I opened a can of whoop
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  Speaker 8: ass watching the Stone Colch Steve Austin. Like I was
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  Speaker 8: always a fan. I watched it, but I never thought
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  Speaker 8: about actually wrestling, Like just didn't know. It's the opportunities.
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  Speaker 4: So then you had to learn how to wrestle r
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  Speaker 4: because it's not just one of those things you could
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  Speaker 4: just go slap somebody just opened up a cann of
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  Speaker 4: whoop passle when they reached out to you, was it
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  Speaker 4: a training process? It was a program, what breakdown, what happened?
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  Speaker 4: What got you into your first bout?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly? They Brohnatorlando.
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  Speaker 8: I tried out and they said, Yo, you got charisma,
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  Speaker 8: you got a good look and everything, but.
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  Speaker 3: Try out if you never wrestled before.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a good question. DJ.
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  Speaker 8: Let me tell you so for twenty years I played football,
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  Speaker 8: where if you're good at football, you stay on your feet,
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  Speaker 8: very physical sport, a very physical sport. My first day
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  Speaker 8: of becoming a WWE superstar, you learn how to fall, bump, cartwell,
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  Speaker 8: flip all this other stuff. So it wasn't natural to me.
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  Speaker 8: Like I wasn't a gymnast. I'm still not gymnasts. So
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  Speaker 8: they didn't sign me. So I had to move to Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 8: Back to Philadelphia, stayed with my uncle and I trained.
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  Speaker 8: I wrestled COVID broke out. I stayed on the independent scene.
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  Speaker 8: You know, you can think about something similar to comedy
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  Speaker 8: or something like that. You know, before you make it
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  Speaker 8: big and you know you got your own shows and
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  Speaker 8: you're on wild'n Out and stuff like that, you know
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  Speaker 8: you're on the indies and you make a name for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: So I had to do that first.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, do you feel pressure to represent like black culture
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  Speaker 6: and wrestling, or do you just show up and be
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  Speaker 6: yourself and let let's let everything play out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I can't. I can't be anything else. Damn black,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I can't change my skin,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 8: I'm raised how it was raised, and I feel like
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  Speaker 8: the better I do in this field, the better it
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  Speaker 8: is for you know, people who look like me, period.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, this is who I am. I can't
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  Speaker 2: change it.
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  Speaker 4: How difficult it was it to learn wrestling and the
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  Speaker 4: falling and the whatever wrestling is.
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  Speaker 3: How difficult was that?
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  Speaker 2: It takes years?
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  Speaker 8: It takes years because you know, playing football is about
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  Speaker 8: getting the job done, catching the touchdown, making the tackle,
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  Speaker 8: et cetera. Wrestling's everything, you know. I mean, we grab microphones,
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  Speaker 8: we tall trash. You know, we got to look good.
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  Speaker 2: We got to know our camera angles, We got to
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  Speaker 2: feed to the cameras. We gotta do this, We gotta
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  Speaker 2: do that. You got to be the ultimate showman to
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  Speaker 2: be good at the craft.
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  Speaker 9: And a lot of people think that it's fake, you know,
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  Speaker 9: obviously whatever, but like it's it's real, like y'all really
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  Speaker 9: getting hurt.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean my neck hurt right now. But
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  Speaker 8: you know the way I got pictures like this. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: yes there's a script attached to it. You know it's predetermined.
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  Speaker 8: But you know, y'all got scripts right now in front
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  Speaker 8: of your computer screen. If football, you know, but we do,
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  Speaker 8: you know, we prepare.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 8: If it's football, you got you know, a playbook, Basketball,
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  Speaker 8: you got plays. The beauty is not in the script,
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  Speaker 8: it's in the execution. And Trick Williams is the best executor.
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  Speaker 6: So that's why you said, I always wonder what's the
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  Speaker 6: psychology behind getting ten thousand people to chance your name
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  Speaker 6: because it might be a little scripted, but the crowd
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  Speaker 6: reaction got to be real, right right.
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  Speaker 8: Right, And that's the beauty of it. Because some people
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  Speaker 8: do their job so well, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 8: There's something about him, the way he walks out and
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  Speaker 8: he just got that swab, or or something about her,
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  Speaker 8: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: They like the way she looks. It could be her smile,
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  Speaker 2: it could be the way you know, the wind blow
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  Speaker 2: that day, like you never know what it is. Some
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  Speaker 2: people are just that good.
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  Speaker 7: At the craft and they whoop that trick when you're
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  Speaker 7: coming out and like they having a party when you
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  Speaker 7: walk out.
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  Speaker 1: It's a movement. Yeah, the whole movement with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it was.
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  Speaker 8: It was a blessing, you know what I mean. I
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  Speaker 8: started NXT where the crowd just adopted that. You know,
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  Speaker 8: my name being Trick Williams, my birth name being Matric
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  Speaker 8: you know, Trick was a nickname, so it just it fit.
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  Speaker 8: And whooped that trick fit with Trick and it took.
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  Speaker 2: Off that too. Yeah, trick she does, she does? When
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  Speaker 2: did you talk to what she does too?
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  Speaker 3: When did you know it was gonna work?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 3: When was that time? He was like, oh, they really
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  Speaker 3: catching on? Do you remember that match?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, I would say when. So at NXT,
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  Speaker 8: we're in front of a set audience in Orlando and
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  Speaker 8: we barely leave the house, like four hundred five hundred
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  Speaker 8: fans and they started chaing whoop that trick there, which
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  Speaker 8: is cool.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, but we're in the same crowd, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean.
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  Speaker 8: You don't really know how the world feels about you.
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  Speaker 8: Then we went all the way to California and in
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  Speaker 8: front of five thousand and the whooped that trick. Chance
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  Speaker 8: was crazy, and I won my first title. I'd be
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  Speaker 8: dominating my stereo Raymond Stereo Son And that's when we
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  Speaker 8: knew like, okay, this movement is something crazy and it
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  Speaker 8: has a slow down.
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  Speaker 4: Since does w W call you at that time? But like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: look we gotta talk, we gotta get some things. But
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  Speaker 4: they call you when when they start hearing it, Nah.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, That's not how Sean Michaels operate.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 8: Shoot, when you start succeeding, now you're in the high seat,
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  Speaker 8: you know what I mean, It's like once you get
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  Speaker 8: your first album, you know, and it hit you know,
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  Speaker 8: now the pressure is on because now you got to
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  Speaker 8: follow up. You got to be able to you know
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  Speaker 8: what I mean, You got to meet that pressure of
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  Speaker 8: everything that comes with that. So once the people get
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  Speaker 8: behind you, that's when hard work really start.
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  Speaker 2: You in the hot seat.
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  Speaker 9: How different is how different is the wrestler matric? I
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  Speaker 9: mean you're metric from the wrestler trick Williams.
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  Speaker 8: It depends who you ask. Like people from high school,
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  Speaker 8: they be like, oh, that's who he is, Like he
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  Speaker 8: always been like that. But I just turn it up
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  Speaker 8: when the red lights on. You know what I mean,
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  Speaker 8: I talk mold trash. I mean, you don't walk around
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  Speaker 8: life just pimp slapping people and talking trash.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It has to be a
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  Speaker 2: reason for it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 8: But like you got to be able to feel the
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  Speaker 8: true emotions on the inside somewhere to you know, make
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  Speaker 8: it feel real when it's.
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  Speaker 2: When it camera.
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  Speaker 1: Ke Okay high school. You really grew up right there, right.
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  Speaker 2: There in my family from the same Matthews you love country.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you and your fiance last legend, both of you
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  Speaker 7: guys made it to the main roster. And that's what
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  Speaker 7: you're talking about. How like that was like a cheat
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  Speaker 7: cod because y'all get in the travel of the world
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  Speaker 7: and do all these things. So what's that been Like?
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  Speaker 2: It's been amazing. Man. You know, she with me all
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  Speaker 2: the time.
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  Speaker 8: I say all the time all the time, so you know,
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  Speaker 8: and you know it just it helps you feel a
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  Speaker 8: little bit more supported, you know, when you're in these
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  Speaker 8: foreign rooms, when you're dealing with people who are different
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  Speaker 8: than yourself. You know what I'm saying, Like, I know,
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  Speaker 8: my lady out with me, you know, regardless of how
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  Speaker 8: I go, regardless you know I debut on SmackDown, I'm
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  Speaker 8: good my lady, you know, she here, so we make
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  Speaker 8: sure that we're confident and were prepared to go put
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  Speaker 8: on the best show.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody running into your house, that's the worst.
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  Speaker 8: And look man, and people say, like, oh, they be nervous.
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  Speaker 8: They want to make sure that they partner does well
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  Speaker 8: when they perform and everything. My fiance, she's six foot
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  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, one, not five two hundred
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  Speaker 8: like basketball, you know, MVP, you know, see Out of
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  Speaker 8: Storm all that. So I don't be nervous for her.
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  Speaker 8: I be nervous for everybody she in the ring with,
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  Speaker 8: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: She liked to fight. J don't want that. Look. I
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  Speaker 2: respect Jade and you know she from you know, she
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  Speaker 2: cool people, But there's only one lash.
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  Speaker 5: Is it challenging working with you? Do you find any
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  Speaker 5: challenges with it? I know y'all are supportive verts of
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  Speaker 5: each other, but you know you're still together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I would take these challenges over the other challenges I gotcha. Yeah,
• 8:17
  Speaker 8: of not seeing each other because we never home, so
• 8:20
  Speaker 8: like if if she was at the crib but it
• 8:23
  Speaker 8: was doing something else, then it would be difficult.
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  Speaker 3: How did y'all meet in the business.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of wrestlers date wrestlers. You know, that's
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  Speaker 8: just how it is, like you date where you're at
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  Speaker 8: you know, you know that's a long another story. I
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  Speaker 8: know we got time for that, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 8: So all right, let's talk about it, okay. You know,
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  Speaker 8: so you know we at the PC, that's what we
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  Speaker 8: call where we trained, the Performance Center. And you know
• 8:47
  Speaker 8: it's just people from college, people from different backgrounds, people
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  Speaker 8: from you know, what we call the indies. Like I
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  Speaker 8: said before, football players, basketball players, all this sort. I'll
• 8:56
  Speaker 8: say ninety percent of people come in in a relationship.
• 9:00
  Speaker 8: Two months in, I'll say there's about five percent of
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  Speaker 8: them still in that relationship, because that's just how the.
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  Speaker 2: Business is like.
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  Speaker 8: Once you in it, it's like a whole other world.
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  Speaker 8: And if you're not in it, a lot of people
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  Speaker 8: just don't understand, like what do you mean you got
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  Speaker 8: to stay and trained with you know, women who barely
• 9:16
  Speaker 8: dress and everything, or why you know, guys don't never
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  Speaker 8: got this shirt on. It's a lot for people, you know,
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  Speaker 8: who are not in it. Long story short. You know,
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  Speaker 8: I was, I was in a little relationship, but you
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  Speaker 8: know me and last it was cool.
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  Speaker 2: It was friends, and you know that didn't work.
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  Speaker 5: Out.
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  Speaker 8: So I saw lash, you know, and people thought we
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  Speaker 8: was talking different stuff like that. But now we were
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  Speaker 8: just cool. It's just friends. I try to you know,
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  Speaker 8: press some game on it, cut a promo nothing. I
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  Speaker 8: was stumbling. I was stuttering all over the flax. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: and I'm a promo guy like I like to talk. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: and you know I went to talk to out.
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  Speaker 2: You and me together.
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  Speaker 7: She wasn't with it at first though.
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  Speaker 2: Right now she friends on me, quit.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: The friend zone.
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  Speaker 2: I mean she was like, now you're my homie free
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  Speaker 2: and daped me up.
• 10:08
  Speaker 5: How did you feel that moment?
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: But I felt, you know what I'm saying, it was
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  Speaker 2: a friend zone like because you know she.
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  Speaker 8: Here's the truth about the matter. You know, she wasn't either,
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  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So she did what she
• 10:24
  Speaker 8: had to do.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, we never crossed that line then and that,
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  Speaker 2: but like we just grew as friends and then one day.
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  Speaker 1: Man, you know it is so how did you get
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  Speaker 1: out the friend zone?
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  Speaker 2: Man? Just being me, I had the baby steps once
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: you get the big toe in the rest of you know,
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  Speaker 2: he was.
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  Speaker 7: How does that help you? Guys? Brands? Just because I
• 10:46
  Speaker 7: know you have your singler brands, but together because now
• 10:48
  Speaker 7: they're calling you like one of the w W e's
• 10:50
  Speaker 7: like power couples straight up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was never the goal, Like it
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: wasn't trying to be a power couple per se. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I just rock with her.
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  Speaker 8: But it definitely helps, you know what I mean, Like
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  Speaker 8: you have double the reason to be invested into both
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  Speaker 8: of us now because like if you're a Trick.
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  Speaker 2: Wins fan, you rot with last, she ro last you
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  Speaker 2: brought with Trick and you know it just works like that.
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  Speaker 1: Do Y'll hit each other with wrestling moves around the
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  Speaker 1: house just randomly like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, she abusive. Damn she abusive? Man, Like I
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  Speaker 2: need help.
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  Speaker 5: You wish you stayed a friend.
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  Speaker 2: Uh you know the funny The funny thing is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like she like the strongest girl in thereb no ca
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Joke she no joke.
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  Speaker 8: But in the house she's just so oh help me,
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  Speaker 8: you know what I mean? Oh no, we got a
• 11:38
  Speaker 8: lizard in the house. We stay in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I hate lizard. Like, but
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: you did body slam with three hundred, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 7: But that means you put her in a really safe space. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: because she's very successful. And I watched you guys on
• 11:51
  Speaker 7: the Sports Bible to agree to disagree. I watched that
• 11:53
  Speaker 7: and I was I loved how you guys interact because
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  Speaker 7: I can tell for her to be so successful, you're
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  Speaker 7: so successful as well. Normally there's this like thing when
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  Speaker 7: you're a successful woman where you have to always like
• 12:03
  Speaker 7: you're on guard and you're always protecting what you built.
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  Speaker 7: She just be fully like, my man's here when when
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  Speaker 7: you're you know what I mean. That's a great thing
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  Speaker 7: to see.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 8: And I had to put my foot down. Sometimes you
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  Speaker 8: got to body slamming and let her know, you know
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  Speaker 8: what I mean safely.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know if this is I think you can
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  Speaker 3: beat you though I in front.
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  Speaker 2: Man, A lot of people think that.
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  Speaker 5: Go up the coat and got on another coat.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you somethingout in New York, like she
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  Speaker 2: say you, Normally I don't got no shirt on. But
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: today I was prepared.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: There last night you're.
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  Speaker 1: From Soccerlina in Florida. This wasn't you get used to it?
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  Speaker 2: Nah? Man, No, no, I don't play that now.
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  Speaker 6: In wrestling, you got to balance ego in storytelling, Right,
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  Speaker 6: how do you stay confident without letting the character of
• 12:50
  Speaker 6: Trick Williams consumed?
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  Speaker 8: Really, I mean, honestly, I think just man, people around
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  Speaker 8: me keeping me grounded. Like my mama, She'll let me
• 13:00
  Speaker 8: know if I'm tripping, you know what I mean, Like,
• 13:02
  Speaker 8: you know, before I cut a promo and I'm finished
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  Speaker 8: say something on live TV, I always think about my mama.
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  Speaker 8: I know she's watching. Shout to my mom. She had
• 13:09
  Speaker 8: surgery last night. But yeah, but the people around me
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  Speaker 8: just keep me grounded, man, like they always you know
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  Speaker 8: what I mean. You know, once I take off the shades,
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  Speaker 8: the coat, the limon, pepper stepas. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 8: Once I take all that off, you know, last at
• 13:26
  Speaker 8: the crib, like take out the trash, you know what
• 13:28
  Speaker 8: I mean, Like, oh yeah, we take out the trash,
• 13:31
  Speaker 8: you know, just keeping it real.
• 13:35
  Speaker 6: Historically, right, I feel like wrestling hasn't always portrayed black
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: wrestlers with a lot of depth, right, Like do you
• 13:42
  Speaker 6: feel like this era is finally allowing black talent to
• 13:45
  Speaker 6: show personality behind the stairs, beyond the stereotypes, right.
• 13:49
  Speaker 8: I mean, first and first, I gotta say shout out
• 13:51
  Speaker 8: to Nick Cohn Triple Hs because man, they've allowed me
• 13:53
  Speaker 8: to be myself. Like all these promos I'm cutting, you know,
• 13:58
  Speaker 8: all these different things. It comes from my head and
• 14:00
  Speaker 8: they say, man, go be you, you know what I mean,
• 14:03
  Speaker 8: Go get yourself over like let's see, let's see who
• 14:05
  Speaker 8: you are, Let's see how it works. And it's been working,
• 14:08
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean. It's not just me. Like
• 14:10
  Speaker 8: three of us moved up from NXT together, Javon Evans, oh,
• 14:12
  Speaker 8: Befe me, all brothers and everybody's eating right now. And
• 14:16
  Speaker 8: that's probably you can't say any other time in the
• 14:19
  Speaker 8: history of WWE that a young black man is, you know,
• 14:22
  Speaker 8: coming to the business and got pushed like this. So
• 14:26
  Speaker 8: that's no shade to anybody who came before us, because
• 14:28
  Speaker 8: I'm grateful for you know, the Shelton Benjamin's, the Booker T's,
• 14:31
  Speaker 8: et cetera. But you know, they laid down the footwork
• 14:33
  Speaker 8: for us to get this opportunity.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Now, wrestling is entertainment, but it's also a business as well.
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: When did you realize the business and say, you know what,
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: I have to make myself a brand so I could
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: be seen and I could be heard.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: When did that come about?
• 14:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean very early, because like I wasn't always
• 14:48
  Speaker 8: like you know, people's favorite, you know, people's pick. Like
• 14:52
  Speaker 8: I started off, I was like a hype man. I
• 14:54
  Speaker 8: would talk trash on somebody else's behalf, and I wanted matches.
• 14:57
  Speaker 8: I wanted the spotlight. I wanted that stuff. I was like, dang, man, like,
• 15:01
  Speaker 8: I need to make myself popping so I can get
• 15:03
  Speaker 8: on the show myself, you know what I mean. And
• 15:06
  Speaker 8: so I started doing my own ventures on social media,
• 15:09
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean, making little skits, you know,
• 15:11
  Speaker 8: making rap songs, I make dis tracks, you know what
• 15:13
  Speaker 8: I mean, on my opponents, doing whatever it tastes like,
• 15:17
  Speaker 8: Like I gotta get myself popping, and so I'm building
• 15:19
  Speaker 8: my own brand now.
• 15:20
  Speaker 7: At the same time, I was reading about a possible
• 15:23
  Speaker 7: face turn that they're saying might happen with you and
• 15:26
  Speaker 7: explain to people because I had to teach myself last night.
• 15:28
  Speaker 7: It's where the villain goes to the good guy.
• 15:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, storyline, that's right, Like in storytelling period, there's a
• 15:34
  Speaker 8: good guy bad guy, you know, one on one for storytelling,
• 15:37
  Speaker 8: he gets more complex. But you know the same thing
• 15:39
  Speaker 8: that we're doing wrestling, and right now I'm supposed to
• 15:42
  Speaker 8: be what we call it hell a bad guy. But
• 15:45
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean, I'm one of those heels
• 15:46
  Speaker 8: that people tend to like, you know what I mean.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Everybody loves to heal.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Stone Cold was a hell turn into a you know ball.
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: Okay, person who don't really watch y'all. I always know
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: there's a good guy, bad guy, but I didn't know
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: that the terms of it.
• 16:02
  Speaker 8: The rock was a hill Hollywood rock, you know, and
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: see me personally, I like being the bad guy because
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: when you're the bad guy, you got more freedom to
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: be yourself, you know, when you live in this little
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: box when you're a good guy, like.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Hey, how you doing kids? Hey, let me sign this
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: for you? You know what I mean?
• 16:17
  Speaker 8: That's not real life. I feel more like a politician,
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean, as a good guy, as
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: a hell.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: I ain't worried about.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Pleasetograph, ain't.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I still might sign, but you know what
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: So it's actually that is going. That's the thing, because
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: it's reported, but I haven't seen it.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Oh man, don't believe nothing you see on y'all know
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: online is online.
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: It was reported that the face turn is happening, that
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: you're going to go from the bad guy to the
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: good guy.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Man, Man, don't believe Twitter. Now, Twitter, they say what
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: they want to say.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: So you're still the bad guy right now.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I'm always the bad guy, okay.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: And that's why you're saying, don't believe it.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Don't believe it.
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: I mean, but it doesn't matter because at this point
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: I just got to stay trick Williams, you know what
• 16:55
  Speaker 8: I mean. That's what's working. Good guy, bad guy. I
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: got taught my trash. I gotta look good that, I
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: gotta wear a coat underneath my coat, none of that.
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: I ain't gonna have no shirt on. Let's talk about it.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, I'm thinking about it. I don't think there's
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: a good guy ever really liked.
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: I always liked the bad guy, even like you know
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like I like when Hoklgan became Hollywood Halla.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: To me, he's like a heel too, I guess, I
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: mean he did he turned to a good guy heroist.
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: Like yeah, Seena was a good guy pretty much a
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: majority of his career until like this last little running
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: he turned back.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: I like Sting when he was jumping out the raptors,
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: you know, dressed in all black guy but he would,
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: but we didn't know for so long what he was
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: when he went to the crow Era.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: I to me personally, I don't think it even mattered.
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: Good guy bad guy. People like what they like, right period,
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean. That's how I look at it,
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: Like good guy bad I don't really care, Like I
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: just wanted to be good and entertaining.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: That's all I care.
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: When I looked at it, I was like, Okay, this
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: just means they know that the star is rising, so
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: they're trying to make sure that they like put around
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: you whatever you need, because I mean, you're already huge
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: in it, but they see it getting bigger because everyone
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: likes you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: You're likable.
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, I mean it is a compliment. So yeah,
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: I say, I just wanted to be good. I don't
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: really care.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: You said you used to make distracts. You do music,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: You're into music.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I do music, you know what I mean?
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: Like, I ain't gonna say like, oh, I'm hard down
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: trying to be a rapper, but you know I'm musically talented.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that you're doing your free.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Time something I do in my free time.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Do you make your own. You still make the musical
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: when you were a hype man.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I still make music. I still got some
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: projects I'm waiting to leak out, but you know, waiting
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: for the right time.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And is that heavy jealousy in wrestling? Because I look
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: at it like there's but so many.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Wrestlers that can make it to that spotlight, right, so
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: it got to be wrestless hating on each other, got
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: to be heavy jealousy.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: It's not like football, with.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Is a bunch of teams, bunch of positions, like wrestling
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: is very small, right, Do you deal with a lot
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: of jealousy and how to handle it all the time?
• 18:51
  Speaker 8: I think I think that's in every field, but in wrestling,
• 18:55
  Speaker 8: you know specifically, Like I'm new to the game of wrestling,
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean. I play football for twin
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: the years. I've been wrestling for five six years. So
• 19:03
  Speaker 8: to somebody who's been wrestling for fifteen years, they look
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: at me like, you know, why is he in the
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: top spot?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm a rookie, you know what I mean?
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: If he wasn't six foot five and two hundred and
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: fifty pounds and had abs and had the good hair
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: and chains and talk so much trash, then he wouldn't
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: be that good.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of heat like everybody else.
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: But like that's that's the game of wrestling, you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: point blank period. So man, you know how that is.
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: You just you shove that off.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: But anybody ever try to hurt you in a ring
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: behind it?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I hope not, because I mean because at that point
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: you got to defend yourself.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: Has that happened, to know what I'm saying, Has it happened?
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Has anybody ever.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Tried to I don't.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: I don't think off script and really like try to
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: hurt you.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's pure malicious intent.
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: There's some people who are just thrown off in light
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: violence and if they do something like that, they expect
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: for you to do the same thing back to them.
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: But you know, somebody is saying, I don't like trick,
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: and I'm gonna try to punch him in the face
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: as hard as I can.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: What's the word seeing happened to you in the in
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: the ring that wasn't playing?
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: I tell you, man, I ran straight into a barricade
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: and I got six stitches right here. It's bleeding on TV,
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: and I take that back I was climbing the cage
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: a match. I wasn't even in mind you. I was
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: still hype man, and uh dude just hit me with
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: a chair like through through the gate and kind of
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: sliced me open right here. You know, a brutal match
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: called war games when you know weapons are allowed, but
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: you know, stuff happens.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: You know, he was really trying to get in.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you know those stunt doubles. You gotta do.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Whatever you say, hype man, break that down what a
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: hype man is because you said you wasn't that wasn't
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: your match, so you just was in the back.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Of like I'm coming, you know, like like like like
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: come on, come on, what you want me to do this?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Dang man?
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: But back, Explain to people what a hype man is.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: What you want me to do? Man, Iris.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Look at one another.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Trip.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Explain what a hype man is for people.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: That don't best time I've ever heard of a hype
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: man in wrestling.
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, like you know Buster rounds, you know Smith, you
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: know what I mean, Like, you know, Buster is the
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: main attraction, you know, And I was a guy making
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: sure that, hey, my guy wins at all times. I'm
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: doing everything in my power to make sure that they
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: look like a million bucks. Gotcha, And I did it well.
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: But you know that was the fun part, Like you
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: can build a rapport with the audience, you know, you
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: get comfortable in these different settings and scenarios. Now I'm
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: on the microphone, I'm doing intros and all this different stuff.
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: I'm getting better and leveling up, you know on somebody
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: else's behalf, you know, just growing behind the scenes, you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: I mean, just working on my craft until you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: I became the guy.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Do you pick that because it's like somebody like just
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: random do like I'm gonna be tricks hype man to
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: just start.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: Nah, it's not like that. Like a lot of people
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: who made decisions who you know, kind of put you
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: in position. But what the problem was, like I was
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: new into wrestling, so you can't just walk in and
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: be good, you know what I mean. It's like any
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: other craft. You gotta take years and years and years
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: to brush up on your move set and being a performer.
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: And I needed those reps in time to develop.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: How different is next from w W?
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so I would say NXT is like deaf comedy
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: jam back in the day where you know what I mean,
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: it wasn't like the mainstream but had that good, gritty,
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: underground feel, you know what I mean, as opposed to
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: like you know, the big specials and everything like that,
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: the Kings of Comedy that's not down or raw, you
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: know what I mean, But death comedy jam that's how
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: we feel. You know, it's more intimate. It's more raw,
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: like people hungry. I would say, like college sports, but
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: they getting paid now, so is at the.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Same level of resources and everything else?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, same performance center with based right there in Orlando.
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: People hungry, man like all different backgrounds like martial artists,
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: you know, basketball, football, hockey, table tennis, you know, indies
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: like everybody who's trying to break into the business and
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: blow up. You know, they got to come through NXT
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: more times than not all Sometimes I look at it
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: like they just had to combine last week like man, like,
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: you know, I feel like there's some untapped potential out there,
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: but i feel like I'm where I'm supposed to be,
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: so I'm cool with it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: Is more Is it more rules at WWE compared to NXC,
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: Like you'all could get away with more at next Well, NXT.
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: I would say, now it's way more like, way more
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: strict at NXT because you're not as polished, so they
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: want to make sure that you don't do nothing crazy
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: or stupid on TV. At NXT, like people been in
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: the business three minutes, you know what I mean, And
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: they don't live television, so you know, there's more producing,
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: there's more making sure that people are prepared for TV.
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: By the time you get the smack down a row.
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: It's literally your.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Own brand, Like go do what you gotta do to
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: make it work under the confide of what they give you. Permission,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: of course, is still lucrative. Oh yeah, for sure. The show.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: The show like definitely worth the switch from football to wrestling.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: Would you rather be a Hall of Fame wide receiver
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: or Hall of Fame in wrestling?
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: I say this, what I love about wrestling being a
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: superstar is the fact I am a superstar. I took
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: the hymet off and people know me in different countries. Man,
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: I go to Jamaica on vacation. You know they whooped
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: that trick in Patois, you know what I mean. I
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: go to Mexico and Saudi Arabia. Man, they don't speak English.
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: They carn'ing whoop that trick. Football is a beautiful sport.
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: I played it for twenty years, but it's very American,
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean. Like wrestling, you good around
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: the world. So it's just a whole different feeling, not
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: even though what's out there now you live in that
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: matrix or whatever you're doing. But you know, once you
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: branch out, you'd be like whoa, Like wrestling is huge.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: I know WrestleMania forty two. WrestleMania forty two is happening
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: in April. How does wrestle Mania feel because it always
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: to me on the outside looking in, always look at
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: that as wrestling super Bowl.
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: It is, Yeah, it is super Bowl. It's right back
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: in Las Vegas again this year. Las Vegas is full
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: of shows, entertainment, magic shows. But we are the show
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: to come and see the eighteenth and the nineteenth of April,
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: and your boys gonna have a match.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you is a pressure. It's a lot of pressure.
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: Like you said, it's a super Bowl, and like that's
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: what everybody, that's what it's all about, you know what
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: I mean? Like you want to main event WrestleMania, you
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: want to have a match on the biggest stage of
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: them all. Sixty thousand fans Night one, sixty thousand fans
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: Night two, one hundred and twenty thousand different people. They
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: are chanting your name, going crazy like that's what it's
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: all about. The biggest lights possible, the biggest production, all
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: the stars come out. It's a good feeling. Yeah, man,
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: it's about to go down.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Who is your ideal opponent for WrestleMania forty two?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Whoever wanted?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: You know, I ain't trying to brag, but you know
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: what I'm saying, Like, Trick is the hottest new talent
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: on the roster right now. So I mean, anybody who's
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: trying to get a little jump back into they deal they.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Want to take on Trick Williams for WrestleMania.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, we appreciate you for joining us.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Trick Williams, Good luck.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: WrestleMania goes down to eight.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: Qu Was your name supposed to be Matric or was
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: it supposed to be something else, like Matrix or something.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: My name is Matric, man, my dad's name is Patrick,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: my mom named Monica, And you know how we do.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You know how it goes?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Trick Mandree Belt matric Andre. My mom's name is.
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: Rosa.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah doing that, you know, were creative like that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: That's crazy because I thought you was a little Spanish
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: and so, yeah, Lauren Lrollo, I didn't know my mom
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: mom is Patrick?
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: His mom, I mean, his dad is Patrick, his mom's mom.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: It's the same thing. Black people just love putting names together.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but there you have it. It's Trick Williams
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: from the w w A.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning and talk about it.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: You'll have every day waiting click yours up. The Breakfast
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Club finished for y'all.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Done,