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The DiCecco Daily: Thoughts On How The Hollywood Brown Signing Helps The Eagles · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what's up. Everybody? Welcome in.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: This is the check O Daily Andrew decheco here Eagles
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  Speaker 2: Beat reporter Friendsidethebirds dot com, and we have some news.
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  Speaker 2: This is a player that I mentioned when I talked
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  Speaker 2: about my three wide receivers that I thought could be
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  Speaker 2: of interest, would be a good fit for the Phoodelphi Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings I mentioned Christian Kirk and the other one
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  Speaker 2: Marquise Hollywood Brown, and the third Marquise Hollywood Brown, agreed
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  Speaker 2: to terms with the Eagles, so one year deal worth
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  Speaker 2: up to six point five million. The totals and figures
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  Speaker 2: there provided by Jordan Schultz who initially reported it. And
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  Speaker 2: this is an interesting signing because I look at what
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown represents, and he is a speed merchant and
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  Speaker 2: he's never really been a volume based wide receiver. And
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  Speaker 2: that's okay because that's not what the Eagles need. They
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  Speaker 2: certainly don't need.
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  Speaker 1: Someone that can handle a lot of volume.
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  Speaker 2: They have enough issues getting the football to their top
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  Speaker 2: receivers to Dallas Goddard consistently. But Hollywood Brown is a
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  Speaker 2: four to three guy, diminutive in stature, five foot nine,
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty pounds, but he's proven over the
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  Speaker 2: course of his career that he can be a complimentary
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  Speaker 2: piece and accent what a team has already. In terms
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  Speaker 2: of skill players, I talked about the vertical element. He's
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  Speaker 2: always going to be a threat to get the football
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  Speaker 2: and test a secondary deep but even when he's not
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  Speaker 2: getting the football, and history would indicate that as a
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  Speaker 2: third receiver in this offense, or.
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  Speaker 1: At least in years past, you're not going.
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  Speaker 2: To see the football all that much, but you have
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  Speaker 2: to respect that speed and he could in theory clear
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  Speaker 2: out opportunities for teammates and he can help with spacing.
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  Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot of benefits here and
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  Speaker 2: he's a good number three. I think he's probably best
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  Speaker 2: suited to play inside. But let's go back because he
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  Speaker 2: was drafted in the first round back in twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 2: of the Baltimore Ravens. His best season occurred in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty one, his third year in the NFL. He had
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  Speaker 2: ninety one catches for just over one thousand yards. He's
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  Speaker 2: never went over the thousand yard marks since. But he's
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  Speaker 2: a fine, complimentary player and I think his skill set
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  Speaker 2: actually really accentuates what this offense could do, and it
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  Speaker 2: gives you a different type of dimension.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not one to.
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  Speaker 2: Get you to over sell an addition or a subtraction
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  Speaker 2: without reason, right I mean, but I think on its space,
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  Speaker 2: it's a fine signing. There weren't an abundance of receivers
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  Speaker 2: on the open market that would have given you a
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  Speaker 2: different fast potentially to the offense, and I think Hollywood
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  Speaker 2: Brown will be just behind in doing so. He's not
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  Speaker 2: a volume receiver. He's never really been that aside from
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  Speaker 2: one season but last year with the Kansas City Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: and he had an interesting tenure with the Kansas City Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: but he caught forty nine passes for five hundred and
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  Speaker 2: eighty seven yards and five touchdowns. I'm sure that anyone
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  Speaker 2: would sign up for that if he's able to provide
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  Speaker 2: that in Philadelphia. I don't think he's going to have
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  Speaker 2: those opportunities most certainly, but he proved that he can
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  Speaker 2: still factor into an offensive game plan. He can still
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  Speaker 2: be a difference maker, and depending on how you view it,
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  Speaker 2: that would be a difference maker. I think if he
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  Speaker 2: catches twenty five to thirty balls and has that impact
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  Speaker 2: with the speed where it forces defenses to play the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles differently, then the signing's going to be worth it.
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  Speaker 2: But his five hundred and eighty seven receiving yards were
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  Speaker 2: second on the Kansas City Chiefs, behind only tight end
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  Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey. Now the Eagles receiving group is now made
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  Speaker 2: up of aj Brown, DeVante Smith, Hollywood Brown, Johnny Wilson,
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  Speaker 2: Britton Covey, Darius Cooper, Qus Watkins, and Danny Gray. Do
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  Speaker 2: I expect the Eagles to draft the receiver, Yes, I do,
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  Speaker 2: but they don't have to feel compelled to reach. They
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  Speaker 2: sort of draft proof the roster from that position where
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  Speaker 2: you don't go into the draft saying to yourself, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I have to get a wide receiver. You're okay there
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  Speaker 2: at least right now, depending on what could happen down
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  Speaker 2: the line. But I think they have enough there where
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  Speaker 2: if a player falls to them and the fit is right,
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  Speaker 2: then you make you make the you make the selection.
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  Speaker 1: But right now, I think that the receiving.
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  Speaker 2: Corps needed a veteran depth option in the absence of
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  Speaker 2: Johan Dotson. And I'm not sitting here suggesting that you
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  Speaker 2: Dotson was a prominent player within the offense and that
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  Speaker 2: they couldn't get by without him.
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  Speaker 1: But I just read the names to you.
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  Speaker 2: You take Johan Dotson out of the mix, and let's
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  Speaker 2: say for this instance, you take Hollywood Brown out of
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  Speaker 2: the mix, then you have Darius Cooper, Johnny Wilson, Britain Covey,
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  Speaker 2: Qus Watkins, and Danny Gray. It lacks for experience. And
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  Speaker 2: now you have a player who has played with the
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  Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens for three seasons. He played for the Arizona
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  Speaker 2: Cardinals for two years. He was actually traded. The Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: traded their first round pick to get him. He was
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  Speaker 2: coming off that big season and they traded the twenty
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  Speaker 2: third overall pick to the Ravens. And they believe the
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  Speaker 2: Ravens sent over Hollywood Brown and a third round pick.
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  Speaker 2: So that tells you about how he was viewed in
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  Speaker 2: the league.
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  Speaker 1: Then a lot's changed.
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  Speaker 2: He did his time with the Cardinals for two years,
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  Speaker 2: and then he spent two years with the Chiefs. His
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  Speaker 2: first season, he injured himself in the preseason, missed most
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  Speaker 2: of the regular season and played in the final two games,
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  Speaker 2: and then they re signed Hywood Brown and he came
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  Speaker 2: back last season and played in sixteen games, started six
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  Speaker 2: So he still is a productive player. He's twenty eight
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  Speaker 2: years old, and I think for the one year of
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  Speaker 2: the one year deal variety, there's some upside here with
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  Speaker 2: this signing. I also want to take a look at
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  Speaker 2: the safety position because and I'll run through the names
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  Speaker 2: of who's currently on the roster, but the Eagles sorely
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  Speaker 2: need a veteran safety to this round out this group,
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  Speaker 2: especially going into the draft. Marcus EPs is still available.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he did a nice job filling in for
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  Speaker 2: Drew mccouba when he suffered the fractured ankle in late
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  Speaker 2: November against the Cowboys, and Marcus Epps is a steady,
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  Speaker 2: consistent player. He doesn't have other worldly athleticism. He doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have a ton of range. He reminds me a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of Reblanket Ship in a way, but he got
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  Speaker 2: to add more athleticism there. But he's really a third safety,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's really what they need, assuming that
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  Speaker 2: identify who they want to start next to Micuba in
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  Speaker 2: the draft. Unless you see a temporary placeholder and free agency,
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  Speaker 2: I thought Geno Stone would have been a nice fit,
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  Speaker 2: but he signed elsewhere. Marcus Heps would make a lot
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  Speaker 2: of sense to get a one year deal in place,
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  Speaker 2: not going to cost a ton. He knows the system,
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  Speaker 2: He's played well in this city before. Bring him in,
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  Speaker 2: and then he would add to in theory that group
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  Speaker 2: of Drew mccuba, Sydney Brown, Andre Sam and I want
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  Speaker 2: to break that group down a little bit because Macuba,
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  Speaker 2: I thought had a solid rookie season. It didn't start
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  Speaker 2: out particularly smooth, but he settled in. I think he
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  Speaker 2: got more comfortable. He saw him flying around. He was
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  Speaker 2: more confident and sure of what his assignments were. That
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  Speaker 2: was apparent to the eye. And then talking to him
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  Speaker 2: throughout the season, it was very apparent to me that
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  Speaker 2: he was starting to come into his own. That's a
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  Speaker 2: tough position, certainly in a Vic Fangio defense. And late
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  Speaker 2: in the year it was unfortunate that he got hurt
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  Speaker 2: because it impeded his progress because I thought that he
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  Speaker 2: was really starting to come on. He had two interceptions
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  Speaker 2: last year. He's a rangy guy, and going into this season,
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  Speaker 2: he is likely going to be the Eagles' top safety.
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  Speaker 2: So get to know Drew mccouba and go back and
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  Speaker 2: watch his tape because you're likely to see a lot
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  Speaker 2: of what I was just saying that he really improved
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  Speaker 2: throughout the season, and then we go to Sidney Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Sidney Brown is a special teams player primarily, he's a
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  Speaker 2: box safety by trade, but he is really utilized only
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  Speaker 2: on special teams. He got a chance to start initially
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  Speaker 2: when Macouba got hurt, didn't perform particularly well in that game,
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  Speaker 2: and I just think he leaves a lot to be
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  Speaker 2: desired from a discipline standpoint. He's not always fundamentally sound.
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  Speaker 2: He's kind of a wildcard out there. And what have
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  Speaker 2: we learned about what it takes to be a safety
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  Speaker 2: in a Vic Fangio defense. You have to be fundamentally
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  Speaker 2: you have to know your assignment. You can't play one
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  Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour because there's a considerable amount of
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  Speaker 2: responsibility placed on your shoulder. So if you break down,
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  Speaker 2: if there's a lapse in judgment, a lapse in coverage
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  Speaker 2: or decision making, the play is likely to be it's
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  Speaker 2: likely to be a lead to a busted coverage. And
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  Speaker 2: that happened to Makooba earlier in the season, but that
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  Speaker 2: started to get eliminated as he got more comfortable and
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  Speaker 2: sort of acclimated to a pretty challenging defense.
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  Speaker 1: From that position, So Sidney.
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  Speaker 2: Brown, I don't necessarily think that under Vic Fangio he's
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  Speaker 2: going to factor into the safety conversation as a starter
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  Speaker 2: or even someone who can be that third safety and
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  Speaker 2: play sporadically. I think he's best to you to be
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  Speaker 2: a special teamer and as a third round pick. That's
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  Speaker 2: tough to digest, but that's the that's what we have
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  Speaker 2: to go off of.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen enough of Sidney.
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  Speaker 2: Brown, and we've learned enough about Sidney Brown over the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of really three seasons, that it it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to see the fit within this defense. Andre sam is
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  Speaker 2: a player who the Eagles like, but I'm not so
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  Speaker 2: sure that they view him as anything more than a
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  Speaker 2: practice squad safety who can be elevated and give you
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  Speaker 2: competence snaps if needed. Those type of players are valuable
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  Speaker 2: to have around. I think that he has proven to
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  Speaker 2: be a better safety, a more reliable safety than Sydney Brown.
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  Speaker 1: That's just my two cents.
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  Speaker 2: I think he deserved to be on the fifty three
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  Speaker 2: man roster last season, and I know from talking to
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  Speaker 2: Andre that he's made a lot of strides in his
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  Speaker 2: game and he looks at every opportunity and with the
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  Speaker 2: mindset of seizing it and he got to get into
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  Speaker 2: three games last season. He was elevated and we'll see
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  Speaker 2: what happens this summer. He's twenty seven years old. As
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned, he played in three games last year, won
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  Speaker 2: as a rookie against the Panthers, mostly on special teams.
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  Speaker 1: They also have.
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Johnson, who, if you remember, in that final game
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  Speaker 2: of the season, he started at safety. He was playing,
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  Speaker 2: he almost had an interception, and then he suffered an
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  Speaker 2: ankle injury early in that game, forcing Michael Carter to
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  Speaker 2: go back there. And Michael Carter played, as he told
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  Speaker 2: me after the game, the most safety reps that he's played,
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  Speaker 2: I think he said since high school. So and then
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  Speaker 2: Michael Carter's interesting because he's a hybrid defensive back. I
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  Speaker 2: thought that while he has Nickel appeal and that's really
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  Speaker 2: what he's done in his career, he can play safety.
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  Speaker 2: He played safety at Duke, hasn't played it all that
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  Speaker 2: much in the NFL, But I think he puts some
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  Speaker 2: quality things on tape in that finale that maybe, if
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  Speaker 2: you're the Eagles, you're giving that some thought as to
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  Speaker 2: maybe we can really cross train this guy and view
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  Speaker 2: him more as a safety, so it balances out the
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  Speaker 2: room a little bit more. I like Michael Carter. I've
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  Speaker 2: had some really good conversations with him. Smart guy played
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  Speaker 2: at a high level. When he was with the Jets
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  Speaker 2: as a nickel corner, his play sort of tailed off
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, but I think that that is someone
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  Speaker 2: who is a sharp mind and he can tackle.
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  Speaker 1: Well. He's not the biggest guy in the world, but
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  Speaker 1: clearly the.
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  Speaker 2: Eagles wanted to give him a longer look, and he'll
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  Speaker 2: be in training camp and they traded for him at
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: the trade deadline. They renegotiated his deal, so he may
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  Speaker 2: be someone who finds his way into the safety mix
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: What capacity, Well, we're gonna find all that out.
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  Speaker 2: But then Brandon Johnson, he's also a nickel corner by trade.
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  Speaker 2: He can play outside, but he's really an inside guy.
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  Speaker 2: And then he's proven and he really started to learn
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  Speaker 2: this during the season that he was sort of cross
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  Speaker 2: training at safety, and I think having that versatility is intriguing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he's going to be a starter,
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: but if you're looking for sort of a dark horse
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: back of the roster guy or someone to follow through
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: Rotier's in training camp. My pick right now for you
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  Speaker 2: would be Brandon Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: There's obviously room to improve that safety group, and I
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: believe the Eagles will. It's only mid March right now,
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  Speaker 2: There's a long way to go.
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  Speaker 1: It's a marathon.
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  Speaker 2: I know that there are some that want to see
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: moves made instantaneously. That's not how this works. But I
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: get the urgency. But best believe that Howie Roseman isn't
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: going into a season without a plan. It's just a
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: matter of trying to identify what that plan can be,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: and then when it's enacted, how the pieces may fall
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: into place and how the fit might be. But he'll
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: have a plan, just as I like to say, just relax,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: stay patient, and understand that Drew mccooba has a lot
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  Speaker 2: of really good football ahead of him.
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  Speaker 1: He can be that top safety.
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  Speaker 2: And then I believe that in the modern era, you
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: need to get a little bit more athletic back there anyway,
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  Speaker 2: which I've mentioned when I was talking about reblanket ship.
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  Speaker 2: Macouba's athletic, he covers a ton of ground. I would
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: like to see the Eagles, especially in this defense, add
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  Speaker 2: a safety with more versatility, because I think that will
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: help the defense play a lot more cohesively and give
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: vic Fangio more optionality. And I'm someone who likes to
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: really hone in on the details and just the overall
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: schematics of a vic Fangio defense, So selfishly, I'd like
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  Speaker 2: to see a more rangey safety to pair with mcuba
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  Speaker 2: to see what this defense can look like, because there
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: is a lot of possibilities in terms of what they're
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: able to accomplish if you get.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody like that in there on the back end.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the position right now that's being talked about
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  Speaker 2: a lot, and rightfully, so they're really lean there and
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  Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to give you an overview of
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  Speaker 2: that group right now, and I still think that if
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: you're looking towards the draft, Emmanuel McNeil Warren out of Toledo,
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  Speaker 2: six foot four, He's somebody that I would attention to.
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  Speaker 2: ZAKEI Wheatley from Penn State. They have their pro day
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  Speaker 2: on Wednesday. I'll be monitoring that and trying to check
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  Speaker 2: around and seeing if the Eagles are in attendance. I
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: like his game quite a bit. There's Bud Clark from TCU.
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  Speaker 2: He's a talker on the field. He kind of reminds
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  Speaker 2: me a little bit of CJ. Gardner Johnson hearing him
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  Speaker 2: talk at the podium at the NFL Scouting Combine. So
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: there's names out there, and there's a lot of different
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: fits that would be appealing I would imagine for the Eagles,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, the free agent well hasn't dried up
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  Speaker 2: quite yet.
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  Speaker 1: They can find a veteran.
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  Speaker 2: I think they need to add a veteran to this
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: group because they're really young and inexperienced. So I think
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: the most logical course of action for me would be
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  Speaker 2: to bring back Marcus EPs, who knows the system and
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  Speaker 2: you know that he can.
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  Speaker 1: Play competently if need be. But for now, that's going
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: to do it.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: For this edition of the Czech Odaily, I'm Andrew Decheco
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: and I'll catch you all on the next one. O