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Hong is So Wrong, Buttigieg's Radical Agenda, Michigan's No-Grade Policy | Last Call · 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
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  Speaker 2: and Jim Garrity of National Review.
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  Speaker 3: Free Martini's Coming Up.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to the last call of the week for the
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  Speaker 4: Three Martini Lunch. This is our weekly recap of the
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  Speaker 4: biggest stories of the week. In this edition, the socialist
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  Speaker 4: front runner for governor in Wisconsin spends much of the
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  Speaker 4: week squirming over old tweets about how much she hates
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  Speaker 4: Thanksgiving and old white people. Pete boodaj Edge gets labeled
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  Speaker 4: to moderate by the media because of his tone, but
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  Speaker 4: his ideas are truly radical, and the University of Michigan
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  Speaker 4: says it will stop giving letter grades to first semester
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  Speaker 4: freshmen to help their mental health. And in our chaser
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  Speaker 4: of the week, Rand Paul's committee holds Anthony Fauci in
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  Speaker 4: contempt of Congress. But will it amount to anything? But
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  Speaker 4: we begin with the disturbing Democrat leading her primary for
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  Speaker 4: governor in Wisconsin. Ah Wisconsin Democratic Governor's primary. We just
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  Speaker 4: can't quit you because you just getting crazier. August eleventh
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  Speaker 4: is priority in Wisconsin, and man.
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  Speaker 1: Is this getting crazy?
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  Speaker 4: Last week we talked about how Mandela Barnes, the former
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  Speaker 4: lieutenant governor, left the race. I think there's some pretty
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  Speaker 4: good signs Jim that he was shoved in the back,
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  Speaker 4: probably by Tony Evers, the governor. And you know, formerly
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  Speaker 4: those guys were a ticket. But somewhere along the way
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  Speaker 4: there was a falling out. Evers originally endorsed his current
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  Speaker 4: Lieutenant governor, Sarah Rodriguez. A whole bunch of financial scandals
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  Speaker 4: ended that campaign, as well as the fact she wasn't
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  Speaker 4: polling well. And so then when that happened, Evers dragged
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  Speaker 4: a guy back into the race by the name of
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  Speaker 4: David Crowley, who had already dropped out Milwaukee County executive.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he was pulling, you know, barely out a
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  Speaker 4: pulse of any sort. So now it's pretty much down
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  Speaker 4: to Hong and Crowley. There are a couple other candidates
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  Speaker 4: in the race, and right now Wisconsin Democrats are not
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  Speaker 4: at all happy with Tony Evers. Political reporting that Ever's
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  Speaker 4: decision to back Crowley rattle Democrats who are already panicking
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  Speaker 4: about Francesca Honk's rise. She's the socialist who's easily lapping
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  Speaker 4: the field in the polls right now, interviews in the
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  Speaker 4: days since his endorsement with about two dozen Democratic strategists, donors, staffers,
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  Speaker 4: and party officials, many of whom were granted anonymity to
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  Speaker 4: speak candidly or share private discussions, revealed widespread shock and
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  Speaker 4: frustration over a move they say has galvanized anti establishment
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  Speaker 4: voters for Hong while splitting support among other candidates. Mike
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  Speaker 4: Van Sickling is quoted here, a former attorney in the
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  Speaker 4: Evers administration, longtime Democratic donor who is supporting a guy
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  Speaker 4: named Joel Brennan in the race, says what Tony has
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  Speaker 4: done as a lame duck is despicable. So Francesca Honk
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  Speaker 4: could potentially be benefiting from all this. But meanwhile, her
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  Speaker 4: tweets are coming out from back during the COVID days
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  Speaker 4: gem and wow, one of them cancel Thanksgiving. Should have
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  Speaker 4: done this in sixteen twenty one. If it takes a
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  Speaker 4: worldwide pandemic for us to realize that we should stop
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  Speaker 4: celebrating colonialism and the original super spreader event that killed
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  Speaker 4: indigenous folks and women, so be it. There's another one.
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  Speaker 4: This is July of twenty nineteen, even before COVID i ate.
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  Speaker 4: Two bites of my kids cheese burger at a Wolvers
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  Speaker 4: and Black River Falls and told him they ran out
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  Speaker 4: of ice cream. Mostly just wanted to leave because I
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  Speaker 4: was on the verge of an anxiety attack. Too many
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  Speaker 4: old white people who didn't think we spoke English. And
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  Speaker 4: then another one from later in twenty nineteen, it bro
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  Speaker 4: who was working on our computer remotely changed the background
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  Speaker 4: theme to snow and Christmas trees. I feel slightly attacked,
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  Speaker 4: so Jim. But the Democrats are pulling out these tweets.
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  Speaker 4: You know, all's fair in love and politics, and the
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  Speaker 4: Republicans are pulling them out. I'd say wait till after
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  Speaker 4: the primary. But between all that and the infighting over
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  Speaker 4: the governor meddling way too much. Man, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: run out of popcorn here.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, there's a very strong case
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  Speaker 3: to make that Francesca Hong is the early frontrunner for
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  Speaker 3: one of our end of the Year award martinis, some
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  Speaker 3: sort of like Rookie of the Year, just for the
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  Speaker 3: sheer number of times she has talked her way.
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  Speaker 1: Into our crazy Martini.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, if you're Representative Tom Tiffany,
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  Speaker 3: the Republican nominee, like your slow, like your campaign ad
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  Speaker 3: as soon as the primary is over? Is do you
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  Speaker 3: want to have Thanksgiving or do you want to see
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  Speaker 3: it banned? If you like Thanksgiving, you'd better have you know,
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  Speaker 3: better vote for Congressman Tiffany for governor.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like you're against Thanksgiving? Are you going up
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  Speaker 1: against apple? We're gonna ban apple pie? Next mom? The
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  Speaker 1: American flag, all that kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of stuff in her tweet where she says too many
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  Speaker 3: old white people who didn't know whether we spoke English?
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  Speaker 3: How did she know? Like did she go around and
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  Speaker 3: say do you think I speak English? Because I think
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  Speaker 3: if you ask the question do you think I speak English?
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  Speaker 3: In English, most people are going to say, yes, I
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  Speaker 3: know you speak English. You just you just did. So
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  Speaker 3: it seems like she walks around with a whole bunch
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  Speaker 3: of of kind of jumps to conclusions about other people.
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  Speaker 3: She convinced that lots of other people are hostile to
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  Speaker 3: her and out to get her, and changing the screensaver
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  Speaker 3: to Christmas trees or something like that. That's really not
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  Speaker 3: the if that if that's how your enemies are out
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  Speaker 3: to get you, it's really not that bad, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes people get shot at some people get
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  Speaker 3: you know, beat up and stuff like that. Oh, they
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  Speaker 3: changed my screen saver to a Christmas tree. Also, let's
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  Speaker 3: say kind of she's to her credit, she has not
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  Speaker 3: declared bankruptcy in her campaign like one of the other
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  Speaker 3: candidates when they found out that all our fund raising
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  Speaker 3: numbers are fraudulent. She simply had a personal debt of
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  Speaker 3: more than thirty thousand dollars in capital One came along
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  Speaker 3: and said, what's in your wallet and why haven't you
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  Speaker 3: used that to pay back the debt that you owe
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  Speaker 3: to us. Thankfully, her family bailed her out, and if
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  Speaker 3: the Hong family can bail out the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: state of Wisconsin, then maybe this isn't such a bad deal. However,
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  Speaker 3: I think the Hong family will not have enough liquid
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  Speaker 3: assets to cover all the spending that she wants to do.
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  Speaker 1: Also, she wants to owe.
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  Speaker 3: This is also the same woman for those who might
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  Speaker 3: remember who argue that the Green Bay Packers were an
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  Speaker 3: example of socialism and no, Jordan Love does not throw
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  Speaker 3: one pass to each receiver before you know, before giving
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  Speaker 3: a second pass to anyone else.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure you've noticed the trend gym whether it's Platner
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  Speaker 4: or Mom Donnie or Francesca Hong. These are people who
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  Speaker 4: are not coming up from necessarily the depths of poverty.
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  Speaker 4: Don't know specifically about Hong, but certainly Mandannie and platin Are.
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  Speaker 4: They very wealthy parents. And the candidates themselves don't really
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  Speaker 4: have a long track record of anything in terms of accomplishment.
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  Speaker 4: But because they're well healed, they have a chance to
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  Speaker 4: spend a lot of time ranting about what they see
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  Speaker 4: as the evils of capitalism and democracy and whatever. But
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  Speaker 4: it's just an interesting trend that I'm noticing here. They
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  Speaker 4: claim to be the defenders of democracy and so forth,
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  Speaker 4: but in the end they're just a bunch of whiners.
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  Speaker 3: So the phrase yuppie used to came from a young
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  Speaker 3: upwardly mobile. It was either young urban professional or young
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  Speaker 3: upwardly mobile professional. Well, a lot of these people are
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  Speaker 3: downwardly mobile. They have had grown up fairly well off,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes middle class, sometimes upper class, went out to college,
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  Speaker 3: got degrees, probably accumulated a decent amount of student debt.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't all study basket weaving, but they generally studied
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  Speaker 3: things that have not enabled them to go into the
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  Speaker 3: working world and make the amount of money that they
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  Speaker 3: expected to. Now this may be a matter of them
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  Speaker 3: having wildly unrealistic expectations, this may be changed in the economy,
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  Speaker 3: but either way, they cannot make money the way they
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  Speaker 3: want to, and they have concluded that it's not I
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  Speaker 3: study the wrong thing, or my skills are not valuable enough,
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  Speaker 3: or where I'm living in if it's New York City
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  Speaker 3: is the most expensive, one of the most expensive cities.
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  Speaker 1: In the world.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I'm having a hard time making ends meet. No, no
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  Speaker 3: society has failed them. Capitalism has failed them, and it's
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  Speaker 3: everyone's fault, but theirs.
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  Speaker 4: Well. Francesca Hang is supposedly a chef, but I think
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  Speaker 4: slash three mL. All right, Jim, Obviously we're locked in
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  Speaker 4: on twenty twenty six here, we're just about three months
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  Speaker 4: away from midterm election day, But twenty twenty eight positioning
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  Speaker 4: is happening all over the place behind the scenes, because
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  Speaker 4: as we found out in twenty twenty two, people are
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  Speaker 4: going to be jumping in before Christmas, probably even before
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  Speaker 4: Thanksgiving and running for president in twenty twenty eight. And
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  Speaker 4: earlier this week, Pete Boudha Judge let it be known
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  Speaker 4: that he's leaning more towards running than not running, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: other than maybe Gavin Newsom. Pete Bota Judge was a
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  Speaker 4: given for twenty twenty eight. In fact, I'm never really
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  Speaker 4: sure that he stopped running after twenty twenty. His whole
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  Speaker 4: time is Transportation secretary, and everything since then has been
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  Speaker 4: all an angle to do that. But politicos Jonathan Martin
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  Speaker 4: has been going around meeting with potential presidential candidates and
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  Speaker 4: always finding some sort of local restaurant to stuff their
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  Speaker 4: faces in while they talk about these issues. But this
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  Speaker 4: clip from their conversation is what kind of gets me
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  Speaker 4: about Pete boodha Jedge, and it drives me nets because
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  Speaker 4: everybody listens to how he's calm as he says it,
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  Speaker 4: I guess and says, oh, he's so insightful, he's so brilliant,
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  Speaker 4: he's so nuanced, and so basically the idea here is
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  Speaker 4: go for big radical change, but in the meantime, take
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  Speaker 4: the wins you can get, because no one else in
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  Speaker 4: politics has ever thought of that before.
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  Speaker 2: Every big swam there is a base hit. So for
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  Speaker 2: the big swing of electoral college reform in the Constitution,
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  Speaker 2: there's a base hit, which is passing the compact state
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  Speaker 2: by state.
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  Speaker 1: Many states have passed it.
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  Speaker 2: For a big swing like proportional representation in Congress, which
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  Speaker 2: ideally would mean that you could elect more than one
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  Speaker 2: member in the district, the same way we do school
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  Speaker 2: board races in this country. The base hits are things
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  Speaker 2: like rank choice voting, which is already being used to
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  Speaker 2: like senators in Mainland Alaska, or open primaries, or a
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  Speaker 2: lot of other measures that are ill right for what
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  Speaker 2: I want to do with money in politics.
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  Speaker 1: The big swing is a constitutional change.
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  Speaker 2: The base hit, which is still pretty ambitious, is things
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  Speaker 2: like what they're doing in Montana with the Montana Plan,
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  Speaker 2: which is a ballid initiative that addresses money and politics.
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  Speaker 2: The same thing is true I think on policy front,
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  Speaker 2: So on any policy that I think we should have,
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  Speaker 2: like a deep fundamental change, there's something you can do
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  Speaker 2: along the way. I guess my point is, don't do
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  Speaker 2: the incremental change at the expense of the big change.
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  Speaker 2: Do the incremental change while you're pursuing the big change.
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  Speaker 2: One should be in the service of the other, not
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  Speaker 2: pitting them against each other.
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  Speaker 4: So there's the fact that he's basically stating the obvious here,
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  Speaker 4: but also don't miss the fact that he's got a
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  Speaker 4: pretty radical agenda that he's pushing here, and even what
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  Speaker 4: he considers the base hits of course terrible ideas.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, let me begin by saluting Jonathan Martin
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  Speaker 3: for figuring out how can I get to eat some
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  Speaker 3: of the best restaurants across the country and either get
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  Speaker 3: work to for it or deducted as a business expense.
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  Speaker 3: So well done, Jonathan Martin, You're living the dream. Secondly,
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: there was interesting because there was another interview where with
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  Speaker 3: I Think the Diary of a CEO hosts the podcast,
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  Speaker 3: where buddhage Edge went down a similar litany of goals
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  Speaker 3: and said, this isn't radical.
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  Speaker 1: Stuff, Yes it is, Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 3: This is you know, like when you're talking about limit
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  Speaker 3: edding the filibuster, that's a radical change that suddenly you
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  Speaker 3: you know, you require you fifty votes or fifty one votes,
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  Speaker 3: you could do whatever you wanted in the Senate. You
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  Speaker 3: would the minority would no longer have any ability to
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  Speaker 3: stop or derail ideas that they think are a bad idea.
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  Speaker 3: For the last what three generations, we've had this sixty
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  Speaker 3: vote threshold, right, different levels of how often it gets imposed,
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  Speaker 3: Like that's there, adding more Supreme Court justices, that is
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  Speaker 3: a radical change. Right to say more than one person
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  Speaker 3: in a district, that's a radically. This is like wholesale
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  Speaker 3: rewriting the constitution. And he's saying, but this isn't a radical,
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  Speaker 3: Yes it is right now if you're looking at here
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  Speaker 3: and kind of rolling your eyes and saying, oh god,
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  Speaker 3: boota Judge, aren't retired of this guy?
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  Speaker 1: You know, didn't he what didn't we last.
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  Speaker 3: See him when he was like on the patternity to
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  Speaker 3: leave for two months and nobody noticed and you know
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: then all the flights got canceled and all that stuff
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: and the port strike on the West coast. Last month,
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: the University of New Hampshire did a poll of New
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  Speaker 3: Hampshire Democrats. The headline coming out was that Alexandrio Cossio
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  Speaker 3: Cortes is the front runner at twenty two percent. Right
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  Speaker 3: behind that was Pete Botajudge at twenty one percent. I
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  Speaker 3: think it is when you start there, it is very
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  Speaker 3: likely that Boota Jedge is going to be at least.
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  Speaker 1: Top five and probably at least top.
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  Speaker 3: Three in New Hampshire a bit more than a year
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  Speaker 3: from now. So BUTA Judge is probably going to be
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  Speaker 3: around here. And I do worry that, like you and
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  Speaker 3: I have lamented for a long time when the mainstream
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  Speaker 3: media describes the Democrat as a moderate. They mean the
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  Speaker 3: reassuring hand gestures, the tone of voice. At McKinsey, we
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  Speaker 3: believe that opportunity and problem are two signs at the
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  Speaker 3: same coin. No, Buddha Jette has done a million and
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  Speaker 3: one PowerPoint presentations and wowed rooms of corporate executive's time
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  Speaker 3: and again as his time as a corporate consultant. And
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  Speaker 3: I think he's doing you know, this is kind of
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  Speaker 3: the Obama uh uh strategy of taking a very left
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  Speaker 3: agenda and making it sound common sense and middle relaxed,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the sort of thing that's not going to
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  Speaker 3: freak out your mom or her neighbors. And that's that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of the you know the thing here, So I
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: would not underestimate it now. Trump famously said America will
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  Speaker 3: not elect a president who looks like alfredy Newman. I'm
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: not sure that's why he grew the beard, but I
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: noticed he doesn't look like he did back when he
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  Speaker 3: first appeared on the scene. And also, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the knock on him back then was that he was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the boy wonder mayor who had really had
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  Speaker 3: done done that much in South Bend. He's not young anymore,
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  Speaker 3: and he looks like he's been around for a while.
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  Speaker 3: So the idea of who is this kid and what's
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  Speaker 3: he doing that's not really going to be an effective
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  Speaker 3: knock on him this time around, regardless of what you
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  Speaker 3: think of his time as Secretary of Transportation. So I, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this is kind of ridiculous. But also I'm kind of
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  Speaker 3: getting this the the you know, spidey sense, you know,
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  Speaker 3: hair's in the back of my neck, are starting to
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  Speaker 3: say Bootajes just could be stronger in this upcoming primary
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  Speaker 3: than we think, you know, than we think he could be.
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  Speaker 4: No, I think that's right. South Carolina's going to go first.
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  Speaker 4: He's not going to do well there probably, but you
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  Speaker 4: mentioned New Hampshire where he's very competitive. He moved from
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  Speaker 4: Indiana to Michigan. Michigan's now in one of the i
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  Speaker 4: think one of the top five primaries in the lineup,
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  Speaker 4: and some people think that his message, his you know
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  Speaker 4: whatever is going to play well in Virginia, which is
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  Speaker 4: one of the early primaries as well. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: don't underestimate him. Even though his record has mayor his
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  Speaker 4: record as a Secretary of Transportation, there's really nothing to
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  Speaker 4: point to, but He's glib on the debate stage, and
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  Speaker 4: the left is convinced that he owns Fox News every
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  Speaker 4: time he's on there, and so these days that might
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  Speaker 4: be enough to get you some momentum in the Democratic primary.
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  Speaker 4: But this agenda is truly radical if it.
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  Speaker 3: Comes down to her and AOC and like the Biden
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  Speaker 3: versus Sanders or twenty twenty types setup, if you're a Democrat,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't boota jege look like the smart like I just
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  Speaker 3: smart play in terms of, like, you know, all of
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  Speaker 3: his you know, ivy league degrees. I don't just mean
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  Speaker 3: also making fun of AOC and her lack of uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know her the fact that she is not the
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  Speaker 3: sharpest knife in the drawer, Like, he just looks like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a much better chance of playing in the
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  Speaker 3: Midwest and all those key swing states than she is.
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  Speaker 3: So like, I, you know, I'm talking myself with the
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  Speaker 3: believing the boodh Jude could actually run the table here
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  Speaker 3: and end up being the nominee.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, don't overlook him, I'll say that much. Who
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  Speaker 1: All right, Jim.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: You know I'm from Michigan. You know I cheer for
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: the Michigan Wolverine football team. I am perfectly happy to
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: celebrate the twenty twenty three National Championship controversies aside. But
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: when it comes to the uh wokeness on campus, Michigan
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: is no stranger to that.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen them. You know.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Embrace the students who want to you know, globalize the
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: into FADA and all that. But when it comes to
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: actually grading students, oh, that's too much. That's too much.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: This is an actual statement from the University of Michigan
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: College of Literature, Science and Arts, at least parts of it.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: The college is working collaboratively with faculty and staff across
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: campus to design a pilot program that helps foster an
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: environment where college students can acclimate to the demands of
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: a University of Michigan education and pursue new academic challenges,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: beginning in the fall of twenty twenty seven. So next fall,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: the college will designate all LSA Literature Science and Arts
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: first year students first semester grades as pass or no
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: credit on their transcripts. While the students will still receive
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: grades and instructor feedback and every course as they always have.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Final grades will not be recorded on their external transcripts
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: and will not be reflected in their GPAs LSA students
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: official transcripts will state that all grades in the first
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: semester are automatically designated as pass or no credit.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Why while we believe that.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Covering grades will help students start strong and curb the
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: mental health crisis unfolding among colleged aged individuals, and because
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: we can't have anyone with any sort of stigma, Jim,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: we have to include everyone in this, not just the
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: ones who might be struggling with mental health. If covered
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: grades are optional, covering an individual's grades will inadvertently become
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: equated with them not doing well in a class. If
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: the policy is the same for all students, it is
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: equitable across the board. Jim. I know this is a
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: tired saying for some, but you know, eighty years ago
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: we had eighteen year olds storming beaches. We had them,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: you know, coming out of the Great Depression and so forth.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Is maybe getting a see the most damaging thing that's
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: going to happen to these people they can't mentally recover from.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, how fragile are we here, Greg?
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Why can't they impose this at like completely random semesters
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Back when I was in school, I think the first
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: one went pretty well. Those are usually introduct classes. It's
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: later on that I needed to make some of these
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: grades disappear. Look, first of all, recognizing that, you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: going from high school to college is a big transition.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I have one kid in college.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I have another one that's going to be going in
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: a couple of years now for a couple of years
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: from now. And I, you know, granted, this is you
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: you're living on your own for your first time, like
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: this is you know, you're you're away from your family.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: This is a big step. And yes, I you know
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: you want to do everything you can to smooth along.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: First of all, as I understand it, University of Michigan
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: is on the semester system, not the quarter system. So
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: this is like one eighth of your college career that
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: you're going to have either you know, pass or no credit.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: We're not going to have you any A bunch of schools,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: including my older ones, are on the quarter system, so
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: they're actually only taking three credit three classes per quarter.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: But in case, it's a two month span, so like,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: it's the same amount of work you do and it's
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: very intense. You basically have classes every day. Uh so
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: you end up doing the same amount of work. So
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: if you if they were on the quarter system and
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: it was one sixteenth of the time, we're going to
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: have this past no credit thing. I guess I could
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: live with that. You know, this is this does seem
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: like a lot. Secondly, Greg, did you have you ever again?
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: You know, I think you're probably you must have been
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: an academic all star. You're such a smart guy. Did
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: you ever get a grade in class where you're like, oh,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I had no idea I did that badly, or I
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: had no idea I did that well? Oh sure, I
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: really okay, because I was gonna say yeah every time
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I did badly. I came out of that test saying,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: oh man, I did not study nearly enough. I walked
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: in thinking I was prepared.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I was not.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: So the idea of the stress of not doing well. Yeah,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: maybe you don't have it on your final transcript, but
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: you know how you did. You know how you how
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: you did in that class. Do you know how you fit,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: how you felt in the class discussions? Do you know
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: whether you did the readings, you can like it, you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: it's like it's like literally putting a piece of paper
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: over the grade. How you did is still there, whether
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: you learn the material is still there. And I just
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: find this kind of somewhat employee. It's one of those
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: things where it's like it's like playing peekaboo. I strongly
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: suspect if a class is stressing you because either you
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: don't like the subject material, or it's really hard, or
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the fester is very demanding, all that stuff is still there,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: whether or not you actually show the test results. So
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I find this really it's probably well meaning, but not
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: going to be very effective. And it also again considers
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: this sense of really like, also, Greg, if these folks
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: could handle the grades in high school, why alls off
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: while you turned eighteen nineteen? Now it's a lot harder.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Is this really a matter of You've heard about students
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: who do this? Where the good news is is that
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: here in Fairfax County, the schools are kind of like
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: the Hunger Games, and you just like, you know, we
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: have relentless, you know, pressure to do great in high school.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Do these kids in other class and other communities do
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: they kind of coast through high school, get into college,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: and then it's a lot harder and all of a
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: sudden they fall apart. Is that what's going on here?
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Because if that's the problem, you need to prepare the
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: kids better. You don't need to hide the grades to
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: make them feel better about themselves.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Jim, I don't know what it was like for you
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: in high school and college and what your parents expected
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: or how much they pride about your grades.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And disappointment and this disappointment.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: But you know, first of all, you're forking over tuition here. Secondly,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to imagine my mother saying how did the
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: test go? And I'd be like, I pasted.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: They tested me and I passed. That's how you got
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to put it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: People, there are many challenges in life. There are things
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: that will be much bigger than not having a great
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: start to your college career. I think you can probably
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: handle it, and if you can't, maybe a gap year
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: or something else besides college is appropriate for you.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: But that's absolutely ridiculous.
• 22:31
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  Speaker 3: Maybe didn't think about it back then because we didn't
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• 24:04
  Speaker 1: All right, Jim.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Last week was Tony Fauci pleading the fifth before the
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Senate Governmental Affairs and Oversight Committee. Today Chairman Ran Paul
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: pushing contempt of Congress charges against Fauci. It was approved
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: by the committee eight to five. Democrats tried to table
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: the vote and then suggested giving Fauci immunity to come
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: in and actually testify, but Paul pointing out, hey, you
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: had a pardon for everything you've said before. All you
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: had to do this time was tell the truth. So Jim,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not surprised by this. I'm not sure where it's going,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: but I think it's a reasonable decision here by the committee.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, we for listeners, you know, Greg,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I hope you won't mind me revealed we debated making
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: this a martini, and I'm kind of skeptical we might
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: became our chaser because I'm not quite sure what comes
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: out of this. This will go to the full Senate.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: The Senate will probably vote to hold him in contempt.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: It will referm to the Department of Justice for criminal referral,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and I suspect that the Trump administration's Department of Justice
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: will try to find Todd Blanche try to find some
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: way to bring charges against Fauci. Fauci will say that
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: he the argument like, Fauci can't say my pardon covers this,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: because the pardon only covers actions taken right, you know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: from like twenty fourteen to the last day of the
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Biden presidency, you know, and you can say I showed
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: up to the hearing that was not contempt. I invoked
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: the Fifth Amendment right that I have under the Constitution.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Now Paul argues that if you have the pardon, you
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: can't invoke the Fifth Amendment. I think they'll go back
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: and forth on this. I don't expectably resolved, and I
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: just this. I know this is an attempt to hold
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Fauci accountable. I don't think it's necessarily going to have
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: that much of an impact. I think it'd be very
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: tough depending. You know, this is another case where I
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: can have a tough time seeing a DC grand jury
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: saying yes, let's hold him a contempt of Congress. I
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: also think probably judges and juries will look at this
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: rather skeptically. You know, I think the true consequence for
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: what Fauci did was, you know, the making him invoke
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: the fifth on every every single question and including what
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: color is your tie? And what day of the week
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: is it? And what color is the carpet in the room.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Although it'd be perfectly honest, Greg, if you asked me
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: under oath what day of the week it was, there's
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: a good chance I'd get it wrong.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, again, the fact that he didn't have
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: to try to explain away his previous statements because those
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: are all covered by the part. And I don't see
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: what ground he really has to stand on. And if
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: you know, people like Peter Navarro had to go to
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: jail for either not show I guess he didn't show
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: up at all, but not testifying before Congress. I'm not
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: sure what ground Fauci has to stand on. I think
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: he's got even less to some extent, but we'll find out.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Will there be a prosecution maybe, Will they get convicted
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: in DC? Hard to say, probably not, but doesn't mean
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: you don't necessarily try. That's the last call of the
• 26:43
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