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Strike Three! Yerrr OUT! | HBR News 550 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: This is HBr News number five fifty strike three year
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  Speaker 1: out where we discussed the news of the week and
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  Speaker 1: give it the Badger treatment. Hello everybody, and welcome back
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, nah, yeah, so absurd I'm laughing extra hard, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm not extra consumed.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: And that is doctor Randamercam, the guy who brings the
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  Speaker 1: On this week's show, we're gonna be talking about the
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  Speaker 1: newest attempt on the President's life, revisiting the SPLC indictments,
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  Speaker 1: because when we got them last week, it was breaking, breaking, breaking,
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  Speaker 1: so we didn't really like have much to say. We
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  Speaker 1: just announced it, it happened. So I have something of
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna finish this article from The Times. I helped
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  Speaker 1: build the manispherit then it destroyed me about Lauren Southern's
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  Speaker 1: trip down the rabbit hole and how it somehow ruined
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  Speaker 1: her life and it was totally nothing that she did
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  Speaker 1: at all. And yet and now she's going to, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: try to fix the thing that she got.
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  Speaker 3: The coatrolls by the way, because Laura's out here saying,
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  Speaker 3: ha ha, I invented the manusphe in twenty fifteen, and
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  Speaker 3: she knows she didn't.
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  Speaker 1: It's it could just be a and I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: angry about it, but I am going to read through
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  Speaker 1: the article to see because ultimately, what I think has
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  Speaker 1: happened here, and this is why I think this is
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  Speaker 1: what we're talking about, is that this is ammunition for
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  Speaker 1: our enemies in the media.
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  Speaker 2: And that's really like why this is important.
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  Speaker 1: It's got not a lot to do with Lauren Southern,
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  Speaker 1: per se, and more to do with the way The
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  Speaker 1: Times is going to use this going forward in the
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  Speaker 1: same way that Louis Throw's documentary. You know, he didn't
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  Speaker 1: talk to any like real manisphere of people. But that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the point, right. The point was to discredit the
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  Speaker 1: online conversation around men's issues, and this was an easy
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  Speaker 1: way to do it because you can target It's like
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  Speaker 1: targeting what they saw as a weak spot.
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to finish this article.
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  Speaker 1: I think where we left off is like after she
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  Speaker 1: made allegations against Andrew Tate, and I think that if
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  Speaker 1: memory serves, there are more allegations against more people, more
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  Speaker 2: Into today's stories. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Last weekend, at the White House correspondence dinner, a man
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  Speaker 1: breached security and open fire. The man, later identified as
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  Speaker 1: thirty one year old Cole Thomas Allen, ran right through
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  Speaker 1: the security checkpoint, armed with a shotgun, a handgun, multiple knives.
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  Speaker 1: He was going in like John Wick. Alan fired several shots,
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  Speaker 1: only managing to hit one Secret Service agent, who suffered
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  Speaker 1: only minor injuries due to his bulletproof vest. Before being
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  Speaker 1: tackled and disarmed by other Secret Service agents. Alan was
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  Speaker 1: taken alive, and ultimately no one was seriously wounded or killed.
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  Speaker 1: The whole incident lasted less than one minute. Cole Thomas
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  Speaker 1: Allen was a resident of Torrance, California, where he was
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  Speaker 1: seemingly well liked and intelligent teacher. Was a seemingly well
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  Speaker 1: liked and intelligent teacher. He graduated from cal Tech in
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  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, earning both an engineering degree and a master's
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  Speaker 1: degree in computer science. He was also awarded Teacher of
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  Speaker 1: the Month in December of twenty twenty four. He also
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  Speaker 1: attended at least one of the anti Trump no King's
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  Speaker 1: protests in California. At one point in October of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four, he donated twenty five dollars to the Kamala
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  Speaker 1: Harris presidential campaign. When officials talked to his sister, she
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  Speaker 1: stated that he often spoke about politics and made radical remarks.
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  Speaker 1: He also liked to vaguely suggest that he was going
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  Speaker 1: to do something to fix the world's situation. Mike Ja
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  Speaker 1: wrote this, and I think what he's doing is he's
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  Speaker 1: sort of like preparing for the inevitable. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: what his motive is, you know that's going to come
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  Speaker 1: out of the medium anyway. Alan Alan also left behind
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  Speaker 1: a manifesto, laying out his ideology, his goals that he
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  Speaker 1: hoped to accomplish, and how he hoped to accomplish those goals. First,
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  Speaker 1: he apologized to everyone that he deceived as he lied
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  Speaker 1: to his friends, family, and coworkers about being out of
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  Speaker 1: town for reasons other than what he was actually intending
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  Speaker 1: to be doing. And then he apologized to everyone he
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  Speaker 1: put in danger simply by being around them, including the
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  Speaker 1: people that handled his luggage which contained his firearms, and
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  Speaker 1: the guests at the hotel where the dinner would be. Lastly,
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  Speaker 1: he apologized to everyone hurt, abuse, and murdered, suggesting that
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  Speaker 1: this was committed by the President and his administration before
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  Speaker 1: his attempt and after, regardless if.
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  Speaker 2: He succeeded or failed.
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  Speaker 1: He then repeated the baseless cunards that leftists and the
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  Speaker 1: mainstream media repeat ad nauseum about Trump, calling him a rapist, pedophile,
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  Speaker 1: and trader. Stating that he is no longer willing to
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  Speaker 1: allow this to continue. He lays out who he wants
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  Speaker 1: to kill, stating that his goal is to kill as
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  Speaker 1: many administration officials as possible, but noticeably excludes FBI Director
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  Speaker 1: Cash Patel by name for reasons that are currently unknown.
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  Speaker 1: I have my theory on why he said except for
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  Speaker 1: mister Patel, but maybe we'll get into that later. In
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  Speaker 1: the discussion part, he continues, stating that he wishes not
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  Speaker 1: to kill any Secret Service agents, but will return fire
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  Speaker 1: if they shoot first, and says the same about hotel security,
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  Speaker 1: Capitol police, and even the National Guard. While he thought
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  Speaker 1: he was going up against everybody, but notes that hotel
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  Speaker 1: employees and guests are not his intended targets. He then
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  Speaker 1: adds a section concerning expected objections to his actions and
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  Speaker 1: the rebuttals that he gives to each one. Then he
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  Speaker 1: thanks everyone he knows before signing off as cold force
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  Speaker 1: friendly Federal assassin Alan that's a big middle name, but
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  Speaker 1: then briefly continue stating that he believes the Secret Service
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  Speaker 1: and security in general at the hotel is a joke
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  Speaker 1: and that it was far too easy for him to
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  Speaker 1: smuggle in multiple weapons. He then actually signs off with
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  Speaker 1: one last chilling message that provides a clear glimpse into
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  Speaker 1: his warp thinking quote.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and if anyone is.
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  Speaker 1: Curious, If anyone is curious, is how doing something like feels?
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  Speaker 2: It's awful. I want to throw up.
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  Speaker 1: I want to cry for all the things I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do and never will, for all the people whose
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  Speaker 1: trust this betrays. I experience rage thinking about everything this
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  Speaker 1: administration has done. Can't really recommend it stay in school
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  Speaker 1: kids end quote. I have more stuff to add, a miyan,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll let you guys, You and Mike and Hannah say,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to add to this, but.
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  Speaker 3: If you had to send it off of the stay
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  Speaker 3: in school kids, has there been a better endorsement for
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  Speaker 3: not staying in schools or ever going there in the
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  Speaker 3: first fucking place. Whatever it is they're teaching in those schools.
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  Speaker 3: Evidently it's not just the students who become mass murderers,
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  Speaker 3: it's the teachers. I mean, he's a teacher, among other things.
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  Speaker 3: He's an engineer, he's a computer science thing. Whatever the
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  Speaker 3: point is status wise, he's just a normal bloke. He's
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  Speaker 3: not a high profile criminal, and he's not a crazy,
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  Speaker 3: homeless vagabond or whatever. He's just a normal bloke who
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  Speaker 3: went to school and watched TV and listened to the
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  Speaker 3: curriculum and paid attention to the media. There was no
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  Speaker 3: isis involved, there was no anti as far as we know.
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  Speaker 3: He just did what he was told and he believed
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  Speaker 3: in the propaganda that he was assured is the truth.
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  Speaker 3: And he came out of that system determined to kill
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  Speaker 3: and determined to die, to sacrifice his life for the
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  Speaker 3: sake of killing of ending lives. And that's maybe the
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  Speaker 3: US Marine Corps should take notice. It's that easy, folks.
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  Speaker 3: You're putting men through this grueling campaign of this full
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  Speaker 3: metal jacket, dehumanizing brainwashing, conditioning to try and get them
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  Speaker 3: into this brutalized mindset where they're ready and willing to
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  Speaker 3: die for the sake of murder. Well, turns out you
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  Speaker 3: can do it without anyone setting foot in the boot
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  Speaker 3: camp in the first place. Just send them to school
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  Speaker 3: for half of the day and look them in front
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  Speaker 3: of the TV for the other half of the day.
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  Speaker 3: That's all it takes. You don't need the obstacles, the
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  Speaker 3: obstacle courses and the marching and the sir yes, sir,
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  Speaker 3: And they're hitting each other with soap when they do
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  Speaker 3: wrong or whatever, and you certainly don't need to make
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  Speaker 3: them play a murder simulator on some kind of computer.
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  Speaker 3: For decades, we've been told that video games, especially first
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  Speaker 3: person shooter video games, are turning people into ruthless, cold
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  Speaker 3: blooded killers.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if it was that.
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  Speaker 3: Easy, then these army boot camps would be making their
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  Speaker 3: recruit their recruits play fucking Call of Duty or Doom
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  Speaker 3: or some shit. But they don't, because a video game
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  Speaker 3: played on a screen is no more conditioning, no more
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  Speaker 3: brainwashing than a board game played on a fucking tabletop.
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  Speaker 3: Like it bears no relation to the reality of killing,
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  Speaker 3: and it certainly doesn't make people want to kill, because
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  Speaker 3: that's a whole different kettle of fish. But the media.
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  Speaker 2: Does that.
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  Speaker 3: They do that schools do that because they are in
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  Speaker 3: doctrination centers. It's these are the good guys and those
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  Speaker 3: are the bad guys, and if you disagree, you're one
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  Speaker 3: of the bad guys. But but sir, but well, I
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  Speaker 3: guess mum, but ma'am was supposed to be doing the
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  Speaker 3: chapter on ionic bonds today.
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  Speaker 2: Shut up.
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  Speaker 3: Today, we're talking about how the rainbow flag is the
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  Speaker 3: Way and the light BLM is the one true God,
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  Speaker 3: and George Floyd is his messenger, and Ice is the
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  Speaker 3: third Reich and Donald Trump is the devil. Whoops, the
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  Speaker 3: fucking daisies. Someone tried to kill Donald Trump again. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it it doesn't even matter if this was staged. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it was, but I'm certainly not one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter anyway. Even if the the Butler
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  Speaker 3: Pennsylvania incident was staged, even if all of the assassin
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  Speaker 3: assassination attempts on Trump so far have been staged or
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  Speaker 3: they never happened, it's still not okay to present these
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  Speaker 3: upside down, black and white side swipes of information to
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  Speaker 3: children and two stupid people while claiming that it's the
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  Speaker 3: true if what when children are playing with their toys.
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  Speaker 3: They especially boys, They like to have a strong sense
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  Speaker 3: of of who is the goodies and who is the baddies,
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  Speaker 3: like with your he Man or your ThunderCats or your
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  Speaker 3: Transformers or whatever. Yeah, and they don't mind playing as
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  Speaker 3: the baddies children because they they know they're just playing.
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  Speaker 3: They're not really goodies or baddies. It's all. It's all
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  Speaker 3: just this play that they do.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: One of the worst things you can do to a
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  Speaker 3: child's mind is to break that boundary between play and reality,
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  Speaker 3: to tell them that morality in real life is just
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  Speaker 3: as black and white as it is in their playful
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  Speaker 3: fantasies between skeleton and he Man. Like, actually, uh, the
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  Speaker 3: reality out here. It's not a complex network of equally
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  Speaker 3: human humans with slightly different political ideas. No, it really is.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard line good guys, bad guys. And unlike in
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  Speaker 3: your playful fantasies, you cannot be the bad guys whatsoever,
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  Speaker 3: not even for a moment, or we will utterly destroy you,
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  Speaker 3: for we are the good guys. And I'm gonna be honest, folks,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what does it. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 3: the violent video games. I don't think it's the guns.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even think it's the SSRIs by themselves. I
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  Speaker 3: think this black and white thinking is the bulk of
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  Speaker 3: the problem. Black and white thinking was only ever supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be a fantasy, a fantasy when you're playing with
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  Speaker 3: ThunderCats or reading Lord of the Rings or whatever. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's not how the real world actually works, this whole
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  Speaker 3: good and evil thing. When we were children, we understood
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  Speaker 3: this because we didn't understand it. We sort of, however,
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  Speaker 3: we played with our toys. We sort of looked out
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  Speaker 3: of the real world and thought, yeah, that real world
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  Speaker 3: out there is it doesn't seem to have a good
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  Speaker 3: or a bad. It's just a crazy gush of stimulation
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't make sense. And we were right. That's exactly
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  Speaker 3: what reality is to even the loftiest of philosophers. It is, indeed,
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  Speaker 3: a crazy gush of stimulation that doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 3: Only a woefully misinformed adult could come to the conclusion
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  Speaker 3: that reality is it is like a child's game, where
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  Speaker 3: there is good and evil perfectly delineated somewhere in the
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  Speaker 3: twenty dimensional chess of the human mind. So yeah, practice moderation, folks,
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  Speaker 3: wherever you can. I'll go ahead and say, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think Trump is all perfect. I think he's clearly out
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  Speaker 3: of his depth in some areas, especially recently. But I
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  Speaker 3: still think it's the lesser of two evils. I would
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: rather have a broken clock than a clock that runs backwards. Okay,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: although I haven't done the mathematics on this, but if
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: a broken clock is right twice a day, how many
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: times a day is a clock running backwards right? I
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: suspect it's slightly more than two, but only by you know,
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  Speaker 3: perhaps an irrational sort of decimal.
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  Speaker 2: But there's not the point.
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  Speaker 3: None of this is the point. The point is the
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  Speaker 3: clock that's running backwards is an absolute affront to the
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  Speaker 3: very idea of clocks. It is worse than a broken
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  Speaker 3: clock because it doesn't even settle into an equilibrium. It
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  Speaker 3: branches out into complete chaos. It doesn't just fail to clock.
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  Speaker 3: It unclocks. I am, of course not talking about clocks,
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  Speaker 3: but in a way, I've forgotten what the fuck I
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  Speaker 3: was even talking about. Have I Yes, I have, and
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter, and now I'll stop go on.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's it's it's tough to find a place to
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  Speaker 4: start with this. There there's a bunch of different things
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  Speaker 4: When I first read this that I thought, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 4: I have to talk about this and this and this
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  Speaker 4: and this, and I realized there there's there's two things
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  Speaker 4: that are really of utmost importance in this that that
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: for for the men's rights movement, men's issues discussion, it
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  Speaker 4: really need to be key takeaways because this is this
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  Speaker 4: is happening over and over again, right and obviously if
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking at it from a men's rights perspective. The
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  Speaker 4: first thing is any time uh, the presumed vulnerable in
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  Speaker 4: your I guess, your your circle of sympathy, right, your
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  Speaker 4: political circle, your family circle, your your colleague circle, your
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  Speaker 4: education circle, whatever, the people that you think are what's
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  Speaker 4: right in the world, and not the people that you
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  Speaker 4: think are what's wrong in the world. Anytime the vulnerable
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  Speaker 4: in that group or the perceived vulnerable in that group
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  Speaker 4: are screaming emergency, emergency, emergency, it's it's men who are
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  Speaker 4: expected to step up. It's it's boys who are taught
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  Speaker 4: that as men, when they grow up, they're the ones
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  Speaker 4: who should step up and do something about it. All
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  Speaker 4: capital letters do something about it. Nobody's ever told, necessarily
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  Speaker 4: what it will be and what they should do every
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: single time. You get some messages that are that are
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  Speaker 4: very specific, like women saying teach men not to rape
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  Speaker 4: in all kinds of crap like that that you know,
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  Speaker 4: most men wouldn't rape anyway, So who are you teaching?
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  Speaker 4: The ones that would are are nuts? There's something wrong
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  Speaker 4: with them, and it's not it's not a learned or
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  Speaker 4: unlearned behavior, right.
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  Speaker 3: But.
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  Speaker 4: You still get that message, and you still get that responsibility.
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  Speaker 4: You're supposed to stop the other guy, right, You're supposed
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  Speaker 4: to beat him up. You're supposed to do this. You're
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  Speaker 4: supposed to do that. Go and go and kill the
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  Speaker 4: abused woman's husband while she waits in the truck. That's
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  Speaker 4: the kind of messaging you get. And it doesn't matter
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: whether you're on the left or the right. You get
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: hit with that messaging a lot every single day. Some
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: of it's open, obvious, conscious and you know, completely known
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: to everybody that it's being done. And sometimes it's much
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: more subtle. Sometimes the people who are doing it don't
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: even admit to themselves that they're doing it when they
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: do it. You know, sometimes you're expected to sacrifice in
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: a thousand ways that people don't think of as sacrifice.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Until they have to do it, and as a result,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: when the other thing happens that I'm going to talk about,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the person who ends up taking the fall that is
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: represented by I have to do something about this, and
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I'm the only person who realizes it and and then
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: goes and does something so profoundly stupid. Is what this
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: man did. It's usually a guy. It's usually a guy
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: that does it, Usually somebody who has a very high
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: sense of justice, even if they don't have a very
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: good understanding of what it really means. And they can
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: run the gamut from literally retarded to brilliant and still
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: make the mistake of thinking that they can save the
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: world with one single or one single tirade on one
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: attack one something when they can't. Right. The other thing
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: is that every facet of the political and social spectrum,
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: every group, every demographic, even something is as mundane and
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: harmless as people who crochet, right, or any other type
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: of hobby, people who sit and watch movies on the
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: couch at home.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: There will be people in that demographic who have maybe
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: not out all the marbles that they were born with,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: or maybe they weren't born with a full set, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: within that spectrum of people, there will be people who
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: can be inspired to violent action or other stupid responses
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: by repeated emergency calls, repeated this person is dangerous, this
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: person is evil, This person is going to destroy the world.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: This person is a criminal, this person wants you dead,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: and so on and so. No matter what facet of
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: the social and political spectrum you're in, that type of rhetoric, gee,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: I wish somebody would wouldn't it be nice if this happened?
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: You know, Oh, won't somebody rid me of this? This
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: this pest right, that kind of rhetoric is guaranteed to
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: fall on nutty ears at some point or another and
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: inspire behavior. That's the number of people there are in world.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: The number of people there are just in this country.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: If you live in an urban area, the number of
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: people there are just in your city. There's probably somebody
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: that can be activated like that, right, a sleeper that
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: doesn't have anything to do, and doesn't have to have
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: anything to do with any three letter agencies, any project
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: insert weird name here, none of that. Just they're already
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: a little bit off, and the right kind of rhetoric
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: can convince them to do something stupid. When you combine
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: those two things, the fact that men are constantly bombarded
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: with messages that if if your people need saving, it's
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: up to you, and that there are always people who
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: will respond to that that type of messaging. By doing
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: something stupid, you eventually get somebody that's going to do
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: shit like this. And that is why you don't paint
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: the other guy. You know, even in all of politics,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: like you know, I've talked about Hillary Clinton being a
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: thug in Kamala Harris being stupid, and Joe Biden possibly
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: having been senile. But these are all things that are well,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: they aren't qualifying factors, right, They're things that you would
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: disqualify someone over them. You wouldn't necessarily think they would
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: rise to the emergency level where somebody should try to
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: engage in an assassination or something like that. It would
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: be more vote against this person because they're not qualified
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: to be to hold this job. We shouldn't hire this
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: person to run the country. And that's the way that
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: you talk about it. I think this person's not going
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: to be good on this issue because here's what they've
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: done in the past. You discuss actions, and you discuss
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: reasons to vote, and who to vote for. You talk
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: about getting involved, maybe you should run for office in
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: your local community.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: You talk about getting involved by contacting politicians and telling
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: them what you think of a specific legislation and policies
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: and initiatives, or what policies, initiatives and legislation you would
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: like to see happen. And if enough people do that,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: you get attention to the things that you're trying to
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: get them to do. But when you start suggesting that,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Gosh is here would be nice, if you know, even
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: the guy that joked, the comedian that stood up on
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: stage and said, you know, oh, it's illegal to say
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: and then stated a clear threat to assassinate Bush when
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: he was in office. But so I'm not gonna say that,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: even though he had just said it and everybody was
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: titillated and thought it was funny. That isn't the way
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: to do it. That isn't the way to talk about politics,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: because what ends up happening is that you destroy somebody
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: on your side. You don't necessarily win. Right, how many
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: times have they tried to kill him and he's still standing?
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think we kind of elected the human
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: version of bugs Bunny for president. But either way, everybody
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: that has tried has destroyed themselves and embarrassed their side.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Everybody that has tried to destroy him in other ways
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: as an up more harm to themselves than to Trump. Right,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: he's had, he's had a rough time, but it's blowing
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: back on everybody that came for him. Everybody that was
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: gonna take him down has had blowback. And you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: some people would say it's karma, it's your just deserts,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: and maybe it is, but I think mostly it's that
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: they did something stupid. They opened themselves up for consequences,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: and the consequences have arrived, and they've embarrassed their side
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: of the political fence each each time, I realize that
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: that side of the political fence doesn't understand when they're embarrassed,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: and so they they're unaware of it. But that is
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: that is the case. So I think those were the
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: two most important things for me to talk about. And
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: if I try to talk about the rest of the
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: stuff I thought of in regard to this, we'll be
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: here all night. So I'm going to stop there. The
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: main main point being, you know, don't engage in violent rhetoric,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: criticize policy, and initiatives and ideas and ideals, hone ideas
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: and talk about that, and remember that anytime somebody uses
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: extreme rhetoric that about about killing people and a politician
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: in office being an emergency that that justifies illegal acts
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: and things like that, that it's going to cost at
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: least one man everything that he ever worked for, because
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: at least one man somewhere is going to hear those
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: messages and be convinced that it's his job to be
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: the one doing something stupid this time around.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: All right, I have some things I want to add
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: to this. So Mike Jay wrote the did the write up,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and I was thinking about this. A couple of things
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I want to add. So one is, and I'm this
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: is gonna make me sound like I'm a little sympathetic
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to Cole Allen here, but it's not that. I you know,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I'm glad he wasn't killed, because then we'll just get
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: like a proper, you know, trial and everything. Maybe we'll
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: learn something about what was going on with him, like.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Why he decided to do that.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was all in the m
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: manifesto anyway, But I think it's generally better to do
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: things like through the process than just like.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Gutting the guy down. And I'm I'm impressed with the
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: efficiency that the Secret Service and everybody involved was able
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: to take the threat out and no one was killed.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: So there is that. And what I was thinking about,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: like what going through his mind? Now, obviously you know,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: it seemed like he thought he was like the hero
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: of a story, and and that was like what I
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: got from it. That was a bit of delusion, like
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring my shotgun and several throwing knives. I
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: think they were throwing knives and some other equipment like
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: he was getting like he was picking his load out
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: for like you know, a splinter cell game or something,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and he was gonna go in and do this Like
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: John Wick. He was running and he you know, trying
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: to like basically speed run to the to the president
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and kill.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Him and get out of there.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: And I think what it got me thinking about is
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and again, look, I'm not a psychologist and I'm not
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: pretending that I know that, but I do I think
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: that there are a lot there's something to be said
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: for the fact that men generally are looking for a
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: way to serve like they they're they're looking for their
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: story and a lot of times they have a romanticized
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: idea of what that is.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: And I think that Cole in.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: A way acted out of ego, a sense of like
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the hero and I'm gonna do this
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: heroic thing that everyone has been asking to. Go back
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: to what Hannah and Mike were saying, you know, we
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: were getting this rhetoric pumped out of all of the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: airwaves twenty four to seven, on the internet, on TV,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: every television show, every movie, every everything was like making
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: reference to this guy something somebody needs to do something
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: women on TikTok. I was like, that was what I
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: was talking about with Mike before the show started, and
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Hannah joined the call and she heard me say it
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: was all women. I was making a reference to a
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: video I watched just before the show. Asmen Gold was
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: it was like a clip of him going through a
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: bunch of videos of people on TikTok saying, you know,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: they failed to do it again, Why can't we get
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: a good guy to go do this thing? All the
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: men that were sitting down their suck and nobody in
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the comments, including Asmen Gold himself, recognized that every single
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: one of them was a woman. Every single one of
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: them was like a woman. And what it shows is
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: like the dynamic at play women. And remember this conversation
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I had with Jonathan Pagot, who is like the creative
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: of the Symbolic World, and we would talk about media
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and I asked him what is the female hero's journey?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: And he said, woman asks the question, So like a
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: woman asked the question, and men go on the journey
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: as a result. That's that's not prescriptive. Don't get offended
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: by that. It's just the reality. In most cases, that's
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the way it works. Obviously, outliers exist, whatever. And what
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: was happening there was there were a bunch of women
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: online and they were all crying into their phones and
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: in their cars about how bad the Orange Man is
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: and how somebody needs to do something and their women
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: are losing rights to their bodies and they're going to
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: become slaves. In the Handmaid's Tale future, everything's so dystopian,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and there's there are men, some men that watch that
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and they're like, I could be the guy. I could
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: be the guy that changes that. And I think that
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Cole Allan was one of those men. Potentially he worked
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: with students because he worked in. I don't know if
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: he was a teacher, he might have been an assistant
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: or like a substitute or something. So he did do that,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: and he was kind of in the uh like he
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: was in that space where he was surrounded by women
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: all the time that he worked with, because if you
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: work in academia, you work around a lot of women.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: So I suspect that.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: And this is me being as I wouldn't say charitable,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: but somewhat sympathetic to what potentially motivated him to do this.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: He wanted to be the hero. He wanted to do
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: something that he thought was good. I think it was
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: really poorly motivated. I think it was evil. At the
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: end of the day, it's wrong to want to kill people.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know this. I don't
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: know if I have to say this, but it is
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: nonetheless that's what.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: He thought he was doing.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: He thought he was just like he was going to
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: be the guy that destroys evil, and so I wanted
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: to say that first of all. Another thing is fun
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: fact that you guys might not know, but Cole Allen
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: was an indie video game developer too.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Did you guys know this?
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: He had a game on Steam that they took down
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: called Boredom, not spelled Boredom, it was spelled bohd rrd M,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: which is a quirky, non violent asymmetrical fighting game based
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: on molecular chemistry and atomic physics. So but obviously big
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: brain and it, yeah, sounds like an oxymoron, a nonviolent
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: fighting game. So he and he was developing a top
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: down shooter as well, I think it was called First Law,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: and so like, he was obviously like involved in the
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: gaming space as well, probably somewhat terminally online. And maybe
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: these are the kinds of guys that end up going
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: this way. And this is why I always say, like,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, the problem that we're dealing
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: with is not just women. In fact, I think it's
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: mostly simps, because it's men that enable women to do
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: what they want by allowing them and even like advocating
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: for them and fighting on their behalf, like stepping in
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: and doing crazy stuff like this. And he, I think
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: is a potentially a really good example of that, and
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: not the only one. And so like I want to
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: get to the second thing I wanted to touch on
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: as well, which is that this isn't really about Look,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: this is the at least the third attempt on Trump's live. Okay,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: so let's go through a couple of other examples. All right,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: So we have Cole Allen the latest one. Let's not
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: forget that we had. Let me see, this is Crooks,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Thomas Crooks who shot him at Pennsylvania Butler, Pennsylvania, Thomas Crooks.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Then we have this.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Guy, this should be I'm trying to find Ryan Ruth
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: at the Florida golf course. Was intercepted Bice and he
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: was there with a rifle. He was trying to get in.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: There was and there were others. There was a British
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: men Michael Sandford. I don't have pictures of all these
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: people because some of them there isn't a lot of
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: let's say there wasn't a lot of coverage. But there
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: was a British man named Michael Sandford that tried to
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: grab a police officer's gun to shoot at Trump in
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: June of twenty sixteen.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: At a Las Vegas rally.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: September twenty seventeen, North Dakota man stole a fork lift
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: intending to ram Trump's motorcade. In July of twenty twenty four,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: we have Butler Pennsylvania, Thomas Crooks September fifteenth. We have
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the Florida golf course, Ryan Ruth. That's this guy here.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: And then we have in DC Cole Thomas Allen, the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: guy that we're talking about today, who actually took a
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: train all the way from Los Angeles to DC to
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: do this. Because I don't know if you guys know this,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: but they don't check your bags on trains. I mean
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: they probably do now, but they didn't before. Yeah, before
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that happened. But the thing is, this isn't only about Trump,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: because don't forget that James Hodgkinson opened fire on a
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Republican lawmakers practicing for a charity game, seriously wounding Representative
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Steve Scalise in June of twenty seventeen. And then we
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: have the assassination of Charlie Kirk by Oh, I forget
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: this guy's.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Name too, but he was. Let me just look and
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: see if I have it here.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: We have, yes, Tyler Robinson, that's the guy's name who
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: killed Charlie Kirk. And there's more. There was also there
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: was a guy named Pascal Ferrier sent a rice and
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: laced letter to Trump. She was arrested at the border.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: It was a female. A sief merchant linked to Iran
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: was arrested for trying to recruit assassins to kill Trump.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Another Iran linked plot involving Farad Shaki. They were also charged.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Then you have the murder of Aaron Danielson, who was
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: part of Patriot Prayer and he was shot and killed
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: by Reich Michael Reinol. So we have a space a
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: series of incidents. And the thing I guess I want
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: to I want you guys to understand is, first of all,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: this isn't about Trump. He's just the guy because he's president.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: This is about everyone that they disagree with. And that's
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: why Charlie Kirk is dead. He wasn't running for president.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: He wasn't like he wasn't even getting involved in in
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the sort of like the actual like you know, political process.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: He was an activist, he was an advocate. He was
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: doing debates on campuses. There were and and this is like,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: you know, again, what what what happened with uh Tesla?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: How many arson attacks were doing we're being done on
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: on you know Tesla's and like various Tesla facilities that
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: were why do they do that? Was because they just
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: decided that Elon Musk was no longer trying to save
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the environment or was it because of his links to
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: what they consider to be the Maga right or the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Christian nationalists or whatever the buzzword is of the day.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: And I think that like what people seem to miss
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: is that, for one, this is not about him. This
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: is about everyone that they don't like. And they're getting
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: directions from mostly crying women online and the media. That's
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: where they're getting their more And a lot of these
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: these are almost all men that I mean, some of
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: it's political, like the Iranians are obviously acting on behalf
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: of the government, but like a lot of these like
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: sort of like loan gunmen, these lone actors are thinking
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: that they're gonna be the hero of the story and
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: they're gonna do the thing and they're going there like
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you may not live here, but if you agree with
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the most of the things we talk about on this channel,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: like mostly men's issues, they're your enemy. They hate you,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: they want you dead too. That's what I'm trying to
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: get across here. You can't save yourself by saying, well,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I disagree with Trump and a lot of stuff.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: They don't give a shit.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: They want you dead anyway, Like I mean, why don't
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: you guys gonna understand that? Like that, there is no
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: like drawing a line and saying, well, hey man, look
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't like what he did that day with this thing,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: and like they don't care, dude. They want you dead
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: because they want power. That's all that matters, and they
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: will use anyone they can to get it. And that's
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: like the thing that we have to understand. So that's
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: why I pointed out there were people who did nothing
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: like Charlie Kirk was not violent at all. They murdered him.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: They did it on camera. People celebrated that, mostly women,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: by the way, celebrated that openly. They are multiple attempts,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: and again women mostly online, were upset and they immediately
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: attacked the man, this guy Cole Allen, because he failed.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: So he was useful until he wasn't. And then it
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: was like you're a piece of shit, you know, Like
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: was it like Lee Rarvey Oswald would be would be ashamed,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: He's rolling over in his grave. You're like the worst
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: assassin ever. All of a sudden, none of that matters anymore.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: And I just I guess what, I don't know if
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I got to say everything I wanted to say about this,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: So I'm just going through my notes here, so I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: wanted to point out how many other people are Oh yeah.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And the other thing too, is that all these other guys,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: they got different things that sort of I don't want
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: to say radicalize them, but drove him to this point,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: And I don't The only reason why I don't want
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: to say radicalized is because I'm not sure that they
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: would see it as radicalization when all they think they're
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: doing is saving the world from Voldemort. Right, Like, we
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: still don't know what drove Crooks to this point. I
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: assume that it's probably just some Reddit stuff because he
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: was putting memes on his gun, same thing with this
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: guy who killed Charlie Kirk. But this guy here, he
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: was just like a pro Ukraine activist. He was probably
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: getting his marching orders, as it were, from like CNN
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: and MSNBC. Not not even like a fringe group, not
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: a weird cult. It was just what the news was
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: telling him and how much.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Likely had connections because he was able to get people
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: passports and visas and stuff. He was he was a
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: little bit of a different ballgame than the other guys,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: but he also seemed to have quite a screw loose.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: But probably but we took a little more in depth
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: looked at him. We looked at a few other articles
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: about him and his background, and you know, some some
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: videos that other people had made where they looked more
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: into his background. And this guy actually connections to like
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: he would be considered an asset of of I want
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: to say it was the CIA at one time, so
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: he like he would be an exception to the rule,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: and that the rest of them we're all basically simps. Yeah,
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: this guy was you might call him an uber simp.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Well, there was there's more too. There was also.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: And I gotta bring this up because I remember there
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: were some people even our chat that were sort of
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: like supporting this. When Luigi Mangioni killed that health that
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Healthcare CEO guy, that actually was a big thing that
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: kickstarted this whole thing because all of a sudden, first
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: of all, he killed that was it like United Healthcare ceo, right,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: didn't really do anything to the company, by the way,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: it didn't change anything. If you didn't like the way
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: that was being run. Guess what, Murdering the CEO doesn't
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: actually move the needle on that, because that's not how
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: you do things, especially in a civilized, first world fucking country.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: But not only that, but everyone else saw that because
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: what happened. What how is Luigi painted in the media.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: He is basically made into a hero. How many women
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: were gushing over him for doing that, and he was
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: supposedly like a guy who couldn't get a date before
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: that happened. So he went from being a nobody to
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: being a somebody after he committed this murder, and women
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: were all gushing over it. So it's no wonder that
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: a bunch of men come out of nowhere and they're
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: all like, Oh, this is my this is my ticket,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: this is how I make it, this is how I
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: become a hero. I might do this, and I'm not
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: saying all men are doing it. Obviously, it's a very
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: small percentage. It's you know, it's a fraction within a
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: fraction within a fraction. But it still happened, and that's
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: something that we can't discount as well. So I'm just
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: stacking these things like there were arson attacks, there was
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: a plot against the capitol cabinet, there was an arson
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: in Albuquerque, New Mexico. There was the shooting, the Dallas
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: ice bomb threat. There was an ice shooting, right the
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Dallas ice snipers.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Just mentioned Rolling Stone made the Boston bomber into.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the rolling Yeah, we know about the Boston bomber exactly.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: They do this because I think that they know that
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: there's a relationship between the way that women left wing women,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I guess if I'm being charitable, react to men performing like,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: you know, like acts of terrorism against people those women
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: don't like, or at least have been told not to like,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: because they don't know a lot of these people. They
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: just know that the media says they're bad people. And
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: then other men see that and they're like, oh, I
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: want to I want I want that. I want the
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: love and adoration that that guy's get. I know he's dead,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: but look at how much they love him now, or
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I know he's going to jail forever, you know, whatever
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: it is. So I'm just saying when you look at
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: it in the broad the broader context of the frequency
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and what the motive is behind it is, and that
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: it's not just targeting the president because again I always
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: say this, when Trump is gone, he's only going to
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: be here for three more years. We're gonna have somebody
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: else in the White House, and if it's another Republican,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: guess what, the wheels of propaganda will continue to turn,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter who's up there. What matters is
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: is that who is it that's a threat to the
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: status quo, And that's what the media is gonna target,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: and that's what they're gonna paint that way, and that's
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: what they're gonna try and point everyone at in the
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: hope that one nut job actually tries to act on it,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: you know, And that's what that's what I'm trying to
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: get across here, and that's why you have to condemn
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: all violence at all times, under all conditions. So when
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: the healthcare CEO guy was killed and there were people
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: in the chat going, you know, Luigi Mangioni did nothing wrong,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, dude, that's fucking stupid, because you are
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: basically saying you're setting a precedent. You're saying it's okay sometimes,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: and so it's gonna become okay all the time, and
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: at one point, like you know, one day may come
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: where Trump's not gonna be so lucky.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Then what's gonna happen?
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: So like you know, I'm just saying, like we have
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: to be very careful about that we don't lose our
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: soul in looking at this situation and how we analyze it.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what else to add.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: All I'll say is that you know, it's not just
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: the president of the target, it's you.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: It's you. If you disagree with these people, you are
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: a target.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what part of the world you're in,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: if you're in Europe or the fucking you know, if
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: you're in Northern Land or South America or whatever, it
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you have the wrong opinions, you are
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the target.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, and.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: This does extend into the next story.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, we are getting into that's right, because that's a
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: big That's why I put these two together. Good good
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: catch mine, all right, I got a super child from
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Mary to g We're gonna move on now. She gives
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: us five dollars and says HBr News number five fifty.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to say this about the latest attempted assassin.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: He lived in a condo owned by his parents that
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: was well above his means. He had a career that
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: was well below his level of education. Give and he
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: has a master's from Caltech. I don't think it's really
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: hard to get a master's in anything these days. By
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: the way, his voting history lines up with the manifesto,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: the most charitable view of him was that he was
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: failing to meet his potential. All of this leaves him
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: susceptible to the narrative that he can find glory and
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: value through committing a political assassination.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: This actually fits a pattern. Yeah, that's what I was saying.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: He can be the center of adoration if he just
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: does this one act of evil. It's like the trolley problem.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: If he does this one thing, it's gonna be worth it.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: And like I said, with the healthcare CEO, that didn't
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: change anything. With Charlie Kirk, it didn't change anything. It
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: just took a father away from his children. That's the
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: only thing that it succeeded in doing.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: So.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Anyway, thanks guys for that. Let me know what you
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: guys think about this one in the comments. I know
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: it's a bit of a heavy topic because it's not
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: just some assassination. There's a lot more going on, and
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to bring up the pattern. So
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: we're gonna move on to the second story, and we're
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: gonna talk about the spl C.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: So I just had the website up. So.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: On April twenty first, twenty twenty six, the US Department
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: of Justice announced that a federal grand jury in Montgomery, Alabama,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: had indicted the Southern Poverty Law the Southern Poverty Law
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Center on eleven counts, including six counts of wirefraud, four
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: counts of false statements to a bank, and one count
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: of conspiracy to commit money laundering. Prosecutors alleged that between
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen and twenty twenty three, the organization used over
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: three million dollars to end donor funds to pay individuals
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: affiliated with extremist groups such as the Ku Klux Klan,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Aaryan Nations, and the National Socialist Party of America. I
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: didn't even know we had those. I thought that was
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: just like a Blues Brothers Brother's reference. The core claim
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: is that the SBOC told donor their contributions would be
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: used to fight and dismantle hate groups, while instead directing
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: money to people inside those same organizations. The SPLC has
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: strongly denied the charges, describing the indictment as politically motivated
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: and an attempt to weaponize the Justice Department against the
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: civil rights organization. The group maintains that paying informants to
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: gather intelligence from within extremist movements is a legitimate and
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: long standing practice used by both journalists and law enforcement.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Some donors have come forward stating they were aware that
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: funds were being used for informants and had no objection
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: to that method. Legal observers have noted potential technical weaknesses
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: in the indictment, particularly whether prosecutors adequately demonstrated material false
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: statements to donors and properly pleaded the required elements for
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: bank fraud and money laundering. Several civil rights organizations have
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: publicly condemned the charges and expressed support for the SPLC.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: As of April twenty eighth, the case remains in its
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: very early stages with no major ne new court developments.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Because we just learned this and it's going to be
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: a while before we get any results, so I think
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: it's important to keep that in mind and maintain perspective.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: The SBLC is expected to file motions challenging the indictment,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: and both sides will likely continue to dispute the facts
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: surrounding the informant payments. This is only the beginning of
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: what will likely be a lengthy legal process.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, can we remind ourselves that all of
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: us whom the l s PLC has slandered over the years,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: for all their efforts in demonizing us, the only thing
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: of which they have ever been able to accuse us
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: of is talking, communicating, expressing ourselves as freely as we
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: can for free. In the case of men's right advocates,
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: it's communicating ideas that might be critical of feminism. In
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: the case of ex Muslim activists, it's communicating ideas that
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: might be critical of Islam. Well, you know, anyone who's
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: ever said the word do in a tonal voice that
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: could be perceived as hateful, that sort of thing. Well,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: if that is the crime. If expressing ideas and or
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: biases is the crime, then the SBSC has been guilty
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: of that crime since its inception. To put it as
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: charitably as possible, they express ideas and or biases in
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: their own little way. In my opinion, all of their
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: ideas are biases. That is all. That is all they do.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Is the I've been chanting over the last decade or
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: a decade or so, because as far as I can ascertain,
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: that was all the sbl so did they spread what
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: they themselves would technically define as hate. But it turns
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: out that's not all they were doing. They were funding
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: their opposition, controlling their opposition. We we we we sometimes
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: use the term controlled opposition in a broader sense, like
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: an opposition succumbing to the share gravity, like Fox News
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: or Reform UK like. Normally, we don't mean it in
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: a conspiratorial sense. It's like we're just tracking the location
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: of the Overton window, if you will. But have we,
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: as we have learned from the US at the antics
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: of the SBLC. Yeah, no, controlled opposition. It's very often
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: exactly that. It's exactly as conspiratorial as it sounds. Extreme
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: leftist NGOs are paying and being paid by random knuckleheads
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: to pretend to be extreme rightists so that those extreme
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: leftists NGOs can convince their retarded donors to keep donating. Okay,
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: I mean that's you know, that's nice. That doesn't surprise
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: me at all. Thank you for finally arresting them or
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: whatever it is you're doing. Thank you for dragging them
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: through the court of well, the court, the actual court.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: But speaking from back here in the court of public opinion,
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: where we have always known that the SBLC is nothing
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: but a leftist hypocrisy machine, pitchfork mobbing any imaginary expression
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: of xenophobia while casting a blind three blind eyes across
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: any explicit semblance of eukophobia.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I'm just.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: I don't often ask for an apology, and I'm not
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: asking for one now. I'm just saying all the fucking
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: feminists over the last dozen years who were all like
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: feminism is just about a quality because the dictionary says so.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: And men's rights is a hate group because the SBLC
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: didn't say so, but maybe kind of did. They're They're
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: not quite sure, and I'm not quite sure. But whenever
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: it is shout, men's rights is hate group because SBLC
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: is something. Something's really I just want you all to
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: know that the apology you owe me will be paid
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: in bragging rights. It can only be paid in bragging
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: rights with fucking dividends or whatever. I was. I was
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: always right, we were always right. You were always wrong.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: And this goes back a dozen years and the and
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: the only thing that this, this, this, this this sudden
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: thing changes is the magnitude of just how fucking wrong
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: you were and still are probably so yeah, yeah, it
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: sucks to be you. Maybe you should eat my ass,
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: fucking all of you. And this goes back a long way.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: I have met many asses to eat, or many asses
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: who should eat me. I have forgotten. This is none
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: of this is a put someone else talk all right?
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: Uh well, obviously the first thing that that comes to
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: mind is is a question. Because there's there are paid informants,
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: and there are paid informants. You can label somebody anything
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: when you give them money, right you can. If you
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: don't have any kind of documentation of what you're paying for,
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: you can. You can pay somebody for consulting for for
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: years every Friday night and actually just be going someplace
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: and getting a blowjob.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: But paid informants put into various groups that the SPLC
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: had a financial interest in demonizing could just as well
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: be paid saboteurs until they produced some proof that they
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: didn't pay people to go into these groups and do
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: what the FBI was doing in these groups, which was
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: sending people in under the guise of being informants, and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: then those people would initiate orchestrate, organize, and administrate wrongdoing
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: that would then get the people that were in on
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: it with them arrested, right up to and including crimes
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: like kidnapping or at least the attempt to kidnap, plans
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: to kidnap, plans on bombing places and things like that
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: get traced back to these FBI informants who were supposedly
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: just there to find out what the people there were doing.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: And the group was entirely peaceful until the FBI agents
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: showed up and said, Hey, why don't we do this
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: bombing And here's how we're going to do it, and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: here's where we can get the supplies, and here's how
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: it's going to work. And oh, by the way, you're
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: all under arrest for going along with this, which is
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: basically entrapment. When an organization like the SPLC does it,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: they they aren't going to be guilty of entrapment. They're
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: going to be guilty of fraud. It's not going to
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: be something that they can be pro secuted for, because
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: that kind of fraud you don't prosecute for. It's a
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: it's a defamation or slander or libel, depending on how
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: it's done. And already there has been at least one
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: lawsuit against them for that, because their defamation resulted in violence.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: Just like I've said before, anytime you defame somebody as
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: being a dangerous threat when they're not, then you you
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: create a risk that somebody is going to become a
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: dangerous threat to that person for real, and it is
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: your fault if they do in response to what you said.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: So it'll be interesting to see how this pans out.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: This idea that, oh, we were paying people to give
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: us information so we would know what to put up
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: on our website, and it has nothing to do with
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: the millions billions of dollars that we make from defaming
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: various groups as as dangerous extremists. I don't think that.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: I don't think that it's going to go the way
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: that the SPLC thinks it's going to go.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: I think that there's going to be more information come out,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: There's going to be more more more to the story,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: because we've seen them lie about groups and lie about
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: individuals within those groups, and try to get people riled
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: up against individuals and groups, and then you know, later
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: on something ends up happening with that group, either somebody
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: engages in violenced against that group, or somebody within that
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: group goes off the deep end, and it seems to
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: be after the SPLC started tracking or getting involved with
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: that group. I don't think that's a coincidence.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Well, let mean, let me bring some more light to this.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: So, yes, the SBOC has if you look at their
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: hate maps or what they consider to be hate groups,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: they did remove a voice for men, but I think
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: they put it back on. And Paul Elam, you know,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: he's starting a new podcast very soon called Repairing the Manisphere.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: His first episode, he's definitely gonna give a segment to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: the SPLC because he told me that there's too much
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: chardenfreud of that he can't he can't help himself but
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: to say something about it.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: But they are they.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Don't target, they target, They don't target anything or what
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: they Okay, let me let me rephrase this. What they
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: choose to target is very specific, and what they choose
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: not to target is also by design. Right, So Antifa
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't get on the list, right, the Weather Underground, it
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't like when they existed, they didn't get on the list.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: The SPOC is kind of old, so it's probably around
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: back then as well. You know, the Black Liberation Army
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: none the list, Black lives Matter not on the list, right,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Those things don't count. Those are not groups that need
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: to be watched. Catholics are on the list, just Catholics.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: They call it radical Catholicism or something, but there is
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: no such thing as radical Catholicism.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: There's just Catholics. And I guess there are people who
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: are more devout than others.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Right, So it's obvious that they're they're approaching this with
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: a leftist viewpoint right off the bat. They were always
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: a leftist organization, very pro feminists. I just showed you
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: guys the website. Look look at their talking points. Strengthening
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: democracy and voting rights, demand dismantling white supremacy, ending unjust imprisonment,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: eliminating poverty and economic inequality. That's communism. And I'm sure
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: that there's stuff in there about, you know, climate justice
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: and all the buzz all the buzzwords as far as.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, when they say ending in unjust imprisonment, they
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: probably don't mean men who had been falsely accused of no,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: no inmate partner in sexual violence. They probably mean people
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: who protested and protests where the individuals involved burned down
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: whole cities.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, for sure, they want they want what they
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: would call it criminal justice reform or something like that,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: but they want soft on crime policies that have basically
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: like created situations like Arina z Orutska who got stabbed
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: to death on a train. So they want that because
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: they think that just you know, having the law exist
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: is racist.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: That's what this is about for them.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, But like what was it that they're what they're
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: actually indicted for. So One, they paid high level leaders
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: of these groups, not just low level sources for informants.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: So they weren't just giving money to like, you know,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: just like klansmen b and say go in there, and.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I was talking, they were giving.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Money to people in the highest levels because they're ghost hunters.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, people that were making policies in those groups, the people, yeah.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: People who were setting the terms and like organizing. Yeah.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: And and if those are their informants and they're the.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Leaders, but they're not informants, they're just working for them.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: Like I said, if those were their informants and they're
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: the leader of the groups, they're just like the FBI
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: informants that are that are the planners of the kidnappings
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: and shit like that.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but but but no, But what they're.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Doing is they're savturs.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: They're creating the ghosts so that they can continue to
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: hunt ghosts, like they're paid to hunt ghosts. And if
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: you're paid to hunt ghosts, you will always find ghosts.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So, like, have you ever met
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: a klansman I live in Virginia.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: I have not.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: You know why because there's almost none of them. They
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: almost don't exist.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, but here's what I What I'm saying is that
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: you and I are talking about the same thing. You're
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: just calling it something different.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well my point is they are getting they're getting money.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, feminists, they'll put it in another way. Okay,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: So you guys get what I'm saying. Feminists make money
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: from uh the government grants, they get tenure, they get
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: you know, book deals, they get media appearances, they get
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: to speak in front of crowds at colleges, at conventions,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: at signings, whatever it is. They get paid lots of money.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: We talked about I think we talked about Lori Penny
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: not even that long ago. I don't know if it
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: was on the news show or somewhere else. She asked
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: for like thousands of dollars to make appearances. The only
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: reason why feminists get paid that much is because ultimately
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: their job is to find and point out misogyny and
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: discrimination against women, and feminists always find it. They always
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: do because it's it's their paycheck, like they have to.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: That means that they can find all number, all kinds
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: of ways to like find misogyny wherever it is, even
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: though it's basically non existent, because they get money for it.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: If you incentivize people to be deceitful and lie and manipulative,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: but you pay them, they will be those things. And
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: the SPLC is basically getting infinite money from you know,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: governments and nonpropit if it's in donors and whatnot, and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: then they give that money to clansmen and neo Nazis
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: so that those people can do neo Nazi clans things,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: so that the SPOC can say, look, see that's really happening,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: give us more money, and the cycle continues.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: That's the point. I mean, like what happened in Charlottesville
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: was basically a fluke scam.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: What it's very much like the feminist domestic violence scam. Yeah,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: fastly feminist organizations, feminist educators. Every aspect of the creation
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: of policy and propaganda regarding domestic violence is dedicated to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: the least effective model for ending or stopping domestic violence,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: ending the cycle, healing the families that are caught in
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: it now, stopping the behavior within those families, and helping
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: the people involved to not be that way. It's it's
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: geared toward the opposite of doing all the important things
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: that you need to do in order to cure this
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: social ill. Right, because if they cure that social ill,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: they won't be able to make money off of it. Then, right,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: they promote all these things they can make money off
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: of running that don't work. And it is the same
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: thing with this. They they are putting their money into
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: making sure that there will always be these groups for them.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: Everybody that might think a little bit that way gets
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: sabotaged in how they proceed, how they progress in their
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: thought processes by the leadership of these groups. They get
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: attracted to these groups and then they get treated. They
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: get treated to whatever the saboteur can serve, serve up.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: It will make them into what the SPLC wants to hunt.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm also and the other thing is. This
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: is also a good thing too. To note is that
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: when these high level members were approached and give them
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: money by the SPLC, they likely did not appear and
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: with a card that says I am with the SPLC,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: they probably told them something else. Because the other indictments
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: are let's see, some informants were or some people that
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: they're calling informants, we don't know that they were, were
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: allegedly directed to make racist posts and help organize events
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: like Unite the Right. They used shell companies and fake
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: business names like Fox Photography and Rare Books Warehouse to
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: hide where the money was really going aka money laundering.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Over three million dollars went to people deeply embedded in
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: groups like the KKK, the National Alliance, and Area Nations
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: affiliated biker clubs.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: So they know that anytime you have legitimate business and
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: you want to do something very important in the world
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: that people are going to be happy about, you always
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: want to make sure that you hide it by obscuring
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: your paper trail with shell companies and shit so that
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: you can't take credit later on.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So you know, there's that's where these accusations coming.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Now this, yes, probably won't result in arrest, but I
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: don't think it needs to. All we need to do
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: is expose them for what they are and then maybe
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: people won't be as inclined to donate.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Now, I do think.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: That there is there are people that are so far
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: gone that they don't care, and for them that the
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: ends justify the means. So I don't think the SPOC
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: is just going to disappear overnight, but I do want
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: to see it get exposed anyway, because it is what
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: the media and a lot of feminists and people who
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: oppose us essentially invoke. They use it as their primary source. Like,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: oh man, I remember when we would try to do
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: I you would get feminist activists like takedown MRAs constantly
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: telling people that we're on the SPLC hate list, and
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: this at least discredits that, so they can't really I mean,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: they'll use it anyway, but we can at least say, look,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: you know those people have been discredited.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: I want to see this happen to the a C,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: l U and the ad L that that would be
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: great to see as well.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: But here's the thing about the SPLC. Don't don't think
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: they'll disappear because they're They're not going to get donations anymore.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: Their their donor base isn't little old Grandma's sitting in
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: their their home, you know, with with their cat going Oh,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: these people.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Are doing No, they're not getting broomer money.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: They're not getting they're not getting grainy money. They're getting
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: money from wealthy donors who want to be able to use.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: The SPLC said, these are the bad guys, so you
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: shouldn't listen to them to silence criticism of policy and
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: initiative that they support that take power and ability, you know,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: economic mobility away from the little guy, and that is
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: essentially It's interesting, like we keep saying SPLC, they are
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: the Southern Poverty Law Center. That is their name, right,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: and Southern poverty is one of the things that they
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: have worked very hard to preserve. So it's it's quite
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: appropriate that they should be called that the Southern Poverty
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Law Center. And probably a lot of people think that
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: that's because they claim to fight for the little guy, right,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: They're there to fight for the little guy, keep the
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: little guy from being taken down by these extremist groups
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: and blah blah blah. But the reality is they exist
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: so that oligarchs can point and shoot the SPLC at
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: groups like us, so that our criticisms of laws that
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: keep people poor and keep people down will not be heard.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: People will be too busy going Yeah it's Bill said,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: these guys are extremists.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Uh yeah.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: As a hell of a good time for so many
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: YouTube channels to be complaining right now about have they
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: been suddenly demonetized because the AI has has has called
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: them AI this this old matter of layers of eyes.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: Yes, well the thing the s p l C is
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: not gonna be that, it's going to be that. Uh,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: they are no longer useful as a gun. Yes, people
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: don't put any stock in the s p l C
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: said these are the bad guys, right then there won't
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: be reason for the oligarchs to keep funding it.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Okay, So I will just last thing on this.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I think that one of the reasons why the SPLC
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: is so it goes it's Southern Poverty Law Center. It's
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: not just because it was started in the South. I
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: think that the South. If you've ever been to the
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: South in America, it's pretty it's it's a bulwark against
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: this stuff. Like it's like the people down in the
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: South are very resilient and hardy, and they don't put
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: up with this. It's not like the coasts, you know.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: So I wonder if that's not also true, like Appalachian
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: people are tough people, and they and the SPLC has
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: to weaken them. I mean, people in West Virginia living
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: in the hollers that have no jobs are still like
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: somehow enduring like they I mean, they have it really
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: hard there, but they're enduring. So I wonder if it's
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: because that's why they always target the South pole.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: There are certain parts of America that you can go
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: to to learn that you don't have fuck you money, Yes,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: you have a fuck you attitude.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the South and the Midwest, that's what I think anyway. Yep,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: the south of the Midwest, the flyover country as postal
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: elites like to call it, you know. But anyway, we
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: got to move on to the next story. I think
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: I said everything I wanted to say about that. I
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: did get a super chowd So Richard Bierre sent us
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: five dollars and says, waiting for the other shoe to drop,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: revealing the groups being paid are all federal informants, similar
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: to how the plot against Gretchen Whitmer was mostly government
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: agents who were actually increasing the.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Severity of the plan.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: It's possible, but I mean, it doesn't always have to
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: be government people. It could just be communist activists that
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: are just like you know, like I don't think Antifa
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: is the is the CIA. I think it's just Antifa.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: So but it's possible. It's possible, all right, last story,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: let's get into it. Uh Okay, I don't have a
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: picture for this, but there's a little one.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: A forty one year old citizen woman was arrested at
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: the de Consini Port of Entry in Nogales, Arizona, while
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: trying to cross into Mexico with three children. During a
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: secondary inspection, officers discovered a hidden compartment in her vehicle
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: containing a large stash of weapons, including a rocket propelled
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: grenade launcher tube, multiple rifles, including AK style rifles and
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: AK pistol, dozens of rifle magazines, stocks, and pistol grips.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: The weapons and vehicle were seized. She was taken into
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: custody and charged with smuggling goods from the United States.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: The three children were released to a family member, so
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: they were not even her kids or at least, no
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: I think they were, but they I don't know. Anyway,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Hannah put this one in, so I thought I would
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: let you have the first say on that one.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: Like we've put up women behind being badly stories before,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: but this one, this one just blew my mind. And
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: I really couldn't find a whole lot about it when
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: I initially put it up because it was kind of
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: a new story, and I still haven't been able to
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: see much about it. But there there's not a whole
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: lot like a broad spectrum, you know, fun intended. I
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: guess of reasons why you would be taking a rocket
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: propelled grenade launcher to Mexico RPG.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: I know, yeah, this is the weapons.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: We're going on vacation. Don't forget the.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Great Ape rocket lo.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: You know, gotta take that. You gotta take that, very
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: important to take the the the ak K forty seven's
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: gotta take the pistols. Uh, don't forget all the AMMO kids.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: Come on, yeah, you don't forget to bring your darringer.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: Uh No, she was quite obviously involved. We talk a
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: lot about the immigration issues and and uh, you know,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: Trump talking about bad ombres and there are plenty of
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: bad ombres. But uh, there there's also bad women.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: That of the kissing and kissing.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: That reminds me of the cursing children ads that they
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: were putting out. Do you remember that, the foul mouth
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: children or whatever. Princess.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they care so much about children that they they
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: not that that language is necessarily going to harm the kids.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: But people do try to keep kids innocent for as
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: long as as I can.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for diverging.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: It's but the thing is, like, when we talk about this,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: I know people are usually picturing men with tattoo all
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: over their faces and their head shaved and tattooed and everything,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: and you know, like I had, I had a neighbor
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: that was one of those men. So I do understand that.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: But the reality of of all of this shit is
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: that women are not just involved, but they're heavily involved.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: They're central to it. They are doing harm. They are
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: involved in things like selling or transporting weapons to cartels.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: There has been there have been female cartel leaders. Like
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: they're heavily involved, and they're not. Their actions are not coerced.
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  Speaker 4: This is not something a man made her do. This
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  Speaker 4: is probably something she was getting shit tons of money
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  Speaker 4: for doing or shit tons of power someplace for doing it,
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  Speaker 4: and and that's those are the Those are the lures, right,
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  Speaker 4: not some guy is going to beat you up if
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  Speaker 4: you don't do this, and this is it's that way.
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  Speaker 4: When I initially saw this, I thought, Oh, it's a
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  Speaker 4: it's a child trafficking thing, you know, maybe they've caught
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  Speaker 4: one of the traffickers. And I start reading it and
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  Speaker 4: then if it's a woman, and I, oh, we've got
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  Speaker 4: a woman child trafficking story again, because we we've actually
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  Speaker 4: put up several of those. But it's not it's it's
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  Speaker 4: weapons this time. She just happened to have her kids
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  Speaker 4: with her.
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  Speaker 2: And potes. I usually think of men, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it is just man.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, people are more likely to trust a woman
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  Speaker 4: in those circumstances, unless you know a woman who you
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  Speaker 4: know can then sell them on trusting the guy, like, oh, yes,
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  Speaker 4: I trust him, so you should too, right, Because if
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  Speaker 4: it's just a guy, he might be dangerous to the
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  Speaker 4: kids in their minds, but if it's a woman, she
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  Speaker 4: won't be in their minds. And that that mistake that
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  Speaker 4: they make is what it costs them their the safety
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  Speaker 4: of their children, their children end up cleaning toilets in
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  Speaker 4: some rich person's house or worse, much worse, and that
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  Speaker 4: that has been going on for quite some time as well,
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  Speaker 4: and it is a lot of women are involved in that. Right,
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  Speaker 4: So when we do talk about these issues, these immigration issues,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: we're not just talking about men and we're talking about women.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking about the harm that's being done to children
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  Speaker 4: by US citizens who are buying children from these coyotes
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  Speaker 4: who have kidnapped them from parents in South America. And
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  Speaker 4: not just immigrants. We're not just talking about immigrants either,
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  Speaker 4: because those children aren't immigrants. They are victims. They are
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  Speaker 4: kidnapp upping victims. And in this situation, this woman was
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  Speaker 4: not just going on vacation with a rocket propelled grenade launcher, right,
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  Speaker 4: She was taking weapons to a cartel. She was selling
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  Speaker 4: very deadly weapons to to somebody who was who had
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: very ill intentions for somebody else. Right, that is that
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: is the norm there. Like, it's not just it's not
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  Speaker 4: just uh, some little group out in the desert. Its
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: whole communities. It's it's entire families. It's men, women and
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: even kids. And in communities where you know this this
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: is nearby and the people in the community have to
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  Speaker 4: deal with this on a regular basis. They're having to
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: arm their kids, their sons, like as young as five
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: years old, to protect their households because of men and
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  Speaker 4: women like this.
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  Speaker 3: This all relates so horribly to the red button and
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: the blue button. You'll will have seen this right on Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: The red button and the blue button. It's a bit
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  Speaker 3: like the red bill and the blue pill. You'll will
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  Speaker 3: have seen it right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw it. I'm not on x right now,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: but I saw the It's.
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  Speaker 3: This anlemit where everyone gets to privately, bless press a
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: red button or a blue button, and if more than
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: fifty people press the blue button, everyone survives, but one
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  Speaker 3: is free to press the red button, and if more
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: than fifty people press the red button, then only the
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: red button people survive. And this has taken the Internet
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: by storm. It's a bit like the trolley problem, and
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: it has divided people into what's been called altruism and
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: selfish ism. But I think I think the reason it's
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: got everyone so involved is because it does divide people
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  Speaker 3: between the masculine and the feminine. The feminine wants to
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  Speaker 3: press the blue button and be altruistic, like, if everyone
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: just presses the blue button, then no one's gonna die. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: you've got a lot of us out here in the
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: manosphere pressing the red button, being all like, no one
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: dies if everyone presses the red button. So what if
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: everyone pressed the red button the button when no one dies. Surely,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: if everyone presses the red button and no one dies,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: then that's for the greater good. Meanwhile, the blue button
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  Speaker 3: presses are going no, no, The only way to assure
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: that everyone survives is if everyone presses the blue button
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: and no one's quite sure. This is why this is
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: such an interesting psychological experiment, because because we are sort
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: of driven apart in these two different sets of ethics.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the worst part of it was the guy posted that,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: and a lot of the memes and discussion that started
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: taking place around it took place for the first during
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: the first twenty four hours, so it's already all out
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: there where everybody that saw it. You know, you see
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: you see vote and you you know, like, voters are adults, right,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: Voters are people that have the the qualifying characteristics of
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: a voter, which is a year of age. And in
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: most places that's it. Now in some places. There are
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: other things that you know are are important as well.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: But as soon as people started discussing it in terms
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: of personal agency, all the voters having personal agency, of
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: the voters having personal agency, right, and and what kind
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: of person would put themselves in a dangerous situation and
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: then hold other people responsible for not putting themselves in
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: equal danger to rescue her or him. As soon as
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: that discussion started happening, to stifle it, he came back
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: and said, no, this includes children. Your baby will be pressed,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: will be placed in a booth. You can't communicate, you
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 4: can't control what the kid presses, and it's completely just
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: a random thing whether they're going to press red or blue,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: and you don't know now what button do you press,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: So it became a completely unrealistic scenario and a Sophie's choice. Right,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: You're either you're either deciding to risk that fifty percent
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: of people will push the blue button so that you
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: can save your child if your child happens to push
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: the blue button, or risk that you'll survive your child
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: because you pushed the red button and condemned your child
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: to death. You know, by not being part of the
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: fifty percent that was needed, and it ceases to be
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: an intellectual exercise when someone does that, that is, holding
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: people's concern for children, people's care for children hostage in
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: order to stop them from engaging in problem solving discussion
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: and discussion of the morality of certain concepts. And it
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: then becomes, you know, completely non Nothing like that happens
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: in the real world. There is no real world example
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: of a conundrum like that, not even the threat of
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: nuclear war, because in the threat of nuclear war, the
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: buttons were the politicians we were elected electing, And because
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: politicians lie about what they believe and what they're going
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: to do, you had the colorless button and the other
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: colorless button, and you didn't know which one was going
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: to cause the nukes to fall when you were pressing right,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: so you had to engage in guesswork. This button says this,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: This button says that none of them actually could be
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: telling the truth, all of them actually could be lying.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: So there was no real world equivalent to this, and
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: it became a way to condemn the masculine logic of
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: don't do stupid things and then demand that other people
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: do something stupid with you in order to protect you
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: from the consequences of your own stupid choices. So I
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: I completely lost respect for the guy when when he
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: did that, when I found out about that, right.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: And.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: I kind of I'm gonna lose respect for anybody that
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: tells me it's an intellectual exercise after he changed that detail,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: because it's not. Once you hold children hostage like that
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: and make it about that randomness in a situation that
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: no real life situation is like that, you're just engaging
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: in promoting dark thoughts for the sake of promoting dark
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: thoughts and making people unhappy, creating misery, spreading fear and trauma,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: and dividing people. And so I really I had a
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: big discussion. Actually stayed up too late last night, got
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: four hours of sleep because I was discussing that stupid
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: change with somebody. And the guy was one hundred percent
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: certain that everybody should have read the originals as a
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: statement that infants would be making doing these this voting,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: and that there would be no communication and you couldn't
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: do anything about what was happening to your child, and
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: there isn't any reason why everybody should have read it
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: that way. So and in fact, I think if you
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: did read it that way, it says something about you,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: you know, if you read it that way before hearing
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: about two different ways to read it. So yeah, it's
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: it's definitely a it's going to be a long discussion.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: It's probably going to be like this stupid red dress,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: white dress, the bar meme and all of that, and
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: people are just not going to be rational about it
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: because that guy inserted the oh yes, your children will
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: be forced to do this without any understanding of what
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: it is or what's going to happen if they make
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: the wrong choice.
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