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Spill The Matcha · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Molly May
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Speaker 1: stars in Vogue as her ex Tommy Fury faces fresh
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Speaker 1: cheating allegations, Katya Milan and Ashton Wood's friendship bust up
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Speaker 1: and Anna McAvoy's interestingly timed baby news. First, former Love
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Speaker 1: Islander Taylor Broad has sparked a bait after revealing she
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Speaker 1: won't allow her daughter to help decorate their family Christmas tree.
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Speaker 1: Taylor shared a video to TikTok discussing her plans and
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Speaker 1: added the caption, only real Christmas girlies will understand this.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to what she said.
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Speaker 2: There's mums out there that.
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Speaker 2: Film with their children the christmas tree setup and i
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Speaker 2: really admire them because there's no fucking way my child's
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Speaker 2: touching my christmas tree she's asleep and i've set it
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Speaker 2: up exactly how i want it and she will not
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Speaker 2: she will not be helping until she's at the age
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Speaker 2: where she knows the placement because until then no don't touch.
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Speaker 1: My christmas tree This video has racked up over 700,000
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Speaker 1: views and has gained over 1,500 comments. It has clearly
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Speaker 1: hit a nerve with some people. Yeah, a large portion
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Speaker 1: of the commenters argued that Christmas is about spending time
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Speaker 1: with family and making memories. Some even went as far
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Speaker 1: as labeling Taylor a joy stealer. What do you think? Well,
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Speaker 1: I can see where Taylor's coming from because everybody loves
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Speaker 1: a beautiful aesthetic tree. However, I tend to agree with
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Speaker 1: the people who said that part of the joy of
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Speaker 1: Christmas is actually spending time with your family and doing
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Speaker 1: those types of Christmas activities. I don't understand why she
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Speaker 1: doesn't just redecorate the tree like most parents do when
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Speaker 1: their kids go to bed. Yeah, or do what Monica
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Speaker 1: and friends did and let all their friends decorate it
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Speaker 1: and then turn it around and have it perfect on
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Speaker 1: the other side. It's going to be an interesting one
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Speaker 1: because I like my tree decorated a specific way. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I've been known to have you and Soph and mum
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Speaker 1: over and then actually redecorate it after because I'm not
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Speaker 1: happy with some of the placement of the baubles. Like
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Speaker 1: I'll decorate my tree quite a few times to get
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Speaker 1: it perfect. But then again, like when we were a
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Speaker 1: family growing up, we didn't have an aesthetically pleasing tree.
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Speaker 1: We had rainbow decorations and really sentimental ones. And that's
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Speaker 1: what I remember and love. Like I enjoy putting mum
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Speaker 1: and dad's tree up now. Well, I've seen that big
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Speaker 1: debate on TikTok that people are saying that a lot
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Speaker 1: of their husbands are colorful light people, whereas they're the
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Speaker 1: aesthetic gold. I mean, we grew up as a colorful
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Speaker 1: light family, but I have moved on to gold now.
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Speaker 1: I actually like the idea of having multiple trees. I
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Speaker 1: saw this as a tip in this mom's Facebook group
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Speaker 1: that I'm in, and they were saying, get a tree
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Speaker 1: for your kids and have it in their room and
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Speaker 1: they can decorate that tree however they like. And then
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Speaker 1: you can have your nice aesthetically pleasing tree. But I think,
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Speaker 1: you know, have a rainbow tree, have a gold tree,
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Speaker 1: have different trees. Remember that year when we were all
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Speaker 1: living together? I think it was the last year, our
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Speaker 1: last Christmas all together. We actually bought two real Christmas
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Speaker 1: trees and one had gold and one had rainbow. It
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Speaker 1: was the best. It was so good except when we
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Speaker 1: had to remove and get rid of the trees. That's
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Speaker 1: when it seemed like not a great idea. Look, I
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Speaker 1: actually think that people need to do away with the
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Speaker 1: oh so aesthetic tree. Like, you know, the trees look
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Speaker 1: like there's no fun. They look a bit boring. I
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Speaker 1: know everybody seems to have them and all the baubles
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Speaker 1: are white. I think they're a bit 2020. Like let's
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Speaker 1: put some color into our trees again. I'm doing red
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Speaker 1: and gold this year. I love a traditional looking Christmas tree,
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Speaker 1: but I want some of my antique decorations on it.
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Speaker 1: I do like that the beige Christmas aesthetic is now
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Speaker 1: being replaced by the burgundy Christmas aesthetic this year. So
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are now putting the burgundy little
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Speaker 1: ribbons on their tree. I'm tempted to try out the ribbons,
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Speaker 1: but I don't know where to get them from because
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Speaker 1: I want that velvety one, but they're really expensive. I've
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Speaker 1: seen them on Timu, but apparently everyone's getting their credit
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Speaker 1: cards hacked from Timu. Well, I think just bring back tinsel.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: I want to see some beautiful gold tinsel in some
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Speaker 1: Christmas trees. You can put it on your Christmas tree,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, tinsel, as George Costanza's dad said, I find
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Speaker 1: it distracting. It's not good and it's hard to hang properly.
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Speaker 1: I did love one of the comments on Taylor's TikTok because-
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Speaker 1: A lot of people were seeing the funny side of
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Speaker 1: it because I do think Taylor was taking the piss
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Speaker 1: in general. Yeah. And someone wrote, my 30-year-old fiance still
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Speaker 1: isn't old enough to set up the Christmas tree, which
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Speaker 1: received over 3,000 likes. I don't have the issue with
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Speaker 1: Dale trying to help me with the Christmas tree. He
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Speaker 1: hates putting it up and I know your partner's not
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Speaker 1: fond of it. Oh, Rhys has no interest. I keep
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Speaker 1: telling him that it needs to go up. And unfortunately
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Speaker 1: for him, I've decided that we need to rearrange the
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Speaker 1: furniture in our lounge room because I've recently got a
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Speaker 1: playpen for Jack and it's just not going to work
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Speaker 1: where the Christmas tree used to be. So it's going
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Speaker 1: to be quite a large job. Gosh, so you need
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Speaker 1: him to help you really. I mean, I could come
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Speaker 1: around and help move some furniture. Yeah, well, he's actually
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Speaker 1: working late on Tuesday night if you want to come over.
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Speaker 1: He comes back in the room. I've seen that as
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Speaker 1: well on TikTok where some people's partners will go out
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Speaker 1: and they'll return and the girlfriend or wife has just
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Speaker 1: completely Christmified the house. Yeah. You guys know everything about
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Speaker 1: our lives, which is really fucking scary. I'm like, why
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Speaker 1: have I said all that stuff? Katia Milan and Ashton
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Speaker 1: Wood have shocked followers by closing down their newly launched
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Speaker 1: March of Business. Amy, what is going on? Well, there
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Speaker 1: is so much confusion right now about the cause of
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Speaker 1: this business closure, but there are a lot of clues
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Speaker 1: pointing towards a friendship breakdown between the pair. And I
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Speaker 1: think it's important we go through the timeline of events
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Speaker 1: to try and get to the bottom of what exactly
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Speaker 1: has gone down. So on the 15th of May, Katia
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Speaker 1: and Ashton announced they were finishing up their podcast, Common Chaos.
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Speaker 1: to begin a, I quote, new project. Now we did
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Speaker 1: speak about this in length back in May and also
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Speaker 1: about how Cartier and Ashton had spoken about how it's
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Speaker 1: hard to be an influencer and how the market is
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Speaker 1: so saturated and they were looking to do something different,
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Speaker 1: which was this matcha business. And it was a big
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Speaker 1: move for them because their podcast had a lot of potential.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've spoken in the past about how there
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Speaker 1: are so many influencer podcasts in the market now, But
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Speaker 1: theirs really was a standout because when they launched, it
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Speaker 1: shot straight to number one on the charts and it
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Speaker 1: really legitimized their following.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You can tell that people were genuinely interested in what
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Speaker 1: they had to say. And it started to turn into
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Speaker 1: a podcast where they would reveal a lot about their
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Speaker 1: private lives. And that was also another reason behind them
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Speaker 1: shutting it down, that they no longer wanted to share
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Speaker 1: so many details about themselves. It did coincide with Cartier
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Speaker 1: also breaking up with that Chelsea footballer.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Because both of the girls are currently living in London
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Speaker 1: and they chose to announce the closure of their podcast
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Speaker 1: on the Common Chaos Instagram account. Let's have a listen
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Speaker 1: to what they said.
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Speaker 4: We just wanted to.
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Speaker 1: Jump on and say, we love you guys.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like we don't even know how to put it into
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Speaker 1: words because we haven't even processed the fact that we
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Speaker 1: have ended the podcast. We had our 100th episode that
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Speaker 1: we had to record and we were like, we should probably...
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Speaker 1: you know, announce this and do this now. And we
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Speaker 1: obviously have our new baby launching very soon, which you've seen.
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Speaker 1: So the timing kind of crazily coincided. But we wanted
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Speaker 1: to jump on and say that we don't want you
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Speaker 1: to feel like we're abandoning you. Katia and Ashton also
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Speaker 1: went on to explain that the podcast would continue for
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Speaker 1: the next few months as they played archival episodes. I'm
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Speaker 1: guessing they had some sponsorship requirements to fulfil. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't know who would be listening to these archived
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Speaker 1: old episodes. No, it was like reruns of their old episodes. Yeah. Now,
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Speaker 1: if we go back to the timeline, things appeared rosy
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Speaker 1: between Cartier and Ashton on the 25th of June because
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Speaker 1: they shared a TikTok telling followers they were heading out
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Speaker 1: to dinner to celebrate 10 years of friendship. So it
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Speaker 1: all seemed okay. Now, on the 29th of September, Cartier
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Speaker 1: shared a TikTok whilst she was in Paris and the
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Speaker 1: video showed her holding up one of those oversized mocked
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Speaker 1: up newspapers and the cover revealed the news that they
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Speaker 1: had just launched their new matcher company named Highline. Her
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Speaker 1: post read, Highline Matcha launched in Australia October 1. Extremely
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Speaker 1: limited stock, so be ready. Now Ashton also shared a
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Speaker 1: reel to Instagram walking around with the same newspaper whilst
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Speaker 1: holding a matcha. Her caption read, Highline is finally yours.
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Speaker 1: After building this brand from scratch and putting in so
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Speaker 1: much love and passion to bring you the best matcha
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Speaker 1: that we fell in love with over a year ago.
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Speaker 1: I have to pinch myself for this to feel real.
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Speaker 1: Love you guys and I'm crying at the support already.
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Speaker 1: So things seemed pretty normal. And then on the 2nd
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Speaker 1: of October, their last official episode of the podcast aired.
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Speaker 1: And in the opener, Cartier and Ashton again hinted at
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Speaker 1: the launch of their new much of business. Here's what
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Speaker 1: they said. We have some really exciting news for you guys.
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Speaker 1: We are working on our new baby, which we are
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Speaker 1: so excited for you guys to find out about. They're
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Speaker 1: like the new baby. What are you guys fucking cooking up? Well,
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Speaker 1: we've got a new brand coming out soon, which we've
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Speaker 1: been working really hard on.
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Speaker 2: And it's really exciting.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you've already probably seen the teasers. Now,
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Speaker 1: less than three weeks after, there were reports that Ashton
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Speaker 1: unfollowed Katya on Instagram. Now, Katya was still following Ashton
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Speaker 1: at this point. And followers also began to notice that
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Speaker 1: the pair were no longer commenting on each other's posts
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Speaker 1: like they normally would. Now, if we wade into the weeds,
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Speaker 1: there are rumors that the friendship may have come to
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Speaker 1: an end due to Ashton's friendship with Cartier's ex, Josh Houston.
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Speaker 1: So Ashton, as well as Cartier's other friend, Liv Grivers,
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Speaker 1: were spotted at the beach with Josh Houston. And Josh
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Speaker 1: also posted a photo of Ashton to his Instagram photo dump.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if that's not a fuck you, like going
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Speaker 1: out with your friend's ex and then him sharing photos
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Speaker 1: of it. Yeah. And especially because their other friend Liv,
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Speaker 1: who is a big influencer in the UK, she was
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Speaker 1: also in attendance. A lot of people thought, well, wow,
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Speaker 1: there really seems to be this friendship divide. And a
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Speaker 1: lot of their friends seem to be siding with Ashton. Now,
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Speaker 1: if I was Katya, I would not be happy with this.
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Speaker 1: She ended up posting a TikTok to, I think she
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Speaker 1: was trying to drop clues without saying much. So she
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Speaker 1: shared a video saying that she was in her villain era.
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Speaker 1: Now this prompted a lot of her followers to ask
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Speaker 1: if she was okay in the comments and they mentioned
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Speaker 1: that they had seen the photos of Josh and Ashton
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Speaker 1: together with Liv. Now, this is where influencer Liv Grievous
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Speaker 1: officially entered the chat. So she wrote under Katia's video,
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Speaker 1: if only you all knew the truth. What a burn,
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Speaker 1: because this has led to a lot of speculation that
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Speaker 1: maybe the problem is actually Katia. Yeah, well, when there's
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Speaker 1: multiple friends siding with one person. Well, two days before
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Speaker 1: this post, Katia had also shared a very cryptic TikTok entitled,
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Speaker 1: no revenge because our frequencies were aligned and brought up
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Speaker 1: together to be mirrors of each other's abandonment and attachment issues.
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Speaker 1: for our spiritual growth, revealing to us that only self-love
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Speaker 1: can fill that void, not people. Now, Katie, can you
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Speaker 1: translate that into normal folk speak? Non-woo-woo. I think it
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Speaker 1: means that they're so similar that if she was to
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Speaker 1: seek revenge on Ashton, that she would too cop revenge.
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Or it's saying that they're so similar that, of course,
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Speaker 1: they were going to have issues with each other. I'm
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Speaker 1: not really sure. I mean, they lost me at spiritual growth.
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Speaker 1: I tuned out at that point. Now, it seems like
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Speaker 1: the final straw may have been Ashton's launch event for
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Speaker 1: her It Girl capsule wardrobe collaboration with UK influencer Grace
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Speaker 1: Beverly's clothing line, Tala. So late last week, Tala threw
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Speaker 1: an event to celebrate the launch and Katya was nowhere
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Speaker 1: to be seen. However, a big group of Cartier and
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Speaker 1: Ashton's shared friends were all in attendance. And that night,
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Speaker 1: some super sleuths found that Cartier had shared a post
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Speaker 1: on her private Instagram account saying she was crying and
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Speaker 1: asked why are girls so fucking mean. That would be
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Speaker 1: so hard for Cartier watching that all play out online
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Speaker 1: because not only does she know that she wasn't invited
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Speaker 1: to Ashton's event, but she also knows that all her
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Speaker 1: friends have literally chosen Ashton's side. And attended? Exactly. And
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Speaker 1: this is the point where it seems like Cartier has
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Speaker 1: decided to pull the pin on the business. So on Saturday,
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Speaker 1: all of Highline Matcha's Instagram posts were removed and two
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Speaker 1: static posts were shared announcing the closure. The post read,
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Speaker 1: we are writing with both gratitude and a lot of
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Speaker 1: sadness to let you know that Highline Matcha will be
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Speaker 1: closing its doors. We're deeply appreciative of your support and
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Speaker 1: enthusiasm for our Matcha brand. And it's been a joy
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Speaker 1: to serve this community of Matcha lovers. With love, Katia
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Speaker 1: and Ashton. Now, the next post read, as a small thanks,
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Speaker 1: we're offering a 10% discount on all remaining items. If
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Speaker 1: you'd like to stock up or try Highline before we close,
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Speaker 1: please use code farewell10. Maybe it should have been friendshipbreakdown10
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Speaker 1: as the code. This promotion will be available for 48 hours.
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Speaker 1: We're grateful for every one of you who has made
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Speaker 1: this journey possible and we hope you enjoy this token
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Speaker 1: of our appreciation. Jeez, if you're shutting down the business
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Speaker 1: and need to get rid of stock, I would have
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Speaker 1: thought you'd offer more than $ 10, 000. Well, the bags of
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Speaker 1: match are around $ 60 a pop as well. But it
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Speaker 1: made me think, I know the official release had both
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Speaker 1: Cartier and Ashton's name on it, but I tend to
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Speaker 1: think that Ashton has been blindsided because she still has
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Speaker 1: up the Highline link and also she tags them in
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Speaker 1: her bio. And as part of her gifting for her
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Speaker 1: Tala collaboration, there were bags of matcha being put in
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Speaker 1: these gift boxes. Probably trying to get rid of the shit.
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Speaker 1: I think Katya could just go and do whatever she
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Speaker 1: wants with the business. Surely they've signed some sort of
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Speaker 1: agreement that they both have to sign off on important
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Speaker 1: stuff like the closure of it. It's very reminiscent though
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Speaker 1: of Ashley Bynes' recent friendship breakdown with her podcast host.
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Speaker 1: It seems like everyone, maybe this is the time of
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Speaker 1: year where these friendships are breaking up. Is this a
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Speaker 1: sign not to do podcasts with your closest friends? Because
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Speaker 1: That's right, we're siblings. Yeah, we're family. We've already fought
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Speaker 1: a million times. Well, Kate, you mentioned at the start
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Speaker 1: of this segment that Ashton and Carty had spoken about
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Speaker 1: how hard it is to be an influencer at the moment.
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Speaker 1: I wonder what they're going to do now because they've
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Speaker 1: obviously invested a lot of money into this. Does this
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Speaker 1: mean that Ashton's going to have to go out and
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Speaker 1: Carty's going to go out and get a real job? No,
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Speaker 1: they don't need a real job because this has sparked
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Speaker 1: interest back in them. This is great for their personal brands.
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Speaker 1: Maybe this is a PR stunt after all. I don't
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Speaker 1: think it's a PR stunt. I think it's just a
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Speaker 1: friendship bust up. Do we think that Katia will move
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Speaker 1: back to Australia now?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, possibly. I know the girls were living together
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Speaker 1: when they first moved over, but they haven't been living
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Speaker 1: together for a while. But if she doesn't have that
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Speaker 1: friendship group to lean on, it might mean she will
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Speaker 1: come home. Now, I just want to know. which one
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Speaker 1: of them will spill the matcha? Will it be Cartier
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Speaker 1: or Ashton? Who do you think? I think they both will,
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Speaker 1: but it will start off by Cartier. Like Cartier will
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Speaker 1: come out and say something. She'll probably play the victim
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Speaker 1: because it almost seems like her friends are ganging up
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Speaker 1: on her and then maybe the real tea will come
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Speaker 1: out later. See, I actually think Ashton will come out
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Speaker 1: and say something because Cartier's personal brand is very much
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Speaker 1: that turn the other cheek. I'm very spiritual. I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: want to ruin my spiritual peace by bitching. But Ashton's
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Speaker 1: not going to want to say anything when she's got
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Speaker 1: this huge collaboration with this brand in the UK. Like
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Speaker 1: it's not a good look. Well, I think it is
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Speaker 1: a good look because it means you're relevant and people
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Speaker 1: seem to care about your friendship. But I do think
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Speaker 1: if Ashton says something, that's just going to open the floodgates. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I always keep Polaroids in my bag.
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Speaker 4: This one is disgusting.
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Speaker 3: If you look closely, you can see there's chewing gum
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Speaker 3: stuck to it, but I can't get rid of it
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Speaker 3: because it's a photograph of my daughter and it's not
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Speaker 3: even a good photograph. It's the only one I have
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Speaker 3: in my bag and I need to carry on all times.
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Speaker 3: I can pretend to be all like cool and put
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Speaker 3: together with this bag, but this actually is what sums
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Speaker 3: me up right here. Not just one piece of chewing gum,
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Speaker 3: two pieces of chewing gum.
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Speaker 1: Molly May has revealed she was blindsided by Tommy Fury
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Speaker 1: in her first interview since the couple's shock breakup. Molly's
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Speaker 1: revelations came just days after fresh cheating allegations were levelled
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Speaker 1: at her former fiancé. Now, this wasn't just a regular interview.
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Speaker 1: This was a spread in British Vogue with a very
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Speaker 1: iconic photo shoot. Molly looked stunning. So a bit better
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Speaker 1: than that exclusive that Tommy gave to the Daily Mail
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Speaker 1: just before the release of his memoir. Seems a bit classier.
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Speaker 1: Just a tad. Now, Molly has spoken about the breakup
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Speaker 1: briefly on her YouTube channel, but this is the first
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Speaker 1: time she's been interviewed about it. And I love that
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Speaker 1: she chose Vogue to dish the dirt Now, if you
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Speaker 1: can believe it, it's been three months since the breakup.
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Speaker 1: That is absolutely crazy. Now, I think we need to
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Speaker 1: get into some of the key takeaways from this interview.
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Speaker 1: So firstly, Molly teased that Tommy may reveal more one
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Speaker 1: day about what happened. She said, yeah, I mean, it
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Speaker 1: was a bit of a shock, the circumstances. I didn't
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Speaker 1: want what happened to happen. No one will ever really
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Speaker 1: know what went down, but Tommy and I, and that's
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Speaker 1: how we'd like to keep it for Bambi's sake. I
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Speaker 1: do think that when he's ready, like maybe more will
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Speaker 1: be said, but I think that's for him to do
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Speaker 1: on his terms. It's not like it's gossip. It's real life.
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Speaker 1: And it's, you know, it's a real deep situation. It's
16:37
Speaker 1: really sad. Now, Tommy has come out and denied that
16:41
Speaker 1: he cheated on Molly. And the fact that she keeps
16:43
Speaker 1: saying only Tommy and I know about it, It seems
16:46
Speaker 1: like she is trying to back up his claims that
16:48
Speaker 1: no cheating was involved. But it's just so confusing because
16:51
Speaker 1: what else would it be? Well, it's definitely still putting
16:53
Speaker 1: all of the onus on him for the reason for
16:55
Speaker 1: the breakup as well. I like how Molly mentioned in
16:58
Speaker 1: the interview that people were comparing her breakup to Diana
17:01
Speaker 1: and Charles. Oh, yeah. She's obviously been reading all the
17:05
Speaker 1: commentary and keeping a keen eye on it all. I
17:07
Speaker 1: think the most exciting thing for me to come out
17:09
Speaker 1: of this interview is Molly has confirmed she'll be starring
17:12
Speaker 1: in a documentary about her life on Prime. So this
17:16
Speaker 1: is going to be a three-hour special and they began
17:19
Speaker 1: filming just as Tommy and Molly split up and as
17:22
Speaker 1: she launched her new brand, Maybe. Well, the awkward thing
17:25
Speaker 1: is this doco was actually meant to follow the lead
17:28
Speaker 1: up to Tommy and Molly's wedding. And Molly did say
17:31
Speaker 1: in the interview that she had set a date in
17:33
Speaker 1: September 2025 to marry Tommy and she was counting down
17:36
Speaker 1: the days. But this film crew has got more than
17:40
Speaker 1: they ever imagined, I'm sure. Molly spoke about how her
17:43
Speaker 1: friends took her down to the Soho farmhouse and that
17:46
Speaker 1: she was trying to get drunk and she had a
17:48
Speaker 1: drink of rosé but just couldn't drink anymore. Because she's
17:51
Speaker 1: not a drinker at all. No, and she said she
17:53
Speaker 1: hates the feeling of being drunk and she got, I think,
17:55
Speaker 1: halfway through this glass of rosé and was like, nah,
17:57
Speaker 1: that's not for me. I'm hoping the film crew was
18:00
Speaker 1: at Soho Farmhouse at the time. Well, it's come out
18:03
Speaker 1: as well that this documentary is being produced by the
18:06
Speaker 1: same team behind the Netflix series that did At Home
18:09
Speaker 1: With The Furies. Interesting that they've sold it to Prime
18:12
Speaker 1: rather than Netflix. I'm guessing there was a massive bidding
18:15
Speaker 1: war for this doco. I'm also guessing that the film
18:18
Speaker 1: crew saw how good Tommy and Molly were on camera
18:20
Speaker 1: and were like, we need to do something with them. Oh, definitely.
18:23
Speaker 1: And there's still so much drama surrounding this couple that
18:26
Speaker 1: there's going to be added interest in this documentary when
18:30
Speaker 1: it comes out because just three days prior to Molly's
18:33
Speaker 1: interview with British Vogue, an adult content creator called Katie
18:37
Speaker 1: Robertson claimed that she was part of the reason Molly
18:41
Speaker 1: and Tommy broke up. And I have seen this clip everywhere.
18:44
Speaker 1: Like it's going off on TikTok. And at first I
18:47
Speaker 1: was like, wait a second, who is this girl? And
18:50
Speaker 1: is this even true? Well, it's really confusing. A lot
18:52
Speaker 1: of people have sent us this clip and I actually
18:54
Speaker 1: tried to find the podcast, but I think it might
18:56
Speaker 1: just be a TikTok show because I could not find
18:58
Speaker 1: it on Apple Podcasts. Or maybe they had to remove it. Yeah. Well,
19:01
Speaker 1: I couldn't find the whole show in general, not just
19:03
Speaker 1: this episode. And when I first watched it, I was like, nah,
19:07
Speaker 1: this has got to be fake. And the comments were like, nah,
19:10
Speaker 1: like no one is believing it. Yeah, so the show
19:14
Speaker 1: is called The Reality Check Show Podcast. Let's throw to
19:17
Speaker 1: a clip of what she said. So how did you
19:20
Speaker 1: have sex with Tommy Fiori?
19:22
Speaker 4: So I was in Dubai and we was at a
19:25
Speaker 4: club called Drift Nightclub and he'd like three guys at
19:30
Speaker 4: the time bearing in mind.
19:32
Speaker 1: Wait, was he with his wife? Yeah, wait, hold on.
19:35
Speaker 1: I need a time throw.
19:36
Speaker 4: Molly Mae wasn't there.
19:38
Speaker 1: Was he with Molly Mae?
19:40
Speaker 4: There was a thing back in May this year, but
19:43
Speaker 4: Tommy was in Dubai for work.
19:45
Speaker 1: So he was still dating. With Chris Brown.
19:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
19:47
Speaker 1: Still dating.
19:48
Speaker 4: And he had three birds plus me.
19:50
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait. So he cheated on Molly May with you?
19:54
Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:55
Speaker 1: So wait, are you the reason why they broke up?
19:58
Speaker 4: Part of the reason, yeah.
19:59
Speaker 1: And the three other girls.
20:00
Speaker 4: And I got the photo to show.
20:02
Speaker 3: Oh my God.
20:03
Speaker 1: What photo?
20:04
Speaker 3: What? What?
20:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
20:08
Speaker 4: And then we'd come off in the G-Wagon. It always
20:15
Speaker 4: going down. Oh, my God.
20:19
Speaker 1: Oh, my God. You need to send us that. Now,
20:25
Speaker 1: unlike the other cheating allegations that were leveled at Tommy Fury,
20:29
Speaker 1: no one is buying these. And when I saw the video,
20:32
Speaker 1: I was like, holy fuck, what is this? This can't
20:34
Speaker 1: be true. And everyone was mirroring my thoughts in the
20:37
Speaker 1: comments saying, this is bullshit. But she was so adamant
20:40
Speaker 1: about it. Like the way she was telling it, you
20:42
Speaker 1: were like, wait a sec, why? I don't know who
20:44
Speaker 1: this woman is. There must be more to this story.
20:47
Speaker 2: Yeah.
20:47
Speaker 1: Well, she said that she has receipts. So she spoke
20:49
Speaker 1: about how she's got videos. She didn't film Tommy's face apparently,
20:53
Speaker 1: but she filmed on the plane with him and in
20:57
Speaker 1: the hotel room. So it sounded legit. She's then gone
21:00
Speaker 1: on TikTok and shared this content. And it honestly looks
21:04
Speaker 1: like it's been Photoshopped or AI generated and not by
21:08
Speaker 1: someone that's good at it. No, because the photo of Tommy,
21:12
Speaker 1: it's distorted. It doesn't look like a normal person. And
21:15
Speaker 1: it makes me wonder, is she trolling us? Well, it's
21:18
Speaker 1: really weird because Normally, if someone did this and it
21:21
Speaker 1: was legit, their account would blow up. They'd have so
21:24
Speaker 1: many TikTok followers. The comments would be crazy, the reshares.
21:27
Speaker 1: But she keeps having to create new accounts and upload
21:30
Speaker 1: it into new accounts because she's just not getting the traction.
21:32
Speaker 1: Or is she being banned? No, no, no. Like it's
21:35
Speaker 1: literally that she's just trying to create shock value because
21:37
Speaker 1: no one is buying into it. The only thing that's
21:39
Speaker 1: happening is she is being trolled mercifully. And it is
21:43
Speaker 1: difficult to talk about because I don't want to put
21:45
Speaker 1: down her appearance. But a lot of people are saying
21:47
Speaker 1: that they don't believe it. because of the way that
21:50
Speaker 1: she looks. But I don't even think that that's the
21:52
Speaker 1: standout thing. Because you often see men have these glamorous partners,
21:58
Speaker 1: and then it comes out that they've cheated with somebody
22:00
Speaker 1: who traditionally isn't the most attractive person. There's a lot
22:04
Speaker 1: of people comparing the way this girl and Molly Mae look,
22:07
Speaker 1: and they look very different to each other. And there
22:10
Speaker 1: is a lot of bullying that's going on in the comments.
22:12
Speaker 1: And normally, I would be very against this. But I
22:15
Speaker 1: think it's because this girl has come out and been
22:18
Speaker 1: so vulgar about it. So she isn't saying, oh, I
22:22
Speaker 1: have regret about it. It's like she had this real
22:25
Speaker 1: chip on her shoulder when she spoke about it and
22:27
Speaker 1: she seemed really smug. It's the fact that it's bullshit
22:29
Speaker 1: as well. She's literally creating photoshopped images of her and
22:33
Speaker 1: Tommy that look fake as fuck. And that's why people
22:35
Speaker 1: are saying, what the fuck are you doing? This is
22:37
Speaker 1: a family. These people are real people and you're coming
22:41
Speaker 1: out for clout. saying, lying that you've had an affair
22:45
Speaker 1: with Tommy Fury. Yeah, it's actually backfired on this girl.
22:47
Speaker 1: It's gross. Remember when Molly and Tommy first broke up
22:51
Speaker 1: and that story spread like wildfire that Tommy had impregnated
22:55
Speaker 1: that boxing manager's daughter? And it wasn't true. And the
22:59
Speaker 1: family were all trying to shut it down. But this
23:01
Speaker 1: girl is literally trying to get clout from creating this
23:05
Speaker 1: fabricated story. And it's not the first time she has
23:08
Speaker 1: done stuff like this for attention. So she actually got
23:11
Speaker 1: a And she also got her dad fired from his
23:14
Speaker 1: job because she was sharing videos of herself stripping while
23:18
Speaker 1: he was watching the TV and she was throwing her
23:21
Speaker 1: undies at his head. And he used to work at
23:23
Speaker 1: a school as a head teacher. So he got fired.
23:26
Speaker 1: And then there are other reports of her filming herself
23:29
Speaker 1: masturbating while her grandfather slept. That's revolting. I'm just glad
23:33
Speaker 1: that no one seems to be buying into her crap,
23:35
Speaker 1: but it is alarming that these sort of rumors and
23:38
Speaker 1: allegations can get so much attention on social media.
23:41
Speaker 4: Yeah.
23:41
Speaker 1: Well, Tommy is yet to comment on the allegations, which
23:43
Speaker 1: I think is a good thing because most people can
23:45
Speaker 1: see that they're absolutely bullshit. And in his memoir that
23:48
Speaker 1: he released back in October, he denied cheating was involved
23:51
Speaker 1: in the relationship breakdown. So he wrote, The allegations around
23:55
Speaker 1: me cheating have been created by the press in line.
23:57
Speaker 1: with their own agenda and bear no resemblance to the
24:00
Speaker 1: reality of my situation. He also said in an interview
24:03
Speaker 1: that the truth will come out in time and when
24:05
Speaker 1: it does, I think a lot of people might regret
24:06
Speaker 1: their actions and unkind words. So it is interesting that
24:09
Speaker 1: the press have not picked up on these fresh allegations
24:12
Speaker 1: at all. Well, I think that just cements how untrue
24:14
Speaker 1: they are. And I wonder if Tommy Fury will actually
24:17
Speaker 1: pursue legal action against this woman because she has made
24:19
Speaker 1: some wild claims that are pretty easy to disprove. In
24:22
Speaker 1: saying that, do you think that people may have believed
24:25
Speaker 1: her if she looked a different way? I think people
24:28
Speaker 1: might have believed her if she didn't have a history
24:30
Speaker 1: of being a pathological liar and she hadn't uploaded bizarre
24:34
Speaker 1: photoshopped pictures. Yeah, but I think people that didn't even
24:37
Speaker 1: know that and have just seen her talking on the
24:39
Speaker 1: podcast about, oh, Tommy, if you're in, I did this
24:41
Speaker 1: and that. Like everyone was just focused on like people
24:43
Speaker 1: were calling her Buzz Lightyear and Jay Leno and Quagmire.
24:47
Speaker 1: As I've said, I mean. When I first saw her,
24:50
Speaker 1: I wasn't so taken aback by her looks. She looks
24:52
Speaker 1: like a normal girl. See, I was. I was like, oh,
24:54
Speaker 1: that's not really who I would think that he would
24:56
Speaker 1: be with. Yeah, but when you're drunk in a nightclub,
24:59
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like often it's they
25:01
Speaker 1: don't go for the most glamorous girls to cheat with.
25:03
Speaker 1: Like if you're someone like Tommy Fury, you're going for
25:06
Speaker 1: somebody who, one, might not know who you are, doesn't
25:08
Speaker 1: know your relationship status, et cetera, et cetera. Like I
25:11
Speaker 1: don't think we can judge the appearance of the person
25:14
Speaker 1: that he's cheated on. No, but what I'm saying is
25:16
Speaker 1: people have bought into stories of Tommy cheating with these
25:19
Speaker 1: other women when there's actually no truth to them or
25:21
Speaker 1: no evidence and have gone, oh, it must have happened.
25:24
Speaker 1: But with this girl saying, oh, I've got this receipt
25:26
Speaker 1: and this receipt and this is what happened, people are like, no,
25:29
Speaker 1: I didn't, just by looking at her. We're doing our
25:33
Speaker 1: announcement video shoot with Hey Jack. It's really nice tonight.
25:38
Speaker 1: It's 20 degrees. It's quiet. So hopefully no one sees. Hopefully.
25:44
Speaker 1: I have my jacket on hiding the bumps. Former Love
25:48
Speaker 1: Islander turned influencer and podcaster Anna McAvoy has announced she
25:52
Speaker 1: and her husband, Michael Staples, are expecting a baby. Now, Amy,
25:56
Speaker 1: this announcement didn't disappoint. No, because it was produced by
26:00
Speaker 1: a Melbourne-based videographer called Hayjack, who normally specializes in wedding videos.
26:06
Speaker 1: And the video began with shots of Anna and Michael
26:09
Speaker 1: as children. And then it led up to this clip
26:11
Speaker 1: of Michael singing a line of the song Ocean Eyes
26:14
Speaker 1: whilst playing a guitar. So the They were really pulling
26:17
Speaker 1: on all the emotional strings, weren't they? Did you feel
26:19
Speaker 1: emotional watching it? I mean, I'm not as invested in
26:22
Speaker 1: this couple, so I personally didn't, but I've heard a
26:25
Speaker 1: lot of people online saying that they cried actually watching
26:28
Speaker 1: this video. So it hit some people hard. And then
26:32
Speaker 1: the professional version of this song took over on the
26:34
Speaker 1: video and it went to a montage of videos of
26:37
Speaker 1: Anna and Michael at their first scan, as well as
26:39
Speaker 1: whimsical vision of them walking along the beach during golden hour.
26:43
Speaker 1: Of course, there were shots of Anna's cute bump. I
26:46
Speaker 1: did see her beautiful ring flashed a few times. It
26:48
Speaker 1: looked stunning. And then the video ended with the caption,
26:51
Speaker 1: baby staples coming 2025. So they didn't actually say which month. No,
26:56
Speaker 1: they haven't said yet. I would love to know how
26:58
Speaker 1: pregnant she is because the timing of this all is
27:01
Speaker 1: very interesting because her podcast co-host, Matt Sikowsky, of course,
27:06
Speaker 1: gets married to Tammy Hembrough in just a week. That's crazy.
27:09
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if she thought, shit, I better get
27:12
Speaker 1: it out there because everyone's going to be looking at
27:14
Speaker 1: what I'm wearing at the wedding. People might notice that
27:16
Speaker 1: I've got a bump. Well, and a lot of the
27:18
Speaker 1: time women get blamed unfairly if they go to someone's wedding,
27:22
Speaker 1: like a high profile wedding. She might get accused of
27:25
Speaker 1: taking the shine away from Tammy if she appears pregnant
27:28
Speaker 1: at the wedding. A lot of people were saying that
27:30
Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough stole attention from her wedding. Yeah. probably wouldn't
27:33
Speaker 1: blame her if she did do that. There was another
27:35
Speaker 1: TikTok that Anna shared and it was showing the behind
27:38
Speaker 1: the scenes of this video shoot. It was quite funny
27:41
Speaker 1: because the video showed her and Michael walking down to
27:45
Speaker 1: the beach and she had this puffer jacket on and
27:46
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm just trying to hide the bump. I
27:48
Speaker 1: just don't want anyone to see me. And I hope
27:50
Speaker 1: no one spots us doing this video. And it just
27:53
Speaker 1: made me laugh because With influences, while there are so
27:56
Speaker 1: many people, I think she's got over 300,000 followers, the
27:59
Speaker 1: common man who's probably walking on the beach would not
28:02
Speaker 1: know who she was or not give a shit. In
28:04
Speaker 1: saying that though, I think because she is adjacent to
28:07
Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough at the moment that it might've caused interest.
28:11
Speaker 1: I mean, not many people would have thought that Super
28:14
Speaker 1: Sleuths would film Tammy and Matt Sikowsky at that hotel
28:18
Speaker 1: room a year ago. True. Maybe she thought, shit, I'd
28:20
Speaker 1: hate it to get out like that way. What do
28:22
Speaker 1: you think of the video announcement? Because we're seeing more
28:25
Speaker 1: of this trend of these movie trailer style videos.
28:29
Speaker 4: I mean, M.
28:30
Speaker 1: Davies did a pretty similar one recently. Look, A plus
28:33
Speaker 1: for effort, I think. I mean, they probably had to
28:35
Speaker 1: pay this guy quite a bit of money. We did
28:37
Speaker 1: speak about it recently when Matt Paul did a very
28:40
Speaker 1: organic announcement. And we compared that to when Tammy announced
28:43
Speaker 1: her pregnancy with Matt Paul back a couple of years ago.
28:47
Speaker 1: and the difference because she did a very high quality
28:49
Speaker 1: video too. I just can't wait to see the average
28:52
Speaker 1: person emulating this kind of announcement, like normies doing it
28:56
Speaker 1: because once it's an influencer trend, it starts to trickle
28:59
Speaker 1: down into normal baby announcements. And I don't know if
29:02
Speaker 1: it's going to translate very well, like your friend pops
29:05
Speaker 1: up and they've done a movie trailer announcing their baby. Well,
29:07
Speaker 1: just last week, Steph Clare Smith shared that she was
29:10
Speaker 1: pregnant with baby number two, and she ended up just
29:13
Speaker 1: sharing a couple of black and white photos. But she
29:15
Speaker 1: has been drip feeding content since then. So she did
29:18
Speaker 1: a whole podcast episode dedicated to her pregnancy. And she
29:21
Speaker 1: also shared a really sweet video of her telling Harvey,
29:25
Speaker 1: her three-year-old son, the news. But it was very touching.
29:28
Speaker 1: But all I noticed was the fact that her son's
29:31
Speaker 1: face was squiggled out with a white squiggle. Yeah, because
29:35
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it until today when you showed me, Kate,
29:37
Speaker 1: because we spoke a few weeks back about how Steph
29:40
Speaker 1: was trying to conceal her son's Harvey's identity. Now he's
29:43
Speaker 1: a little bit older and she had pixelated him in
29:46
Speaker 1: a recent video and we were speaking about whether she
29:48
Speaker 1: was going to continue to do this because she copped
29:50
Speaker 1: a lot of heat.
29:51
Speaker 4: But I don't know.
29:52
Speaker 1: I almost think the pixel was better than the squiggle.
29:55
Speaker 1: It just looked bizarre. I just think if you've made
29:58
Speaker 1: a choice that you don't want to share about him,
29:59
Speaker 1: then why is he in all the content? Like it
30:02
Speaker 1: doesn't really make much sense. Well, I think that's all
30:04
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