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231. Betina Gozo Shimonek, Nike Global Trainer · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: You just don't bounce back. You know, it doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: happen that way. You know, you have a brand new life.
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  Speaker 1: We have a brand new human. Things are so different,
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  Speaker 1: and it's all about adapting to your brand new life,
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  Speaker 1: but not forgetting who you were before.
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  Speaker 2: Watch Shake and Everybody, Emily A body Here. You are
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  Speaker 2: listening to episode two hundred and thirty one of Hurdle,
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  Speaker 2: a wellness focus podcast where I connect with everyone from
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  Speaker 2: your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about
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  Speaker 2: their highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between. We
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  Speaker 2: all go through hurdles in life, and my goal through
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  Speaker 2: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours
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  Speaker 2: and move with intention so that you can stride towards
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  Speaker 2: your own big potential and of course have some fun
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  Speaker 2: along the way. For episode two thirty one, I am
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  Speaker 2: chatting with Betina Gozo Shimanette. She is a Nike Global trainer.
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  Speaker 2: She's also the creator of line Up with Us, a
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  Speaker 2: new platform for training programs and workouts, alongside her husband Nick.
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  Speaker 2: I am so so excited to have Beatina back on
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  Speaker 2: the show. You may recognize her because we've chatted before.
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  Speaker 2: Bettina and I first connected for episode seventy two years ago,
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  Speaker 2: and as we talk about in today's episode, Oh my God,
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  Speaker 2: so much has happened since then. Today we cover it all.
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  Speaker 2: We talk about what life's been like since we sat
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  Speaker 2: down in her Los Angeles house, including the fact that
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  Speaker 2: she now lives in Texas with her husband and daughter,
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  Speaker 2: a Luna, and they have a baby on the way.
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  Speaker 2: Betina talks to me about what's been going on in
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  Speaker 2: terms of her career as well, going from being a
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  Speaker 2: Nike Master Trainer to working as one of the founding
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  Speaker 2: trainers for Apple Fitness Plus, now departed from Apple, working
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  Speaker 2: back with Nike, and like I said, working with her
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  Speaker 2: husband Nick to create something special. She opens up about
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  Speaker 2: her journey with pregnancy, what it was like leading into
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  Speaker 2: the birth of her first child, and how she managed
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  Speaker 2: to have grace with herself both before that birth and
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  Speaker 2: afterward coming back into her body, recognizing that she is just,
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  Speaker 2: how she puts it, different now and that different is okay,
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  Speaker 2: and that there is just so much importance with having
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  Speaker 2: grace with herself in this new chapter of motherhood. Now,
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  Speaker 2: as I mentioned, they have one on the way, so
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  Speaker 2: she's back to incorporating that important mindset, that important lesson
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  Speaker 2: into her every day taking care of her body and
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  Speaker 2: as she puts so eloquently, her mind as well in
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  Speaker 2: this chapter, knowing that the thoughts and the things that
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  Speaker 2: she's feeling these are things that her baby boy is
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  Speaker 2: feeling too, and so she wants to be mindful of
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  Speaker 2: that moving forward. I love this episode. There are so
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  Speaker 2: many beautiful takeaways for women that may be pregnant, moms
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  Speaker 2: to be, and new moms, many of whom reach out
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  Speaker 2: to me on the regular asking for this type of content.
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  Speaker 3: So silver platter, it is here and ready for you.
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  Speaker 2: Also, love always being able to connect with friends. As
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned in today's episode, Betina is truly one of
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  Speaker 2: the most beautiful souls, kind hearted humans and it's always
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  Speaker 2: just a good time to spend some time with my girl.
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  Speaker 3: Make sure you're.
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  Speaker 2: Following along with Hurdle over on social It's at Hurdle Podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: I am over at Emily a body and with that,
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  Speaker 2: let's get to it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get to hurtling.
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  Speaker 2: Today, I am sitting down with my gal Pala, Bettina
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  Speaker 2: Gozo Shimanek.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, friend, I'm good. That has changed since
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  Speaker 3: the last time we talked I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was looking in to see when that was and
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, episode seventy two, So there's some context here.
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  Speaker 2: There's three hundred and thirty episodes in the feed, episode
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  Speaker 2: seventy two, so that was over three years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And like you have a double last name now.
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  Speaker 1: I know, it's so crazy, and a baby and another
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  Speaker 1: one on the way. And I live in Texas now,
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  Speaker 1: like you were in my little little living room in
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  Speaker 1: LA with my two other roommates and now I'm like
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  Speaker 1: living in a house with three dogs, a baby, and
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  Speaker 1: a husband.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. Did we Did we think that was going to
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  Speaker 3: happen when I was sitting on your living room floor?
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  Speaker 1: Definitely not.
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  Speaker 3: Did you know Nick at that time?
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  Speaker 1: I did, actually, because he was working at Vitrue where
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  Speaker 1: I was where I was coaching. So we were friends.
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  Speaker 1: We knew each other, but we weren't dating it.
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  Speaker 3: We weren't dating it. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: So before we just like go completely into catch up mode,
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  Speaker 2: why don't you give those listening a little intel on
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  Speaker 2: who you are?
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  Speaker 3: My friend?
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  Speaker 1: So, I am a health and wellness fitness professional that
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  Speaker 1: specializes in strength training. I'm currently working with Nike as
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  Speaker 1: a Nike Global trainer formerly working with Apple Fitness Plus,
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  Speaker 1: and I do a little of everything. I guess I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to call myself a generalist, but I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I just want people to live healthy and good lives.
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  Speaker 3: I love healthy and good lives.
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  Speaker 2: And it's funny listening to you talk about what you
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  Speaker 2: do now because when we connected the last time for
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  Speaker 2: the show, you were also a Nike trainer. So how
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  Speaker 2: does it feel for you to be kind of in
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  Speaker 2: this full circle moment.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of weird because you know, I thought the
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  Speaker 1: Apple job was going to be like the thing that
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  Speaker 1: I was going to do forever. You know. It was
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  Speaker 1: a full time job, full time benefits, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: I've learned in that period of time that I just
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  Speaker 1: don't like people telling me what to do. No, it's
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  Speaker 1: not even like that, you know. I've just always been
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  Speaker 1: someone that marches to the beat of their own drum.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, working a full time
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  Speaker 1: corporate job is just something that wasn't for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I always kind of say that to people
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  Speaker 2: when they ask how it feels to work for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like there are a lot of different perceptions
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  Speaker 2: about what that entails. What it doesn't entail, but you
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  Speaker 2: have to know that you're the kind of person that
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  Speaker 2: thrives at the chance to make your own schedule and
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  Speaker 2: can be accountable with that, right yep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know the job is great, Like I think,
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  Speaker 1: I think that there's so many opportunities there, but I
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  Speaker 1: think for me, you know, it had been ten years
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  Speaker 1: that I spent as a trainer, you know, and building
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  Speaker 1: my own business, and I felt almost trapped, like I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't do everything that I wanted to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, so understandable, right, because you had this
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  Speaker 2: base of living, you know, kind of as you totally
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  Speaker 2: pleased without someone telling you necessarily when and where you
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  Speaker 2: had to be, and training clients on your time, right,
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  Speaker 2: like making the decision on when you wanted to make
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  Speaker 2: yourself available to help other people get closer to their goals.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, you know. And it was I was able to
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  Speaker 1: squeeze in a client here and there in the morning
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  Speaker 1: and then in the evening. But then I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I feel like I'm a part time
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  Speaker 1: trainer now, you know, Like I wasn't able to do
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  Speaker 1: the things that I really wanted to do. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I love the opportunity. I learned so much there, Like
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  Speaker 1: I love their mission and you know, their passion for
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  Speaker 1: inclusivity and accessibility, Like we got to learn and American
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  Speaker 1: sign language in the training world, and so that was
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  Speaker 1: kind of cool. And now I'm even noticing that I've
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  Speaker 1: just integrated those into my workouts that I've been doing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on Women's Health Live Workouts, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping to do that on Nike Training Club too.
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  Speaker 1: So I learned so much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk a little bit about the transition firstly
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  Speaker 2: into that kind of opportunity and then out of it,
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  Speaker 2: because personally, so much happened for you during that time
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 3: But when you announced that you were joining.
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  Speaker 2: The team at Apple for Apple Fitness Plus, you were
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  Speaker 2: in the early stages of being pregnant question Mark.
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  Speaker 1: So it was September when we announced, but we'd already
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  Speaker 1: been working on the project for a while. I my
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  Speaker 1: partner and I at the time, you know, we weren't
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  Speaker 1: married yet, but we had talked about having kids, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I hear so many people say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it could take up to a few years, and so
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  Speaker 1: I think because we weren't putting pressure on it just
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  Speaker 1: kind of happen. It happened a lot faster than we
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  Speaker 1: thought it would, so we I think I was officially
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  Speaker 1: pregnant in September, and that was shortly after we announced,
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  Speaker 1: so I do know that we didn't share that I
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  Speaker 1: was pregnant publicly on Apple and everything until December. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I remember being in this new job and being so
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  Speaker 1: scared to tell them, But I also knew, like Apple
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  Speaker 1: is so passionate about making sure that they can celebrate
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  Speaker 1: everybody in any stage of their life. So I was like,
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  Speaker 1: if anyone's going to keep me while I'm pregnant, of
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  Speaker 1: course they're going to keep me.
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  Speaker 3: So what a stress though?
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  Speaker 2: Right Like the time is already so stressful, both of
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  Speaker 2: them separately, separately stressful to start a new job, and
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  Speaker 2: then of course first time in your life being pregnant,
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  Speaker 2: so much goes hand in hand with that.
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  Speaker 3: So to combine the two. Talk to me about how
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  Speaker 3: that felt.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you know, I it was kind of
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  Speaker 1: weird though, because I think because it was a full
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  Speaker 1: time job and I knew that I was being taken
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  Speaker 1: care of as far as benefits, and I knew that
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  Speaker 1: I was going to have maternity leave. It was one
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  Speaker 1: of those things where I was like, Oh, I actually
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm going to be taken care of during
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  Speaker 1: this whole period, and you know, being a person that
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  Speaker 1: likes to hustle and work all the time, like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think if I had that job, I would have
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  Speaker 1: relaxed in that time that I was pregnant and postpartum.
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  Speaker 1: I would have just kept hustling. And you know, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of felt like, Oh, I can actually enjoy this job,
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  Speaker 1: enjoy the pregnancy, and I feel like everything happens for
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  Speaker 1: a reason. It's like not just saying that I got
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  Speaker 1: the Apple job so I can get pregnant. But it
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  Speaker 1: was weird how it all kind of you know, intertwined,
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  Speaker 1: the timing and everything. But it was super scary because
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  Speaker 1: I was like, how, how is Apple going to receive me?
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  Speaker 1: Are they going to resign me, or are they gonna be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well this girl just got pregnant right away. But I
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  Speaker 1: remember being so scared but so relieved at the same
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  Speaker 1: time when everyone was celebrating it. So it was very
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  Speaker 1: empowering to be a woman in the fitness industry to
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  Speaker 1: be like, Hey, I'm pregnant and I'm still going to
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  Speaker 1: be showing up on camera every single week. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to do what I do. And I think at the
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  Speaker 1: time Robin was already Rebin our own was pregnant, Like
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  Speaker 1: maybe I think she's like five months ahead of me,
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like she kind of was my inspiration.
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  Speaker 1: At the time. I was like, Okay, she's still going,
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  Speaker 1: she's still working hard, she's still doing what she does,
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  Speaker 1: and so I just knew and felt really confident in
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  Speaker 1: what I was, what the journey was ahead of me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about again, something happening for you, right, because
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  Speaker 2: how I imagine now what life would look like if
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  Speaker 2: at any point, you know, I do decide to have
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  Speaker 2: a baby. The stress that goes hand in hand with
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  Speaker 2: wanting to work and make ends meet, but also then
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  Speaker 2: take care of yourself. So to be able to have
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  Speaker 2: those benefits, Like, what a beautiful thing that happened for you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that was the biggest thing for me.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this really really like became such
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  Speaker 1: a good opportunity because of that, and it helped me
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  Speaker 1: relax more. And during this first pregnancy and now being
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  Speaker 1: pregnant for the second time, it's I already kind of
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  Speaker 1: like know what to expect. I guess you can say.
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny because even like during my first pregnancy,
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  Speaker 1: I was checking the apps every single week, like what
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  Speaker 1: is the baby growing? How big is he? Is he
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  Speaker 1: the size of a blueberry? Now, okay, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: thinking of all these things and getting so excited. But
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  Speaker 1: now I'm like, wait, how many weeks am I am?
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  Speaker 1: I nineteen twenty? I don't even know, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Like whatever, losing all track of time here exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So talk to us a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I know that you did on camera work before working
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  Speaker 2: with Apple, but what was that like for you to
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  Speaker 2: all of the sudden have access to such a diverse
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  Speaker 2: and large global group of consumers.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, first off, our team was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone on the Trainer team was it is amazing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And I love getting to know everybody, and I loved
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  Speaker 1: the passion for wanting to reach so many people globally.
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  Speaker 1: It's been great because I feel like even just in
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  Speaker 1: the short amount of time it was less than two
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  Speaker 1: years that I was working with the team, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I still have so many followers from all around the world,
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  Speaker 1: just you know, reaching out and just like, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's because you know, when I was working
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  Speaker 1: with Nike Training Club again working with them now, I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe they have the same access. I know, just
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  Speaker 1: different countries. But it's pretty cool just to touch so
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  Speaker 1: many different lives across the universe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only imagine so getting on camera while
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  Speaker 2: being pregnant the first time around. Talk to me about
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  Speaker 2: how that felt for you, because not only can it
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  Speaker 2: be challenging to keep showing up when you're pregnant period,
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  Speaker 2: but then to show up and be filmed while moving.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think the worst, to be honest, was the first
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  Speaker 1: trimester when I wasn't telling anybody because I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: show up, trying to be so giddy, and I was
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  Speaker 1: just like, I feel like crap, And every single day
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  Speaker 1: it was just like okay, I couldn't wait to tell them,
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  Speaker 1: like I think I waited till twelve weeks when my
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  Speaker 1: doctor was like, you know, I'm very confident you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to tell work, but I just wanted to be like,
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  Speaker 1: do you understand what I do for a living? Like
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  Speaker 1: I have to tell them, you know, I'm like sitting
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  Speaker 1: here doing core workouts on my belly, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't comfortable anymore. So, you know, that was I
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  Speaker 1: think that was the hardest part was in the first
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  Speaker 1: trimester when I was keeping it a secret. I felt
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  Speaker 1: a lot better in the second trimester just you know,
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  Speaker 1: I felt you know, more powerful, I felt like I
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  Speaker 1: had more energy, and then just everyone was also just
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  Speaker 1: celebrating it. I was the first pregnant trainer on camera there,
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  Speaker 1: so it was just funny because everyone was so much
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  Speaker 1: more delicate. But like, you know, I'm just like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: still doing my thing. You know, I'm still Latina with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of energy. But it was just weird to
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  Speaker 1: see like my belly growing every single week because you know,
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  Speaker 1: Apple films workouts every single week, so just to see
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  Speaker 1: the belly grow was really fun.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, you mentioned I'm still Vatina with that
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  Speaker 2: kind of energy there. What was the reaction to you
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  Speaker 2: training through your pregnancy from the outside inn Did people
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  Speaker 2: have input on what you were doing with your body?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, you know, I think that. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: were very careful with what we shared on social and
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that everything that I shared
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  Speaker 1: was safe and you know, approved by other colleagues and
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  Speaker 1: making sure I wasn't just pushing stuff out there that
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  Speaker 1: was like I wasn't just doing heavy barbell cleans and
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  Speaker 1: all these things. But you know, I remember posting something
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  Speaker 1: in my story that was just kind of more of
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  Speaker 1: a dynamic movement and someone was like, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you should be doing that, and to me,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I think this is an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: really to educate. So especially this time around, now that
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  Speaker 1: I don't have working with Apple, I'm like sharing more
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  Speaker 1: things that women can do when they're pregnant, because I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people think you can't you can't
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  Speaker 1: get your heart rate over a one forty, or you
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be jumping, and you shouldn't be doing all these things.
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  Speaker 1: But if you have a healthy, safe pregnancy, hey, it's
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  Speaker 1: totally fine as long as your body feels right doing
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  Speaker 1: it and you're not doing anything that's going to hurt
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  Speaker 1: the baby. And you know, if you're not sure what
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  Speaker 1: to do, then you should definitely consult with somebody. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when people were reaching out, I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is an opportunity to educate and let people know
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  Speaker 1: because it is a time where you should be active
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  Speaker 1: and you should still be feeling good. It's actually going
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  Speaker 1: to be better for you in the long run. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I went through forty one hours of birth. I felt
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  Speaker 1: like the exercise that I was doing helped me endure
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  Speaker 1: that forty one hours, you know, and I was able
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  Speaker 1: to go through it like I felt like it was
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  Speaker 1: only a few hours, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So you're a superwoman.
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  Speaker 2: You you mentioned, you know that that assumption that some
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  Speaker 2: may have heart rate getting over one p forty. Can
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  Speaker 2: you talk us through some more of perhaps the know
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  Speaker 2: how that you'd have now through both being pregnant and
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  Speaker 2: obviously your education as a trainer when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: foundationally what women should take into account while moving during pregnancy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, obviously you hear a lot of people say, well,
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  Speaker 1: if you weren't doing exercise before, like maybe you shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: do that, or you can do basically everything that you
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  Speaker 1: were doing before, and that's so vague, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay if you haven't been exercising before and you
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: want to start like a nice easy routine with someone
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: that's certified and knows your body and can make sure
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: you're doing everything that's safe. I think that's totally fine.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: In fact, I think it's a great time to start
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: exercising if you haven't been before. It doesn't mean you
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: need to be throwing around kettlebells and bar bells, but
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a good time to start doing some
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: basic strength training. You know, a lot of people think
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be doing rotation, but you know, how
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: are you supposed to be putting on your seat belt
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: in the car? How are you supposed to grab something
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: in the back of the back of the car when
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you're in the car. The key is just to making
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: sure that you're not like ringing your belly like you
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: just want to get movement through the upper part of
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: your body and get mobility because you know, as your
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: belly grows, you become more stiff through the upper part
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: of your back, so you want to make sure you're
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: getting mobility in there. And last thing, yet, you know
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get your heart right up, and tracking your
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: heart rate isn't the way to go. It's such an
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: old school way. You know, if you want to go
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: for a run, you're probably getting to get your heart
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: rate over forty one forty. I guarantee it in fact.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: But you know, if you just got to listen to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: your body and ask yourself how you're feeling as you're
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: moving through it, and you know, and that goes the
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: same for like jumping movements and you know, cardio or
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: hit workouts, like you could still go to all the
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: classes that you like, just modify and listen to your body.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love your tidbit about it's a great
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: time to try a strength training program under the supervision
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: of an expert, right, So, especially if this is something
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: that's new for you. While it might be tempting just
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: to go tackle some you know, on demand strength workout
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: you find online, at the very least find one that's
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: targeted toward pregnancy, and ideally you would go seek out
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: that qualified expert to give you that individualized feedback customization
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: for you and your body, which can be so helpful
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: during this time when whether it's your first pregnancy or
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: your sixth pregnancy, things are going to be different.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know that from experience because my body
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Now I'm like, wait, what this is so different than
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the first time around.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: So you have a luna, how old is she.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Know she's sixteen months, wait, maybe seventeen seventeen months.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Look at her just she's just growing rapidly.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: She's a ball of energy, absolutely adorable if I do
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: say so myself. You have a luna and talk us
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: through what the aftermath was like for you, kind of
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: rediscovering and getting acquainted with your body after pregnancy.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's funny because you talk a lot about
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: pregnancy and working out and it's so important to move
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: whenever you're pregnant, but then postpartum is actually the time
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: you you want to be delicate and you want to
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: take care of yourself and you don't want to just
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: jump into the routines. And so for me, it was
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: very humbling to realize, oh I can't do the same
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: stuff that I was and oh I am peeing myself.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: That means I probably should be going to pelvic floor
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: therapy and doing all the things. And so that was
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: so humbling for me because I think, especially as a
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: fitness person, you know, I've expected to I don't want
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to use the phrase bounce back because that word to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: me just kind of like I or that phrase. I
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: just feel like you just don't bounce back, you know
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really happen that way. You know, you have
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: a brand new life with a brand new human. Things
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: are so different, and it's all about adapting to your
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: brand new life, but not forgetting who you were before,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: you know. And so I had to just adjust to
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: everything that I had. You know, I wasn't sleeping. I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: have to take care of this baby. I can't get
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: my early morning workouts in because I'm probably going to
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: be feeding. You know, I'm not as strong as I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: used to be, and I just had to remind myself
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: that that is okay, you know. But as I started
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to get my routine, and you know, I feel like
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: it's around four to six months where you're you can
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: kind of do things on your own again without your
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: baby just being like on you literally every second of
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the day. I had to remember all the things that
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I love to do, whether it be working out or
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: reading and meditating, and have to be able to communicate
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: that to my partner or you know, your nanny or
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: whoever you have to help to be able to take
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: that time for yourself. So that's so important. I had
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: to remember all the things that I loved before to
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: make sure that I was doing them still. So I
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: didn't forget who I was.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: That grace that you speak of.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's challenging for a lot of women to
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: find that, especially today with you know, all that is
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Instagram and the highlight reel and TikTok and et cetera.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Were bombarded with these unrealistic expectations and images of what
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: isn't normal right of that quote unquote bounce back. So
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: for you, did you have a hard time getting to
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: this place of grace or do you feel like you
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: really landed there kind of from the get go.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: No, I think I had a hard time. You know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: in the beginning, it was very positive. You know, like
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: my husband is one of the most chill people, and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I'm very very lucky because he is such a great
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: dad and he loves being a dad and he loves
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: taking care of a luna. So I have been able to,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you know, be able to just hand a luna over
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to him and just take time for myself. But there
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: were times where I would just start crying for no reason.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I remember just being at the Apple studio and I'd
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: just be sitting there and just be like, and I
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: just don't even know why I was crying, you know, like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: there are just so many hormones and finding that grace
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: was hard. But you know, finding that community of other
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: moms that I could commiserate with, just to know that
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I felt what I was feeling was normal was so important.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: So for anyone that is going through that, I don't
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: want to say postpartum depression for myself, but maybe more
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: of the baby blues is just to find somebody else,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: even just one person or two people that are just
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: going to help you just get through that, talk through it,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you know, other moms around the same age, you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: moms that have gone through it, because that's that was
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: really helpful. Like my mom was a single mom and
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: she barely remembers what the first six months were and
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: so it was it was hard to talk to her
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: about it, you know. And I was so lucky to
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: have so many moms in my life that I could
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: talk with and be there for me, and it was
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: that's the number one thing is the community.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you, where did you
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: find that community for someone who may be seeking their own?
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was fortunate enough to have other women
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: at work that already had kids, and so that was
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: very helpful. But you know, even just social media, you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: just posting the real life things that are happening, and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I was able to get people to be I just
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: post a question like, Hey, is anyone ever blah blah
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: blah blah, and you'd get so many moms just be like,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, yes, I can't. I remember that time,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: you know, and just knowing that other people felt that
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: way just made me feel better, you know. But I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: know that there are Facebook groups out there, and just
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: finding these different mommy and me groups, you know. I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: went to music classes and stuff like that, and you
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: meet so many parents there. So I think that there's
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: so many opportunities to find that community. You just have
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to go seek them, whether it's on Facebook or Instagram.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love that, you know, going to music
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: classes something obviously not surprising to me knowing you and
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: your background with music.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Is that something that you like to share with Luna? Oh?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, Actually it's so cute. I bought a piano out here,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: like a real, like upright piano, and I just love
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to have her sit and press the keys. And the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: other day I was so excited. Nick was like, why
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: are you What's going on? Because I just heard a
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Luna pressing the keys and she was like that that
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: that like singing with them, and I was like, oh
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: my gosh, she's trying to sing, she's trying to find
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: her pitch. It's been really fun. I just love I
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: just love showing her music. I mean, Nick Will really
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: wants her to be an athlete, and I just, you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I want her to do whatever she wants to do.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: And I think she'll be. I think she's gonna be
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a pretty athletic, but I think she'll also have that
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: artsy side of her.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I know that you love to work out with
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: her in the area, and you relocated to Texas, which
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: was a big choice for you and your husband. Talk
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: to me a little bit about that choice, relocating and
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: what that's been like for you.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Nick is from Texas and we had talked
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: about at some point in our lives, like want to
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: be closer to family. You know, LA is very expensive,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: as a lot of people know, and Nick also wants
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: like five billion kids. I'm good with like two or three,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: so you know, having a large house in La is
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: like very expensive, and so it was something we thought about.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: And you know, the Apple job was keeping me in
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: La and then at some point I was like, you
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm not sure if this is for me anymore.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I'd like to, you know, I'd like to move on.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And so at the same time when I was deciding
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to leave, Nick actually got offered a job out here,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: and so we were like, hey, this is kind of
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: perfect timing. So we just decided to like straight up
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: pick up and move. And we literally had to like
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: pack a twenty six foot U haul with all our
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: gim equipment, like all my strong friends had to come help,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: because you know, every single moving company was going to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: charge a buttload of money to move some like six
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: hundred pound equipment. So it was fun, like we actually
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: have space, you know, we have a we have like
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: almost half an acre, a big, you know, big garage
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: for our gym. So it's fun to have a Luna
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: just be able to you know, play around in there.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: And I love being able to imagine what it's going
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: to be like when her brother is here and them
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: playing in the backyard together. So you know, it's all
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like that white picket fence stream, you know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you have like your family, just being able to run
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: around in the backyard and we have our pool, and yeah,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I just know that that probably wouldn't have been possible
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: in LA for what we want at least or at
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: least not anytime soon.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Relocating can come with its fair share of challenges. What
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: would you say one of the biggest challenges is for
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: you at this.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Point sounds silly, but the food, Like I just love food,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: but no, in La, you know, there it's so diverse
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and food there it's just like anything that you want
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: is right there. And you know, Asian food even just
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: bubble tea, all the things that I love. But then
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: also like really healthy food, you know, like it's been
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: really challenging being pregnant and having a toddler, and you
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: know sometimes if we're just tired and we just want
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: to order like takaya, we can't order takaya. You know.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: We have to like make our food if we want
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: something healthy, or we have like very limited in options
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: where we live. We are lucky we do have some,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: but it's not nearly the same as LA. So that's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: like a more of a funny note on you know
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: what I miss and what I'm missing out on. But
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: there are just a lot of things as far as
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: like all my friends are in LA. Like I really
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: thought that LA was where I was going to be
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: for life. And all my friends from Chicago live in LA,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you know, all my best friends, Like it was kind
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: of like my whole little pod in Chicago all moved
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: to LA and then I moved there and we were
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: all complete. And now I'm gone, you know, So that's
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: been that's been really hard because I miss them a lot.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: And then all the friends that I made at Apple,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Like when I first decided to leave, I was like, well,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: it's okay because I'm still going to see them all
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the time, and you know, we're going to be able
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: to hang out more because I'm not going to be
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: working as much, and you know, and then we decided
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to move, and then I was like, oh, man, like
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I miss everybody, and that was really hard and it's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: still hard. But you know, I'm so grateful that we
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: have FaceTime. We have work that brings me to travel
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: to LA all the time, so I'm still able to
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: see all my friends. But those have been the biggest challenges.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: But you know, family is everything to me. And the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: fact that I have my whole family and my dogs
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: and everyone here has been.
• 30:43
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and no. Like I was very lucky over
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  Speaker 1: the past three months. This month has been really slow
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  Speaker 1: that's been nice. But I know that now I'm like
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  Speaker 1: want to travel all the time. Like I have a
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  Speaker 1: Oh? I was at home. I Oh, I knew it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: And you know what, it's wild because the aura ring
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: is the reason why I knew I was pregnant.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Tell me about it.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I had my body temperature stay up for like over
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: a week, but I knew I wasn't sick. I felt
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: really good, and I knew at that point i'd missed
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: my period. And I was like huh. And then I
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: remember staying. I was like, oh, I don't remember where
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: we were, but I was standing somewhere and I was like,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take a test when I get home.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: And then I went in the bathroom and I took it,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and I remember being like oh, because at that point,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: we weren't like trying trying. We were just kind of like,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: okay if it happened, like we wanted another one soon,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: but we just didn't know when it would happen, especially
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: since we'd just moved. And I just remember like having
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the little strip and I like walked into the kitchen,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I saw Nick, and I stuffed it in my pants
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: because I didn't know. I wanted to surprise him, you
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: know how. I wanted to tell him. So I stuck
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: into my pants and I was like, I don't know
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: what to do. And then I eventually just like was like, hey,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I need to show you something. And then I like,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I think I put it on an element wrapper and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, here, he need some elements and he
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: was like what, Like, I think that morning I gave
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: him an element already and he was like, why does
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: she keep giving me elements?
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Why is she pushing electrolytes on me, even you don't electrolytes.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: We're in Texas now. But yeah, so it was very
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: exciting because you know, it was like we knew we
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: wanted to happen soon, but it wasn't like we were
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: like waiting for it, you know.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and a boy and a boy.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, Nick is so excited.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: So what would you say? What would you say?
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: From the last pregnancy, Some of the biggest learnings were
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: that you're taking with you right now in terms of
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: taking care of you and your body.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the first trimester, just rest like it's okay, you're
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: gonna feel like shit, you know. I remember the first
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: time during that first trimester, I was like, uh, I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: don't think I could ever do this again, Like this sucks.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: And then magically, you all of a sudden feel better
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: sometime in the second trimester. So I gave myself a
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: lot of grace this second time around, when every time
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I felt like crap, I was like, it's okay, I'm
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: going to feel better. I'm going to feel like I
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: knew that there was a light at the end of
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: the tunnel. During except for like the first first time through,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I really was like I don't think I can do
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: this again, Like this sucks. So just knowing that second
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: time through is it made it a lot easier. But
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: the other thing I had to remember was that movement
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: always is going to make me feel better, like always,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: like no matter what, movement is going to make me
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: feel better. And also the mindfulness and meditation like that's
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: been a big thing for me and again like helped
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: me through that forty one hours of labor. And so
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: this time round taking care of a toddler, like you know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I've told you that I let time pass and I
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: don't even know what week it is, but I've had
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: to make sure that I stay connected to the baby
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: in my belly and making sure that I'm very mindful
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: and not just like going through the motions, but staying
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: very connected to the journey because I think that really
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: helped me through my first try or first pregnancy, and
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I can through this
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: one too, Like, and there's also like everything that I'm feeling,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I know the baby feels, and like this time around,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: like I'm so like, oh I'm so tired. Ah, oh
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: my gosh, the dogs are annoying. Da da da dah,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and it was just like last week where I told Nick,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I need to be
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: more patient with the dogs because I don't want him
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: to feel that, you know. And I was starting to
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: like realize and remember, like I was so chill when
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I was with the Luna, but this time around, I'm
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a little more anxious because I'm taking care of a
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: toddler and I have these like three crazy dogs running
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: around everywhere. Yeah, it's just one of those things where
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: now I'm really trying to remember, like the baby's going
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: to feel everything I'm feeling, and I want to make
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: sure that I'm very present.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Two things to double click on.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: The first thing to double click on is you said
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: that your mindfulness practice happit helped you during that extensive labor.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Can you elaborate on that?
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, so I actually learned about hypno birthing during my
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: third trimester.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Educate me.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Yes. So, hypno birthing was started by this woman, I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: think her name is Marie Mungone and it's, you know,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: supposed to be targeted towards women that want a natural birth.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I am someone that doesn't even like take ibuprofen. Like
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I'm just like I'll just want an element and I'm
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: good and some water.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: You know, if I have a headache like wind backs, yeah,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: element exactly.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: So yeah. So the whole thing is is like you're
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: meditating and relax relaxing during your birth, and you know
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: it's supposed to get you through the surges and get
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: you through the pain. And so I learned about it,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: but I didn't actually take a course. I just read
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the books and I learned. I did the meditations. I
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: had a meditation labor playlist, and I went through twenty
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: four hours of labor without anything. And I was going
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: through back labor, which is whenever their their head is
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: facing your stomach and so or sorry they're they're they're
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: belly to belly, so they're facing up and so then
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: their heads every time there's a contraction, it just jams
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: on your sacrum. And so it was very, very very
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: painful for me. But I went through a long time
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: without that epidural and I had I not swollen my service.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I ended up swelling swelling. Had I not swell been swollen,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I think I would have been able to push her
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: out without it. But my doctor was like, you're swelling
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: a lot, and we need you to relax. If you
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: don't relax like you're, we're probably gonna have to cut
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: you open, and I know you don't want me to
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: do that, so let's give you some benadryl and then
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: you relax. And you know, I don't even know how
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: much time went by. I mean, obviously forty one hours,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: but I was able to push her out eventually without
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: a c section, and I I I can definitely occur
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: at the hypno birth thing, but this time around, I'm
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: actually taking a real, actual course and learning a lot.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: We're in the third week and I'm learning from a
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: fellow trainer, Taylor Walker Sinning, and she actually had gone
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: through two hypno birthing water berths, so it's kind of
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: fun to learn from her. We'll see how it goes
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: this time. I mean, the biggest thing is just that
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I just want the baby to be here healthy. It's
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: okay if I have to get an epidural or whatever happens,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: but you know, I'm definitely want to Like it sounds weird,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: but I want to feel everything. I want to be
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: there and then you know, be really present and everything
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: that's happening.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, one of my good friends she was
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: talking to me about how being a runner really helped
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: her prepare for the entire birth process, because she really
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: did equate the entire scenario to running a marathon, right
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: And in her mind, it's like, if I can endure
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: that sort of pain for four plus hours or you know,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: in an ideal scenario sub four hours for many, then
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I know that I can handle whatever comes my way
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: here and being able to talk to yourself, which brings
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: me to that other thing that I wanted to double
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: click on, which was the sentiment that we are the
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: person that talks to ourselves the most in any given day.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: And so your takeaway about.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Wanting to make sure that you are speaking to the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: dogs a certain way, having you know, a little bit
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: more patience with them because you don't want that to
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: rub off on your baby, will It's like, okay, but
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: also what about how these thoughts, this restlessness, whatever is
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: happening there rubs off on you?
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Right? Like how do you want to feel?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: And are you acting or speaking to yourself in a
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: way that helps you get to where you want to be?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Like that's everything right there, you know,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Like I just want to make sure, like there's so
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: many times when I'm tired, like sleep is everything. If
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I'm tired, I'm cranky and I'm going to be impatient.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: But you know, I just make sure that I'm communicating
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: to myself. I communicate to Nick. I also communicate to
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Nick with how I want to show up, and he'll
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: remind me. He's like, is that I don't think that's
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: the way you want to be And I'm like, uh,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: you're right, you know, And I think that it's definitely
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: second time around, it's been harder to be more patient
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: with myself. You know. We had a lot of changes
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: in the past four months, like being in a new house.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not with my friends anymore. We don't have a
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: full time nanny like we did in La. We have
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: like part time help. We do have Nick's family here,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: but you know, they all work full time. So it's
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: like I'm a mom, I'm working, and I'm constantly just
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: trying to be zen and it's hard. It's very hard,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and I think that it's important to admit that it's hard,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: but also to know that I'm strong enough to to
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: endure and to be patient, and that I also have
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: to do the work every single day. You know, I
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: have to meditate. I have to, even if it's three minutes.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I have to take those breaths for myself. I have
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: to show love to myself so I can show up
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: really well for Nick and Aluna and the future.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Babe, the future babe.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I love what you just said about communicating how you
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: want to be to your partner and having grace when
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: your partner reminds you of what you told them that
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: you want. And I think that that can be a
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: really beautiful tool, not only to use, obviously in this case,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: within a romantic relationship, but to use within platonic relationships
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: or family relationships as a method of accountability. Right, So,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: if you have a certain goal that you're after, maybe
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: we're talking a lot about mindfulness here. You said even
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: three minutes. If you're doing or you're aiming to do
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: three minutes of mindfulness work a day and it's not happening,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: and you bring that up again with someone who you
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: had stressed that this was an important thing to you,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: then you need to be open to that feedback that
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: someone might come back to you with and say, remember
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: when you told me that this is important to you,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: and be willing to receive that.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes, one, yeah, I mean. And that's
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: why accountability and having those people around you that you
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: know will hold you accountable is so important. And it
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a romantic partner, you know, having
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: those friends. I feel like, Emily, I feel like you
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: are probably that you're a really good friend in that way.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like if I were to tell you something,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: you'd be like, Okay, I'm gonna hold you. I'm gonna
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: hold you to that.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: But Tina, well you're like, let me like talk you
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: up for a second. You are probably one of the
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: ultimate hype women in my life. Like there I will
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: be I don't know, cleaning my apartment on Tuesday afternoon,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: and I will have not spoken to you in I
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: don't know, maybe two months, and all of a sudden,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere, I have a minute and a half
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: voice note from Bettina telling me how much that she
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: loves me and supports me.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: God is this you?
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: God?
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: How did you know that I needed this at this
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: very exact moment. You always find me in my feelings.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I love that. Oh, it makes me so happy. I'm
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: so glad that you like my voicemails or voice notes.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: You're literally the only person that can send me a
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: voice note and it won't induce anxiety for me because
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I know that it's going to be like kind and
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: compassionate and wonderful. But anyone else, whoever wants to send
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: me a voice note, please don't.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Just kill me, like call me so.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I can react to you, because I don't love the
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: like opportunity of just dropping that somewhere.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, yep, yep, I get.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Don't bomb me with how you feel about something like.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Let let's have a comversation about how we both feel.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Please please Do they give you anxiety?
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Do you? Voice n'tes not give you anxiety?
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: It depends on who they're from.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, see, yeah.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: It depends on who they're from. I have a few
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: friends that we like go back and forth on voice
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: notes because it's like one of those things where we
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: know we can just leave it and then we're good.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: But then there's somewhere I'll get a random voice note
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, huh uh huh, I don't I don't.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Know if the wall is See you have the voice
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: notoe anxiety too.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: You understand where I'm coming from, ye, like, can we
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: just talk on that though for just a second, about
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: the concept of lifting other people up and supporting others.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: You know, I admire you because you truly, like fully
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: grasp the beauty that is the opportunity to lift others up,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: knowing that doing that doesn't, you know, dull your own
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: light or mean that there's not the same opportunity available
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: to you and whatever it is that you're in pursuit of.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Do you feel as though that was a lesson that
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: you learned over time, this beauty of being somebody else's cheerleader,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: or where do you stand on that?
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting that you asked that, because you're right,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I think that I wasn't always like that. You know,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I've been someone that's independent because I've had no choice
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: but to be independent. You know, my mom was a
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: single mom. I had to figure everything out on my own.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: When I was in the band, I was trying to
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: figure everything out on my own, trying to figure out
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: if I want to play music, do all this stuff.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: And then you know, I found fitness, and then I
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: had like this stage of like imposter syndrome. So I'm
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: always trying to prove myself, you know, I was always
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: trying to trying to be that smartest person in the room,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: even though I had no idea what I was talking
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: about or was still learning. But as time went on,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I just realized, like community is everything, and you're not
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: going to know everything. And you know, the more that
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: you can celebrate other people, the more you can learn,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the more you can feel their energy, and the energy
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: you give to them is the energy you're going to
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: get back, and you know that's just good for everybody
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: all around. And so I just learned that over a
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: span of however many years, and it just kind of
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: came naturally. You know, I wanted to be everyone else's
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: cheerleader because you know, so many people are bringing each
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: other down in their own heads, you know, and they
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: might not even be talking to people or you know,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: saying it to someone's face, but you know they're in
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: their own little world, like thinking this about somebody. And
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I just knew that the more I could celebrate others,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the more that I'll have a big team and a
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: big community. And you know that, like if I ever
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: need someone just to pick me up, I know that
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I'll have people around me to do that.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: It's like the energy that you give is the energy
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: that you'll receive. It's been a really big thing for
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: me over the last six months, just this concept of
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: if you want love, then you have to give love,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: you have to radiate love. Whatever you want back is
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: something that you have to be willing to give.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, it's so funny because I was even thinking
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: about that on social like sometimes. Like actually, I was
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: just listening to our last episode and I was talking
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: about how I never scroll on social and I was like, yeah,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I usually just check my friends, but nowadays I'm just
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: like that, I'm just finding myself mindlessly scrolling because it's
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: just like, well, how it's actually how I relax now.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: But what I do is I try like every time
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: i'm scrolling, I just like everybody's thing because I'm like, hey,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: everyone deserves ake, you know, Like, so look I might
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: not watch the thing all the way, but I'm like
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: this person deserves it, you know, And I just think
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: the more you can celebrate that, you know, It's it's
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: so cheesy, but you know, like there's so much to
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: go around love and energy and why not give it?
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Yo?
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: But what a good example or clear picture that you
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: are following things on social that you want to give
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: that energy to and that actually do make you feel
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: good because I feel as though there are probably people
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: listening to this that wouldn't necessarily want to like everything
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: that's in their feed. So whatever you've done to construct
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: and like carefully curate your feeds seems to be working
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so well as a lot of baby stuff,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of baby stuff.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: But now that you're pregnant with number two, of course
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: you're you're liking all of those things exactly. So what
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: excites you right now aside from baby number two?
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: So I think now that I'm a free agent again.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm working with Nike. You know, Nick and
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  Speaker 1: I have created lineup with us where we're able to
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  Speaker 1: unite our knowledge of training. You know, he's a performance
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  Speaker 1: coach and I've trained the everyday person, and so we
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to create content that conserve people, that's accessible, and
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: it's inexpensive, and it's going to be something that people
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: can do anywhere. And that's been really exciting for me
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  Speaker 1: because I've been able to kind of do it the
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  Speaker 1: way that I want to do it. I'm not partnering
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  Speaker 1: with a brand. I'm not partnering with anyone else except
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: for my husband. So we're kind of doing it the
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: way that we want. And you know, if it's not
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: for you, it's okay. You know, if it's not your
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: learning style, that's okay. But even better if you love
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: the programs, if you love the workouts and all the
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: things that we're bringing on there. So that's been very exciting.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: We have a bunch of other stuff that we're working on.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I love being able to just continue to explore the
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: world and see what else I can do. It's just fun.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's why, you know, I felt trapped before.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm like, Okay, what else can I do? It's exciting.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: And I love your you know, opportunity growth mindset here
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: in that you can say it's both. It was so
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: beneficial for you to have that family to fall back
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: on at Apple and those relationships to build, but now
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: being back into this space that was your comfort zone
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: for so long, you can also find that sense of comfort,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: that sense of reward and excitement here too. And you know, again,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: this just goes back to you learning about yourself. Right,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: So for anyone else who may be interested in trying
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: their own thing A Lah what you're doing, not necessarily
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: needing to be in the fitness space, but in whatever
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: industry they're in, What pieces of advice or tips do
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: you have to offer them for them on their journey?
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: You know what, You just got to do it. I
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people sit here and they write
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: out their plan, which is very important in all your ideas,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: but then you sit on it for way too long.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Like there are so many people that are
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: just already taking off and doing things because they try
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: and maybe they failed, but they learned and then they
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: were able to do it again and do it better.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: So instead of just waiting, you just got to go.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Just got to do it.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Just got to do it, you know.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I think the lead quote on last week's episode with
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Jessica Robertson from Together is there are no failures, there's
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: only lessons.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: H Yes, it's so true.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: I had another episode not all that long ago talking
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: about the fear of success and how so many of
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: us actually are really good at failing. I mean, it
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean that the blow hurts any less, but
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: it's something that we've become accustomed to because it truly
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: is such a part of everything from personal to professional.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: But when it comes to success, that opens a door
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: to a lot of unknown that we may be completely
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: unfamiliar with. Right, whether that's exposure or just unlocking a
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: different level of your own potential, those things can be
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: super scary, right.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Yes, but you know you just got
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: to try it and like it. Just like everything, it's repetition.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: You know, the more you can do it, the more
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I got this, I'm going to get
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: up and do it again.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: You know, I feel like it was just yesterday.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, when you announced that you were joining
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: the team at Apple, And I don't have you know,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: the exact wording at my fingertips right now, but I
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: remember that it was literally like dream job unlocked. Now,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: when you think about your career thus far and perhaps
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: something that you're the most proud of, what comes to mind.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Staying true to myself no matter what, and you know,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: making sure that whatever I'm doing is serving me and
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: what I want for my day to day. And you know,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: that job was a dream job at the time, and
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: I think it served its purpose in my life. But
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: you know, things change and things happen, and you know,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: as time went on, I was like, Okay, dream job unlocked,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: next step, what's next?
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the next dream? Right?
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: And I think that that goes kind of hand in
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: hand with the sentiment that it's okay to change the plan, right,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Like I to have gone through so many different moments
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: of feeling like really strong in my purpose and in
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: my career despite being in different roles. I remember when
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I was the fitness editor itself, like literally at the time,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: my absolute dream job.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: But now I cannot imagine going to do.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: That job every day, like it would be nothing like
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: what I would feel would be right for me in
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: this moment. But I'm six years older now, and you
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: are soon to be a mother of two now, and
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: so with time, things change and people change, and to
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: have the grace with yourself as you change is a
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: really great opportunity.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you just have to enjoy the journey, every
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: single minute of it. You have to enjoy it, embrace
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: it because it's all a part of who you are
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: and it's a part of your story.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Right now, when someone goes to your social media, they
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: see a happy mama with a cute kiddo, another one
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: on the way gearing up with your new platform line
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: up with us. When you look in the mirror, what
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: is it that you see looking back at you?
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: I see a strong Filipina that has so many opportunities
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: to inspire not only other people, but her daughter, her child,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: her husband, and most importantly, herself. You know, I love
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: being able to surprise myself, and every time I look
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: in the mirror, I'm like, wow, yeah, I was capable
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: of doing that, and you know, it hasn't been an
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: easy journey, but I'm super proud of everything that I've done.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: I love the pride that you have for your heritage.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: What do you think is a part of that that
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: you are most excited to pass along to your children?
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I think the food. The food.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Back to the food, It's okay. I had a Christmas
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: tree tree. I had a Christmas tree decorating party the
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: other day, and you want to know, every single ornament,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: for the most part, that was gifted to me had
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: something to do with food.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: All of it.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: No shame, That's so funny. No, you know, besides the food,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I think the pride, you know, just being really proud
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: of being Filipino. And I don't even know what it
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: is about Filipino as being proud of who they are.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know, there's just so much. I feel like
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: when you meet a Filipino, you're just like, oh, you're
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: a Filipino. Oh my gosh, like and like people always
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: connect that way. Like even if you're not Filipino and
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: you have a friend that's Filipino and you mean no,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: they we're like, oh my gosh, I have a friend
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: that's Filipino. I don't know what it is about being Filipino,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: but it's there's something that you just love about it,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: and you you know, I think growing up I wasn't.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't embrace it as much as I do now,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: but I want to make sure that my children do,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: even though they're half You know, we speak to a
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: luna in Tagalog, the language of the Philippines, all the time,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: and she only knows Nick and I is Tatai and
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Nanai which is mom and dad. So you know, we
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: just want to be able to embrace her, to embrace
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: it as much as she can. And you know, I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: tell my mom to speak to her in Tagalog and
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: hopefully she'll like the food.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: I love that sentiment of like being so excited to
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: see everyone. I think we should normalize that for just
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: like normal interaction, regardless.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Of your heritage.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: That's true, That's very true.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: Can we all just be genuinely kind and excited when
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: we see one another instead of like sad and dreary
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: and cold and walking around with eight thousand scarves as
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: I am right now in New York.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: That would be great.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so cold, so gold.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, well we are winding down here right now, my friend,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to offer yourself a piece of
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: advice looking back on getting reacquainted with your post baby
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: body after number one, what do you tell yourself during
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: that hurdle moment?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: It's okay to cry, cry, cry, cry, let yourself cry,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: accept all the hugs, accept all the food, except all
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: the love from everyone around you. And you know, the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: biggest thing is just to remind yourself all the things
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: that you've gone through and how worth it it's been.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: When you're looking at your baby.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: We love it. I love it. I'm so glad that
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: we were able to do this. Betina.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: How do the hurdlers fall along with you? How can
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: they line up with you? Give us the details?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Yep, you can find me at Betina, Gozo betinagozo dot
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: com and line up with us dot com and uh yeah,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: that's all of them.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: I think that's all of them.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I'm over at Hurdle Podcasts and at Emily a Body
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: another hurdle conquered.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.