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Jags Drive Time: Thursday, December 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jaguars. Did you don't Jack Jack Morris, did you go
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps that Jago says, Actually
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  Speaker 1: Jaguarris Drive Time starts right now. You love this game.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta go out there and play this game like
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  Speaker 1: when you were, you know, a little kid, you know
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  Speaker 1: where no one was watching, no one's around, and you
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  Speaker 1: were just as competitive. And it's just as you know
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  Speaker 1: and have fun and um, those are the things that
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  Speaker 1: you go through, um when you have a season like
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  Speaker 1: we have which has been disappointing. Good morning, and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Thursday Drive Time, brought to you by the Fields
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  Speaker 1: Automotive Group in land Rover on Atlantic here in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: A proud member of the Fields Auto Group, Bryan Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and Joe Don't Cold all here for you this morning
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  Speaker 1: as we get sent for the Jaguars and Redskins on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought Doug's point was well made, and that
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  Speaker 1: is Look, you're not playing for the playoffs at this point,
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  Speaker 1: and you talked about being a pro and playing for
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  Speaker 1: the check, but it's not the same if you will
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  Speaker 1: play for the love of the game as well. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I say all the time Pro Bowl, it's about the
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  Speaker 1: money it is, which means you come and you play hard,
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  Speaker 1: you prepare well every single week. But when you take
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  Speaker 1: the field, even if there's nothing on the line, even
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  Speaker 1: if you're playing a quarterback in Josh Johnson, who last
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  Speaker 1: started a game in last played in a game, you
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  Speaker 1: act like you're playing Alex Smith. You play like you're
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  Speaker 1: playing Joe Tisman. For goodness sake, whoever, whatever it takes,
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  Speaker 1: you better bring your love with the game. Otherwise it's
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  Speaker 1: very visible to people. Oh yeah, and it's very obvious
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  Speaker 1: that Doug has a very strong love for the game.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the first time he's pointed out that this
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  Speaker 1: is what this team is playing for right now. He's
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  Speaker 1: always talked about being a pro probably the past month
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  Speaker 1: or so, but the term playing for the love of
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  Speaker 1: the game, that's the first I heard him say that.
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  Speaker 1: There's a guy that I work out with in the
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  Speaker 1: morning who is a Patriots fan, right so he's what
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  Speaker 1: is he's forty so half his life, the Patriots have
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  Speaker 1: won the division, they won five Super Bowls. I asked
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  Speaker 1: him the other day, do you understand that most people's
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  Speaker 1: experience is nothing like yours never will be. You have
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  Speaker 1: the greatest run in NFL history, and some of their
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  Speaker 1: Steelers fan saying, hey, you know what about the seventh
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  Speaker 1: it's not the same. It isn't the same. Um. When
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady retires the Patriots, if their magic doesn't continue,
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  Speaker 1: and there's you gotta think that's gonna end it something.
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  Speaker 1: They'll go through this up and down stuff and you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have seasons like this. Almost every player goes through this.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I've got a headline coming up later in
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  Speaker 1: the show of a player who's got the opposite side
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  Speaker 1: of that, who's never been in the playoffs, and the
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  Speaker 1: name will surprise you. Um, you must bring it every
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  Speaker 1: single week. And you guys like Calais Campbell, who played
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  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, and who are going through this.
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  Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson right, who has played at a very high level,
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  Speaker 1: never played in the super Bowl, but has played at
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  Speaker 1: a very high level in the playoffs, and he's now
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  Speaker 1: on a team that is he's been through so many
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  Speaker 1: ups and downs. Absolutely, And that's by the way. Our
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  Speaker 1: Twitter poll today Jags Drive Time poll on Twitter asked
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  Speaker 1: you who's the best running back you've ever watched? Now,
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  Speaker 1: talking to a lot of the players in the locker room,
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  Speaker 1: younger than Fred. Adrian Peterson's name has come off. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: some of that is that they're playing their opponent this week. UM.
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  Speaker 1: For the older set, I put Jim Brown's name in there.
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  Speaker 1: Fred's obviously number one, UM at least on our poll today,
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  Speaker 1: and into me and then other you know who else
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  Speaker 1: is out of Danny and Tomlinson, who set the NFL
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  Speaker 1: record for most touchdowns in a season with thirty one.
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  Speaker 1: For running back, maybe Todd Durley is the guy who's
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  Speaker 1: having an amazing season out in Los Angeles or the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: We're asking you, who is the best running back you
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  Speaker 1: have ever watched? If my grandpa's watching, he's going Jim Brown.
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  Speaker 1: He's a huge Browns fan and he grew up tell
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  Speaker 1: me all about well Jim Brown. And Jim Brown was
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  Speaker 1: retired before I was born, so I never watched him,
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  Speaker 1: but I understand he's probably the greatest player to ever
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  Speaker 1: play the game. And people are going, what, let just
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  Speaker 1: do a little research on that one. Grandpa Sullivan, that's
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  Speaker 1: his vote there? You go? Alright? You yeah, texted me
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  Speaker 1: telling me he needs to vote. Uh, let's get the
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  Speaker 1: big things, all right. Philosophically speaking, is big thing when
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  Speaker 1: we were in the locker room yesterday and we were
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  Speaker 1: reading some articles that said, should the Jaguars wipe out
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  Speaker 1: their completely offensive system of running the ball pounding the ball,
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  Speaker 1: or should they go with a new approach and get
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  Speaker 1: a power running or a power quarterback and offensive weapons.
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  Speaker 1: So we asked the guys in the locker room what
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  Speaker 1: they thought of sticking with the system or creating a
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  Speaker 1: completely new one. You know, I was, I was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in here all we can watching film and um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting right for this week. And we had you know,
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  Speaker 1: a little practice Monday, which we normally don't, but it
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  Speaker 1: went a lot more you know, I think it went
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  Speaker 1: a lot more fluid and and was better with that
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  Speaker 1: weekend off because you kind of got to get a
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  Speaker 1: jump starting everything. I think the guys, you know, we've
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  Speaker 1: got a good group of guys in the locker room,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, I think we just gotta put it all together,
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  Speaker 1: keep working hard, you know, listening to the coaches, you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting our books, you know, the game plan, and go
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  Speaker 1: from there. We'll get down in the red zone. We're
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  Speaker 1: just not scoring a lot um and so you take
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  Speaker 1: some of those missed opportunities and you know, you're you
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  Speaker 1: can put more points on the board. We just you know,
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  Speaker 1: missed a lot of opportunities in the red zone. I
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  Speaker 1: think if we can, you know, try to get create it.
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  Speaker 1: It's supposed to play, which means you gotta do you know,
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  Speaker 1: loving guys have to do their job, you know, then
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  Speaker 1: you have better opportunity to score. You know, there's this
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  Speaker 1: narrative out there that the Jaguars are running this archaic
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  Speaker 1: Caveman era offense um and it's just not so. Now.
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  Speaker 1: They may look like it because they don't have the
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  Speaker 1: receivers that are blazing down the field and getting open.
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  Speaker 1: And Leonard for Net, has not been on the field,
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  Speaker 1: and the offensive line is beat up. But when you
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  Speaker 1: look at the Rams, when you look at the Chargers, uh,
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  Speaker 1: to an extent, the Bears, it's all based on running
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  Speaker 1: the ball with power, using play action, and throwing the
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  Speaker 1: ball down the field. The Rams are the best example
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  Speaker 1: of it. But even look at the Saints, right and
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Drew Brees is a wizard with the
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  Speaker 1: ball in his hands in the pocket, and Sean Payton
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  Speaker 1: has a lot of very clever and creative routes and
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  Speaker 1: ways to get guys open. But you've heard of Atlin
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  Speaker 1: Kamara right and market right. Um, that's a two headed
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  Speaker 1: monster and the threat of the run keeps everything in
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  Speaker 1: front of Drew Brees. The system that they have here
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  Speaker 1: needs to be refined. Tom Coughlin would tell you that,
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  Speaker 1: despite his ardent support two weeks ago when he was
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  Speaker 1: on the radio here locally in Jacksonville talking about belief
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  Speaker 1: in the system. If the Mahomes thing, that is the outliar,
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  Speaker 1: and I get it. Every you know, everybody wants to
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  Speaker 1: think that that's what's coming in the NFL. But look
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks at what defense has done. Um,
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  Speaker 1: did you see that the Bears uh? Not not the Bears.
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  Speaker 1: The Saints struggled big time, struggled mightily. They got beat
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  Speaker 1: by Dallas uh And until the third quarter they weren't
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  Speaker 1: doing anything. Defense was having an impact on that game.
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  Speaker 1: They couldn't score because of the defense. Bears defense Sunday
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  Speaker 1: Night against the Rams and this when the weather gets
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  Speaker 1: cold and the ball gets heavier and slipperier, more slippery,
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  Speaker 1: get the game changes. It goes back to those fundamental principles.
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  Speaker 1: You're if Kansas City has to throw the ball and
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  Speaker 1: score fifty four points. They will lose in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, Arrowhead Stadium can be as frigid
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  Speaker 1: as any place in the National Football League. Trust me.
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  Speaker 1: When the wind starts blowing off the Rockies and there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing to stop it for six hundred miles, by the
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  Speaker 1: time it gets to Kansas City, it's strong and it's
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  Speaker 1: cold in January. And by the way, Kareem Hunt is
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  Speaker 1: not on their roster anymore. Right, Spencer Ware is now injured.
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  Speaker 1: You have town. You are not going to be able
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  Speaker 1: to throw the ball every single play and expect to win.
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  Speaker 1: There's an outlier there with what they're doing, and it
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  Speaker 1: looks brilliant, and everyone knows Andy Reid is one of
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  Speaker 1: those great offensive minds. But this philosophy of run with
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  Speaker 1: power play great defense is absolutely a bedrock principle that
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  Speaker 1: will never be caveman. Can you run it better? Yes? Now,
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  Speaker 1: do you need to mix in a better passing game?
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  Speaker 1: How do you get there? Well, a a better quarterback
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  Speaker 1: that's not a system. That's a player. You need better
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  Speaker 1: bigger receivers. Those are players, not system. Then you need
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  Speaker 1: to mix in some clever um concepts and things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's where you go find an offense to coordinator and
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  Speaker 1: receivers go, well, you don't need receivers. Coach Keenan's very good,
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  Speaker 1: very good, but an offensive coordinator that can change those
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  Speaker 1: things around. It's little tweaks. It's two millimeters, not two
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  Speaker 1: turns of the wrench that will get you there. It's
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  Speaker 1: players that fix this thing. It's players, not plays. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's the system that works. And you go back to August,
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  Speaker 1: and I hate to bring up the injuries, but you
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  Speaker 1: go back to August when we saw that three to
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  Speaker 1: bring up because second about them, but forget them. There
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  Speaker 1: their excuses. But you go back to August in the
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  Speaker 1: third preseason game against the Falcons, and we saw the
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  Speaker 1: three backset and it was clever and it was unique
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  Speaker 1: and creative. And then you saw Bordle Sauce and Sfarian
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  Speaker 1: Jenkins and a few passes down the field of receivers
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  Speaker 1: and it looked like it was working and it looked
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  Speaker 1: like that clever game plan. And now you can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have the weapons to do it, you don't
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  Speaker 1: have the power to do it. I believe firmly that
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  Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett could do exactly. Yeah, you saw him try
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  Speaker 1: to do it and with the weapons he had, and
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  Speaker 1: then obviously the weapons perception is a big part of
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  Speaker 1: the perception was is that he ran this archaic offense.
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  Speaker 1: It's not true. It's not he ran to the players
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  Speaker 1: he had. Philosophically speaking, what the Jaguars want to do,
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  Speaker 1: the players that they have in place, it's the it's
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  Speaker 1: the foundation that they need. What they need is, as
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  Speaker 1: we said, some different players and some different concepts in
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  Speaker 1: the passing game, no doubt, um. But philosophically the ground
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  Speaker 1: right underneath their feet. It's a solid place to start,
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  Speaker 1: right And if Tom Coughlin is continuing to be here,
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  Speaker 1: I have a feeling that will still be the system
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  Speaker 1: if he has saying it. Yeah, one more thing, um,
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  Speaker 1: I get people now are labeling Doug Moron is running
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  Speaker 1: this caveman often. But he was with Sean Payton Andrew Bree.
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  Speaker 1: He knows these guys know what it is. That's not
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  Speaker 1: the way that they took what they had last year
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  Speaker 1: because they wanted to win right away and they did
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  Speaker 1: what they could do. Then, as you would expect, they
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  Speaker 1: doubled down on it to a degree because they went
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  Speaker 1: to the a f C championship game, right, and they said,
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  Speaker 1: we've got this window open, let's go. Dave Caldwell said
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  Speaker 1: at the combine, we're gonna try to finish this thing.
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  Speaker 1: They tried. It didn't work. Okay, Now go back around
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  Speaker 1: and figure out if you get the right quarterback, if
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  Speaker 1: you get the received 's the offensive line. They absolutely
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  Speaker 1: need to improve the offensive line. And there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: some guys. The right side is gonna be gone. You
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  Speaker 1: won't have a j Can or Jeremy Parnell here next year. Can.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a free agent Parnell broken down, older
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  Speaker 1: right tackle, who's gonna million Yeah, goodbye. That's the way
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  Speaker 1: that this league works. So um, I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: philosophically have to change everything. A couple of little turns
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  Speaker 1: on the wrench, a couple of players in there can
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  Speaker 1: fix this thing. But it is true. In the offseason
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be heavy offense, springing players. True, and
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  Speaker 1: you're going to have to to maneuver some things on
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  Speaker 1: defense with your salary cap because they're over right now,
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  Speaker 1: they're about thirteen million over the cap next year, and
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  Speaker 1: right now they've got about seven million they can swing
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  Speaker 1: back carry over. So you're about six million dollars roughly
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  Speaker 1: over the cap next year. Well, I think we all
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  Speaker 1: know Barry Church is not going to be back. There's
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  Speaker 1: six million right there. Now, you got to eat right now.
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  Speaker 1: You start moving some guys around and fixing it. You
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  Speaker 1: can get to a number that you can work with
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  Speaker 1: from there. But they're going to have to have a
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  Speaker 1: solid in and they're going to have to find a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft and a veteran free agent. See
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  Speaker 1: what they do, and then stick with the system. Well,
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  Speaker 1: tweak it. Understand that defense wins championships in January, so
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  Speaker 1: use the offense to get there in September, October, November.
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  Speaker 1: Let the defense play all right, big thing too, is
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  Speaker 1: two years left to prove it. We're talking about Leonard
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  Speaker 1: Forget for not here, two years left on his rookie deal.
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  Speaker 1: Let's look at the first two years of his season
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  Speaker 1: and see how he's done. So two thousand, seventeen, one
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  Speaker 1: thousand and forty yards and nine touchdowns, thirteen games played,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand, eighteen, three and fifty yards, four touchdowns, only
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  Speaker 1: played in six games, so obviously a draft off this season.
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  Speaker 1: But because of that injury, you don't really know how
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  Speaker 1: to compare it because of the hamstring well, and then
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  Speaker 1: there's been the off the field stuff. Well, the on
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  Speaker 1: the field stuff, which was the well, there's been some
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  Speaker 1: knucklehead moves here. And the reason I bring it up
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  Speaker 1: is Adrian Peterson's coming in and everyone's talking about what
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  Speaker 1: a great back, what a heritage back. This is a
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  Speaker 1: guy that we'll talk about for generations coming forward. You
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  Speaker 1: wonder whether you've got it that in for net. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we saw in Buffalo for three quarters what he's capable
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  Speaker 1: of doing. And there are players around the league that
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  Speaker 1: feel very strongly about the kind of player that he
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  Speaker 1: can be, Austin Severe and Jenkins being one of those guys. However,
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  Speaker 1: he's got two years to prove it. Otherwise you've got
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  Speaker 1: to draft into the running back. You've got to start
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  Speaker 1: thinking about how do we have this powered attack, how
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  Speaker 1: do we build the offense around play action? If he's
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  Speaker 1: not able to stay on the field, he's been difficult.
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  Speaker 1: He's a difficult guy to handle, right, And I go back,
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  Speaker 1: maybe this is a question for you. I go back
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  Speaker 1: to obviously early in Fred's career, where he was difficult
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  Speaker 1: at times, he was never never what about Adrian Peterson
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  Speaker 1: because I know he's played in the league for thirteen years.
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  Speaker 1: Always been a pro from what I know, from the
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  Speaker 1: beginning to the end. Always been a pro from what
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  Speaker 1: I know. So then you wonder, he's got two years
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  Speaker 1: and you see someone like say Kwon Barkley who has
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  Speaker 1: had no issues. You have two years to prove that
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  Speaker 1: you are the back. Look. I mean I was one
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  Speaker 1: of the proponents for them drafting him. You weren't here yet.
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  Speaker 1: Last year in February, UM we started our show dot
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  Speaker 1: com Live, and I right out of the gate, draft
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  Speaker 1: this guy. Draft this guy, draft the player that he is, UM.
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  Speaker 1: But he hasn't lived up to the number four overall billing,
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  Speaker 1: not at all. Todd Gurley, on the other hand, who
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  Speaker 1: is the central focal point of what they do in
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles that's so successful, Well, he has lived up
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  Speaker 1: to the building and he's been on the field, he's
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  Speaker 1: been able to stay healthy. It is a it's a
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  Speaker 1: combination thing. Yes, I get the hamstrip, I do not
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  Speaker 1: take that away from him. However, the way he's handled
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  Speaker 1: himself in the locker room in the community, he has
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  Speaker 1: to step up and be that guy. He's got to
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  Speaker 1: carry more of the load in both respects. He's got
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  Speaker 1: two years to prove that he is someone that they
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  Speaker 1: can build around, and he no longer has the repertoire
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  Speaker 1: of being the rookie and the new guy here and
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  Speaker 1: excuses of being young and new and you've been here
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  Speaker 1: almost two years now. He's got to become that feature guy, right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know over the last three weeks if you
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  Speaker 1: see a lot of that, although you hope you do
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  Speaker 1: so that going into the off season, because let's go
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  Speaker 1: back to July. He looked tremendous. He did. He came
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  Speaker 1: back to training camp ready to go, and maybe the
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  Speaker 1: injury sparked a lot of the other stuff. Who knows.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the focal points of the philosophy that
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  Speaker 1: we talked about in Big Thing one is number seven.
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  Speaker 1: And he has three games this year and then two
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  Speaker 1: years to prove he is that guy. It is true.
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  Speaker 1: I keep forgetting to go back to training camp when
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  Speaker 1: he came back. How many pounds lighter I think it was?
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  Speaker 1: He was the Yeah, I think that was a bit overstated.
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  Speaker 1: Guys I talked to, you know, but still like the sea. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just two thirty two. But let's mark it down
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  Speaker 1: at two. Yeah, you know what I mean, there's a
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  Speaker 1: little bad you want to make yourself yeah, um, but
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  Speaker 1: no doubt he was focused. Well, he looked at he
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  Speaker 1: was in great shape. There's no doubt about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And it's just to argue with that. But crazy how
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  Speaker 1: it's turned in just a season. Well, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about Jalen Ramsey yesterday and I think Jalen
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  Speaker 1: has had a terrific mom on the field. In the
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  Speaker 1: locker room. I mean, you can see him starting to
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  Speaker 1: blossom into the kind of player and leader that they need.
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  Speaker 1: In that locker room. He's showing, Um, they need that
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  Speaker 1: from Leondard now big time. Because last year you had
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: those two in a photograph and you said those are
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: the guys you can build around those two. Right now,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: you say twenty seven to the guy on offense, he
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: needs to take the kind of steps that Jalen has taken. Right,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: But you also looked at that photo at the time
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: and said, both of these guys need to grow. We
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: move forward. You're young, Yeah, they're young, there's time, but
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: it's he's a guy that that the focus will be
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: on in the offseason. Absolutely, all right, big thing three
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: is rebounders. We're looking at guys who may play elsewhere
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: or guys who are going to stay on this roster
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: but need to grow into a new role. So, Brian,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: you had a J boy in Brandon Linder as your
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: two guys. Two guys, um and look. Boy has had
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: a couple of really good games in the last few weeks.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: But even before he had the calf that cost him
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, he didn't look like the a
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: J boy from last year. Don't know what that was.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I know he wasn't here in the off season. You
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: know he had family issues. I know that he talked
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: about that he was dealing with. He didn't share him
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't need to. Um. He's a guy that
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: needs to go back his His cap number next year
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: is over fifth million. He's one of the highest paid
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: players on the team. He is one of your best
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: defensive players, and they need him to rebound from a
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: less than a J boy a caliber season. Last year
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: he was a Pro Bowler. This year he's not even
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: being mentioned. They need him. The other guy's Brandon Linder,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: who is a talented offensive lineman, one of the more
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: highly paid offensive lineman in the game. One point is
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: the highest paid center in the game. Um, they need
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: him to rebound it. Injury obviously cost him, but he
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: needs to come back and play at a very high
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: level because you can't replace everybody on the offensive line.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: You're getting to orwell back. You expect to have Cam
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Robinson bad. Maybe Eric Flowers plays a role for you
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: as well. You're gonna have to find a guard on
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the right side. You don't need to find a center
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: because you may need to find a guard and at tackle.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: You need Brandon Litter to come back and be the
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: lynchpin of your offensive one and I'm excited to see
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: how Brandon Linder responds to whoever the quarterbacks in the
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: meet because we know how close his relationship was with
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Blake and he's played with Blake for so many years now.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I'm curious to see because he was the leader on
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: that line, absolutely, so I'm curious to see how that relationship.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do about it, no input required,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Just go out and play. My two guys are to
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Shawn Gibson and Telvin Smut. Looking forward to Shaun Gibson.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: We know that Buried Church most likely will not be
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: here so that means that he's playing with Ronnie Harrison,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: and Ronnie Harrison has been playing at a hugely high level,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: but he's still a rookie. He still has a long
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: way to go, especially with on sportsman like penalties. We've
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: seen a few of them. He needs to clean those up.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: So Shaun Gibbs is gonna start playing more of a
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: leadership role in that secondary and he's gonna have a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: big year. He's gonna have to because he's got a
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: rookie with Ronnie Harrison be playing with and Telvin Smith.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: We know that he played at an all pro level
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: last season, and he hasn't looked up to the hype
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: that we set for him this season. Now with Myles
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Jack and Telvin, obviously they're a dynamic linebacker duo. But
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Telvin needs to have a bigger year because he still
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: has those leadership qualities in the locker room on the field.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: But we both have said that there's times where he's
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: not living up to the hype on the field. Well,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: let's keep in mind he's a pound line right, I mean,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I know that they listed starting weight of the season
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: year to twenty, but you know he struggles to keep
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the weight on. He is a playmaking linebacker, right. He's
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: a pick up the ball, return it for a touchdown,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: pick it off. That kind of guy gets the occasional
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: strip sack when they send him on the blitz, but
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: they didn't even do that much with him. He's a playmaker.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: He's got to have impact places because he's not a
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: fifteen tackle a game guy. He's not a two pounds
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: you won't last the season. He had the shoulder that
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: he had to deal with and played through in London
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: against Philadelphia. That slowed him down some after he came
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: back from that. You need him to be that ball
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: hawk nos for the ball kind of guy, which he
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: was last year. Right. And it's such a drop off
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: from this year because he made so many plays in
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. It was almost every single game we
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: were talking about. It was inevitable that you weren't going
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: to get quite as many, but you needed a few
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: more similar to a J boy and that in two
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: thousand seventeen that every game you were talking about some
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: kind of impact play. He made again the last few
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: weeks with a J. If you've watched him closely, it's
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: as if he's running the route for the receivers. He's
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: he is starting to show that two thousand seventeen form.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: It's just it's too late. You know. He's in the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: film room, that's for sure. Absolutely. They just need that
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: boy back on the fields next year. All right, we'll
• 19:05
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• 19:06
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• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I'm doing well, guys, Thanks for having me this morning. No,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Um what an interesting story that
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you've had to cover this week. Josh Johnson, who has
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: not played since two thousand and fourteen until last week,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: arguably signs to be a backup to Mark Sanchez, and
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's the starter. From your perspective,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: how much fun has it been to cover him this week? Yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: this has been quite quite a few weeks really for
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the Redskins. I mean, you look't even going back to
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Koy and it seems like every week they're trying to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: figure out how to prepare a new starter with new guards.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: It's just been quite a chaotic time for the offense.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: But this has been quite a week for for Josh Johnson.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't think you know he mentioned
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: even last week or just yesterday his press comments actually
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that you know, a week ago he was sitting on
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: his couch. He is not thinking he would ever be
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: in the NFL again. I mean, this is a guy
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: that signed with another football league to play with the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: San Diego Fleet. Um that he had to he he
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: had to rearrange his whole life essentially to get one
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: more shot in the NFL with the Redskins, and now
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: he's got it. He's basically said that this Steel is
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: kind of like going to Disneyland. I mean, everything right
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: now is kind of gravy in terms of what his
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: perspective is. So it was funny we didn't really even
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: get to ask him too much about playing the Jaguars.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: He was just kind of thrilled to be on the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: field at this point. So there's a lot of emotion
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: with him right now. But I think he's he's he's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: kind of started to figure out, all right, I'm actually
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: starting in a game this Sunday. I think it's it's
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: starting to wear off a little bit and now he's
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: starting to get into game mode. So the fourth quarterback
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: this season for the Redskins, how has the team responded
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: to all of that commotion and attempting to keep their
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: focus I'm sure still on their opponent. Yeah, you know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: it's been It's been pretty tough, I would say. I
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: think Alex Smith. The one thing that maybe doesn't get
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: talked about too much with him is just the leadership
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: that he brought to this team. I think it was
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: pretty apparent that from the day that he got here,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: it was immediately a sign that this was a professional
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: guy that everyone was going to be drawn to and
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and look up to. And I think he really did
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: bring this quiet calm demeanor to him to this team
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that I think really, you know a lot of people
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: gravitated towards and so when you lose a guy like that,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it does feel like there's been a void that hasn't
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: been able to be filled. I think there there aren't
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: a ton of leaders offensively on this team in terms
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: of what he was able to provide, and so it
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: has been a tough slide because, look, they they've lost
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: four in a row since uh, you know, he went
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: down in that Texans game, and it really just hasn't
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: been like an opportunity for this team to to kind
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: of rise up to the occasion in a lot of ways.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: So it's been tough, and I don't know how I think.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I think they responded pretty well to Josh Johnson in
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: that second half again the Giants, but it does seem
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: as though they they're gonna need somebody to step up
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: these last three games in terms of trying to really
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: rally this team together. I think that has been a
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: rough part for this team so far. Are they still
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: talking playoffs because six and seven has the Redskins on
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the bubble? Are the veteran guys, especially that defensive side
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: of the ball that is so talented. Are they still thinking, hey,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: maybe we can get something going here. It feels a
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: little split, you know. To be honest, I think the
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: defense um doesn't feel that way in some ways, just
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: because the defense really has been a tale of two
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: halves for them. Um. The first half they were so dominant,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: like you mentioned, and just the last four or five
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: games now it just feels like a lot of things
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: are missing with them, and you know, there's been a
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: lot of blame going around different different people, but offensively,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you know, you look at Adrian Peterson, he's been kind
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: of the biggest advocate for this team in terms of
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. You was mentioning yesterday, Look, we're still in
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: this thing, and you know, it's it's not over, and
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of scenarios right now where the Redpkins
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: make it in even if they only win two of
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the next three, potentially even one, which is pretty tricky,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: but ideally they would like to win out and you know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: kind of control their own destiny to a certain extent.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: That certainly is the easiest part of getting the playoffs
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: if they went all out. So you know, it is,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: but it is. It is funny because it does feel
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: like there are some guys who are just kind of, uh,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: this is not really working out, and others that are saying, well,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: you still, We're still in this. We have a chance
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to do this. So your sense listening to the coaching
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: staff and obviously understanding Jake Gruden, you guys got an
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: offensive pedigree, long offensive pedigree. When Josh Johnson comes in
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: with the Redskins and the system that they put in place,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: are they asking Josh to learn their system or are
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: they tweaking it trying to build something around Josh. I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: think it's mostly their system. I don't think they have
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to tweak too much with him. And you know, you
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: remember he was a part of Jay gru his offense
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay and then Cincinnati as well, so there's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: not um I would say too much that they have
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to to adjust, just because of the fact that he's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: pretty familiar with this offense already, and then you look
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: at what he was able to do a little bit
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: last week. I think adding a little bit of the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: mobility to this offense is is kind of paramount at
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: this point because their their offensive line is pretty banged
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: up and there's been a lot of situations where they've
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: had to change out guards even in the middle of games.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: And I think when you looked at what Mark Sanchez
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: was trying to do, He's not a mobile guy. It
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: was really tough for him to get a rhythm because
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: almost immediately the Giants defensive front put pressure on him.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: He was sacked as several times. I think what Josh
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Johnson brings this look, if there is that internal pressure,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: he's able to run out of the pocket make some
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: things happen. I think that's kind of what you want
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: at this point, because he was really starting to make
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: some plays, and I think a lot of the offensive
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: playmakers were like, they're starting to buy into what he
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: was able to do athletically, and then you know, he
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: was able to drive him down the field score a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns. It was kind of garbage time at
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: that point, but I think they started to buy into
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: this guy's as being a leader for this offense the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: rest of the way. You mentioned Adrian Peterson earlier that
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: he still has belief in this team for the playoffs
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: his thirteenth season in the league. How much has he
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: alleviated some of the pressure with the quarterback position on offense,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I'm sure as one of the huge leaders on offense
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: for your team. Yeah, it was definitely. It was definitely
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the case for the first half. I think the bread
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and butter for this Redskins offense had been let's get
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a lead early and the defense knows what it has
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to do, and then we can just keep running the ball.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Time of possession has been so key for this Redskins team,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and it really works both ways. Obviously on defense too,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: when you're able to rest and have long sustained drives
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and eat up the clock. It hasn't been the same way,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and I would say a lot of that has been
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you know, when when you have new offensive lineman, you
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: have a lot of pre snap penalties. That's been a
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: huge buggaboo that Jay Gruen has been upset with the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: last few weeks. A lot of false starts, caught a
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: holding call that puts the offense into second and twenty
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: third and fifteen kind of downs and distances, and so
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson just hasn't been able to be used too
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: much over the last couple of weeks because of that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: They're they're in these long passing situations and you just
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: don't have many options. The playbook really shrinks when you
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: you can't get into nice second and five or third
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and two's. And so Adrian Peterson, they'd like to start
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: off with him, but you know, sometimes even the last
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: couple of games he's he hasn't been able to do
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the same things he was in the first half season,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of been a little bit of a liability,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and I think they want to get him going as
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: early as possible just so they can establish that. But
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you know, and it has been helpful for a lot
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of guys, especially Alex Smith early on, but it has
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: seemed to be the case that they haven't been able
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: to rely on the same kind of explosiveness. He had
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: that one big run against the Eagles, but otherwise it's
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: it's not been in great yards per carry average. So
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I think they're looking to get him going a little
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: bit more this week. But again, it's just so hard
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: when you have new offensive line and circling in and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: out each week to came again on the same page
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: as a unit. You know, we've experienced firsthand down here
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, how a defense struggles to play to its
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: potential when they don't get a lot of help from
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the offense, and I'm sure that's been the case the
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: last few weeks, So I know this is a terrific
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: talented defense. They've given up four hundred yards of total
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: offense the last few weeks. I mean, is that the
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: case that they just haven't been able to hold up
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: with an offense that's been changing out guards and quarterbacks. Yeah,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, it's it's so hard to know.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: There's so many components. Obviously, you guys know too how
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a defense plays, and I think it's frustrating for a
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: lot of these players because they know they do have
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the talent. Josh Norman is playing at a really high
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: level this year. D J. Swerender had playing at a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: really high level this year. Um, I think there's so
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: many positives you could take away. Even even the defensive
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: line really stepped up this year. They added there on
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: pain and Matt I and I has had a really
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: big year. He's kind of on the injury list the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, but they've all been It seemed
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: like that first half this was really going to be
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a defense. Yes, And I think there's just been some
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: changes ever since I got ha Ha Clinton Dicks too,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: which has kind of been a strange development that they
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: just haven't really found a way to use him and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: get him right in the scheme, it seems like. And
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: so there's been some struggles there and I think it
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: might have I don't know if it completely messed up
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the chemistry, but there's just been a lot of misassignments,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: mis tackles, and you know, as you mentioned, it kind
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: of goes back to that whole thing about the offense.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: When you're only going three and out three and now
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: you don't have a real leader on offense, it doesn't
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: feel like drives are being sustained. The defense just is
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: constantly forced to go out and and feel like they're
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: playing from behind, and that's never easy. When when you
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: have teams that are playing from behind, the defense can
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: kind of pen it's years back. They know they're going
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: to be in certain situations. They don't have to worry
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: about the run as much. I think now it's starting
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: to change the dynamic on what opposing teams have been
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: able to do to them, and I think that's been
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: one of the big issues a Redskins dot Com Thanks
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: for your time this oneting. We'll look forward to seeing
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: you on the field on Sunday. Yeah, thanks guys so much.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Appreciate have a great day up in d C. All right,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: that's Jake him. We call it Jacome State Farm. I'm
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: sure he can stom. No, we appreciate it. Um. You
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: just there's these are very very similar. We've seen that. Yeah,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: uh in many respects. You feel like this one comes
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: down on Sunday to a defensive touchdown. Ryan. We'll see
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: how that one plays out. All right, We'll take a break.
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• 33:19
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• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Marcus Pollard will join us in a couple of minutes
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: for who said it and expect to keep winning. How
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: about a couple of NFL headline Yeah, well, you know
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: try how about a couple of NFL headlines for you.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier. That's Brandon Marshall, right, Central Florida's finest.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget. We went to Denver two thousand seven
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and I was walking on the field before the game
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and I look and I think, wow, that's pretty thin
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: defensive end. Turns out he was a wide receiver, uh
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: six ft six, two thirty pounds at you know, long arms.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And there were two games that they played against Denver
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: in back to back years seven at eight and they
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: couldn't defend him. I mean, he just he looked like
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: he was going to be All Pro and he was
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: a six time Pro bowler. But over the course of
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: seven teams now right to this year, Seattle and now
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: New Orleans, um, he's never made the playoffs. A hundred
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: and seventy eight games. Seven teams, Denver, Miami, the Seahawks,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the Saints, the Jets, the Giants, and there's someone else
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: that I'm missing in there has he has never made
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the player he imagined. The frustration, he signs on with
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the Saints thinking I'm finally going to get a chance
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to play in the playoffs, maybe get a chance to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: go deep in the playoffs because Drew brees his quarterback
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: one right. Um, No hundred and seventy eight games no
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: playoff appearances. That's a long time. The only other guy
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I even remember coming closer that was Tony Gonzalez. He's
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: probably the greatest tight end of the modern era. Uh,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: in terms of numbers and what he did make it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: But late in his career with Atlanta, they didn't win,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: but they got to the playoffs. Um. Yeah, these are
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: great players and not making the playoffs is kind of
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: an interesting story. So Brandon Marshall a Saint no more? Uh,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: here's one for you. How about this? The Raiders don't
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: have a home for next year. Obviously they're moving to
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles. I'm sorry Las Vegas. Um, they were in
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Try to follow their travels. So they've got
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: a one year lease deal set on the table with
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the Oakland Alameda County folks. Um. But there's a lawsuit
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: now involving the Raiders. It's the federal lawsuit, and so
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: they're probably not playing in Oakland next year, and they
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: don't know where they're playing, and they don't know where.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: And Derek Carr was scratching his head yesterday in the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: locker room saying, this is crazy. I mean, he said,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: four head coaches in his short tenure now five years
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, probably should figure that out while
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: they're talking about. Maybe they could play in the South
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Bay and work a deal with the Niners to play
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: at Levi Stadium. Or they could go and work a
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: deal with the Giants in San Francisco and play at
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: a T and T park, Or they could work a
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: deal with Stanford or Cal both Bay area schools with
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: big stadiums. Or they could go play in uh San Diego.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: They could play in St. Louis, who has recently lost
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the Rams. San Antonio has been mentioned, although I think
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: that's that's not as likely anymore. Um, but the Saints
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: played there when Hurricane Katrina took away the super Dome
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: from them back in two thousand and five. So a
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: lot of options, but they don't know. And Roger Goodell
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: was saying yesterday at the NFL's owners meetings in Dallas
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: that they had to figure this out by February so
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: that they could get the scheduled on right and to
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: have stability. That's just a mess. We're home. Um, speaking
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: of home, our final headline is this, uh. You know,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: New York City was the home of the draft for
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: ever uh and a few years ago. What Chicago was
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: there for two years and Chicago did a great job
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: with it. Then it went to Philly, and Philly took
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: it up a notch and didn't even better job with it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Last year was in Dallas. This year it's in Nashville,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: and the year after it's going to Las Vegas. Which
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the minute there was a franchise in Las Vegas, you
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: knew that that show is going out there and as
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: good a job as all these other cities have done. Um.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Kind of like the fact that I go to the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Draft every years. Nashville is gonna be is gonna be interesting.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Nash is a great city. Um. Vegas, well, you saw
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the sign right there. He said, it's fabulous. So those
• 37:26
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• 37:28
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  Speaker 1: if people hear that and go, hey, that's Marcus, that's
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  Speaker 1: Marcus Pollard. I do thank Yeah, how are good? Yeah? Um, perspective,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: we can do Thursday preview before we we get into
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the down and dirty side of team that's coming in
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: here Washington with a quarterback that a little over a
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: week ago was playing in you know, charity basketball games.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Is all of a sudden on the field. Um. Now, look,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: he's he's been around twelve teams, which is remarkable. I
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: mean more than a third of the teams in the league.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: He has a jersey at home, you know, probably framed
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: and maybe I don't know. I don't believe so I
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: don't know. It would be a great question. Yeah. Um.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: My question to you is if, if you're Jake Ruden,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: do you just come out of the gate with all
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: of your crazy packages and say, you know, we've got
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: a mobile guy who can run around. He hasn't played
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: a lot in the last two years. We don't necessarily
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: want him to stand back in the pocket and take
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: any shots. I mean, do you go single wing? I'm
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I'm being facetious, but yeah, I mean there's six and
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: seven and we just had a preview of the game
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: from Washington, and the thought was, well, you know, he
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: was with Jake Gruden and Tampa, and he was with
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Jake Gruden and Cincinnati, and so he he probably knows
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the system. Uh, let him run the system. And they
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: are still in the playoff hunt um, and there's a
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: way they can get in if they just went to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: of their final three games. Interesting thought, very interesting. I
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: just I will be on I would, especially what this
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: has been his second game. I like to be a
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: little bit more patient, especially with their being still y
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: off implications on the line at stake, So I would
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: kind of ease him. Even though he's very familiar with
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the offense, he's not very familiar with the players he's
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: playing with and renting routes and the concepts of how
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the backs are taking routes, Who can cats, who can't?
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Who you guys that I can lean on, e um
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: read the tight end who's apparently out? You know? So
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to me, he still have to figure some things out
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: so I would be out linked to the side of
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: its just just hand it off and just play basic football.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Couple of weeks a couple of weeks ago our Thursday
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Night preview, we talked about being excited to watch the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Saints and the Cowboys. I remember at the end of
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the game going man, Marcus and I both thought they
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: were gonna score a lot. They didn't. Dallas stepped up
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: defense at this time of the year really becomes you
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: know your ace card when when you if you've got
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: one and key players who can make things happen um tonight.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: The team that seems to have that with them is
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: the Chargers, and everybody's focused on Patrick mahomes uh and
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: what they've done with offense in Kansas City. But when
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you have Joey Bosa, who now all of a sudden
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: says I'm back, um whoa WHOA. First of all, great game,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: great game should be? Should be a great game tonight?
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: It should be. We spent a lot of time talking
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: about my home, so let's leave Kansas City on the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: sideline for a moment. I'm an appreciation for Philip Rivers,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: who might be the guy I enjoy watching the most
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: part of it's his is just as demeanor. I love
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: how fiery he is. Um, but he's a guy who
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: just he can launch the ball, he can stand the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: pocket and be patient and wait for the underneath routes
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: to come open. He's as good a quarterback as there
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: is in the game. He doesn't have the championships to
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: show with it, but if you're gonna line up with
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: him against anyone, you'd feel pretty good about it. Yeah,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: And I was just thinking as you were talking. I
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: can hear Simularis and Tom Brady, big guys. You can
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: stand in the pocket, I can throw it the little
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: bit more mobile, not very much more mobile, Tom, But
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: two guys who can just get it done, can rib it,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: throw it down the field. Fiery, can relate the teammates
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and overall great guys. Spend some time with Um and
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: everything I can hear about Um Um Philip. Philip Rivers
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: is amazing, a great guy, great teammate, so very very
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: similarity personality wise and athletically to each other. His numbers
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: are similar. When you look at your four thousand yards
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: and thirty touchdowns. I mean he's just put those things out.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: A couple of things that stand out about number one. Um,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the older quarterbacks don't like to get hit. Eyton didn't
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: like to get hit. But people say that all the time,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: But think about it a freshman, Ye, rookie, Yeah, at quarterback,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: and they'll tell you the same thing. I don't want
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: to get hit. I don't want to forget the age, right,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: you know. But Rivers is more like Roethlisberger in this
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: sense that he'll stand in there and take the hit,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: bounce back up and get in your face and let
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you have it. You know. I love that fire Elwait
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: was like that. You know, he didn't necessarily love getting hit.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: He feels it today, but he took some wicked hits
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in the day from Derrick Thomas and from Neil Smith
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: in these Kansas City games, and he popped right back up,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: and you know, he just let the show. Let me
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: talk about leadership for goodness sakes. To me, that's one
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: of the things to me when I look back at
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Brett Fobb's career, that's the one thing that stands out
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: to me is that he was so tough. He stick
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: his head there and die for the extra yard. People
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: tell him, why don't you slide? Why an't I sliding.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I need to help my teammates out. And when you
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: see a guy like that sticking his head in there
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: and getting the extra yard, you really your troops, You
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: really a teammates like, Okay, if our quarterback is doing this,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I gotta do it running back. That's exactly right. I
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: think the Chargers are the class of the a f C.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I do. I know everyone's high on Kansas City, but
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: without Kareem Hunt, I think that this team when they
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: get Melvin Gordon back and they don't have him tonight obviously,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: and Austin Ekeler might not be on the field tonight,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: and he's a big part. We saw that last year
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: when he was able to do for them. I'm going
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: with the Chargers tonight. I think I think what they
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: do on defense, um, I'm going with Gusts and the
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: defensive going with them, Um that group. I'm going with
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: the Chargers. Yeah, because I think it's coming off an
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: emotional week. They're just on a streak. They're moving. I mean,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's a tough one. I hopefully this
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: game is like we said, like hope is advertised and hopeless.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: This is a great game, But I mean it's really
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: kind of hard for me to best against Kansas City, right.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Anthony land is one of my favorite Jaguars assistance of
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: all time. He was here for a couple of years. Coach,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: great guy, great guy. Uh and and Gus obviously is
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: someone that we all think very highly of. So I'm
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: going with I'm going with the Chargers. I get it.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: You're taking the safe bet. Ye, the smart bet too.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you trust in Gus. That's fine. No trusting
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: the players. I trusting the players. I just think you
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: know what they've got with those two rushers, with Marvin
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: on one side and with Joey on on the other,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: what they can bring from the outside. I just I
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: just they're good. They are very very good, very good.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: But Philip with a great quarterback. Philip River was just playing, well,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: you go in and you win in uh in Pittsburgh,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: which you know some teams make look easy. It's not.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: It's not, it's not, it's not. All right, we'll see,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: all right, you ready to play this game? Oh yeah,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Marcus is ready. He's not okay with losing a few
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. It's all on his mind. Actually, you know,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that's one of my things that really fire me up.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: When people tell me I can't do something, well, I
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: didn't tell you. Okay, finish if I can't do something, Oh,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I don't exhale as well as I think I should.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I go all out to win. No pressure. I don't
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: feel any I've answered seven straight questions. I mean, yeah,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: she tried to screw me out of my spot last week.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't because I was I was up to one
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: on John, who filled in a right, and she goes, well,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: let's go to the type break. I said, we don't
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: need a type break. That's a time maaker, not a
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: type breaker. I'm not going to give John a shot.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I believed in him. Thanks. I appreciate that Lucky does
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: in the charges tonight. Right, all right, First one is
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: a quote tweet throwing it up here. If they heat
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: up leftover pizza, they're an arc. The quote tweet is
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: this player said truth. He believes in this statement. Oh,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I stopped very active on social media. That's your clue,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: big tweeter. All right, let's see it. You both are wrong,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: not Jalen Ramsey. You get one more guests each quickly.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I like the direction you're going, but think outside the box.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Here outside the pizza box, snug Jill. You guys didn't
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: see this one? No, and I looked, yeah, and I
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: don't and I don't. I don't have a clue. No,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just guessing because it's food and food was deep Westbrook.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I see that, but no, Carson Tinker, that is outside
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the box. Good guess. But who was it? Josh Lambo
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: never would have guessed it. Should have looked at his
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: social media. Yeah, he's all over. So the thing I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: saw from him was retweet retweet Bowl. So I just
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: didn't even pay an attention to him. That's fair. It
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: was kind of in the middle of all the Pro
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Bowl stuff, so it was hit him a narc. Okay,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: now you know what. Okay, next one, a simple statement
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: from this guy. But still on the pedal markets. Come on,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: you said you were prepared. I guess I didn't prepare
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: well enough. I think Brian seems confident. Yeah, he wrote
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: it out really fast. All right, let's see your first
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: really say that. I'm guessing. No. Thanks for the horn too,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: by the way, Well, Brian, yes, unique and go away.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: You know he like he goes for the simple stuff. Okay,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: here we go. Strategy, No, no, it isn't. It's one.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I've got one weak. I'm prepared today. All right, let's
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: go this one. My son might wake up and come
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: lay down with me, and then here comes my daughter
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: que laughing faces the calm before the storm, heat, chill,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: and she wild. Marcus, Come on, man, you're so disappointing.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I'm so disappointing. All right, do you have an explanation, Brian.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just so confident that I'm Marcus. Are you ready? Yeah, okay,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: let's see it. You go first this time. Correct, Marcus,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: you have to go because you lost again. Um. I
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: just want to let we do not need the type
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: breaker this week. I saw you had twenty seven down.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Why did you change it? It was Leonard for net
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: What instinct was that to change? Well? I thought, come on,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: that was the first mistake. I thought, yeah, that was Yeah.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: She just went with the instincts. And I thought, and
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I said, well, how about tip. Let me just take
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: a while gander. Type of the guy who tweets the
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: most about son and daughter is Leonard that much? I know? Yes,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: you know. She came in this morning and she said,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: better be ready because Marcus is ready. And so I
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: got ready. You have two more weeks, pal, what's the record?
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: What's the two? One? Me? Yep to one me. I
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: gotta win next week. It's an absolute must next week
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: to talk about a must win. Yeah, for you, it
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: is absolutely must win, win or go home. Yeah, and
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: then pay up. I only go home, but up. I
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: don't know what you're paying up. Yeah. We gotta figure
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: that part out. Something probably involving food. It's always good. Um,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: just quick thought. This team, uh Doug talk yesterday about
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: playing like you love the game, playing like a kid. Um,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: will they get the sense they will? I think so? Okay,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: you know, because I've been asked that question and I
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: don't like where we are recognized. But emotionally, I think
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: our guys still having fun. And that may not be
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: the thing that people want to hear, but to me,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have them have fun with each other than
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: to come to work miserable, like why am I here?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: At least with that attitude, you give yourself an opportunity
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: to win a game. Absolutely, and that's how you have
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: a game where you see some of it and the
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: love of the game comes through the joy that comes
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: through if if not, it feels like last week. Absolutely right.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: As always, we greatly appreciate you coming up. Step it
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: up next week, all you boy. I hope the Chargers
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: win to night. Yeah, exactly, all right. That'll do it
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: for our Thursday show. Head coach Dug mor Own joins
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: us tomorrow for coffee with the coach along with John Osier.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Will have, he will, he won't, he might, will pick
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: one game and picket plus fantasy football. You don't want
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: to miss it. Jags Drive time finished for today thanks
• 52:18
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• 52:21
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, part of the Fields Automotive Group. Have a
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: great day.