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  Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Chuck here, We're going back in time to
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  Speaker 1: March on this Saturday Selects episode to tell you how
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  Speaker 1: to tip people. Oh boy, if you don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to tip, then this episode we'll kind of explain that
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  Speaker 1: to you. It is from twelve. So I hope you
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  Speaker 1: did the right thing. I know we talked about tipping well,
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  Speaker 1: but I am tipping even more of these days, especially
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  Speaker 1: in our recent situation during the lockdown, when so many
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  Speaker 1: people in the industries that rely on tips have not
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  Speaker 1: been able to work for tips and they have been
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  Speaker 1: hit hard. So I gotta tell you I'm throwing down
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  Speaker 1: as much money their way as I can afford, as
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  Speaker 1: should you. So do the right thing. Everyone, tip big
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  Speaker 1: if you can, and listen to this episode on how
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  Speaker 1: tipping works. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production
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  Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W Chuck Bryant, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: this is Stuff you Should Know the podcast. Have you
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  Speaker 1: ever waited tables? I did? Know, it's awful. How long
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  Speaker 1: did you do it? I did it often on for
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  Speaker 1: many years. Didn't but man, I was bad. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: waited tables for many years as well, and many, uh
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  Speaker 1: several different states and different many different kinds of restaurants,
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  Speaker 1: So I have a pretty wide range of experience with
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  Speaker 1: being tipped. How are you doing great? How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Are you trying to hurry this along? Here's a tip
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  Speaker 1: for for for me to you steer clearer, that O
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  Speaker 1: J guy pal, O J. Simpson. Yeah, there's from a
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  Speaker 1: Dave Letterman top ten from the nineties something about tipping,
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  Speaker 1: and one of them was like, here's a tip, steer
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  Speaker 1: clearer that O J. Fellow pal. I'm glad we're staying
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  Speaker 1: relevant as always. I'm not trying to move it along.
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  Speaker 1: I just thought, since you said he didn't have an intro,
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  Speaker 1: I would document a litt bit of my history as
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  Speaker 1: a waiter. You did, great man. Remember what's his name,
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  Speaker 1: the guy from Scrubs and Gardens State. For some reason,
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  Speaker 1: I always think he was perfect at being that waiter,
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  Speaker 1: Zach Breth. Yeah, for some reason. It was just like
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  Speaker 1: whenever I think of waiters and then I think of
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  Speaker 1: l A, I think of that character. Yeah, the scene
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning and the end of it, I think
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  Speaker 1: that was really based on his experience as a waiter. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he wore a lot of eyeliner in the early two
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  Speaker 1: thousand guyliner, So that's called you never heard that phrase,
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  Speaker 1: no guyliner? Yeah, uh so tipping, Josh, this was You've
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  Speaker 1: been pushing this one for a while and it never
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  Speaker 1: got done for various reasons. And I'm glad we got
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  Speaker 1: around to it because I will be one that people.
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  Speaker 1: It's ubiquitous and we'll get tons and tons of email
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  Speaker 1: about this, I guarantee it. Yeah, and it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be helpful because in several points we tell you to
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  Speaker 1: go to trip advisor to look up tipping customs, So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's helpful. Well, it's hard to cover tipping customs because
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  Speaker 1: they're print everywhere and for each job, and it's gets
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  Speaker 1: so overwhelming you just have to end up saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: if you're going to this country, look it up. Or
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  Speaker 1: apparently you need to go through life like Jimmy Conway
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  Speaker 1: and Goodfellas and tip absolutely every single person you see
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  Speaker 1: your mechanic. Did you see that? Did you know you're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to tip your mechanics into twenty bucks or more
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  Speaker 1: for jobs over Like, hey, thanks for overcharging me and
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  Speaker 1: exploiting my ignorance of my car and how it functions.
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  Speaker 1: Here's an extra twenty bucks your mechanic. Yeah, well you
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  Speaker 1: know what, since you brought that up. Uh. There was
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  Speaker 1: a saw on ABC questionnaire is tipping out of control?
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  Speaker 1: And of people say it is. I disagree. You don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's out of control. After reading this, I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm way cheaper than I realized. Um, and this is
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  Speaker 1: just a question I thought was interesting. What services bother
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  Speaker 1: you the most that you were obliged to tip? Thirty
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  Speaker 1: percent of people said bathroom attendance. Oh I don't tip them.
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  Speaker 1: That's at the top of my list. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: a bathroom attendance. Well, yeah, I can get my own. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it makes me want to not watch my hands. It
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  Speaker 1: makes me just want to get out of there. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Take out food tipping, it irks people to pay for
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  Speaker 1: like when you get a takeout order, Like when you
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  Speaker 1: go there and they just turn around and get your
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  Speaker 1: food and handed to you in a bag you like
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  Speaker 1: when you call it in. You don't tip them? I do,
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  Speaker 1: do you really? Yeah? Okay, what else? Salons? Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: one of people don't like tipping the salon because women
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  Speaker 1: say it's just endless because you gotta tip your colors
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  Speaker 1: and the people who watch I can see that. And
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  Speaker 1: then the tip jars at coffee houses. I rarely patronize
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  Speaker 1: those as well, coffee houses or tip jars, And the
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  Speaker 1: reason being is, um, I I'm sure I will be
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  Speaker 1: taken to task for this. I don't think people in
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  Speaker 1: coffee houses are paid the tipped wage. They're not, so
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  Speaker 1: I looked at it. I might as well walk around
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  Speaker 1: with the tip jar and ask people to give me
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  Speaker 1: their change. I'll even wear a change belt. How about
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't make it easier on you? Well, why would
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  Speaker 1: you even have a tip jar there if you're not
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  Speaker 1: getting paid the tipped wage. That brings up a big point,
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  Speaker 1: because that is a big controversy. People at Starbucks start
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  Speaker 1: out about eight fifty to nine bucks an hour. Is
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  Speaker 1: that this's minimum wage? That's above the minimum wage? Just
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  Speaker 1: I think seven is a minimum wage? Now, the tipped
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  Speaker 1: the Fair Standards and Labor Act, the minimum federal hourly
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  Speaker 1: wage for tipped employees is two thirteen. Yes, yes, those
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  Speaker 1: people although usually getting tipped. Yeah, no, it doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily. Now, well, most states have their own and
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  Speaker 1: it's more than two thirteen. It's I didn't get that
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  Speaker 1: most states too. I know the pinnacle is Colorado and
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  Speaker 1: they have like a minimum tipped wage of four thirteen
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  Speaker 1: an hour, and that's what everybody's like, Wow, Colorado is
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  Speaker 1: really killing it. UM. I know here in Georgia it's
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  Speaker 1: the it's the federal minimum. And there's a group called
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  Speaker 1: fairy eats dot org that's dedicated to um shaming restaurants
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  Speaker 1: that that just adhere to that by celebrating restaurants that
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  Speaker 1: pay their employees more than the minimum federal minimum tipped wage. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you're supposed to make up the difference as a restaurant
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  Speaker 1: from what employees claim to the I r S and
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  Speaker 1: their tipped money. If that doesn't equal minimum wage, then
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  Speaker 1: the restaurateur is supposed to make up that difference in wages.
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  Speaker 1: I would I would wager that that does not happen. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I would wager that not many tipped employees are reporting
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  Speaker 1: all of their tips either. That's true too, So it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like you have to, you have to, and
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  Speaker 1: then both just kind of storm away disgruntled. But you
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  Speaker 1: don't tip McDonald's. You don't tip it. And for the
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  Speaker 1: same reason I don't tip people at coffee houses, because
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  Speaker 1: it's the same thing. You are putting your my order
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  Speaker 1: in right into a cash register or cash register computing machine. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and you're turning around and grabbing my coffee or my
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  Speaker 1: my fries or whatever, right, And I'm not demeaning or
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  Speaker 1: diminishing that job whatsoever. Like I'm very happy that you're
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  Speaker 1: doing that because I really want that. And you're standing
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  Speaker 1: between me and the fries, right, so hand him over.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you this money, but you make like a
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  Speaker 1: maybe you got health benefits at Starbucks. So in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: we can either entirely do away with tipping by raising
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  Speaker 1: everybody to at least the minimum wage, and while we're
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  Speaker 1: at it, let's also maybe double the minimum wage because
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  Speaker 1: it's laughable still, right, um, and just do away with tipping,
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  Speaker 1: just go totally Japan or or we need to really
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  Speaker 1: make it clear who's depending on tips and who's not.
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  Speaker 1: And these jokers at coffee houses need to get rid
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  Speaker 1: of the tip jar and they need to stop calling
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  Speaker 1: it karma, which I think we went over in them
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, that's kind of that's passive aggressive guilty,
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  Speaker 1: you think. All right, So that was our intro tipping.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about where this often vilely exploited act
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  Speaker 1: came from. Chuck, go ahead, Well I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: was on a rant. I was too, just okay, Um, Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's see tipping they think has its origins in about
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  Speaker 1: the sixteenth century in Europe, where if you went and
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  Speaker 1: visited a friend, a relative of colleague, you went to
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  Speaker 1: their house. Uh, you would often tip their servants, especially
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  Speaker 1: if you got really drunk and soiled yourself and they
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  Speaker 1: cleaned you up. You might be like, here's a couple
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  Speaker 1: of pieces of gold, let's just keep this between you
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  Speaker 1: and me, okay, And they would, and over time it
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  Speaker 1: became much less of a way to um show your
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  Speaker 1: appreciation as something that was expected and depended on. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Once you start kind of giving money in a customary manner,
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  Speaker 1: people start to include that in their budgets, right yeah. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so they think that that's possibly where the custom came from.
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  Speaker 1: Right yeah. I don't even think that this this acronym thing
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  Speaker 1: is even valid at all. No, and it's not at
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  Speaker 1: There's a guy named Steve Doblonica who's written books on tipping.
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  Speaker 1: He's got some pretty good research down And you want
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  Speaker 1: to say the acronym, uh, t I P two in
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  Speaker 1: ensure with an eye promptness. But that's just there's no
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  Speaker 1: way no, because number one acronyms didn't really come into
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  Speaker 1: use until the nineteen twenties. Yeah, they weren't using acronyms
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  Speaker 1: in the sixteenth century. And the word tip itself has
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  Speaker 1: been around for long before that. And like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it should be it shouldn't be tipped ensure with an eye,
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  Speaker 1: it should be ensure with an e. So there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot wrong with that. What they think is that tipping
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  Speaker 1: um originally came from the uh this kind of word
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  Speaker 1: among thieves, which is how we use it today, like
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  Speaker 1: you tip somebody off. That it basically to give something right, right,
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  Speaker 1: And it was just basically common thieves slang um. But
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  Speaker 1: then the act of tipping itself also came from either
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  Speaker 1: the servants, from tipping servants or it also was it
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  Speaker 1: grew out of giving money to somebody who worked at
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  Speaker 1: the bar to buy their own drink as well get
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  Speaker 1: a drink for yourself on me. And in fact, the
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  Speaker 1: word tip in Slavic languages translates roughly to drinking money
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  Speaker 1: on the word for tip in French is poor beer
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  Speaker 1: pour boi which means for drinking and um, basically everywhere
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  Speaker 1: else except in English, the word tip means drinking money.
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  Speaker 1: So that's probably where tipping came from. I like that
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  Speaker 1: origin here. I'm have been a good time, I had
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  Speaker 1: a few drinks. Go by yourself one exactly, it's just
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  Speaker 1: spreading the joy. Or I'm at my buddy's house and
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  Speaker 1: I've drank until I soiled myself. There's some money for
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  Speaker 1: cleaning me up last night. I appreciate it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know about the train spotting the origin of tipping. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so this is this is probably where tipping came from.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, a little more history if you don't mind
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  Speaker 1: chuckers um, you can pretty much pinpoint how tipping became
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  Speaker 1: a customed in the United States. Because it was all
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  Speaker 1: a rage in Europe, it was not caught on here
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  Speaker 1: in the US. Even though a lot of wealthy Americans
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  Speaker 1: were traveling to Europe and coming back and tipping, people
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  Speaker 1: were like, what are you doing? Like, sure, give me
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  Speaker 1: your money, but I'm not gonna do the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Until the Pullman Company, the Pullman rail car company, figured
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  Speaker 1: out that they could grossly underpay their porters by publicizing
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  Speaker 1: that they relied on tips to survive, and basically the
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  Speaker 1: Pullman company cut almost three million dollars in the in
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  Speaker 1: the like late nineteenth century, there was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money from their payroll by basically relying on their customers
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  Speaker 1: good hearts to take care of their porters for him.
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  Speaker 1: It is when you think about it in those terms,
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  Speaker 1: it is sort of a dirty business. It's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we don't want to pay our employees. They're serving you,
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  Speaker 1: so you pay them. But like you're the one reaping
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  Speaker 1: all the reward of the five dollar a cup of
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  Speaker 1: coffee exactly, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And a
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  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of restaurants, or a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people in the on the restaurant side of this debate say, well,
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  Speaker 1: if we start raising their wages to like the minimum
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  Speaker 1: wage or even like double the tip wage, um, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go under. And apparently some studies have found that
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  Speaker 1: that's actually not the case that they can come out
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  Speaker 1: on top because restaurant owners spend so much money on
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  Speaker 1: training through turnover, because the wages are so low that
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  Speaker 1: people just hop from job to job wherever they can
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  Speaker 1: get the most tips. If you can offer a higher
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  Speaker 1: stable wage, you're gonna have much less turnover and ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: in the long run, you may come out on top
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  Speaker 1: as a restaurant owner. So interesting, possibly that's one side.
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  Speaker 1: You know, who pays the customer? Yeah, us, because middle
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  Speaker 1: class You pay the five bucks for a cup of coffee,
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  Speaker 1: which the company gets they don't have to pay. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they do pay their employee minimum wage, but that ain't much,
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  Speaker 1: and then they get the little tip on top of that,
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  Speaker 1: and you end up paying six fifty for your cup
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  Speaker 1: of coffee. And you know what now that you're you're
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  Speaker 1: bringing this up, you mean I were at Caribou and um,
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  Speaker 1: they have I love Caribou coffee, right, but they had
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  Speaker 1: this promo where it was like beans for the Troops
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  Speaker 1: or something like that, and it was like, hey, go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and uh and buy this this fifteen dollar pound
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  Speaker 1: of coffee and we'll send them to the troops. And um,
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  Speaker 1: we asked if they were selling them at a discount,
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  Speaker 1: like if the Cariboo was doing anything. They were like, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's a regular price. And we're like, so wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: you're exploiting Americans affinity and affection for the troops as
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  Speaker 1: a way to you know, beef up your on ground
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  Speaker 1: bean sales. That was disgusting. If you ask me, it happens,
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  Speaker 1: that's gross. At that board meeting is the gross part
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  Speaker 1: where that's decided. You know where we can really record, right,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I knew this would be a lightning rod.
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  Speaker 1: This is just us were going to get. Oh boy, well,
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  Speaker 1: since you brought it up, it is a lightning rod. Period.
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  Speaker 1: If you go on the internet and you start looking
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  Speaker 1: about tipping, you will find two camps. People that work
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  Speaker 1: for tips that are outraged that people don't want to tip,
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  Speaker 1: or the under tip, and then people that say it
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  Speaker 1: is out of control. Every you know, you go on
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  Speaker 1: a vacation, you stay in a hotel and need a restaurants,
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  Speaker 1: you're Jimmy Conway. I again, like I was reading this,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, dude, do other people tip all
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  Speaker 1: these people? Because I feel like a real jerk in
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  Speaker 1: some of these cases I do, and I end up
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  Speaker 1: feeling like a sucker. And then you know what I thought,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, I never carried cash, it's all plastic,
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  Speaker 1: so surely plastic leading to a decline in tipping. I
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  Speaker 1: did a search for that, no, no, all I could
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  Speaker 1: find with that most people carry plastic and a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of currency for tips. I'm like, oh man, I
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  Speaker 1: really have to get on the ball here, just like
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  Speaker 1: starts so much. Stop all right. They've actually done a
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  Speaker 1: lot of studying about tips. Yeah, why do we do this? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: the psychology tipping, as it were, well, um, one is
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  Speaker 1: out of guilt. Yeah, wasn't that one of the reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Uh well yeah not Supposedly if you think about tipping,
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  Speaker 1: the whole ideas that you're doing it out of gratitude,
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  Speaker 1: like you did a really good job and I want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that you have, um, this extra little
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  Speaker 1: bit go buy yourself something nice on me, or I
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  Speaker 1: want to ensure because as I come back to you
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  Speaker 1: that I will get that same service when I come back, right,
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  Speaker 1: So really it's um. What they're finding is that it's
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  Speaker 1: guilt and fear, like you know that people rely on
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  Speaker 1: these tips, and part of your role as customer in
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  Speaker 1: some circumstances is to pay these people their salary that
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  Speaker 1: they're depending on the tips, or you're afraid that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to pee in your soup and you're basically saying,
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  Speaker 1: here's some money, Um, please don't be in my soup,
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  Speaker 1: and they say all right, that that's gonna do it.
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  Speaker 1: That that that takes care of the no peace soup, Levy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but the tip comes after the soup. Yeah, but you
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  Speaker 1: may be back there again, okay, right, yes. Uh. The
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  Speaker 1: Center for Hospitality at Cornell University, Uh, they've done some
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  Speaker 1: research there and I thought this was fairly interesting. They
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  Speaker 1: found the US leads the world in uh being neurotic
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  Speaker 1: and being extroverted, and those are two traits that lead
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  Speaker 1: to big tips because you're you're neurotic, so you feel like,
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  Speaker 1: course I have to leave. You know, anyone who's ever
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  Speaker 1: seen the Curb Your Enthusiasm tip episode, that's like tipping
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  Speaker 1: neuroticism at its finest portraye. You want to tip as
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  Speaker 1: much as your friend. You don't want to undertip. You
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  Speaker 1: want to tip just you don't want to overtip. You
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  Speaker 1: want to tip just the right amount. I don't mind
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  Speaker 1: over tipping, especially when it's like it's really good service.
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  Speaker 1: Ye Like, I'm happy to overtip, and I prefer to
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  Speaker 1: air on the side of over tipping. Right. For sure.
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  Speaker 1: Extroverts are outgoing social folks, and they see it as
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  Speaker 1: an incentive to get a little extra attention, like make
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  Speaker 1: a big show about me. Party of Benjamin, party of four,
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  Speaker 1: Benjamin Franklin, party of four. I never heard that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: yaman's got a story about this one. Dude, Wow, you
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  Speaker 1: won'ta tell it. Well, it was pretty much it. They
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  Speaker 1: were she and her boyfriend at the time and his
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  Speaker 1: friend were at this restaurant and um, the guy actually said,
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  Speaker 1: uh Franklin party of four, and she said it worked.
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  Speaker 1: She couldn't believe it. She was like, I felt bad
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  Speaker 1: about the guy we're with and the guy who took
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  Speaker 1: the money, but you said it was good, interesting, good meal.
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  Speaker 1: I've never agreas to palm for like a table. I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: haven't either. That's a good move, though I wish i'd
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: like to do that. It is, but really it's kind
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: of like, man, you you give up a lot of
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: any claim to the even if you don't make that
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: much money, if you're walking around doing stuff like that.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: You know, speaking of did you see the internet meme
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: going around about the Tipper, Yes, which apparently totally unfounded.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Now I don't. I think it's sort of unfounded. I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: thought he was a one percent tipper. He's a one
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: percent temper because he is part of the one percent,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: And from what I understood was the tip was real,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: but what he wrote on there was fabricated. Well, or
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: that they didn't even know for sure he was a banker,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: then the whole thing is fabricated. I did see that though.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: By the way I mean this, this is breaking news,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: is like yesterday for four weeks ago. So can we
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: go back to some some of the interesting studies about
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: how you get good tips. This is Josh and Chucks.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: If you're a waiter or a waitron, here are our
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: tips for you to increase your tips. And this restaurant,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: this isn't just us in our observations. Again, Cornell has
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: put a lot of thought and energy into it. I
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: believe in real research. There's been a lot of studies
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: about how and why we tip. One of them is touching.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Like if you are a server and you touch the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: your customer, you will increase your tip. And it's not
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: just lonely horny men, um men and women of all
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: ages um will increase their tip with just a brief
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: touch on the shoulder from eleven point eight percent to
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: fourteen point eight percent. I, however, do not like to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: be touched. I don't either. I'm glad. You said that
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: to me the other day and I was just like, like,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: what are you doing? It didn't freak me out, like
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: it's not something I don't know you, you don't know me. Yeah,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: let's keep our hands to ourselves, okay, right, and then
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: we'll see where your tip goes. Did his tip go down? No,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: of course not. You should have punished him severely. How
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: god do you have that power in your so much
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: former waiter guilt tip on bad service as I do.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: As long as you have the right attitude, that makes
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the biggest difference. If you're like, oh, yeah, really sorry
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and it was bad service and you said I'm sorry, guys,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you know I let you down the night unless you're
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: being manipulative by doing that, and you really just couldn't
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: have cared less you phoned it in and then you said, oh,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: really sorry that I can't too. Yeah, intentions go a
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: long way with me, all right. Squatting And this was
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: my big move when I was a waiter, because you're
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a squatter at my at my at the nice restaurant
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I worked at, it was my big move. I would
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: kneel down next to the table A lot of times.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: You get that eye contact going on, and your tips
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: are going to go up from fourteen point nine percent
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: to seventeen point five. Okay, I would also like to
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: add a caveat to this. However, if you actually get
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: into the booth or take a seat at the table,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you've crossed the line. Well I I used to do
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: that at Mexicali, though, but that was a college atmosphere,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: and that that would be acceptable at certain times. Even
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: in college at Mexicali. No, no, no, that was over
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the line. No, no, no, no. It was fun girls
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: drinking margharita's. I would sit down and flirt and would
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: your tip go up? Yeah, and occasionally I would get
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: a phone number out of it and free margarita. That's that,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Well I had I worked there, I got all the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: free margaritis I wanted. I didn't realize they gave free
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: margharita's to employees at Mexicali. Well they didn't officially anyw
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: weren't supposed to have them while you're working either. Those
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: were the old days. Giving candy to uh to your
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: customer will jump your tip up from fifteen point one
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to seventeen point eight. Giving two pieces of candy one
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: initially and one spontaneously like here have another jumped it
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: from nineteen per cent to six percent, So long as
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you didn't end it with chumps. I'm sorry that jumped
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: it when it was the spontaneous second piece chumps by
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: being like, oh well you know what, here take two
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and we're talking like the starlight peppermints here, Okay, there's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: not like good dive at chocolate. Yes, thank you for
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: rescuing me, because I almost said snickers. That'd be nice
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to you. I had a waitress recently give Emily and
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I the pin that she gave us to sign the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: bill with because I'm a big pen guy, so as
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Emily and as far as having like the perfect pen,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and I signed things like, oh my god, feel this
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: pin and it was a combination of the pin on
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that that slimy paper that they give you and it
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: was amazing. And Emily said something that she was like,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I agree, I keep them in my carlum so much.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Go ahead and keep that one. And how much of
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it tipped you leave her? I left her my pen.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: No I'm kidding, Oh yeah, sure I tipped her. Well, No,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: it's always like the highest you goes twenty five. Yeah,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I mean I go, I go twenty, and I round up.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: No matter what I noticed, especially before the um uh well, no,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I guess it would have been even after the economic collapse,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the global catastrophe that we're in the midst of, still
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: um that it was moving very clearly towards across the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: board was the new percent, and then the economic meltdown happened,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now it's back to fifteen
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: percent and twenty percent if you're doing good. It seems like,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: am I wrong? Am I just fantasizing here? No? I
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: think it used to be ten, that it was like
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: twelve and fifteen and then twenty and then yeah, you're
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: right with the economic crisis. I did read articles that
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: people said, our tips are going down. But it's a
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: collective movement, you know what I'm saying, Like, you can
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: be the nice guy in tip twenty all the time
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but you're also kind of pushing everybody else
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: forward by doing that. Yeah. I also do the deal
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to where you know, you go out with certain people
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and you whoa, whoa, whoa. What does that mean? I've
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: got like eight different homes. I don't want. I don't
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: want to call out any any person or even are
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: you talking about a specific buddy of yours? No, not buddy,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: just you know, could be family members, could be certain friends.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Just you know, when someone picks up the tab, I
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: always do the thing where I look to make sure
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: that they were properly compensated. Then on the way and
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I got to use a bathroom, I'll
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: go put more money in there. Oh you're an underminer.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Huh yeah, because certain people, Oh man, I wish I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: could say who. I had a friend whose father was
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: in a very rich dude, and he was a bad
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: tipper and it embarrassed the crud out of me when
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: we would go to these nice places and he would
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: pick up the tab and leave like a eight to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: ten tip. And so I always need to bring cash
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to leave in the thing. Jared Hess's dad. No, No,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: just like start so much. All right, So that's it.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: How to increase your tips? Oh, tell him it's sunny outside. Yeah.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: The psychology of weather strikes again where the study was conducted.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Where if um a in a windowless room, right yeah, uh,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: if the waiter describes it as being rainy out, the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: tips were something like nineteen. This isn't too bad. But
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: if the waiter was like, oh, it's so sunny and
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: beautiful out, then tips average. So squat at the table,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: touch him on the shoulder, give him candy, Give him candy,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you've got two pieces
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: of candy, and uh, give good service, and then tell
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: them it's sunny outside and you will be rolling in
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the dead makes like a million dollars table. Thank you
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: s later, and tip on the original amount. By the way,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: that's a waiter thing. It's a big one. If you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: if you got coupons or you do the scalp mob thing,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: be aware that you're you should tip on the original amount.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: You kind of have to. It's not the waiter's fault.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: You had a coupon. Yeah, I mean that is really
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: bad if you don't know that at this point, especially
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: with how ubiquitous those those deals are getting these days.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: You know, um, but chuck. On the other hand, you
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: can make a pretty strong argument that, um, if you
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: order a hundred dollar bottle of wine, do you tip that? So? Why? Why? Yeah? Why,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I'd like some nice wine. And that is a bone
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: of contention that I swallow and I just still tip
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: on the total amount. But yeah, you're right if you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Let's say you just order a bottle of wine, like mean, Emily,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna go have a bottle of wine one
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: night because we ate dinner somewhere else, or maybe we
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: gotta have dessert somewhere, and we get a nice bottle
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: of port and it's like eighty bucks. You guys drink
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: a whole bottle of port and no, of course not.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Let's say with a group or whatever, we drink a
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: whole bottle of port, a group of what like twenty
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: you're drinking a whole bottle of drinking glass of port,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: and there's like five glasses and a bottle. It's like,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that's small. It's like a regular wine glass. What do
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: you drink brandy like that? No, because that's liquor poored
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: is wine? No, brandy is a type of wine. Okay, anyway,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: do you you're like Homer Simpson when he was baby
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: sending Mr. Burne's house when he like pours himself like
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: a whole sniffer brandy and drinks the whole thing and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: when when gulp and then just falls right over my
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: friend Timmy's wife one time asked for a bourbon on
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the rocks at her house, and she bought me like
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: seven ounces of bourbon on the rocks, and I was like,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: what are you trying to do to me? That's awesome. No,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: but port's not You're not supposed to have be a
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: little it's not like sambuca. I mean ports, like a
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: regular glass of wine. Right. I'm mistaken then, because every
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: place I go they pour your regular, regular glass. Know
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: it's a little tiny, like it's like a cordial wine glass. No, no, no, no, no,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I promise. All right, well you're gonna be wrong regardless.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: You drink expensive wine and how how much do you tip? Well,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: but it does cross my mind, like, man, I'm giving
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: this guy like fourteen dollars for bringing me the bottle
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: of wine. It's a good point, and I think even
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the average server would grudgingly agree. Okay, all right, maybe
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: maybe not on this one. But it's not just the
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: waiter that you want to tip in the restaurant, surprise, surprise.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Depending on where you go, you need to be prepared
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to tip a lot of people. Yeah, the the person
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: who see to you. Maybe if it's a really nice place.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: The matri d if the matri d goes out of
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: his way, um to get you a very nice table,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: or you feel like he's he or she is doing
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: something um very just kind of above and beyond, you
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: might want to slip from fifteen to twenty bucks. There's
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: a lot also if the Somalia comes over to your
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: table and tells you a bit about the wines, especially
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: if you solicited this advice. Yeah. In reading this article,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I realized that I have stiffed at least one Somalia
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: in my life, and now I understand why he was
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: looking at me weird when he finished. Um uh, you
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: you want to give them anywhere from ten to twenty bucks,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: depending on how in depth the recommendation is. And usually
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: when you're talking tips at least in this article that
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: we're working from from how stuff Works dot com. Um,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: there's a high and a low. Yeah, And it's basically
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: the discrepancy is based on just how much effort this
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: person is putting into it, how much enthusiasm, um, but
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and just how much out of their out of the
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: way of their normal duties are they going. See here's
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: my deal, dude, I don't want a big show. I
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: want genuine good service. And and to be left alone
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: because you you can. The tip won't go down because
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I just have the guilt. But you can go down
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: in my mind if you're just too like just too much,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: don't work too hard, don't give me a big show.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Apparently they can do whatever they want to and they're
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: still gonna get same amount of money. You know what, chuck.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: You know where you would do well, then buffets. At
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a buffet, you serve yourself and you just leave your
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: plate and it mysteriously vanishes. But that's a person behind
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the kidnapping of that plate, and you want to leave
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: them about ten percent as a recommendation, So you want
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to leave them thirty five cents at your buffet. I
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: don't go to buffet's. But yeah, you don't go to buffet's. No,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I don't understand the existence of cafeterias, since there's buffets.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: It's the same exact thing, except buffets are all you
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: can eat, and cafeterias like, here's a little ramikin of
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the same thing you can have ten helpings of if
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: you want for the same price. Well, you don't see
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of cafeterias anymore, you do, you do? Yeah,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: there's at least as many cafeterias as there are buffets.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, I think the Chinese food restaurants have
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: made that a null and void comment the Chinese food Okay, alright,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: so though they exist outside of this realm, I'm talking
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: more like country cook and buffets. Yeah, there's almost one
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: for one all right. Uh. And by the way, most
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: most nicer restaurants pulled their tips, um like it mexicality
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: was every man for himself. You know, the bus boy
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: didn't get tips. Right. Actually, we kind of bust our
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: own tables. But most restaurants will pull their tips in
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the the that's usually not a matre d at that point,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: it's just the hoster, hostess. They'll get a cut, and
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: like the bartender and the bus boy they'll they'll get dishwasher.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: They'll all get a cut. So just remember that. But
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: some places it's every man for himself too. Uh. If
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: speaking of bartenders, you are at a bar, I usually
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: tip a bucket drink for the first few drinks. That's
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: what I do. Um, unless it's a very If it's
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: like a complex, complicated drink, which I tend to prefer, um,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: it will be like a percentage of the bill if
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: there's really muddling going on. Yes, Once you start muddling,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, here's some extra money. Yeah. I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: don't tip on the bill because we'll usually just say,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: give us six PBRs for my friends and I and O,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: then tip a bucket. Even if the beer is a dollar.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I'll give a dollar. That's very nice of you, you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: because it's like, what am I gonna like fish around
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: for fifteen cents? That's just ridiculous. But you know, we're rich,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: we're high rollers. You're tipping a buck a buck for
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: a dollar beer chuckow podcasting business. Uh. Cafes and coffee houses.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I think we've kind of covered that. I tend to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: tip out of guilt there. But I don't go to
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of coffee shops because I don't drink a
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: lot of coffee. Do you really see those guys in
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: the eyes while I'm not tipping them? Do you want?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: The worst is we're checking out the grocery store and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: they're like, would you like to give a dollar to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the you know whatever foundation? That's fifty fifty for me
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: depending on my mood. Really, yeah, I mean like I
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: should do it every time. But um, yeah, and that's
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: sad that helping out kids with muscular distrophy is equated
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: to tipping. Well it's not, but yeah, I know what
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you mean, um holiday tipping, which was a big part
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: of that Curb Your Enthusiasm Enthusiasm episode when you do
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: this when you were have money. I think it's generally
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: for people that have a little more money and they
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: live in places where they know the service people helping. Yeah,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: like the guy at the country club and the guy
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: you know this and that. But you can deliver your
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: newspaper or your garbage collector your newspaper delivery person. You
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: can tip your mailman. My brother used to when he
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: worked at uh the movie theaters would give every holidays,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: he would give out movie tickets that yeah, to like
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the mailman and to the garbage person and stuff like that. Um,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: fifteen bucks they say for your garbage collector, your dog walker,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: your nanny, your cleaning service, they say one week's pay.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I save a lot of money every year by not
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: having those people set up to tip them. Uh yes, manicurist,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: you have manicurists supposed to tip them ten to fifty
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I do. And you know the way around this, go
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: to different manicurists every time, so that you're not you're
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: not a you're not a common enough customer that you
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: feel like you need to tip them at the holidays.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Hairdressers women obviously the ones who are probably been in
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the big bucks at the hairdresser, they say undred and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: this is for the holidays. You understand, it's not each visit.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: This is hey, it's Christmas. You also have to tip
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: them each visit. I get a fourteen dollar haircut, I
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: tipped six bucks? What well? Because what am I gonna
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: give them nineteen dollars? Wow? Or two dollars? Okay? That
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: just seems really cheap to me to say, like, thanks
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: for the great haircut that's gonna last me three months.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Here's eight quarters. Huh. I tipped my haircut lady all
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: over the place. What are you tipper? I kisses and
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: hugs and stuff like that. You may cut your hair
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: um hotels. Uh, you're This is something that I have
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: just recently learned. I didn't know you're supposed to tip
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: them the maid service. I knew that, but I thought
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: that was something from maybe the fifties. And that's how
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I like, um comforted myself by not tipping the maids.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, apparently we're supposed to be doing that a lot.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: One to ten dollars per night, depending on the mess
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: you make. I am extremely clean and I clean up
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: before I leave the hotel. It depends on if they
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: change you, if you soiled yourself the night before. Bell
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: hoops a dollar per bag if it's bulky and large
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: or heavy and awkward, maybe a little bit more of that. Yeah,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: more than a buck. That one I totally get. Still
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: don't do it because I frequently don't use bell hops.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I do it myself. But um, I hate that when
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: they force you to like walk you into the room
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and show you around and stuff. I would much rather
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: just carry my own bag, just give me my key
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: card again with a big show. I don't want a
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: big show. Right, Well, apparently they remember that. One study
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: found that bell hoops who do make a big show
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: of things by showing people how to how to operate
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the thermostat in the TV and opening the drapes and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: offering to fill the ice bucket, they almost doubled their
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: average tip. But I wonder if there was people who
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: are like, here's some money, just please go away. Which
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: is one of the ords, is a tipping to remember
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: throwing money for uh concierge five to ten dollars depending
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: on how helpful. Remember when we were at the Pittsburgh
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Fairmont and our buddy Chad gave the concierge like ten
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: bucks for a wreck and it turned out to be
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: a bad recommendation and he was on man, he wanted
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: his money back. What was the recommendation? I didn't go.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I was eating Indian food by myself in my room
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. It was for a restaurant that was
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: either closed or it was like it was just a
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: bad tip. And he was like, didn't get his money back? No,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: of course not. I'll bet he did not stop complaining
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: about it. That he kept going and going. Uh. And
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't know until recently, you're supposed to tip the concierge.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I'm a dummy. I didn't know that. Well, I mean
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: they helped you out, and depending I thought they were
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: much help they are, yeah, I mean like they concierge,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: and I've never had one do this for me. I've
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: never really needed the services of concierge, but seas can
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: like really go to town. I'm making your life easy.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: They can make yours. They can get you tickets to
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: a show, like yeah, sure, all sorts of things. They
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: can buy your kid a toy. If you're staying at
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: a nice enough place, oh and you're busy or whatever
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: shopping that you can find your shopper. This is, you
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: know what, in the in the spirit of keeping the
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: tradition of facts alive. I made that last part up,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: but it seems like a safe assumption. Oh sure they would, okay,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: uh doorman, tip your doorman if they If they hail
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: a taxi, tip them a buck. A lot of them
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: aren't allowed to accept tips, so don't be surprised if
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: they hand it back. All right. Deliveries this is a
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: big one for me. I get Chinese food delivery. It's
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: about the only delivery I get. Oh yeah, maybe the
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: occasional pizza where you order from. I order from a
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: place indicator of Chinese food place. Yeah, it's good, but
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: they take forever. Yeah. Yeah, see that'll cut down on
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: a tip with me. Well, especially if I'm really hungry
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: when I order. We've learned to order before we're hungry
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: from this place. It's smart like Tuesday, Yeah exactly, they
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: say to tip two to five bucks on your on
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: your food delivery to your home, depending on the weather,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: m the amount of danger depending on the neighborhood you
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: live in. Yeah, my neighborhoods dangerous. I was not talking
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: about your neighborhood. It's really not that man. Um Flower
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: deliveries one to ten bucks, depending on the arrangement. I
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: spent a little time as a flower delivery person, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I can tell you that most people don't tip their
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: flower delivery guy, even though they're bringing this bit of
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: sunshine into your life. I assume that goes for fruit
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: delivery too, with those silly fruit displays, unless ironically, you're
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: dressed like a piece of fruit while you're delivering it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Then the tips to start pouring out. Furniture delivery like
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: large things. I can tell you I did that as well,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Very large furniture among the heaviest arm wars you can
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: possibly conceive of our fabric. If you delivered to the
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: home of like someone age sixty five or older, there
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: was about a sixty percent chance they were going to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: tip you. Anybody below that was like, hey, thanks, thanks
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: for coming. Don't don't get hit by a car on
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: your way out. See my history with tipping with the
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: elderly is they don't tip as much. It depends, It depends.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: It depends on the industry. You're in restaurant because tipping,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I think, and it used to be a lot more
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: ubiquitous than it is now. Right, So yeah, So like
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: a furniture delivery like, that's why the older generation I
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: would get a tip from him more frequently, because there
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: was a time when you tipped everybody like that. Our
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: generation wasn't raised like that. I mean, do you tip
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the furniture delivery guy. I pick up my own furniture buddy, Okay,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: but you probably wouldn't like the mover, let's say, like
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: the people who help you move. I think it's expected
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: you pay the big, huge moving costs and you tip
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the guys on top of that. Man, I've got a
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: lot of at to self reflection. Sky Cap. I took
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: five bucks a bag for sky Cap. I must be
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: a sucker because it says in here two dollars a bag.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Very good. What's next? Um shuttle drivers at the airport.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you're supposed to tip them. You're not.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: This is all made up Cabby in New York. They
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: make it very easy on. You know. You just put
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: in the percentage you want in the little computer and
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: it'll add it to your to your credit card, which
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: is great valet. If I like you, which is frequent,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you get two bucks. If I don't like you, you
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: can get as little as zero dollars. I try to
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: give to UM. I feel bad though when I don't
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: have it, and I'm just like a man, and sometimes
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I'll say, can I go get my own car? Dude,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I don't have any cash. Yeah, I'll say that too,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and they say, no, we'll go get it. There was
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: an I'll fart in it, you know they will, Oh
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: they will, Yeah, I'll soil myself in your car. Uh, mechanic.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I had no idea that this is why it's made up.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: You don't tip your mechanic. Who what are they talking about?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I had no idea. I think this is from like
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the Gentleman's Guide to Life edition to tip your mechanic
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: ten to twenty dollars for any of your job over.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I had no idea. Gas station attendance like they exist
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: anymore or Oregon or wherever. If you if if they
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: voluntarily check your fluids, meaning the ones in your car, uh,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: you should tip them one to two dollars? Is it Oregon?
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: You do? You have to get your gas pumping. I
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: remember in New Jersey. I think I've even told you this.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: My girlfriend had never pumped her gas. She was like, oh, yeah,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: you did tell me that. Yeah, we are friend Van Nostri.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: He lives in Washington, which is nearby Oregon, so he
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: probably knows about that. We should ask him. Yeah. Um,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: so international tipping, it's way way too much to go
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: over and we hate to cop out, but you really
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: do need to go online because there's tons of information.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: When go to visit a country, it's all different. Look
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: it up before you go so you don't look like
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: a schmuck. Yeah. Um, there are a couple of rules
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: of thumb. You should, like you said, familiarize yourself. You know.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Not knowing the value of the currency is not an excuse. Um,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and um, don't use US currency. Yeah, that's a here's
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a couple of American dollars for you, Mr Costa Rican.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Don't disrupt your g d P. Yeah that's that's uh
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: cop out, that's b S. Convert it and give them
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: their currents. Yeah, because they have to go to an
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: exchange place, and you know, everybody has a cameo in
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: their in their neighborhood or and you know, I guess
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: some countries I think, like like Puerto Rico and stuff like,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: they can use American dollars like place because it's an
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: American territory. Well now, and I think even like Jamaica
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: in a lot of these places close to the US
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: in the Caribbean, I think, well, they can use American
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: dollars as well, so it's not so obnoxious. Can we
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: go over some people who you don't have to tip?
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Which I was very relieved to hear some of these
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: are Are there? Is there anyone that you don't have
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to tip? Restaurant owners? You're not supposed to tip, salon owners,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: basically any owner of an establishment, you don't tip unless
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: they're the ones providing the service to you. Um food
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: deliveries under thirty bucks. I don't know what that is.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense to me. Here's my favorite.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I was so glad to know that I don't I
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: can go ahead and stop tipping flight attendants. You don't
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: have to tip flight attendants. Did you know that? I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: did not know anyone would do that? Bus drivers, theater rushers.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: You have to tip shuttle drivers, but you're not supposed
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: to tip bus drivers. This place is crazy, that's what
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. The rules are so like you you don't
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: tip McDonald's, but you do tip the coffee person even
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: though you can get a coffee at McDonald's. Salespeople you
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: don't tip them. And employees at fast food restaurants, air
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: airline flight attendants. I can't believe some and actually wrote
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: down that you don't have to tip them. So, Um,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of federal stuff going on right now,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: my friend, Uh, there's something up. So the the federal
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: tipped minimum wage has been the same since it's at
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: two an hour because of inflation. That whole concept was
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: created in nineteen sixty six. Because of inflation. It's never
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: been less valuable than it is right now relative to
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the cost of living. So it's a big deal for
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: people who make their living, you know, in service industries. Um.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Before Congress right now, there's Hr thirty one, the Working
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: for Adequate Gains for Employment and Services or the Wages Act.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Congress is so clever. Um, but basically it would tie
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: the federal tip minimum wage to sixty of the federal
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: minimum wage. So every time there's a hike, there would
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: also be a hike in the federal TIPMU minimum wage.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: And that act would raise it right now to four
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: thirty five an hour, which is, you know, double what
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: they're making, but still way below just over half of
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: you know, the federal minimum wage. And if you want
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: to go join a group that lobbies on behalf of
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: people who should make a decent wage in the service industry,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: you can check out fair eats dot org, f A
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I R e A t s dot org. And that
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: buddy is a local group. Really there, Atlanta based a
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: lot of restaurants here. I have a list, Josh of
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: best and worst celebrity tippers. Oh nice, Yeah, this is
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: very TMZ, although it wasn't from TMZ. And I hesitate
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: to even read these because take it with a grain
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: of salt. A lot of these stories I don't know
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: for true, and I'm not going to get into the stories,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: but you'll be pleased to know that our ghostbusters Dan
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Ackroyd and Bill Murray are legendary good tippers. Awesome, you
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: would think Drew barrymore great tipper. I could see that
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Russell Crowe kind of surprised me. Apparently Tipper. Apparently he's
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: a really good tipper. I would not have guessed that.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: And the whole smashing your face with the phone incident
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: was out of character for him. Wait, I thought he
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: like got in fights all the time. I don't know.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Drew Carey, good tipper, hul Cogan, Charlie Sheen. I'll bet
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen leaves more than just money as tips. David Beckham,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Johnny Depp apparently really really good tipper. And then I
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: cross reference the list of worst tippers on because there's
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: all sorts of sites where people where you can go
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: as a wait tron and say so until came in
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: my restaurant last night and they did X, Y and Z,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: So I did cross reference some of these. Mick Jagger,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the rock Bill Cosby Is was on every list. I'm
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: sad to say I am not the least bit surprised.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Kirsten dunst weird, Madonna, Tiger Woods was on every list, Usher,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Britney Spears, and Jeremy Piven was on every list. Sean
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Penn really yeah, David Byrne, Dude, this is so disappointing
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: if it's true. David Byrne of The Talking Heads is
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: considered one of the worst tippers ever because apparently he
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: does not tip periods like, oh yeah, I don't tip.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: That is two episodes in a row that feature reser
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: boar dogs. Michael Moore supposedly, what wait a minute. If
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: this is true, Michael Moore, and you are a friend
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: of Michael Morris who listens to stuff, you should know,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: please play this for him. You should be ashamed of yourself,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: sir ashamed. It said once less left than left, left
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: less than twenty dollars on a four fifty dollar bill
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: and see all these though. I say take with a
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: grain of salt though, because because it could just be
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: the ones and the ones who's not had any money.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the server was a big Republican jerk that
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: he didn't like. Because it is Michael Moore. You remember
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: that part, does you see Capitalism a love Story? Yeah?
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: And he's like, hey, I'm looking for some some advice.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: And one of the traders was like, stop making movies.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: It was awest alright, So I'm not gonna embarrass anymore
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: of these bowl like Molly Ringwald and Ricky Lake like
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: being really worried about like her her finances and Rachel
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Ray she was on a bunch of the sites too.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: They said she's cheap. I could see her being cheap too.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not surprised by all them. Don't
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: be cheap people. I mean, you make tons of money,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: spread it around, and I'm those socialists. But come on,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: just bring a little joy into someone's life like Bill
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Murray does. Yeah, but not Bill Cosby. Be more like
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Bill Murray, not like Bill Cosby. Okay, yes, all right,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: that's our big takeaway. That's it for our list of
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: most hated celebrities. If you want to learn more about that,
• 48:37
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• 48:39
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• 48:42
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• 48:45
  Speaker 1: a palindrome or something. Almost didn't it? Uh, let's see,
• 48:49
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• 48:52
  Speaker 1: means it's time for listener mail. Josh, I'm gonna call
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: this one Dueling Vikings. Call it that though from a
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: dude from Viking Land. He says, Hi, guys, just finished
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: listening to the Dueling podcast. I thought i'd share a
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: bit on how they were handled in Nordic countries back
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: when they were pillaging the rest of Europe and berserking
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: at every opportunity. Despite the outward appearance of being crazy
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: axe wielding pirates, the Vikings prefer to keep things civil
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: on the home front. Thus the concept of home gang
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: was created. A home is a small island and gang
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: means to go. So when two parties where odds over
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: an insult a woman or property, they would go to
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: a tiny island or the tip of a peninsula where
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: some similar isolated area to duke get out Viking style.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: They would take a three by three meter square of
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: ox hide, spread it on the ground, and stake each
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: corner and rope between them, much like a modern boxing ring.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Each home gunger typically wielded an axe or a heavy
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: sword and had with him three wooden shields. The challenging
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: party I'm sorry, the channel lunch party would have first strike,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: and they would then proceed taking turns to hammer away
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: at each other, shield broken shields being replaced with the
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: two spares along the way, and the first man struck
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: bodily would typically be considered the loser. Huh. Thanks for
• 50:16
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• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the awesome dudes. You are your friend in biking land. Uh, Yannick, Johnick,
• 50:25
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• 50:27
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• 50:32
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• 50:35
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• 50:40
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• 50:42
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• 50:45
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• 50:48
  Speaker 1: talk about berserkers. Um, let's see. Oh, if you have
• 50:52
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