Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / NBA DFS Process | DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Slate Breakdown | Thursday, 01/22/26
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- 0:05Speaker 1: All systems going clear. We left of.
- 0:36Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody Happy Thursday, talking hoops, my Memoro,
- 0:40Speaker 2: six games on DraftKings, five games on FanDuel. We were
- 0:44Speaker 2: talking a little pre show. Yeah, Rio asked for bigger slates.
- 0:47Speaker 2: We do get some bigger slates, and we get the
- 0:49Speaker 2: Utah jazz. We always love to pick on some questionable
- 0:53Speaker 2: stuff though for some few tags. And it's on a
- 0:56Speaker 2: island at nine pm Eastern. But yeah, I think a
- 0:59Speaker 2: pretty good slate. Rio sounded excited about it. That's always
- 1:01Speaker 2: good Washington Chalk. If I had to describe the slate
- 1:05Speaker 2: sorting my ownership right now, what four of the top
- 1:08Speaker 2: six guys improjected ownership is on the Wizards? They do
- 1:11Speaker 2: lock right away. So interesting slate, excited to go game
- 1:14Speaker 2: by game? How are we doing today? Real?
- 1:16Speaker 1: They're doing good. Looks like a pretty fun slate right
- 1:19Speaker 1: off the bat. Got a a lot of warrior stuff
- 1:21Speaker 1: to talk through. They've been playing really bad lately. Got
- 1:25Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga back into the rotation last game, so we'll
- 1:28Speaker 1: see if that sticks. But yes, pretty pretty fun slate,
- 1:31Speaker 1: some high totals, a couple potential blowouts. Yeah, I wish
- 1:36Speaker 1: that the Wizards weren't getting as much love as they
- 1:39Speaker 1: are right now because I think it's a really good
- 1:40Speaker 1: spot for them. But we'll talk through it, hopefully find
- 1:42Speaker 1: some some pivots around these guys, because it's gonna I
- 1:45Speaker 1: don't think you want to play four or five Wizards
- 1:47Speaker 1: in the first game of the slate.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's very good. That's a big talking point
- 1:52Speaker 2: for sure, since a lot of ownership's going there. My
- 1:54Speaker 2: question is, how does Steve Kurran not play KAMINGA. I
- 1:57Speaker 2: mean he was, he was really good for him yesterday
- 2:00Speaker 2: twenty one minutes, twenty points. He was plus three in
- 2:03Speaker 2: the plus minus category, where like all the starters like
- 2:06Speaker 2: the minus twenty. So how do you not I think.
- 2:09Speaker 1: He has too. I feel like there's a good chance
- 2:11Speaker 1: that he even starts tonight. You just gotta gotta play
- 2:14Speaker 1: it like this. I've been listening to a lot of
- 2:16Speaker 1: podcasts right now because obviously, with Jimmy Butler tearing his
- 2:20Speaker 1: ACL everybody's expecting Cominga to step up, and they're all
- 2:23Speaker 1: talking about his trade value and like this could increase
- 2:26Speaker 1: his trade value. I don't think that that's really the case. Like,
- 2:28Speaker 1: teams know what they're gonna get from Kaminga. At this point,
- 2:31Speaker 1: we've seen him for three four seasons now, so we
- 2:34Speaker 1: kind of know who he is as a player. But
- 2:37Speaker 1: I just feel like, if if the Warriors are gonna
- 2:39Speaker 1: be competitive, you have to replace Jimmy's production. And they
- 2:43Speaker 1: were very reluctant to play those two guys together the
- 2:45Speaker 1: past two seasons since they got Jimmy. So it just
- 2:47Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense for you to start Kaminga
- 2:50Speaker 1: and play him a lot.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, not one hundred percent. I mean him encourage relationship,
- 2:57Speaker 2: camera be repaired or whatever. I don't know what that's about,
- 2:59Speaker 2: but you have to you have to try. He's better
- 3:01Speaker 2: than a lot of the other guys in my opinion
- 3:03Speaker 2: that I think they have. Yeah, Klier, I was laughing
- 3:07Speaker 2: at our guy, Matt. What's up Matt A lot? Huh?
- 3:11Speaker 1: He crushed the other night. Yeah, we're talking about I
- 3:13Speaker 1: think that's a Tuesday Slave where we talked about Carlier
- 3:15Speaker 1: as a pivot over Clayton and he smashed.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Yeah, put in chat again. Yeah, great call there. Matt
- 3:21Speaker 2: wins a lot in here. Rodney Jordan, Little Neck, John
- 3:24Speaker 2: Jose May the Fair buye what's going on? I love
- 3:29Speaker 2: this picture. I saw that Parabde in the discord too,
- 3:31Speaker 2: love that. I'd spent a lot of time since the
- 3:33Speaker 2: one where do I concentrate my attention? Today we'll go
- 3:36Speaker 2: game by game and we'll do our best to to
- 3:38Speaker 2: walk you through the slate. But I would recommend if
- 3:40Speaker 2: you go to if you're a ship a nation member,
- 3:42Speaker 2: and you go to more and go down to education,
- 3:45Speaker 2: check out the NBA video for two hours. You never
- 3:47Speaker 2: know what little things can pop up that said that
- 3:51Speaker 2: clicks with you or whatever, So check that out. Check
- 3:54Speaker 2: out Rio and Cheats, Sabersim videos, Saber series. It is
- 3:58Speaker 2: mainly or it is just the NFL or now, but
- 4:02Speaker 2: it's very detailed oriented and you can apply a lot
- 4:04Speaker 2: of stuff that they talk about from over there too
- 4:08Speaker 2: or from NFL to NBA. So yeah, there's a lot
- 4:11Speaker 2: of videos Saber School. If you sign up for the
- 4:13Speaker 2: daily Pass nine dollars, you get Saber Sim five days
- 4:16Speaker 2: for nineteen dollars. I think that's probably the best deal.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Gets you a lot throughout the weekend, MMA, NBA, NFL,
- 4:24Speaker 2: Big NFL Slate, obviously, MMA back and NHL. So a
- 4:28Speaker 2: lot of big prizes right there. PGA Showdown is going
- 4:31Speaker 2: on right now, and there's definitely an edge in the
- 4:33Speaker 2: showdown streets with multiple courses this week. So yeah, you
- 4:36Speaker 2: check that out five days nineteen dollars. You get all
- 4:38Speaker 2: the education courses and check out real sheets, videos, mess
- 4:42Speaker 2: around and saber sim. That's how I'd recommend. But if
- 4:46Speaker 2: you can't, we just always asked is like button and
- 4:48Speaker 2: we'll talk through this late the best we can. And
- 4:51Speaker 2: I got nothing else there anything, what's up Avery justin
- 4:54Speaker 2: Ricky William, Good to see you guys too, Anything on
- 4:56Speaker 2: this slate, anything you want to talk about before you
- 4:58Speaker 2: go game by game?
- 5:02Speaker 1: No, nothing really that stood out to me. I think
- 5:05Speaker 1: we'll kind of find some things to talk about. I'll
- 5:09Speaker 1: just tell you got to check check your Discord messages
- 5:11Speaker 1: real quick and then we'll jump right in.
- 5:13Speaker 2: But it's hard for the end. All right, sounds good.
- 5:16Speaker 2: I will talk about this game intro it and then
- 5:19Speaker 2: I will check it after. So first game of the
- 5:20Speaker 2: night Charlotte Hornets and the Orlando Magic. We are looking
- 5:24Speaker 2: at five and a half point favorites of the Magic
- 5:26Speaker 2: two twenty three and a half total in this one.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Injuries on the Charlotte sid LaMelo is questionable, Trey Man
- 5:32Speaker 2: is out, Grant Williams is out on the Orlando side,
- 5:35Speaker 2: No Franz Wagner, no jail In Suggs. All I'll say is,
- 5:39Speaker 2: or actually, I'm gonna ask you and you can talk
- 5:41Speaker 2: about it. Is this a real Lamello thumb injury or
- 5:45Speaker 2: whatever it is? Or is it just man? This guy
- 5:47Speaker 2: makes them so much worse and g Ball is out
- 5:50Speaker 2: there shooting off a one leg, it's time to put
- 5:52Speaker 2: him on the bench and see what we can get.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he shot what one for ten in
- 5:57Speaker 1: the first half solutely probably just over ten from three.
- 5:59Speaker 1: So it's like when you know, you like a kicker
- 6:03Speaker 1: misses a field goal and then they like hurt their
- 6:05Speaker 1: leg all of a sudden. I feel like it's something
- 6:07Speaker 1: like that. It's just a management tag. I feel like
- 6:10Speaker 1: they're just trying to find ways to get him nights
- 6:13Speaker 1: off without alarming anything to the NBA. But I mean
- 6:16Speaker 1: it is a back to back. Talked about it yesterday.
- 6:18Speaker 1: He was going to be managing one of these to
- 6:20Speaker 1: get the questionable tag here. So it feels like he's
- 6:23Speaker 1: got a good chance to sit, which would definitely make
- 6:26Speaker 1: this game a lot more appealing than it is right now.
- 6:30Speaker 1: It's a really low total, but there is some value.
- 6:32Speaker 1: I see no appenda popping now as a value. With
- 6:35Speaker 1: Franz Wagner out, I think he's probably going to be
- 6:38Speaker 1: the guy that's starting now. He just got double check. Yeah,
- 6:42Speaker 1: he's projected to start now, So that's definitely interesting. I
- 6:46Speaker 1: didn't really notice that when I was initially writing up
- 6:48Speaker 1: this game. You also get more Wagner back. I think
- 6:51Speaker 1: he returned in the game in Germany against Memphis fourteen
- 6:54Speaker 1: minutes there. Good to see him back. Always liked him
- 6:56Speaker 1: as a player. I would say that the appeal from
- 6:59Speaker 1: this game from fantasy perspective would come from the Orlando side.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Taking away Franz Wagner. Obviously, Suggs still out makes guys
- 7:08Speaker 1: like Polo, Bain and Black their usage rolls a little
- 7:11Speaker 1: bit better. I do like Polo the best of the
- 7:14Speaker 1: three that nine point three K, just because we know
- 7:16Speaker 1: that he's got big upside triple double upside, twenty nine
- 7:19Speaker 1: percent usage rate, twenty six percent assist percentage, fourteen percent
- 7:22Speaker 1: rebounding rate. The point from Minter production is not great,
- 7:25Speaker 1: should be priced a little bit lower from what we've
- 7:27Speaker 1: seen from him just one point one seven with sugs
- 7:30Speaker 1: and Fronds off the court, but it is a pretty
- 7:31Speaker 1: good matchup. The Hornets are a team that has been
- 7:34Speaker 1: playing really good defense as of late, but they are
- 7:36Speaker 1: a bit more vulnerable around the basket. Orlando is one
- 7:40Speaker 1: of the the fourth highest offensive room frequency in the NBA,
- 7:43Speaker 1: so they're just looking to get to the rim. Charlotte,
- 7:46Speaker 1: you can attack at the baskets, so I think it's
- 7:47Speaker 1: a pretty good matchup for Polo there. I prefer Black
- 7:51Speaker 1: over Bain. He's just been the better fantasy producer this season.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Seven point three K I think is a good price
- 7:57Speaker 1: for him. The Hornets are a little bit role with
- 8:00Speaker 1: guards as well, so I think that he's in a
- 8:01Speaker 1: pretty decent spot. And then I do like Penda's a
- 8:04Speaker 1: value at three point ak. That's a really good price tag.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Honestly that we really didn't have a ton of value.
- 8:09Speaker 1: We've seen him have really high minute ceiling twenty seven
- 8:12Speaker 1: minutes thirty one thirty thirty eight over his last four
- 8:15Speaker 1: of his last six games with Fronds out, so he
- 8:18Speaker 1: looks pretty good there.
- 8:20Speaker 2: That's a lot of magic, I will say at ownership
- 8:23Speaker 2: for on this late they're gonna be super low and
- 8:25Speaker 2: you had quite a bit of interest, So I just
- 8:27Speaker 2: found that pretty interesting.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more so like Polo and Jace or sorry,
- 8:33Speaker 1: Penda seemed like the two clear guys, and then it's
- 8:35Speaker 1: like a tear drop down to black and then another
- 8:37Speaker 1: tier dropped down to Desmond Baine. I don't really have
- 8:40Speaker 1: a ton of interest in Bain, but I do like
- 8:42Speaker 1: Polo and Jase.
- 8:44Speaker 2: So what do you have Penda? What like? What? What
- 8:46Speaker 2: do you have? Him projected at twelve point ninety three
- 8:49Speaker 2: sabers in fourteen for us, I'm taking the average at
- 8:52Speaker 2: thirteen six, like you got him what nineteen eighteen.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Or something Fantasy Points was. Yeah, gotta see what the
- 9:00Speaker 1: minutes are. But we should I don't know if we've
- 9:03Speaker 1: updated yet, but we should have him close to thirty
- 9:05Speaker 1: as a starter.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean they're projecting twenty one minutes. That's why.
- 9:09Speaker 2: So this will all be updated. But yeah, that's a
- 9:12Speaker 2: lot of interest. I mean, Paul is definitely gonna be
- 9:15Speaker 2: contrariy and spend And the thing is there is Q
- 9:18Speaker 2: tags later in this late but you just can't focus
- 9:21Speaker 2: on backloading, Like there's just too much appeal in these
- 9:23Speaker 2: early games. So yeah, if you if you only have
- 9:28Speaker 2: like one or two spots after because you're playing Wizards,
- 9:30Speaker 2: and you're like, should I play Paulo? Should I save
- 9:32Speaker 2: a spot? I mean I would just play Paulo and stuff.
- 9:34Speaker 2: There's so many good plays early it's it's hard to
- 9:37Speaker 2: do so on a lot of teams in my opinion. Yeah,
- 9:40Speaker 2: keep going.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Yeah, just going back to the Hornets side, I think
- 9:44Speaker 1: that it's kind of more of a stay away right
- 9:46Speaker 1: now if Lamela were to be in, but if he
- 9:48Speaker 1: if he is ruled out, there's two guys that I
- 9:50Speaker 1: would have interest in, and that would be Calling Sex
- 9:52Speaker 1: and Brandon Miller. The way to attack Orlando, especially with
- 9:55Speaker 1: sugs off the court is with guards, mainly guys that
- 9:58Speaker 1: score and pick and roll. Those are the two two
- 10:01Speaker 1: best pick and role scoring options outside of LaMelo, and
- 10:04Speaker 1: we've seen Consexton is kind of like the main guy
- 10:07Speaker 1: that does really well in the pick and roll. He
- 10:09Speaker 1: should get the start. I think the minutes. There's a
- 10:13Speaker 1: chance that he plays a lot of minutes to night
- 10:14Speaker 1: because some of the guys that would play behind him
- 10:18Speaker 1: normally kJ Simpson and trade Man are out for this game,
- 10:21Speaker 1: so it basically be him as like the lone true
- 10:25Speaker 1: point guard on the roster. I guess you can obviously
- 10:27Speaker 1: run more offense through guys like con Miller and Bridges,
- 10:30Speaker 1: but he's really the only point guard left in the team.
- 10:33Speaker 1: So I think that he'd be a very very solid
- 10:36Speaker 1: value play at four point nine K and would allow
- 10:38Speaker 1: you to get off some of that Wizard's shock as well.
- 10:41Speaker 1: And I think people are gonna be pretty excited to
- 10:43Speaker 1: play the Wizards tonight, so you might get him at
- 10:45Speaker 1: decent ownership. So that's kind of what I'm viewing on
- 10:47Speaker 1: the hornet stuff. Don't really have a ton of interests elsewhere.
- 10:52Speaker 2: I mean, most guys on this leg you're gonna get
- 10:55Speaker 2: a decent ownership discount if they're in like the same
- 10:58Speaker 2: price range is these Wizards get right into that game.
- 11:00Speaker 2: I got nothing more to add, but it's gonna probably
- 11:03Speaker 2: be a little bit to talk about this Denver Nuggets
- 11:05Speaker 2: in the Washington Wizards six and that point favorite of
- 11:08Speaker 2: the Nuggets two twenty six and a half total in
- 11:10Speaker 2: this one. On the Denver side, Jonus Valentunas is questionable.
- 11:14Speaker 2: On the Washington side, no Kulibali aj Johnson's questionable, No
- 11:19Speaker 2: Bagley Vukevich. Yeah, mainly no Kulaballe. So just looking at it,
- 11:26Speaker 2: just sorting point per dollar. So many of these guys
- 11:29Speaker 2: are projecting very very well ownership following nobody on the
- 11:33Speaker 2: Wizzler Wizard. Let's see, six point ak is the highest
- 11:37Speaker 2: priced wizard we got right now, sorting my projection, yeah,
- 11:41Speaker 2: I mean they're obviously pretty thin, so looking at the minutes,
- 11:44Speaker 2: they look strong. I mean take it away, like how
- 11:47Speaker 2: many is too many? You did mention that you don't want.
- 11:50Speaker 2: I don't know what number you said, four or five?
- 11:52Speaker 2: Like optimizers are going to push that on some teams.
- 11:55Speaker 2: So are you gonna make rules and be restrictive? Very
- 11:57Speaker 2: curious to hear where you go with this.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely be a little bit more restrictive on
- 12:01Speaker 1: the Washington stuff. It's just very rare. On slates this big,
- 12:04Speaker 1: you're gonna get four to five guys that hit the optimal.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Even I wanted to check the perfect lineup for last night,
- 12:10Speaker 1: because you did get a lot of really good scores
- 12:12Speaker 1: from Detroit, but only one was on the Winner last night,
- 12:16Speaker 1: So that's kind of that's pretty interesting, Like even Dennis
- 12:20Speaker 1: Jenkins wasn't on the Winner you most likely needed like
- 12:23Speaker 1: three in your single entry contest, probably Duran Jenkins and
- 12:28Speaker 1: Duncan or Sarr Thompson. So I wouldn't say to not
- 12:33Speaker 1: play four or five of these guys in single entry stuff,
- 12:36Speaker 1: but larger field mmm, I think you definitely can be
- 12:39Speaker 1: more restrictive and get away from some of the chalk.
- 12:41Speaker 2: It's really interesting, like we talked about it, you're playing
- 12:45Speaker 2: two different games almost in the single entry high seven
- 12:48Speaker 2: seven seven versus the flag Ship. Wow. Like that. The
- 12:52Speaker 2: Pistons did really well, Like they had a lot of
- 12:54Speaker 2: flames next to them. They were high owned, so just
- 12:56Speaker 2: to hear one of them is on the optimal that
- 12:59Speaker 2: really shows. And with how hop heavy the payouts are nowadays,
- 13:02Speaker 2: like you you want to, I think, get a little
- 13:04Speaker 2: lower owned, a little more off the board than you
- 13:06Speaker 2: might even feel comfortable with their think. So yeah, that's
- 13:09Speaker 2: good stuff.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been I feel like this season, more so
- 13:13Speaker 1: than seasons past, you haven't needed to be perfect most slates,
- 13:17Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of random guys popping up. Like
- 13:20Speaker 1: even if you were to get off of some of
- 13:21Speaker 1: the Pistons shock, you still had to get a lot
- 13:23Speaker 1: right to win. Because we're talking about guys like Landry Shamant,
- 13:27Speaker 1: Micah Peev, and Luke Kerenard who are all probably maybe
- 13:31Speaker 1: at most one percent owned in large field stuff. So
- 13:34Speaker 1: you still need a lot to go right if you
- 13:36Speaker 1: do fade that shock. But it's more so just saying
- 13:39Speaker 1: that you can get away from it if you want to,
- 13:41Speaker 1: and you get a pretty big ownership discount off some
- 13:45Speaker 1: of the guys that you'd play over the Chalky plays.
- 13:49Speaker 1: But yeah, Washington's side or sorry, Denver side obviously a
- 13:51Speaker 1: great spot to attack. It feels pretty pretty narrow on
- 13:55Speaker 1: who you want to play on this team right now.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Especially if Joe Bill is out then that would definitely
- 13:59Speaker 1: complicate things. I don't know. He's a little bit ahead
- 14:02Speaker 1: of schedule for what they initially had for him with
- 14:04Speaker 1: the capstra and it was looking like a four to
- 14:07Speaker 1: six week timeline. This would be three weeks out, so
- 14:11Speaker 1: maybe he sits one more game and then returns in
- 14:14Speaker 1: the next one. But with him back, I would imagine
- 14:19Speaker 1: they go right back to him in the starting lineup.
- 14:20Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of times recently with these teams
- 14:22Speaker 1: where they'll bring these guys off the bench. I feel
- 14:24Speaker 1: like they start Joe Val, just because they've been so
- 14:26Speaker 1: so bad at protecting the basket lately. They're dead last
- 14:29Speaker 1: and rim defense this month, just really really struggling there
- 14:32Speaker 1: with no true center on the roster behind Joe Val
- 14:35Speaker 1: and Jokic, So I feel like they'd go back to him,
- 14:37Speaker 1: and that would likely kick out Spencer Jones in the
- 14:39Speaker 1: starting lineup. I think it would be Jamal Watson, Gordon,
- 14:42Speaker 1: Joe Val, and pick it. I think is what they
- 14:45Speaker 1: is it. Yeah, I think that'd be the five that
- 14:48Speaker 1: they would go with there. In terms of guys that
- 14:51Speaker 1: I'm looking at on the Wizard or the Nuggets side,
- 14:54Speaker 1: Jamal Murray is kind of the clear cut number one
- 14:56Speaker 1: option for me. Wizards are allowing the fourth most fantasy
- 14:59Speaker 1: point to a poisoning point guards this season, Jamal averaging
- 15:02Speaker 1: just under fifty one DK points per game without Jokic,
- 15:05Speaker 1: just went off for forty two points against this against
- 15:08Speaker 1: his team a few games ago, sixty three DK points. Obviously,
- 15:11Speaker 1: the clear upside there for a guy like Jamal Murray
- 15:13Speaker 1: just playing really really high level basketball. Prefer him the most.
- 15:17Speaker 1: And then I have Gordon ahead of Peyton Watson. I
- 15:20Speaker 1: was digging into some of the just like the advance
- 15:24Speaker 1: like tracking stuff for Aaron Gordon, He's been much more
- 15:26Speaker 1: involved as a playmaker over the last five or so games.
- 15:31Speaker 1: The potential assists are way up from his season average.
- 15:34Speaker 1: I think he's averaging like three potential assists earlier this season,
- 15:38Speaker 1: eight and a half over his last five games, shooting
- 15:40Speaker 1: forty three percent from beyond the three point line. So
- 15:42Speaker 1: just a really good role for Aaron Gordon. And he
- 15:45Speaker 1: was two points away from a triple double against the
- 15:46Speaker 1: Wizards last time. I think that the things that he
- 15:49Speaker 1: does well scoring around the basket and then also providing
- 15:52Speaker 1: some playmaking makes him a really really strong play at
- 15:54Speaker 1: seven point one K also very encouraging to see him
- 15:57Speaker 1: get back up to thirty two minutes in each of
- 15:58Speaker 1: the last two games. So like him as the second
- 16:01Speaker 1: best option. I think you can go to Paynton Watson,
- 16:04Speaker 1: but I just don't. I think it's really a big
- 16:07Speaker 1: price tag for him to pay off on this big
- 16:08Speaker 1: of a slate, so it probably won't go there, and
- 16:11Speaker 1: I think that is the cutoff for me for the
- 16:13Speaker 1: Denver side. On the Washington side, I really really like
- 16:18Speaker 1: Alex sar and Keishan George in particular, but I think
- 16:21Speaker 1: Alex Sar is really good at six point ak. Like
- 16:25Speaker 1: I mentioned, the Nuggets really struggling to defend the paint.
- 16:27Speaker 1: I don't think that it gets much better with Joe
- 16:29Speaker 1: Pile out there because he's never been a guy that's
- 16:32Speaker 1: a defensive stopper against opposing centers. And I was just
- 16:35Speaker 1: looking at some of the numbers for Alex Aar. Basically
- 16:38Speaker 1: in every game that he's played twenty nine or more
- 16:41Speaker 1: minutes this season, he's averaging forty four point three DK
- 16:44Speaker 1: points per game in those games. I think like his
- 16:46Speaker 1: low is probably like thirty eight, which is pretty solid
- 16:49Speaker 1: for his price tag, but you have a ton of
- 16:51Speaker 1: ceiling if you run into a game where he's playing
- 16:53Speaker 1: like thirty two to thirty three, and with Marvin Bagley out,
- 16:57Speaker 1: I think that the likely like he's more likely to
- 17:00Speaker 1: play the higher end of minutes tonight, So I think
- 17:03Speaker 1: we get a really strong game from Sar just with
- 17:06Speaker 1: him kind of you eliminate a decent backup center like
- 17:10Speaker 1: Marvin Bagley with for a guy like I don't even
- 17:12Speaker 1: know who would play back up maybe Will Riley or
- 17:15Speaker 1: Anthony Gill. Like those guys aren't NBA talent level players.
- 17:19Speaker 1: Right now. So I feel like Sar playing him thirty
- 17:21Speaker 1: to thirty two minutes makes him an exceptional plate tonight.
- 17:25Speaker 2: Yeah, Saber has it right a thirty one. I like it.
- 17:27Speaker 2: I mean that's a great stat for when he gets
- 17:30Speaker 2: those minutes. What he averages is you can see some
- 17:32Speaker 2: Jose asked in the chat to what's Middleton's minutes? So
- 17:35Speaker 2: I've this pulled up on Sabersim every show and I
- 17:38Speaker 2: love how it like you can sort point per dollar
- 17:41Speaker 2: right next to it. I have minutes the projection in minutes,
- 17:44Speaker 2: which is important that we're referencing, and then this is
- 17:47Speaker 2: fantasy point per minute. Obviously the higher the better. You
- 17:50Speaker 2: see one point three to two that's very elite. Let
- 17:52Speaker 2: me sort on this slate, Gafford, I mean that's irrelevant wemby,
- 17:57Speaker 2: which shows how what of a tier he's in one
- 17:59Speaker 2: point nine, but yeah, sorry, not too far below one
- 18:02Speaker 2: point three too. So yeah, it's a lot of information
- 18:05Speaker 2: on the screen right here. You can see what we
- 18:07Speaker 2: have it projected at, which are ship and nation or
- 18:10Speaker 2: sabers him hasn't projected ship in nation, the ownerships all that.
- 18:13Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean Sorr looks looks great. Then he'll
- 18:17Speaker 2: be the chalky center on him and Wenby like will
- 18:20Speaker 2: be very very popular double center do on this slate
- 18:23Speaker 2: with how much guard and other value we have?
- 18:25Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So to me, it's pretty clear that Sara
- 18:30Speaker 1: is a guy I have the most interesting on Washington.
- 18:32Speaker 1: But then Kishon George is not too far behind him.
- 18:35Speaker 1: He looks like he's playing the same way that he
- 18:38Speaker 1: was earlier this season, where he was just crushing at
- 18:40Speaker 1: the kind of similar price tag. He's more so the
- 18:44Speaker 1: point guard for the team, like obviously bub is more
- 18:47Speaker 1: of like a prototypical point guard, and then you have
- 18:49Speaker 1: Trey Johnson who's a point guard by position only but
- 18:52Speaker 1: more of like a two guard, Milton ken Mixon as well.
- 18:55Speaker 1: But Kishon George is the guy that's running the point
- 18:57Speaker 1: for them. His scoring his way up over last four games.
- 19:00Speaker 1: He has seen an increase in his touch time as well,
- 19:03Speaker 1: averaging twenty one points per game, shooting the ball much better,
- 19:06Speaker 1: adding peripheral stats across the board, averaging five assists and
- 19:09Speaker 1: six rebounds per game. And then he just went off
- 19:11Speaker 1: for twenty nine to five and seven against the same
- 19:13Speaker 1: Denver defense two games ago. So I really like one
- 19:16Speaker 1: of Kishon George or Sorry to have a good game.
- 19:18Speaker 1: If not both, I think they're both very strong at
- 19:21Speaker 1: these price tags. And then you got to talk about
- 19:25Speaker 1: like Bub and Trey Johnson, because these guys are getting
- 19:27Speaker 1: a lot of ownership. Bub is just playing so many
- 19:29Speaker 1: minutes right now, it's really tough to see him failing,
- 19:31Speaker 1: even at five point four K. Like, I don't think
- 19:33Speaker 1: that he's the best permanut producer. He's right around like
- 19:36Speaker 1: zero point eighty three fantasy points per minute with CJ
- 19:39Speaker 1: and Kispur and all these guys off the court, but
- 19:42Speaker 1: he is mixing a lot more. It's basically him and
- 19:43Speaker 1: Kishon George running the point. He has a thirty two
- 19:46Speaker 1: percent on ball percentage over the last seven games, averaging
- 19:49Speaker 1: thirty five and a half minutes per game, which is amazing.
- 19:52Speaker 1: It's a huge increase. He was twenty seven minutes in
- 19:54Speaker 1: every game prior to the last seven, eleven point two
- 19:57Speaker 1: potential assists per game, so it's really hard to not
- 20:01Speaker 1: see a way where he's viable as a fantasy option
- 20:04Speaker 1: playing thirty seven plus minutes a night over the last
- 20:06Speaker 1: three So I think I do have interest in him.
- 20:08Speaker 1: I think trade Johnson you can get away from him
- 20:11Speaker 1: at fifty percent ownership or whatever he's looking at. I mean,
- 20:16Speaker 1: I don't mind the matchup for him, but he is
- 20:19Speaker 1: more of like a three point shooter. The Nuggets are
- 20:21Speaker 1: a team that you want to attack around the basket,
- 20:23Speaker 1: so I think there is a way to get away
- 20:24Speaker 1: from him. For sure, didn't shoot the ball great last
- 20:28Speaker 1: time out, but he's still playing around thirty minutes. So
- 20:30Speaker 1: it's a good, good role for Trey Johnson, but I
- 20:32Speaker 1: just don't really like that he's gonna get so much ownership.
- 20:34Speaker 1: And the same thing for Champennee. I think that his
- 20:37Speaker 1: the high end minutes for him might be a little
- 20:39Speaker 1: bit lower now with Middleton getting healthy. So I think
- 20:43Speaker 1: those two guys kind of have a negative correlation. And
- 20:46Speaker 1: Chris Middleton has kind of had the same a bigger
- 20:50Speaker 1: role than Champagne. He's more of like the three and
- 20:53Speaker 1: D rebounding guy. So I think I prefer Middleton over
- 20:57Speaker 1: Champagne tonight. Don't really have any thing negative saying him.
- 21:00Speaker 1: He fills some weak positions, but he's also getting a
- 21:03Speaker 1: ton of ownership. Middleton shouldn't be super high on I
- 21:06Speaker 1: just want to pull up the ownership real quick.
- 21:08Speaker 2: But I think he will be lower on the twenty
- 21:09Speaker 2: three percent we have or taken the average. Again, it's
- 21:14Speaker 2: it's still earlier in the day. We look at some
- 21:16Speaker 2: of this ownership and don't understand, but we have Champenne
- 21:19Speaker 2: forty seven, Middleton twenty three.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Yeah, that feels like a decent pivot to make if
- 21:24Speaker 1: you're considering one of those guys that power forward, like
- 21:27Speaker 1: Middleton is cheaper and it's not projecting much worse than CHAMPAGNEE.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't necessarily know if that ownership gap will
- 21:35Speaker 2: be that big. Maybe it's like forty four twenty five,
- 21:38Speaker 2: but I do think Champagne will be higher. And I
- 21:41Speaker 2: can comfortably say that anytime a shooter is looking at
- 21:46Speaker 2: sixty percent ownership, I mean an a off shooting night.
- 21:48Speaker 2: He just scored ten Trey Johnson that is two games ago.
- 21:52Speaker 2: So like, I don't hate getting underweight there. How many
- 21:57Speaker 2: are you gonna make any rule? If you had four
- 21:59Speaker 2: wizards in the ship, are you fine with that?
- 22:02Speaker 1: I'm not sure. You got to wait to see how
- 22:05Speaker 1: it looks getting closer to Locke and building, but I
- 22:07Speaker 1: don't think that I would want to come in with
- 22:10Speaker 1: more than two of George Bubb and Trey Johnson. I
- 22:12Speaker 1: feel like those three guys are It's just a lot
- 22:16Speaker 1: of ownership that you're getting with playing all three of them.
- 22:18Speaker 1: And in some ways, like Kishon, George and Bub are
- 22:23Speaker 1: negatively correlated just because they're kind of competing for the
- 22:26Speaker 1: same stats but kind of similar for Trey Johnson. So
- 22:29Speaker 1: I think I want to come in with a max
- 22:30Speaker 1: two of those three guys and have to double check
- 22:34Speaker 1: and see how much Champagne and Middleton are overlapping. But
- 22:37Speaker 1: to me, they feel negatively correlated, So you could be
- 22:39Speaker 1: a max one of those two guys. I think that's it.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Like I'm fine having soar with with three Wizards.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Side negative point zero two according to sabers him Champagne
- 22:50Speaker 2: and Middleton. Oh I was also gonna mention Joe FanDuel
- 22:54Speaker 2: and Draftings big difference Joe Val thirty nine hundred on
- 22:58Speaker 2: fan Duel six point one k on DraftKings, Jovel will
- 23:02Speaker 2: be the chalkiest center more than likely on FanDuel, which
- 23:05Speaker 2: allows you to spend up for guys like Jamal Murray
- 23:08Speaker 2: a lot easier over there. So do uh like the
- 23:11Speaker 2: Wizards will be popular everywhere, but Jovell Murray and Aaron
- 23:15Speaker 2: Gordon will be I mean, Gordon and Murray are getting
- 23:18Speaker 2: ownership on DraftKings too, but there'll be some of the
- 23:20Speaker 2: chalkiest guys on FanDuel. Really big difference. Obviously, you can
- 23:23Speaker 2: only play one center on FanDuel, so something to note
- 23:26Speaker 2: if you're going anywhere. But Joevel, I mean, it's a
- 23:29Speaker 2: big enough slate. It's not like anywhere, but Joevel's low own.
- 23:32Speaker 2: But like sars just power forward. Let me see some
- 23:35Speaker 2: other just centersh man, if you're trying to spend up,
- 23:42Speaker 2: you got to like go to the singoons. The embd's
- 23:45Speaker 2: like really really different stuff. I focus more on a
- 23:47Speaker 2: mid tier pivot or something like that, or play a
- 23:50Speaker 2: star that you can play at center as well and
- 23:53Speaker 2: power forward, play met center something like that. But yeah,
- 23:56Speaker 2: thoughts on Joevel, assuming he starts, he's probably pretty strong.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Three point nine.
- 24:01Speaker 1: Kuh, sorry, who are you talking about Joevel?
- 24:04Speaker 2: If he starts, like a six point one k is
- 24:07Speaker 2: a big price. But on FanDuel, like you're not really
- 24:09Speaker 2: worried good point per minute guys first game back, like
- 24:13Speaker 2: you'd be fine plug him in.
- 24:15Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, that's what I didn't realize was that
- 24:17Speaker 1: cheap on FanDuel.
- 24:18Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's keep a roll. The next game
- 24:20Speaker 2: on the slate, Houston Rockets and the Philadelphia seventy six Ers.
- 24:24Speaker 2: We are looking at. Where is this two and a
- 24:28Speaker 2: half point favorites of the Rockets two twenty one and
- 24:30Speaker 2: a half total. Steven Adams is out for the Houston side,
- 24:33Speaker 2: no one else to note. PG is questionable again for
- 24:37Speaker 2: the seventy six Ers. You were right when you talked
- 24:39Speaker 2: on the show on Tuesday that it wasn't just like
- 24:42Speaker 2: it's not just maintenance or stuff. That he's is banged
- 24:45Speaker 2: up and he missed both of the last two games
- 24:47Speaker 2: when he was questionable. I take it you have no
- 24:50Speaker 2: clue about today. We will get this news obviously before
- 24:53Speaker 2: Lockets seven Eastern. But yeah, I mean this game looks
- 24:56Speaker 2: terrible for DFS. Pretty much two fully healthy teams appropriately
- 25:00Speaker 2: priced I got nothing.
- 25:02Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this one is the lowest over under
- 25:05Speaker 1: on the slate. I believe, Yeah, I mean it's Charlotte
- 25:07Speaker 1: and Orlando are pretty close, but yeah, this one feels
- 25:12Speaker 1: this is the lowest. So it feels it feels pretty gross.
- 25:14Speaker 1: I feel like there are a you can make the
- 25:17Speaker 1: case for the spend ups like Maxie Sangudin Embiid I
- 25:19Speaker 1: think are all in play but not smash plays by
- 25:22Speaker 1: any mean. I think you're gonna get probably better point
- 25:24Speaker 1: per dollars ceilings from some of the other guys at
- 25:26Speaker 1: their positions. The upside for Maxi's that he's playing so
- 25:30Speaker 1: many minutes and it's not a terrible matchup. The Rockets
- 25:34Speaker 1: are giving up a lot of pick and roll scoring
- 25:36Speaker 1: the season. Maxi's like a top ten pick and roll
- 25:39Speaker 1: scorer in the NBA. You're gonna see a lot of
- 25:42Speaker 1: Amen Thompson. I think Maxi and Amen are the two
- 25:46Speaker 1: they lead the league in minutes per game, so you
- 25:48Speaker 1: there's a chance that both these guys just play forty
- 25:50Speaker 1: plus tonight and match each other's minutes, Which is interesting
- 25:54Speaker 1: because obviously Maxi is a great permanent producer. Looked really
- 25:57Speaker 1: tired last game against the Suns, just had I didn't
- 26:02Speaker 1: really do that well either, but kind of grinded his
- 26:05Speaker 1: way to forty one Fantasy points. Forty three minutes on
- 26:08Speaker 1: a back to back is crazy, But yeah, I don't
- 26:10Speaker 1: mind the matchup for him, but not somebody. I'm going
- 26:12Speaker 1: out of my way to play thing for him, Beat
- 26:14Speaker 1: is just that he's matchup proof. It's a really tough matchup.
- 26:16Speaker 1: He's in really good interior defense, so I'm not I
- 26:20Speaker 1: don't like him as much as that like MAXI personally,
- 26:24Speaker 1: and then Seng Gooon, I think that his matchup is
- 26:26Speaker 1: actually pretty decent outside of having some foul risk. The
- 26:29Speaker 1: Sixers are much worse on defense with him Beat on
- 26:31Speaker 1: the court. There one of the worst room defenses in
- 26:33Speaker 1: the league, and over the last six games since returning
- 26:37Speaker 1: from injury, Sengun has seen an uptick in his rebounding rates,
- 26:40Speaker 1: averaging double digit boards in twelve and a half potential
- 26:42Speaker 1: assists per game, so he does have a few different outs.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Even if he's not getting the scoring going, he could
- 26:49Speaker 1: pretty good bed for a triple or a double double
- 26:51Speaker 1: with a chance for a triple double if the game
- 26:54Speaker 1: flows that way for him. So I'm I'm fine with
- 26:56Speaker 1: Seng Gun, and I think Amen is okay as well,
- 26:59Speaker 1: just because he's gonna play so many minutes. Rim defense
- 27:01Speaker 1: pretty weak for the Sixers. I think that he could
- 27:04Speaker 1: get some scoring going, But I don't really like the
- 27:05Speaker 1: price tags for these guys. I just think that it's
- 27:08Speaker 1: kind of a gross game all around, and you can
- 27:12Speaker 1: get you can go back to Ubra because he'll play
- 27:14Speaker 1: a ton of minutes. If Paul George were reported miss,
- 27:16Speaker 1: he's probably playing thirty four plus.
- 27:18Speaker 2: I'll definitely sign up for thirty four minutes of Kelly
- 27:21Speaker 2: Ubra one hundred percent there. So that's the only appeal
- 27:24Speaker 2: I got if there is no PGM, because you're like,
- 27:28Speaker 2: you'd rather Polo over any of these spins, right.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I think I prefer him over sngon similar
- 27:35Speaker 1: I think it's like the same price tag, same position too, So.
- 27:38Speaker 2: Yeah, ownership's low on both guys. Yeah, I guess like
- 27:41Speaker 2: more flagship stuff if you're playing that flagship and you're
- 27:44Speaker 2: playing on a bunch of wizards and stuff, maybe this
- 27:46Speaker 2: is where you get the two percent one percent guy
- 27:48Speaker 2: that goes for sixty eight and is the difference maker.
- 27:51Speaker 2: So it's it's really hard in single entry stuff where
- 27:55Speaker 2: you don't have to be perfect, and more large field
- 27:57Speaker 2: stuff I don't hate. I guess sprinkling the spens, but
- 28:00Speaker 2: definitely does not look great on paper man. This I love.
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- 29:20Speaker 2: definitely a little better game on the slate. You said
- 29:22Speaker 2: you got a lot of talk about the Warriors stuff.
- 29:24Speaker 2: Curious to hear what you have to say. We are
- 29:27Speaker 2: looking at let me refresh five and at point favorites.
- 29:30Speaker 2: The Warriors are favored two thirty four and a half total,
- 29:32Speaker 2: which is pretty good. Gary Payton's questionable. The only thing
- 29:36Speaker 2: there obviously Jimmy's out on the Dallas side. No Daniel
- 29:40Speaker 2: Gafford ownership in this or yeah, we'll go ownership. First
- 29:45Speaker 2: three guys, Steph, POD's Draymond all looking to get a
- 29:48Speaker 2: little bit, but after that, the game's not really looking
- 29:51Speaker 2: to get any ownership. So where do we have kaminga
- 29:55Speaker 2: obviously okay, yeah, he's not projected a start, so a
- 29:58Speaker 2: lot of this changes if he going to start, So
- 30:00Speaker 2: I'll let you talk through it and maybe I'll throw
- 30:03Speaker 2: some numbers in there if he does start or whatnot.
- 30:06Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, it's obviously really gross anytime talking about
- 30:10Speaker 1: a Warriors team on the main slate, it's really tough
- 30:14Speaker 1: to feel confident in them. We even kind of talked
- 30:16Speaker 1: about it last dight, like I had a ton of
- 30:18Speaker 1: putt pods and I was happy to see him starting,
- 30:20Speaker 1: but didn't play well. They got blown out by the Raptors,
- 30:25Speaker 1: and you just don't really know what they're gonna do.
- 30:27Speaker 1: Like I don't think Steve Kurtin knows what he's going
- 30:29Speaker 1: to do going into the game. I don't think that
- 30:31Speaker 1: it was even the plan to play kaminga last game
- 30:33Speaker 1: because he didn't check in until the second quarter, and
- 30:36Speaker 1: then I think Quinn Post didn't see any minutes in
- 30:39Speaker 1: the second half, so it's just a very fluid rotation.
- 30:41Speaker 1: They played twelve guys in the first half, which is
- 30:45Speaker 1: just terrible for dfs. So I don't I don't want
- 30:48Speaker 1: to lean into any sort of ownership I saw like
- 30:51Speaker 1: you said, Draymond, give me one to chalk of your
- 30:53Speaker 1: own guys on the slate, Like he's fine, You're never
- 30:56Speaker 1: really getting buried by playing him. He's really not been
- 31:00Speaker 1: that great as a fantasy producer this season. Does have
- 31:03Speaker 1: the assist and rebounding upside to be in consideration at
- 31:05Speaker 1: his price tag, but I just don't I don't really
- 31:08Speaker 1: believe that he should be worthy of being one of
- 31:10Speaker 1: the highest on plays in the slate personally, so I
- 31:13Speaker 1: probably take him down a little bit. I do prefer
- 31:16Speaker 1: Pods if getting to one of the guys that is
- 31:18Speaker 1: getting ownership because he's only five point three game been
- 31:20Speaker 1: playing really well, has much more upside both from like
- 31:25Speaker 1: a scoring standpoint, but a fantasy production standpoint over Draymond
- 31:28Speaker 1: in my opinion, even if he comes off the bench
- 31:30Speaker 1: or season starting line. But I feel like his role
- 31:32Speaker 1: is pretty solidified and you can attack Dallas with guards
- 31:37Speaker 1: man the guys that are going to be playing on
- 31:38Speaker 1: ball because the Dallas and defense is kind of one
- 31:40Speaker 1: of the biggest gaps from how they give up points.
- 31:43Speaker 1: They're allowing the third least three point frequency in the
- 31:46Speaker 1: NBA while being a bottom seven rim defense. The number
- 31:49Speaker 1: definitely grows a little bit when you take off Ad
- 31:51Speaker 1: take off Daniel Gafford. So the Warriors is going to
- 31:54Speaker 1: have to figure out a different way to score because
- 31:56Speaker 1: the Warriors are first in offensive three point frequency this season,
- 32:00Speaker 1: fourth and rim scoring, So you got to wonder what
- 32:03Speaker 1: it's gonna be the game plan. Dallas kind of sells
- 32:05Speaker 1: out to stop the three so for that reason, kind
- 32:08Speaker 1: of I think it's a little bit of a worst
- 32:10Speaker 1: matchup for Curry, but he can obviously do a lot
- 32:12Speaker 1: more than just shoot. I don't think that we've seen
- 32:16Speaker 1: We obviously have not seen the big ceiling game from
- 32:18Speaker 1: Steph without Jimmy yet, but we know that it's in there.
- 32:21Speaker 1: And nine K is a good price site for a
- 32:23Speaker 1: guy that has like forty plus real points scoring upside
- 32:26Speaker 1: and probably sixty to seventy DK point upside. I just
- 32:30Speaker 1: wonder if it's gonna come in a game where a
- 32:32Speaker 1: Dallas like a Dallas defense is going to try to
- 32:35Speaker 1: stop him shooting the threes. Like maybe it comes with
- 32:37Speaker 1: the peripheral stats. Maybe he adds more assists than normal
- 32:40Speaker 1: and then gets like like twenty eight and ten or
- 32:43Speaker 1: something like that, which we know he's capable of. So
- 32:46Speaker 1: I'm fine with Steph for sure. And then I think
- 32:49Speaker 1: you have to keep an eye on the starting lineup
- 32:51Speaker 1: for guys like Meltson, Moses Moody and Kaminga. Like I
- 32:55Speaker 1: said up top, I feel like there's a chance COMINGA starts,
- 32:58Speaker 1: and if he does, he's way underprice. Even even if
- 33:02Speaker 1: the minutes like are shaky, we know that he's got
- 33:05Speaker 1: a ton of upside, So I'd be playing cominga a
- 33:08Speaker 1: ton if I knew that he was going to be
- 33:09Speaker 1: starting tonight. I feel like four point five k for
- 33:12Speaker 1: how he gets scoring too is a very drive heavy wing.
- 33:15Speaker 1: I feel like he could definitely get some easy points
- 33:17Speaker 1: up against this Dallas defense. I'm interested in KAMINGA for sure.
- 33:22Speaker 2: What a percent do you like? Are you gonna put
- 33:24Speaker 2: him at starting? Are you gonna raise that projection pre
- 33:27Speaker 2: hoping that because it's thirty minutes after lock, assuming it's
- 33:31Speaker 2: right at thirty, If it like the starting line comes
- 33:33Speaker 2: out an hour before forty five minutes, we're all playing
- 33:36Speaker 2: the same game. Everyone knows that. But assuming we don't
- 33:39Speaker 2: have the news, projections don't update, like a lot of
- 33:42Speaker 2: stuff's being locked in early, so you just plug him
- 33:45Speaker 2: and then you just have to make pivots. Obviously you
- 33:48Speaker 2: have Draymond right there. That's a little more expensive, but
- 33:51Speaker 2: there's still later games like forcing yourself to have a
- 33:54Speaker 2: couple of positions open and plugging in KAMINGA. What's your
- 33:57Speaker 2: approach on that.
- 33:59Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably just have to take the chance on it.
- 34:01Speaker 1: I feel like he's in the rotation regardless, so maybe
- 34:04Speaker 1: you take like a like a middling projection, give him
- 34:07Speaker 1: a couple more minutes than he's projected right now, maybe
- 34:09Speaker 1: like the twenty three minute range, that should get you
- 34:13Speaker 1: plenty of him. I feel like, Okay, you also have
- 34:16Speaker 1: the uh, the Spurs guys that you could pivot off of. Yeah,
- 34:19Speaker 1: because they are getting a little bit of ownerships. You
- 34:21Speaker 1: might even be starting with some San Antonio guys. They
- 34:24Speaker 1: are a little bit more expensive. Kelvin Johnson will be
- 34:28Speaker 1: the CLO the most comparable, most comparable position position in
- 34:31Speaker 1: price wise, so you do. Yeah, you kind of need
- 34:34Speaker 1: multiple positions open, but you should have some pieces to
- 34:37Speaker 1: swap on. You got the Minnesota stuff, san Antonio, Wenbee, Castle,
- 34:41Speaker 1: Fox all gonna be getting a good amount of ownership,
- 34:43Speaker 1: so you should have enough to swap onto.
- 34:46Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, especially if you're limiting yourself to
- 34:49Speaker 2: for you Wizards. I mean, if you're if you're gonna
- 34:51Speaker 2: be lighter on that, and then you definitely will.
- 34:53Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's it for the Warrior's side, Dallas,
- 34:57Speaker 1: I'm not too interested in it. I think Flag like
- 35:00Speaker 1: he was supposed to be around twenty to twenty five
- 35:02Speaker 1: minutes in his return with the ankle injury got to thirty.
- 35:06Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 35:07Speaker 1: He had twenty eight in that game against the Knicks.
- 35:10Speaker 1: I don't know where they're gonna settle. It looks like
- 35:13Speaker 1: people are projecting him as full tonight. I would probably
- 35:16Speaker 1: take a more cautious approach there, and he's getting a
- 35:19Speaker 1: little bit of ownerships. I don't really think I want
- 35:22Speaker 1: to go to Flag. The Warriors are playing pretty bad
- 35:25Speaker 1: on defense right now, so there's a chance that somebody
- 35:27Speaker 1: has a good game, but I don't know if it's
- 35:28Speaker 1: gonna be good enough on this late. Flag and PJ
- 35:31Speaker 1: would be the two guys I have the most interest in.
- 35:34Speaker 1: But then also I think Christy deserves a little bit
- 35:37Speaker 1: of love because the Warriors are giving up some more
- 35:39Speaker 1: threes right now over the last two games are given
- 35:43Speaker 1: up like I forgot, the numbers might be in like
- 35:45Speaker 1: the seventeen ish range of threes per game. And he's
- 35:48Speaker 1: just coming off of arguably his best game of his
- 35:52Speaker 1: career eight for ten from three against the Knicks in
- 35:54Speaker 1: the Garden was really really good to see thirty five
- 35:57Speaker 1: minutes there. So he's got high minutes upside and some
- 35:59Speaker 1: pretty good scoring upside. We talked about him a few
- 36:03Speaker 1: weeks ago in like for a showdown where there's been
- 36:07Speaker 1: a lot of positive coach speak from Jason Kidd about
- 36:10Speaker 1: wanting him to take more threes because he's shooting like
- 36:12Speaker 1: forty five forty four percent from deep this season, so
- 36:15Speaker 1: he's just a really, really good shooter. It makes sense
- 36:17Speaker 1: to give him more more looks. I think that they
- 36:19Speaker 1: want him to get up to ten a game, so
- 36:22Speaker 1: there's definitely a lot of scoring upside for him, So
- 36:24Speaker 1: I'll be keeping him in the playpool as well.
- 36:29Speaker 2: Nice. So if you went Christy Steph Pods, is that
- 36:35Speaker 2: that's fine? Three three in this game? Yeah, that's way.
- 36:38Speaker 2: That's way over ownership. I would say I boosted Draymond's
- 36:41Speaker 2: ownership down a little, like he's gonna be owned for sure.
- 36:45Speaker 2: Oh actually the latest update boosted down a little from
- 36:48Speaker 2: forty one to thirty six, so I did refresh and
- 36:50Speaker 2: it's coming in. But I definitely will be owned forty
- 36:53Speaker 2: one percent or like with higher than some of these wizards.
- 36:56Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not necessarily necessarily sold on that, but yeah,
- 37:01Speaker 2: Curry Pods and Christy, there you go. You can play
- 37:04Speaker 2: three in this game at ownership. That'll be very overweight.
- 37:07Speaker 1: What uh what like fantasy projection, would you be upset
- 37:13Speaker 1: for not having Draymond? Or like what if he had
- 37:16Speaker 1: a final score of like thirty three or four? Yeah?
- 37:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean thirty four. I think, Uh, I mean
- 37:27Speaker 2: by you're not like you're not crushed like we just
- 37:29Speaker 2: talked about with the piss and stuff yesterday. So I mean, yeah,
- 37:33Speaker 2: where are you like really kicking yourself? Probably thirty eight,
- 37:36Speaker 2: But I think there's slates where he gets thirty six,
- 37:38Speaker 2: and I can see this being high enough scoring where
- 37:40Speaker 2: he gets thirty six and yeah, I mean like maybe
- 37:44Speaker 2: he's on the team, maybe he's not. A couple teams
- 37:47Speaker 2: in the top ten have him and don't and stuff
- 37:49Speaker 2: like that. What do you think?
- 37:51Speaker 1: Yeah, probably like thirty six plus. I feel like you'd
- 37:54Speaker 1: probably want him.
- 37:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I definitely would want if I know
- 37:57Speaker 2: he's scoring thirty six. I mean, I'm playing eighty five percent.
- 38:01Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, like a known outcome like that,
- 38:04Speaker 2: but I don't think it's ninety five percent to be
- 38:07Speaker 2: optimal on this light. I do think there's enough value
- 38:10Speaker 2: in mid tier stuff for sure that can't compete. I
- 38:16Speaker 2: also think, what are your thoughts here? If Kminga starts that,
- 38:20Speaker 2: that hurts Draymond. His rebounding percent goes down a little bit,
- 38:23Speaker 2: maybe touch time usage or do you see it differently.
- 38:26Speaker 2: I don't.
- 38:27Speaker 1: It wouldn't hurt his rebounding percentage, but probably usage of
- 38:30Speaker 1: usage for sure would hurt everybody, just because he is
- 38:32Speaker 1: a guy that demands pretty high usage. But I can
- 38:36Speaker 1: pull up the numbers of what it actually looks like
- 38:38Speaker 1: when they share the court together. It's it's different than
- 38:40Speaker 1: having Jimmy out there like they're not. It's not a
- 38:43Speaker 1: one for one skill set. It's more so Cominga. They
- 38:45Speaker 1: need him out there for scoring. They don't. They never
- 38:48Speaker 1: really liked having Kminga and Draymond Shore in the court
- 38:50Speaker 1: together just because Cominga is not enough of a floor spacer.
- 38:54Speaker 1: But I think you might just have to live and
- 38:57Speaker 1: like live with what he gives you.
- 38:59Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. I think they're going to have
- 39:01Speaker 2: to try. I think it's better than really their other options.
- 39:06Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep it rolling. Two games left on
- 39:08Speaker 2: the slid. Appreciate him. We're hanging out three hundred watching.
- 39:12Speaker 2: After this game is when I'll make a make a
- 39:15Speaker 2: pretty cool announcement for people. So after this game is
- 39:17Speaker 2: when we'll do that. Very exciting stuff being added for
- 39:20Speaker 2: Ship and Nation. Before that, though, we are talking about
- 39:24Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves eight and NAF point favorites over the
- 39:26Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls two thirty seven and a half total in
- 39:29Speaker 2: this one. Patrick Williams questionable on the Chicago side, Julius
- 39:33Speaker 2: Randall questionable on the Minnesota side. That's pretty big news,
- 39:38Speaker 2: I'll just say, or I'll ask you right away. Do
- 39:40Speaker 2: you have a lean on that? Because a lot of
- 39:42Speaker 2: spots will roster spots will be filled early, and if
- 39:45Speaker 2: there's no Julius Randall like ant who already looks pretty solid,
- 39:49Speaker 2: and I think a good spend would be very elite
- 39:52Speaker 2: nas reed Jaden McDaniels like, there'd be bumps for sure.
- 39:55Speaker 2: So any thoughts on Randall's Q take.
- 39:58Speaker 1: I haven't seen enough of of reporting about his injuries,
- 40:01Speaker 1: so I'm not really sure. But with Minnesota being favored
- 40:04Speaker 1: by eight and a half, I feel like that indicates
- 40:06Speaker 1: that he's in. Chicago's been playing decently as of late,
- 40:09Speaker 1: and they're getting giddiback, so you'd think that the spread
- 40:12Speaker 1: will be a little bit closer, especially Minnesota coming off
- 40:15Speaker 1: of a loss to the jazz you think that the
- 40:17Speaker 1: spread's closer. But yeah, I think that he's probably in.
- 40:21Speaker 1: But like you said, like if you wait around and
- 40:23Speaker 1: you get it right, you're getting really really good ownership
- 40:25Speaker 1: and a ton of production from multiple positions. On the
- 40:29Speaker 1: Minnesota six, I think it's a really strong spot for them,
- 40:32Speaker 1: So I don't really have a strong lean there, but
- 40:35Speaker 1: YE kind of hope that he's out because I like
- 40:37Speaker 1: the Minnesota stuff a lot.
- 40:38Speaker 2: Would you play any Julius Randall? Do you think that's
- 40:41Speaker 2: worth taking the risk on? I guess when you play on,
- 40:45Speaker 2: like you want other pieces to have or like you
- 40:48Speaker 2: want other roster spots to be able to swap and
- 40:51Speaker 2: stuff too. In singletary that's easy, but in your mm
- 40:54Speaker 2: E one fifty, where it's like a little harder to
- 40:56Speaker 2: do that stuff. Are you going to keep Randall's projection
- 40:58Speaker 2: normal and run it whatever you get you get?
- 41:01Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, just because I don't think there's enough enough
- 41:04Speaker 1: places to pivot if you don't if you don't get right, Yeah, okay,
- 41:09Speaker 1: But yeah, like you said, if you play him, you
- 41:11Speaker 1: probably you're probably gonna want like one like to two
- 41:16Speaker 1: other Minnesota guys, a Chicago guy and like one or
- 41:18Speaker 1: two spurs Utah guys, just to give yourself the most
- 41:22Speaker 1: flexibility to change things around, because then you're talking about
- 41:25Speaker 1: getting nasrid at six point two k that might allow
- 41:28Speaker 1: you to get up to Wemby and things like that.
- 41:31Speaker 1: So I think, you know, like if you should probably
- 41:33Speaker 1: be setting some sort of rule to where you can
- 41:35Speaker 1: pivot off of a lot of Julius Randall to these guys.
- 41:38Speaker 2: One hundred percent, uh and to Wemby and then you
- 41:40Speaker 2: can just break down this game.
- 41:43Speaker 1: I think Wemby tonight, but I love Ant two. I
- 41:46Speaker 1: think it's a really great matchup for him, and you
- 41:48Speaker 1: definitely can play both to them. This late is not hard,
- 41:52Speaker 1: yeah uh yeah, So I think this is definitely a
- 41:55Speaker 1: good probably the best game environment as a whole. Like
- 41:59Speaker 1: I think Chicago is playing good enough offense right now
- 42:02Speaker 1: and the Minnesota side are struggling enough defensively. It's where
- 42:05Speaker 1: this game does stay close and we get full minutes
- 42:07Speaker 1: from everybody, and we know that Chicago likes to play
- 42:10Speaker 1: fast places fast paced. Minnesota plays pretty fast as well.
- 42:14Speaker 1: But yeah, there the Wolves are the twenty second ranked
- 42:18Speaker 1: defense over the last two weeks, but third on offense.
- 42:21Speaker 1: Bulls are thirteenth on defense, second in offense over the
- 42:23Speaker 1: last two weeks. I think it's gonna be a little
- 42:25Speaker 1: bit tougher to get DFS worthy scores from the Chicago
- 42:29Speaker 1: side when you add in Josh Giddy, But I think
- 42:32Speaker 1: that they have enough offensive firepower for the game itself
- 42:35Speaker 1: to be close, So I do have interest in the
- 42:38Speaker 1: Wolves for DFS. I'll say that if you're going to
- 42:41Speaker 1: play anybody in Chicago, I think it's going to be
- 42:45Speaker 1: Vouch in a close game. He usually is putting up
- 42:48Speaker 1: a fine enough score, and then some of the guards
- 42:52Speaker 1: like Giddy, and I don't think you're really playing Giddy
- 42:54Speaker 1: coming back after a long absence, but maybe Kobe White.
- 42:56Speaker 1: Wolves are dead last and pick and roll defense, so
- 42:58Speaker 1: that's kind of how you want to attack them with guards.
- 43:01Speaker 1: Kobe White's been playing a lot better lately. I just
- 43:03Speaker 1: wonder how much of a negative impact having Giddy on
- 43:07Speaker 1: the court, because he just demands so much touch time.
- 43:10Speaker 1: He has a ball in his hands so much when
- 43:11Speaker 1: he's out there that you might be it might be
- 43:13Speaker 1: tougher to get a good score from Kobe White at
- 43:16Speaker 1: six point seven k But on the Wolf side, I
- 43:18Speaker 1: think it's much better. I love the spot for Aunt,
- 43:21Speaker 1: very drive heavy guard balls are a huge room funnel.
- 43:23Speaker 1: They have been all season long. They're aligning the fourth
- 43:26Speaker 1: most fantasy points to shooting guards this season. And then
- 43:28Speaker 1: if Randall were to miss, I think he's fine even
- 43:31Speaker 1: with Randall in the lineup, but you get the added
- 43:34Speaker 1: benefit of Randal potentially missing. He averaged fifty one DK
- 43:37Speaker 1: points per game without Randall last season. SE's a plus
- 43:40Speaker 1: three point six usage increase, one point six assists, and
- 43:44Speaker 1: has a one point three to two fantasy point form
- 43:46Speaker 1: into production. So very very strong role for Aunt. If
- 43:48Speaker 1: Randall were to miss. I think Gobert definitely deserves some
- 43:52Speaker 1: attention as well. He averaged just under forty DK points
- 43:55Speaker 1: without Randall last season, and it's a really good matchup
- 43:58Speaker 1: for centers. We've looked attack Vooch all season long. Gobert
- 44:02Speaker 1: is playing really good basketball right now, and I think
- 44:04Speaker 1: he could get some scoring going against the rim funnel
- 44:07Speaker 1: defense like them, They're also allowing a ton of reboundst
- 44:09Speaker 1: opposing centers, So good spot all around for Gobert tonight. Yeah,
- 44:15Speaker 1: and then kind of same thing for Nas, Like Nas
- 44:17Speaker 1: is in play regardless, then you get if random were
- 44:19Speaker 1: to miss, then he would be one of the best
- 44:22Speaker 1: players in the entire slate in my opinion at six
- 44:23Speaker 1: point two K probably don't think I have too much
- 44:28Speaker 1: interest in Dante and Jada McDaniels, but I would if
- 44:33Speaker 1: I knew that Random Ward to be out, I would
- 44:34Speaker 1: be playing a ton of Joan Barringer. I'm not sure
- 44:37Speaker 1: if I pronounced his last name right, but there's been
- 44:39Speaker 1: a a lot of talk from like the Minnesota Beat
- 44:41Speaker 1: Riders about they're asking Finch a lot of questions about him,
- 44:45Speaker 1: and he'll say, like, when guys are in, he's not
- 44:47Speaker 1: gonna play a lot, but when they're out, they'll find
- 44:48Speaker 1: minutes for him. If Random were to miss, then you're
- 44:51Speaker 1: kind of solidifying him as the backup center, which should
- 44:53Speaker 1: be around eighteen to twenty minutes depending on how Gobert
- 44:57Speaker 1: is playing. That'd be really interesting for me because I
- 44:59Speaker 1: think he's he's got a ton of upside just in
- 45:02Speaker 1: the in the NBA, but for sure from fantasy production standpoint,
- 45:06Speaker 1: he looks like a pretty pretty solid fantasy producer. So
- 45:09Speaker 1: I'd have interest in Barringer if I knew early on
- 45:11Speaker 1: that ran over to miss.
- 45:13Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why you come and watch Rio Talks and NBA.
- 45:16Speaker 2: No one is talking about John Behringer today, John Johan,
- 45:20Speaker 2: what is it?
- 45:21Speaker 1: I think it's Joan. His last name might spell there,
- 45:26Speaker 1: might be pronounce a little differently.
- 45:27Speaker 2: That's Joan Barringer.
- 45:29Speaker 1: I know, i'f a little next in here. He can
- 45:31Speaker 1: tell us because he's the Wolves guy.
- 45:34Speaker 2: The thing about him, I mean, it's it's so hard
- 45:38Speaker 2: to get him on the main slate because there's two centers. Granted,
- 45:41Speaker 2: one of them is like Stars really strong early, Wemby's
- 45:45Speaker 2: really strong late, but like none of them are value.
- 45:47Speaker 2: Like you'd have to get this news at some point
- 45:50Speaker 2: and have like four open spots or whatever, and then
- 45:53Speaker 2: I mean you can flip it if you have like
- 45:55Speaker 2: Wemby and no aunt and then you get Randall. You
- 45:58Speaker 2: could play Barringer at the center instead of Wemby or
- 46:02Speaker 2: at the util position if you already played someone else.
- 46:04Speaker 2: Then you spend up at other spots that you have
- 46:06Speaker 2: more value and make it work. I mean, I don't know,
- 46:09Speaker 2: plan it out. It's a lot easier to plan with
- 46:11Speaker 2: your single entry type stuff. He's gonna be like point
- 46:14Speaker 2: zero five percent. Maybe it's not the slate. I mean,
- 46:18Speaker 2: if he does get the start, or like some you
- 46:20Speaker 2: wouldn't even get the start. But if Julius Randall's out,
- 46:25Speaker 2: I still think you would probably be like two percent,
- 46:27Speaker 2: regardless of what he's projected. If that so, that's interesting.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Shout out to Rio for a hit in GEM maybe,
- 46:33Speaker 2: but it's harder to get. I think the more interesting
- 46:35Speaker 2: things is just playing Nas, just playing Ant, just playing
- 46:39Speaker 2: go Baer. I mean, they're not bad plays even if
- 46:41Speaker 2: Randall's in, and you get really big bumps if they're out.
- 46:44Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the Timberwolves are really good on
- 46:46Speaker 2: this late you have to prioritize them being an hour
- 46:49Speaker 2: later than these first games at Lock that are appealing.
- 46:53Speaker 2: And yeah, it can only get better for him if
- 46:55Speaker 2: there is no Randalls, So I think it's strong. Clicking
- 46:58Speaker 2: a Chicago name seems very difficult to me though, with
- 47:01Speaker 2: gideiback All. Right, now that we got one game left, Rio,
- 47:06Speaker 2: I think it's time to introduce drum roll. Drum Roll.
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- 47:51Speaker 2: six players against the defense at that position will be here.
- 47:56Speaker 2: So today Utah is the worst against point guard Darren
- 48:00Speaker 2: Fox is the number one on that sheet. Yeah, you
- 48:03Speaker 2: can keep explaining it or if I misspoke at all,
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- 48:32Speaker 2: NBA Defense versus Position yet anything you want to.
- 48:36Speaker 1: Say, no, yeah, you broke it down beautifully. This is
- 48:38Speaker 1: something that we had kind of tabled over the last
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- 48:44Speaker 1: add it, but me and some of the guys behind
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- 49:26Speaker 2: This is a very good question. What's the duration. It's all,
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- 50:30Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs Oop let me refresh as quick, and
- 50:34Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz. It's actually not the last game of
- 50:38Speaker 2: the night. There's two games later and the showdown content,
- 50:40Speaker 2: but for the main slate, it's the last game. Twelve
- 50:43Speaker 2: and n point favorites are the Spurs two thirty six
- 50:45Speaker 2: and a half total in this one. Spur side Luke
- 50:48Speaker 2: Cornett is questionable, soak or so can no Cornette out
- 50:52Speaker 2: soacan questionable really doesn't mean too much. On the Utah side,
- 50:57Speaker 2: marketing is still out and then Bryce sense the ball
- 50:59Speaker 2: and George are questionable. Yeah. I mean, if there's no
- 51:03Speaker 2: Keyante Collier, Matt Boy, he's probably gonna play him even
- 51:07Speaker 2: without the news. It's on an island though, it's one
- 51:09Speaker 2: hour after every other game, so yeah, I guess just
- 51:13Speaker 2: take it away, like can you can you play Kiante?
- 51:16Speaker 2: How can you go about these Q tags? Obviously, Spurs
- 51:19Speaker 2: side looks strong though, and Wemby will be one of
- 51:22Speaker 2: the more popular players on the slate.
- 51:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the Jazz, I mean, anytime they're
- 51:28Speaker 1: on a slate, you're gonna have a lot of interest.
- 51:30Speaker 1: On the other side of the game, Jazz have been
- 51:33Speaker 1: playing some competitive basketball lately, but there also is a
- 51:36Speaker 1: ton of blowout risk here and I think you would
- 51:39Speaker 1: kind of be pretty upset if you played Wemby or
- 51:42Speaker 1: Cash or Fox in a blowout because you're not getting
- 51:44Speaker 1: obviously not getting the full run. But it's the kiante
- 51:48Speaker 1: q tag matters a ton because I think they would
- 51:50Speaker 1: be it's gonna be really tough for them to stay
- 51:52Speaker 1: competitive without him out there. Losing your best scorer and
- 51:57Speaker 1: probably the best player on the team now would obviously
- 51:59Speaker 1: be bad. But if all things were equal, and I
- 52:03Speaker 1: know I'm getting full minutes from all the guys in
- 52:05Speaker 1: the Spurs, I have a ton of interest in all
- 52:07Speaker 1: of them, but Wemby I think is really really good.
- 52:09Speaker 1: The Jazz are dead last or one of the worst
- 52:11Speaker 1: three point defense in the league. I believe they're BTTOM three,
- 52:14Speaker 1: giving up a ton of transition scoring, high turnover team.
- 52:17Speaker 1: Spurs are playing really good on both ends of the court,
- 52:20Speaker 1: top six defense over the last two weeks. Kind of
- 52:21Speaker 1: struggling a little bit on offense. But Wenby is getting healthier,
- 52:25Speaker 1: got up to thirty minutes last game. I think the
- 52:27Speaker 1: way that you want to attack the Spurs with Wemby
- 52:29Speaker 1: on the court, it's really tough to get to the
- 52:31Speaker 1: basket while he's out there. Obviously, just a huge human
- 52:33Speaker 1: being really great shot blockers, so you're gonna want to
- 52:35Speaker 1: attack them with three point shooters. Jazz don't really have
- 52:39Speaker 1: a ton of great ones outside of Kiante. I think
- 52:41Speaker 1: Ace is pretty solid. Vas Okay, Philkowski can stretch it,
- 52:45Speaker 1: but since Bah, it's kind of the big one. With Loriot,
- 52:48Speaker 1: he's the guy that is the best from beyond the arc,
- 52:50Speaker 1: but he's also questionable. Yeah, I mean, I'll talk to
- 52:55Speaker 1: the Jazz stuff first, because if Kant is out, you're
- 52:57Speaker 1: definitely gonna want to have interest in Isaiah Collier. I
- 52:59Speaker 1: think he's gonna play regardless. Like the backup point guard
- 53:03Speaker 1: minutes are flip flopping a ton when when Collier is
- 53:06Speaker 1: not starting. They did that a couple of times where
- 53:09Speaker 1: he had him starting over speed, which kind of solidifies
- 53:12Speaker 1: Walter Clayton Junior's minutes. But if Collier is coming off
- 53:15Speaker 1: the bench, then it's just a coin toss on who
- 53:17Speaker 1: it's going to be getting the backup punt guard minutes.
- 53:19Speaker 1: I don't think that Clayton will would even check in
- 53:22Speaker 1: until the eight minute mark in the second quarter. That's
- 53:25Speaker 1: what I saw the last time Collier was off the bench.
- 53:28Speaker 1: But yeah, if Kiante's out, I expect Collier to start.
- 53:31Speaker 1: Clayton Judor would pick up a pretty big role off
- 53:33Speaker 1: the bench as well. Those two guys would be the
- 53:35Speaker 1: main value pieces I'm looking at. But if you are
- 53:39Speaker 1: playing Kiance or Nurkic, you definitely want to pair them
- 53:42Speaker 1: up with some Spurs guys just to give for one,
- 53:44Speaker 1: to give yourself some outs to play some value if
- 53:48Speaker 1: Kiante is out. But also those guys are getting there
- 53:51Speaker 1: in a close game environment, so you're getting full run
- 53:53Speaker 1: from the Spurs guys as well. So that's what I'd
- 53:55Speaker 1: be looking to do if at least one of Kyanti
- 53:57Speaker 1: or nurk at least at least one maybe two of
- 54:01Speaker 1: like Wemby Castle Fox, probably even tossing the Champagnee in
- 54:05Speaker 1: there as well. Yeah, I don't really have a lot
- 54:09Speaker 1: to add on the Utah Siur right now. I feel
- 54:11Speaker 1: like you can play Ace at five point four K
- 54:15Speaker 1: because he's starting and playing a lot of minutes right now.
- 54:17Speaker 1: It's honestly playing really well. The numbers, like the Fantasy numbers,
- 54:20Speaker 1: haven't been great. You're not really getting like huge outcomes
- 54:23Speaker 1: from him. But yeah, he's been fun to watch and
- 54:26Speaker 1: he had some pretty sick highlight plays last game, so
- 54:29Speaker 1: I think he's okay, not great. I definitely have a
- 54:32Speaker 1: lot more interests in Spurs. I think Wenby is an
- 54:34Speaker 1: elite option at nine point seven K if I knew
- 54:37Speaker 1: that he was playing full minutes tonight. Just has a
- 54:39Speaker 1: lot of ways to get to get there. He's rebounding
- 54:41Speaker 1: the ball well, shooting the ball a lot better. I
- 54:45Speaker 1: think you put up what thirty three to ten and
- 54:47Speaker 1: one against the Jazz the last time they faced four
- 54:50Speaker 1: stocks in that game, just under sixty DK points. He's
- 54:53Speaker 1: averaging just under fifty seven DK points in twenty seven
- 54:56Speaker 1: minutes versus the Jazz this season, so that's like over two.
- 55:00Speaker 1: It's two fantasy points per minute, which is just crazy
- 55:02Speaker 1: for anybody. But yeah, Wenby is a guy that can
- 55:05Speaker 1: do that, so I do have interest in him for sure.
- 55:08Speaker 1: Castle and Fox are in a great spot. If you
- 55:10Speaker 1: look at the DVP sheet, they'll be at the top
- 55:12Speaker 1: of the list. I like those both those guys. A
- 55:15Speaker 1: ton Castle's had the slightly stronger role this month, a
- 55:18Speaker 1: little bit more touch time, slightly more assist and potential
- 55:21Speaker 1: assists per game. Rebounding edge it goes to Fox and
- 55:25Speaker 1: Fox has had the better track record against Utah this season.
- 55:28Speaker 1: He missed one game but put up forty one DK
- 55:30Speaker 1: points the last time they faced off. For his Castle
- 55:33Speaker 1: in that thirty four range, there's a little bit, a
- 55:36Speaker 1: little bit of leverage playing Fox over Castle. He's more
- 55:38Speaker 1: expensive and half of the ownership. I do like Castle
- 55:42Speaker 1: more just because I think that he's got a much
- 55:45Speaker 1: higher upside when he does get there. He has more
- 55:47Speaker 1: rebounding and assist upside on a regular basis. But I
- 55:51Speaker 1: definitely will get some Fox tonight. I'm fine playing those
- 55:54Speaker 1: guys together, but I think it's gonna be a max
- 55:55Speaker 1: two of Wenby Castle on Fox. Then Harper should be
- 55:59Speaker 1: tossed into the group with Cason Fox. It's a max
- 56:01Speaker 1: two of those three guards, and I think that he
- 56:03Speaker 1: is in play as well. Has a little bit of
- 56:05Speaker 1: chance to play blow out run playing back to like
- 56:08Speaker 1: the low twenties minutes again and it's a really great
- 56:10Speaker 1: spot for guards, So he's definitely in play.
- 56:13Speaker 2: I'm not sure I quite believe this ownership though. On
- 56:18Speaker 2: the Spurs, I believe Wemby's and I believe I mean Castle.
- 56:24Speaker 2: We might even be a little light on a twenty one,
- 56:26Speaker 2: but I don't think Harper is thirty two or yeah,
- 56:28Speaker 2: Caldon's twenty four, Fox is twenty four. Like what do
- 56:32Speaker 2: we have? What's Washington? I mean they did bump Washington's ownership,
- 56:38Speaker 2: so we have been getting some updates, so I do
- 56:40Speaker 2: like to see that. Do you do you have any
- 56:41Speaker 2: takes on that spurs? And I am I off on it.
- 56:43Speaker 2: Do you think Harper and Caldon and Fox are really
- 56:46Speaker 2: this high own and there's no way Castle's the fifth
- 56:48Speaker 2: highest spur?
- 56:49Speaker 1: I mean no, yeah, he'll he'll probably be probably the most.
- 56:54Speaker 1: I think he probably gets the most ownership.
- 56:55Speaker 2: Maybe Webby but maybe maybe it's uh.
- 57:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just running some lamps right now to see
- 57:03Speaker 1: if they're even hitting optimals because they're not projected like
- 57:06Speaker 1: elite values by any means, so it could just be
- 57:09Speaker 1: like a slate thing. But you do we have Penda
- 57:12Speaker 1: now as a cheap, cheap forward, and then those the
- 57:17Speaker 1: Washington guys, you'd be surprised if they come in as
- 57:19Speaker 1: highs they're projected. It's probably gonna be maybe five points
- 57:23Speaker 1: less for each one.
- 57:24Speaker 2: It is uh like you said though, if you are
- 57:26Speaker 2: trying to get the Randall stuff right, like if he
- 57:29Speaker 2: misses them playing some nas reads or I mean, like again,
- 57:33Speaker 2: you can play those guys kamingas. Maybe that's a little
- 57:35Speaker 2: better option, I guess at five point thirty if we
- 57:37Speaker 2: don't get the news, but like you can just revert
- 57:40Speaker 2: to the Spurs game, like a lot of these guys
- 57:42Speaker 2: are solid plays, and like maybe even some of the
- 57:45Speaker 2: thinner not thinner, but Likekeldon's or like these guys if
- 57:49Speaker 2: it does bowl out, who uh, which some of these
- 57:52Speaker 2: guys are getting normal rotation that will play a little
- 57:55Speaker 2: blowed or a little later into the game.
- 57:56Speaker 1: Any of these guys like ah, I remember, Yeah, it'd
- 58:02Speaker 1: probably be Harper and Carter Bryant are the only two.
- 58:05Speaker 2: And it's hard to play Carter bryan right now. So
- 58:07Speaker 2: Harper is the one that you feel best set there.
- 58:09Speaker 2: That's value though, But if it was in the utail position,
- 58:12Speaker 2: he's four to two and Kaminga's four to two or
- 58:14Speaker 2: four to four, four or five. Yeah, so I mean
- 58:18Speaker 2: that if you had in utail, could be a direct pivot.
- 58:20Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm just thinking it through. Obviously, Washington stuff
- 58:24Speaker 2: is really strong. Contrarian spend this Utah Philly or Houston
- 58:28Speaker 2: Philly game bad Some contrarian spens if you want low
- 58:31Speaker 2: ownership though first game Paulo, the LaMelo news is important
- 58:37Speaker 2: though if he misses some stuff would be opened up
- 58:39Speaker 2: on Charlotte' stuff. There really is just no spens on
- 58:42Speaker 2: the slate when you sort by salary, Tyrese MAXI ten K.
- 58:46Speaker 2: But then Jamal Wemby, I mean you have Wizard's value,
- 58:49Speaker 2: you have value on the slate, and you don't really
- 58:51Speaker 2: have too many spends. So it's kind of going to
- 58:53Speaker 2: be more concentrated of a six game slate then than
- 58:58Speaker 2: most six game slates I think. But yeah, I really
- 59:01Speaker 2: like your point about yesterday and the Pistons only one
- 59:03Speaker 2: being on the winner in the flagship versus four. I
- 59:06Speaker 2: think you said, like they had good games, but how
- 59:08Speaker 2: many people in your contest one fifty max versus single
- 59:11Speaker 2: entry versus three max payout structures all that's really important
- 59:15Speaker 2: to look at and should kind of steer you in
- 59:18Speaker 2: which direction, whether it be more chalky, to get more different,
- 59:21Speaker 2: take more chances back loading all that stuff. So great
- 59:24Speaker 2: job Rio as always. Any other final thoughts. Very excited
- 59:27Speaker 2: to get that DVP automated tool up there as well,
- 59:32Speaker 2: and again that's going to be refresh based on projected
- 59:35Speaker 2: starting lineups right now. When they come in, it will
- 59:37Speaker 2: constantly be refreshed. So yeah, anything anything else for you?
- 59:41Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I just want to clarify it was there
- 59:43Speaker 1: was two on the winner in the large field GVP.
- 59:46Speaker 1: I was talking about like the perfect lineup because oh okay,
- 59:49Speaker 1: I like to check that. Yeah, there's only only one there, okay.
- 59:52Speaker 2: Yeah, and then when there's a couple point five people
- 59:54Speaker 2: percent people like that, you don't know, you don't necessarily
- 59:57Speaker 2: need those. So two were on the winner.
- 59:58Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean like three thirty was the winning score
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: in the main tournament and the perfect line was like
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: three sixty one, so nobody was getting close to that.
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- 1:00:43Speaker 2: So it's good Broncos here, yeah, great where you can win.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: The Broncos started off. Go Broncos. Gostdham, Rio and I
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- 1:00:53Speaker 2: it's cheering for the pockets. But that's gonna do it
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: for us. Good luck everybody in the NBA streets tonight.
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- 1:01:04Speaker 2: Poor Rio, I'm titled town. Good luck tonight, be saved.
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