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Drive Thru News #31 - Season-3 FINALE! (Showcase: ROLEX-24 HOURS) · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to drive through episode number 31.
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  This is our monthly recap where we put together a menu of automotive,
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  motorsport, and random car adjacent news.
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  After some minor Technical difficulties.
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  Are you guys ready for this?
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  Yes.
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  I can now fully concentrate on my unpreparedness that my technical
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  difficulties are resolved.
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  All you did was buy time.
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  So Brad could read the articles this month.
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  And you know how many articles I read?
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  Zero.
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  How many more is that than usual?
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  Bingo.
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  Now let's pull up to window number one for some news.
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  Just news.
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  Just news.
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  That's it.
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  All we have is news.
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  Well, we've got news about some of the stuff we've been doing.
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  Let's talk about Rolex.
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  Oh yeah.
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  Let's do that.
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  I'm not talking about the watch, although the watch is involved.
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  I mean, like the actual race, the Rolex 24 hour race in Daytona.
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  It has been five years since we have been to Rolex in person.
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  Although we religiously watch it every year, regardless of what's going on.
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  This is the first time we've been there on purpose, right?
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  In person.
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  This is also Tanya's, if I'm remembering correctly, her first
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  official professional race attendance.
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  Endurance race, sports car race.
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  Not professional because I've been to F1 twice.
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  That's true.
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  Endurance.
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  That's right.
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  Endurance specifically.
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  And?
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  And?
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  Let's get her thoughts.
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  Florida side.
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  No, just kidding.
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  They'll be talking about Florida, man.
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  No, it was fun.
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  I think it's more accessible, is probably the first word that comes to
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  mind, more accessible to someone versus having had the experience multiple
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  times of going to a Formula One race where now the tickets are even way
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  more expensive than when I ever went.
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  And then you're there for such a brief time.
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  You don't get access to anything.
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  This is the complete opposite, where basically, if your feet can take you
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  there, you can go there, and it's way more affordable in terms of ticket price and
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  what that's granting you access for, and even if you went all out on everything
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  that you could get access for, it still pales in comparison to a Formula 1 ticket.
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  I don't know how that compares.
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  To NASCAR or other forms.
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  I've never been to a NASCAR race either, but it was definitely
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  an interesting experience.
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  I will say what I didn't expect was the car show that was
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  happening at the same time.
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  Oh, in the paddock in the paddock parking lots and even like the
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  parking lot outside of the venue.
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  It was like everybody.
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  Came from somewhere, tons of different out of state tags or, you
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  know, different specialty place.
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  They pulled their garage queens out of the garage and took
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  them for a stroll to Daytona.
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  That's aside from marks that had specific corrals, like the Porsche Corral, BMW
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  had a Corral, and et cetera, et cetera, where they're showcasing You know, members
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  cars and whatnot, but still, like, if you're just walking around the parking
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  lots, people had some pretty cool stuff.
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  And so I wasn't expecting that.
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  I didn't know that was a thing, but that was pretty cool.
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  So there's a whole other experience of not just watching the race, but
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  car watching as you walk through the infield and around the outside.
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  I always feel like events like Rolex, petite salons, other ones that we've been
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  to, it's more family feeling because even when you wander around the infields or
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  the outfields, like places like Rhode, Atlanta, there's people everywhere.
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  They're camping all over the place, bonfires parties.
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  I mean, the longer the race, the more chaotic it is.
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  You don't get that same experience.
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  Like you said, in an F1 race, that's 90 minutes and it's over.
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  I mean, there's other races that happen, you know, headliners and
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  things like that, that go on at those other races, but it's very different
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  in that endurance IMSA setting.
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  Yeah.
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  There's other races.
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  Cause I don't really have like Porsche cup races or vintage races, blah, blah, blah.
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  And like the Saturday before formula one and, or in the morning,
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  those go by really quick too.
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  Yeah.
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  45 minute hour races or something.
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  It's like, okay.
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  By time you've found your seat and sat down, it's like half the race is over.
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  This is a lot harder.
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  Well, at least the Austin track is a lot harder to kind of navigate around.
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  You know, Tanya mentioned how the track was very accessible,
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  much more accessible than.
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  Say Austin, but dare I say it wasn't really from a walking standpoint, it was
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  kind of one way in one way out to get to the infield, which is kind of frustrating.
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  Basically, if you're on one end of the track, you've got to
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  basically walk all the way around.
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  The entire infield to get to the outfield or to get to the stands and vice versa.
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  So if you do decide to go to Rolex, Daytona, make sure you
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  bring your walking shoes with you.
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  Cause you're going to need them or take the trams or take the tram
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  with 15 million other people that are doing the exact same thing.
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  That's pretty simple to navigate around Daytona and it's a 24 hour race.
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  So there's always something going on.
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  So there's always something to see.
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  And the visibility of the track is pretty good.
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  Multiple spots, you're always with the action.
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  So to speak, that helps.
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  So there's zero elevation change at Daytona.
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  Yes, you are the elevation change.
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  When you're in the grandstands, the elevation change was like walking
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  through the tunnel to like, go under the oval and come back out the other side.
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  From that perspective, you're right.
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  Daytona plus the infield.
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  It's a pretty simple configuration compared to something more challenging
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  like the Glen or road Atlanta, but still the experience when you go to
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  those other tracks is very similar.
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  Though those races are shorter.
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  The support races are quite long.
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  I mean, well, let's take Watkins Glen as an example.
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  The official race is six hours long, but the Tioga downs race is four hours.
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  So you're there in the day for 10 hours of GT racing.
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  Even though it's, you know, they're not consecutive, it's just different
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  groups running throughout the day.
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  And then there's the other support races and headliners that go with that.
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  So IMSA events are just action packed from sunup to sundown in
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  some cases, multiple times over.
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  You can't knock the value for money.
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  No, it was like what?
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  75 bucks for the tickets.
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  75 for how many hours of actual legitimate racing.
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  Yeah, it's ridiculous on top of that this year was the biggest field in Rolex
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  history and like the longest time 61 cars started on grid amazingly enough.
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  Daytona is so big it didn't feel like we were watching cars on the beltway running
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  around and getting in each other's way.
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  And obviously traffic splits up throughout the day and throughout
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  the evening and conditions change and things happen in cars break.
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  But.
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  It was pretty exciting to see everybody mixing it up.
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  And obviously we have new classes, new cars, new everything.
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  I felt the racing personally, it was like a long test weekend because there
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  were so many breakages, so many new cars, some of the cars, I think we're a little
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  disappointing and maybe they'll get better throughout the season as, especially
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  as we get closer to Lamont's I'm not as familiar with that whole balance of
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  power thing or balance of performance, excuse me, whatever you want to call it.
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  It was just.
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  Often frustrating to watch, because to watch lap after lap of Go Iron Dames, the
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  all female team driving the Lamborghini Huracan, to watch that car lap after
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  lap not be able to get around a 911, I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
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  When in real life, that Huracan would destroy that 911.
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  After other conversations, Tanya was very disappointed in the lack of a manual
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  transmission in any of the vehicles.
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  That's been a while since they've had manuals in those cars.
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  What the hell kind of race cars are these?
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  What's the point?
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  They don't even shift their own gears.
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  Exactly.
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  We need another point of failure.
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  Maybe we should throw some amateurs out there.
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  It would make the racing more interesting.
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  You miss a shift.
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  I mean, you've blown that lap, right?
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  And somebody gets around you.
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  That is frustrating.
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  And that's what we complain about a lot.
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  Complain is a strong word, but I have an issue with it.
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  I mean, some people like it.
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  Balance of power is great for television, but I feel as though, you know,
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  interviewing drivers over the course of this last season and talking to other
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  people, the consensus often seems to be that, you know, a it's out of their
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  control, the sanctioning bodies make all those decisions, but It's not racing
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  as racing was intended to be years ago.
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  It's like, if your car can't compete, build power to weight or
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  whatever, build a better mousetrap when it comes down to it, it hampers
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  innovation, the technological leap.
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  And I guess that's where racing series like F1 and IndyCar come into play because
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  they do have those less restrictions and they don't have a balance of
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  performance or something like that.
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  It's a giant BOP because.
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  They're basically spec races.
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  All formula cars are the same.
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  We're going to talk about them more when we talk about the unveiling
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  of the 2023 cars and stuff and the Indy cars are the same.
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  It's like, it's 2 chassis and you know, 2 motors and everybody
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  basically drives the same car.
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  So sports car is always been grounded in the manufacturers are coming to the
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  table to do battle with one another.
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  But as soon as balance of power became what it is today, I think we
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  lost some of, to your point, Brad, that ingenuity, that imagination.
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  Like I've joked before, you don't see the six wheel TRLs and the
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  chaparrals with the fans on the bottom with the front wheel drive Nissan.
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  Exactly.
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  All that stuff is just gone.
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  You know, watching the Corvette C8.
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  I'm not really impressed with that car.
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  I'm a Corvette, a team Corvette fan, but I'm not really impressed with the C8 R
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  bring back the C7 R although I will say.
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  The pit crew was doing a phenomenal job.
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  The car would get passed two or three times by the Aston
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  Martin, kept getting around them.
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  And then they pull into the pits at the same time.
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  The Corvette was consistently out in front of the Aston
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  Martin, every single pit stop.
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  So the pit crew was on point, but the car itself just could not.
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  Hold it.
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  Disappointing.
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  I will say it's more fun to watch on TV with a group of friends sitting
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  around smoking and joking, as they say.
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  But one thing I do love about the EMSA series is the speed differentials between
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  the classes, the prototype one, the prototype two cars, the fact that they're
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  after, what is it, three or four laps, they're lapping the GT cars is insane.
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  And they're all out there racing together.
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  It's just.
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  Coverage on TV is better, right?
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  They're giving you all the angles, but you can't really.
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  Fathom the closing rates, you know, the breaking speeds into the corners, things
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  like that, when you see it live and the sound itself, we've talked about that
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  before, a totally different experience.
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  Speaking of the sound, something was missing this year.
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  And I think, you know, exactly what it was.
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  Yeah, it was the other Corvette and the Corvettes old motor.
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  Yes.
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  The C seven are the sound of the earth ripping itself apart.
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  Trying to stay together when it's Corvette pounds down the road.
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  It was just.
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  Gone.
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  We used to say that the Lexus sounded as good and the Mercedes sounded as good.
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  Correction.
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  The Mercedes sounds bad.
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  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  You see, that's where you're wrong, but I digress.
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  So the C7R was missing.
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  I think some of the LMP, whatever the top class LMDH, the GTP cars, some of
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  the, the LMDH cars sounded really, really good, but they still didn't have that.
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  Pounding on your chest, really throaty, nice growl.
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  So I missed the C7R sound, which is a big part of going to these races.
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  That as you mentioned, the auditory feelings and everything you get.
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  The faster cars.
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  Yes.
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  The speed differential is insane.
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  The flashing of the lights when you're coming up on traffic, so annoying.
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  If I was a GT car driver, I would purposefully sit in the middle of the
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  road and make you fucking go around me at the worst part of the corner.
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  You can sit there and flash me.
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  The restarts.
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  For no reason in the last two hours of the race, three hours of the race.
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  That's new too, right?
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  The way they're doing restarts now where they've adopted the whole NASCAR idea.
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  SRO does this too, where they're re gridding.
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  Dude, we lost how many laps watching them re grid up and then go to green again.
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  And then it was like, Oh, we have not any action for a while.
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  Let's throw a yellow.
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  Well, not even that.
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  It was also because the Porsche, uh, LMDH car was trying to catch up.
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  So, I'm sensing a bit of Porsche and IMSA collusion.
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  Forever unclean.
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  One of my favorite parts of the race was after every yellow, and after
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  every restart, the safety car, Coming around out of the bus stop would floor
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  it and you can see it just kind of take off and it was like, God damn,
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  that McCann has some legs on it.
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  Holy shit.
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  So I was pretty impressed with both the CT, the black wing and the, uh,
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  the McCann or whatever the McCann turbo or whatever it was, they were
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  ripping coming out of the final turn.
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  That was always fun to watch.
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  The checkers outside the track was greater than the concessions inside.
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  It was good value for money, actually.
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  That was good.
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  Eats great value for money.
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  Yeah, the weather was phenomenal.
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  I think this is the first year that the weather was clear,
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  the entire race, and warm too.
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  It was actually very, very pleasant.
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  I don't think you got any lower than 55, 50, 55 even at night.
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  It was really nice.
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  Would you do it again and if the answer's no.
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  Would you consider a different IMSA race?
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  Both.
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  I would do it again, and I would go to a different one.
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  Maybe VIR, the Glenn, mid Ohio?
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  I'm hoping to go to VIR myself, with my car.
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  I need a new shirt!
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  As you mentioned, there were way more people than 2018, so that did kind of,
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  you know, Take away from me from the experience because we didn't get to do
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  as much as we had in 2018 because there was just too many people to wait through.
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  I did say that it's better to watch on TV with a bunch of friends, but I
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  do want to go again and actually stay in the infield and camp just once.
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  Yeah, I think that would be like that could add to have a home base.
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  actually in the infield to go to and from, I think would make the
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  experience a little bit better on site.
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  Do you see the appeal of endurance sports car racing now that you've
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  seen it in person versus on TV?
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  I don't know that I needed to see it in person, right?
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  It's not that I was unaware of this discipline of racing
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  or have never seen it before.
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  Road racing tends to be far more interesting sometimes because the
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  top prototype cars aside, it's The lower class, it's like, it's an
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  911, it's a Mercedes, it's a Lexus.
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  I can relate to these cars.
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  Like, even a Huracan, technically you could relate to it, but that's a little
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  bit out of my price bracket, right?
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  That's what makes road racing a little more interesting, because
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  it's like, ooh, look at that Audi A4.
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  Yeah, I have an Audi.
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  I don't, but I have an Audi A4.
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  I have this BMW, right?
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  Versus like, Formula 1, it's like, I don't have a fucking Formula car.
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  You know, and it's like NASCAR is like, okay, yeah, and I
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  don't have a NASCAR and okay.
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  Cause it says Camry on the front ain't no Camry.
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  That's like that Supra that they have in NASCAR.
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  Now I don't, that has no relation to the real thing.
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  That's all I'm saying.
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  But yes, I hope that as more people, you know, maybe shift their
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  attention or maybe getting bored of other disciplines that they.
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  Turn their eyes to endurance sports car racing, because to
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  your point, it is really relatable and it's really exciting too.
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  I look forward to the rest of the season.
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  I mean, obviously I'm looking forward to Lamont's I'll be recording from France
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  and things like that while I'm there.
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  So I'm super excited to be at the crown jewel of sports car
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  endurance racing this year.
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  So looking forward to more on that, but we do have to move on.
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  We have to talk about some other things that happened in the last month.
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  I know we've covered this in a another special episode that people can
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  tune into on our Patreon, but some quick thoughts on the DC auto show.
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  Well, that about wraps that up.
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  And if you want to know the full report, you can check it
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  out for free on our Patreon.
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  I just want to say, I went to the Richmond international auto show this weekend.
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  Oh man.
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  Because we're kind of in the market for a larger vehicle to replace her pilot.
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  If the DC auto show womp, the Richmond auto show was The DC auto
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  show to retract my statement was actually the Toyota auto show.
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  Yeah, 100 percent.
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  Oh, nice.
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  If you were looking for a Toyota, you needed to be At that show, they had every
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  model possible and then some on display.
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  And if you were tired of Toyota, you could go look at all the Hyundais.
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  Toyota had probably 20 percent of the entire area, which unlike the
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  DC convention center, the Richmond convention center is one floor.
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  Toyota had 50 percent of one whole convention room area.
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  Yeah, that's crazy.
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  So I did try and sit in a Supra.
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  And one thing that really grinds my gears about these auto shows
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  is they disconnect the batteries.
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  So all these vehicles with power seats, they have them set to someone,
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  Eric or Tanya size, the person that moved them into the arena.
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  So someone like me who wants to put the seat all the way back and, you
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  know, get in and fiddle with things.
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  Every car in the place is uncomfortable because I cannot adjust any of the seats.
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  I thought there was a solution to this.
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  It's like police Academy.
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  You just come up and rip the seat out and you sit in the backseat.
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  Isn't that how you do it in every car?
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  I totally think I broke the third row seat of this Toyota Sienna that
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  was allegedly sold to somebody.
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  So if you're listening to this, you know, I hope it's covered under warranty.
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  I'm sorry.
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  Speaking of Hyundai's, we got to see a new one that we actually wasn't even on
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  our radar and they call it the Ioniq 6.
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  And so we had some choice.
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  opinions about it.
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  Maybe some choice words if you want to really summarize it down.
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  It looks like a Saab.
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  It looks like a Saab 900 from the 80s, and you'll never convince me otherwise.
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  But what was shocking was the other day I spotted a commercial with
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  all people, Evan Bacon, talking about how he loves his Ioniq 6.
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  And it includes his daughter, but I don't know what her name is.
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  But the punchline of the commercial was, you know, Ev, like Kev.
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  What?
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  Yeah, I don't understand.
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  You know what this car looks like to me?
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  It looks like the Oldsmobile Aurora with that giant swooping cabin.
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  At first glance, Jon Capisci and I from Project Motoring, we came
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  down the stairs and we said, what is that 9 11 looking thing?
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  And then when you saw it in profile, you're like, That's a Saab 900 Turbo.
• 18:40
  But no, the reason I bring up commercials is because other things that happen
• 18:45
  in parts of the world where they don't care about things that go vroom, vroom,
• 18:48
  vroom, they go Omaha, 43, hut, hut, hut.
• 18:50
  We're talking about the Super Bowl and the commercials they're in.
• 18:54
  So let's get your guys recap on the 2023 automotive Super Bowl commercials.
• 18:59
  I have to be completely honest with you.
• 19:00
  I watched exactly 15 minutes of the Super Bowl before I was asleep.
• 19:05
  Was that the Rihanna part?
• 19:06
  So I missed the halftime show completely.
• 19:09
  So I watched one possession for each team and that was it, then I was done.
• 19:13
  That's all you needed.
• 19:14
  So I can't really speak to any of these commercials.
• 19:17
  So there was a bunch, I mean, obviously there's lists out there that have every
• 19:21
  commercial that was designed for the Super Bowl that aired before, during, and
• 19:25
  after, but they're specifically car ones.
• 19:27
  We've tried to highlight some of those.
• 19:29
  They come from Kia, Jeep, et cetera.
• 19:31
  So why don't we run through some of these really quickly, Tanya, and get
• 19:34
  your thoughts on the commercials.
• 19:35
  It felt like there were less car commercials in general than in
• 19:40
  past years, or maybe they were not quite as impactful in general.
• 19:46
  I don't know.
• 19:46
  They felt different.
• 19:47
  The main hitters that are usually there were missing.
• 19:50
  So maybe that's what kind of made the whole thing feel different.
• 19:52
  A little off in terms of the commercial experience when watching the Super Bowl.
• 19:56
  Last year was the one with Eugene Levy and the Nissan Z, yeah, and you always
• 20:01
  get the Audi ones, which you think is like the next transporter movies coming.
• 20:05
  Like there's these just kind of epic commercials out there.
• 20:07
  No.
• 20:08
  And this time we had Blinky Dad with Kia and Blinky being the
• 20:12
  little child's baby's pacifier.
• 20:15
  And this family that's gone somewhere in the mountains and then gets to the
• 20:19
  hotel and realizes that baby's missing Blinky and dad takes off in the Kia
• 20:23
  Telluride X Pro all terrain edition super all wheel drive SUV and he's
• 20:28
  tearing through the mountains and I forget if he's going across dirt snowed
• 20:32
  roads and hills and all this stuff.
• 20:34
  And at the bottom there's a disclaimer that says Professional
• 20:36
  driver on a closed course.
• 20:37
  Do not attempt at home.
• 20:38
  No, the disclaimer says don't drive your Telluride off road.
• 20:42
  It will break.
• 20:43
  Like, is this actually meant to be some Bronco, whatever, or Jeep
• 20:49
  Wrangler that can handle all this?
• 20:51
  I don't know.
• 20:52
  I mean, they had it shooting out of a cement, like the Italian
• 20:55
  job or pipe launching out of it.
• 20:57
  I'm like, yeah, launcher Keo.
• 20:58
  See what happens.
• 20:59
  It is a cool looking truck.
• 21:00
  Don't get me wrong, but yeah, I don't think it's marketed as like trail
• 21:04
  rated rugged off roader, you know, substitute for other brand here.
• 21:08
  But yeah, the binky dad thing, I don't know.
• 21:11
  Will Ferrell was back again for like the third year in a row, peddling.
• 21:15
  Some EV from General Motors.
• 21:17
  He was peddling all the EVs from General Motors.
• 21:19
  I like this commercial because it was the GMC whatever version, because that's how
• 21:25
  much I pay attention to GMC pickup trucks.
• 21:27
  I thought it was funny because it was GMC EVs and Netflix.
• 21:32
  And so he was driving through different Netflix TV shows.
• 21:36
  So there was The Walking Dead, there was Squid Game, there was Bridgerton,
• 21:39
  there was Stranger Things, there's like characters, actors, actresses from
• 21:44
  the actual like episodes that are like cameoing in here because in the beginning
• 21:47
  he gets bit by a Walking Dead zombie.
• 21:49
  In the end, he is a zombie driving the EV.
• 21:52
  Are they trying to tell you something?
• 21:53
  Cause I've said that about driving Hondas for a long time.
• 21:56
  Did you become numb?
• 21:57
  Yeah, exactly.
• 21:59
  They followed up with the Jeep electric boogie commercials.
• 22:03
  They've got variations of that for the 4XE platform.
• 22:06
  You see them now all the time.
• 22:07
  The Wrangler and the Grand Cherokee and, you know, snow up to their
• 22:10
  door handles doing 80 miles an hour.
• 22:12
  Yeah.
• 22:13
  This one wasn't bad.
• 22:14
  If this one was going through a safari, going through the forest, Going
• 22:18
  up the mountain, things like that.
• 22:20
  It was an upbeat commercial.
• 22:21
  It had the electric boogie woogie music playing.
• 22:24
  So you were happy.
• 22:25
  It had fun animals, smiling, that whole kind of thing.
• 22:27
  So it was a different tone than some of the other commercials.
• 22:30
  And it was just, you know, Hey, look how much fun you're going
• 22:33
  to have in our electric Jeep.
• 22:34
  You too can smile with giraffes.
• 22:36
  I will say the 4XE commercials, the new hybrid Jeep platforms do have my interest.
• 22:42
  I am curious to go test drive one to see what the torque is like.
• 22:46
  How it puts down the power, how it uses it.
• 22:48
  I mean, obviously we're accustomed to the Pacifica hybrid and how it functions.
• 22:52
  I am really curious how the Jeep works and that kind of stuff.
• 22:54
  So you got my attention.
• 22:56
  Stellantis.
• 22:57
  Speaking of Stellantis, the premature electrification commercial, it's
• 23:02
  like one of those pharmaceutical drug commercials for, yes.
• 23:05
  Yeah.
• 23:05
  But having these couples talk about how they bought electric trucks and
• 23:09
  they're always running out of juice and everything, it looks like it has the
• 23:12
  potential to be an excellent commercial.
• 23:14
  But does it have our disclaimer?
• 23:15
  If you suffer from Stellantis for more than four hours, please
• 23:18
  consult your nearest physician.
• 23:20
  Probably not.
• 23:22
  This commercial is all about the new Ram 1500 Rev, which they debuted at
• 23:27
  CES earlier this year and whatnot.
• 23:29
  So it's like how much better the Ram Rev is going to be in your life
• 23:32
  versus You know, everything else.
• 23:34
  It was a pretty good commercial.
• 23:35
  So definitely go back and watch it.
• 23:36
  If it's not named after a prehistoric lizard creature, nobody's going to buy it.
• 23:41
  And then there was 10.
• 23:44
  Okay.
• 23:44
  The only good thing about this movie was the scene of the alpha.
• 23:48
  And I was like, okay, it's another one.
• 23:50
  I don't think I saw nine.
• 23:52
  I don't know if I saw eight.
• 23:53
  I can't remember.
• 23:54
  And 10 going to be two parts, so it's really 10 and 11.
• 23:57
  Just like 5 and 6 were.
• 23:58
  And if you don't know what we're talking about yet, Fast and the Furious.
• 24:00
  Yes, I'm excited.
• 24:02
  Now that's what I call Fast and the Furious 137.
• 24:05
  Oh yeah, it is going to be like those now CDs.
• 24:07
  They're just going to go on forever.
• 24:09
  It's going to be Fast and the Furious 20, and it's going to be that scene from
• 24:12
  Days of Thunder where they're racing in the wheelchairs, except there'll be
• 24:16
  geriatric racing in the wheelchairs.
• 24:18
  Well no, now they're bringing in Jason Momoa to replace it.
• 24:21
  God knows who.
• 24:22
  So we'll just keep adding action heroes.
• 24:24
  It'll become like the expendables after a while.
• 24:27
  I think he's replacing the rock because the rock has not been back.
• 24:31
  The rock's too busy making turds like black Adam.
• 24:34
  So come on.
• 24:35
  That's because the rock and Vin Diesel can't work together.
• 24:38
  That's yeah.
• 24:38
  That's the real reason.
• 24:39
  The rock and Taye Diggs, they got into an argument.
• 24:42
  Then there's multiple people.
• 24:43
  Cause there was definitely a beef with the Vin Diesel.
• 24:45
  I think it all centers around Vin Diesel.
• 24:48
  All I'm going to say is.
• 24:50
  I haven't watched Slumberland, okay, which also stars Jason Momoa, which is based off
• 24:56
  of the cartoon or comic strip Little Nemo.
• 24:59
  Yes.
• 25:00
  The kid on the flying bed or whatever.
• 25:02
  There was an original Nintendo game based on it too.
• 25:04
  Blah, blah, blah.
• 25:05
  I don't know the full story.
• 25:07
  care.
• 25:07
  He's in that.
• 25:08
  And when the first scene of him sitting in the car, I swear to God, I was
• 25:12
  like, Oh my God, it's slumberland.
• 25:14
  Except he's like, gonna race a car.
• 25:16
  That other movie slumberland that you mentioned the little Nemo story,
• 25:20
  that's going to end up like the Aladdin Sinbad movie from the 90s.
• 25:26
  I had that thought.
• 25:27
  It's the Mandela effect.
• 25:28
  Like we all know it exists.
• 25:30
  It happened.
• 25:31
  It was a real thing.
• 25:32
  There's a trailer for it.
• 25:33
  And yet there is zero evidence.
• 25:35
  that it ever existed.
• 25:36
  If you ask Sinbad, he'll tell you.
• 25:38
  I don't know what you're talking about.
• 25:39
  It's lies.
• 25:40
  It's a conspiracy.
• 25:41
  The evidence is here.
• 25:42
  And now we've said it.
• 25:43
  There was a movie slumberland with Jason Momoa.
• 25:46
  You heard it here first, based off a little Nemo and the flying bed.
• 25:50
  There was a commercial that spoke to you.
• 25:52
  Did you get up out of your chair?
• 25:53
  Were you cheering at this kind of laughed and not because it's funny
• 25:57
  to see what was being depicted, but it's just like, funny because of all
• 26:02
  the troubles that they're facing.
• 26:04
  And who are we talking about, pray tell?
• 26:06
  Tesla.
• 26:07
  Oh, shucks.
• 26:08
  So the thing about this commercial actually is it did
• 26:10
  not air across all states.
• 26:12
  So this was Maryland and like I think two or three other states
• 26:17
  that this actually aired in.
• 26:18
  So the majority of people commercial.
• 26:21
  That's okay.
• 26:22
  We have a YouTube link for it.
• 26:24
  And it's this dawn project and it's basically the anti a false self
• 26:28
  driving some sort of advocacy group probably based out of California since
• 26:31
  California is actively trying to sue against the false naming of that.
• 26:36
  And they put together this whole video and they've got like little dummy
• 26:39
  toddlers and children that are like are walking across the street and just get
• 26:43
  run over by Teslas that aren't stopping.
• 26:46
  So.
• 26:46
  Now, I didn't make the video, so I am skeptical.
• 26:50
  I can be.
• 26:51
  Were they really in full self driving and didn't see them?
• 26:55
  Or is there a little bit of BS going on here to paint them in a bad light?
• 26:58
  I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
• 26:59
  There has definitely been other videos of Tesla's doing safety drives
• 27:04
  and whatnot where they have hit objects that have gone in front of
• 27:07
  them because they haven't seen them.
• 27:08
  So it's not out of the realm that this is possible.
• 27:11
  But then on the other side of the camp, you have all the Tesla people.
• 27:14
  There's been reports of people literally putting their own children in front
• 27:18
  of the car and letting it stop.
• 27:20
  And I'm like, you're a psychopath because you must not love your child.
• 27:23
  Cause I wouldn't trust anything right now to like not run my kid over.
• 27:27
  Like how dumb are you?
• 27:28
  But anyway, that's intense.
• 27:32
  I was not expecting this commercial.
• 27:34
  You rejoiced.
• 27:35
  I'm sure of it.
• 27:36
  I don't like that it's advertised as something that
• 27:38
  it's doing something it can't do.
• 27:40
  Oh, yeah.
• 27:40
  Like, just change the name.
• 27:42
  Oh, our fans know.
• 27:43
  I mean, there's a whole retrospective episode about this
• 27:47
  exact topic that you can review.
• 27:49
  But no, I am not part of the Dome Project.
• 27:52
  But send her some leaflets.
• 27:53
  She's definitely interested.
• 27:55
  All kidding aside, there are some other honorable mentions on this list.
• 27:58
  We got to tip our hat to weather tech.
• 28:00
  Obviously they sponsor IMSA and other racing series out there.
• 28:03
  So it was one of those, Oh, that's sweet moments where they talk about,
• 28:06
  you know, the factory and made in USA and all that kind of fun stuff.
• 28:09
  So great support weather tech.
• 28:10
  They make good stuff and they support racing.
• 28:12
  So.
• 28:12
  Awesome.
• 28:13
  The next one was the Uber one jingle.
• 28:15
  I very much enjoyed this.
• 28:17
  I thought it was cute, similar to the YouTube short.
• 28:20
  That's floating out around there about the windows theme song
• 28:23
  and how Microsoft got it right.
• 28:24
  If you've seen that it's like a Microsoft Azure type of commercial, but there
• 28:27
  was one other one that was pretty awesome and it goes back to one of our
• 28:32
  crossover episodes from season three and that's the T Mobile John Travolta.
• 28:39
  Musical commercial.
• 28:40
  Garbage.
• 28:41
  Hot garbage.
• 28:42
  I heard about this commercial like there was going to be some John Travolta thing
• 28:46
  and I don't know why I had it in my head from what I misheard that it was going
• 28:50
  to be Saturday Night Fever and I was totally confused when this commercial
• 28:54
  was going on because I'm like, what?
• 28:55
  This is not Saturday Night Fever.
• 28:58
  What's the two dudes from Scrubs, right?
• 29:00
  And then Travolta shows up.
• 29:01
  Yeah, Donald Faison and Zach Braff.
• 29:04
  Because those two are in a bunch of T Mobile commercials recently together.
• 29:08
  Yeah.
• 29:08
  As neighbors in this neighborhood that they're showing.
• 29:10
  And then suddenly, randomly, John Travolta's here.
• 29:12
  I don't know why.
• 29:13
  Isn't he moving in and then they bust out in Greece song.
• 29:16
  It made me smile because it made me think of Steven Izzy and the
• 29:19
  review of trade and paint that we did back earlier in this season.
• 29:23
  So I'm not sure where his spray on hair went though.
• 29:25
  He was bald.
• 29:26
  Well, he was bald and trade and paint.
• 29:28
  That was a weird hat.
• 29:29
  He didn't have hair, like a bad toupee.
• 29:31
  Did he?
• 29:32
  Yeah.
• 29:33
  I'm going to pull it up.
• 29:34
  We're going to pull it up as part of our season three retrospective.
• 29:37
  You're right.
• 29:37
  You're right.
• 29:37
  You're right.
• 29:38
  You're right.
• 29:38
  There was hair.
• 29:39
  It's right on the cover art.
• 29:41
  So as we wrap out our showcase, let's talk a little bit about
• 29:44
  season three highlights.
• 29:46
  This is the first time you're dialing in to the show.
• 29:48
  I want to let you guys know, this is the last episode of season three officially.
• 29:53
  And it's.
• 29:54
  Episode number 82 for season three.
• 29:57
  That's not counting all the bonus material that went out on Patreon
• 30:01
  that won't come out way later, maybe in season four at some point.
• 30:04
  So record setting number of episodes for us, you know, more than one a week.
• 30:08
  For sure.
• 30:09
  We doubled down and tripled down some of the weeks throughout the year.
• 30:12
  Just to get content to you guys as fast as we could.
• 30:14
  And there's some really great stuff left to come.
• 30:16
  And I'm sure you guys have some great memories from season three as well.
• 30:19
  I want to start off with one that Tanya and I did together, which was
• 30:23
  the Zymal episode with Chuck Bennett.
• 30:25
  Talk about an incredible storyteller and what an epic journey his career has taken.
• 30:31
  Yes.
• 30:31
  That was definitely a very fun episode to listen to.
• 30:34
  The man has a wealth.
• 30:38
  Of knowledge and experiences, and it's interesting to have heard a story of
• 30:42
  like where he started in his career and his life and how he switched to
• 30:46
  Zymal and everything he knows about it.
• 30:48
  And you got to flex your technical skills too, especially the episode
• 30:51
  we did with Rick Lee from Evolve and other things like that.
• 30:55
  So you get invested in different ways in the show too.
• 30:57
  So it's always a lot of fun.
• 30:59
  I like the bonus content when he started talking about Ralph Lorenz, Bugatti
• 31:03
  and Einstein's car and all this kind of these other projects that he worked on.
• 31:07
  Those are really, really cool too.
• 31:09
  I mean, just fascinating guy.
• 31:10
  Again, to your point, wealth of information and
• 31:13
  again, a great storyteller.
• 31:14
  I was really fortunate.
• 31:15
  I did a one on one with Barbie the welder.
• 31:18
  Her life's journey is another one that is just like.
• 31:21
  You just sit in awe and you're like, wow, how she pulled herself up from
• 31:26
  her bootstraps and how she's become this noted artist in the community.
• 31:30
  And she is related to the motorsport and vehicle community.
• 31:34
  She's done work for SEMA.
• 31:35
  She's done things for Harley Davidson and things like that.
• 31:37
  So if you've missed that episode, what a great and inspiring story that
• 31:41
  she told about her life's journey.
• 31:43
  We were really fortunate this year, just by chance, we met Don Wieberg
• 31:48
  from GarageDom Magazine, and he introduced us to the world of auctions,
• 31:52
  classic cars, private collections, this whole idea that he's got that
• 31:56
  he calls the Garage Lifestyle.
• 31:58
  In general, I have to say Don's been a great addition to our team, and
• 32:01
  he brings some immediate comedy to every episode that he's on, especially
• 32:06
  the What Should I Buy episodes.
• 32:07
  Those are always fun.
• 32:08
  And that is a group of folks that have been in some of the more
• 32:11
  recent at a lot of color too.
• 32:13
  So what should I buy?
• 32:17
  I mean, the collector car one, I was telling everybody,
• 32:19
  it's pretty crazy episode.
• 32:20
  You're going to have a lot of fun.
• 32:21
  You know, Don's doing impersonations and Chris and Mark are going
• 32:25
  at it and there's, you know, it was great experience.
• 32:27
  And I know, I know Brad enjoys getting together for each one that
• 32:29
  we come up with, but the Italian episode, I'm telling you guys right
• 32:33
  now, if you haven't listened to it, All I gotta say is crack pipe and it
• 32:37
  literally starts from that point and it goes downhill very, very quickly.
• 32:43
  Absolutely insane episode.
• 32:45
  I mean, on the other side of that, we had some real superstars.
• 32:48
  We have some big names that anyone, you know, remotely tied into motor
• 32:54
  sports probably would recognize.
• 32:55
  Andy Pilgrim, Lynn St.
• 32:57
  James, Randy Lanier, Dennis Gage, John Davis from Motor Week, Kat DeLorean.
• 33:04
  Bill Warner from the Amelia Island.
• 33:06
  They all shared their own personal stories.
• 33:09
  And it's very interesting.
• 33:11
  And very inspirational.
• 33:12
  A lot of people wonder, they know these people by name.
• 33:14
  Well, I know so and so.
• 33:16
  Yeah, you've seen him on TV or, you know, John Davis.
• 33:18
  We've known him for 42 years.
• 33:19
  He's been on the air for that long.
• 33:21
  Dennis Gage for almost 30.
• 33:22
  But do you really know them?
• 33:24
  And when you get to hear their stories and how they became who they are and the steps
• 33:28
  and missteps that they made along the way, I mean, it's really, really quite amazing.
• 33:32
  So hopefully that shed some light for other people.
• 33:35
  And there's some other stories out there that they're just like that
• 33:37
  even more tragic in some ways.
• 33:40
  If you look at the.
• 33:41
  Epic coming of age stories of pro driver, like Andy Lee, and then of SRO driver,
• 33:46
  Joey Jordan, the fourth, who's related to Jim Jordan, who was also on the show.
• 33:50
  They take us through their life and Joey, especially he goes on this
• 33:53
  29, 000 mile journey from LA to the tip of South America, you know,
• 33:59
  looking at Antarctica in a van.
• 34:01
  The he bought sight unseen from Japan, just incredible wild buck wild.
• 34:06
  I mean, that's top gear level stuff right there.
• 34:09
  The journey through South America was just buck wild.
• 34:13
  And he did it mostly by himself, which was risky, but just amazing too.
• 34:17
  When you listen to everything that he went through on that trip.
• 34:20
  So Brad and I were super fortunate this year.
• 34:23
  We got to do something pretty cool, right?
• 34:25
  Yeah, I mean, we were on a crossover episode with Mark Green from Cars, yeah.
• 34:29
  We double crossed with Mark.
• 34:31
  He came on our show.
• 34:33
  We went on his show.
• 34:34
  I have to say the crossovers are probably some of my favorite.
• 34:36
  Episodes that we do.
• 34:37
  We had on another podcast, Kate and Nicole from two girls, one formula.
• 34:42
  They're bringing formula one to the masses.
• 34:45
  Very popular.
• 34:46
  Uh, I think more crossovers should be in our future.
• 34:49
  I think there's some of my favorite those in the what should I buys for sure.
• 34:52
  Our listeners might not know, but we also do a quarterly with Steven Izzy
• 34:57
  from everything I learned for movies where not only do they review bad
• 35:00
  movies, they're willing to review.
• 35:02
  bad car movies with us.
• 35:04
  I was going to say Trading Paint, our EILFM crossover with Steve and Izzy.
• 35:09
  Crossover episodes with them are always quite enjoyable.
• 35:11
  They're a fun bunch.
• 35:12
  If you haven't checked out their podcast episode, it's
• 35:14
  everything I learned from movies.
• 35:16
  So it's always a good time with them.
• 35:17
  The movie itself was kind of a bitch.
• 35:19
  Spoiler alert.
• 35:21
  Consensus of that review.
• 35:22
  But check it out.
• 35:23
  It's on Netflix.
• 35:24
  We look forward to getting together with them.
• 35:26
  Be on the lookout for more between us and everything I learned from movies.
• 35:29
  But we have to congratulate ourselves.
• 35:31
  We broke the record.
• 35:32
  The record was held by Chuck at Zymal for the longest episode it
• 35:37
  took to get recorded, but that was defeated by the guys over at
• 35:41
  the Pontiac Aztec owners club.
• 35:43
  Yes, folks, we did it.
• 35:45
  We said we were going to do it.
• 35:46
  We finally got Aztec owners on the show to talk about why they love the car.
• 35:51
  What's so great about it.
• 35:52
  And Mountain Man Dan and I actually had a lot of fun recording with Paul and John
• 35:57
  and that episode turned out fantastically.
• 35:59
  So if you haven't tuned in for that, I highly recommend it.
• 36:01
  That was a good episode.
• 36:02
  I did learn a lot.
• 36:03
  More than you probably ever wanted to know.
• 36:06
  More than I thought I needed to know.
• 36:09
  But I gotta say my favorite episode is the next episode because our episodes
• 36:14
  just keep getting better and better.
• 36:15
  We're getting great guests, great stories.
• 36:18
  Yeah, I think the next episode is always going to be our best episode.
• 36:21
  You know, that's a good way to put it.
• 36:22
  I like that.
• 36:23
  That's very, uh, forward thinking, you know, it's the thing that
• 36:26
  gets us to the next thing.
• 36:28
  Absolutely.
• 36:29
  On that note, one of the other things, as I look back over season three, which
• 36:33
  actually takes us into season four without giving too much away is our long standing
• 36:38
  partnership with the international motor racing research center.
• 36:41
  And now In partnership with the society of automotive historians, we're bringing
• 36:45
  you a new mini series every month.
• 36:48
  We're going to put out episodes surrounding the history of motor sports.
• 36:52
  These are coming from different sources, academics, X racers,
• 36:56
  you know, things like that.
• 36:57
  And it's very fascinating material.
• 36:59
  A lot of it.
• 36:59
  Older things that you were like, I always wondered about that.
• 37:02
  And so we're really, really fortunate to be partnering with both the
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  IMRRC and the SAH to bring you that kind of content and kind of mix
• 37:09
  things up from our standard fair.
• 37:11
  So look forward to more of that.
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  And a lot of other surprises as we go into season four.
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  or anything from prior seasons in our catalog, you can join us very easily on
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  We're pretty easy to find.
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  So, if you Also have ideas for stories that you're interested in us
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  exploring, please don't be bashful.
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  but it's always good to hear from our fans, you know, what they're interested
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• 38:03
  He's talking to you, Mark Hewitt.
• 38:07
  That said, it's time we move on to Volkswagen, Audi, and Porsche news.
• 38:12
  So what's on the docket this month, or should I say, who's
• 38:16
  no longer working there?
• 38:17
  Apparently their design chief got the boot.
• 38:21
  Oh, you're out of here.
• 38:23
  He designed one of your new favorite cars, as you told us about from CES.
• 38:26
  I don't know what they're thinking.
• 38:28
  Well, obviously they're thinking that the ID buzz isn't all that great.
• 38:32
  The buzz right now, but Tanya wants one.
• 38:35
  Everybody I've talked to that's seen it says the same thing.
• 38:38
  That's super cool.
• 38:39
  I want to buy one.
• 38:39
  It was really cool to see in person.
• 38:42
  I hope to see them on the road.
• 38:43
  Feel like Volkswagen does this every time they tease us with something.
• 38:47
  And then everybody goes, that's really cool.
• 38:49
  I will line up like it's the Apple store in 2005 for the next iPhone to buy this
• 38:55
  thing, and then they never produce.
• 38:57
  The thing that we want.
• 38:58
  Then we get the next Passat that looks like it was made from
• 39:01
  cardboard and ex rental cars.
• 39:03
  Exactly, because the headline of this article from Haggerty is Volkswagen
• 39:08
  design chief ousted over retro designs replaced by Bentley design lead.
• 39:13
  So he was fired because he's trying to do retro redesigns?
• 39:17
  Hello?
• 39:18
  That's what sells.
• 39:19
  That is the thing right now.
• 39:21
  That's what a lot of us now who maybe are in a better financial position to buy
• 39:25
  another car or something kind of want, because you're going back to stuff that
• 39:29
  we wanted to obtain in the first place, in the first place when we were first
• 39:34
  starting to drive, but it was like, Oh, you can't because they're on obtainium
• 39:37
  or they're going to be, you know, piles and rust buckets and pieces of crap
• 39:40
  that you guys think a lot of money into.
• 39:42
  And it's like, now I could have like this kind of modern day,
• 39:44
  all the bells and whistles retro.
• 39:46
  feel to it, but we're going to get rid of that.
• 39:48
  Cause again, I'm saying, how dumb are you?
• 39:52
  The beetle again, which is like every time it's just a retro of itself, I guess.
• 39:57
  I don't know, but like an electric beetle.
• 40:00
  Oh my God.
• 40:01
  How easy is this?
• 40:04
  We're going to replace that with the guy that brought you the Bentayga.
• 40:08
  A stupid car with a stupid name.
• 40:10
  And a stupid design.
• 40:12
  Right?
• 40:12
  How could you ruin a Q7?
• 40:15
  I mean, it's like Looks terrible.
• 40:16
  I feel like there's a space for the retro stuff.
• 40:19
  It doesn't all need to be vanilla that they all just look like passats.
• 40:25
  Even Toyota is taking a step away from that.
• 40:28
  The new Prius is actually starting to look like a normal car.
• 40:31
  Then they have the crown and some other EVs and things like that.
• 40:34
  It's like if Toyota is making them look more normal.
• 40:36
  Well, I know that's a stretch to say, look more normal.
• 40:40
  I'm not sure some of those design lines are all that new.
• 40:43
  Great, but they are definitely differentiating, like that crown
• 40:47
  did not look like a Corolla.
• 40:49
  Definitely not.
• 40:50
  You know, even them, they've kind of gotten into like the Camry and Corolla.
• 40:52
  It's like until it passes you on the road, you're not sure which one it
• 40:55
  is sometimes from like the front end.
• 40:57
  We had that period in Volkswagen too, where the Passat and the Jetta and the
• 41:00
  Golf, they all just looked the same.
• 41:02
  I believe it was the Mark V period.
• 41:05
  And the Mark IV period.
• 41:06
  No, the Jetta was square in the front.
• 41:08
  Yeah.
• 41:09
  The Jetta looked nothing like the Golf.
• 41:10
  Although you could interchange all the parts.
• 41:12
  They look nothing like each other.
• 41:13
  It is a sad day in Volkswagen history because this month
• 41:17
  signifies the end of an era.
• 41:20
  As Volkswagen moves deeper into electrification, that
• 41:23
  means there is no more room for motors like the venerable VR6.
• 41:29
  My heart is broken, let me tell you.
• 41:31
  Did you know that the VR6 has now officially been around for 30 years?
• 41:34
  Started in the early days as a lowly 12 liter and now exits with
• 41:40
  over 300 horsepower out of 3.
• 41:42
  6 liters naturally aspirated.
• 41:43
  A hell of an engine, a hell of a sounding engine.
• 41:46
  It's been in just about everything.
• 41:48
  When you look at the article that we're talking about here, that was put
• 41:51
  together by the drive, it's astounding.
• 41:54
  The number of cars that they put the VR six in some of them
• 41:57
  carrying badges, like Horsha.
• 42:00
  So you think, Oh, I got this mighty six cylinder in here.
• 42:02
  And it's actually a VR six in your Cayenne or whatever it is.
• 42:06
  The VR six great engine, sad to see it go.
• 42:08
  I understand why they're sunsetting it, but maybe in the future, who knows?
• 42:13
  Maybe the VR six will come back.
• 42:14
  It is a engineering Marvel in the fact that you can put an engine
• 42:18
  that big in such a tight space.
• 42:21
  I'm just glad to have been able to nab one.
• 42:23
  Oh, the price of all VR six is just went through the roof.
• 42:27
  Now they're 2 Bob.
• 42:28
  52 I got 50 well, we talked about this before and I feel like we're in the
• 42:38
  middle of this weird grateful dead Rolling Stones unending farewell tour.
• 42:44
  Here we go.
• 42:45
  Lamborghini.
• 42:46
  Once again, we have another car.
• 42:49
  It is going to be the ultimate final car with a V12.
• 42:53
  It was supposed to be some other Aventador, this,
• 42:55
  that, and the other thing.
• 42:56
  I can't even keep them all straight anymore.
• 42:58
  And now we have Invincible and Autentica.
• 43:02
  Yes.
• 43:03
  And I'm like, no one cares.
• 43:06
  And I don't like the way it looks.
• 43:08
  How is this different than a Huracan?
• 43:10
  I feel like we're back to the 80s where they only make one car for
• 43:14
  20 years at a time and then, you know, the next one will come out.
• 43:17
  How many years has it been since Jeremy Clarkson did that vignette?
• 43:21
  One, the Aston Martin that he drove, where he said, this is the end of
• 43:24
  an era, the end of the big V12.
• 43:27
  Yeah.
• 43:27
  I mean, like I said, this feels like a farewell tour.
• 43:30
  That's never going to end.
• 43:31
  Everybody keeps talking about the last of the V12s and all this kind
• 43:34
  of stuff, especially the Lamborghini.
• 43:35
  Here we are all over again.
• 43:38
  And it's never going to end because people keep buying them.
• 43:40
  Yeah, exactly.
• 43:41
  They keep trying to find ways to sell them.
• 43:43
  And offset their carbon credits and no better way to stir up buzz and get people
• 43:48
  interested than to say, this is it.
• 43:50
  This is the end.
• 43:51
  This is the last one we're going to make until the next one we make.
• 43:53
  Then that's going to be the last one we're ever going to make.
• 43:56
  Yeah.
• 43:56
  It's, it's a terrible sales paradigm there.
• 43:59
  I don't care about this car.
• 44:01
  All I care about from Lamborghini right now, and usually I don't
• 44:04
  resonate with his designs is the Magnus Walker redesigned Kuntosh.
• 44:10
  It looks so good.
• 44:11
  He put out another rendering the other day with a Marlboro livery on it from
• 44:15
  like the old school formula one days, not the Marlboro F1, which was, you
• 44:20
  know, Senna has anything to do with Lamborghini, but he looked good.
• 44:26
  So I mean, whatever Lambo you do you.
• 44:29
  That being said, it's time for some news from lower Saxony.
• 44:32
  Why?
• 44:33
  Why not?
• 44:34
  I don't care about either of these brands.
• 44:36
  Let's move on.
• 44:37
  Wow.
• 44:38
  Well, which is really sad because I used to love Mercedes.
• 44:41
  Some of our listeners might still care.
• 44:44
  I mean, I care a little bit.
• 44:45
  Does it have two doors?
• 44:47
  And a swooping rear end.
• 44:48
  I mean, then you have my attention, Mercedes.
• 44:50
  Or is it a wagon?
• 44:52
  What?
• 44:52
  Yes.
• 44:52
  Mercedes is good as those two things.
• 44:54
  The SLS GT model series there, the coupe and the wagons a hundred percent.
• 44:59
  Yeah.
• 45:00
  Well, anyway, the latest Mercedes news, aside from whatever their latest
• 45:04
  model is going to be EQ, this, that, and the other, I think they're even
• 45:07
  actually changing their platform names and dropping that whole.
• 45:10
  eqs thing.
• 45:12
  I'm not sure what they're going with because it's dumb.
• 45:15
  I mean, it was weird, but it's fine.
• 45:19
  Their cars are getting more techie.
• 45:21
  Essentially, of course they have to, to compete against the Teslas of the world.
• 45:25
  And also probably to work out all their subscription models that
• 45:28
  we've talked about in the past.
• 45:30
  That's not what this is about.
• 45:32
  You know, this is about higher computing power in the electronics.
• 45:36
  I think they've already been partnered with NVIDIA for a while, but the latest
• 45:40
  partnership that was announced, which isn't all that new for this entity
• 45:45
  because they've already partnered, I think, with the likes of Ford and others.
• 45:49
  Google is coming to a Mercedes near you.
• 45:53
  No.
• 45:54
  Wop, wop, wop.
• 45:55
  Specifically, it's their navigation that they want to embed
• 45:58
  in, in the navigation system.
• 46:00
  So Google Maps for you.
• 46:02
  Because Audi and BMW have the lock with Garmin.
• 46:05
  So we got to go with somebody else, right?
• 46:07
  I mean, that's how that works.
• 46:08
  I mean, I trust my Google overlord, so fine.
• 46:12
  No, thank you.
• 46:13
  It never driven me into a lake.
• 46:15
  So, although I did hear a report of apparently some dude's driveway got
• 46:21
  labeled as a road and people are legit turning on it like navigation systems.
• 46:27
  Must've been in Florida.
• 46:30
  That's awesome.
• 46:30
  And then there's some news from BMW.
• 46:32
  Which might be some good news.
• 46:35
  They're already talking about their 2024 models, specifically the new X5M and X6M.
• 46:41
  And they're kind of expanding their hybrid models a little bit, because
• 46:46
  right now they only have like four.
• 46:47
  So they're going to add the hybrids to these as well.
• 46:50
  So that's kind of exciting.
• 46:50
  That's good.
• 46:51
  Hybrid compromise between gasoline and being full electric.
• 46:54
  But I think the more interesting thing is the facelift or rather
• 46:57
  nose job that these two have gotten.
• 47:01
  Because the grills are not as monstrous, so they've toned them down a little bit.
• 47:06
  They're still pretty heinous.
• 47:07
  I think the other ductwork that's going on in the lower part of the
• 47:12
  bumper now is distracting, maybe?
• 47:14
  Have you seen the guy that mounted, like, the X7?
• 47:19
  Grills to an E36.
• 47:21
  He redid the whole front end.
• 47:23
  It looks ridiculous.
• 47:24
  Let me guess.
• 47:24
  It's taller than the height.
• 47:26
  No, it's literally the whole height of the front end to the bottom of the balance.
• 47:30
  It looks insane.
• 47:33
  I got to give him props for one thing.
• 47:35
  Massive cooling.
• 47:36
  There is no excuse for getting air into that radiator at that point.
• 47:40
  Well, you know what guys here we are closing out season three.
• 47:43
  We have to just bask in the awesomeness.
• 47:46
  of this next segment, complete silence from Stellantis.
• 47:53
  Let's take a moment.
• 47:55
  I mean, that's not true.
• 47:56
  Not necessarily.
• 47:57
  We had the electric boogie woogie.
• 47:59
  That doesn't count.
• 48:01
  We had the premature electrification.
• 48:03
  Doesn't count.
• 48:04
  No, it does count.
• 48:06
  You know what the recent news is though?
• 48:08
  Their stock price has gone up and they've had record profits most recently.
• 48:13
  So that is actually the latest.
• 48:15
  So they're doing quite well.
• 48:16
  Well, we can shift to what's left of our domestic news,
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• 48:26
  Ford, or Chevrolet product.
• 48:28
  Did you guys know that a Camaro is less expensive to lease right now
• 48:34
  than one of Tanya's least favorite cars on the face of the earth?
• 48:38
  The Malibu.
• 48:39
  Would you do it?
• 48:40
  If my choice is anything with a Camaro or Malibu, Camaro.
• 48:46
  Are you sure?
• 48:47
  I mean, if my choice is anything other than Impala versus Malibu,
• 48:51
  it's going to be anything.
• 48:56
  Brad, would you lease a Camaro?
• 48:57
  I'm not really into leasing period, but.
• 49:01
  To Tonya's point, anything is greater than a Malibu.
• 49:04
  I would lease a Camaro versus renting a Malibu.
• 49:08
  But when I read between the lines, what this says to me is
• 49:13
  the Camaro is not doing well.
• 49:15
  Don't they get rid of it?
• 49:16
  Yeah.
• 49:16
  Isn't this the last year?
• 49:17
  Ding, ding, ding to try to get them out the door.
• 49:20
  Now we have to lease them because we can't unload them quick enough.
• 49:24
  And also like we saw the DC auto show, they were really touting the
• 49:27
  Camaro convertible, which seemed.
• 49:29
  Not necessarily a first for that body style, but it just seemed like we hadn't
• 49:33
  seen the Camaro convertible in a while.
• 49:35
  And the same is true of the challenger, right?
• 49:36
  Dodge is putting out a convertible now in the last set of the production run, which
• 49:41
  sort of boggles my mind because it costs extra to get that through safety and the
• 49:47
  tooling for the convertible and all the extra stuff they had to come up with.
• 49:49
  And I'm like, this is craziness.
• 49:51
  So what I lease Camaro, why wouldn't lease anything?
• 49:56
  I'm with you, Brad.
• 49:56
  I mean that reasons and seasons for doing that.
• 49:59
  Right?
• 49:59
  But if that was my only choice, maybe just maybe is walking an option?
• 50:07
  walking is always an option.
• 50:08
  I mean, it seems to be the option at Ford.
• 50:11
  'cause they just reported $2 billion.
• 50:13
  That's billion with a B.
• 50:16
  Like the show with Paul Giamatti.
• 50:18
  Billion dollar loss.
• 50:21
  Because chips.
• 50:22
  That's not a good thing.
• 50:23
  I did pass a lightning on the road today, but they do exist in the wild.
• 50:28
  Although I was wondering if something was wrong with it.
• 50:30
  Cause I swear it had like his hind legs were up.
• 50:33
  I was like, what is this thing doing?
• 50:36
  It was raked.
• 50:38
  My wife passed a Rivian today and she texted me and she goes, what is a Rivian?
• 50:42
  And then that led to an explanation, which ended with her going, huh.
• 50:46
  That should have led to a question.
• 50:48
  Why do you not listen to the show?
• 50:51
  Season three is full of Rivian.
• 50:52
  Full of Rivian.
• 50:53
  It's the Rivian season.
• 50:54
  Because Chips, like we've been talking about for over a year now,
• 50:58
  there's still supply chain issues.
• 51:00
  There's still this and that.
• 51:01
  But the Mach E, as cool as it can be, despite the name, it is a pretty cool car.
• 51:08
  Prices!
• 51:09
  Are the problem 50, 000 for an entry level vehicle is a hard
• 51:14
  pill to swallow for most people.
• 51:16
  So I can understand why sales are down.
• 51:19
  And then if you're not in the economy car market, you're interested in
• 51:22
  buying the latest F one 50, you know, not even talking about the lightning.
• 51:26
  I mean, these trucks are out of control.
• 51:28
  Who's got 70, to spend on these trucks.
• 51:32
  You can't think of it like that though.
• 51:33
  You got to think of it more like who's got 1, 200 to spend on it a month or
• 51:38
  1, 500 a month, because you can get the financing for any of that stuff.
• 51:42
  Well, that's true.
• 51:43
  I mean, we got a letter in the mail, even today where Chrysler was
• 51:46
  like, if you trade in your car for a brand new one, your new payment
• 51:50
  is only 121 more than the last one.
• 51:53
  And I'm like, are you out of your freaking mind?
• 51:55
  It's already bad enough as it is.
• 51:58
  I do like the way that the article starts out by saying that
• 52:01
  General Motors and Tesla both recorded record profits in 2022.
• 52:06
  Well, Tesla's been reporting record profits for years now, and I still
• 52:11
  don't understand how that math works, except for the carbon credit part that
• 52:14
  we've already covered several times.
• 52:15
  Right, right, right.
• 52:16
  Chevy's on the up.
• 52:17
  Maybe it's the truck divisions that are really where the numbers are coming
• 52:21
  to play, because other than the Camaro and the Malibu, As we saw at the auto
• 52:25
  show, they don't have anything, right?
• 52:28
  So they're not selling cars, the Corvette.
• 52:30
  I mean, the Corvettes are 30 to 40, 000 more than they used to be.
• 52:35
  So let's talk about that for a second.
• 52:37
  I want to go back to our special DC auto show episode where we talked
• 52:41
  about this and we speculated about even last month, the Corvette
• 52:45
  SUV in the four So here we go.
• 52:47
  Cadillac Blackwing becomes the Corvette sedan.
• 52:50
  And the blazer SS becomes a Corvette SUV.
• 52:54
  Although you guys saw the latest spy pictures that lifted Corvette SUV thing.
• 53:01
  And I was, it was a rendering.
• 53:02
  It wasn't, yeah, whatever.
• 53:04
  It wasn't a real car, but still I was just like, it's still a blazer with
• 53:09
  the Corvette nose and tail on it.
• 53:11
  What'd he do?
• 53:12
  It looks like a bowler Bobcat or whatever.
• 53:14
  The exact, exactly, exactly.
• 53:16
  Beat across.
• 53:18
  In reality, what General Motors is going to do is rebadge those other two
• 53:22
  cars, the blazer SS and the black wing.
• 53:25
  And those will have Corvette badges and a Jake on the side and the whole nine yards.
• 53:28
  And that's the end of that.
• 53:29
  Fine, whatever.
• 53:30
  But overall, I think the car market is just down.
• 53:34
  We're in a weird transition period.
• 53:36
  New cars are what they are.
• 53:38
  Like Tanya said, the design language right now, when we look back 20 years from now,
• 53:42
  I don't know what we're going to think.
• 53:44
  Well, the cost of everything's up.
• 53:45
  You shouldn't be out buying a car for the sake of buying a car unless
• 53:48
  you absolutely have to because your current car does no longer
• 53:52
  function or it's irreparable, right?
• 53:54
  Like, to just willy nilly be like, I feel like a new car today.
• 53:58
  Sunny.
• 53:58
  Hey man, that was the 2000s when the stock market was strong.
• 54:02
  Those days are gone.
• 54:03
  That is not the days right now.
• 54:05
  So these EVs cost significantly more than a Kia, Toyota Corolla.
• 54:11
  And like, what are you getting for that?
• 54:13
  Fool to say you have an electric vehicle.
• 54:16
  If you're going out to buy a car just for For no reason, but I'm going to
• 54:21
  just replace my car that still runs that I paid for blah, blah, blah.
• 54:23
  I don't know that you're ever going to break back even spending 80, 000.
• 54:28
  I don't care what the cost of the electric ferries is to fill
• 54:31
  the pixie dust in your car.
• 54:33
  That's a huge chunk of money to break back even on.
• 54:37
  The price of gasoline has to go astronomical.
• 54:41
  Well, the price of electricity has also like basically doubled
• 54:45
  because of everybody, you know, consuming more electricity and
• 54:49
  it costs more to generate more.
• 54:50
  So it's a lose lose situation the way I look at it, you know, without
• 54:54
  getting into all the details, it's like, is it cheaper to produce fuel
• 54:58
  than it is to produce electricity?
• 55:00
  But then obviously there's the, you know, the environmental impact of all that.
• 55:03
  I mean, it's just, it's craziness.
• 55:05
  I still hold true.
• 55:07
  And I've said it throughout the course of this season, hybrid is the way to go.
• 55:11
  Hopefully we'll see more of that as we go along, you know, maybe the
• 55:14
  tides will turn synthetic fuels.
• 55:16
  You know, we talked about it earlier this season with Porsche,
• 55:19
  you know, things like that.
• 55:19
  So, you know, the sky is still the limit from a technology perspective, but what
• 55:23
  we're still missing is standardization.
• 55:26
  We don't have that model T of EVs and maybe.
• 55:30
  Maybe Ford will come up with that car.
• 55:32
  You know, they can regain that title, but who knows?
• 55:35
  They better want to stay in business.
• 55:38
  They better you need a mixed bag.
• 55:39
  They say, if you're doing your financial investments, it's good to diversify.
• 55:43
  Right.
• 55:43
  Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
• 55:44
  Well, first of all, my portfolio, why we all have to.
• 55:48
  It's either light switch, gasoline, diesel, or electric, one or
• 55:52
  the other, nothing in between.
• 55:53
  Well, it depends on different strokes for different folks.
• 55:57
  There's times if you can afford an 80, 000 EV and you live in the city and
• 56:01
  you go three mile commute or barely use your car, that might make perfect sense.
• 56:04
  And you have charging stations everywhere.
• 56:06
  If you're out in rural America and you're driving 70 miles to go to
• 56:10
  work, it probably doesn't make sense, but a hybrid or a traditional ICE.
• 56:15
  We'll see how this all plays out.
• 56:17
  Maybe they, the powers that be have it right and there
• 56:20
  is only one to rule them all.
• 56:22
  I don't think so.
• 56:23
  I don't think so either.
• 56:24
  There was another article that came across my desk that made
• 56:27
  me pose the question yet again.
• 56:29
  How is this still a thing?
• 56:31
  Honda?
• 56:32
  Is still dealing with Takata airbag recalls, and these aren't on the old cars.
• 56:38
  These are a newer cars.
• 56:39
  How have they not nip this in the bud yet?
• 56:42
  It feels like this has been going on for forever.
• 56:45
  The problem is, so if this was GM, they wouldn't have this problem
• 56:49
  because their cars don't run that long.
• 56:50
  But this is Honda, where they made the mistake of making a vehicle that
• 56:55
  can run for longer than 20 years.
• 56:57
  So now the vehicles are outliving the useful life of their components,
• 57:02
  AKA the, uh, the death airbags, the mortars, the claymores.
• 57:08
  Yeah.
• 57:08
  The claymore mines.
• 57:09
  Yes.
• 57:10
  What you said reminds me a hundred percent of that meme that was floating
• 57:13
  around about all the Camry owners from like 1996, how Toyota was recalling
• 57:18
  them because they'd been on the road for too long by something else.
• 57:22
  They're unstoppable.
• 57:23
  And to your point, they're just so under stress.
• 57:26
  Not necessarily that they're well built, it's that they're
• 57:29
  under stressed, those cars are.
• 57:30
  And so they just last forever.
• 57:32
  But there's the neglect side of that, right?
• 57:35
  They run forever.
• 57:36
  Nobody takes care of them.
• 57:38
  You don't have to.
• 57:38
  Yeah, because you don't have to.
• 57:39
  It's like a lawnmower.
• 57:40
  As long as it starts, it cuts your grass.
• 57:41
  You even sharpen the blade.
• 57:43
  I mean, what the hell's wrong with you?
• 57:44
  So that's a waste of time.
• 57:45
  The grass is cut.
• 57:47
  In this instance, I mean, this Takata thing is just, Man, but they issued a
• 57:51
  do not drive warning to 8, 200 owners.
• 57:54
  I mean, that's pretty severe.
• 57:55
  Now that seems to be the growing trend with recalls these days.
• 57:58
  Everything is do not drive.
• 58:00
  Park it in a target parking lot and run away.
• 58:02
  Throw a Molotov in the window and just bolt.
• 58:05
  No, just light a candle.
• 58:07
  Yeah.
• 58:07
  Like that Florida man.
• 58:08
  Whatever.
• 58:10
  Speaking of how is this still a thing?
• 58:12
  We're going to talk about this freaking Hyundai again, for like
• 58:16
  the sixth or seventh month in a row.
• 58:18
  The N 74 concept, they are playing the hokey pokey one minute.
• 58:23
  It's in one minute.
• 58:24
  It's out.
• 58:25
  It's a rolling lab.
• 58:26
  No, it's not.
• 58:27
  It's a concept, you know, it isn't here.
• 58:29
  We are.
• 58:30
  Again, well, they didn't say they're going to make it.
• 58:33
  They just said that they're not possibly going to put a price tag on it.
• 58:39
  They've estimated what they think this hydrogen hybrid electric,
• 58:44
  whatever this thing is, nearly had an.
• 58:46
  And your ISM, when I saw the price tag and it will not be affordable by anybody.
• 58:52
  Yeah.
• 58:52
  What, what they did is they threw out an FU number.
• 58:55
  So they've been listening to critics.
• 58:56
  The critics have been saying, Oh, you got to make it.
• 58:59
  You got to make it.
• 58:59
  You got to make it.
• 59:00
  And they're like, all right, all right.
• 59:01
  We're going to make it.
• 59:02
  And if we make it.
• 59:03
  This is the cost you MFers want this car.
• 59:06
  This is what it's going to cost you.
• 59:08
  You know what?
• 59:08
  This might be a bold strategy cotton.
• 59:11
  Cause I bet there's going to be some rich people that are like, hell yeah.
• 59:14
  Sign me up.
• 59:15
  We're in car pre order.
• 59:16
  And then, and then they should just be like, hell yeah,
• 59:18
  here, here's three of them.
• 59:21
  And then it'll depreciate faster than a Veloster.
• 59:23
  So the rest of us can afford one.
• 59:25
  Yeah.
• 59:25
  So, so what they're doing is they're doing the Tesla model
• 59:28
  where they take on what's called.
• 59:30
  All these deposits.
• 59:32
  And then they're like, then we'll produce a car for you in five years.
• 59:36
  You can have it in five years.
• 59:38
  150 G's is a big pill to swallow for anything, but I think it's even
• 59:42
  harder to swallow on a Hyundai.
• 59:45
  That would be the most expensive Hyundai.
• 59:47
  Ever.
• 59:47
  All they have to do is just take the body and put it on like a Genesis
• 59:52
  Coop, a Genesis or something.
• 59:54
  It's built on top of a stinger.
• 59:56
  The stinger's on its way out.
• 59:58
  Who cares?
• 59:59
  Put that body on a stinger and people will buy it.
• 1:00:02
  Okay.
• 1:00:02
  It doesn't need to have NASA propulsion in it.
• 1:00:05
  No, it doesn't.
• 1:00:06
  It's like Mr.
• 1:00:06
  Fusion in that thing, right?
• 1:00:07
  So, uh, factory five, stop making replica cobra registers and
• 1:00:13
  start making replica in 75 cars.
• 1:00:16
  If it was 50 G's, not 150 G's, if it was 50 grand.
• 1:00:22
  And out now with the Nissan, which we're not sure if that's out yet either.
• 1:00:26
  And the Supra and everything else, I would really consider it because it is so
• 1:00:31
  cool because everything's so expensive, that 50 grand price point, you can
• 1:00:37
  kind of make it work for a sports car.
• 1:00:39
  If you're dedicated and you're an enthusiast, but 150, 000, you're
• 1:00:43
  in Porsche territory at that point, or low end Ferrari territory.
• 1:00:46
  I mean, you better have a killer car.
• 1:00:49
  It can't be all looks.
• 1:00:50
  That's all I'm saying that it looks damn good.
• 1:00:54
  Well, what about other.
• 1:00:55
  Evie's and concepts, Tanya, our friends at Volvo Polestar.
• 1:01:00
  Oh, okay.
• 1:01:01
  I was confused.
• 1:01:02
  Yes.
• 1:01:03
  Well, you know, Polestar, Volvo, technically.
• 1:01:05
  Yeah.
• 1:01:06
  So Polestar is unveiling its next model for next year, the Polestar two,
• 1:01:11
  and they're going to be adding even more power and 300 miles of range.
• 1:01:16
  And these things are cool.
• 1:01:18
  Are they though?
• 1:01:19
  I think so.
• 1:01:20
  Are they?
• 1:01:20
  Polestar one.
• 1:01:22
  Whoa.
• 1:01:22
  Eat you up.
• 1:01:24
  That was the one that was at the DC Auto Show, and its numbers are just
• 1:01:28
  like ridiculous in terms of performance.
• 1:01:31
  But it still looks like an S 60 though, right.
• 1:01:34
  Which I don't have a problem with.
• 1:01:36
  I don't have a problem with that.
• 1:01:37
  I don't have a problem.
• 1:01:37
  It's, it's always the price tag.
• 1:01:39
  It's always the price tag.
• 1:01:40
  Well, and that's the problem.
• 1:01:41
  Like I can't afford a Polestar.
• 1:01:43
  You can't afford the Polestar 1.
• 1:01:46
  000.
• 1:01:47
  I think it's up there in that neighborhood.
• 1:01:49
  Yeah, 150, 000 to 180, 000, I think you were saying.
• 1:01:51
  I mean, it's ridiculous.
• 1:01:53
  But I have seen more regular, let's call them entry model Polestars on
• 1:01:57
  the road lately, and they kind of catch me by surprise because at first
• 1:02:00
  you're like, Ah, this is a Volvo.
• 1:02:01
  And then you see, That symbol right on the back.
• 1:02:04
  And you're like, that's, that's a pole star.
• 1:02:06
  And at night they're more obvious because of the way the lights are shaped.
• 1:02:09
  They're kind of, they really do stick out, which is kind of cool.
• 1:02:12
  They're not offensive looking because they do hark back to
• 1:02:17
  the Volvo that they're based on.
• 1:02:18
  But again, it's like, uh, you know, maybe, maybe we could just got to drive one.
• 1:02:22
  The problem is where do you go to go check one of these cars out?
• 1:02:25
  I don't know.
• 1:02:26
  I've never looked into it.
• 1:02:27
  I.
• 1:02:28
  Were they the ones that basically like you do everything and they
• 1:02:31
  like show up with the car for you?
• 1:02:33
  I think so.
• 1:02:33
  And that's a growing trend now.
• 1:02:35
  And actually segues into something I wanted to talk about, which is
• 1:02:37
  another article I read the other day.
• 1:02:39
  I believe it was from a grassroots motorsports or one of them.
• 1:02:42
  And they were talking about dealerships being a thing in the past.
• 1:02:46
  Why do you want to go to the dealership spend all day when you could just
• 1:02:49
  fill out the forms online, you can get the credit pre applications now
• 1:02:52
  for just about everything online.
• 1:02:55
  And you could order the card the way you want it.
• 1:02:57
  So then the dealerships just become service centers, which people
• 1:03:01
  choose not to go to, like we talked about with the Takata airbags.
• 1:03:04
  You have your choice.
• 1:03:05
  Do you want to take it there to get service?
• 1:03:07
  You want to go somewhere else, whatever.
• 1:03:08
  But I am personally done with dealing with dealerships and you
• 1:03:12
  know, no offense to the sales guys, everybody's got to make a living.
• 1:03:14
  I've said it before.
• 1:03:15
  I want what I want.
• 1:03:17
  And it would just be nice to use the configurator online.
• 1:03:20
  I want those wheels.
• 1:03:22
  I want that color.
• 1:03:23
  I want that trim.
• 1:03:25
  Send it.
• 1:03:26
  And it's not necessarily here.
• 1:03:27
  Run my credit card like it was in the nineties.
• 1:03:29
  You know, people are putting houses on their credit cards because
• 1:03:31
  it's getting the points and stuff.
• 1:03:33
  It's not that kind of thing, but all the loan application
• 1:03:36
  stuff can be done online now.
• 1:03:37
  I don't get it.
• 1:03:38
  So if Polestar is in fact doing it that way, I don't have a problem with it.
• 1:03:44
  Now I had a wha, wha.
• 1:03:47
  moment when I saw this next one.
• 1:03:49
  Why?
• 1:03:49
  What do you mean?
• 1:03:50
  Who's Lightyear?
• 1:03:51
  Why do I care?
• 1:03:52
  And they're suddenly out of business.
• 1:03:53
  What?
• 1:03:54
  We've talked about them before on a previous episode.
• 1:03:56
  Who?
• 1:03:57
  Well Buzz?
• 1:03:58
  Lightyear?
• 1:03:59
  I mean, they're like a Dutch company that was trying to do the
• 1:04:02
  whole solar panel on the whole top of the car and all that stuff.
• 1:04:05
  And it was going to be the solar powered EV.
• 1:04:08
  How did that work out for them again?
• 1:04:09
  Apparently not very well, because I would imagine their cost of manufacture
• 1:04:14
  was way too high and unsustainable.
• 1:04:16
  Ah, so the bigger question becomes who will absorb their technology, their
• 1:04:22
  patents and all the factory that they were using and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:04:25
  So that's the thing I want to pay attention to.
• 1:04:28
  It's not necessarily the fact that light year is going out of business or.
• 1:04:31
  Well, and there's all the whole, that whole bankruptcy whole scene is all
• 1:04:34
  bright just because they're bankrupt.
• 1:04:35
  Doesn't mean the company closes and who knows how they restructure.
• 1:04:39
  And then suddenly they're still there.
• 1:04:41
  And I don't know, cause they talk about building cheaper solar EVs than like this
• 1:04:47
  Buick size, like limousine length, late year one, it looked like, so I don't know.
• 1:04:52
  I have no idea.
• 1:04:53
  Well, since you brought up restructuring and bankruptcy, and we're not sure how
• 1:04:56
  it all works, that leads us to Lotus.
• 1:04:59
  If you look into the history of one of Britain's finest engineering companies
• 1:05:04
  with a long racing pedigree, I mean, all jokes aside about Lotus, there's
• 1:05:07
  some interesting stuff in their past, but now they made the announcement.
• 1:05:12
  That they're going to move to EVs as well, because I was sort of wondering
• 1:05:16
  what was going to happen to Lotus.
• 1:05:17
  Lotus has always sort of said, I kind of don't care what everybody else is doing.
• 1:05:21
  We're going to build sports cars or race cars or whatever.
• 1:05:23
  They've always been focused really on the enthusiasts and motor sports.
• 1:05:26
  And here they come with the Electra.
• 1:05:30
  Because everything has to start with E at Lotus for some weird reason.
• 1:05:33
  It used to be numbers, you know, type this, you know, Lotus 7
• 1:05:36
  and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:05:37
  Now we have all E names since, you know, the Eclat and the early
• 1:05:40
  cars and the Esprit and all that.
• 1:05:42
  So the Elettra.
• 1:05:43
  It's Elettra.
• 1:05:43
  Boogie woogie.
• 1:05:45
  Boogie woogie.
• 1:05:46
  I mean, it's built in China.
• 1:05:47
  It's ugly.
• 1:05:48
  Yeah, that's all I got to say.
• 1:05:50
  It looks like a really bad Urus.
• 1:05:51
  I was going to say it looks like a Urus and that's not a good thing.
• 1:05:54
  No, it doesn't look like a Lotus.
• 1:05:57
  It just.
• 1:05:57
  Doesn't.
• 1:05:58
  It's probably a Geely or whatever they're called underneath.
• 1:06:02
  It is by the Geely group.
• 1:06:03
  Geely bought Lotus six years ago.
• 1:06:06
  Wow.
• 1:06:06
  Has it been that long?
• 1:06:08
  This thing is awful.
• 1:06:09
  If somebody out there buys one, I'd be curious to take a
• 1:06:11
  ride in it, but not so much.
• 1:06:15
  So speaking of other random EVs and going back to our Dawn project and self driving,
• 1:06:23
  maybe there'll be a PSA on this too.
• 1:06:25
  But however, Amazon and it's been going on for several years that they've
• 1:06:29
  been trying to do small little robo taxis, full self driving yada yada,
• 1:06:33
  apparently in whichever this Sub branch of Amazon, Zoox, that it's called.
• 1:06:39
  It's developing these driverless taxis for use on the road.
• 1:06:42
  They have done it.
• 1:06:44
  Done what?
• 1:06:44
  They're on the road.
• 1:06:46
  These things don't have steering wheels, no controls, and they'll drive you around.
• 1:06:51
  Right now they're only driving you around like a mile back and forth on campus.
• 1:06:57
  Are they utilizing a tunnel under the road?
• 1:06:59
  No, I don't think so.
• 1:07:01
  It's kind of like a moment where it's like, Oh, cool.
• 1:07:04
  We did this, but it's like, well, they're getting closer.
• 1:07:07
  Maybe they really just have like a beta test here with humans.
• 1:07:14
  Johnny cab, Johnny cab.
• 1:07:16
  And if it.
• 1:07:17
  If it works anything like their streaming service, I'm not convinced.
• 1:07:20
  I mean, that's where the future is going.
• 1:07:22
  So, you know, not my future.
• 1:07:24
  The real question is, are they able to make the technology work?
• 1:07:27
  Cause if they could beat, you know, who, and actually have something
• 1:07:30
  that works reliably, it doesn't mow down small children or animals.
• 1:07:34
  There's other variables at play at the other manufacturer.
• 1:07:37
  Cause there's a whole tailspin going on there too, which we'll
• 1:07:40
  cover here in a little bit.
• 1:07:41
  Well, it's an interesting, like these, like a little robo taxi.
• 1:07:44
  I don't know, like how big this thing is.
• 1:07:47
  Cause there's been some other ones that like Pizza Hut or Domino's or like
• 1:07:50
  delivery services have been trying.
• 1:07:52
  You've got the canoe and the postal service is using Oshkosh, my gosh.
• 1:07:56
  So canoe is still coming out.
• 1:07:58
  They haven't gone under, unlike some of the other ones.
• 1:08:00
  You see, there's a place for everything.
• 1:08:02
  If you're at like a large.
• 1:08:03
  Distribution center, maybe like an Amazon or any other big manufacturing
• 1:08:07
  plant that would require people to like move from one end to the other.
• 1:08:11
  At any point, if you had like this little robo taxi, one, two seater, three seater,
• 1:08:15
  I mean, that's a pretty efficient means of transporting your people around without
• 1:08:19
  having a lot of downtime and waste.
• 1:08:21
  I don't know if it would work in the city streets of New York City yet, which is.
• 1:08:26
  Likely the end goal for people, but there could be applications
• 1:08:29
  where it could make sense.
• 1:08:31
  I sometimes think moving sidewalks in New York City would
• 1:08:34
  be faster than taking a cab.
• 1:08:36
  Well, there is a company that has moonwalkers, I think they're
• 1:08:39
  called, something like that.
• 1:08:40
  It's like these bizarre roller skate bases that you step into
• 1:08:44
  and it speeds up your walking.
• 1:08:46
  Why can't we just have the hoverboards like they promised
• 1:08:49
  us in Back to the Future?
• 1:08:50
  Get this.
• 1:08:51
  It senses like your body motion.
• 1:08:53
  So like, if you pull back a little bit, it like, it'll slow down.
• 1:08:56
  Like that's how you stop.
• 1:08:57
  But then I was like, how the hell do you go up like stairs
• 1:08:59
  or downstairs with these things?
• 1:09:01
  Right.
• 1:09:01
  You just bounce your way up.
• 1:09:03
  No.
• 1:09:04
  So what you do is when you approach the step and I forget which way
• 1:09:07
  is which, but you click your heel out to like lock them and then you
• 1:09:12
  click your heel in to unlock them.
• 1:09:13
  So imagine bicycles where you have clip ons.
• 1:09:18
  I'm just thinking, like, the number of people that are gonna, like, fall over
• 1:09:20
  at the top of a staircase with this.
• 1:09:24
  But we digress.
• 1:09:25
  They can't all be Crocs, that's for sure.
• 1:09:27
  Don't give him any ideas.
• 1:09:28
  Healy Crocs.
• 1:09:29
  It's time to move on to Brad's favorite section, Lost and Found.
• 1:09:33
  Mm hmm.
• 1:09:33
  Did you tally up how many Dodge Dart we found over the course of Season 3?
• 1:09:38
  That's an important statistic for our listeners.
• 1:09:40
  I believe it's zero, but if there is a joke in there for the longest running car,
• 1:09:46
  not sold, there is a 1988 Cadillac DeVille base still for sale, a gray Chevrolet.
• 1:09:53
  Oh my God.
• 1:09:54
  Somebody buy this thing, please.
• 1:09:56
  And report back.
• 1:09:57
  We would love to have you on the show.
• 1:09:58
  The Ford GT is still out there and then there's a brand new 2008 Scion XB.
• 1:10:05
  Scion is not a company anymore, but you can still buy a brand new Scion
• 1:10:11
  XB for 4, 800 at VW of Clarksville.
• 1:10:14
  You can buy a Toyota at a Volkswagen dealer.
• 1:10:16
  It's brilliant.
• 1:10:16
  And obviously the joke is that these dealers, they put so many cars
• 1:10:20
  on these websites, they don't pay attention, new use, whatever, so.
• 1:10:23
  It's definitely not a new vehicle, but also I was looking at bring a trailer.
• 1:10:27
  Oh, trying to see what's going on.
• 1:10:28
  Our favorite outrageously priced shopping place.
• 1:10:31
  Yes.
• 1:10:31
  Right now, current bid ends in 15 hours, a 37 mile 2021 McLaren Elva, which
• 1:10:39
  is a car I didn't even know existed.
• 1:10:42
  Right.
• 1:10:42
  Current bid is 1.
• 1:10:44
  6 million.
• 1:10:44
  Ooh.
• 1:10:46
  I'll get two, but if that doesn't tickle your fancy also closing in 15
• 1:10:52
  hours, a 1993 Volkswagen Corrado SLC VR six five speed that just went up in
• 1:10:59
  value because no more VR sixes exist.
• 1:11:01
  The current bid is 7, 600.
• 1:11:04
  You know, if it's in really good shape, Actually not bad for a Corrado.
• 1:11:08
  It has to be in really good shape to be on bring a trailer.
• 1:11:11
  So now the disappointing part about the Corrado is, and believe me, I'm a fan.
• 1:11:15
  So I can throw shade and we've owned one of these cars is
• 1:11:18
  everything that isn't the body
• 1:11:22
  because it's a Mark two underneath it's a 12 LVR six gear boxes, whatever, with the
• 1:11:27
  stupid seat belts, very nineties interior.
• 1:11:30
  I mean, it is a cool car for a period.
• 1:11:33
  I wouldn't.
• 1:11:33
  Throw one away if somebody gave one to me, but you're faced with all
• 1:11:37
  those early 90s Volkswagen stuff.
• 1:11:40
  The other problem with the Corrado is it's super specific.
• 1:11:43
  Everything about that car is for that car.
• 1:11:45
  There is some interchangeability with other stuff, but whatever.
• 1:11:47
  The bigger point here, 7, 600.
• 1:11:50
  I actually feel like the values come down because Corrado's were almost untouchable
• 1:11:54
  at one point for less than five figures.
• 1:11:56
  And to see one under that low mileage and great condition, that's a steal.
• 1:12:01
  Grab that thing.
• 1:12:02
  Get your checkbook ready.
• 1:12:03
  2004 Volkswagen R32 bidding ends in 15 hours.
• 1:12:07
  Current bid is 11, 000.
• 1:12:09
  That's really low.
• 1:12:10
  Well, it's, it's not stock mod and it's got a Magnaflow exhaust, the aftermarket
• 1:12:15
  intake, Alcantara headliner, KW variant, three coil overs, 18 inch BBS wheels,
• 1:12:21
  so it's got some tasteful mods done.
• 1:12:23
  We have a barn find in the mix too, right?
• 1:12:25
  For our resident car enthusiast, car flipper, Andrew Bank,
• 1:12:31
  have we got a car for you?
• 1:12:32
  1967 Chevrolet Corvette, 67 custom Stingray.
• 1:12:37
  That is the title.
• 1:12:38
  No, that is not the title of this car.
• 1:12:41
  It literally says, quote, The Boomer special . That's what the meme says.
• 1:12:46
  But the Craigslist ad says 67 Chevrolet Corvette 67, custom Stingray 67.
• 1:12:52
  67 67.
• 1:12:54
  It, it has 6,700 miles, 6,700 miles on a 67 body on a 2010 chassis.
• 1:13:01
  This thing looks terrible.
• 1:13:02
  It looks disgusting.
• 1:13:03
  I mean, it's supposed to be a C two, but the roof line is completely wrong.
• 1:13:08
  The roof line is C six, right?
• 1:13:11
  And the worst part is.
• 1:13:12
  Despite the way it looks is the cost.
• 1:13:14
  I mean, I get it.
• 1:13:15
  It's modded, it's custom.
• 1:13:16
  It's this, it's that, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:13:18
  If it suits your fancy fine, but 125, 000, no low balls.
• 1:13:21
  I know what I have, but on the other side of that, there was a 79 Firebird
• 1:13:25
  Trans Am that showed up in a barn find.
• 1:13:28
  It only has 37 original miles on it.
• 1:13:31
  It's up for auction.
• 1:13:32
  Yep.
• 1:13:32
  That is a production.
• 1:13:33
  Beautiful car.
• 1:13:34
  Mountain Man Dan found for you this month.
• 1:13:36
  Your next race car, Brad.
• 1:13:37
  What's that?
• 1:13:38
  Danica Patrick's old Arca car.
• 1:13:40
  You know, if I ever get back into tracking, like I used to, maybe
• 1:13:45
  when the kid gets older, I could see picking up something like this.
• 1:13:48
  Although I wouldn't do a car.
• 1:13:49
  I'd probably do one of those craftsmen series pickup trucks.
• 1:13:52
  Yeah, those are pretty slick.
• 1:13:53
  Wow.
• 1:13:54
  This thing's sold for 5, 000.
• 1:13:56
  That's cheap, right?
• 1:13:57
  This is back in her go daddy days.
• 1:13:59
  Well, there's no motor.
• 1:14:00
  It's just a chassis.
• 1:14:01
  I mean, you can pick up a motor for like 200 bucks.
• 1:14:04
  Come on.
• 1:14:04
  It's just a 350 trans.
• 1:14:06
  Yeah.
• 1:14:06
  I mean, that's cheap stuff though.
• 1:14:08
  Still now, like we've done throughout various drive through episodes
• 1:14:12
  this season, we have yet another candidate for our uncool wall.
• 1:14:17
  I don't know.
• 1:14:21
  Is that actually how it came or someone just Retrofitted,
• 1:14:25
  uh, tarp on the back of it.
• 1:14:27
  No, Don Wieberg sent us this one as a candidate this month.
• 1:14:30
  It is a 1978 Pontiac Phoenix with the camping package.
• 1:14:35
  Going back to our friends in the Aztec community, it looks like the Aztec
• 1:14:40
  was not the first Pontiac with a add on camping package for their vehicle.
• 1:14:46
  But what boggles my mind is how you access this.
• 1:14:49
  It's considered.
• 1:14:50
  A hatchback lift back that this thing is like 150 feet long.
• 1:14:55
  It used to be a four door and they turned it into a two door hatchback.
• 1:14:59
  So it's 11 million feet long.
• 1:15:01
  The Phoenix was available as a two door coupe, a four door sedan with a three
• 1:15:05
  door hatchback that was available in 1978.
• 1:15:08
  All in the same chassis.
• 1:15:09
  So there you go.
• 1:15:10
  It's huge.
• 1:15:11
  So they literally just.
• 1:15:12
  Took the rear doors off and then put a tent on the trunk lid.
• 1:15:17
  This is Aztec level engineering.
• 1:15:19
  And the tent is secured by pulling the bungee cord into the door and
• 1:15:26
  shutting the door on it, apparently.
• 1:15:28
  I mean, how do you think the Aztec one works?
• 1:15:30
  It's the same stuff.
• 1:15:33
  It's actually not terrible.
• 1:15:35
  Look, it's terrible in that color.
• 1:15:38
  It's like a bigger version of that citation X 11 and
• 1:15:42
  all those cars from that era.
• 1:15:44
  They all sort of looked the same before we move on from lost and found.
• 1:15:49
  I don't know if you all saw Doug DeMuro started his own trading site, his own
• 1:15:53
  auction site called cars and bids.
• 1:15:55
  Yeah.
• 1:15:55
  That's been for a while now.
• 1:15:57
  Yeah.
• 1:15:57
  Well, he just got a multimillion dollar cash investment from some firm
• 1:16:02
  that I saw on his post on Instagram.
• 1:16:05
  What are we doing wrong?
• 1:16:09
  We're not selling cars.
• 1:16:10
  That's it.
• 1:16:10
  No, you had to have started on YouTube when you were like five years old.
• 1:16:14
  And then, you know, just We would be remiss.
• 1:16:19
  Oh, is it that time again?
• 1:16:21
  It is that time again.
• 1:16:22
  Do we have any Tesla news?
• 1:16:24
  Or is it just Elon Musk news?
• 1:16:26
  Do we have to separate now after 31 episodes?
• 1:16:29
  Yeah, Tesla doesn't exist anymore.
• 1:16:31
  It's just Elon Musk.
• 1:16:31
  It's just the Elon Musk circus.
• 1:16:34
  Twitter still sucks.
• 1:16:35
  There's no Cybertruck.
• 1:16:36
  Those are the highlights, yeah.
• 1:16:39
  Next.
• 1:16:40
  In seriousness though.
• 1:16:42
  Didn't use Twitter before.
• 1:16:43
  I'm sure as hell not going to use it now.
• 1:16:45
  Well, even less people are going to be using Twitter soon because now
• 1:16:48
  they're going to start charging for API integration, which means everybody
• 1:16:53
  that was, let's say, orchestrating or automating anything with Twitter dead.
• 1:16:56
  All that stuff's gone.
• 1:16:57
  Really?
• 1:16:58
  Yep.
• 1:16:58
  Oh, I hadn't heard that.
• 1:16:59
  Yeah.
• 1:17:00
  I don't know what he's going to do when he fires.
• 1:17:01
  Everybody keeps firing the engineers and the people doing the work.
• 1:17:05
  Is he Willy Wonka?
• 1:17:06
  Like he just comes down to the door.
• 1:17:07
  Fire!
• 1:17:09
  And out you go.
• 1:17:09
  I don't know, because the latest firing was like, employee mentions how
• 1:17:14
  the polling results say that you're unfavorable, and he's like, you're fired!
• 1:17:18
  Don't know if that's how it really went down, but Sounds like a Simpsons Mr.
• 1:17:22
  Burns thing.
• 1:17:24
  Oh, get it in that vein.
• 1:17:26
  They've literally like just announced engineering headquarters
• 1:17:30
  is moving from Austin.
• 1:17:31
  Wait, wait, hold on.
• 1:17:32
  Didn't pump the brakes a second.
• 1:17:34
  Didn't they just get there?
• 1:17:36
  They just displaced like tens of thousands of people.
• 1:17:40
  Yeah.
• 1:17:40
  Well, isn't, isn't it kind of expensive to move your headquarters?
• 1:17:44
  Not only did he just displace a bunch of people in 2021, in the middle
• 1:17:48
  of the pandemic, they also gave.
• 1:17:51
  People in Ultimatum, after they went to fully remote work, where it was
• 1:17:55
  like, you're going to show up in Austin in the next two days or you're fired.
• 1:18:00
  So there's a theme.
• 1:18:01
  And now they're moving the engineering headquarters back
• 1:18:04
  to Palo Alto, California.
• 1:18:07
  California.
• 1:18:07
  Yes, and people say this guy is a business mastermind.
• 1:18:13
  Tesla is going to be the company to rule them all with stuff like this.
• 1:18:17
  Seriously.
• 1:18:18
  It makes you scratch your head.
• 1:18:20
  I don't think the true answer of why this is happening has been revealed.
• 1:18:23
  Is it all part of the Well, here's the thing.
• 1:18:27
  One source or whatever is questioning, is it because we're moving it?
• 1:18:32
  So he's now closer to Twitter, but then this whole Twitter thing,
• 1:18:35
  he's like, I'm going to find a new CEO by the end of 2023.
• 1:18:39
  Like, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:18:40
  Like, are you really?
• 1:18:41
  You said that two weeks after you joined the company.
• 1:18:43
  Hook it over that you were going to replace yourself and you still haven't.
• 1:18:46
  So I don't know, like, why are you moving back and forth, back and forth?
• 1:18:50
  You just built this whole giga Austin corporate headquarters, I think is still
• 1:18:54
  going to stay there, but everyone in engineering is going to go to Palo Alto,
• 1:18:58
  which, cause we want to be back in the.
• 1:19:00
  Tech Silicon Valley, California version.
• 1:19:03
  Womp womp.
• 1:19:05
  about that.
• 1:19:05
  Womp womp.
• 1:19:06
  But maybe we'll learn more about the reasoning and the rationale on March 1st
• 1:19:12
  at the Tesla Investors Day, where he will unveil his part three to his master plan.
• 1:19:18
  Is he going to do it with like a mini version of himself next to him?
• 1:19:22
  Well, the way he's spending money, it's like who needs billions?
• 1:19:26
  When you could have millions.
• 1:19:27
  Who is the CEO of WeatherTech?
• 1:19:30
  Who is the CEO of any number of successful companies?
• 1:19:35
  We have no idea who these people's names are, yet their companies are
• 1:19:38
  still massively and wildly successful.
• 1:19:41
  Can he just go to Mars, please?
• 1:19:43
  Just hop on one of his stupid little SpaceX penis missiles and go to Mars.
• 1:19:47
  I'm so sick of this tool.
• 1:19:50
  Give me back my hundred dollars for my Cybertruck.
• 1:19:53
  That's what you're really bitter about.
• 1:19:55
  There it is.
• 1:19:56
  There it is.
• 1:19:56
  The promises, the bait, the bait and switch.
• 1:19:59
  All that dogecoin.
• 1:20:01
  At the earliest, we might see, reports are saying, the Cybertruck
• 1:20:06
  at the end of this year.
• 1:20:07
  At the earliest, but probably not.
• 1:20:11
  I love those headlines.
• 1:20:12
  Haslam will be out of business and they'll still be promising
• 1:20:16
  people that Cybertrucks are coming.
• 1:20:17
  I mean, come on.
• 1:20:19
  The Cybertruck is becoming the new Chinese democracy album from Guns N Roses.
• 1:20:24
  It's coming.
• 1:20:24
  It's coming.
• 1:20:25
  Didn't it come out like 20 years later?
• 1:20:27
  It did eventually come.
• 1:20:28
  Yeah, you're right.
• 1:20:29
  It did.
• 1:20:29
  It did.
• 1:20:30
  Because everyone's speculating that the production level model will unveil.
• 1:20:35
  And well, there's one really crappy video that someone took.
• 1:20:38
  Of I guess a Cybertruck running through Austin.
• 1:20:41
  Is it the one with the mirrors or without the mirrors?
• 1:20:43
  Got the mirrors on it, baby.
• 1:20:45
  Does it have the lasers?
• 1:20:46
  Big sad mirrors.
• 1:20:48
  And I also noticed something as this person was filming on like freaking
• 1:20:51
  Nokia flip phone from I don't know when.
• 1:20:54
  It's like the NASA videos, right?
• 1:20:56
  We have these high intensity.
• 1:20:59
  High definition cameras.
• 1:21:01
  And every picture of the moon is grainy as all get out.
• 1:21:04
  Like it was taken in 1986.
• 1:21:06
  I don't know what camera this was really bad.
• 1:21:09
  They were taken in 86.
• 1:21:11
  They just are just now getting back to us.
• 1:21:14
  But what struck me as it was like.
• 1:21:16
  Cybertruck was passing in front of this person, the reflections in the side
• 1:21:20
  panel, I was like, what kind of glare blinding in your eyes is this thing
• 1:21:27
  gonna do on the road on a sunny day?
• 1:21:30
  Were the panels straight?
• 1:21:31
  No.
• 1:21:32
  The sheet metal from Home Depot is not very straight.
• 1:21:35
  You gotta like really bang it out and everything to get it nice and perfect.
• 1:21:39
  So I'll say this, to its credit, if it's stainless, Like the
• 1:21:42
  DeLoreans were back in the day.
• 1:21:44
  It's actually not that bad in the sun.
• 1:21:46
  It won't completely blind you.
• 1:21:49
  It is very noticeable, but yeah, I don't know.
• 1:21:52
  The DeLoreans didn't have giant sides for the sun to reflect off of.
• 1:21:57
  It was very angular and kind of more, it makes sense that the DeLorean wouldn't.
• 1:22:00
  This thing is just a giant.
• 1:22:03
  And if anybody's driven through a city on a nice sunny day, all those
• 1:22:06
  windows and everything, you're blinded.
• 1:22:08
  You can't drive through the city.
• 1:22:09
  You're going to hit the pedestrians with your fully autonomous car
• 1:22:13
  or not because you can't see.
• 1:22:16
  And the cyber truck is the size of the empire state building.
• 1:22:19
  It's going to do the same thing.
• 1:22:20
  It is very, very, but with lasers, let me lower your expectation fully.
• 1:22:24
  And I haven't even gotten there yet.
• 1:22:26
  So they're expecting to see the latest version rolled out at
• 1:22:30
  the investors day, March 1st.
• 1:22:31
  The thoughts are there'll be several tweaks to it.
• 1:22:34
  Don't know yet about if a windshield wiper is getting put on there or
• 1:22:37
  not, or if it's lasers, but the sides will be How is that even possible?
• 1:22:44
  Thank you.
• 1:22:44
  That was my first reaction.
• 1:22:45
  I was like, how do you make a box more square?
• 1:22:49
  Cardboard.
• 1:22:49
  Ikea proves that every week with everything they make.
• 1:22:53
  So I guess it's doable.
• 1:22:55
  You know, it's going to have so many changes.
• 1:22:57
  They're going to roll it out and it's going to be a
• 1:22:59
  Silverado with a Tesla badge.
• 1:23:01
  It's going to roll out.
• 1:23:01
  It's going to look like an F 150 lightning.
• 1:23:04
  It was the, here it is.
• 1:23:05
  Here's the cyber truck.
• 1:23:06
  Thank you, Ford, for doing all the work for.
• 1:23:08
  You're going to have a Model Y front end, and this is going to be a pickup truck.
• 1:23:12
  Yeah, it's going to have that platypus front end.
• 1:23:16
  It's going to be duct taped on, because you can get the duct
• 1:23:19
  tape pretty cheap at Home Depot.
• 1:23:20
  Quack, quack.
• 1:23:22
  Buy two, get one free rolls.
• 1:23:23
  That's terrible.
• 1:23:24
  I mean, that Thoroughly lowered my expectations.
• 1:23:27
  Lowered expectations.
• 1:23:30
  We've gotten there.
• 1:23:31
  And you know what?
• 1:23:32
  I'm going to finally grind this one into the ground.
• 1:23:35
  Thank you.
• 1:23:36
  Thank you.
• 1:23:37
  Last month, there was all this speculation about Jeremy Clarkson's latest.
• 1:23:42
  Childish temper tantrum.
• 1:23:44
  And we said, well, it's about time that we close the chapter on this.
• 1:23:48
  And you know, all the excuses aside, I feel like the drama it's sort
• 1:23:52
  of played out similarly to the way it did on top gear, it got old.
• 1:23:56
  And so we had to create this thing.
• 1:23:59
  And then Jeremy Clarkson and team left top gear and did the grand tour
• 1:24:03
  and the grand tour, a bunch of drama, and we punched people in the face
• 1:24:06
  and then we canceled the show and we went to the long format movies and
• 1:24:09
  now, because the movies are sucking.
• 1:24:11
  We're going to create some more drama and we're finally canceled for real.
• 1:24:15
  This time, Amazon has said we're done.
• 1:24:17
  It's it it's over.
• 1:24:18
  We are now in the post top gear era, which whatever.
• 1:24:22
  I thought we were already there like 10 years ago, but did it say anything
• 1:24:25
  about some of the offshoots, some of the other shows, not related to top gear,
• 1:24:29
  like Clarkson's farm and stuff like that, because season two just came out.
• 1:24:32
  Yeah, but that was already filmed a while ago.
• 1:24:34
  And I think with his latest just idiocy, there's been threats about
• 1:24:39
  canceling Clarkson's farm as well.
• 1:24:41
  So we'll see how that goes.
• 1:24:42
  I mean, he's doing nothing but pissing off his neighbors.
• 1:24:44
  That's for sure.
• 1:24:45
  If you watch the show, I mean, it's entertaining enough.
• 1:24:47
  Well, the first season was really good, but it wasn't about.
• 1:24:50
  Him just making his neighbors mad.
• 1:24:52
  It was him actually trying to learn how to farm.
• 1:24:54
  I guess now that he's done that, I don't see that lasting very long, long term.
• 1:24:59
  not like a top of your thing.
• 1:25:01
  It's like, all right, cool.
• 1:25:01
  Two seasons, max.
• 1:25:03
  So season two is done a third, but you're stretching it.
• 1:25:07
  What's he going to do?
• 1:25:08
  Right.
• 1:25:08
  True.
• 1:25:08
  He's going to retire.
• 1:25:09
  Credit where credit's due, he's getting up there in age.
• 1:25:12
  They all are.
• 1:25:13
  It's like, fine, bow out gracefully.
• 1:25:15
  You could have gone out on a high note when they exited top gear.
• 1:25:19
  Cause I think some of that whole publicity stunt was staged to bring in
• 1:25:23
  a new crew and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:25:24
  I mean, whatever, maybe he is a megalomaniac.
• 1:25:27
  I don't know, but I'd like to believe maybe not maybe a little bit.
• 1:25:31
  There's a little bit of a human in there.
• 1:25:33
  I don't know.
• 1:25:34
  My point is.
• 1:25:35
  Okay, I'm just glad.
• 1:25:36
  I don't have to hear about it again.
• 1:25:38
  So who's a worse human at this point?
• 1:25:40
  Jeremy Clarkson or Elon Musk?
• 1:25:42
  Both of them are basically man children.
• 1:25:44
  So Jeremy Clarkson just has a big mouth and doesn't know when to
• 1:25:47
  shut up, but Elon Musk actually believes the shit that he says.
• 1:25:50
  I feel like we're watching Boiler Room every time we talk about Tesla news.
• 1:25:57
  We're watching Wolf of Wall Street.
• 1:26:01
  Moving on.
• 1:26:01
  This next one speaks to also why I think the days of dealerships are over with.
• 1:26:07
  Apparently a dealership made a woman right in front of them.
• 1:26:12
  That was, you know, buying a car, filling out paperwork, basically
• 1:26:15
  prove that she was a human.
• 1:26:16
  Can confirm this happened to me when I bought my Tundra.
• 1:26:19
  No, swear to God.
• 1:26:21
  They had the little electronic things.
• 1:26:23
  Like we have to make everybody do this.
• 1:26:25
  Just sign.
• 1:26:26
  You are not a robot.
• 1:26:28
  I'm right here in front of you.
• 1:26:29
  I am not a robot.
• 1:26:31
  I can't even do the robot.
• 1:26:32
  I am not a robot.
• 1:26:33
  They're just preparing us.
• 1:26:35
  For the future of androids or the cyber crime that will ensue when you can
• 1:26:40
  order your car online and somebody has your identity and your credit card and
• 1:26:44
  suddenly, yeah, they just bought it.
• 1:26:46
  150, 000 Hyundai.
• 1:26:48
  I mean, if that showed up and I didn't have to pay for it and I'm just kidding.
• 1:26:52
  Drive it around the block once or twice and then how many different
• 1:26:55
  screens the capture you would have to go through to buy a car on.
• 1:27:00
  Oh, I just realized something.
• 1:27:02
  What if it was like Amazon's return policy and it showed up and you
• 1:27:07
  said you didn't actually order this.
• 1:27:10
  And so they said, keep it and they refunded you the money.
• 1:27:12
  No, they would never do it on that.
• 1:27:14
  Such a big purchase.
• 1:27:15
  Seen weirder things happen with Amazon.
• 1:27:17
  And then some of the cheapest thing, you're like, got to go
• 1:27:19
  through hoops to return it.
• 1:27:20
  Another thing that I don't understand, and we know it's become sort of
• 1:27:24
  an epidemic in the car community.
• 1:27:26
  And maybe this is why we need to move to EVs, which is catalytic
• 1:27:29
  converters being stolen from vehicles.
• 1:27:32
  You know, you hear these stories about guys sliding underneath trucks,
• 1:27:35
  cutting them off with the sawzall.
• 1:27:37
  They're in and out of there and, you know, 90 seconds.
• 1:27:39
  And the end of their time.
• 1:27:39
  Turn it in catalytic converters for, you know, whatever they're
• 1:27:42
  worth in precious metals.
• 1:27:43
  But I gotta say, you gotta be pretty ballsy to steal the catalytic converter
• 1:27:48
  off the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile.
• 1:27:51
  I mean, who does that?
• 1:27:52
  A delinquent.
• 1:27:56
  Who does that?
• 1:27:57
  It was Vegas.
• 1:27:58
  And what happens in Vegas, apparently gets sold on the black market.
• 1:28:03
  Apparently, if it's a catalytic converter, it doesn't stay in Vegas.
• 1:28:06
  I want to know how big the catalytic converter is on the Oscar Mayer Wiener
• 1:28:10
  Buffalo because that thing is huge.
• 1:28:11
  I think it's just like a school bus or something.
• 1:28:14
  So it's whatever the catalytic converter would look like on a school bus.
• 1:28:17
  Big.
• 1:28:17
  It's worth a lot of money.
• 1:28:18
  They fitted the truck or the wiener with a temporary cat.
• 1:28:22
  So in November, the FBI in Las Vegas arrested two men on charges of conspiracy.
• 1:28:29
  commit interstate transportation of stolen property in the resale of 71 catalytic
• 1:28:36
  converters for more than 16, 000.
• 1:28:40
  That's good money.
• 1:28:41
  I think I found my new side job.
• 1:28:43
  225 a catalytic converter.
• 1:28:45
  Is that good money?
• 1:28:46
  Is that a good use of your time?
• 1:28:47
  It is for 90 seconds with a sawzall.
• 1:28:49
  I mean, the blades don't cost a whole lot.
• 1:28:51
  I guess.
• 1:28:52
  I mean, if you're highly sophisticated, you got a creeper so you can roll out.
• 1:28:56
  Yeah.
• 1:28:56
  Under the car, roll out the other side with your catalytic converter.
• 1:28:59
  Who are you, Slender Man?
• 1:29:00
  Or are we rolling under, like, a Haven't you seen these trucks?
• 1:29:04
  They're stealing them from pickups.
• 1:29:05
  You can get under there and do all sorts of stuff without
• 1:29:07
  getting them off the ground.
• 1:29:08
  All right, if it's a truck, sure.
• 1:29:10
  But there's been plenty, like, Hondas that have had their
• 1:29:12
  catalytic converters taken out.
• 1:29:14
  Somebody come take the catalytic converters out of my car, please.
• 1:29:17
  So I can So I can get insurance to pay the 5, 000 or whatever
• 1:29:22
  it costs to put in new ones.
• 1:29:23
  Straight pipe it.
• 1:29:24
  Well, you know what else is crazy?
• 1:29:26
  Our favorite rental company hurts.
• 1:29:28
  Well, maybe not our favorite because it usually hurts my wallet to rent from them.
• 1:29:33
  They have to pay false arrest claims.
• 1:29:36
  So this is them renting a car to someone and then thinking
• 1:29:40
  that that person stole it.
• 1:29:43
  Top quality service.
• 1:29:45
  So they were using the same computer system the Southwest uses.
• 1:29:49
  Yes.
• 1:29:50
  Yes.
• 1:29:50
  I was going to say, when did Elon Musk become CEO of Hertz?
• 1:29:54
  Well, didn't they have a relationship with Tesla?
• 1:29:56
  They are buying a bunch of Teslas.
• 1:29:58
  So he clearly has a hand in this.
• 1:30:00
  And you're fired.
• 1:30:01
  You're fired.
• 1:30:02
  And you're fired.
• 1:30:03
  You brought the car back.
• 1:30:04
  You're fired.
• 1:30:05
  It's like an episode of The Apprentice.
• 1:30:07
  NASA employees operating government rented vehicles were
• 1:30:10
  some of the victims by Hertz.
• 1:30:11
  See?
• 1:30:12
  I'm telling you, collusion!
• 1:30:13
  SpaceX conspiracy.
• 1:30:15
  You can't get to work.
• 1:30:17
  Yes.
• 1:30:17
  You're fired.
• 1:30:17
  You're fired.
• 1:30:18
  Telling you, Elon Musk is the devil.
• 1:30:21
  Well, there you have it.
• 1:30:21
  Well, you know what?
• 1:30:22
  They say the devil goes down to Georgia, but in our case, we're
• 1:30:26
  going a little further south and talk about alligators and bear.
• 1:30:43
  You know what?
• 1:30:44
  We're going to start up north.
• 1:30:45
  We're gonna start in Michigan.
• 1:30:46
  This is a cute one.
• 1:30:47
  It's called Holy Cow, Michigan Man Rides Cow Across Woodward,
• 1:30:52
  meaning like a street.
• 1:30:53
  Oh, not Dave Woodward?
• 1:30:55
  No, no.
• 1:30:57
  No, Will the Cowboy and his pet heifer Hope were caught crossing
• 1:31:01
  the intersection together.
• 1:31:03
  On cowback.
• 1:31:05
  Who was riding who?
• 1:31:09
  Why did the cow cross the road?
• 1:31:11
  To get away from his owner.
• 1:31:13
  In fairness, I believe he works for like a farm that does sort
• 1:31:18
  of like petting zoo type stuff.
• 1:31:19
  So he was actually trying to train the cow.
• 1:31:22
  Heavy petting.
• 1:31:23
  To be rideable.
• 1:31:24
  I'm, you know, I, I don't know.
• 1:31:27
  Maybe that's what he was doing.
• 1:31:28
  To be what?
• 1:31:29
  I missed it.
• 1:31:34
  I love hearing the headlines before I click into the article.
• 1:31:36
  This is my new favorite game.
• 1:31:39
  So that was a little bit of light hearted humor.
• 1:31:42
  So now we can take a trip down south to Florida, man, where this one is This
• 1:31:47
  one's a public safety announcement.
• 1:31:49
  You know, don't do drugs.
• 1:31:51
  We've been fighting that war since the Bush administration.
• 1:31:53
  You know, don't drink and drive.
• 1:31:55
  Don't do drugs and drive.
• 1:31:57
  And don't do so many drugs that you drive through a cemetery
• 1:32:00
  mowing down all the tombstones and headstones and then exit the cemetery
• 1:32:05
  and drive into somebody's house.
• 1:32:07
  Wasn't that a scene in like Evil Dead?
• 1:32:09
  Like, I feel like this is like a Bruce Campbell film.
• 1:32:13
  Driving a Delta 88 through a cemetery knocking over tombstones.
• 1:32:17
  So what?
• 1:32:18
  Florida man drove through cemetery, damaged headstones.
• 1:32:22
  Crashed into house.
• 1:32:23
  Oh, that's the best part.
• 1:32:24
  Was it the undertaker's house?
• 1:32:28
  ? I don't know.
• 1:32:29
  But he cleared the cemetery, crossed the street, went through a fence,
• 1:32:33
  and then into somebody's house you hear the owner of the house
• 1:32:36
  thought the neighbors were quiet.
• 1:32:38
  I wanna know what he was driving.
• 1:32:39
  He mowed down some cement blocks.
• 1:32:42
  It was a 78 Pontiac Phoenix, lit back, went through a fence, and wasn't
• 1:32:48
  stopped till he went into a house.
• 1:32:51
  It was a Kia Telluride, AX4 Pro.
• 1:32:53
  You know what it was?
• 1:32:54
  That person's driveway was on his GPS and they say it was
• 1:32:58
  a road through the cemetery.
• 1:33:01
  Meanwhile, the NecroComicon was on his back seat, but we'll
• 1:33:04
  leave that for another episode.
• 1:33:06
  Meanwhile, he stole that car so it wasn't even his.
• 1:33:09
  So we're going to stay in Florida.
• 1:33:10
  I couldn't decide who was better, Florida man or the Washington woman.
• 1:33:15
  Oh boy.
• 1:33:16
  But since we're in Florida, let's stay in Florida.
• 1:33:18
  This reminds me of our early drive thru episodes and the lady that
• 1:33:23
  set her boyfriend's Jeep on fire.
• 1:33:24
  With the Wiccans.
• 1:33:25
  Yeah, I'm having, I'm having flashbacks.
• 1:33:29
  So Florida man doing donuts at intersection allegedly hits patrol
• 1:33:34
  car before crashing his own car.
• 1:33:37
  Two questions, cars and coffee.
• 1:33:39
  Tesla must Mustang.
• 1:33:41
  No, this appears at least by the photo to have been late at night.
• 1:33:46
  He was found driving recklessly ahead of this drove over a
• 1:33:50
  raised median went into a slide.
• 1:33:53
  I don't know at some point then I guess said, Let's do
• 1:33:56
  donuts in his Chrysler Sebring.
• 1:34:00
  It actually says he, he got stopped and then he reversed
• 1:34:03
  backed into the police car.
• 1:34:05
  So he knew it was there while he yells out the window.
• 1:34:08
  I drive a Dodge Stratus.
• 1:34:11
  I don't know.
• 1:34:11
  I'm thinking he was driving this pickup truck.
• 1:34:14
  It's a Dodge Ram.
• 1:34:15
  He rammed it.
• 1:34:16
  Yeah.
• 1:34:17
  So he hits a patrol car before crashing his own.
• 1:34:21
  It's a little confusing the order of operations.
• 1:34:24
  Wouldn't hitting the patrol car constitute a crash?
• 1:34:27
  It was rubbing.
• 1:34:28
  Because he was driven was racing.
• 1:34:29
  I didn't even think they said he was under the influence of anything.
• 1:34:32
  So go figure.
• 1:34:33
  He was under the influence of Florida.
• 1:34:35
  He was hooning.
• 1:34:37
  It's called So I don't know what to do with this last one.
• 1:34:41
  I think it takes the cake.
• 1:34:42
  It's not I don't know if it's as good as is casting a spell on your boyfriend's
• 1:34:46
  car and lighting it on fire with candles, but passenger suspected DUI driver calls
• 1:34:53
  911 On the Washington State Patrol.
• 1:34:58
  Wait, what?
• 1:34:59
  The driver argued her constitutional rights were being violated by the pursuit.
• 1:35:04
  So a drunk driver is driving a car, and they're being pursued by the
• 1:35:08
  state patrol, and they call the police, on the police, that their
• 1:35:14
  constitutional rights were being violated.
• 1:35:17
  That's a bold strategy.
• 1:35:18
  Like they're, they're calling to say they're being harassed by the police.
• 1:35:25
  You're driving illegally.
• 1:35:26
  How do you know that?
• 1:35:27
  You don't know that I'm drunk.
• 1:35:29
  I may be driving on the wrong side of the road sideways with a kid hanging out the
• 1:35:33
  back, but you don't know that I'm drunk.
• 1:35:36
  It's like that tater salad joke, right?
• 1:35:38
  I wasn't drunk.
• 1:35:40
  In public until you put me there.
• 1:35:46
  I want to hear the 911 recording of that.
• 1:35:49
  Like, it's gotta be absolutely insane.
• 1:35:52
  It's got to be because the person was in an F 150 doing like
• 1:35:55
  over a hundred miles an hour.
• 1:35:57
  They can go that fast?
• 1:35:58
  Apparently.
• 1:35:58
  We've been in and out and stuff.
• 1:36:00
  And this is like at midnight 30.
• 1:36:03
  And then the other passengers.
• 1:36:05
  Call the cops on the cops because they thought the law had changed
• 1:36:09
  that the cops can't pursue you anymore in high speed 911.
• 1:36:14
  What's your emergency?
• 1:36:15
  Yes, I'm being followed
• 1:36:18
  my drivers.
• 1:36:19
  Uh, under the influence.
• 1:36:21
  He's had a couple of 10 beers and the cops are after us.
• 1:36:25
  But it's just like the sound rules, you can't make noise after
• 1:36:28
  10 o'clock and the cops can't chase you after 80 miles an hour.
• 1:36:31
  Like, what the hell is that?
• 1:36:32
  Well, there has been some of that, right?
• 1:36:34
  Yeah, the police aren't allowed in some cases, they're not allowed to
• 1:36:37
  enter into a They should really back off because all it does is endanger
• 1:36:40
  the officers and other people if they go on these crazy high speed pursuits.
• 1:36:44
  But there's caveats to this.
• 1:36:46
  It's like when we know you're driving drunk, we follow you.
• 1:36:51
  It's like Need for Speed Hot Pursuit.
• 1:36:53
  You don't get a free pass.
• 1:36:54
  We deploy the spike strips on you.
• 1:36:56
  You know what I learned from this article?
• 1:36:58
  When you said the truck did a hundred miles an hour, it proves a very
• 1:37:03
  important point that sometimes.
• 1:37:05
  You need to haul lumber and haul ass truck life, gas or grass.
• 1:37:11
  Don't be that person either.
• 1:37:12
  Public safety announcement.
• 1:37:14
  Well, folks, it's time we go behind the pit wall for some motor sports news.
• 1:37:19
  This next one is actually really interesting because we saw this
• 1:37:22
  car in person while we were at Rolex and that's the Hendrick built
• 1:37:27
  and sponsored garage 56 LeMans.
• 1:37:32
  This car is going to do NASCAR and the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
• 1:37:36
  I think this is super cool.
• 1:37:38
  And entering a Camaro in the GT class?
• 1:37:41
  Interesting to see how it all plays out in June.
• 1:37:44
  I think it's cool.
• 1:37:45
  I can't wait to see it race at Le Mans.
• 1:37:47
  And last month, we also spoke about Travis Pastrana returning to NASCAR.
• 1:37:51
  And I'm sure a lot of people were probably thinking who, what, where,
• 1:37:54
  I mean, you know, he's took over doing tricks and whatnot for Subaru
• 1:37:58
  and, you know, Global Rallycross and all that kind of stuff a while ago.
• 1:38:01
  But.
• 1:38:02
  We have some results information for you.
• 1:38:05
  And I'm happy to report that Travis did a lot better than
• 1:38:09
  probably any of us expected.
• 1:38:12
  He ended up 14th in this month's Daytona 500.
• 1:38:16
  I guess he did better than Kimmy, right?
• 1:38:18
  Who didn't finish.
• 1:38:19
  He never made it to the 500.
• 1:38:21
  That's true.
• 1:38:22
  I meant just at a NASCAR race in general.
• 1:38:24
  Yeah, not so good.
• 1:38:25
  Kimmy, try again.
• 1:38:26
  Let's talk about open wheel racing.
• 1:38:28
  So where are we at in Formula One?
• 1:38:31
  We are just a few short days away from the season opener in Bahrain on March 5th.
• 1:38:40
  Pre season testing is about to start.
• 1:38:42
  Formula One's kicking off, but like every year we have to have the big reveal,
• 1:38:47
  the cars, oh my god, so many memes.
• 1:38:51
  I have to agree with Eric.
• 1:38:52
  This year is a little different, but in years past, yes, the reveals.
• 1:38:57
  of the new liveries.
• 1:38:58
  I would get so excited just to see the McLaren that looked exactly like
• 1:39:02
  the McLaren from other McLarens.
• 1:39:04
  But stickers, brah.
• 1:39:06
  Stickers.
• 1:39:07
  This year's reveals were actually quite a bit dramatic.
• 1:39:11
  The Mercedes car went back to black.
• 1:39:13
  You know, cue the Amy Winehouse song, you know, that everybody's playing
• 1:39:17
  everywhere and on their memes.
• 1:39:18
  The Mercedes looks amazing though.
• 1:39:20
  I really like it.
• 1:39:21
  I'm team save.
• 1:39:21
  You know why they did that?
• 1:39:22
  Because that was the last time you won.
• 1:39:24
  No, because apparently it saved them grams of weight.
• 1:39:27
  Yeah, I heard that too.
• 1:39:30
  So they did it as a weight savings to just like flat black or whatever.
• 1:39:34
  Raw carbon fiber or whatever.
• 1:39:35
  Yeah.
• 1:39:36
  That's fine.
• 1:39:37
  So that's some Mercedes trickery there.
• 1:39:39
  So they'll get penalized for that.
• 1:39:40
  I don't think there's a rule that says you have to paint your car.
• 1:39:43
  But like, I watched the Ferrari reveal and I watched these
• 1:39:46
  two guys doing their podcasts.
• 1:39:48
  So that told you nothing.
• 1:39:49
  That was like fanboys salivating over the Ferrari, which honestly,
• 1:39:54
  I think I liked last year's better.
• 1:39:56
  I think the red was nicer.
• 1:39:58
  I liked that it was all red.
• 1:39:59
  I don't know.
• 1:40:00
  A fan of how they like splotched black chunks, not even accents.
• 1:40:04
  It looks more like the Alan Prost, Nigel Mansell era of Ferraris.
• 1:40:09
  They were darker red.
• 1:40:10
  Oh, they put Ferrari on the spoiler and the spoiler is black.
• 1:40:13
  And I'm like, yeah, all that stuff existed like 40 years ago.
• 1:40:16
  Okay, big deal.
• 1:40:17
  To me, I couldn't tell the difference between the previous car and this car.
• 1:40:21
  And if you look at the two cars side by side, there's a lot of differences.
• 1:40:25
  Actually, the front nose.
• 1:40:27
  End cap is shaped differently.
• 1:40:29
  The wing on the front nose actually extends further from the nose itself.
• 1:40:34
  The side pods are very different how they're channeling the air, how they're
• 1:40:38
  venting the air, all that stuff.
• 1:40:40
  I think the wing looks slightly different.
• 1:40:42
  The louvers all on the sides are flowing the air differently.
• 1:40:46
  So they made a lot of engineering changes.
• 1:40:49
  So hopefully.
• 1:40:50
  Make a better performing handling car.
• 1:40:52
  Yeah, they appear very subtle.
• 1:40:54
  Uh, I guess if you just saw it by itself, you go, okay, it's a
• 1:40:58
  different paint job on the same car.
• 1:41:00
  But if you look at them side by side in the same front view, side view,
• 1:41:05
  top view, quite a bit different.
• 1:41:06
  There's a lot of changes.
• 1:41:08
  Yeah, it looks like the wing is smaller too.
• 1:41:10
  It's narrower like they were on the old cars.
• 1:41:12
  In the old days, they had those skinny boxy wings.
• 1:41:15
  It's so what's old is new again in some respects.
• 1:41:18
  I mean, whatever.
• 1:41:19
  And next year it'll be something else.
• 1:41:20
  The different, you know, shade of red or whatever.
• 1:41:23
  Yeah, that's what happens.
• 1:41:24
  But there's some other news.
• 1:41:26
  Lance Stroll is out.
• 1:41:27
  Well, he's out of preseason testing, apparently had a bicycling accident.
• 1:41:30
  He's a reserve driver is now at the helm, Felipe Drogovic.
• 1:41:35
  Do we have high expectations for him?
• 1:41:37
  I have no idea, honestly.
• 1:41:39
  But he's about to have a job interview, so he better do well.
• 1:41:42
  Yeah, right.
• 1:41:44
  So there's been a lot of other rumors flying around the F1 paddock
• 1:41:49
  in the last month, and that has to do with A four letter word.
• 1:41:54
  It's not a rumor, it's been announced.
• 1:41:56
  I know, but there's other rumors that go along with the announcement, because
• 1:41:59
  there were rumors before, then they were announced, and there's rumors again.
• 1:42:02
  And we're talking about Ford, F O R D, Ford.
• 1:42:07
  Returning to formula one.
• 1:42:09
  And the first question I have is they just lost 2 billion in passenger sales.
• 1:42:14
  How the hell are they going to afford to run in formula one?
• 1:42:17
  This is where it went.
• 1:42:18
  Ah, Oh, got it.
• 1:42:20
  Okay.
• 1:42:22
  So I'm seeing things like partnerships with Red Bull.
• 1:42:25
  Ford is supplying the power plants like they used to do back in the,
• 1:42:28
  you know, the sixties and seventies for like Lotus and stuff like that.
• 1:42:31
  So it's not the first time Ford has been in this level of racing in the past.
• 1:42:37
  Good to see them come back with everything else that's going on.
• 1:42:40
  I'm just a little curious.
• 1:42:42
  Maybe we'll have another rich energy fiasco.
• 1:42:46
  And then it'll give Elizabeth Blackstock and Alanis King
• 1:42:50
  opportunity to write another book.
• 1:42:52
  The Ford saga.
• 1:42:54
  Yes.
• 1:42:55
  Fixer repair daily.
• 1:42:56
  Speaking of sagas, Hollywood is dipping their toe.
• 1:43:00
  In the pool talked about this before because I believe it is
• 1:43:02
  still untitled is Brad Pitt's new venture of this formula one movie.
• 1:43:09
  Nobody knows exactly what this is going to be.
• 1:43:11
  Then he's working with Lewis Hamilton in terms of directing, producing.
• 1:43:16
  Apparently he's been listening to the auditions of whoever is
• 1:43:19
  going to be Brad Pitt's co star.
• 1:43:21
  Shooting is supposed to start later this year for whatever this Formula
• 1:43:25
  one drama movie is it's called drive to survive and it'll be out on netflix.
• 1:43:31
  Apparently they are going to be taking footage live at race weekend.
• 1:43:35
  So maybe it's the traumatization.
• 1:43:39
  It's just driven.
• 1:43:40
  It's just the movie driven again.
• 1:43:42
  Probably seems silly to take live footage at a race when live footage
• 1:43:48
  is already being recorded for.
• 1:43:49
  For you, it depends what footage they're trying to take, but also
• 1:43:53
  if you're bringing your actors in to like stand in the garage while
• 1:43:57
  nothing's going on kind of thing.
• 1:43:58
  Right?
• 1:43:59
  It wouldn't be the same footage.
• 1:44:00
  They also need to get footage of the cars shifting gears 15 times.
• 1:44:06
  Yes, with a stick shift in this case, like all American drama
• 1:44:11
  movies, you have an obligatory toilet scene and that is not usually
• 1:44:14
  recorded during the live broadcast.
• 1:44:16
  So they'll have that too, right?
• 1:44:17
  Yes.
• 1:44:18
  You brought up drive to survive.
• 1:44:20
  And I swear to God, Netflix is taunting me every time I log on.
• 1:44:24
  It's the first thing I see.
• 1:44:26
  Is a reminder for drive to survive, which kicks off February 24th.
• 1:44:31
  I'm going to coordinate with your wife and you're just going to walk
• 1:44:34
  into the room one day and it's going to be on and you can't do it.
• 1:44:36
  We're going to a clockwork orange.
• 1:44:38
  Yeah, no, not going to do it.
• 1:44:40
  Not going to happen.
• 1:44:41
  Meanwhile, in open wheel news, our last little bit here, Tony Kanan.
• 1:44:46
  Is finally retiring from IndyCar.
• 1:44:48
  That's great.
• 1:44:48
  Doesn't mean he gives up his seat in any of the other racing series he's
• 1:44:52
  in, like IMSA or WEC or anywhere else.
• 1:44:56
  He's got a seat.
• 1:44:57
  Yeah.
• 1:44:58
  It's like, okay, we'll be due.
• 1:45:01
  We're, it's not like we're never going to see you again.
• 1:45:03
  He's retiring from IndyCar so he can do more of the e sports that he's been doing.
• 1:45:09
  I racing champion, Tony Kanaan.
• 1:45:10
  It pays better, I guess, right?
• 1:45:13
  It's that monster energy sponsorship there.
• 1:45:16
  But speaking of energy drink sponsorships, let's switch over to
• 1:45:19
  Red Bull TV and talk about WRC news.
• 1:45:23
  Now, if you want to skip all this, go right ahead.
• 1:45:26
  But here's the brief, just like Rolex is the kickoff to the season
• 1:45:30
  and the Daytona 500 and all that rally Monte Carlo kicks off the 13
• 1:45:36
  event schedule in the WRC series.
• 1:45:39
  And they've added two new races this year for anybody that's really interested
• 1:45:43
  rally Chile, and they returned to Mexico as well, but they've also added rally
• 1:45:48
  EU, which will be held in Germany.
• 1:45:51
  I enjoy watching the recaps on Red Bull because it's an easy way to
• 1:45:54
  digest the race, because otherwise, if you try to watch it in real
• 1:45:58
  time, it would be absolutely mental.
• 1:46:00
  It takes four days and you know, usually it's like 18 to 20 stages.
• 1:46:04
  Rally Monte Carlo was won by Sebastian Ogier.
• 1:46:08
  This makes him the most winningest rally driver in Monte Carlo rally history.
• 1:46:14
  He was so excited.
• 1:46:16
  He didn't even show up for rally Sweden, which was the next event two weeks later.
• 1:46:21
  But overall the whole.
• 1:46:24
  Race was pretty interesting.
• 1:46:26
  There's a lot of back and forth between some of the old timers.
• 1:46:28
  So I think might be on the edge of actually needing to get out of WRC and
• 1:46:32
  making way for folks like Elvin Evans and Oi Tanik, the end result of Rally
• 1:46:37
  Monte Carlo was that Toyota took a one, two right out of the gate, which
• 1:46:41
  was pretty awesome for the madman of Latvala, who is now a team owner.
• 1:46:47
  You know, principal, as they call them in formula one for gazoo racing Toyota.
• 1:46:51
  So that's pretty awesome.
• 1:46:52
  Not a lot of snow this year in Monte Carlo, because as we've seen,
• 1:46:55
  even here in the United States, it's been a pretty mild winter.
• 1:46:59
  So Europe, the same thing, a lot of tarmac that they were running on.
• 1:47:02
  So that made running Monte Carlo very different than usual.
• 1:47:05
  And the other thing that was pretty cool is we saw the debut
• 1:47:08
  of the new Ford Puma put out there by teams like M sport and so on.
• 1:47:13
  They're having issues with the car.
• 1:47:14
  The drivers are trying to learn it.
• 1:47:15
  It's a different chassis, obviously than the Fiesta that it replaces.
• 1:47:19
  And Hyundai was also having problems with their new hybrid system.
• 1:47:23
  All the rally cars this year are actually hybrids.
• 1:47:26
  And turbocharged makes for an interesting power delivery system in the race cars.
• 1:47:31
  If anybody watches Monte Carlo, I think Elvin Evans is hilarious to watch.
• 1:47:35
  He is so hyper focused on everything he does.
• 1:47:39
  He leans forward, like he's playing a video game when he's driving
• 1:47:42
  and he has this look of complete.
• 1:47:44
  Terror and bewilderment all at the same time.
• 1:47:47
  It's super comical when you watch the in car view.
• 1:47:50
  And unfortunately, the support races like WRC2 and WRC3, they
• 1:47:55
  don't get as much airtime as the WRC1, the big guys, the pros do.
• 1:48:00
  But in WRC2 right now, Skoda, AKA Volkswagen is kicking
• 1:48:05
  ass with their new car.
• 1:48:08
  And there are some American drivers in WRC too.
• 1:48:12
  So I'll be keeping an eye out for them and checking out their progress.
• 1:48:15
  Cause it's been a long time since we've had Americans running in WRC.
• 1:48:19
  So that's pretty cool to see.
• 1:48:20
  Now I know Brad, you took some time to engage in WRC in the last couple of weeks,
• 1:48:25
  so you caught up on Sweden, didn't you?
• 1:48:28
  I did.
• 1:48:28
  I don't know exactly what I watched.
• 1:48:30
  Um, it was a recap of some sort.
• 1:48:33
  I have to agree that if you're a Rally fan and you want to know what happened, yes,
• 1:48:39
  the recaps are fantastic because they do condense Four days worth of racing and
• 1:48:44
  drama into a short, like one hour episode of drive to survive what I don't like is
• 1:48:51
  I, I, sometimes I just want to log in.
• 1:48:53
  I don't care that I'm not going to see the whole thing.
• 1:48:56
  I just want to see a rally stage from start to finish.
• 1:48:59
  Like, I just want to see the driver.
• 1:49:00
  Like, I just want to see the racing.
• 1:49:02
  I don't know.
• 1:49:03
  I feel like you miss a lot.
• 1:49:04
  Well, it's sort of like watching an autocross though.
• 1:49:07
  Do you really want to watch every driver make a run?
• 1:49:10
  Because they are offset.
• 1:49:11
  They are by themselves, you know, all that kind of stuff.
• 1:49:15
  Yes.
• 1:49:15
  It's something about just watching because how long are the stages?
• 1:49:19
  They're super long.
• 1:49:20
  Like it takes all day.
• 1:49:21
  They run from sunup to sundown.
• 1:49:23
  I mean, for, I mean, for one driver, one run, how long is it?
• 1:49:26
  I didn't pay attention to the times.
• 1:49:28
  I got on the simulator after Sweden and ran some of the segments on my setup.
• 1:49:33
  And some of the stages are six minutes full bore because they're short.
• 1:49:38
  Some of the other ones, like a 21 kilometer section, which is like a
• 1:49:42
  longer power stage, you're on track for.
• 1:49:46
  Easily 10 to 15 minutes.
• 1:49:48
  If, depending if you have any mess ups or things like that.
• 1:49:50
  So you're out there for quite a while.
• 1:49:52
  I would totally watch a couple people making a complete run of
• 1:49:56
  the stage or whatever, I don't need to see the whole stage.
• 1:49:59
  I don't need to see four days of rally.
• 1:50:02
  Yes.
• 1:50:02
  The recap would help me there, but just to see some action.
• 1:50:06
  I feel like the recaps don't show enough action.
• 1:50:09
  We're on different ends of the pendulum swing.
• 1:50:11
  I'm so used to watching it that I just want that bite size.
• 1:50:14
  Give me what I need so I can keep track of what's going on versus watching Esa
• 1:50:20
  Pekka Lappie do his full power stage run.
• 1:50:22
  Like, I don't need 12 minutes of him driving.
• 1:50:24
  Just show me what he did and we'll kind of move on with life, right?
• 1:50:27
  Well, yeah, because I'm a new to rally.
• 1:50:30
  Yeah, you're learning.
• 1:50:31
  We've been talking about this for three seasons.
• 1:50:34
  Now I'm trying to give it an actual legit chance.
• 1:50:39
  I would do the same thing for NASCAR, but I'm choosing to
• 1:50:42
  do it with rally right now.
• 1:50:44
  I want to give it a chance, but it's just, I don't see enough in
• 1:50:47
  the recaps to actually make me care.
• 1:50:50
  So what I think would benefit you and maybe any of our listeners that
• 1:50:53
  are interested in exploring the world of rally is to check out another
• 1:50:57
  program they have on Red Bull TV.
• 1:50:59
  It's about an hour long and they call it the ABCs of rally and
• 1:51:02
  actually walks you through the different sub disciplines of rallies.
• 1:51:07
  There's WRC that, you know, we're talking about now, which
• 1:51:09
  is like sports car racing, right?
• 1:51:12
  Versus T1 Raid, which is like all the big trucks.
• 1:51:14
  And then there's Dakar and there's all these different.
• 1:51:17
  Types of rally from the buggies up through the cars and whatnot.
• 1:51:20
  So it's cool to like, start with that and get your one on one down.
• 1:51:24
  And then once you've watched enough of how it works and you can always
• 1:51:28
  go back into the vault and watch the runs, but they're a little bit more
• 1:51:32
  raw again, having watched this for years, I like the condensed version.
• 1:51:36
  When you get to that stage, you're like, man, I watched all of Sunday.
• 1:51:40
  In 37 minutes, I'm good because I didn't need to watch 18 hours of content to
• 1:51:45
  kind of figure out what was going on.
• 1:51:47
  Right.
• 1:51:47
  I do like that Red Bull this season has deliberately included content from the
• 1:51:53
  special stages, which are the two on two.
• 1:51:56
  Overlapping kind of road courses that they develop.
• 1:51:59
  You saw a lot of that in Sweden.
• 1:52:00
  It was totally iced over.
• 1:52:01
  It was really, really cool to see the cars go head to head.
• 1:52:04
  And if you kind of want a mind bender is try to follow the track and how it,
• 1:52:08
  you know, runs over itself and how the cars don't end up hitting each other.
• 1:52:11
  They're really running.
• 1:52:13
  The same lap, it's a two part lap.
• 1:52:15
  It's not like a, a pro solo where it's mirror image courses.
• 1:52:18
  They're on the same track at different points and they're
• 1:52:21
  chasing each other, basically.
• 1:52:22
  So it's pretty cool.
• 1:52:23
  And I'm glad they're showing more of that because that used to be like bonus
• 1:52:26
  content that you had to go find versus now they're including that in the recap.
• 1:52:31
  So that was pretty cool.
• 1:52:32
  But so you watch Sweden.
• 1:52:33
  What'd you think?
• 1:52:34
  I thought it was comical what was going on with Craig Breen and Derry Neuville.
• 1:52:40
  Yeah.
• 1:52:40
  I thought that the last stage, what was it, stage 18?
• 1:52:43
  Yeah.
• 1:52:44
  Where, where they, uh, Neuville, he was fighting for points,
• 1:52:48
  you know, in the standings.
• 1:52:49
  Because he's what, he's like second or third, isn't he?
• 1:52:51
  Right.
• 1:52:51
  But it's only the second round of racing anyway, I know, but, but still, like,
• 1:52:55
  they made like all kinds of like strategic changes and then he still crashed out.
• 1:53:00
  Like he finished the stage, but he still backed into the snow
• 1:53:03
  drift and slowed him down and up.
• 1:53:05
  And then his teammate beat him anyway.
• 1:53:07
  Well, here's the best part about all of that situation, which I love the
• 1:53:11
  fact that they actually brought this to light and they didn't cover it up.
• 1:53:15
  Formula one is not the only one with a bunch of politics kind of
• 1:53:18
  dictating the outcome of the race.
• 1:53:20
  It was all team orders, but the other thing is Tiri Nouvelle, the whole time
• 1:53:25
  was just complaining about how much his I 20 was understeering, understeering.
• 1:53:30
  It won't turn.
• 1:53:31
  It won't do this, blah, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff.
• 1:53:33
  And he was just pitching a fit.
• 1:53:35
  Then I don't know if you paid close attention, but they
• 1:53:37
  forced them to switch cars.
• 1:53:39
  That was the bigger thing that Craig Breen got screwed.
• 1:53:43
  Yeah, so he did the same thing that Mazespin was trying to do to Schumacher.
• 1:53:49
  It was like, ah, you got the better car, let's switch cars,
• 1:53:51
  I'll beat you in your car.
• 1:53:52
  Exactly, and then to your point, he still screwed it up.
• 1:53:55
  So was it the car or was it the driver?
• 1:53:57
  Because Craig Breen was flying.
• 1:54:00
  And he got his first stage win like ever.
• 1:54:02
  I mean, he's not a newbie either.
• 1:54:04
  He's been around for a couple of years.
• 1:54:05
  I've been keeping eyes on him.
• 1:54:07
  All the new guys, Oytanik, Esa Pekka Lappi, Elvin Evans, Craig Breen, all those
• 1:54:12
  guys, I mean, they're the up and comers in WRC right now, obviously they're running
• 1:54:15
  at the higher ranks, Terry Neuville.
• 1:54:17
  Multi time champion, whatever, not as many as Seb and some of those guys, but
• 1:54:22
  he's sort of the old dog in this fight.
• 1:54:24
  And so when they did the car switch and the team where I was
• 1:54:27
  just like, this is ridiculous.
• 1:54:29
  And then when he couldn't pull it off, I mean, even, even in the last
• 1:54:33
  interview, Craig Green had just finished his run and the, and the reporter was
• 1:54:36
  there telling him what happened and he just kind of smirked and it was great.
• 1:54:41
  I was loving it.
• 1:54:42
  It was so good.
• 1:54:43
  So, so that was fun.
• 1:54:44
  I could, you're getting me.
• 1:54:46
  Interested, and I'm seeing on here on our notes a quote from Tanya, and
• 1:54:51
  it actually makes a ton of sense.
• 1:54:54
  So watching WRC is like watching the Olympics.
• 1:54:57
  I think that is 1000 percent true.
• 1:54:59
  You know, you need the recaps because there's just so much.
• 1:55:03
  Content to digest.
• 1:55:05
  You need the recap, but still sometimes when I watch the Olympics,
• 1:55:08
  I just want to log in and see, you want to watch the figure skating.
• 1:55:13
  Yeah.
• 1:55:13
  I know how, I guess I want to see the speed skating.
• 1:55:16
  There were two other things that came out of Sweden that I thought were pretty cool,
• 1:55:19
  and I hope you picked up on this, that rally is really volatile, like one minute.
• 1:55:25
  A guy's eight seconds ahead going into a stage and suddenly he's 20 seconds behind.
• 1:55:30
  And the guy that was like in sixth place is suddenly first.
• 1:55:33
  It's really, really crazy.
• 1:55:35
  And that's why you got to hang on and sort of keep track until the end.
• 1:55:39
  And those last couple stages are important.
• 1:55:42
  Now the special stage versus the power stage, those are points
• 1:55:45
  games versus the overall time.
• 1:55:48
  So it gets a little complicated.
• 1:55:49
  Kind of like IMSA and stuff.
• 1:55:51
  There's multiple races going on, right?
• 1:55:52
  Are you racing for points?
• 1:55:54
  Is it for manufacturer?
• 1:55:55
  Is it for personal time?
• 1:55:56
  You know, all that kind of stuff.
• 1:55:57
  So it becomes interesting.
• 1:55:58
  But the other big thing about Sweden was Takamoto's rollover.
• 1:56:03
  That was bonkers.
• 1:56:06
  And he's in the Yaris, he catches the back end and the thing goes ass over
• 1:56:09
  teakettle like four times or whatever.
• 1:56:11
  And then they're in the car and the snow comes in through the window.
• 1:56:15
  The, this, the navigator just gets nailed.
• 1:56:17
  Right.
• 1:56:18
  And then I love when he puts it in gear and he tries to take off
• 1:56:22
  and keep going, but he can't see.
• 1:56:24
  And the freaking car's turtle, I was like, it couldn't get more comical than that.
• 1:56:29
  That's rally right there.
• 1:56:30
  You just never know what's going to happen.
• 1:56:32
  The stage is constantly changing, especially in, uh, on a snow
• 1:56:36
  stage or something like that.
• 1:56:38
  I mean, every car that goes through there is on a completely different
• 1:56:41
  track than the car coming behind them.
• 1:56:43
  That bit Craig Breen and like stage 16 or whatever, because they
• 1:56:46
  did the reverse grid because he ended up winning the previous one.
• 1:56:50
  And then he was like at the back and he goes, I'm dealing with ruts
• 1:56:53
  that, you know, are up to the door.
• 1:56:54
  And it's like, the car wouldn't do anything for him.
• 1:56:56
  I mean, he did the best he could, but that one was a stage they had already run.
• 1:57:01
  He's like, I got this and he had killed it.
• 1:57:03
  They ran it again.
• 1:57:03
  And it was just like, he couldn't do anything with it.
• 1:57:06
  So you start taking those times and you averaging them out and
• 1:57:09
  it gets really complicated from a scoring perspective, but it's what
• 1:57:12
  makes it exciting because it's not.
• 1:57:14
  Well, he was a 10th of a second off of his last lap, right?
• 1:57:17
  It's super variable.
• 1:57:18
  No, no, everything changes then.
• 1:57:20
  That's why they need 18 stages.
• 1:57:22
  Yeah.
• 1:57:23
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:57:24
  I can totally see why you like rally because of all the scoring.
• 1:57:27
  It's super complex.
• 1:57:28
  You totally nerd out on that shit.
• 1:57:30
  I'm sure.
• 1:57:31
  You know what else I nerd out on and talking about things that are
• 1:57:33
  constantly changing alpha Romeo.
• 1:57:36
  Part of Stellantis.
• 1:57:37
  If we haven't forgotten.
• 1:57:40
  It looks so good.
• 1:57:41
  Well, they're getting out of formula one, as we talked about throughout
• 1:57:44
  season three, how Audi is going to take over the Sauber team, which
• 1:57:48
  Alfa Romeo currently heads up.
• 1:57:49
  Now, the interview given with the race director at Alfa Romeo is saying that
• 1:57:54
  they're going to take a gamble and head into endurance sports car racing.
• 1:57:59
  So you may see an Alfa Romeo at Le Mans.
• 1:58:03
  In 2024 and beyond.
• 1:58:04
  I will totally root for this car.
• 1:58:06
  It's pretty sick looking.
• 1:58:07
  Yeah.
• 1:58:08
  Alpha grill is just something about it.
• 1:58:10
  Right?
• 1:58:11
  Yeah.
• 1:58:11
  Yeah.
• 1:58:12
  Maybe it's the Ferrari that's supposed to be out at Le Mans this
• 1:58:15
  year, rebadged and good for them.
• 1:58:16
  They get to keep the investment going in the car that they built because Alpha and
• 1:58:20
  Ferrari do share a lot, but I'm excited to see Alfa Romeo coming to the big stage.
• 1:58:25
  That'd be really, really cool.
• 1:58:26
  It's been a long time since there was an Alpha at Le Mans.
• 1:58:29
  Well, in other racing news from the virtual world.
• 1:58:32
  There's still no definitive release date for the latest installment of
• 1:58:37
  Forza Motorsport, which, I wish they would just call it Forza Motorsport
• 1:58:41
  8, because whenever you search Forza Motorsport release date, you
• 1:58:45
  get the original Forza Motorsport.
• 1:58:47
  So you still have to, like, Google search Forza Motorsport 8 to find anything
• 1:58:51
  related to this latest installment.
• 1:58:53
  It alleges sometime this year before or after the cyber truck, it's a race.
• 1:58:58
  Which one?
• 1:58:59
  Well, that's a, that's a good one.
• 1:59:00
  What comes out first?
• 1:59:01
  Cyber truck or Forza Motorsport, whatever.
• 1:59:04
  It's becoming like Gran Turismo where it's like, they promise a
• 1:59:07
  new one every year, and then it takes 10 years for it to release.
• 1:59:10
  Meanwhile, somebody else has come along and, you know, usurped all the
• 1:59:14
  popularity of, That particular genre of game or whatever, you know, they
• 1:59:18
  definitely have not been advertising Forza Motorsport eight until like the
• 1:59:23
  last two years, like Forza Motorsport seven didn't come out and they weren't
• 1:59:27
  like the next year, like eight's coming.
• 1:59:29
  There was silence.
• 1:59:30
  We're still seeing effects of the pandemic.
• 1:59:33
  Well, the effect too, is that it's going to cost a hundred dollars
• 1:59:35
  when it comes out and you're going to have to buy a new system to run
• 1:59:38
  it, because it's only going to be available in the series X or in your PC.
• 1:59:41
  I have one.
• 1:59:42
  Oh, lucky you.
• 1:59:43
  It's a hundred dollars anyway, because if you want to get the VIP
• 1:59:46
  pass or whatever, to get all the cars that come out in DLC months later.
• 1:59:52
  You need to pay for the ultimate version, which is a hundred bucks anyway.
• 1:59:56
  So that's nothing new.
• 1:59:58
  As we close out the show, we need to wrap up with all our local news and all that.
• 2:00:02
  So Brad, what's on the docket?
• 2:00:04
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  Summit point has brought back their off roading links on motorsportreg.
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  com right now, where you can sign up for these off road events
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  and off road courses, you know, run what you brung type of deal.
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  This is not to be confused with SCC rally cross or anything like that,
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  which was brought back to summit point a couple of years ago now,
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  pretty cool that they're doing that.
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  So now we have somewhere close to go off roading.
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  Obviously there's other facilities out there like Roush Creek, et cetera, where
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  But summit point.
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  Joins them as a new facility to be able to go off roading with your Jeep or whatever.
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  The SCCA WDCR region is hosting its first combined time trial and HPD event
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  of the year, and that is set at summit point as well on March 4th, the 5th.
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  The Audi club Potomac Chesapeake region has their first event of the season.
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  Also at summit point.
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  Hmm.
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  I wonder that we got a theme here on March 11th and 12th.
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  Meanwhile, Charlie striker, a spoiler alert for season four.
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  He's a guest on the show several times.
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